Thanks. It might not surprise you that my day-job is being a director of photography for film and video. Even when it's just a little video like this, my brain can't turn off the idea of trying to make it look pretty. ;)
Thank you so much. I have a Seiko Sarb 017 Alpenist with 6r15 movement which was losing time 2 minutes a day. Bought the tools and adjusted. It is now running approximately 1 minute 30 seconds faster now. 👍😎 Once again thank you for your valuable advice
Very informative! I had no idea it was so easy. I thought the adjustment was some type of magical, voodoo that only a veteran watch maker could adjust. Now I know. Thank you sir.
Based on how my hands look most of time (dirty and cut up), I'm not sure whether you're joking or not - but I'll take it as a compliment. I DO at least still have all my fingers. ;)
@@PraxisAdventures 🍻 For the price my local mall charged me to replace the battery in my watch ($15), I bought the kit to open any watch back, and now I get to appreciate the microscopic machine on my wrist, and zero it up. 👍
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic It's really a great feeling to be able to DIY things. I DIY'd my own house, and (in addition to saving me a ot of money), it gave me a real feeling of accomplishment and achievement that is hard to match. DIYing is great for the soul!
@@PraxisAdventures I hear you. I bought a foreclosure on 2.5 acres, 1100 sqft house, the grass was up to my shoulders when I bought it, and I used an 18" deck push mower to cut it all. Wood burner with wood to cut and split, garden, shooting range, I've learned a lot and we are better off for it. I now have two kids, who will never be bored in their formative years. 👍🇺🇸 Education ends when you choose for it to end. Learn every day.
With my snk 809 I've found that if I leave it on its back over night. It will gain between 2 and 4 seconds. And if I leave it on Its side it will lose 5ish seconds, using this method, I haven't had to reset my. Time in 6 months. And it is still spot on.
So from gaining 4s to losing 5s, you have a 9s range with around 0 deviation. The guy in the video is losing 80s per day so for situation like that he will need to adjustment the hairspring to get his 9s range back to what's acceptable.
Damn I never knew in all these years I could ever find a real man showing how to do this (still going to a professional shop to do it) as I’m a gamer and my hand tilt isn’t the most stable
Thanks you for your great DIY video. It may be safer to push the adjustment arm from the "+ & -" side instead of the side close to the moving spring.. I am afraid of damaging the moving spring if accident occurs while push the adjustment arm at the spring side.
My pleasure! Here's another tip on seiko that I just learned. Be wary of their customer "service" department. The second hand fell off my watch well within the warranty period and they essentially refused to honor the warranty because I didn't keep the original box that they'd sent the watch to me in. Watch still runs though... the second hand just lies there.
You can easily fix the second hand. Open up the caseback. pull the crown out all the way untill a little round lever pops out. hold down the lever with a small tool and pull out the crown. once the crown is pulled out the movement and dial should come out of the watch in one peice. then use tweezers to pick up the seconds hand and gently place it on the little metal stick in the center. gently apply some pressure with your finger on the seconds hand untill it fits into place. Don’t get any fingerprints or hair inside the watch. Put the watch back into the case making sure everything is aligned properly and gently reinsert the crown into its socket. Gently wriggle it in, don’t use force the crown in because that could damage the movement, it should click once it’s in. Screw down the caseback and voila Good as new🎉
Thank you very much, I really needed a video like this. I've got a Seiko 5 21 jewels, it´s the same mechanism, and goes faster about 1 minute per day, may be more but I´m afraid to nudge properly.
My kit arrives tomorrow. I plan to mark the current position with a sharpie marker, and take a picture, then make very small changes, and confirm the timing with two apps.
my skx with 7s26 movement is usually 3-5 mins slower if left a week without adjustment. Definitely will try your tip if it got more severe. Thanks for the video :)
many thanks i fixed my seiko 5 automatic which made 1982 original japan but i did multifunction timegrapher automatic watch i did opposite you said i moved down and from last nit till now it working perfect . rather than that side i moved to other side and it is in perfect working order .any way i really appreciate it
Did this in a very dumb way. My old vintage citizen was like hours ahead so I naturally wanted to adjust it. Watched a few videos, did it my watch stopped ticking completely. However I managed to slow it down to the right time and got it working again. Probably shouldn’t do this unless you are a professional
For some people it's critical to only have professionals do tasks like this for them. But for a lot of us, this is very achievable. As long as you keep things clean and be cautious with what you touch, you should be good.
Awesome. Thank you for showing this. Once you open it up does this alter or ruin the Water resistance seal? I have an SKX007J that I bought about 8 years ago that I've never had serviced and it seems to have slowed down or lose time. Not sure what the cost would be if I had a watch maker do this ? But I am open to doing it myself however not sure if this will ruin the seal since I do go SCUBA diving with it.
@@PraxisPrepper I watched your video very carefully.Thank you very much as I am very interested in watch repairing.Please stay safe.Wish you all the best and hope that you will upload more simple videos in future.
Given how this lever works, I suppose a drop (or more specifically a sudden stop at the end of a drop) might have been able to jar the lever in the "add 5 minutes per day" direction. That's a VERY small move, so maybe it's possible. If you go for the fix I demo here, you should be able to tweak it back to better time keeping. Just be sure to make very VERY small adjustments, then wait a few days to see the effect, and as you go in and out, be sure to do it in a very clean environment to as to not introduce dust into the watch. Good luck!
Great video but viewers need to be aware that there is a lot more to watch adjustment than that. Cleaning the gasket area and re-lubricating or replacing the gasket every time the watch is opened is pretty important. Don’t go trying this stuff without watching a whole lot of other videos!
