BMW M4 CSL vs Porsche 911 GT3 Touring (4K)

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  • Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
  • #BMWM4CSL #Porsche #911GT3
    Find out how BMW’s M4 CSL gets on against the Porsche 911 GT3 Touring. Can the ultimate M4 topple one of Porsche’s finest ever GT3s or is the lure of the 911 too strong? Ben Barry is your guide…
    Chapters:
    0:00 - Intro
    1:48 - M4 CSL walkaround
    4:38 - M4 CSL Driving
    11:36 - 911 GT3 Driving
    20:17 - Verdict
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  • @CARmagazineTV
    @CARmagazineTV  Рік тому +16

    BMW M4 CSL or Porsche 911 GT3 Touring...
    Which car gets your vote? Let us know in the comments below!

    • @AB-fr2ei
      @AB-fr2ei Рік тому +52

      i dont think anyone would choose the BMW

    • @marcelooofenwonken4251
      @marcelooofenwonken4251 Рік тому +14

      I would take the CSL any day off the week
      Porsche is great, no doubt at all. BMW M4 CSL, is going to be a wild horse, not a tamed equestrian pony

    • @LilBunny6077
      @LilBunny6077 Рік тому +3

      @@AB-fr2ei seems your thoughts were wrong

    • @napalmhotdog4365
      @napalmhotdog4365 Рік тому

      @@LilBunny6077 he wasn’t wrong. He just didn’t account for the mental

    • @napalmhotdog4365
      @napalmhotdog4365 Рік тому

      @@LilBunny6077 he wasn’t wrong. He just didn’t account for the mental

  • @AndersChanTidemann
    @AndersChanTidemann Рік тому +85

    GT3 for me as well - I can’t really think of any car I want more than that one.

    • @odinikita4821
      @odinikita4821 Рік тому +4

      I agree but I also wouldn't mind the Cayman GT4 RS

  • @jordanjoestar8839
    @jordanjoestar8839 Рік тому +74

    The CSL is a cool project. Odd, quirky, goofy looking but purposeful. A school project from BMW.
    The GT3 is a literal art piece that instills awe and emotion. Timeless as ever. Crafted woefully by the all time masters.

    • @user-sh2lz8lc3o
      @user-sh2lz8lc3o Рік тому +2

      I’m a BMW guy, but since the BMW redesign nightmare, the Porsche wins even if it didn’t have a motor, lol.

    • @VanShiversMMCent
      @VanShiversMMCent Рік тому +1

      I feel bad for bmw with this comment 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @lambolife2908
      @lambolife2908 Рік тому +2

      Porsche - most boring looking car ever designed.

    • @iluvcakes19
      @iluvcakes19 Рік тому +1

      The GT3 is ugly & probably not timeless because every generation has them. 997 GT3 RS 4.0, now that is timeless. 992 GT3 IMO really isn't anything special among Porsche and GT3s.

  • @_Ambition124
    @_Ambition124 Рік тому +45

    Gt3 all day everyday, don't even have to think twice about choosing between the 2

  • @VK6AB-
    @VK6AB- Рік тому +47

    Its a no brainer, 992 GT3 easy choice. The M4 CSL is probably 200kg heavier than the GT3, GT3 has NA 500HP engine that revs to 9000 rpm - it isn't really a contest.
    The M4 CSL weighs nearly 3,600 lbs - that is not light weight at least my book. Good review.

    • @nezabytes
      @nezabytes Рік тому

      Facts!!!

    • @ab185
      @ab185 Рік тому +3

      One can be purchased easily. The other costs $100K over MSRP. No contest indeed.

    • @minigiant8998
      @minigiant8998 Рік тому +2

      yeah but the m4 can hold more stuff...

    • @iluvcakes19
      @iluvcakes19 Рік тому +1

      Both are ugly. But at least the BMW is ugly AND cool looking.

    • @VK6AB-
      @VK6AB- Рік тому

      @@iluvcakes19 Looks like a Hyundai

  • @mohamedhossam5195
    @mohamedhossam5195 Рік тому +149

    There's no way you can get a GT3 touring for the same money as a CSL. On paper maybe but in real life impossible. Also the price of the GT3 is without any options- add 20-30k- where as the CSL is fully loaded. Like someone said here a GTS with the lightweight pack is more comparable.

