@@aidenstevenson2980 yeah, that was always a point of contention among those that wanted the V6, it was never advertised, never used in media fleets, and some dealers were talking customers out of buying them, even though they were better suited to short commutes, which would have saved a lot of DPF complaints.
👍5 of us have them and a few get abused. They are very reliable. Especially considering it’s a modern car which has to have more electrical and pollution gear
The idle up button is for warming up the engine on a cold start in cold climates once the engine reaches operating temps it drops back to normal RPM or at least that’s how it works on my 120 series Prado
💪Hilux. A farmer we know in central NSW only services his n80 hiluxes every 100,000km crazy! And they keep running. He recons that way it’s easier to not miss a service 😁
Probably not the case for big fleet sellers, but individuals and smaller outlets seem to see Grays as the place to dump vehicles with expensive to fix or weird problems that they don't want discovered on a test drive. Some seem to hope a silly buyer will buy it off the pictures using a lucky dip mindset.
When I was looking for a ute late year, everything I saw at Greys was totally shit. Of course they aren't the only ones selling lemons and different yards varied in the dodgyness of their offerings. The key in the end was to have a set criteria of exactly what you wanted - make, model, price, mileage, spec, etc - and stick to it with little compromise. This obviously then involved lots of patience and looking and looking and looking all across the region.
My dad has a 2016 Toyota hilux sr5 turbo diesel 2.8l 6 speed manual and it has the burn off feature all ready unless it had it from factory but mods are arb bullbar arb bash plate side steps and protection rails snorkel 2nd battery game Ariel and game uhf slid out underneath the tray and a tune and a 5th injector 2 inch lift all round but the back is a game upgrade heavy duty clutch 32 inch tires navar spot lights
Awesome guys to see you help us work out whats good and whats not when looking at second hand 4WD. Can you please do mitsubishi challenger. Also can you please include towing info, what it tows, what mods required to tow. Cos we all want to know can it tow the camper or van. Love ya work guys.
My experience with these gen, the issues are mainly around the DPF system, timing chain tensioner, faulty injectors, paint issues, and clogged fuel filter in the high pressure pump, not described in the maintenance schedule.
No ! ..my brother bought second hand 2017 with 150000km paid $40,000.00 … so far in 3 months of owning .. replaced clutch , replaced battery , locking door electronics failing .. stay tuned the day isn’t over yet .
Ultimately it was the value retention that led me to buying a Hilux (N80 SR) and also their durability and longevity, which the Ranger and DMax don't seem to have.
Value retention of the Hilux and poor durability and longevity of a Ranger? Sure, but poor durability and longevity of a Dmax? I think you need to put the glass didgeridoo down mate.
One thing that you forgot to mention is that for quite some time Toyota denied there was even a problem with their DPF's and when they did eventually have no choice but to admit it, they had to be dragged kicking and screaming to fix it. This company's arrogance, over blown delivery times, over blown pricing (compared to any of their competitors) considering the dated platform and tech as well as a lack of standard equipment are the main reasons (even though Ford are far from perfect) I bought a Next Gen Ranger instead instead of a Toyota.
i got a 2019 sr5 that came with a Dobinsons 2" lift, steel bullbar and some spotties for about 35 grand from my local black toyota. Seemed like a super good deal and it was my first own purchase of a car as my first car was an 2008 hilux i got from our family business. Some places have super good deals for these n80's
I think both hilux and Px2/3 rangers have similar take on with their matters of design and issues. Although maybe if there is a huge enough differences between worth looking into the PX2/3 Ranger video as they just as popular as them.
Even not being as reliable as older generations and already outdated, I'd go for one before a Ranger or an Amarok with a wet timing belt, here in Europe with the 2.0L engine.
@RogerM88 wet timing belts are fine when serviced as they should. Besides most here in NZ and probably Aus buy the V6 Rangers. They leave these Hiluxes for dead (coming from a Hilix driver)
I have the 2018 Sr manual 352,060 on the odo I flogged it around vic alot of adventures drove it like I stole it didn't miss a beat only mechanical issue was a cv shaft, I serviced her myself which was either when I felt like it or every 20thousand, I recently just bought a n70 2013 model decided to go back to a older model with less electronics each to there own. But the n80s are decent vehicles.
