You should of asked him about all his friends growing up, the second he got famous he hasn't spoken a word to them, he's a spaz from a town called Framlingham in Suffolk.
Wow it took the courts 8 years to settle something that is common sense. Shows the sheer ridiculousness and inefficiency of the system. Well done Ed on fighting the good fight.
It would be great to see them get sued for defamation and wasting time. But there's no way in hell Ed would want to go through that, so props for sticking it out.
When I first started learning guitar. My guitar tutor said everything on the guitar has already been done. Everyone is sharing guitar knowledge at this point. Ed pointed this out perfectly.
Back in the days before social media, John Fogerty from Credence Clearwater did the same thing in court. Took his guitar and played in the courtroom. He won his case as well.
holy shit, 8 years for a stupid chord progression that millions of songs have used before? that's total BS man, so glad Ed won this case and it's well deserved 'cause thinking out loud is a fantastic tune
Can't believe it took 8 years for the court system to decide something that should only take 5 minutes of listening to both songs to know they are not the same. At least with Ed's win, future generations of songwriters will be less scared to release their music.
Making a case bigger than it ought to be can go both ways. On one hand it likely "wasted" a lot of resources for both parties and even tax payers; on the other hand it sets a much stronger precedence for future similar cases and likely will reduce the amount of frivolous suits in the future. I'm actually glad the case became such high profile. Ed Sheeran took one for the team and the whole case is going to do everyone a favor.
The bigger issue isn't even whether they sound the same (which they don't), but more so that even if they did it shouldn't matter. There are a finite number of chords and among them you have to then find ones that sound good together. Unless it's a blatant ripoff, for the sake of the art form we have to keep that space open for people to be creative.
definitely a win for musicians. but, in a roundabout way, he actually proved that it's not rightfully his....nor anyone's...and that was the point of his chord progression expression in the court case itself. he was basically mocking the very idea of ownership of any chord progression, and he's 100% correct. it was an intelligent passive aggressive method to call the lawsuit itself ridiculous. good on him for it
What they did to Sheeran was absolutely disgusting, and he needs to be compensated greatly by whoever did this unlawful suing. Truly truly despicable people.
Actually the song was the same, the jury just had no knowledge of music theory and have no idea how to break down a song....or they were fans. But it was definitely the same song
@@rob2039you’ve completely missed the point. Or didn’t listen to Sheeran’s argument which was entirely valid: certain chord sequences have been around for centuries because they have a certain emotional/aesthetic effect and every musician has ‘borrowed’ them at one time or another. Do you think that every chord sequence that Mozart or Beethoven used was unique to them?
I love that he used historical proof of many songs to show the jury that these cord progressions can't be copyrighted or owned by anyone because they have been a part of music for centuries and thus have been commonly used by too many musicians for any one person to claim they created thus own them.
A lot of artist/musician may just want to settle it quietly but for Ed to got to court and proper fight the case is very important for the future of music industry imo
You rock Ed! So sorry you had to miss your grandmother’s funeral. A sad day when you have to defend chords that have been around for years. Your song is brilliant!!
Just to be clear : Ed was alleged to have used parts of a song Marvin Gaye sung and co - wrote. But it was the *estate of co - writer Ed Townsend and their rights management firm (s) and attorneys that sued Ed Sheeran* . The reporting of the 8 year trial does not indicate any real involvement by the estate of Marvin Gaye.
I think Marvin Gaye would be turning in his grave at the thought of legal people trying to unfairly make money out of another songwriter. Ed did his homework though and embarrassed them all.
@@chris-4566 I mean his estate sued Robin Thicke for Blurred Lines. Now that one wasn't exactly a clear cut case. The song was clearly inspired but the Marvin Gaye song, It was in awhile different key too, but if I remember correctly Thicke lost that one.
8 years gone and the last chance to say goodbye to his grandmother. Success is the greatest revenge here, ladies and gentlemen. He will go on and those that tried to ruin him and music in general will continue on to see his name across the internet and around the world. I hope this inspires everyone a little more.
Very, very happy you won your case Ed. Sorry it took so many years to win, justice runs ridiculously slow, but in the end, justice was served. Thank you for taking a stand and helping musicians everywhere.
I won't say justice was served, it took so many years and tons of money to fight this case. If he had lost, his entire reputation would have gone out to the dumpster and over that he would had to give a huge chunk of money to the other side. Now that he has won, he has still not got compensated for defamation and false allegation
Good on you Ed! As a singer/songwriter myself AND a DJ, you paved the way for artistic freedom for all of us. Keep writing great tunes and thank you for being you!