    • @TheHoosiers2008
      @TheHoosiers2008 Рік тому +29

      Correct, but this is also correct “no way you can get a CSL for MSRP”

    • @mohamedhossam5195
      @mohamedhossam5195 Рік тому +13

      @@TheHoosiers2008 GT3 here in the US is close to $200k with options without markup. Then add the crazy GT3 markups of up to $100k. CSL is $145k with all options. Max markup I've heard is $50k. Not even close.

    • @bri1042
      @bri1042 Рік тому +14

      Pricing spread between Porsche and BMW is a bit different in the UK vs the US (making an assumption on locations, apologies if the assumption is incorrect). The vast MSRP spread in the US is less in the UK. But it's all academic. Almost no one can actually buy a GT3, even if they have the money...and the CSL is nearly as hard to come by. Might as well have a discussion about which planet you want to own.

    • @CanyonsCarver
      @CanyonsCarver Рік тому +13

      It is a BMW, doesn't have the same pedigree

    • @lordmaster5522
      @lordmaster5522 Рік тому +7

      Forget the GT3 the , I would just get the cheaper GT4-RS with 10hp less and save tons of money over both of these.

  • @Overitall805
    @Overitall805 Рік тому +25

    I'm so fascinated by the socio/psychological bug that crawled in our ears and made "too loud" and "over indulgent"....bad things.
    Enjoying our lives is as valuable as anything else we do ...as it makes for life worth living . It's art, passion, love and beauty ...and THIS...is what these cars are all about...Life Worth Living For.

    • @mohamedhossam5195
      @mohamedhossam5195 Рік тому +4

      It's a strange world. If it's quiet then they'll say it's too quite and lack character and now it's too loud lol. They just have to find something to criticize to prove that they're doing their job.

    • @philippebeinaerts
      @philippebeinaerts Рік тому +1

      Absolutely correct

  • @nathanb2100
    @nathanb2100 Рік тому +83

    I'd go for the GT3 Touring 😄, although it's great to see the CSL name back on a BMW :)

    • @bokiNYC
      @bokiNYC Рік тому

      Agree 100%! 👍

    • @byhsu6140
      @byhsu6140 7 місяців тому

      Their slogan says it all. Porsche, there is NO substitute !!!

  • @1seipai
    @1seipai Рік тому +15

    I couldn't agree more. For driver involvement, purity, and a fantastic engine there's no comparison - GT3 all the way. The e46 CSL was different as it had a fantastic NA engine.

  • @Carrera-gp9od
    @Carrera-gp9od Рік тому +29

    I’m sure the new one is a magnificent machine but holy shit it looks like a dogs dinner next to the e46 !

  • @jamesj97370
    @jamesj97370 Рік тому +15

    Before I've even watched the video you'd have the GT3 🤣

  • @napalmhotdog4365
    @napalmhotdog4365 Рік тому +17

    How could this even be a comparison?

    • @wezob4569
      @wezob4569 Рік тому +2

      Similar pricing 🥴

    • @thefallenvalley4340
      @thefallenvalley4340 Рік тому

      @@wezob4569 BMW is more of a collection car

    • @jasonpmcqueen
      @jasonpmcqueen Рік тому

      @@wezob4569 Maybe list price but IRL the GT3 is about 100k more

  • @tahag2107
    @tahag2107 Рік тому +31

    This is fast becoming a channel you can confidently hit the like button before even watching the video. Great work

  • @FreshlySnipes
    @FreshlySnipes Рік тому +6

    CSL was just dyno’d @ 597hp. 👀

  • @bsteamer10
    @bsteamer10 Рік тому +7

    What a blessing to be able to drive both of these cars. 100% my dreams cars, GT3 RS though.

  • @kahmed7328
    @kahmed7328 Рік тому +62

    I’ll take the GT3.

    • @zzhughesd
      @zzhughesd Рік тому +3

      Agreed. CSL tasty as. For an M Product. But. How could you give it 5 seconds thought over GT product Porker???? It’s like McDonalds over full on Italian restaurant San Carlo style. I’m probably wrong. For that I love all the BM fans.

    • @dobremihai8183
      @dobremihai8183 Рік тому +2

      Amen

    • @hottub2249
      @hottub2249 Рік тому

      😂👆🏾. Concur though!

    • @verde629
      @verde629 Рік тому

      I’ll take a used G80 comp because that’s the only one I can afford atm lol

  • @andynorth426
    @andynorth426 Рік тому +7

    Porsche everyday without question but the csl is an excellent car

  • @jennypenny7243
    @jennypenny7243 Рік тому +18

    CSL is my pick.

