Ed Sheeran performs in court during copyright infringement trial

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  • Опубліковано 30 кві 2023
  • Sheeran briefly played his guitar as part of his testimony, CBS2's Dave Carlin reports.

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  • @Pfromm007
    @Pfromm007 8 місяців тому +14

    Suing someone over the same chord progression is like suing someone over the same sentence structure.

  • @cuevaspedrocarrillo
    @cuevaspedrocarrillo Рік тому +38

    Never even thought of the song " Let's get it On" when listening to Ed's song in the past. I hope their are some musicologist on the jury.

  • @Milney10
    @Milney10 Рік тому +38

    The fundamentals of music will always cause these types of chance similarities. This lawsuit is shameful grab for cash. What a disgrace!!

  • @katrinamilam1328
    @katrinamilam1328 Рік тому +29

    This is such BS!! Ed is the first guy to give writing credits to people who didn't have much to do with a song. He's one of the MOST honest singers out there. Plus, look at the sheer number of songs he has out. He's no one hit wonder who needs to steel cord progressions from old songs to make his music!!

  • @sashawalker4492
    @sashawalker4492 Рік тому +61

    ‪Music wasn't meant to be scientifically analyzed for lawsuits. Not in my opinion. It is meant to be felt, expressed and appreciated for its uniqueness.
    I have been told that I look at this from an emotional viewpoint, rather than a logic & law perspective. That may be so. But music is an emotional thing. This was my best friend's wedding song, and I am sure they aren't the only ones. People, who didn't even create "Let's Get It On" themselves. I don't think it's right. They don't seem to care who they hurt in the process at all. People are saying to artists, “come up with totally brand-new music with no similarities to others”. I say, why is no one telling those provoking this lawsuit to do the same? This doesn't enhance the legacy of music other artists leave behind when they pass on. It destroys it.
    Music analysis for copyright and law just destroys music in my opinion. Eventually, it will be so hard to create anything new… nobody will want to.
    As they keep inputting more and more songs into their sample's, it will be harder and harder for the human brain to create anything that doesn't somehow resemble another artist's work. Eventually, there will be none. And people will have no one to blame but themselves for greed, a sense of superiority and human dictation of “rightness”.
    It's coming. Our technology and computers will cancel all things we do as people. Replacing all kinds of workers in different sectors, and here we see it destroying the ability to create art. We have AI technology writing people's papers for them. I think it's only a matter of time.
    We'll see. Personally, I don't like this.

  • @buggiemara4902
    @buggiemara4902 Рік тому +11

    Marvin Gaye's family likes to sue people for money. That says a lot about this case.

    • @ForeverSweetx3
      @ForeverSweetx3 Рік тому +1

      The sad part is the family is ruining the legacy of Marvin Gaye. His name is now tied to lawsuits and accusations made by his family.

  • @pappadudat
    @pappadudat Рік тому +5

    Townsend family petty for this.

  • @caisycg1607
    @caisycg1607 Рік тому +16

    Completely different songs. What an absurd lawsuit! It's obviously motivated by greed and ignorance.

    • @shaunkellison1761
      @shaunkellison1761 Рік тому +1

      Its actually motivated by the worlds most complex AI computer saying that over %60 of the song is identical to the classic. This was submitted by the plaintiff... So...

    • @shyysutb
      @shyysutb Рік тому +4

      @@shaunkellison1761 so… because that 60% he is proved to be stealing?

    • @shaunkellison1761
      @shaunkellison1761 Рік тому

      @@shyysutb Yes. Scientific computer evidence. Same thing they base DNA cases off of.

    • @shaunkellison1761
      @shaunkellison1761 Рік тому

      @@shyysutb CBC did an interview with Biebers Producers and came up with the same result on camera. ua-cam.com/video/IncFMWWB9QU/v-deo.html This doesn't look good for ED

    • @bruhfade4047
      @bruhfade4047 Рік тому

      @@shaunkellison1761 he wins the case legally and btw i've seen u 3rd times rn replying and try to convince ppl that ed is guilty with this AI bs what's wrong with you?