@@jackalterman they sued based on the melody of Sam Smith's song which is practically identical. He didn't sue The Strokes as they were just 'similar' rather than a complete lift.
He’s absolutely right. So many songs that can be intertwined with each other. We use to do Louie Louie, Rockin in the USA, and What I like about you as a mash up
I’m not an Ed Sheeran fan but well done to him for fighting this case and rightfully winning! There are unscrupulous Law firms out there going through archives of songs just so they can approach families of previous artists and cajole them into taking out lawsuits with the promise of untold wealth!…….These lawyers are just vermin! 😡
I'm so glad he fought it and won and I'm so sorry he had to miss his grandmother's funeral. That is sad, but I'm sure she smiled down on him for his courage. Bless him. I love his music and ironically when I heard Thinking Out Loud my thought was how different it sounded than anything I ever heard. It's one of my favorite songs ever!
I studied music all my life and one of my piano teachers was a serious jazz player. From him, I learned of Bach's immortal quote, "There are only 12 notes". Given the sheer quantity of music produced in the past 50-60 years, there is BOUND to be, as Ed said, some similarity of progressions. Yayy Ed!!
only 12 and only certain ones sound good with each other... further limiting the variation possibilities. Pop music specifically has an extremely limited set of chord sequences that spans thousands of songs.
Well done Ed in all these cases. It reminds me of the Axis of Awesome 4 chord skit - scary numbers of popular songs use the same chord sequences, it would be nuts for them to be copyrighted!
Yes, you can't copyright a chord sequence. I'm a composer and countless times I sang different songs on top of a single track. I learned a song on a mass in France at Our lady of Lourdes sanctuary. I fell in love with the melody and after going back home I decided to make my own arrangement on my keyboard. While playing and singing I realized that Jessy J's Price Tag song fits perfectly on that same chord sequence.
There used to an expression "I've only been ruined twice. Once when I lost a lawsuit. And once when I won one." It's always a pain in the ass and loss of time if not money.
It’d sad how Marvin Gaye’s estate try to bleed contemporary artists for money claiming copyright, when it was Marvin Gaye’s estate that killed Marvin Gaye in the first place
How about when they won the Blurred Lines lawsuit just because it had the same 'feel' (at the beginning) as Gaye's song?...totally ridiculous...and that's why I was afraid they'd win this one.
Congratulations on your win Ed Sheeran with your court case. Well done. Sometimes you JUST need to fight the good fight. Keep on fighting for your beliefs. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Hey Howard,,,Thanks for having ED on your show,,,,ED CONGRATULATIONS,,,FROM ONE SONG WRITER TOO ANOTHER YOU WON THIS FOR MANY OF US THAT TRULY LOVE SONGWRITING ,,,I am truly very happy for you,,you stuck up for yourself and the craft of SONGWRITING... THANKS--RJ.
He deserved to win! There’s only so many notes and chords in the world, there’s probably no chord changes left that haven’t been used. If he’d lost, there would be no point to anyone making new music because someone could go back to this case and use it to say any song is copying another.
When he started playing those songs, I had major "four chord song" vibe from axis of awesome. That whole comedic segment alone shows you just how many songs use the same sequence of chords all the time.
If he lose, all musicians are gonna be afraid to make songs because all chord sequence or progressions have already been used way back in the past and the next thing you know you have a lawsuit. Congrats to him this is not just his win but for all musicians, artists and aspiring artists.
On life... he he lost, I was going to chill on making music💯. Ed music is absolutely amazing and original AF. Shout out and much Love. Congratulations on your victory💯🙏🏾❤️
Good point about loads of songs having similar progression. I use the example of "Glycerin" by Bush, "When I come around" by Greenday and "With or Without You" by U2.
That's absolutely ridiculous and untrue , additionally chords can't be used to sue a songwriter legally, only melody, there is a huge variation of possible chord progressions, major keys have absolutely nothing to do with it,
I agree 👍There are only so many pleasing and catchy chord progressions in popular Western music. Otherwise you're straying into atonal music which is an acquired taste to say the least.
I’m not really a fan, but I respect him for this. He did the research - songs in the 1700’s with the same progression, wow. Also, such a shame he missed his granny’s funeral.
No research about The English language was ever needed No research about the Notes of Music was ever needed Only a Cover is a Copyright infringement Everything else is GREED from the Parasites.
