You're right on point. The iron remover is great for particulates, but really doesn't make a dent in regular day to day "road grime." TBH, Meguiar's hot rims wheel and tire cleaner works pretty well for the day to day grime, for an off the shelf product.
Here's the deal, the Turtle wax is MEGA strong and does not need to go on full strength. Put it 3 oz in a IK Foam Pro 2 sprayer and it works just as well and lasts 10x longer!
From my limited experience I believe most tire cleaners work about the same, they all require scrubbing (which is fine to me) but I believe scrubbing does a lot of the cleaning itself. Limiting what a cleaner can do, and leaving the potential difference between two different cleaners very small. I like to heavily clean my tires every 4-6 months (when I feel it needs it) mostly based on appearance, and maybe a light single pass scrub every 1-2 months just to help maintain a certain level of clean before I need to really scrub them down. I like to try new products, it's something to do, I always feel I can learn something new, but I've yet to find a product which worked noticeably better than any other I've used at any price. Every now, and than I will detail a family members car when they ask, it's easy money, and in situations like that, regardless of what tire cleaner I'm using, be it a cheap degreaser, or $12 bottle it will take 2-3 deep scrubbing passes per tire to get them to a point where I feel is acceptable to me. I don't much see the point in higher end tire cleaners, I don't believe they are a scam, or a waste of money I just don't believe I'm the target consumer for them. I don't believe most detailers are either, as maintaining a healthy profit margin is the point of the business (though it depends on what type of consumer you are after). You can easily spend a lot of money on products detailing a car, but you can also use cheap products and still get to that same level of clean in about the same time. These products to me seem to be targeted to consumers who don't know a ton about products and simply default to more expensive = better, which is fine, the products are not bad, I just can't personally justify them myself if I can do the same thing for 3-4 times less.
I just tried the Turtle Wax Wheel & Tire Prep for the 1st time today and it did a wonderful job. I did use a brush on the tire and two different brushes on the rims, but again they turned out amazing. I did all 4 tires and rims, Buick Encore, and only had to spray them 1x. I still have half the bottle left, so I should be able to get one more car done. Oh, I don't know why but I really liked the smell of the turtle wax wheel & tire prep. I still need to apply tire dressing, I usually use Hybrid Solutions Graphene Acrylic Tire Shine Spray Coating which leaves a really nice satin sheen that last about a month for me.
rotten eggs smell for turtle wax.. might be my tires were really dirty .. cleaning after 8 - 10 months ... fumes were coming out on a nice overcast day..i think its alkaline based.. not a big fan but gets the job done. I let it dwell wash it and it took me 2 tries to clean the wheels ... yes you're right .. i have barely any product left after cleaning all 4 tires..
Used the TW w&T prep and it still has a pungent smell...more so than the Meguires hot rim (pink bittle)....I never do touchless wheel cleaning...first, I use less product and second, I ensure more areas get touched w/cleaner (inner barrel).
If the wheels are really caked in then I’ll use the meguires first and rinse off then use the rapid decon and then contact wash the wheels and rinse off, otherwise if it is is medium contamination I will just use the rapid decon instead of the hybrid. Foaming is key for contact wash so will add some autoglym snow foam to the wheel as well. As for the tyres I will also use a specialist tyre cleaner because rubber is very porous and you need a good dedicated tyre cleaner like Geyon’s with a decent tyre brush at least 2 goes until it goes white. This then makes the final tyre shine really embed into the tyre and not only last longer but provides a really deep shine
Love the turtle wax! I bought it plus the iron remover/wheel cleaner and the tire foam worked fantastically! I used their new tire shine and it has been the best I've used as far as performance and durability. Excellent products for sure!!
Meguiars isn't too bad, but there isn't a wheel cleaner on the market which comes close to Bilt Hamber Auto Wheel. Bilt Hamber is by FAR the most reactive iron remover, it goes dark red quicker than any other (and I have tried at least 20 others), and it also has great detergent cleaning ability too. It's also CHEAP !
@@JCampbell91x It has the most reactive iron remover of any wheel cleaner I have tried, it turns dark red very quickly. But on top of that, it also has some very good cleaning chemical in too, I wouldn't use anything else now.
Yes, Meg's Non-Acid wheel and tire cleaner is my go-to product for wheels. Even diluted 3:1 it pulls the browning on contact and does a really good job.
I personally think tw wheel cleaner and meguiars hot wheel tire cleaner are the same other than the color. They both do the same and are a foamy spray.
LOL you put way too much product on that wheel ;) Of course it's for the video but still. I wonder if the Meguiars Ultimate All Wheel is the retail version of their Detailers' line Iron Decon paint and wheel cleaner? If so it's an amazing product. I use it as an iron remover and love it.
I believe the results will be better if the tires are rinsed before the product is sprayed on. I saw a tutorial from another youtube channel which showed the application of tire prep products after rinsing and the results are quite better i would say.
Haven't tried the TW but the Meg's is my favorite iron remover for wheels but it doesn't do much on tires which I'm fine with as it's a wheel cleaner. I may try the TW tire cleaner but I've really been liking Shine Supply Wise Guy for tires but they don't use it on ceramic coated wheels. It pulls the browning out just like the TW does in your video. I wonder if the TW is ceramic coating safe?