  • @sherifayoussef1944
    @sherifayoussef1944 Рік тому +9

    It's sooooooooo ridiculous
    Leave the man alone

  • @abwun
    @abwun Рік тому +7

    i can hear it, but many songs sound similar, if you really pay attention. I hope Chris Stapleton got the rights from Etta James (I'd Rather Go Blind), when he made Tennessee Whiskey. I won't even get started about Bruno Mars' music.

  • @miniclaws6231
    @miniclaws6231 Рік тому +7

    incredibly shameful cashgrab attempt thinking out loud is 8 years old and not once have i thought u know what this reminds me of lets get it on 🤣townsend family must be running low on money

  • @daezjn
    @daezjn Рік тому +3

    I wish this was live on Law & Crime channel ...

  • @masterwolfofthesea4817
    @masterwolfofthesea4817 Рік тому +14

    These songs sound nothing alike

    • @aliaswizard6963
      @aliaswizard6963 Рік тому

      They are very similar.I'm not blaming the young man maybe the person who wrote the song for him but it does sound like Marvin Gaye

  • @gilbertlay5358
    @gilbertlay5358 Рік тому +6

    THE ANTICOPYRIGHT KING IS BACK: I once billed myself as the Anti-Copyright King. Well only in a few online posts. The point being that I would utter sayings like "God Bless the DVD Pirates fro being frontline warriors in a war against copyright tyranny. And now is the time to get back in that mode! Copyright Laws have been Bi-Partisan for decades. And when this pandemic lifts people will need a direction to take to rebuild their lives. Reducing copyright protection to a simple 25 years only is the right thing to do. After all creativity is not limitless, boundless, infinite nor eternal. Science can easily prove that art & music is limited. I would love to have a TV show called "Prove your art or music is genuinely unique" Have a team of pro's who would be given an amount of time to debunk someone's creation as having some degree of infringement. It's why there are so many copyright infringement cases in the courts- there just isn't an infinite number to good creation. Sure you can convolute and add 'raking fingernails across a chalkboard as art, but it won't sell as music people love to hear.' Perhaps Biden will do the right Socialist Thing and reverse copyright laws that protect big businesses like Disney that made their money on squashing the little artists. Tin Pan Alley where poor artists sold their copyrights to buy enough food for a week is what it comes down too. Copyright is a con job in the hands of men like Harvey Weinstein. We saw how much respect he has for fellow human beings in his rape trials. 25 Years for all arts and that would sure open the market up for new businesses to rise from the ashes of this pandemic!!!
    Part 2: The arts have been pandered here in USA like the Morlocks pandered to the Eloi in HG Wells "The Time Machine." The people are tracked, brainwashed by repetitious TV & film with utter nonsense and cheap humor. All the while the rich who are in reality not any different than the rest of humanity strum their guitars & keyboards or get hired to be a superstar actor simply for their natural beauty. We are told they are true geniuses of creativity. When all the while they are not! And the only thing that makes them richer and better off is Copyright Laws. The Sony Bono Copyright Extension was only another chain in the link of economic slavery. That the rich can continue their Tin Pan Alley shenanigans and rape the workers of art that should be shared by all is a tragedy. How is it bi-partisan? Because Unions see it far easier to fight the rich to employee union workers rather than do the ultimate sacrifice of allowing all the people an opportunity to prosper. And of course the Republican Capitalists are quite happy to go along for the ride. Do the right thing for "Change." to be for all the people.