@@jordoncrump91 The case was about the chord progression..if he had lost, all the musicians around the world, especially acoustic musicians would have been copyrighted as well. There are thousands of songs with the same chord progression
I agree with everything you're saying Ed, the music business and industry has gone so far down the hill, it's absolutely pitiful. I cannot begin to say how much it's getting any worse, but all I can say is that I do wish you well as a talented songwriter and performer, and do hope that you will continue to stand up to this utter cruel, inhumane and criminal evil that is happening within the music business and its industry today. Thank you Ed for standing up against this on here.
In some ways, I think you gained Ed Sheeran. I know of you more and I have a lot of respect for you! Thanks for taking one for us all and we are all better for it.
How did I go from loving Ed to hating Ed without even knowing it? And now I watch this and it reminds me why I loved him in the first place. What a legend!
I just wanted to say, to have Ed Sheeran as a precedent in future cases is dope. Generations of songwriters will be grateful because you won, Mr. Sheeran.
The first case that I’ve personally found of the I V vi IV chord progression (used in almost every pop song ever) is Pachelbel’s Canon in D. This piece was composed in 1680. If you want to see just how influential that one piece is, and how many songs use that same progression, look up “Canon but I keep getting distracted mostly by Nintendo songs” by stella, or look up “Four Chords Song” by Axis of Awesome.
It’s not just the chord progression. Vibe too. I don’t think he should have lost… But then didn’t Pharrel lose his case for Blurred Lines on ‘vibe’ alone?
No way. I'm familiar with that case as well, and the similarities were MUCH more than in this case. I don't even know that the other case was a slam dunk, but I could certainly see why it was ruled that way.
Not a fan of his music but fook me sideways he is not only 10000% correct but this paves the way for utterly ridiculous suits to be binned ..Well done fella ..new fan right here ❤
The Axis of Awesome said back in 2005 that all the biggest hits use the same 4 chords, whether it's on guitar or piano. And they've proven it several times.
The problem with this idea is that it would make it so only the rich could afford to sue. Regular people wouldn't dare sue anyone - especially a big business - for fear that they'd go bankrupt should they lose.
If you file a lawsuit and lose AND it's deemed to be frivolous. Not every disagreement is clear cut and sometimes the people filing suit do it with the best intentions. Patrick Lawless above has a good point as well.
James Jamerson’s bass line is the element that makes the songs sound similar, not the chord progression. But Jamerson didn’t even get royalties on the original song.
So many popular songs are built around 4 main chords. Of course they will sound similar eventually. I'm no Sheeran fan but it's crazy he had to fight for so long to prove something so simple.
The best point he made was that Gaye/Townsend's chord progressions were similar to those that came before them so their heirs couldn't claim to own them.
Stream the FULL interview now on SiriusXM: sxm.app.link/HSEdSheeran
@Karl with a K explain that one please
You should of asked him about all his friends growing up, the second he got famous he hasn't spoken a word to them, he's a spaz from a town called Framlingham in Suffolk.
was hoping this derivative knt would give up music
Wow it took the courts 8 years to settle something that is common sense. Shows the sheer ridiculousness and inefficiency of the system. Well done Ed on fighting the good fight.
The ramifications were massive thats why it took 8 years, because common sense isn't written into law and can't be either.
It would be great to see them get sued for defamation and wasting time. But there's no way in hell Ed would want to go through that, so props for sticking it out.
@@ConReese Exactly... If he lost this lawsuit, I cant imagine how many new lawsuits would have been filed. Huge win for Ed and making music
@@samuelcosentino-hunter5545 That would make no sense at all.
*sheer* ridiculousness, I see what you did there
This was more than just Ed Sheeran winning in court. This was a victory against GREED!
ok
it was an important legal precedent.
The Marvin Gaye estate will find someone else to sue next week lmao
@@SubxZeroGamer This particular case was brought by the Ed Townsend estate. Townsend co-wrote Let’s Get It On with Marvin Gaye.
@@keithbromley6070 Oh I didn't know that lol
I'm no Sheeran fan but kudos to him for fighting the good fight for EVERY musician out there.
I'm a fan now, glad he WON!
@@acelarson1872 Me too.
Me either
100% if I was a musician, I'd be flattered, not determined to chase people.
@@acelarson1872 I hope you check out all his genres of music. He’s so versatile.