I usually wear face mask n shield n gloves when doing these cleaning, their fumes can be rather toxic ,n brushing gets spray onto eyes n face. Just my 2cts of personal safety using chemicals.
Alot of detailing companies will use the exact same formula. I'm pretty sure armor wheel and tire cleaner is a slightly watered down version of the hot rims wheel and tire cleaner by meguiars.
Love all Ammo products however when it comes to plum it’s just not economical since you have to spray down a tire and do it 2-3 time dependent on how dirty brute is good but I would rather use P&S Brakebuster since it is $27 a gallon vs $20 for Plum
You're right on point. The iron remover is great for particulates, but really doesn't make a dent in regular day to day "road grime." TBH, Meguiar's hot rims wheel and tire cleaner works pretty well for the day to day grime, for an off the shelf product.
Here's the deal, the Turtle wax is MEGA strong and does not need to go on full strength. Put it 3 oz in a IK Foam Pro 2 sprayer and it works just as well and lasts 10x longer!
How does it compare to Brake Buster at that ratio?
@@jaimemendez8493 I’m going to try that next. I know BB is very popular and gets used in the IK’s a lot. I just haven’t tried it yet tbh.
@@GarrettHamilton where do you get thar pump sprayer and any products any good sites?
@@chrisspencer8815 Amazon and I pay full price
you can dilute turtle wax wheels cleaner 😮 dilute ratio please
Haven't tried Turtle Wax yet but Meguiars works great on weekly washed vehicles, especially when agitated with a brush.
From my limited experience I believe most tire cleaners work about the same, they all require scrubbing (which is fine to me) but I believe scrubbing does a lot of the cleaning itself. Limiting what a cleaner can do, and leaving the potential difference between two different cleaners very small.
I like to heavily clean my tires every 4-6 months (when I feel it needs it) mostly based on appearance, and maybe a light single pass scrub every 1-2 months just to help maintain a certain level of clean before I need to really scrub them down. I like to try new products, it's something to do, I always feel I can learn something new, but I've yet to find a product which worked noticeably better than any other I've used at any price.
Every now, and than I will detail a family members car when they ask, it's easy money, and in situations like that, regardless of what tire cleaner I'm using, be it a cheap degreaser, or $12 bottle it will take 2-3 deep scrubbing passes per tire to get them to a point where I feel is acceptable to me.
I don't much see the point in higher end tire cleaners, I don't believe they are a scam, or a waste of money I just don't believe I'm the target consumer for them. I don't believe most detailers are either, as maintaining a healthy profit margin is the point of the business (though it depends on what type of consumer you are after). You can easily spend a lot of money on products detailing a car, but you can also use cheap products and still get to that same level of clean in about the same time. These products to me seem to be targeted to consumers who don't know a ton about products and simply default to more expensive = better, which is fine, the products are not bad, I just can't personally justify them myself if I can do the same thing for 3-4 times less.
I just tried the Turtle Wax Wheel & Tire Prep for the 1st time today and it did a wonderful job. I did use a brush on the tire and two different brushes on the rims, but again they turned out amazing. I did all 4 tires and rims, Buick Encore, and only had to spray them 1x. I still have half the bottle left, so I should be able to get one more car done. Oh, I don't know why but I really liked the smell of the turtle wax wheel & tire prep. I still need to apply tire dressing, I usually use Hybrid Solutions Graphene Acrylic Tire Shine Spray Coating which leaves a really nice satin sheen that last about a month for me.
rotten eggs smell for turtle wax.. might be my tires were really dirty .. cleaning after 8 - 10 months ... fumes were coming out on a nice overcast day..i think its alkaline based.. not a big fan but gets the job done. I let it dwell wash it and it took me 2 tries to clean the wheels ... yes you're right .. i have barely any product left after cleaning all 4 tires..
The Meguiars says it delivers their most powerful cleaning performance, and that it works on road grime as well. Why wouldnt it be a cleaner?
Used the TW w&T prep and it still has a pungent smell...more so than the Meguires hot rim (pink bittle)....I never do touchless wheel cleaning...first, I use less product and second, I ensure more areas get touched w/cleaner (inner barrel).
Can't go wrong with both! Good stuff! Thanks Demo Sir!
If the wheels are really caked in then I’ll use the meguires first and rinse off then use the rapid decon and then contact wash the wheels and rinse off, otherwise if it is is medium contamination I will just use the rapid decon instead of the hybrid. Foaming is key for contact wash so will add some autoglym snow foam to the wheel as well. As for the tyres I will also use a specialist tyre cleaner because rubber is very porous and you need a good dedicated tyre cleaner like Geyon’s with a decent tyre brush at least 2 goes until it goes white. This then makes the final tyre shine really embed into the tyre and not only last longer but provides a really deep shine
Love the turtle wax! I bought it plus the iron remover/wheel cleaner and the tire foam worked fantastically! I used their new tire shine and it has been the best I've used as far as performance and durability. Excellent products for sure!!