  • @monogee
    @monogee Рік тому +2

    @1:25, Oh Snap, Jasmine Guy. LOL

  • @iMatti00
    @iMatti00 Рік тому +2

    🖼🎼 ~ I don’t know anything about music but an example that came to my mind is a painting. If one person paints a landscape can you copyright that picture for every other landscape created around the world? Or same thing with a portrait of a human. But that’s take it a step further, if you use the color green in your painting of a person based on their clothes, can nobody else use the color green in any type of painting even on a completely different subject? Just because you use green because someone was wearing a green coat, now nobody else can paint a painting of a greenhouse or the grass?
    And I say this because, As I remember, there’s only 12 individual notes that are mixed up in different orders to make songs. Well there’s not many more than 12 individual colors.h

  • @gamingclipz7309
    @gamingclipz7309 Рік тому +4

    They sound nothing alike… as ed pointed out most songs can be done with only 4 cords

  • @drummerofblackmarketcurren6186

    Dude its so clearly different lol Marvin Gaye wouldnt be ok with them trashing his namesake like this for cash

  • @manguera9
    @manguera9 Рік тому +1

    the rule and the law is ,if you copied 8 bars of original melody , that is a concern for a lawsuit, but for the chord patern ? there is not, most pop songs are based in the same chord pattern, for example ..Levitating (dua lipa) looks similar to ""get down on it" (Kool and the gang) Dua Lipa song has almost the same chord pattern,and almost the same melody pattern, but not the same notes...this Ed sheeran's trial ,is a shame for the family of MarvinGaye

  • @kayjo6843
    @kayjo6843 Рік тому +24

    It sounds nothing alike!!!

    • @shaunkellison1761
      @shaunkellison1761 Рік тому +5

      Thats not Chat GPT said lol. The most complex computer on earth says that more than %60 of the song is IDENTICAL to the Marvin song. They used it as evidence in court

    • @djfacts9770
      @djfacts9770 Рік тому +1

      Lol your completely not being honest or you just don't have a good ear or regular ear for music. The melody in the background is very strikingly similar & ed has to write & stay on wave with that beat. Given that he performed let's get it on before on stage he is very familiar with the way Marvin approached the music. Which is why it sounds similar because Marvin showed Ed how to ride that beat. Bottom line that is showing homage or copying for benefit

    • @kayjo6843
      @kayjo6843 Рік тому

      @@djfacts9770 I don't think of Marvin Gaye let's get it on when I listen to the song. It's just another black person trying to get some kind of restitution that they don't deserve. Jay z uses other people's beats and they didn't sue him. That says a lot about what that greedy woman is about. It's disgusting and she will lose.

    • @shaunkellison1761
      @shaunkellison1761 Рік тому

      CBC did an interview with Biebers producer and he ran it though the same program I did and got the same result ua-cam.com/video/IncFMWWB9QU/v-deo.html

    • @shyysutb
      @shyysutb Рік тому +1

      welp he just won so go home😍

  • @saintkupo
    @saintkupo Рік тому +1

    People in this comment section are delusional. Yes, the music backing does sound nearly identical but that super basic 4 chord progression cannot be copyrighted. The lawsuit is really about lyrics and the melody of those lyrics but uninformed people keep getting stuck on the back track.

  • @TheDeathmail
    @TheDeathmail 7 місяців тому

    I love that it's usually not the actual artists that do the sueing...

  • @garykentigian3675
    @garykentigian3675 Рік тому +2

    Race relations are at an all time low. Thanks Crump

  • @IIIIALBYIIII
    @IIIIALBYIIII Рік тому +3

    Normal day for Drake

  • @Bishe1997
    @Bishe1997 Рік тому +11

    ED is talented and innocent,sound doesn’t like anything to let get it on ,#stand with ED

    • @aliaswizard6963
      @aliaswizard6963 Рік тому

      Sorry but it does. So now he's in court.

    • @Bishe1997
      @Bishe1997 Рік тому

      @@aliaswizard6963 this is racism black peoples are trying to damage white . Stand with ED at this time.