When I first started learning guitar. My guitar tutor said everything on the guitar has already been done. Everyone is sharing guitar knowledge at this point. Ed pointed this out perfectly.
What a very motivating thing to say to new guitar student.
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No but ed really takes the piss with his thievery, he just steals vibes outright
I dont fully agree.
Back in the days before social media, John Fogerty from Credence Clearwater did the same thing in court. Took his guitar and played in the courtroom. He won his case as well.
He was sued for plagiarising himself, which is the most ridiculous thing ever
fogerty got soooooo badly screwed over by his record company. he is a living legend for all the crap he had to put up with.
@@okee9 Not really.
So did George Harrison. He lost.
Well then Fogerty should sue Sheeran for plagiarizing his strategy in court :)
As a musician this is a super important case and a huge deal for all future musicians. YOU CANNOT OWN CHORD PROGRESSIONS.
Nobody ever said you could, it's melody that's the issue as it's specific
It's not especially important as this is a precedent set many years ago.
especially if you are using 3.
@@kippsguitar6539you can keep saying it as much as you want but your still talking out of your arse.
Americans try
holy shit, 8 years for a stupid chord progression that millions of songs have used before? that's total BS man, so glad Ed won this case and it's well deserved 'cause thinking out loud is a fantastic tune
It was more than 'chord progression'. Calm the f down until you know whats up lol.
@@bobabooey4537 nah. It was bullshit grifting and you know it
Ditto to lucas, not the reply.
@@bobabooey4537 no it was only the chord progression
It's not the case, it's about specific melody
Can't believe it took 8 years for the court system to decide something that should only take 5 minutes of listening to both songs to know they are not the same. At least with Ed's win, future generations of songwriters will be less scared to release their music.
Making a case bigger than it ought to be can go both ways. On one hand it likely "wasted" a lot of resources for both parties and even tax payers; on the other hand it sets a much stronger precedence for future similar cases and likely will reduce the amount of frivolous suits in the future. I'm actually glad the case became such high profile. Ed Sheeran took one for the team and the whole case is going to do everyone a favor.
The United States Justice system is a joke.
They wanted to keep getting free Ed Sheeran concerts
The bigger issue isn't even whether they sound the same (which they don't), but more so that even if they did it shouldn't matter. There are a finite number of chords and among them you have to then find ones that sound good together.
Unless it's a blatant ripoff, for the sake of the art form we have to keep that space open for people to be creative.
Was it really 8 yrs holy shit???
Win for musicians everywhere! Thank you Ed for standing up for what is rightfully yours
definitely a win for musicians. but, in a roundabout way, he actually proved that it's not rightfully his....nor anyone's...and that was the point of his chord progression expression in the court case itself. he was basically mocking the very idea of ownership of any chord progression, and he's 100% correct. it was an intelligent passive aggressive method to call the lawsuit itself ridiculous. good on him for it
What they did to Sheeran was absolutely disgusting, and he needs to be compensated greatly by whoever did this unlawful suing. Truly truly despicable people.
That's the Marvin Gaye estate. Really puts a sour taste in the mouth.
Nino618 true, the estate *and their rights management* company (ies).
The Gaye estate sues a bunch of people. They successfully sued Robin Thicke.
It's the same one that took down Robin Thicke and Pharrell for Blurred Lines, but they won that one.
Actually the song was the same, the jury just had no knowledge of music theory and have no idea how to break down a song....or they were fans. But it was definitely the same song
Thank god you won ed. This would have been horribly detrimental to the industry as a whole.
it would force the use of odd time signatures
@@rob2039 As with many other songs ever
@@rob2039you’ve completely missed the point. Or didn’t listen to Sheeran’s argument which was entirely valid: certain chord sequences have been around for centuries because they have a certain emotional/aesthetic effect and every musician has ‘borrowed’ them at one time or another. Do you think that every chord sequence that Mozart or Beethoven used was unique to them?
i’m waiting for your reaction to Ed’s new album
Ok now write a song that has the same vibe and chord progression and let us know how that goes
I wouldn't mind hearing Ed sing all 101 songs that have the same chord sequences.
Axis of Awesome has a clip here on YT where they go through several dozen.
Flight of the concords 4 chord song
This is nonsense, it's melody that's the issue not generic chord progression
@@kippsguitar6539 No, it was about how similar the background music notes were. Sheeran's vocal melody was obviously different to Gaye's.