I've never done those things and it's never seemed to cause any issue over the many many times that I've tweaked my watch, but I'll freely admit that I don't know everything there is to know, and in some cases, skipping steps that don't always cause a problem when skipped, might sometimes cause a problem.
dropped mine a couple times.... yeah I know.... mine stops all on its own sometimes even though it's wound. when it doesn't stop, it runs like 10 minutes late every hour. gonna see if a simple tweak to the lever will make it better before getting it serviced
Since making this video, I've actually soured a bit on the Seiko company. I never dropped my Seiko watches, but despite never taking a spill, one ater another just died. One one, the face plate glass shattered for no clear reason (while my hand was in my pocket). On another, the pendulul in the back self destructed. And on another, the second hand just fell off. Two of those were well within warranty, but Seiko refused to honor their warrany policy unless I could tell them from which distribution center each watch had shipped to me from. There was no question that I'd bought it from them through their official store on Amazon.com. They just had this weird requirement for people to have noted the return address of the original shipping box that the watch had been shipped to them in. I think the policy was just a "clever" way of voiding their warranty obligations.
If you want to avoid the seal on the back from deforming then buy a small tub of watch makers silicone grease and apply a tiny amount to the seal. The back won’t grip and drag it out of shape.
That's a pro tip! Thanks for that. I havent had any issues with the gasket bunching up or anything, but your solution sounds like it would bring that chance even down from not common to absolutely won't happen (which is a certainty probably worth the small cost of the grease). Thanks for that.
It's a nice video but you can use app on a smart phone to do it one go. There are apps that can measure the timebeat quite accuratly, even comparing with a proper timografer. So if you use that it's just open... adjust measure, adjust measure, and you can go preaty low with this particular movement, like -+ 5 seconds.
That's a good tip. I tried using one of those, but it seemed unable to hear the ticks to determine the speed. If people can get those apps to work, yeah that's a great way to go.
Good video for the beginner, however I should point out that the gasket should be replaced EVERY time the caseback is opened to ensure water resistance. This is because the gasket becomes deformed when the caseback is screwed back down, it is essentially a use once only item.
I wasn't aware that the recommendation was to replace the gasket every time. I can say that I've opened and closed my watch many many... many times and there's never been any evidence that the gasket was losing it's functionality when I have the watch in water (which I do frequently). So the recommendation may have less to do with necessity and more to do with selling more gaskets. I'm sure a new gasket is "better", but my gaskets having been reused many times haven't failed to keep out water.
I can't get my wrist wind up watch to work at all and I promise a lady that who has taken off her wrist and gave it to me and now it doesn't work anymore because i had spilled some pop on my wrist when I was just going outside and the pop has gone into it and I was very unhappy that
Pro tip: Mark the current position of the lever with a sharpie on the frame, and take a picture of it. Now you have a reference for how far you moved the lever. Remove the reference when you have it dialed in.
That sounds like a good idea - taking some sort of record of the starting position. But one thing to consider is that for the most part, the degree (literally) of change we're talking about here is SO minute that a sharpie line might be fatter than the amount of move. I only mention that to emphasise how little of an adjustment most watches will require. Mine was losing a few mins per week (maybe 5), and my adjustment was down at that level.
Ive been very disappointed with my supposedly nice Seiko that loses a couple minutes per day out of the box. Looks like the same mechanism. I might try the tool myself instead of going back to a reliable digital watch.
What I would be worried about is getting that gasket seated back correctly. `It looks like it wants to twist and bounce and squirm around and you couldn't tell if it set in place when you put the watch back together or you have it pinched where its not making a seal.
That sounds like a plausible concern. All I can offer is that I've opened this watch up a number of times to fine tune the adjustment, and also used it heavily in water and I've never had water incursion into the watch. Perhaps there's some forgiveness in the the gasket to allow for a good seal even with imperfect alignment.
Yeah, this adjustment lever is there. Problem is when watchmakers see this adjustment after the fact, they ask themselves why a regulated movement would even require it. This lever lengthens the balance spring to slow, and shortens it to speed up the movement. The watch in the video, if cleaned would be adjusted after the escapement was replaced after cleaning. Any adjustment would involve physically lengthening or shortening the balance without moving this lever. If you really like your watch, don't stick tools in it. Let somebody that knows what they're doing mess with this stuff. When you take the back off a watch that you know hasn't been serviced for quite awhile, remove the back when it's upside down (less likely for stuff to fall in the movement.
I'm not a big fan of "Let somebody that knows what they're doing mess with this stuff." In my experience, I have a lot more luck taking care of things myself as a layperson than I do hiring "professionals". There are a LOT of incompetent professionals out there... a lot of good ones out there too I'm sure. But I tend to only have a 50/50 chance of getting one of those good ones whenever I go with the "pros". "Let somebody that knows what they're doing mess with this stuff." is (IMO) a slogan created by the marketing teams of companies to try to get people to hire their high-priced services instead of taking care of things on their own. Lay people are a lot more capable than those marketing teams (and your comment) would have us know... though that said, there are a lot of incompetent laypeople out there too! ;)
@@PraxisPrepper Hi, I understand your reasoning. I am simply pointing out what works for you may be bad advice for another. It looks like you are encouraging folks to adjust a timepiece that may not be regulated properly to begin with. I suppose this could be a good thing for people that make professional repairs, you know, fixing these "home-adjustments" after the real problem surfaces. Not trying to give you a hard time. You impress me as a smart, capable guy.... But we are not all like you.
@@kurtschlarb9762 I get what you're saying. I do. And I agree that there are a lot of people out there who could mess up their watches if they try to DIY it. I just also feel that there's so much messaging in our culture telling people to NOT try. That I like to try to remind people that they're capable of doing a lot more than they think... at least many of them are. But I agree - there are plenty of human being out there who max out their brain capacity just trying to tie their shoes. I'll acknowledge that this video isn't for those people. You sound like a smart guy yourself - so don't YOU forget to DIY it a bit here and there in life. It's a good feeling!