    • @johnd.zephyr2531
      @johnd.zephyr2531 Рік тому

      @@aliaswizard6963 It doesn't and they're just looking to make money because they spent all the royalties they've gotten I'm sure

    • @aliaswizard6963
      @aliaswizard6963 Рік тому

      I'm sure you are a fan of his. But Robin Thicke was sued for the same thing some years back look it up. The melody is damn near identical to Marvin Gaye. And maybe they did spend the royalties. If they win this case I have plenty more money 🤑💰😂

    • @Bishe1997
      @Bishe1997 Рік тому

      @@aliaswizard6963 😂 they try to grab Millions from ED but never gonna happen. God Bless ED and people stand with ED .we whole Asian nation stands with ED .Ed always going to win .God bless him

  • @lalang4806
    @lalang4806 Рік тому +1

    im happy he won. he disnt deserve this!!

  • @IClickYouDie-
    @IClickYouDie- Рік тому

    Thinking out loud sounds like a slower twisted version so its not the same

  • @darkz005
    @darkz005 Рік тому

    How about HALO of Beyonce and Already Gone by Kelly Clarkson isn't it both songs sounds the same? You can even sing the first stanza of Halo then use the chorus of Already Gone. 😅😅😅 Did they sue each other?

  • @rickysfilmreviews3825
    @rickysfilmreviews3825 5 місяців тому

    Sorry, but if Ed’s being taken to court over copyright, then they need to give Ariana Grande a call IMMEDIATELY.
    The main chorus in her song ‘Santa Tell Me’ is a total recycling of Amy Grant’s ‘Baby, Baby’..
    In fact, it’s such a rip-off that I’m left singing 'Baby, Baby' after hearing Ariana’s tune every Christmas.

  • @gilbertlay5358
    @gilbertlay5358 Рік тому +2

    Creativity is NOT Infinite. And being near infinite is the basis for copyright laws. In FACT the last few decades has seen a rise in copyright lawsuits simply because the art & music that is palatable is limited. We need to restrict copyright to a mere 20 years! After 20 it all goes into the public domain.

    • @shaunkellison1761
      @shaunkellison1761 Рік тому +2

      Or... hear me out... or.... you could write new songs. Just sayin

    • @sashawalker4492
      @sashawalker4492 Рік тому +4

      @@shaunkellison1761 kind of hard if everyone has a different idea of what "new" means.

    • @shaunkellison1761
      @shaunkellison1761 Рік тому +1

      @@sashawalker4492 the definition is very clear. That’s why Pharrell, Sam Smith, and this dude are about to pay a lot of money. The law is very clear when it comes to copyright, you can’t steal a section of a song with the exact same bass, drum and guitar melody, without running into some sort of copyright claim.

    • @sashawalker4492
      @sashawalker4492 Рік тому +2

      @@shaunkellison1761 if it was the same lyrics, fine. But copy right over chords is stupid, especially for a song where the writer has passed away over 40 years ago. There is no crime in being inspired by someone's art to create something all of your own.
      "What if it was decided that it was proper to wear a codfish on your head? Would you wear it?" (Alice in Wonderland, Disney)

    • @shaunkellison1761
      @shaunkellison1761 Рік тому

      @@sashawalker4492 it’s not over chords,. It’s over the base, drums, and guitar that are exactly the same.
      Then you add in the plaintiffs complaint about the exact same level of reverb and matching within 99.9% accuracy of the original tune for over 60% of the song.
      I understand that you… Self-proclaimed music expert… Don’t hear the same song, but there are people… Actual music experts who disagree with you.
      Take audacity, for instance… A computer program that analyzes the difference between two different songs. Audacity says that they are 99.37% the same at the time in question.
      Maybe you should stick to your fast food cashier job, because music analyst isn’t your strong suit

  • @jaanaviit3847
    @jaanaviit3847 Рік тому +1

    This is a ludicrous attempt at trying to get money. They sound nothing alike!! And I’m a huge Marvin Gaye fan…

  • @Fqlan
    @Fqlan Рік тому

    Words are something else, it’s someone’s. But chord is not, chords can be elevated, changed, or appeared to be the same. It belongs to the guitar only and to the very person that invented this item.
    This is a joke.
    Chords were already there before any musician got to play it. No one owns chords. Not even the Rhythm, maybe words.