You'd love the music from 2000s McDonald's toys then. It's a step up from his stuff that's for sure
Your song is brilliant
GOOD SONG
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I love that he used historical proof of many songs to show the jury that these cord progressions can't be copyrighted or owned by anyone because they have been a part of music for centuries and thus have been commonly used by too many musicians for any one person to claim they created thus own them.
Definite win for all musicians. Congratulations and thank you for fighting this issue.
Probably doesn’t do much for Dream Theatre 😂
A lot of artist/musician may just want to settle it quietly but for Ed to got to court and proper fight the case is very important for the future of music industry imo
Sticking up for all generic songwriters. What an inspiration!
@@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou generic or not, you can’t copyright a basic chord progression.
Oh please let’s some it your own magical creations 😂😂😂😂
all i can say i agree with ed 100% chord progression should not be copyrighted. congrats on the big win.
they aren't, melodies are copyrighted...at least not in the USA
chord progression can't be copyrighted because it goes with natural logic to make the music sound good
if it were so, beethoven, chopin, bach, et al would be trillionaires XD
@@tpl6963 They're dead.
@@hearmenow909 ah, i thought it'd been a while since beethoven last dropped some fye beat
You rock Ed! So sorry you had to miss your grandmother’s funeral. A sad day when you have to defend chords that have been around for years. Your song is brilliant!!
Just to be clear : Ed was alleged to have used parts of a song Marvin Gaye sung and co - wrote. But it was the *estate of co - writer Ed Townsend and their rights management firm (s) and attorneys that sued Ed Sheeran* . The reporting of the 8 year trial does not indicate any real involvement by the estate of Marvin Gaye.
bro called Saul 🤣
I think Marvin Gaye would be turning in his grave at the thought of legal people trying to unfairly make money out of another songwriter. Ed did his homework though and embarrassed them all.
Shameful. The estate of Ed Townsend and their lawyers are bloodsuckers and leeches. I hope that losing this case was a huge disaster for them.
Which Ed song and which Marvin song?
@@chris-4566 I mean his estate sued Robin Thicke for Blurred Lines. Now that one wasn't exactly a clear cut case. The song was clearly inspired but the Marvin Gaye song, It was in awhile different key too, but if I remember correctly Thicke lost that one.
8 years gone and the last chance to say goodbye to his grandmother.
Success is the greatest revenge here, ladies and gentlemen. He will go on and those that tried to ruin him and music in general will continue on to see his name across the internet and around the world.
I hope this inspires everyone a little more.
Way to go Ed ! Copyright is so tricky in the industry. Happy you showed them chord progressions of various songs . Good for you!
Very, very happy you won your case Ed. Sorry it took so many years to win, justice runs ridiculously slow, but in the end, justice was served. Thank you for taking a stand and helping musicians everywhere.
I won't say justice was served, it took so many years and tons of money to fight this case. If he had lost, his entire reputation would have gone out to the dumpster and over that he would had to give a huge chunk of money to the other side. Now that he has won, he has still not got compensated for defamation and false allegation
Good on you Ed! As a singer/songwriter myself AND a DJ, you paved the way for artistic freedom for all of us. Keep writing great tunes and thank you for being you!
the songs he played just to prove this..........there's some life in this, some beautiful existence in the way he play it❣
Tom Petty realized it was ridiculous and didn’t sue when folks really did lift their songs. Ed did not do this, btw. This lawsuit was ridiculous.
Tom Petty’s “estate”, on the other hand…
Yep he's wise and this proves it. None musicians won't understand so you cant bother explaining to them. There are only so many chords on the guitar.
@@jackalterman they sued based on the melody of Sam Smith's song which is practically identical. He didn't sue The Strokes as they were just 'similar' rather than a complete lift.
@@andybullemor-music5928 thankfully. I reckon Last Nite is the better song, too, and I'm a Tom Petty fan.
It reminds me of that Axis of Awesome bit awhile back where they play like 30 songs, that use the same chords.
He’s absolutely right. So many songs that can be intertwined with each other.
We use to do Louie Louie, Rockin in the USA, and What I like about you as a mash up
Absolutely not true
So rare to find people with real integrity and unwavering principles. Kudos Ed Sheeran!
Well done Ed, you’re a hero. You’ve saved music for us all! 🎉❤
I was a plaintiff in a large lawsuit for 7 years. It’s absolute hell with no winners, regardless of the result.
The lawyers won
How did Ed not win here?
I love how effortless he is with singing. Crystal clear every time.