    • @napalmhotdog4365
      @napalmhotdog4365 Рік тому +1

      Why?

    • @sejtanskifazoni5752
      @sejtanskifazoni5752 Рік тому +5

      @@napalmhotdog4365 its his liking why he should explain it

    • @TrueFilter
      @TrueFilter Рік тому +2

      @@sejtanskifazoni5752 more special, useable. The 911 just looks like another 911.

    • @sejtanskifazoni5752
      @sejtanskifazoni5752 Рік тому

      @@TrueFilter I mean GT3 is really nice dream car to be honest but M4 CSL its just more special Beast of a car

    • @jennypenny7243
      @jennypenny7243 Рік тому +1

      @@napalmhotdog4365 Its because it is a do all car. Practical enough for empty nesters, fun enough for the weekends, special enough to be loved.

  • @carfan3762
    @carfan3762 Рік тому +17

    I agree with your conclusion, but the BMW CSL is also a masterpiece in its own wright. Two icons. Splendid !

    • @bokiNYC
      @bokiNYC Рік тому

      Right 👍

    • @pranavyalamanchili125
      @pranavyalamanchili125 Рік тому +4

      I think you are forgetting the fact that one of the cars is hideous

    • @CanyonsCarver
      @CanyonsCarver Рік тому +3

      A masterpiece? Tell me you are being a fanboy

    • @993mike
      @993mike Рік тому +1

      I’ve owned six M3’s, but there is absolutely no way I would own this giant ugly beast. GT3 all the way

  • @SmoyKa
    @SmoyKa Рік тому +6

    CORRECTION: CSL stands for Competition Sport Lightweight

  • @mrnicktoyou
    @mrnicktoyou Рік тому +2

    I wonder if BMW stuck to the naturally aspirated six cylinder formula like Porsche did, and used a 4.0 litre inline six making 500bhp, if it would make their cars more special. I think it might.

  • @cornishrider
    @cornishrider Рік тому +5

    Thank you Ben a very comprehensive and enthusiastic review, the BMW is some bit of Kit but for me it has to be the Porsche in white, manual with blue interior!

  • @mariodiniz21
    @mariodiniz21 Рік тому +7

    Ben is up there with the best automotive journalists ever, so underrated unfortunately. Great review and video.

  • @caribbeanseas
    @caribbeanseas Рік тому +3

    I have an M4 comp Xdrive so I do have a preference for BMW but let’s be honest here….there really is no competition here between the GT3. The sound the capability the straight out pace on a track. It’s in another league.

  • @stevebartlett5803
    @stevebartlett5803 Рік тому +7

    More videos from Ben please!

  • @philippebeinaerts
    @philippebeinaerts Рік тому

    Good to see CAR do in video what it does so well in print.

  • @asmrrelaxationtv8673
    @asmrrelaxationtv8673 Рік тому

    Great Content. Thank You for sharing. have a nice day!❤👍

  • @philamor5139
    @philamor5139 Рік тому

    great choices for comparison . honestly great pics

  • @jameswillard1
    @jameswillard1 Рік тому +2

    The truth is these cars aren’t really comparable in terms of anything except that they are the “highest performing drivers cars” in their respective lineups. Back 20 years ago when the E46 M3 CSL was out, both it and the 911 GT3 of the time were very similar in terms of weight …..now 2 decades later and there’s about 650-700lbs difference and that alone means the BMW has no shot at being a true drivers car like this GT3 Touring is. Porsche should be commended for keeping the GT3 mythos so close to (or better in many cases) the original, it revs higher, is still a manual transmission, sounds as good as ever, and has a ton of Motorsport character intact

  • @Whiters8
    @Whiters8 Рік тому +10

    Ben's one of my favourites. There are loads of good presenters these days, with different qualities but Ben's USP for me is not being fussed about pure 'presenter polish'. Feels like you're in the car with a good mate talking with real enthusiasm. Great vid, cheers.

    • @kindface
      @kindface Рік тому +1

      Nice advertising.

  • @jcsquared1111
    @jcsquared1111 Рік тому +2

    What I wouldnt do to own that M4 its simply beautiful abd sounds amazing can only imagine how she pulls!! Great vid!!