  • @masterwolfofthesea4817
    @masterwolfofthesea4817 Рік тому +4

    Copyright is stealing someone else's music point-for-point

    • @aliaswizard6963
      @aliaswizard6963 Рік тому +1

      No it's not you can copy the melody in these songs have strong similarities

    • @SweetnSourqt3
      @SweetnSourqt3 Рік тому +4

      @@aliaswizard6963 Copying a melody is called “Sampling”. There are tons of songs created today that were sampled from oldies. This is nothing new.

    • @aliaswizard6963
      @aliaswizard6963 Рік тому +2

      @@SweetnSourqt3 right Robin Thicke got sued all of the people that are saying this is racism 😭 they need to go and look that up 😂

    • @shaunkellison1761
      @shaunkellison1761 Рік тому +2

      Wrong. It can count in sections and verses

    • @shaunkellison1761
      @shaunkellison1761 Рік тому +1

      @@SweetnSourqt3 "Sampling" has been one of the largest money makers for the music industry. They have been suing each other over the NWA for the past 40 years

  • @benjiarehart2878
    @benjiarehart2878 Рік тому +1

    Money Grab. FAILED!

  • @GlennberBunsoNodado
    @GlennberBunsoNodado Рік тому

    Marvingaye is so greedy. Doesn't even sound nothing a like. The song is already 13 years ago & now he's just complain? If this is a lawsuit, why there's no copyright since this release? Lol.

  • @NsskMedia
    @NsskMedia Рік тому

    Next will be that u'll be sue for looking alike someone who already exist ???

  • @foreveryuhang
    @foreveryuhang Рік тому

    The lawsuit against Ed Sheeran backfire, resulting in free publicity instead 😆

  • @pennylane36
    @pennylane36 Рік тому +4

    ya know what's weird? Music has been around forever, longer than all our lives, I'm 59, and American and until today, I've never heard a single song by Marvin Gaye. I think to prove infringement, that would have to first prove, that he's even ever heard this song. He was 23 when he released this song, so try and prove that he had heard that song by Marvin Gaye, before age 23, a young British man.

    • @aliaswizard6963
      @aliaswizard6963 Рік тому

      Whoever did production or wrote the song for him. That's the person to blame or he probably did hear Marvin Gaye. You do know we have streaming services right? At the click of a button you can listen to any song you think of.

  • @Vanilla_not.here0
    @Vanilla_not.here0 2 місяці тому

    I honestly disagree with Gaye. Does it really matter if Ed Sheeran has the SAME FOUR CHORDS just for a STUPID song WHO CARES ABOUT THAT? Why is Gaye sueing Sheeran JUST FOR THIS? ITS NOT INSULTING!!!

  • @theresamurphy6706
    @theresamurphy6706 Рік тому

    That’s Marvin beat in the background it’s Marvin Gaye’s tone

  • @ashleyquintanar727
    @ashleyquintanar727 Рік тому

    What is the point of this?

  • @IC_KIKO
    @IC_KIKO Рік тому

    It’s sound’s nothing alike

  • @lesleychurch3479
    @lesleychurch3479 Рік тому

    I love Marvin and Ed, but the song's don't sound alike.

  • @namean6624
    @namean6624 Рік тому +7

    this just sounds like a bad joke lol

  • @brandon6768
    @brandon6768 Рік тому

    If Sheeran was black this wouldn’t be happening. Change my mind.