I’m not an Ed Sheeran fan but well done to him for fighting this case and rightfully winning! There are unscrupulous Law firms out there going through archives of songs just so they can approach families of previous artists and cajole them into taking out lawsuits with the promise of untold wealth!…….These lawyers are just vermin! 😡
Moral and ethics don't tell you how the world works, incentive (in this case money) does.
@@bruce0750 Not everyone! Some people do have morals and ethics!…….just not lawyers it would seem! 🤔
The greedy family, too, is disgusting.
Lawyers, vermin? No way!
lawyers gotta eat too😂 jk
This kid is absolutely awesome!!! Down to earth and genuine. Good for him!!!
Kid? He's 32 lol.
@@Glitchunlocked Depends on your perspective. 32 is definitely still a kid to me...
@@jtidema Well, that's one way to tell everyone you're an out of touch boomer then.
I'm so glad he fought it and won and I'm so sorry he had to miss his grandmother's funeral.
That is sad, but I'm sure she smiled down on him for his courage.
Bless him.
I love his music and ironically when I heard Thinking Out Loud my thought was how different it sounded than anything I ever heard.
It's one of my favorite songs ever!
I wasn't an Ed Sheeran fan before but I am now. Thank you Ed for kicking this BS into touch.
Ed is a class act all the way! Case in point: ua-cam.com/video/RVlvdCjqJwo/v-deo.html
I studied music all my life and one of my piano teachers was a serious jazz player. From him, I learned of Bach's immortal quote, "There are only 12 notes". Given the sheer quantity of music produced in the past 50-60 years, there is BOUND to be, as Ed said, some similarity of progressions. Yayy Ed!!
only 12 notes
only 12 and only certain ones sound good with each other... further limiting the variation possibilities. Pop music specifically has an extremely limited set of chord sequences that spans thousands of songs.
There are only 12 notes… in western music.
Let's go chromatic, microtonal or even fretless! Then the possibilities could be endless lol
@@adrianhernandez6870 in any
Well done Ed in all these cases. It reminds me of the Axis of Awesome 4 chord skit - scary numbers of popular songs use the same chord sequences, it would be nuts for them to be copyrighted!
Yes, you can't copyright a chord sequence. I'm a composer and countless times I sang different songs on top of a single track.
I learned a song on a mass in France at Our lady of Lourdes sanctuary. I fell in love with the melody and after going back home I decided to make my own arrangement on my keyboard. While playing and singing I realized that Jessy J's Price Tag song fits perfectly on that same chord sequence.
There used to an expression "I've only been ruined twice. Once when I lost a lawsuit. And once when I won one." It's always a pain in the ass and loss of time if not money.
It’d sad how Marvin Gaye’s estate try to bleed contemporary artists for money claiming copyright, when it was Marvin Gaye’s estate that killed Marvin Gaye in the first place
Sad that people keep getting that wrong.
How about when they won the Blurred Lines lawsuit just because it had the same 'feel' (at the beginning) as Gaye's song?...totally ridiculous...and that's why I was afraid they'd win this one.
Yep. They're greedy.
@@supercussion6590 sure, but my point stretches to blurred lines too.
It was co-writers estate, not Marvin Gaye's...FYI
What a personality! What an example for millions of young people thinking of being a musician.
Congratulations on your win Ed Sheeran with your court case. Well done. Sometimes you JUST need to fight the good fight. Keep on fighting for your beliefs. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Ed is the real deal songwriter. He doesn't need to copy anyone. I dont listen to him much but I know of his talent.
Saw him in concert on Sat. 75% of the concert was just him. Looping and playing, it was stellar
@@pierrebenitez1877 Yep, same. Just him, a guitar, a microphone, and a loop pedal. The real deal
Ed is such a wonderful and gracious star. The height he has achieved and the humility he maintains is really special.
Hey Howard,,,Thanks for having ED on your show,,,,ED CONGRATULATIONS,,,FROM ONE SONG WRITER TOO ANOTHER YOU WON THIS FOR MANY OF US THAT TRULY LOVE SONGWRITING ,,,I am truly very happy for you,,you stuck up for yourself and the craft of SONGWRITING... THANKS--RJ.
You know what I'm genuinely happy for Ed Sheeran he's a an awesome guy and a great singer/song writer
I really felt for Ed in this trial. Thank you uploading
yes i feel sorry for his millions :(
@@darinsteele7091 Way to miss the point, slap nuts.