I'm definitely not an expert on all watches, but if your watch has a similar +/- structure inside it as mine does in this video, it might be worth a try for you to do the adjustment that I demo here. But (again), I'm no expert on all watches, I'm just familiar with the one I have here.
My vintage Citizen watch is running over 1 hr too fast per day, would this fix the problem? the shop wanted $180 to fix it and my watch is worth $20.Thank you.
I don't know for sure since I don't have that watch, but the tool for opening watches seems pretty generic amzn.to/2Fg4NMC and is probably worth a try. Even if the adjustments inside your watch aren't exactly like they are in this Seiko, they're probably fully ABLE to be adjusted if you can get inside. I know that's not a clear yes or no answer, but I hope it helps.
I pushed it to the slowest limit yet my watch runs very fast. it completes a minute in just about 55 seconds. what should I do? should I touch the bottom spring as well? too scared to touch it though.
I'm not an expert on all the mechanisms in there, so I'm not able to answer that question with any authority. Sorry. Don't want to pretend to knowledge that I don't have and possibly mislead you.
Not knowing what wrong lever you moved, the best I could suggest is to move it back as best you can, but even that might be bad advice if there's some lever that only moves in one direction. Try to do some research about what you altered before you make any further changes.
My seiko 7S36 automatic mechanism runs 50-55 minutes fast a day. How can I calibrate this? Which notch should I rotate first and, top or bottom? And how much?
I'm not familiar with your watch, but once you get into it, look for a + and - symbol and it might help you to understand which way to rotate to correct the speed. Good luck.
Praxis Homesteading and Survival Skills I’ll probably rotate a notch to - direction, but the 50-55minutes is so much to compensate. In this case, I need to know which notch is for this high amount of calibration, either top or bottom
@@egehandorum7128 When I made this video I think my watch was running about 5 mins off per week, and you can see that it was an incredibly tiny adjustment. If I were in your shoes, I'd just push it maybe 1/8 of the way toward the negative and then see how it goes for the next day. Take notes so you can remember how much of a turn seemed to have how much of an impact. After a few days of various tweaks, it might be hard to recall how much turning did what on which day. I'm sure with patience you'll get it figured out!
Good luck on it. This solution works for the speed, but I've had 3 of these and they all ended up having their second hands fall off inside, and then the pendulum fall to pieces soon after. I really like the idea of these watches, but I'm personally done buying them. I hope yours works better for you than my three did.
@@chrisvassos9929 no worries. I've been known to misspeak as well. I'm always finding myself saying things like, "...after you drive past the library, take a left... and by "left" I of course mean "right"." ;)
Hey, I'm the guy that made this video (different account sign in). Yeah, I think you can improve that a bit over time. You're losing about a minute a week. That's pretty darn good, but if you play VERY GENTLY with that lever, I think you can get the time slip down to even less. Although... you could also over do it and make it so you're suddenly gaining MORE than 5 minutes a month and it may take a while to get it back to being as good as you have it now too... so I guess it depends on your personality. Are you the kind of person who keeps tweaking even when things are essentially totaly fine because the idea of "perfect" gets you excited (like I am)? Or are you happy with "totally good enough"?
@@PraxisPrepper well i am a guy who wants everything perfect. Losing minute a week is usually unnoticeable but everymonth fixing time is kinda annoying but since its mechanical watch , i should have patience. Actually i am scared to open this watch, i think i will make a mess plus my sis gave this watch to me as gift. She can be super angry on me lol. But in future if watch will lose more time than i iwll try to fix it. Your video is great and very helpful. Keep the good work up. Cheers
@@madelinedrew I totally understand that sense of apprehension. Obviously, I can't make any guarantees that if you go in , you won't mess anything up. But I CAN say, that I popped into my watch maybe a dozen times when I was tweaking it and even with popping in so many times, I never had any issues. If you DO go in, just be sure you're in a very clean environment, your hands are clean, you're not having your face float over the open watch where you might get anything from you face or nose (by breathing) into the watch back. If you DO drop something in, don't try to blow it out with your mouth. As a camera guy, we know that when people try to blow something off a lens, we damn-near always blow a little bit of spit out at the lens while we're trying (makes you think about all those birthday cakes you at after someone blew out the candles). So if you do get anything in there, a can of compressed air is best. Camera people often use these things for blowing dust off lenses too. amzn.to/3Dwuy5x And last, when you're closing the watch up, just be sure the rubber gasket ring sets back into its channel and doesn't get closed up out of alignment. But overall, just take care, take your time, and keep the environment clear and if you're anything like me, you'll be fine. Like I said, I've been in a dozen times without issue. Good luck!
I understand your hesitancy, but it's really a pretty simple job. If you have the right tool to open it up, and take care to move the level shown in this video very lightly, I think you'll be fine. As for a "demagnetizer", I don't know what that is, and I know nothing about it. But this watch uses tension, not magnetics for it's motion, so I'm not sure what something called a "demagnetizer" would do for you.
I've never seen any evidence that such a thing has ever happened, but you're right that it moves easily. Perhaps the fact that the dial has so little mass avoids it shifting during movement changes.
That's a VERY fine adjustment. Do what I do in the video, but push that lever the absolute smallest amount that you practically can move it, and see how it runs. Be prepared to slightly move it back and forth a few times as you hone the accuracy. Good luck!
It's crazy how much people charge for services these days. I often find that it's cheaper to buy literally all the tools needed to do something that hire someone to do it. I had to cut 5" holes in my foundation for some piping to pass through. Same thing, except in that case, it was actually WAY cheaper to buy all the tools, and even less hassle on my end because the company required that I prep the area in a way that was way more work than me just doing it DIY. It's crazy really. I think the only reason prices are like that is because most people have been convinced that they can't do anything themselves so are willing to pay anything for someone else to do it.