  • @plife911
    @plife911 Рік тому +18

    Very nice video. Owned and reviewed both the g80 and 992 touring. These cars are not comparable. The touring is way more expensive and is built on a race car platform. The csl is built on a 3 series road car platform. Both are amazing in their own right, they just couldnt be more different and they are not really competing in the same segment. At least a pdk touring may have been a better comparison. I still dont think a better value for money car exists than the g80

  • @mattbonnell7023
    @mattbonnell7023 Рік тому

    Great review!

  • @Dontevista4
    @Dontevista4 Рік тому +2

    No one in their right mind would pick an M4 over a GT3 if money wasn’t the question. I’d would rather have a Carrera 4S than a CSL any day !

  • @davidbee9563
    @davidbee9563 Рік тому +5

    Seems a repeat of the e46 CSL. It can go so far as a sports coupe but compromised by a shared platform with the sedan/touring models. Can't compete with the purer sports car platform of the 911/Cayman for the final 10%. Better traction and less torque makes the 911 more usable on the road. Torque of the M4 turbo makes it necessary to use traction control to dial it back to prevent the power from upsetting the chassis.

  • @slytherben
    @slytherben Рік тому +6

    Really enjoyed this! I feel so sorry for BMW enthusiasts. I'm so sorry BMW has forsaken all of you. I hope Porsche never changes. But with the IPO, who knows...

  • @massimilianozeni1848
    @massimilianozeni1848 Рік тому +2

    I d just add a fixed ducktail! It s just perfect

  • @jonathancooper7042
    @jonathancooper7042 Рік тому +4

    Excellent review Ben, excellent. So much better than the 0-60, straight line YoofTubers. Keep up the analogue Car mag reviews, but pls post more vids. And yep, GT3 … altho as a Porsche owner (x1 , vs x7 BMWs) I dream of the day I get ‘invited’ to own one 😕

  • @omarvasquez3855
    @omarvasquez3855 Рік тому +5

    GT3 for me. The only other car I can think of I may want more is an AMG GTR, just for the engine note.

    • @napalmhotdog4365
      @napalmhotdog4365 Рік тому +1

      Have driven both. 992 gt3 (with wing) and AMG GTR. The amg hardly makes a sound compared to the Porsche, trust me

  • @ZenJuddhism
    @ZenJuddhism Рік тому +3

    hats off to BMW for their steadfast refusal to make a good looking car for the last 20 years, 6 series gran coupe apart.

  • @ChandrinKatuwawala
    @ChandrinKatuwawala Рік тому +4

    THat Porsche is the most beautiful thing I have seen.

  • @philmountain9290
    @philmountain9290 Рік тому +2

    So this is a great review, the guy talks like a proper car guy.. really good
    Both great cars, I’d take the M4 though

  • @timmietz
    @timmietz Рік тому +6

    Thank you for the video. It’s a good one! One thing I want to point out, is that the direct competition two and 40 SL is not GT three touring, it is a PDK GTS with Carbon ceramic brakes and bucket seats. That way, you are comparing apples to apples. You are comparing 2 six cylinder 3 L turbo engines, and cars that cost roughly about the same amount of money. Apples to apples, here in the US, fully loaded GTS is going to be about $30,000 more than the M4 CSL, but it is close enough. Market value of a GT three touring is $100,000 more here in the US than it is of the M4 CSL, So, frankly, it’s just not a fair comparison.

    • @CARmagazineTV
      @CARmagazineTV  Рік тому +3

      In the UK, the M4 CSL is £129k and the 911 GT3 is about £136k, so there’s very little in it.

    • @enigmatwist6548
      @enigmatwist6548 Рік тому +3

      @@CARmagazineTV That’s the “recommended list price” the price you pay is usually considerably more and often entails having to buy other Porsches. I agree with other posts, a suitably specked GTS would have been a better choice for comparison.

    • @willr8768
      @willr8768 Рік тому +1

      @@CARmagazineTV good luck buying a GT3 in the UK unless you've bought multiple other Porsches in the past. In the US both are marked up heavily by dealers, the CSL is a $200k car and the GT3 a $300k car (give or take). Run that against the current exchange rate!