@@darinsteele7091 if you have a talent you deserve to be paid for it
@@LinkRocks lol
@@LinkRocks A wild Double J appeared!
It's not often I'm morally in line with Howard Stern, but I appreciate the moment.
He deserved to win! There’s only so many notes and chords in the world, there’s probably no chord changes left that haven’t been used. If he’d lost, there would be no point to anyone making new music because someone could go back to this case and use it to say any song is copying another.
Ed sheeran singing Still the One is amazing. I need a full version.
Yes! ❤
Three words, Axis of Awesome. They did this exactly years ago, if they just played that clip at the beginning of the court case, Ed would have won.
I think they actually did show that to the jury!
ua-cam.com/video/OMshvUReunc/v-deo.html
Indeed!
Yes yes yes.
Kudos for fighting it and winning it Ed! We always love you and grateful for your music!!
KUDOS!!??? KUDOS baby. KUDOS to Ed!!!!!! Kudos in your breakfast bowl!!! Yeeee Hahhh!!!!!!! KUDOS!!!!!!
Look at how many songs use the C, G, Am, F sequence. Axis of awesome did a great song that really spelled it out how many songs use the same sequence.
When he started playing those songs, I had major "four chord song" vibe from axis of awesome. That whole comedic segment alone shows you just how many songs use the same sequence of chords all the time.
They should be a counter case to sue them for defamation or something so greedy people don't end up wasting time.
Awesome moment from the Howard show. These kinds of questions are vintage Howard
If he lose, all musicians are gonna be afraid to make songs because all chord sequence or progressions have already been used way back in the past and the next thing you know you have a lawsuit. Congrats to him this is not just his win but for all musicians, artists and aspiring artists.
On life... he he lost, I was going to chill on making music💯. Ed music is absolutely amazing and original AF. Shout out and much Love. Congratulations on your victory💯🙏🏾❤️
Good point about loads of songs having similar progression. I use the example of "Glycerin" by Bush, "When I come around" by Greenday and "With or Without You" by U2.
Melody is the song. Chord progressions and rhythmic patterns are shared by hundreds of songs, especially within the context of a specific genre.
I think you mean hundreds of thousands.
Not really. Chords and rhythm are more important but they are so ubiquitous there would be no songwriting if people could own them.
@@redrick8900 Yes, really.
In Western music using major keys there's really only a pretty small handful of chord progressions, and they've all been used countless times.
That's absolutely ridiculous and untrue , additionally chords can't be used to sue a songwriter legally, only melody, there is a huge variation of possible chord progressions, major keys have absolutely nothing to do with it,
I agree 👍There are only so many pleasing and catchy chord progressions in popular Western music. Otherwise you're straying into atonal music which is an acquired taste to say the least.
I’m not really a fan, but I respect him for this. He did the research - songs in the 1700’s with the same progression, wow. Also, such a shame he missed his granny’s funeral.
No research about The English language was ever needed
No research about the Notes of Music was ever needed
Only a Cover is a Copyright infringement Everything else is GREED from the Parasites.
his team did the research lol
@@Tateygb You can do it easily with google. It's not hard.
@@redrick8900 why would he do it tho he's rich and pays for lawyers
I'm not really familiar with Ed's music, but I am now a fan of him. I'll be checking out his music now for sure. Kudos!
Absolutely fantastic! Thanks for saving music Ed!
Saving music? What do you mean? What would've happened, no more music would've ever been made from then on?
@@jordoncrump91 If he had lost then every musician would have been afraid to compose for the fear of being taken to court.
@@jordoncrump91 The case was about the chord progression..if he had lost, all the musicians around the world, especially acoustic musicians would have been copyrighted as well. There are thousands of songs with the same chord progression
Thank God for this result! Well done Ed and thank you for protecting the future of song writing 👍👍
Jon bon Jovi messaging Ed sheeran amazing respect to a legend JBJ 👏
I’m a songwriter composer producer and performer, Ed is correct, chord progressions can’t be copyrighted cause everyone uses them
Love seeing Ed Sheeran on been himself and not just the MEME that has built up around him.
Nice talented bloke.
Edit: holy crap 8 years of that!
Basically all pop songs use the same chord progression. It’s simple, easy but catchy. Putting Melody to it is the unique bit
I assume you're talking about nowadays? Because, the Beatles, for instance, mixed things up quite a bit!
No they don't.
@@chadjohnson-authormusician8072 No they didn't.