@@solstar4778 This seems more like an empty trolling vs. an attempt to help. I asked if you could point me at when it happened, where you saw it etc. because I'm wondering if I did get dirt inside or not and you're just replying with passive-aggressive phrases with all exclamation marks as punctuation and (in true troll fashion), you even were sure to use the wrong word when you meant to write "suit", but wrote "suite". Is this a serious comment? If so, please let me know and if you could, point me at where the dirt fell in. If I messed up, I'd like to get to see it so I can avoid it in the future.
@@muffemod Yeah, I'm a big fan of giving people the whole story so they can adapt and make their own good decisions if circumstances ever change - which they always tend to.
Thanks for the tip. I've been corrected a few times and corrected my own pronunciation since. I don't really watch any television or video advertising, so had only seen the name in print and never heard it spoken. Although, even the spelling suggests the correct pronunciation with the "ei" combination. So my bad here. :)
Thanks for the tip. I've been corrected a few times and corrected my own pronunciation since. I don't really watch any television or video advertising, so had only seen the name in print and never heard it spoken. Although, even the spelling suggests the correct pronunciation with the "ei" combination. So my bad here. :)
I presume you mean minimum? You'd want to push the pin towards the - sign (not the + sign). If so, then it sounds like your issue is beyond this tweak. Best luck!
Finally someone explained it properly. Thank you!
You're welcome!
I love how youre just taking a video of yourself in your house but the cinematography and colors are still absolutely beautiful.
Thanks. It might not surprise you that my day-job is being a director of photography for film and video. Even when it's just a little video like this, my brain can't turn off the idea of trying to make it look pretty. ;)
Knowing that little nudge speeds up the watch by 7 minutes per week is helpful, it can certainly help me to make a proper nudge.
Good luck. I hope it helps!
Thank you so much. I have a Seiko Sarb 017 Alpenist with 6r15 movement which was losing time 2 minutes a day. Bought the tools and adjusted. It is now running approximately 1 minute 30 seconds faster now. 👍😎 Once again thank you for your valuable advice
Thanks so much for letting me know this helped you. That's great to hear! :)
I've noticed the same thing, nobody actually shows this, good to see how it's actually done. I figured it worked the other way around.
Very informative! I had no idea it was so easy. I thought the adjustment was some type of magical, voodoo that only a veteran watch maker could adjust.
Now I know. Thank you sir.
Thanks, I've ordered the tool to fix my watch. Good demonstration.
Good luck with it! :)
Finally a vid that shows this....thank you. My Seiko has been about 6 min fast a week.
Thank you. This help me out a lot. My watch runs a little too fast. Now I can fix the problem. I just ordered those tools that you had from Amazon.
Great video. These are quite tricky and even slight movement can speed up or slow down the watch a lot.
You're right about that. VERY tiny touches are required.
Finally a clear instruction! Btw, you have beautiful taken care of hands 😍
Based on how my hands look most of time (dirty and cut up), I'm not sure whether you're joking or not - but I'll take it as a compliment. I DO at least still have all my fingers. ;)
I have a Seiko 5 not running accurately and am grateful for a very helpful and easy to see video. Thankx.
No worries. I'm glad this video helped you out!
Thank you very much for your detailed and accurate DIY video.
Same watch, but I lose 2m/day. The watch kit arrives today, and I will be regulating my watch after viewing your video. Thanks for your time!
It's very much my pleasure to be able to share the technique with you. Best luck!
@@PraxisAdventures 🍻
For the price my local mall charged me to replace the battery in my watch ($15), I bought the kit to open any watch back, and now I get to appreciate the microscopic machine on my wrist, and zero it up. 👍
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic It's really a great feeling to be able to DIY things. I DIY'd my own house, and (in addition to saving me a ot of money), it gave me a real feeling of accomplishment and achievement that is hard to match. DIYing is great for the soul!
@@PraxisAdventures I hear you. I bought a foreclosure on 2.5 acres, 1100 sqft house, the grass was up to my shoulders when I bought it, and I used an 18" deck push mower to cut it all. Wood burner with wood to cut and split, garden, shooting range, I've learned a lot and we are better off for it. I now have two kids, who will never be bored in their formative years. 👍🇺🇸 Education ends when you choose for it to end. Learn every day.
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic The world needs more people like you OTD! Awesome work!
Smoking now I know! Thanks! My watch is not a Seiko but it had a very similar system!
With my snk 809 I've found that if I leave it on its back over night. It will gain between 2 and 4 seconds. And if I leave it on Its side it will lose 5ish seconds, using this method, I haven't had to reset my. Time in 6 months. And it is still spot on.
It sounds like you have developed a cool work around to doing this adjustment. Thx for sharing!
That's pretty ingenious.
So from gaining 4s to losing 5s, you have a 9s range with around 0 deviation.
The guy in the video is losing 80s per day so for situation like that he will need to adjustment the hairspring to get his 9s range back to what's acceptable.
Damn I never knew in all these years I could ever find a real man showing how to do this (still going to a professional shop to do it) as I’m a gamer and my hand tilt isn’t the most stable
Thank you very much! Cheers from Indonesia.
You're welcome! :)
Thank you for the explanation. Now my late grandfather’s watch can work fine
Thanks for posting. Ben Franklin would be pleased.
Lmfao that caption about the little nudge. I was surprised how little I had to touch mine to get it just right or at least far less wrong.
Thanks for the video, it's really very informative & helpful
I'm glad you found it useful. Good luck doing the fix for yourself!
