What Archaeology Reveals about the Historicity of the Exodus (2023 Dallas Conf. on Science & Faith)
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- Archeologist Titus Kennedy and philosopher of science Stephen Meyer explore what the science of archeology reveal about the historicity of the exodus of Jews from Egypt. Is the exodus a myth? Or is there evidence it really occurred? This session took place at the 2023 Dallas Conference on Science and Faith sponsored by Discovery Institute.
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Titus Kennedy is a field archaeologist working primarily with sites and materials of the ancient Near East and Mediterranean world. He earned his doctorate from University of South Africa in Biblical Archaeology and MA degrees from University of Toronto and University of South Africa. He is a Research Fellow at Discovery Institute and an Adjunct Professor at Biola University. His books include "Unearthing the Bible" and "Excavating the Evidence for Jesus." Stephen Meyer directs the Center for Science and Culture at the Discovery Institute in Seattle. He is author of the New York Times-bestseller "Darwin’s Doubt" (2013) as well as the books "Signature in the Cell (2009) and "Return of the God Hypothesis" (2021).
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What a wonderful presentation! Dr. Meyer was such a good interviewer, providing insight and summaries to Dr. Kennedy's narrative with warmth and humor. I do not give that evaluation lightly. Outstanding work.
This is a great time to be alive! So much great stuff emerging.
Attended the 2023 Science and Faith Conference. Loved it so much. Unfortunately can't make the 2024 but hope eventually the presentations will make it to youtube.
Big fan of Titus's work and his ability to powerfully communicate
Thanks Stephen & Titus and to everyone at Discovery Science for all the excellent information. Keep up the great work.👍
Meyers didn't dominate the conversion as many think. It's really just that Kennedy is a man of few words. That's why an interview format was better than just a lecture from Kennedy.
A lot of material there to unpack and study on! Thanks for this presentation! I found it very solid and informative! I had always struggled with the idea of the Nile turning to blood, and wondered what it could be. And find the information on Jericho to be quite fascinating. Great stuff!!
Wow! It surprised me to see Dr. Kennedy in a discussion with Dr. Meyer. I appreciate them both, but I am particularly impressed with Dr. Kennedy advancing so quickly. At least to me, he seems to have moved forward quickly, but the older I get, the faster time goes by.
Dr. Kennedy's drive to produce evidence is admirable and inspiring.
Pharoah Amenhotep II and Amenhotep III were both not first born sons. This fulfilled an important biblical criteria of the Exodus Pharoah.
Haha, this sounded familiar when watching and then realized I was there last year. Loved that conference! Can’t wait for 2024 conference next month.
Good stuff! Thank you for sharing.
Fascinating presentation of rigorous archeological evidence related to Biblical history. Thanks 🙏
I missed the rigorous part.
This is very interesting. It seems like more proof that the Bible is real. Good job by Titus Kennedy and Stephen Meyer. However, as for the plagues, it still has to be explained why then were they occurring just as Moses said that they would happen. Why would the river turn red just as he said it would when he used his rod? And other things right after the other as he said. If the story such as the Exodus is being proven by Archeology, should we not also believe that the stories in the Bible are real?
Sorry, what needs to be explained?
Wonderful. Thank you. ❤
Great presentation. Delighted to hear it.
I once read a note in a "Young oerson's study bible" that said that each of the plagues was designed by God to challenge and overturn the ruling gods of Egypt at the time. Titus pointed to the plague of darkness showing up ra's power as being superseded by the power of the God of Moses. G Ire
Excellent presentation, gentlemen.
Thank you for truth. This video must be shared! God bless you men of GOD for your commitment to truth 🙏🙏🙏
I've been a huge fan of archaeologist Douglas Petrovich and now I'm pleased to add Titus Kennedy as an archaeologist who confirms biblical truth through archaeology.
Both gentlemen have written for Bible and Spade the publication of the Associates for Biblical Research. Great organization.
Happy that you approach the event with an open mind. 😄😄
Ty for this
No exodus, no cry
Thank you vey much!
Awesome
Spectacular!
I would also be curious to hear your perspective on the most likely location of Mt Sinai: the Sinai peninsula, or Saudi Arabia.
It's always good for any preachers to learn about the biblical's story. Archeologists are doing great job and love that. May God bless you 🙏 all.
Dr. Douglas Petrovich has a fascinating take on this. Taken together, you have to just want to reject it to disbelieve it. That much evidence in any other context would be an accepted conclusion.
Nothing about Mt Sinai. Nothing about the Red Sea crossing.