I could have listened to him playing those similar chorded songs for like an hour.
I agree with everything you're saying Ed, the music business and industry has gone so far down the hill, it's absolutely pitiful. I cannot begin to say how much it's getting any worse, but all I can say is that I do wish you well as a talented songwriter and performer, and do hope that you will continue to stand up to this utter cruel, inhumane and criminal evil that is happening within the music business and its industry today. Thank you Ed for standing up against this on here.
In some ways, I think you gained Ed Sheeran. I know of you more and I have a lot of respect for you! Thanks for taking one for us all and we are all better for it.
I find it unbelievable that it ever went to court , well done Ed 👍
Thank goodness that you won! playing the song in court etc was genius as hell ! Chords are finite chords are NOT property !
How did I go from loving Ed to hating Ed without even knowing it? And now I watch this and it reminds me why I loved him in the first place. What a legend!
Obviously an exclusive interview. Well done for making the case clear to us mere mortals.
I just wanted to say, to have Ed Sheeran as a precedent in future cases is dope. Generations of songwriters will be grateful because you won, Mr. Sheeran.
Correct - nobody can own and copyright a chord progression. Good on you for standing up for every single song-writer in the world.
The first case that I’ve personally found of the I V vi IV chord progression (used in almost every pop song ever) is Pachelbel’s Canon in D. This piece was composed in 1680. If you want to see just how influential that one piece is, and how many songs use that same progression, look up “Canon but I keep getting distracted mostly by Nintendo songs” by stella, or look up “Four Chords Song” by Axis of Awesome.
It’s not just the chord progression. Vibe too.
I don’t think he should have lost…
But then didn’t Pharrel lose his case for Blurred Lines on ‘vibe’ alone?
No way. I'm familiar with that case as well, and the similarities were MUCH more than in this case. I don't even know that the other case was a slam dunk, but I could certainly see why it was ruled that way.
Well done Ed a great and proper result I'm so pleased for you 🎸🎤👍
Not a fan of his music but fook me sideways he is not only 10000% correct but this paves the way for utterly ridiculous suits to be binned ..Well done fella ..new fan right here ❤
Go you Sir!!! Not my cupa tea music wise. What he did for all the writers and players was border line insane and magical. RESPECT BRO
What's the guitar brand?
There’s no stain on your reputation in my mind. You’re an unbelievable talent and deserve the greatest respect. See you in Chicago in July.
The Axis of Awesome said back in 2005 that all the biggest hits use the same 4 chords, whether it's on guitar or piano. And they've proven it several times.
We need the rule that if you file a lawsuit and lose you have to pay the other side's attorney fees. This quickly eliminates frivolous lawsuits.
I'm surprised that's not already the case ?
Plenty of cases include this already. It's not technically mandated, but it's very common.
The problem with this idea is that it would make it so only the rich could afford to sue. Regular people wouldn't dare sue anyone - especially a big business - for fear that they'd go bankrupt should they lose.
If you file a lawsuit and lose AND it's deemed to be frivolous. Not every disagreement is clear cut and sometimes the people filing suit do it with the best intentions. Patrick Lawless above has a good point as well.
great interview Howard. thanks for posting it..
I agreed with you Ed…Congratulations and you deserve it because you really worked hard in all of your songs…lovely 🙏🏻😘👍🏻👏👏👏
Axis of Awesome ftw! Four chord song baby : Should have played that in court.
James Jamerson’s bass line is the element that makes the songs sound similar, not the chord progression. But Jamerson didn’t even get royalties on the original song.
Interesting!
Yes, I noticed that too. I’m just a music lover, not a musician but the bass is the only similarity I could hear as a layperson.
A lot of people made a lot of money out of James Jameson, whilst he died virtually broke. Shameful.
I love his songs, I really could not see any similarities, however Ed did educate me on music. Congratulations on the win. Keep making great music
So many popular songs are built around 4 main chords. Of course they will sound similar eventually. I'm no Sheeran fan but it's crazy he had to fight for so long to prove something so simple.
It would be incredibly petty, but if Ed dropped an album of covers all doing what he did at 0:42 to 0:56 , I think we’d all eat that up
The best point he made was that Gaye/Townsend's chord progressions were similar to those that came before them so their heirs couldn't claim to own them.
I would open a show with a medley of 6 songs, all with the general chord changes. He won and rightly so!
The great Axis of Awesome 4 Chord defence.
well done for standing for it
He still rockin’ it 🎸