Thanks you for your great DIY video. It may be safer to push the adjustment arm from the "+ & -" side instead of the side close to the moving spring.. I am afraid of damaging the moving spring if accident occurs while push the adjustment arm at the spring side.
Thank you. You are one of the best.
Thanks from Spain! Graciasss!!!
De nadaaaaaa!!! ;)
Thank you, been thinking of doing that but this helps a lot !!
Thanks a million times! My watch was going 5 mins faster per day. Now it's only losing 2 - 5 seconds per day. Thanks heaps! Cheers! :)
My pleasure! Here's another tip on seiko that I just learned. Be wary of their customer "service" department. The second hand fell off my watch well within the warranty period and they essentially refused to honor the warranty because I didn't keep the original box that they'd sent the watch to me in. Watch still runs though... the second hand just lies there.
You can easily fix the second hand.
Open up the caseback.
pull the crown out all the way untill a little round lever pops out.
hold down the lever with a small tool and pull out the crown.
once the crown is pulled out the movement and dial should come out of the watch in one peice.
then use tweezers to pick up the seconds hand and gently place it on the little metal stick in the center.
gently apply some pressure with your finger on the seconds hand untill it fits into place.
Don’t get any fingerprints or hair inside the watch.
Put the watch back into the case making sure everything is aligned properly and gently reinsert the crown into its socket.
Gently wriggle it in, don’t use force the crown in because that could damage the movement, it should click once it’s in.
Screw down the caseback and voila
Good as new🎉
Thank you, good video. Did it with my seiko. Cheers
Thank you very much, I really needed a video like this. I've got a Seiko 5 21 jewels, it´s the same mechanism, and goes faster about 1 minute per day, may be more but I´m afraid to nudge properly.
That's a tiny TINY nudge. Take it slow - and don't worry, if you overshoot it, you can always nudge back. Good luck!
My kit arrives tomorrow. I plan to mark the current position with a sharpie marker, and take a picture, then make very small changes, and confirm the timing with two apps.
my skx with 7s26 movement is usually 3-5 mins slower if left a week without adjustment. Definitely will try your tip if it got more severe. Thanks for the video :)
EXCELLENT EXPLANATION
many thanks i fixed my seiko 5 automatic which made 1982 original japan but i did multifunction timegrapher automatic watch i did opposite you said i moved down and from last nit till now it working perfect . rather than that side i moved to other side and it is in perfect working order .any way i really appreciate it
Great vid! Have the same watch an problem.
Did this in a very dumb way. My old vintage citizen was like hours ahead so I naturally wanted to adjust it. Watched a few videos, did it my watch stopped ticking completely. However I managed to slow it down to the right time and got it working again. Probably shouldn’t do this unless you are a professional
For some people it's critical to only have professionals do tasks like this for them. But for a lot of us, this is very achievable. As long as you keep things clean and be cautious with what you touch, you should be good.
Awesome. Thank you for showing this. Once you open it up does this alter or ruin the Water resistance seal? I have an SKX007J that I bought about 8 years ago that I've never had serviced and it seems to have slowed down or lose time. Not sure what the cost would be if I had a watch maker do this ? But I am open to doing it myself however not sure if this will ruin the seal since I do go SCUBA diving with it.
Excellent video.
Thank you.
Very helpful presentation.Thank you.
You're welcome. It's pretty easy to do if you try it out.
@@PraxisPrepper I watched your video very carefully.Thank you very much as I am very interested in watch repairing.Please stay safe.Wish you all the best and hope that you will upload more simple videos in future.
Cool thanks for sharing some knowledge
Great video. My Seiko 5 is gaining 20 minutes per day. Could it have been moved by dropping the watch?
Given how this lever works, I suppose a drop (or more specifically a sudden stop at the end of a drop) might have been able to jar the lever in the "add 5 minutes per day" direction. That's a VERY small move, so maybe it's possible. If you go for the fix I demo here, you should be able to tweak it back to better time keeping. Just be sure to make very VERY small adjustments, then wait a few days to see the effect, and as you go in and out, be sure to do it in a very clean environment to as to not introduce dust into the watch. Good luck!
Great video but viewers need to be aware that there is a lot more to watch adjustment than that. Cleaning the gasket area and re-lubricating or replacing the gasket every time the watch is opened is pretty important. Don’t go trying this stuff without watching a whole lot of other videos!
I've never done those things and it's never seemed to cause any issue over the many many times that I've tweaked my watch, but I'll freely admit that I don't know everything there is to know, and in some cases, skipping steps that don't always cause a problem when skipped, might sometimes cause a problem.
Excellent and helpful!!
Ayeee I have the very same SNK in that colorway. Thanks for the vid, mine is running about 2 min fast per day.
Mine has 3 and a half min per hour :)) No kidding! Will try to adjust it ! But I’m quite sure it will ended up on watch service :)
dropped mine a couple times.... yeah I know.... mine stops all on its own sometimes even though it's wound. when it doesn't stop, it runs like 10 minutes late every hour. gonna see if a simple tweak to the lever will make it better before getting it serviced
Since making this video, I've actually soured a bit on the Seiko company. I never dropped my Seiko watches, but despite never taking a spill, one ater another just died. One one, the face plate glass shattered for no clear reason (while my hand was in my pocket). On another, the pendulul in the back self destructed. And on another, the second hand just fell off. Two of those were well within warranty, but Seiko refused to honor their warrany policy unless I could tell them from which distribution center each watch had shipped to me from. There was no question that I'd bought it from them through their official store on Amazon.com. They just had this weird requirement for people to have noted the return address of the original shipping box that the watch had been shipped to them in. I think the policy was just a "clever" way of voiding their warranty obligations.
If you want to avoid the seal on the back from deforming then buy a small tub of watch makers silicone grease and apply a tiny amount to the seal. The back won’t grip and drag it out of shape.