  • @thomasgrotschel2255
    @thomasgrotschel2255 7 місяців тому

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    @thomasgrotschel2255 7 місяців тому

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  • @KipBurbank1
    @KipBurbank1 Рік тому

    Very similar groove

  • @paulinpergjegaj8314
    @paulinpergjegaj8314 21 день тому

    They Totaly diferent no know they just Wanted money from.him ahah

  • @shaunkellison1761
    @shaunkellison1761 Рік тому +1

    I have alot of AI based software for auto tuning and sound measurement. I can tell you after downloading both songs that he ABSOLUTLY copied Marvin for more than half of the song. Dums, Bass, and guitar is in lockstep with the Marvin tune. I have two charts overlayed on top of each other and they are IDENTICAL.

    • @katrinamilam1328
      @katrinamilam1328 Рік тому +4

      The song may be similar, but the court needs to prove he "copied" it meaning he did it on purpose. They won't find he did that, if the trial is fair, because Ed is Ed. He can be honest to a fault!! He gives all kinds of people writing credit for songs when they barely deserve the credit and he has hundreds of songs. He doesn't need to, nor does he copy old a$$ songs to make his music. As I said, he's no one hit wonder who needs help writing songs. He also doesn't need new material or money badly enough to do that on purpose even if he WAS that kind of person. I'm confident they won't find any intent there.

    • @shaunkellison1761
      @shaunkellison1761 Рік тому +1

      @@katrinamilam1328 you can accidentally re-create madonnas like a virgin… You’re still under copyright law restriction

    • @katrinamilam1328
      @katrinamilam1328 Рік тому +1

      I don't think I said anything to the contrary.

    • @shaunkellison1761
      @shaunkellison1761 Рік тому +1

      @@katrinamilam1328 accidentally committing a copyright violation, does not absolve you from a copyright violation.
      This is how George Harrison lost his case when he created my sweet love. He subconsciously heard a doo-wop song with the same exact melody and chord structure. Paid them millions of dollars in restitution.

    • @buggiemara4902
      @buggiemara4902 Рік тому

      wow, AI software

  • @KerbsterRules
    @KerbsterRules Рік тому +1

    Ed Sheeran lost this one! these new artists have to stop stealing music

    • @sashawalker4492
      @sashawalker4492 Рік тому +2

      How much new music do you think people are going to be able to make without it having ANY similarities to other music? How many chords do you think their are. Eventually, nobody will be able to make music (or want to) at all.

    • @Geminiqueen21
      @Geminiqueen21 Рік тому

      You sound really stupid, especially considering ed Sheeran is a singer/SONGWRITER. He doesn’t need to steal anyone’s songs. And he writes music for other people. There’s only so many chords you can use when making music, and music has been around for a long time. Of course things are going to start sounding similar. He in no way stole anyone’s song.

    • @shyysutb
      @shyysutb Рік тому +6

      @@sashawalker4492 guess anyone who play a major G would be considered stealing by the first one who plays it then😅

  • @johnlee7479
    @johnlee7479 Рік тому

    Ed’s a thief

  • @fonzierello3424
    @fonzierello3424 Рік тому +8

    Typical, she wants money!!!

    • @shaunkellison1761
      @shaunkellison1761 Рік тому

      Well... to be fair... AI found that more than %60 of the song was copied. It provided overlays and charts showing the exact same pattern. They have scientific proof that a majority of this was copied

    • @kuyanick
      @kuyanick 9 місяців тому

      ​@@shaunkellison1761 I can understand but to also be fair, a vast number of songs for decades have used the same 4 chord progression, before and since "Let's Get It On."
      If we had the same approach for photography, we might sue over the rule of thirds composition-or for graphic design, the use of Helvetica in hundreds of major fonts. Today, the irony is that AI is in hot water for plagiarizing the works of millions of artists. I'd like to see the software run a self-check. Way to deflect, AI :P
      Logically, the idea of pure originality isn't realistic. We are inspired and we learn from others. Even unique ideas are rooted from something existing, but from that we get creativity.
      I know legally there may not be a clear answer, but I hope we continue to use human discernment alongside computer data in the future.

  • @420blazeeee
    @420blazeeee Рік тому

    who cares ed sheeran sucks at music anyways 💀marvin gaye is a music legend. end of story.