  • @STRmw2
    @STRmw2 Рік тому +2

    here we go again
    reminds me of top gears m4 gts vs gt3

  • @GarryMcGovern
    @GarryMcGovern Рік тому +3

    I'll take my GT3 in black with the PDK. I have enough old cars with manuals and I've been driving them since the 80's, so the novelty of some extra perceived 'involvement' in a manual just seems weird to me. There is just way too much potential to exploit (or at least TRY to exploit!) in the GT3 and the average human will never get close to it on the road. The car was engineered as a PDK (the manual thrown in for investors, Americans, and Millennials brought up on GranTurismo), so I want my hands on the wheel, fingers dancing with the paddle shifters, and full on focus on hitting that apex as fast as possible. Ahhhhh, divine!

    • @reaver9
      @reaver9 Рік тому

      I had a good laugh reading it, I'm in a manual camp but indeed the legendary involvement at this stage is largely a marketing fluff.

    • @oemj7147
      @oemj7147 Рік тому

      @@reaver9 You're not in any manual camp. I am, and I wouldn't touch any automatic car no matter how good.

  • @ccarr1286
    @ccarr1286 Рік тому +2

    That sound at 12:04 🔥

    • @CARmagazineTV
      @CARmagazineTV  Рік тому

      If only you were there to hear it Chris! 😊 It's harmonious isn't it!

  • @naa6256
    @naa6256 Рік тому

    I like both their looks

  • @chrisduran3007
    @chrisduran3007 Рік тому

    It’s scary that I remember Ben’s e36 M3 from Max Power in the late 90s in my early teens! Seem to remember blue paint work and possibly a magnex exhaust?

  • @houssamalucad753
    @houssamalucad753 Рік тому +2

    The gt3 looks great and futuristic but that BMW is 🔥🔥🔥
    They somehow made an incredible design out of that weird grill

  • @m3drivr
    @m3drivr Рік тому +1

    I like M Power, this if you gave me a choice, GT3. The CSL doesn’t even come close to attracting me especially with the design and overall strategy BMW is on nowadays.

  • @dougharlow6037
    @dougharlow6037 Рік тому

    Love this BMW M4 CSL, HATE the grill. Love the Porsche 911 GT3 Touring and love the grill. Thanks

  • @leighandrews8863
    @leighandrews8863 Рік тому +2

    M4 CSL far more special than the GT3 which is now a regular model in the Porsche line up for each iteration.

    • @schallrauch1187
      @schallrauch1187 Рік тому +1

      You are right, BMW CSL is more exclusiv special than Porsche GT3 in their Regiulars...different to the higher Prices from Porsche.

  • @mugammadbehardien6139
    @mugammadbehardien6139 Рік тому +4

    Over the years with BMW vs Porsche comparisons the Porsche always wins as it is a thoroughbred sports car from get go whereas the BM M's are based on road going passenger cars. I will always pick the BM though.

  • @workspilot.
    @workspilot. Рік тому

    That fly on 2:26 understands the elegance of the CSL!

  • @AllIsWell_22
    @AllIsWell_22 Рік тому

    Great video! I hope you can do a review of the Camaro ZL1/1LE (Manual). It's the best iteration of the Alpha chassis and it would nice to have some American representation on this channel.

    • @CARmagazineTV
      @CARmagazineTV  Рік тому

      Noted, we’ll try and get some more American cars in!

  • @manfromwuhan714
    @manfromwuhan714 Рік тому +1

    Dolomite silver looks so good

  • @pereldh5741
    @pereldh5741 Рік тому +4

    Club Sport Leicht isn’t it…?

  • @kingdomfunding
    @kingdomfunding Рік тому +1

    these two are not comparable in any way. Cool cars, great cinematics, got the concept wrong though.

  • @thejonathandoan
    @thejonathandoan Рік тому +4

    The BMW could be made of gold, I still wouldn't care; I would take the Porsche all day every day. Yes, it's subjective, but I'd take a 911 over almost any car on earth.

  • @KosmicHRTRacingTeam
    @KosmicHRTRacingTeam Рік тому +6

    Completely different class of cars. As a former M3 owner and current 911 owner, even the “special” versions of the M3/4 still doesn’t beat a pedestrian 911S and especially the GTS (same tires, same track, same driver, same day). The GT3 product is in another league, then you have the GT3RS and then the GT2RS. So ya, the very pinnacle of BMW doesn’t touch the pinnacle of Porsche.

  • @gurgenmakaryan4428
    @gurgenmakaryan4428 Рік тому

    GT 3, pure pleasure, smart investment, outstanding driving impressions!

  • @samieb155
    @samieb155 Рік тому +1

    I'd have the GT3 Touring with a PDK. As good as the new CSL is, the E46 CSL is a much better car. Just wish I still had mine. I'd stick with an M2 comp as everyday car and the weekends with the GT3 T, the best of both worlds tbh.