That's a pro tip! Thanks for that. I havent had any issues with the gasket bunching up or anything, but your solution sounds like it would bring that chance even down from not common to absolutely won't happen (which is a certainty probably worth the small cost of the grease). Thanks for that.
Thank you for good VDO Counterclockwise, slower, right?
I double checked the video to be sure and yes, counter clockwise slows it down. Good luck! :)
thank you for this
Terimakasih Bro tutorialnya
I believe the "adjustment" is called "regulation".
Thank you!
Great Video!
Thanks Demitrius! And thanks for writing the comment. As I understand it, leaving comments helps the video to be seen by more people. :)
What does the other adjustment lever adjust?
Sorry for the delay in replying to you. I'm not sure about any levers aside from the one I'm discussing here.
It's a nice video but you can use app on a smart phone to do it one go. There are apps that can measure the timebeat quite accuratly, even comparing with a proper timografer.
So if you use that it's just open... adjust measure, adjust measure, and you can go preaty low with this particular movement, like -+ 5 seconds.
That's a good tip. I tried using one of those, but it seemed unable to hear the ticks to determine the speed. If people can get those apps to work, yeah that's a great way to go.
@@PraxisAdventures yes it depends a lot of the microphone of your phone as surrounding sound, but it surely works
Cool. I'm glad it worked for you. :)@@84Justino
Good video for the beginner, however I should point out that the gasket should be replaced EVERY time the caseback is opened to ensure water resistance. This is because the gasket becomes deformed when the caseback is screwed back down, it is essentially a use once only item.
I wasn't aware that the recommendation was to replace the gasket every time. I can say that I've opened and closed my watch many many... many times and there's never been any evidence that the gasket was losing it's functionality when I have the watch in water (which I do frequently). So the recommendation may have less to do with necessity and more to do with selling more gaskets. I'm sure a new gasket is "better", but my gaskets having been reused many times haven't failed to keep out water.
Very good
This does regulate (proper term for it) the watch but if it loses that much time, it's in dire need of a service.
But isn't the technique demo'd the service that the watch needs? This technique fixed the issue my watch was having anyhow.
Dude thank you great video and awesome macro shooting 10/10
I'm glad it was helpful!
I can't get my wrist wind up watch to work at all and I promise a lady that who has taken off her wrist and gave it to me and now it doesn't work anymore because i had spilled some pop on my wrist when I was just going outside and the pop has gone into it and I was very unhappy that
Pro tip:
Mark the current position of the lever with a sharpie on the frame, and take a picture of it. Now you have a reference for how far you moved the lever. Remove the reference when you have it dialed in.
That sounds like a good idea - taking some sort of record of the starting position. But one thing to consider is that for the most part, the degree (literally) of change we're talking about here is SO minute that a sharpie line might be fatter than the amount of move. I only mention that to emphasise how little of an adjustment most watches will require. Mine was losing a few mins per week (maybe 5), and my adjustment was down at that level.
@@PraxisAdventures Sure, but for someone like me, where I am losing 3 minutes a day, the change might be bigger.
@Riki P. I won't say it was the most detailed, expansive video, but it got me in the right direction. My watch is now -0.4/day.
I will try this...
So nice.
Ive been very disappointed with my supposedly nice Seiko that loses a couple minutes per day out of the box. Looks like the same mechanism. I might try the tool myself instead of going back to a reliable digital watch.
Thanks a lot
Most welcome. :)
I moved the pin below. What is that pin for?
It is for adjusting beat error (symmetry of left- and right swings). If you mess it up you need a timegrapher to readjust it.
What I would be worried about is getting that gasket seated back correctly. `It looks like it wants to twist and bounce and squirm around and you couldn't tell if it set in place when you put the watch back together or you have it pinched where its not making a seal.
That sounds like a plausible concern. All I can offer is that I've opened this watch up a number of times to fine tune the adjustment, and also used it heavily in water and I've never had water incursion into the watch. Perhaps there's some forgiveness in the the gasket to allow for a good seal even with imperfect alignment.
Thank you
You're welcome.
Yeah, this adjustment lever is there. Problem is when watchmakers see this adjustment after the fact, they ask themselves why a regulated movement would even require it. This lever lengthens the balance spring to slow, and shortens it to speed up the movement. The watch in the video, if cleaned would be adjusted after the escapement was replaced after cleaning. Any adjustment would involve physically lengthening or shortening the balance without moving this lever.
If you really like your watch, don't stick tools in it. Let somebody that knows what they're doing mess with this stuff.
When you take the back off a watch that you know hasn't been serviced for quite awhile, remove the back when it's upside down (less likely for stuff to fall in the movement.
I'm not a big fan of "Let somebody that knows what they're doing mess with this stuff." In my experience, I have a lot more luck taking care of things myself as a layperson than I do hiring "professionals". There are a LOT of incompetent professionals out there... a lot of good ones out there too I'm sure. But I tend to only have a 50/50 chance of getting one of those good ones whenever I go with the "pros".
"Let somebody that knows what they're doing mess with this stuff." is (IMO) a slogan created by the marketing teams of companies to try to get people to hire their high-priced services instead of taking care of things on their own. Lay people are a lot more capable than those marketing teams (and your comment) would have us know... though that said, there are a lot of incompetent laypeople out there too! ;)
@@PraxisPrepper
Hi, I understand your reasoning. I am simply pointing out what works for you may be bad advice for another. It looks like you are encouraging folks to adjust a timepiece that may not be regulated properly to begin with.
I suppose this could be a good thing for people that make professional repairs, you know, fixing these "home-adjustments" after the real problem surfaces.
Not trying to give you a hard time. You impress me as a smart, capable guy....
But we are not all like you.