Honestly Iam at the point where simple is better over that fancy stuff like sprayed on bedliner for the floor boards with drain plugs remove plugs wash with hose put plugs back clean
For those complaining about the rangers you obviously forget that the 2.5 lt is a volvo rngine known for its problems, the 3.2 and 3.0 are reasonably reliable and my weat 3.0 pj closing in on 400k klms is only just needing some love .. maybe doing research before buying will help with future endeavours also service your damn vehicles so many issues are caused by simply neglecting the maintenance a vehicle needs to remain safe and reliable
......the engine that WILL out live diesels will be the 3RZ-FE....also these SR5's are getting snapped up in Japan due to 25yr USA import/classic car...there's one crazy youtuber buying these as Keepers.!!! also these were the last japanese built HiLux at the Hamura Hino Plant which now building the new Landcruiser for US market
More reliable and better resale than Nissan, Isuzu, Mazda & Mitz the issue is most prefer a cheaper option never had any problems with Toyota Hilux been driving them for 25 years
How about some of the used Holdens?? Yes Holden are no more, but there are heaps of them out there, in the Ute and SUV (C7 and Trailblazer) configurations
My boss has a 2021 sr and 2023 sr5 and they both are not good on fuel both around 13.5-14L/100kms. My old mans 2019 rg Colorado does about 9-10L/100kms
I brought an N70 just the other day and the fact that the back seat doesn’t fold down and it didn’t have an anchor point for my sons car seat was a bit leg down
Just wait till the injectors shit themselves and melt a piston if you think an anchor points a problem. Or the oil pump blocks up from the leaking injector seals. Keep saving your money bud, you'll need it.
I know a few friends who brought a ranger and they spent more time in the repair shop than on the road I would never buy a ranger. Toyota reliability is tried and tested
That’s a absolute lie unless your friends abuse their vehicles, my friend has a company and she uses Rangers as her company vehicles and they been fantastic for her
Hey mate! You can check out our 'build ups' playlist on our UA-cam page and there is a good mix of budget & more expensive restorations. Choose your pick!
always enjoy watching and i find these "buying car tip" videos useful. I have a question, the 2nd hand market has changed over the past couple years making it hard for someone young to find a 4by worth buying. Either you buy one that's much older with high KM's or try get a loan. I'm probably going to get a bt-50 2010ish since you can get them for 15k, i've heard they're good utes but id be wary to go on any long trips. what would you recommend in my situation? Love the show, hopefully shauno or one of the boys will read this
Make sure you research the engine in the rig on forum pages on the internet or through social media pages. Also, if the rig is well looked after then it is highly likely the car is in immaculate running condition. Always check log books, thats a bonus to finding out about how well it's looked after!
My only concern is how first owners abuse these type of cars knowing that they not gonna keep it for too long 😢😢 then as soon as i afford it, i must immediately replace suspension
never get a n80or n70 if you want a solid reliable Ute that's better than a patrol and land cruiser get a 1978-1997 hilux they are the best of the best yes there slow but are tractors fast
Hmmm, good review. But be honest, N80 hilux was never a mildly serious offroad vehicle. They're great daily, or highway vehicles, but compared to 90s and 2000s live axle vehicles they are barely capable without tens of thousands of after market parts, just to get them on par with the older vehicles.
As a previous owner of the 2023 rogue I was honestly appalled after waiting 6 months then getting the ute and it being still super outdated and no different to the rest I sold it after four months making a one thousand dollar profit. Hope the next gen is better and to be honest more affordable...
Also what you cant see is the roof stiffeners let go causing drumming over corrugations the use of inferior rubber causing shrinking of rubber floor bungs,weather strips and vents i bought one and done a full tear down and uncovered numerous manufacturing faults all video document for the record.
Yep turbo dpf alternator. Owned since new spent so much money on it. Warranty is useless ended up doing the turbo and alternator myself and dpf was done by Toyota Warranty...just...
Toyotas in simple terms in my opinion are overhyped/rated just because they are not comfortable and the driver mostly gets all the fun. Nissan Fan here
@@80serieslandcruiser had every flavor of ute brand, Isuzu, Mercedes, Mitsubishi, VW etc... I was fighting the "Toyota Gang" for many years. 3 years ago I bought a DC Hilux 1kd. Damn... that's another truck right there!!! Sold the MUX and bought a Prado right after 🙌🏻 the only brand that will outlast anything else is Toyota. Hands down
Good to see the V6 did actually get mentioned, even if it was a quick list of available engines, only to be ignored for the rest of the video.