Dear Dr Kennedy
Thank you for the interesting presentstion! I would be interested what you think about the mention of the tribe Reuben, Issachar and Asher exact in the right location during:
Ramses II (papyrus Anastasi I / Amarna West-list),
Sethos I (List XVII Wadi Abbad) and
Amenophis III ( / List CN li Qom el Hettan)?
I read it by Dr P. van der Veen
I'd heard most of this stuff a couple decades ago ..except the Shechem letter and the Amenhotep III 'Yahweh' inscription. Those were new to me.
Interesting stuff.
If takes six days to walk from Cairo to Jerusalem according to Google Maps. So Moses must have had a really bad sense of place.
amazing.
I'd love to have archeological corroboration in this regard - but I can't find where it says in Joshua chap 8 or 24 (or anywhere) that the native inhabitants of Shechem interacted in any way with the Israelites. (Note, however, there is no specific mention of conquest of Shechem in Joshua, which does lead to some speculation, since Shechem was apparently a leading city).
Since the Bible says others went along with the Israelites in the Exodus, would all of the Habiru need to have Hebrew names?
The way this video is presented makes it hard to follow the information given.
They really should consider putting in the description: (title with the time) for each piece of evidence used, for his argument he is making.
It makes it easier and accessible for the relevant information especially since this is accessible to the public.
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I didnt recognize Mr Kennedy without his hat!
The giant ones often have no fat and bring less at auction. The net take on this core depends on many factors but I’d guess this one would net the boat between $4K and 8K. This is before labor and operating expenses and boat depreciation. Forget the get-rich-quick storyline. This is a grueling and dangerous business
Did you joined the US ARMY Rangers, Dr. Kennedy? 😂
What is a conversations given just for thee all? Students will say what is missing? Offsprings preserve resting upon will say...remember thy shared as a little Child "i" AM. Yes including all THESE OLD MINDS. Students will say once "THY YOUTH"! Still thy glory just needed to be reminded written within them. Students Gather comes with comfort to remind...while moving forward...REMEMBER all thy feet resting upon? Why all thy feet desired? Obviously preserve...to reside prepared...unfamiliar ways of speaking unto many but yet is clear as water unto Whom BELONGS upon all gratitude and Honor knows belongs. A little Child where increase belongs will say? Gratitude and Honor go find thy rightful place upon all MY FEET RESTING UPON MY FOOTSTOOL!
600,000 + family. Let’s use 2,000,000 people. How about 2,000,000 people wondering. Where’s evid3nce of these people for 40 years? Where’s the food, homes, temples / shrine leftovers?
Food? Homes? Temples? Have you read the biblical account? Why would you expect to find these and why would not finding these confirm that it didn’t take place?
Food? Homes? Temples? Have you read the biblical account? Why would you expect to find these and why would not finding these confirm that it didn’t take place?
Maybe they didn’t fight with Shechem because Israel knew that there was supposed to be a truce with Jacob’s sons (that they didn’t honor) -similar to the Gibeonites
Okay. So, there's interesting research here. The presence of Jewish slaves in late bronze age Egypt seems established by those textual and archeological sources. As for the rest of the Exodus narrative ... Nothing for the period of wandering. Moses seems, at best, a composite legendary character still. And it still isn't clear that the Jewish-named slaves rebelled and fled from the Nile Valley to the land of Canaan. Nor is it established clearly that the Hebrews were NOT in Canaan prior to that point. Right?
I'll read the published findings to see if I'm missing something.
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Clearly, the fact that some parts of the Bible are supported by archeological evidence doesn’t imply the whole book is accurate.
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Sounds like the effect of a massive earthquake somewhere else...dark skies etc...
This is a very interesting topic.
It also shows that scientific authority is imputed on unfinished research, which is here well mentioned.
However, the interviewer was speaking too much on this video
Meyer didn't allow the guy to speak!
When or how did the Israelites and Moses start communicating in Hebrew instead of Egyptian. Moses was not educated in Hebrew and might have known some Greek. Why write anything in a primitive language.
Hebrew and Egyptian are similar languages like Italian and Spanish
@@maxsmart99doesn't make them the same language
You weren't there. How do you know he did not learn Hebrew from his nurse? or some other place?
All three monotheistic traditions are wrong. Get used to it.
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The evidence is there to show that God's word is true if people care enough to look.
No, it doesn't, not in it's entirety.
So people and cities mentioned in the Bible actually existed?. That doesn't make recent and global floods true, doesn't make anything supernatural true..
Certainly doesn't make humanity's origins, as per the Bible, true whatsoever..