@@kurtschlarb9762 I get what you're saying. I do. And I agree that there are a lot of people out there who could mess up their watches if they try to DIY it. I just also feel that there's so much messaging in our culture telling people to NOT try. That I like to try to remind people that they're capable of doing a lot more than they think... at least many of them are. But I agree - there are plenty of human being out there who max out their brain capacity just trying to tie their shoes. I'll acknowledge that this video isn't for those people.
You sound like a smart guy yourself - so don't YOU forget to DIY it a bit here and there in life. It's a good feeling!
@@PraxisPrepper
Well said. You take care now.
good morning sir my seiko wach not autimatic its manually.but it wiil 1 hours 20 munut fast in 24 hours... what do....plese
I'm definitely not an expert on all watches, but if your watch has a similar +/- structure inside it as mine does in this video, it might be worth a try for you to do the adjustment that I demo here. But (again), I'm no expert on all watches, I'm just familiar with the one I have here.
My vintage Citizen watch is running over 1 hr too fast per day, would this fix the problem? the shop wanted $180 to fix it and my watch is worth $20.Thank you.
I don't know for sure since I don't have that watch, but the tool for opening watches seems pretty generic amzn.to/2Fg4NMC and is probably worth a try. Even if the adjustments inside your watch aren't exactly like they are in this Seiko, they're probably fully ABLE to be adjusted if you can get inside. I know that's not a clear yes or no answer, but I hope it helps.
@@PraxisPrepper
I will give it a try. Thank you for your reply.
I pushed it to the slowest limit yet my watch runs very fast. it completes a minute in just about 55 seconds. what should I do? should I touch the bottom spring as well? too scared to touch it though.
be carefull it might explode
Very fast rates are often a sign of magnetisation.
I hate to ask this question but what is the other tab for?
I'm not an expert on all the mechanisms in there, so I'm not able to answer that question with any authority. Sorry. Don't want to pretend to knowledge that I don't have and possibly mislead you.
The other lever adjusts the beat error.But you need a time grapher to do that.
@@mrd7051Got it - thx!
Now any advice on what to do if I screwed up on moved the wrong lever?
Not knowing what wrong lever you moved, the best I could suggest is to move it back as best you can, but even that might be bad advice if there's some lever that only moves in one direction. Try to do some research about what you altered before you make any further changes.
Location pls.
My seiko 7S36 automatic mechanism runs 50-55 minutes fast a day. How can I calibrate this? Which notch should I rotate first and, top or bottom? And how much?
I'm not familiar with your watch, but once you get into it, look for a + and - symbol and it might help you to understand which way to rotate to correct the speed. Good luck.
Praxis Homesteading and Survival Skills I’ll probably rotate a notch to - direction, but the 50-55minutes is so much to compensate. In this case, I need to know which notch is for this high amount of calibration, either top or bottom
@@egehandorum7128 When I made this video I think my watch was running about 5 mins off per week, and you can see that it was an incredibly tiny adjustment. If I were in your shoes, I'd just push it maybe 1/8 of the way toward the negative and then see how it goes for the next day. Take notes so you can remember how much of a turn seemed to have how much of an impact. After a few days of various tweaks, it might be hard to recall how much turning did what on which day. I'm sure with patience you'll get it figured out!
Praxis Homesteading and Survival Skills that makes sense and sounds great. I’ll try this, thanks for your help
your watch is probably magnetized, you need to demagnetize it
Finally after 5 and half years i got the solution.. lol i thought i have wasted 190$ on that watch ⌚😅
Good luck on it. This solution works for the speed, but I've had 3 of these and they all ended up having their second hands fall off inside, and then the pendulum fall to pieces soon after. I really like the idea of these watches, but I'm personally done buying them. I hope yours works better for you than my three did.
Nice!
Love this, thanks!
Cover the case back with electrical tape so the back doesn’t get scratched accidentally when removing it. Great video.
You moved it anticlockwise towards -ve to speed it up. I would have thought you’d move it clockwise towards +ve to increase speed. ??
I'm not sure how the video gave the impression that you took away from it. But you're correct. Towards + speeds it up. Towards - slows it down.
@@PraxisPrepper I may have miss interpreted it. Thanks for clarifying. Great video 👍👍
@@chrisvassos9929 no worries. I've been known to misspeak as well. I'm always finding myself saying things like, "...after you drive past the library, take a left... and by "left" I of course mean "right"." ;)
My seiko loses 5 minutes in a month. So i make it fast or its normal?
Hey, I'm the guy that made this video (different account sign in). Yeah, I think you can improve that a bit over time. You're losing about a minute a week. That's pretty darn good, but if you play VERY GENTLY with that lever, I think you can get the time slip down to even less. Although... you could also over do it and make it so you're suddenly gaining MORE than 5 minutes a month and it may take a while to get it back to being as good as you have it now too... so I guess it depends on your personality. Are you the kind of person who keeps tweaking even when things are essentially totaly fine because the idea of "perfect" gets you excited (like I am)? Or are you happy with "totally good enough"?
@@PraxisPrepper well i am a guy who wants everything perfect. Losing minute a week is usually unnoticeable but everymonth fixing time is kinda annoying but since its mechanical watch , i should have patience. Actually i am scared to open this watch, i think i will make a mess plus my sis gave this watch to me as gift. She can be super angry on me lol. But in future if watch will lose more time than i iwll try to fix it. Your video is great and very helpful. Keep the good work up. Cheers
@@madelinedrew I totally understand that sense of apprehension. Obviously, I can't make any guarantees that if you go in , you won't mess anything up. But I CAN say, that I popped into my watch maybe a dozen times when I was tweaking it and even with popping in so many times, I never had any issues.