They barely sold though, 80% are 2.8 and the others are mostly 2.7 petrols, worked at Toyota for 3 years and only ever had 1 v6 n80 come in
@@aidenstevenson2980 yeah, that was always a point of contention among those that wanted the V6, it was never advertised, never used in media fleets, and some dealers were talking customers out of buying them, even though they were better suited to short commutes, which would have saved a lot of DPF complaints.
@@tareskisloki8579 yeah would have, the one I worked in was a 2wd that was special ordered
I love them 4l v6 motors they make a bunch of power while being fuel efficient, at least conpared to the old 3.4l v6
Litrally the reason I watched this vid.
The V6 is the only reason I'm looking at these. If I wanted a crappy diesel, I'd buy a Ranger or amarok
All 2nd hand 4x4s are overpriced
Bt50s ain't too bad
Ya tried negotiating with cash in person?
Still cheaper than buying new!
Of course. Because the new ones are overpriced to start with
Don't buy one then. The market has decided they aren't overpriced.
I’ve got a 325,000 km Sr5 2018 N80, haven’t had touched a single spanner on it and shes barely been serviced lol
Change your oil and you will immediately feel how much better the car runs.
Picked up my late 2015 sr hilux (2016 engine) 172,000 $25,000. I love it. Came with a tuff 4x4 bullbar, aftermarket tray. First 4x4 ive ever owned
👍5 of us have them and a few get abused. They are very reliable.
Especially considering it’s a modern car which has to have more electrical and pollution gear
Man I wish we got Hiluxes here in the states. All our trucks are way too friggin big.
No, they are not too big.
Honestly the 1500 range of trucks arent much bigger than modern utes here
Tacoma is 2 inchs big in length and width and height. bud
@@1FiftyOverlandyes, they are too big
Yeah mate. They are awesome for towing but pretty heavy for a weekend rig
Just bought a 1999 hilux extra cab 2.7 tray top 4x4 unreal way to go
N80 462000 km’s and still going strong
The idle up button is for warming up the engine on a cold start in cold climates once the engine reaches operating temps it drops back to normal RPM or at least that’s how it works on my 120 series Prado
💪Hilux. A farmer we know in central NSW only services his n80 hiluxes every 100,000km crazy! And they keep running.
He recons that way it’s easier to not miss a service 😁
Yeah that’s a load of shit😂
This is a great idea for a series. A 4wd based review on these cars. I’m keen for when you get to used prados
Here's a prado review, they're worse than those hilux sh&% boxes. You're welcome.
@@bennettw4300 bugga off mate. ya dont know what your talking about.
Thanks jesse. You know your stuff and il take your advice anyday.
This is a great concept for a series.
Don’t buy from Grays auctions, unless you want a lemon. Read their reviews and do your research before purchasing from them.
Probably not the case for big fleet sellers, but individuals and smaller outlets seem to see Grays as the place to dump vehicles with expensive to fix or weird problems that they don't want discovered on a test drive. Some seem to hope a silly buyer will buy it off the pictures using a lucky dip mindset.
When I was looking for a ute late year, everything I saw at Greys was totally shit. Of course they aren't the only ones selling lemons and different yards varied in the dodgyness of their offerings. The key in the end was to have a set criteria of exactly what you wanted - make, model, price, mileage, spec, etc - and stick to it with little compromise. This obviously then involved lots of patience and looking and looking and looking all across the region.
Sr every time, no carpet means easy to clean.
After every drive I just brush out the rubber floor matt's, much better than vacuuming muddy carpet
Still better than a the unreliable ford ranger
They are reliable
Loving Jesse’s videos, really informative but engaging too!
My dad has a 2016 Toyota hilux sr5 turbo diesel 2.8l 6 speed manual and it has the burn off feature all ready unless it had it from factory but mods are arb bullbar arb bash plate side steps and protection rails snorkel 2nd battery game Ariel and game uhf slid out underneath the tray and a tune and a 5th injector 2 inch lift all round but the back is a game upgrade heavy duty clutch 32 inch tires navar spot lights
Awesome guys to see you help us work out whats good and whats not when looking at second hand 4WD. Can you please do mitsubishi challenger. Also can you please include towing info, what it tows, what mods required to tow. Cos we all want to know can it tow the camper or van. Love ya work guys.