Every, I mean every human mentioned in the Bible, is a primate..
You dont need a degree to work this out....seek the truth with your heart put your full trust in the love that os of good ...all systems were of the fallen ....
Instead of sitting there saying about the exodus show some proof there’s no archaeological finds of it it’s just in a book
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Moabites
Most biblical scholars say the exodus and moses never happened.
This is a minimalist perspective. Though it is dominant it is not a consensus. It is an academic controversy. That being said, the minimalists have actually been toning down their position in recent years and aren't quite as dogmatic as they once were.
They have not seen recent discoveries. They made up their minds,brains, I college and are too proud to admit that they could ever be wrong and have living a lie.
And it also has zero archeological evidence.
@@SperminHermanTheSquirminVermin No archeological evidence is a strong, possibly overwhelming, argument.
@@blusheep2 Your "minimalist" perspective is only due to the large number of people who blindly follow the biblical fairytale. Few of them have ever read the texts, much less studied them. This leads to huge sample bias. An honest survey of actual and unbiased scholars will find that few believe either the exodus or moses.
The entire story was made up to cover the expulsion of the jews by Egypt. Those few thousand jews went to jeruselm and blended in. No plagues, no miracles and no parting of the sea. Just a coverup story.
"But ID is not creationism, guys, honest!" 😅
Wouldn't that depend on how one defines "creationism?" The ID hypothesis mentions no God.
It's not.
50:48 Wait.. How do we know that the Pharoah who reigned when Moses first fled ruled for the 40 years that Moses was in Midian?
I read in Exodus 2:23 (NKJV), "Now it happened *in the process of time* that the king of Egypt died." - It doesn't say when within those 40 years that the king/Pharoah died. How do we know he didn't die earlier within that 40 year stretch?
For it also says in Exodus 4:19 (NKJV), "Now the Lord said to Moses in Midian, 'Go, return to Egypt, for *all the men* who sought your life are dead.'" - God doesn't just say the Pharoah, but *all the men.* Why do we assume that the Pharoah was the last to die (at the end of those 40 years) out of all of the men who sought Moses' life?
Am I missing something? I've listened to many claim that the Pharoah before the Pharoah of the Exodus reigned at least 40 years, but I never hear them explain how we know.
Three monotheistic groups believing the other ones will be canceled to hell. 😂😂
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It’s interesting that the Hebrews are a distinct people from the Semites. Most Palestinians are Semitic peoples. Most Jews are not Semitic. Judaism is a Religion not an ethnicity. The Hebrews were a tribe coming out of a Semitic people, most probably the Canaanites. So how can Palestinians be called antisemitic? I think.
Are you serious? If this is really a question, let me know and I will explain it.
Nobody plans language. It develops in odd ways over time. Lots of word usages are not logical, but rather expedient in certain contexts. If you ever try to help another person learn your language, you run into similar issues wherein a usage doesn't match its derivation. When usage is the answer, nobody is satisfied, but it is often the only one. You might think of how idiomatic references develop in families. Oblique references are sort of oral shorthand.
Excellent! We must take biblical dating seriously whether it has to do with 480 years or six days.
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So many archeological finds lately are supporting the historical portions of the Bible as true.
Amenhotep III reign using the most recent synchronisms is usually given to be 1389 to 1351 BC. If it began in 1400 BC it would still be six years too late to be 'Biblical'. And that is the only reason YEC selects it.
"Now these are the kings of the land whom Joshua and the sons of Israel defeated beyond the Jordan toward the west..." Joshua 12:12 "...the king of Gezer, one;"
But according to Dr. Kennedy 180 years later the Merneptah stele claimed "Seized upon is Gezer;" By the early date Chronology shouldn't 1220 BC be the time of Judge Ehud? Why, didn't Mernethah name the residents of Gezer as Israel? Something is seriously wrong with his history.
And the children of Israel did evil again in the sight of the LORD: and the LORD strengthened Eglon the king of Moab against Israel, because they had done evil in the sight of the LORD.
And he gathered unto him the children of Ammon and Amalek, and went and smote Israel, and possessed the city of palm trees.
So the children of Israel served Eglon the king of Moab eighteen years.
But when the children of Israel cried unto the LORD, the LORD raised them up a deliverer, Ehud the son of Gera, a Benjamite, a man lefthanded: and by him the children of Israel sent a present unto Eglon the king of Moab.
The Merneptah stele doesn't tell us who was living in Gezer. It's consistent with it being an Israelite town.