Ya, those 3 products are a gr8 combination. 👍
I use the same stuff..Hybrid Solutions is better than alot of these products....people just don't give it a chance
Meguiars isn't too bad, but there isn't a wheel cleaner on the market which comes close to Bilt Hamber Auto Wheel.
Bilt Hamber is by FAR the most reactive iron remover, it goes dark red quicker than any other (and I have tried at least 20 others), and it also has great detergent cleaning ability too.
It's also CHEAP !
This Turtle Wax product and Koch Chemie magic wheel cleaner are top
@@JCampbell91x Nope, tried them both, and compared to Bilt Hamber auto wheel they are waaaaay behind.
@@DjNikGnashers Im going to order BH AutoWheel and test
@@JCampbell91x It has the most reactive iron remover of any wheel cleaner I have tried, it turns dark red very quickly.
But on top of that, it also has some very good cleaning chemical in too, I wouldn't use anything else now.
@@DjNikGnashers but does it clean the tyre as well as TW Hyper Foam? That stuff turns the tyre brown and deep cleans
You should have compared turtle wax to meguiar's wheel and tire cleaner. It also has a great browning effect on the tires!
Yes, Meg's Non-Acid wheel and tire cleaner is my go-to product for wheels. Even diluted 3:1 it pulls the browning on contact and does a really good job.
I personally think tw wheel cleaner and meguiars hot wheel tire cleaner are the same other than the color. They both do the same and are a foamy spray.
LOL you put way too much product on that wheel ;) Of course it's for the video but still. I wonder if the Meguiars Ultimate All Wheel is the retail version of their Detailers' line Iron Decon paint and wheel cleaner? If so it's an amazing product. I use it as an iron remover and love it.
Can you use the meguiars on paint? I use the iron clay spray is it the same thing?
Foam wins by default. You can dilute the TW Hyper Foam as well. I usually just pour the entire 23 oz bottle (1:1) into a 50 oz foam sprayer
Will either of these products be safe to use on ceramic coated wheels??
I believe the results will be better if the tires are rinsed before the product is sprayed on. I saw a tutorial from another youtube channel which showed the application of tire prep products after rinsing and the results are quite better i would say.
Like what ? A degreaser for example ? I have heard about that , using a degreaser ando then a iron remover
On the meguires, it says on the back of the bottle to apply on dry.
Haven't tried the TW but the Meg's is my favorite iron remover for wheels but it doesn't do much on tires which I'm fine with as it's a wheel cleaner. I may try the TW tire cleaner but I've really been liking Shine Supply Wise Guy for tires but they don't use it on ceramic coated wheels. It pulls the browning out just like the TW does in your video. I wonder if the TW is ceramic coating safe?
Would it be possible to mix the two products together in an IK foamer and get the best of both worlds in one??🤷🏼
Ya I don’t see a reason why you wouldn’t be able to mix them
Can you use either of these of factory pvd finished wheels?
Mate that’s a bit ridiculous the amount of spraying 😂
I know I know. I just can’t help it
@@autodetailingpodcast hahaha 🤣why is thst so funny
Hello what do you recommend for black rims?
Great video buddy good to see you back detailing tfs
Good comparison, I like gallon size products.
Foam makes the huge difference. Hybrid Solutions Hyper Foam wins
The thing about spray bottle wheel cleaners is after 2 washes the bottle is finished! Waste of money!
Both are good products
Sonax is the only thing I've ever found get anywhere near acid or brake cleaner on a rag.
Great Video!!
Half a bottle per tyre?? So 2 bottles to do the whole car? Are you sure?
I'd want them to visit my garage for this type of investment!
I usually wear face mask n shield n gloves when doing these cleaning, their fumes can be rather toxic ,n brushing gets spray onto eyes n face. Just my 2cts of personal safety using chemicals.
Thx u
For my money i'v found Turtle Wax is best for the tires and Meguiars is better for the wheels.
Alot of detailing companies will use the exact same formula. I'm pretty sure armor wheel and tire cleaner is a slightly watered down version of the hot rims wheel and tire cleaner by meguiars.
Whole bottle on one car? You've got to be kidding. How ridicioius
Buy the gallon jug of Turtle Wax and use a foam cannon!
Casi nunca utilizo wheel & tires cleaners, cuando lo utilizo es Mothers, Meguiar's ultimate y Turbo Wax products.
Foaming product wins... every time
hyperfoam is bomb
No sir, i dont like either of them.
Koch chemie magic wheel cleaner 👑
Check out ammo plum, best I've used so far.
Love all Ammo products however when it comes to plum it’s just not economical since you have to spray down a tire and do it 2-3 time dependent on how dirty brute is good but I would rather use P&S Brakebuster since it is $27 a gallon vs $20 for Plum
The Turtle Wax product is brilliant but stinks like a gents toilet
Both of these are poor value, doing 4 tyres and wheels empties the bottle? No thanks
Iron removers can definitely get expensive.
WASTE OF PRODUCT.....WAY TOO MUCH CHAMP...DONT NEED THAT MUCH
This stuff is JUNK Turtle wax take it from me don't waste you Money...