My experience with these gen, the issues are mainly around the DPF system, timing chain tensioner, faulty injectors, paint issues, and clogged fuel filter in the high pressure pump, not described in the maintenance schedule.
No ! ..my brother bought second hand 2017 with 150000km paid $40,000.00 … so far in 3 months of owning .. replaced clutch , replaced battery , locking door electronics failing .. stay tuned the day isn’t over yet .
Ultimately it was the value retention that led me to buying a Hilux (N80 SR) and also their durability and longevity, which the Ranger and DMax don't seem to have.
Dmax have much more durability and longevity than any hilux
Value retention of the Hilux and poor durability and longevity of a Ranger? Sure, but poor durability and longevity of a Dmax? I think you need to put the glass didgeridoo down mate.
Love this channel boys keep it up 👍 ps: I’m probably going to get an 80 series for my first car
Cheers mate! 80 series are epic.
One thing that you forgot to mention is that for quite some time Toyota denied there was even a problem with their DPF's and when they did eventually have no choice but to admit it, they had to be dragged kicking and screaming to fix it. This company's arrogance, over blown delivery times, over blown pricing (compared to any of their competitors) considering the dated platform and tech as well as a lack of standard equipment are the main reasons (even though Ford are far from perfect) I bought a Next Gen Ranger instead instead of a Toyota.
i got a 2019 sr5 that came with a Dobinsons 2" lift, steel bullbar and some spotties for about 35 grand from my local black toyota. Seemed like a super good deal and it was my first own purchase of a car as my first car was an 2008 hilux i got from our family business. Some places have super good deals for these n80's
love the vid!! Can you do 90 series prado next
Jesse in depth as usual
I think both hilux and Px2/3 rangers have similar take on with their matters of design and issues. Although maybe if there is a huge enough differences between worth looking into the PX2/3 Ranger video as they just as popular as them.
@@harrywalker968 Mate, youve obviously never been out of the city. Hiluxs are everywhere out here mate
Even not being as reliable as older generations and already outdated, I'd go for one before a Ranger or an Amarok with a wet timing belt, here in Europe with the 2.0L engine.
Wet timing belt??
@@lachlanjackson6428 It's an internal timing belt emersed in oil.
@RogerM88 wet timing belts are fine when serviced as they should. Besides most here in NZ and probably Aus buy the V6 Rangers. They leave these Hiluxes for dead (coming from a Hilix driver)
Presume you mean the Ranger. Amarok doesn't have a wet timing belt - 2.0l very reliable.
@@ln5747 The new Amarok is essentially a rebadge Ranger.
I still believe n70 is way to go money wise
I have the 2018 Sr manual 352,060 on the odo I flogged it around vic alot of adventures drove it like I stole it didn't miss a beat only mechanical issue was a cv shaft, I serviced her myself which was either when I felt like it or every 20thousand, I recently just bought a n70 2013 model decided to go back to a older model with less electronics each to there own. But the n80s are decent vehicles.
I had my timing chain done under warranty, 2022 model
Best of buying a Mitsubishi Pajero I picked one up for 500 and I am now doing some modifications and should be on the tracks soon
I never had those issues. Main issue was the alternator and CV joints
Thats an awesome review Jesse bring more and more
Could you please do the n70 next?
Honestly Iam at the point where simple is better over that fancy stuff like sprayed on bedliner for the floor boards with drain plugs remove plugs wash with hose put plugs back clean
Great honest review. It would great if you reviewed a JL Rubicon.
Could you do an episode on the 1995 851 SP Ducati please.
Review something that nver gets enough love. Dare you to review NW - NX Pajero.
Great stuff Jesse!
Thanks for the info
Cheers legend!