  • @buildindian8169
    @buildindian8169 Рік тому +1

    There is nothing calm and subtle about my DCT F80…it kicks you in the butt

  • @mspeed2441
    @mspeed2441 Рік тому +1

    Great test. I'm a little embittered because the M4 CSL is just so much cheaper that the GT3. In fact, the CSL is the same price as a base 911 Carrera buld: $140,000USD. That's kind of stupid.
    Did you hear that Porsche is changing their model name to Ferrari? Porsche Ferrari GT3? They decided that the only way to make their cars even more expensive was to add Ferrari to the name.
    Seriously, I just built a "normal" GT3: $220,000USD. Not even the RS. No wonder why Audi is considering an F1 team.

  • @garyjohnson3751
    @garyjohnson3751 6 місяців тому

    I’ve had my gt3 for just over a month & it’s the best! Machine I’ve ever owned especially with the 6 speed manual

  • @Designcaj123
    @Designcaj123 Рік тому +1

    Porsche is in a completely different league.

  • @yatty1673
    @yatty1673 Рік тому +1

    Porsche all day long however if it was my money i'd buy the CSL purely because its low in production numbers (only 100 coming to the UK) & so has the potential to hold and even help you profit on the initial investment.

  • @johnm5131
    @johnm5131 Рік тому +1

    cool car, the CSL. But hard to see the point: design a very heavy car, then charge the customer insane money to try make it as light as its competition, and still failing? Meanwhile the GT3 is a pure design that needs none of the trickery. Even worse, how does this CSL compare to lower 911s? A would suggest even the 911 GTS would make the CSL seem non-sensical.

  • @pfan12000
    @pfan12000 Рік тому

    What happens to carbon fiber roof panels during a rollover? Does it shatter and the occupants get decapitated by the sharp edges?

    • @CARmagazineTV
      @CARmagazineTV  Рік тому

      Interesting thought process you have there.

  • @HanLi1984
    @HanLi1984 Рік тому +2

    Both are so amazing. Should I sell my 911 C2S and get the CSL?

    • @MRAWES0ME510
      @MRAWES0ME510 Рік тому +2

      No.

    • @richardconway6425
      @richardconway6425 Рік тому +1

      What??!!
      I have aspired to own a 911 all my life. Many people do. Because they are special, in ways that can be defined, and in ways that cannot.
      If you sold your C2S for a BMW, I don't think it would be long before you regretted it. Is it because the csl has more power? More torque? Yes, it has a lot more mid range torque, which is nice, but it comes with strings attached. 200 of them. Which is not nice. Weight is the enemy of a sports car.
      If you want a more powerful, faster car, then upgrade to a 'better' porsche, but frankly, I find it a little difficult to understand how a C2S is not all of these things already.

  • @user-xg9jn4my1u
    @user-xg9jn4my1u Рік тому +3

    1:41 G82 may looks ugly alone but incomparison to f82 side by side, its massive improvement...wow very impressive. F82 looks so archaic even more than e46 m3.

  • @peterh225
    @peterh225 Рік тому +2

    The E46 is the M3 Csl to buy…😊

  • @888mf4
    @888mf4 11 місяців тому

    The real question for me is whether the CSL is worth double the price of an M4 Competition. A used M4 Comp is £70,000 at the moment and a CSL is £140,000. I think we all know the answer to that.

    • @joe718gt4
      @joe718gt4 10 місяців тому

      Someone who washes my car says his uncle is a SM at a BMW dealership and doesn't know why people pay ADM on M3 CS's, so there's that

  • @ertugrulbae46
    @ertugrulbae46 Рік тому +1

    Porsche is a different class of cars than BMW family cars. Porsche is sports/track car first - everything else later.
    BMW M4CSL was described as "Road car first" and track car second.

  • @byhsu6140
    @byhsu6140 7 місяців тому

    My favorite 911. This comparison is a little like the beauty and the beast.

  • @nmnnmtoto
    @nmnnmtoto Рік тому

    the bug at 2:25 💀dude wants the car too

  • @carterlegendary3487
    @carterlegendary3487 Рік тому

    The BMW isn't a bad car but I prefer the Porsche. Great review Ben!