@@JM-jj3eg Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
@@501Mobius Of course, that's the point I was making. From the Merneptah stele, we don't know if Gezer was an Israelite town or not, so you can't use it to argue against an early date for the Exodus, and/or the reliability of Joshua 12:12.
The Exodus occurred in 1533 BC. It is a misreading of the text to mark the 480th year from the Exodus, since it is in the coming out of the children of Israel from Egypt. This occurred 40 years after the Exodus proper. We also can use the biblical chronology to place the 4th year of Solomon as 1013 BC. I address these in detail in my papers.
Not!
Amen ammon anum amun all the self appointed sun/air god names some of many and the amen in svripture means oeople are agreeing to the false god once again people hve been led away from the truth and not done as we were asked to remember the love in our hearts was given from the beginning and we were all asked to seek the truth with our hearts but people have chosen to bekeive in the word because they beleive the fallen sysyems and their words telling people not to tryst your heart but beleive the word .....think on this
What we are asked....
Or what we are told commanded to is military of a lord whom was a high chief commander under the Order of Melchizardek....
The chemical reaction turns the water red the doseases the oain the syphilis the fireball all of an enhanced nuclear volcanic explosion deliberately planned ....all of the fallen decendants ......
They were given dominion over all that was of good
How can you as archeologists talk about the so called Exodus and not mention Velikovsky who shows that the plagues in the story happened all over the world? I consider the religious story to come after the world conflagration for those who escaped. Filled with fear they made up stories why they survived and therefore have a right to the land of the Canaan. They are still doing it today.
And it certainly doesn’t show God’s mercy unless of course you are one of the chosen. It’s like an airplane crashes and you were suppose to be on the flight and you thank god you were not on it. Never mind the 500 people that lost their lives.
For example, archaeology shows us that the walls of Jericho were already destroyed long before Joshua was supposed to have gone through it. But it served the narrative of conquest.
Stop making excuses for the destructive powers of nature and have compassion on those who are in the boat with you (or on the plane going down).
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Those stories are the result of the dispersion of peoples after the flood. That dispersion is reflected in migrations and language groups. If you start from a point of anti-faith you will not be satisfied until someone digs up a beginning to end documented account, and then those with this mind-set may still come up with a reason to reject it.
All the Abrahamic sects are one religion.
No, they aren't.
What year did Jephthah’s burnt sacrifice of his virgin daughter that Yahweh found effective and/or satisfactory happen?
The plain fact is that after the millions and millions that Israel spent on archeology to prove its birth right, nothing was found -not the slightest trace of the 40 years of 'exodus' of Moses and his huge tribe in the desert. What they did find in the desert and in what is now Israel/Palestine, are countless of way older statues of Mother Gods. Exodus is a story. You might say a beautiful story... but the Amalekites might disagree.
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cant trust titus after watching him debate dr falk....
Fantasy
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Gosh I wish Stephen would shut up and let Titus talk.
YES!!!!
Misnomer.
It is the exodus of Israel, not the Jews (Judah) alone. Israel is the people of God in Exodus, not only Judah. There is a big difference between these two People groups. Using Euler diagrams visually demonstrates the point: Judah is inside the Israel group. These definitions are different for each scroll of the bible. Agreeing on terms is the first step in understanding those terms. Spiritual and physical definitions also vary. New and old testament definitions matter, as these definitions describe different people groups over millennia.
As a Christian, Truth matters. Poor definitions are poor instruction.
Let us define and agree on our terms before errors in understanding occur.
With the possible exception of 1000 or so Samaritans, the only Israelites who have survived to the current day are Jews. That is why the distinction you are making is not one that makes a difference.
Strictly speaking, the inhabitants of ancient Israel were Israelites,
but since the only surviving Israelites are Jews, the terms are sometimes used interchangeably. In Biblical and liturgical Hebrew
the usual word for Jews is Yisrael, (Israel) This is not a recent phenomenon. Jews have been the only Israelites since about the late eighth century B.C., when the Assyrians destroyed the northern kingdom.
According to Scripture, 2 Kings 17, Samaritans are foreigners who were settled in the north, but the Samaritans dispute that. Most modern scholars give their claim some level of credibility, but all of the theories of who they are, and where they came from, are speculation.
The venue defines the presuppositions. I prefer scholarship to indoctrination.
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Love Steve Meyer, but he needs to stop interrupting his guest.
For Christ's sake, stop saying Moses "murdered" the Egyptian. The Pentateuch says no such thing & St. Stephen in Acts clearly says it was a justifiable defensive action!