For those complaining about the rangers you obviously forget that the 2.5 lt is a volvo rngine known for its problems, the 3.2 and 3.0 are reasonably reliable and my weat 3.0 pj closing in on 400k klms is only just needing some love .. maybe doing research before buying will help with future endeavours also service your damn vehicles so many issues are caused by simply neglecting the maintenance a vehicle needs to remain safe and reliable
......the engine that WILL out live diesels will be the 3RZ-FE....also these SR5's are getting snapped up in Japan due to 25yr USA import/classic car...there's one crazy youtuber buying these as Keepers.!!! also these were the last japanese built HiLux at the Hamura Hino Plant which now building the new Landcruiser for US market
Timing chain issues are still prominent in new models
More reliable and better resale than Nissan, Isuzu, Mazda & Mitz the issue is most prefer a cheaper option never had any problems with Toyota Hilux been driving them for 25 years
More reliable? 😂
Not since 2002 they're not.
more reliable than Isuzu, that's a wild take
Mechanics at Alberts diesel say from experience they aren't. The latest model navara plus Isuzu is a better vehicle.
@@matthewrodbourn2857 if they had the reliability the mines would be favouring them over Toyota,
They are not more reliable than any of those 😂
Hilux V6 ,very good Engine 🔥
If just useing for towing not four wheeling . What about Hi rise 2wd ?
How about some of the used Holdens?? Yes Holden are no more, but there are heaps of them out there, in the Ute and SUV (C7 and Trailblazer) configurations
My 23 N80 Rogue is magnificent. If your thinking about buying one, just do it.😁
*you're
@@ln5747 Only a know it all woman would do that.
Get a life faaark wit..
@@ln5747a spell check wain car 🤦♂️
Just buy a GQ or GU coily ute & chucka 18G on the Mighty TD42TI & ya sweet 👍.
My boss has a 2021 sr and 2023 sr5 and they both are not good on fuel both around 13.5-14L/100kms. My old mans 2019 rg Colorado does about 9-10L/100kms
Redriven is way better
Nah
I brought an N70 just the other day and the fact that the back seat doesn’t fold down and it didn’t have an anchor point for my sons car seat was a bit leg down
Just wait till the injectors shit themselves and melt a piston if you think an anchor points a problem. Or the oil pump blocks up from the leaking injector seals.
Keep saving your money bud, you'll need it.
I know a few friends who brought a ranger and they spent more time in the repair shop than on the road
I would never buy a ranger.
Toyota reliability is tried and tested
That’s a absolute lie unless your friends abuse their vehicles, my friend has a company and she uses Rangers as her company vehicles and they been fantastic for her
4ltr V6 was dropped in 2011 in the N70.
Not true. Was sold even in the early n80 hiluxs
i dont think yall get a Turbo Charged stock from the Factory like we do in Pakistan. Medium Spec as the SR
Can we see a video of 4wding on a budget maybe and SUV or cheap utes
Hey mate! You can check out our 'build ups' playlist on our UA-cam page and there is a good mix of budget & more expensive restorations. Choose your pick!
@@4WD247 Cheers 👍
I'd suggest buying a dirt bike if you're on a budget
Bought a second hand n80 at the start of this year after owning a triton. Best decision I've ever made
DPF button doesn’t work when pushed. Just says burn not required. Does it by itself self. Why do they even have it?
Could you guys do a video on the Isuzu D'max, Mitsubishi Triton and older landcruisers?
always enjoy watching and i find these "buying car tip" videos useful. I have a question, the 2nd hand market has changed over the past couple years making it hard for someone young to find a 4by worth buying. Either you buy one that's much older with high KM's or try get a loan. I'm probably going to get a bt-50 2010ish since you can get them for 15k, i've heard they're good utes but id be wary to go on any long trips.
what would you recommend in my situation?
Love the show, hopefully shauno or one of the boys will read this
Make sure you research the engine in the rig on forum pages on the internet or through social media pages. Also, if the rig is well looked after then it is highly likely the car is in immaculate running condition. Always check log books, thats a bonus to finding out about how well it's looked after!
Please do 100/105 series landcruisers. They never get mentioned.
My N70 V6 Petrol is still going strong at 320,000kms 😅
My only concern is how first owners abuse these type of cars knowing that they not gonna keep it for too long 😢😢 then as soon as i afford it, i must immediately replace suspension
Are you guys going to cover Isuzu? If not, would you mind doing one.