  • @Luke-cb3ly
    @Luke-cb3ly Рік тому +1

    for me Porsche's and Corvette's are above the rest. but the CSL is pretty impressive

  • @Jestes304
    @Jestes304 Рік тому

    Whatever you choose is win win

  • @mohamedashry3337
    @mohamedashry3337 Рік тому

    Both performance car and respect..I lv m4 interior with race seat in sky colour with lemon acid colour interior...but always remember porsche mean durability

  • @thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921

    Both of these cars are beyond comical next to GMs C8 lineup.

  • @user-qn6yt3zx3w
    @user-qn6yt3zx3w Рік тому

    The GT3 is a legendary performer, whereas the most legendary aspect of the BMW, is its fan base.
    Let’s be honest though, either one would be a total privilege to own.

  • @darrenprior6339
    @darrenprior6339 Рік тому

    That 911 9,000rpm engine is a jewel. Who cares about BMW after experiencing that???!!!

  • @milootje007
    @milootje007 11 місяців тому

    I'll have the touring please, thank you very much.

  • @miraclemiler71
    @miraclemiler71 Рік тому

    GT3 all day, every day, and six ways from Sunday. Although would prefer it in 6MT.

  • @cayman9815
    @cayman9815 Рік тому

    GT3 PDK please

  • @stevosd60
    @stevosd60 Рік тому

    Porsche v BMW is like lotus Cortina v GT Cortina .. both seem similar at first glance but there is always the same winner
    I own a BMW but would prefer a Porsche any day.
    It's only the price and practical ability that holds me back

  • @sabastiantaylor7209
    @sabastiantaylor7209 Рік тому

    I have a 2012 gtr rs4.0. I’m very curious to see how much more they got out of the new one.

  • @GeordieAmanda
    @GeordieAmanda Рік тому

    I thought BMW dropped the manual gearbox because it couldn't handle the high torque of the new engine in Comp (and CSL) guise?

  • @SteYoung
    @SteYoung Рік тому

    Nice to add the M4 CSL to this Porsche GT3 Touring review.You wouldve thought the GT3 was a groundup built sports car who's sole goal was ultimate performance. Oh wait........#Chalkandcheese

  • @autointern7371
    @autointern7371 Рік тому +1

    I think any car enthusiast knows that you can’t compare an m4 to a gt3…

    • @CARmagazineTV
      @CARmagazineTV  Рік тому

      We just did. 😏

    • @autointern7371
      @autointern7371 Рік тому

      @@CARmagazineTV props on the vid. Everything was on point and overall great. What I am trying to say is that the porsche gt3 has always been on top of the game compared to a m3/m4. Its a no brainer that the gt3 is better than the bmw. Anyways, m3/m4 are amazing cars still. Disclaimer: I have a f80 m3 🤣

  • @woodypwx
    @woodypwx Рік тому

    GT3 Touring, anytime!

  • @Pistolpete218
    @Pistolpete218 Рік тому +2

    The m4 is the type of car that you want to run a front plate

  • @security_threat
    @security_threat Рік тому +2

    🙅‍♂️GT3 Touring vs m3 CSL is a BAD Comparison! If you want to compare a Porsche 911 to the M3 CSL then compare the 911 GTS to the CSL. Thats a fair comparison! Both boosted 3L turbos RWD cars!!!! 🌀💨🏎

  • @juanduque3224
    @juanduque3224 Рік тому

    What type of comparison is this?

  • @ADIG01
    @ADIG01 Рік тому

    M4 CSL😍🚀

  • @HomeshighlandPark
    @HomeshighlandPark Рік тому

    Bmw if I want resale. Porsche if I’m feeling practicals

  • @designed4yous
    @designed4yous Рік тому

    Incredible reviews and cinematography, but again, another strange CAR mag editor choice when it comes to cars to compare. Might as well have thrown in a McLaren “GT” or a Nissan “GTR”

  • @jameswade9077
    @jameswade9077 Рік тому +1

    I’m a huge Beamer fan but Porsche gets my vote on this one

  • @xorbitman
    @xorbitman Рік тому +3

    I guarantee that if you dyno this car, it will produce a lot more than the "official" HP and TQ. Excellent review with all the bits and bobs we love to hear about. Still though, I'm not a fan of that grill and I'm sure I'm not alone. I/m willing to bet that the new M2 CSL is a better handling sports car.

    • @chrisg4rr377
      @chrisg4rr377 Рік тому

      But have you seen what the new m2 looks like? Its minging