If you DO go in, just be sure you're in a very clean environment, your hands are clean, you're not having your face float over the open watch where you might get anything from you face or nose (by breathing) into the watch back. If you DO drop something in, don't try to blow it out with your mouth. As a camera guy, we know that when people try to blow something off a lens, we damn-near always blow a little bit of spit out at the lens while we're trying (makes you think about all those birthday cakes you at after someone blew out the candles). So if you do get anything in there, a can of compressed air is best. Camera people often use these things for blowing dust off lenses too. amzn.to/3Dwuy5x
And last, when you're closing the watch up, just be sure the rubber gasket ring sets back into its channel and doesn't get closed up out of alignment.
But overall, just take care, take your time, and keep the environment clear and if you're anything like me, you'll be fine. Like I said, I've been in a dozen times without issue. Good luck!
@@PraxisAdventures so far , this month , still 2 days left , my watch has lost 7 minutes.
I have a watch I don’t wanna open incase i fk it up is there no other way someone said to Demagnetizer
I understand your hesitancy, but it's really a pretty simple job. If you have the right tool to open it up, and take care to move the level shown in this video very lightly, I think you'll be fine. As for a "demagnetizer", I don't know what that is, and I know nothing about it. But this watch uses tension, not magnetics for it's motion, so I'm not sure what something called a "demagnetizer" would do for you.
it looks like some kind of shock can move that part, it moved so easily
I've never seen any evidence that such a thing has ever happened, but you're right that it moves easily. Perhaps the fact that the dial has so little mass avoids it shifting during movement changes.
"Time will keep accelerating..!"
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I was told the local watch repair place doesn't care about customer service because most of their business is online. Now I don't need them. 🙂
It's a nice feeling when you find out that don't need someone who isn't treating you very well. :)
Neat
My watch is 1 minute week how to adjust
That's a VERY fine adjustment. Do what I do in the video, but push that lever the absolute smallest amount that you practically can move it, and see how it runs. Be prepared to slightly move it back and forth a few times as you hone the accuracy. Good luck!
@@PraxisPrepper thanks
I was just quoted $140 to have this done.
It's crazy how much people charge for services these days. I often find that it's cheaper to buy literally all the tools needed to do something that hire someone to do it. I had to cut 5" holes in my foundation for some piping to pass through. Same thing, except in that case, it was actually WAY cheaper to buy all the tools, and even less hassle on my end because the company required that I prep the area in a way that was way more work than me just doing it DIY. It's crazy really. I think the only reason prices are like that is because most people have been convinced that they can't do anything themselves so are willing to pay anything for someone else to do it.
@@PraxisAdventures That's what I did. 😇
When you opened the back dirt fell into the running works 😢👎🏻
Do you have a frame number where you see this happening? I don't see it. Also the watch never seemed to suffer from any issues related to this fix.
@@PraxisPrepper -suite yourself! When the watch case was opened !
@@solstar4778 This seems more like an empty trolling vs. an attempt to help. I asked if you could point me at when it happened, where you saw it etc. because I'm wondering if I did get dirt inside or not and you're just replying with passive-aggressive phrases with all exclamation marks as punctuation and (in true troll fashion), you even were sure to use the wrong word when you meant to write "suit", but wrote "suite".
Is this a serious comment? If so, please let me know and if you could, point me at where the dirt fell in. If I messed up, I'd like to get to see it so I can avoid it in the future.
Mine is 4min per day fast. I'll try it later
I own a Seiko 7005 (50 years old), ans goes slow 45 sec a week
Video starts at 4:00
Only for those who are only her because they don't know the difference between a + sign and a - sign.
@@PraxisPrepper 🤣🤣🤣
@@muffemod Yeah, I'm a big fan of giving people the whole story so they can adapt and make their own good decisions if circumstances ever change - which they always tend to.
Dude!
My new Seiko is slow by 5 seconds per day which is only 1/2 minute per week. I think I'll just leave it alone for now.
your math is off 😂
@@james6yearsago599 i rounded you retard
@@scubaseppy but 5 seconds a day is 35 seconds that’s a big difference than 1-2 minutes 😭
@@james6yearsago599 one half! You smooth brain.
@@scubaseppy nah 😂
My watch runs very slow, about 6 minutes every day. Does anyone know if that’s still adjustable?
R1Willem OG course it’s adjustable, just send it back to the original manufacturer and they’ll adjust it for you.
Since you have a Seiko, you should know how the Japanese correctly pronounce it, like Say-Ko, not See-ko. どういたしまして
Thanks for the tip. I've been corrected a few times and corrected my own pronunciation since. I don't really watch any television or video advertising, so had only seen the name in print and never heard it spoken. Although, even the spelling suggests the correct pronunciation with the "ei" combination. So my bad here. :)
Thanks for the tip. I've been corrected a few times and corrected my own pronunciation since. I don't really watch any television or video advertising, so had only seen the name in print and never heard it spoken. Although, even the spelling suggests the correct pronunciation with the "ei" combination. So my bad here. :)
Mine is pushed to maximum 😂 watch still runs 5 minutes fast every 12 hours , guess it’s time for service
I presume you mean minimum? You'd want to push the pin towards the - sign (not the + sign). If so, then it sounds like your issue is beyond this tweak. Best luck!
Hope it works with vintage Russian watches.
hii im from malaysia
Well done
ساعت من سیکو هست اما خرااااابه بلد نیستم درست کنمش
Mine loses 5 minutes per hour...
Go get it serviced mate.
@@rhazes84 sold it and got a quartz instead...
7 min per week is 420 sec / 7 days. A min per day or + 60 spd. Minus 300 sec / 7 = - 43 spd. Net result + 17 spd. Still not great.
I agree that a watch with a speed setting that's not right isn't great. But the only thing that really matters is whether it's fixable - which it is.