Toyota only mate
never get a n80or n70 if you want a solid reliable Ute that's better than a patrol and land cruiser get a 1978-1997 hilux they are the best of the best yes there slow but are tractors fast
please do a review on a d22 navara and what the differences are with the zd and the yd motors
Hmmm, good review. But be honest, N80 hilux was never a mildly serious offroad vehicle. They're great daily, or highway vehicles, but compared to 90s and 2000s live axle vehicles they are barely capable without tens of thousands of after market parts, just to get them on par with the older vehicles.
Review on the Nissan navara D40 vs the newer NP300
I had a n80 that had the timing chain issue before 50000km. It sounded absolutely awful and I’m sure damaging to the motor.
As a previous owner of the 2023 rogue I was honestly appalled after waiting 6 months then getting the ute and it being still super outdated and no different to the rest I sold it after four months making a one thousand dollar profit. Hope the next gen is better and to be honest more affordable...
What's the go with the 60 in the background? 👀
There’s also the TRD models
We have a 2018 sr5 265000kms and no dramas. But out 2020 model is due for its second timing chain with under 100000kms 😒
Should do an episode on the holden rodeo/colorado
I thought SR5s post 2018 had the rear/2nd row air vents.
Im a Nissan/Navara man, id like to see Navaras on the list
You can never go wrong with a GD6 Hilux loved in South Africa 🇿🇦
Be interesting to do one of these videos on a ford ranger
Jessie doing reviews 🙌
Instead of Jock-hilux-o
For work I'd go 2nd hand but for personal I'd buy new.
New toyotas? Hell no!! Old toyotas? He'll yeah!!!!
Not a mention of all the banged up rusty bash plates in the video being something to look out for ?
Bash plates are replaceable, not vital to the structural integrity of the car during sale!
True but it’s a good indicator of off-road use or abuse to steer away from
The N80 2.8 suffer from Piston 1 cracking? as do the older one's.
Buy a KZN165R and enjoy the extra $$$$ In your pocket and lack of speeding fines 😂
Idk why that sr5 did not have rear vents as mine does and its a 2018 model
It was just an sr not an sr5.
@curtis4925 he clearly said sr5 in the video. Sr don't come with climate control and they didn't show that in the video
If it’s come from the mines….RUN !!
Any used Amarok v6 reviews, especially high mileage ones
I have an n80…. Has apple car play, dpf burn is automatic or manual.
I honestly expected him to say Nissan Patrol when talking about which Hilix he’d buy
I’d take a D23 Navara over a Hilux personally…
Yd25 single turbo 😘
As a N80 Sr5 and workmate owner and owner of many earlier models please just stay away from the N80 unless you have money to burn.
Also what you cant see is the roof stiffeners let go causing drumming over corrugations the use of inferior rubber causing shrinking of rubber floor bungs,weather strips and vents i bought one and done a full tear down and uncovered numerous manufacturing faults all video document for the record.
I won't even bother telling you the problems I have had with mine.
Yep turbo dpf alternator. Owned since new spent so much money on it. Warranty is useless ended up doing the turbo and alternator myself and dpf was done by Toyota Warranty...just...
Hmmm bit concerning
I’d really like to know your opinions on the Mitsubishi Pajero Sport
Can you do one on a PX11 Ranger XLT/Wildtrak
Toyotas in simple terms in my opinion are overhyped/rated just because they are not comfortable and the driver mostly gets all the fun. Nissan Fan here
Agree… I’d take a Navara over a Hilux… underrated dcab 4x4…
I also bought the patrol over the Landcruiser.. never paying the Toyota tax…
Toyotas are really overrated
Until you own one... Then you finally understand what it's about
@@zutapi bloody oath mate
@@80serieslandcruiser had every flavor of ute brand, Isuzu, Mercedes, Mitsubishi, VW etc... I was fighting the "Toyota Gang" for many years. 3 years ago I bought a DC Hilux 1kd. Damn... that's another truck right there!!! Sold the MUX and bought a Prado right after 🙌🏻 the only brand that will outlast anything else is Toyota. Hands down
Do LandCruiser 100 series.
Would you consider doing one on the nissan N40
Please do a episode on Isuzu mux’s please
I know two chaps that regret selling their D4Ds and getting this new model
what about the 3.0l d4d engines I’d love to hear more about them
N70 with 1kd is the one your after
They are bullet proof! There’s a reason every army in 3rd world countrys have them
the new ones have apple carplay my dad has a 22