And what do you mean the penatuch says no such thing?
Moses DID MURDER the Egyptian for beating the Israeli slave. Do you not read your Bible
That doesn’t really matter to any end.
How would St Stephen know?
Murder is shedding innocent blood, so you have a good point.
BCE: Before Christ Existed (on earth) why do we incorporate these terms? was the era before Christ rare? because now apparently the times after he arrived are quite common.
Kinda funny
BCE is a secular historians' effort to remove the knowledge of Christ's influence on history. It stands for Before the Common Era, which is a lie, because many cultures have their own calendars. There is no common era. It has been widely adopted for uniformity's sake, but should not be.
Archaeology debunks the false prophet from Mecca and confirms Judaism and Christianity.
Disagree, all are proven by archeology at nearly the same rate, maybe more than zero, but certainly not by any statistically agreed upon p value.
Faith = superstition
Where did you come from, and what is the meaning of your life?
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Absolutely nothing.
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Hmmm. Looks like the Bible is true.
Land bridge in the Gulf of aqaba.
Let every man be a liar and Jesus the truth.
Biblical geographical indicators of the mountain of God.
-- It took almost 50 days to reach the mountain of God.
-- The mix multitude would have had no less than a three day head start on Pharaoh and his Army and most likely more when considering the logistics.
And they said, The God of the Hebrews hath met with us: let us go, we pray thee, *three days* journey into the desert, and sacrifice unto the LORD our God; lest he fall upon us with pestilence, or with the sword.
{Exodus 5:3}
And he said, The LORD came --from-- to Sinai, [point C] and rose up from Seir [point A] unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, [point B, in betwixt] and he *came with* ten thousands of saints [angels]: from his right hand went a fiery law for the.
{Deuteronomy 33:2}
In summary,
-- Seir [Edom]: point A is North
-- Mt. Paran [Arabia]: point B is South of Seir, and North of Mt. Horeb.
-- Mt. Horeb [Arabia]: is South from Mt. Paran, and South from Seir.
No detours Southwest to Egypt and the Sinai Peninsula.
The scriptures are more than clear, they came OUT OF EGYPT.
And it came to pass, when Pharaoh had let the people go, that *God led them not* through the way of the land of the Philistines, [the coastal route] although that was near; for God said, Lest peradventure the people repent when they see war, and they *return* to Egypt:
But God led the people about, through *the way of the wilderness of the Red sea* and the children of Israel went up harnessed *out of the land of Egypt*
{Exodus 13:17-18}
... [Day one]
And they took their journey from Succoth, and encamped in Etham, *in the edge of the wilderness*
And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; *to go by day and night*
He took not away the pillar of the cloud by day, nor the pillar of fire by night, from before the people.
{Exodus 13:20-22}
...
And it was told the king of Egypt that the people fled: and the heart of Pharaoh and of his servants was turned against the people, and they said, Why have we done this, that we have let Israel go from serving us?
(More then likely Pharaoh had spies following the mixed multitude, and when they continued after three days into the wilderness, and they did not stop to make offerings of sacrifice to God, the spies returned to Pharaoh with this news.)
And *he made ready his chariot* and took his people with him:
And he took six hundred chosen chariots, and all the chariots of Egypt, and captains over every one of them.
{Exodus 14:5-6}
(The logistics for this would have not been completed in a day.)
Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of *Midian* and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb.
{Exodus 3:1}
...
And he said, Certainly I will be with thee; and this shall be a token unto thee, that I have sent thee: *When thou hast brought forth the people out of Egypt ye shall serve God upon this mountain*
{Exodus 3:12}
And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Speak unto the children of Israel, that they turn and encamp before Pihahiroth, between Migdol and the sea, over against Baalzephon: *before it shall ye encamp by the sea*
For Pharaoh will say of the children of Israel, They are entangled in the land, *the wilderness hath shut them in*
And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, *that he shall follow after them* and I will be honoured upon Pharaoh, and upon all his host; that the Egyptians may know that I am the LORD. And they did so.
{Exodus 14:1-4}
-- Here we have proof that Pharaoh and his army did not follow the Exodus out of Egypt before he thought that they had trapped themselves in the wilderness be for the Red Sea and the wilderness.
-- Existential evidence from a pure military and security standpoint. God would not have lead Moses and the Exodus to the Sinai Peninsula in such close proximity to the danger of Egypt.
Can we just stop with the Ron Wyatt nonsense..
@@501Mobius What "nonsense" would that be?
All knowledge is in the bible. That makes discovery irrelevant. Change your name. And your suits.