I get my Shoei helmet in the frunk easily. Incidentally I recently did a trip from South Warwickshire to Lymington via the M40/A34/M3/M27. The traffic was very light (no doubt due to me leaving at 05:00am) and I was happy to tootle along at 60mph. The NC was showing 108.4mpg when I made my first stop in Brockenhurst. On my return I did 'make progress' and it returned 78mpg. I am lucky enough to own 3 bikes, but if I could only have 1, it would 100% be the NC. It is the most practical motorcycle I have ever owned in 43 years of riding.
My 750x manual was one of the first 750's in the uk ( 2014) fitted yss valves in the forks the early bike's had hard forks, heated grips and lower rear links ( 30 mm), and modified the cluch leaver to make it lighter to pull and i get 80+ mpg down to 76 mpg on motorway at 85+ mph . At 72 with arthritis this bike will last me to the end of my riding days ,
Hired the manual on my resent holiday in madiera. It surprised me . Iv owned several machines . And it's made me realise that a bike don't need to be a speed machine to be great fun . A practical bike can be fun . What an amazing bike honda as made there . Its perfect for that every day all round commuter. . Great review
I have a 21 manual and I love it. Toured 2 up with wife on the back no problem. I would not part with it. Great fuel economy and it puts a smile on my face. Put it in sport mode and you can have fun in the twisties . Mines a keeper.
After ankle surgery i sold my bikes at 63 yrs old. However, my itch became itchier without a bike. So i tested most 600-900cc bikes. I wanted something comfortable because of my skeletal issues. This was the only bike i rode more than twice and after a 9 month absence bought this same bike. I ve owned 47 bikes in my life. I can honestly say i cant keep off it. Living rurally i recently visited my daughters in central Birmingham, got very lost but riding this around the city in Dct was an absolute joy. It will cruise at well over the legal limits and feels quick off the line. Its hyper comfy for me at 6’1”. I drive mine in permanent sport mode at its average on the computer 83mpg, i ve not done a tank to tank calculation. I have fitted a centre stand a criminal omission, radiator guard, hugger, fender extender and heated grips…it doesnt have the raw thrill of say. Z900rs but i am totally in love with this bike, i just want to ride it all the time. I think the performance is more than adequate and it keeps up with the guys i ride with. My only complaints are the bike resets its mode everytime you stop the engine and i think the suspension is rubbishly cheap but does its job. I will be addressing this as i love the bike so much. I would also like some luggage and when you add up all these extras its not such a cheap bike. However its a supremely competent machine. You can change riding modes on the fly and indeed use the flappy paddles for engine braking without changing anything Nice thorough review cheers
I have a 2019 NC750X on loan from my insurance company, and what a great, but under rated little bike it is. I often read the words ‘boring and slow’, but in reality it’s easily quick enough for the roads, the low centre of gravity makes the bike feel more agile than it ought to be, and it sounds good to boot, all while sipping fuel, this one does 85mpg everywhere!
The helmet storage works better if you take the toolkit out! Mine was the same from new, the toolkit is not seated neatly in it's little slot, so prevents the helmet dropping fully down into the compartment. Remove toolkit retry. I found you can get the toolkit in much neater and still get an Arai XCess large in.
At 17:27 you got it backward. I own a manual transmission 2021 version of this bike. You can change the riding mode while riding it. First change the riding mode, say from standard to rain, close the throttle for a sec, re apply the throttle. The whole process takes 3 sec. Also, when you restart the engine, it always defaults to standard mode. It does not remember the last mode you were in. I have set the user mode to Max. Engine-Brake, 2/3 HP, Max Traction-Control. I'd like to use brakes less and engine brake more to control the flow of my movement as much as possible. Thanks a lot for the video.
I owned the original NC700X, and have since tested the 750S and 750X. The engine is nice and low revving, the storage was very handy (I could often go out without any luggage attached) and the newer DCT is much better than on my 700. Some quirks or annoyances I had were; most uncomfortable seat on any bike I’ve owned (no padding, too narrow, nasty slope that pushes you toward the tank), although I believe an aftermarket seats could resolve this, the low revving nature means there’s virtually no engine braking so you use the brakes a lot more, which are rather wooden and under-powered (even the Cb500X has 2 discs up front), the fuel cap really should be on the outside of the bike like the BMW F800 series - if you pack something on the back seat you have to remove it to fill up, plus the fuel cap just comes off. The fuel economy is good but I get exactly the same on my 750GS, with 20hp and 20Nm torque extra, which highlights this bike’s real downside - it just doesn’t have quite enough go. It’s very popular with couriers as its bulletproof but it’s not as much of a bargain compared to when it was first released (mine was £5350 new for reference) and I feel there are better options out there for an everyday bike. However, Honda should get kudos for making a bike that riders can own who cannot use clutch and gears due to disability.
I frequently achieved 100mpg on my 2015 NC750-X DCT. The NC is only slow compared to other bikes. It is way faster than the majority of cars. I would like to see Honda give it either shaft or belt drive and cruise control. Sure, it would be more expensive, but I reckon lots of people would be happy to pay for it...
@@BibtheBoulder Really? They had DCT in 2015? I had thought that a little more recent than that but I could be wrong. I get the idea of reliability with belt or shaft drive and the quiet and less maintenance; and I have it on on my big cruiser; but on a bike where my riding might have me wanting to be able to alter my gearing for lower 1st gear not for more power but for slower speed I still like to be able to choose what I want as this is meant to be a adventure bike not just a roady.
M H: Interesting how different people like different things. I appreciate why you and many others would like to see more power and higher RPM on this bike but for me the high torque more relaxed engine is the exact reason I like it most. More than most other bikes of similar or near similar capacity. Also the low weight due to engine layout and the type of valve adjustments rather than shims. Sadly This year Honda decided to no longer sell this bike in my country. Time to go with another dealer for a different bike I guess. Someone who wants to sell bikes.
The NC is a great bike and has provided me with everything I have needed for the last nine months. There are a few minor issues that you have addressed which I think arise as it has been built to allow a low price point. No side stand and heated grips are the most obvious and the dash display does not match TFT’s on models that costs thousands more. The DCT is wonderful to use and of course the paddles enable instant manual switching which I don’t recall you highlighting (sorry if you did and I wasn’t paying enough attention). Quick overtaking is easy enough to do that way. I has some issues with the screen which I cured with a £15.00 universal screen extender from the web. It is a doddle to move around and as you say appears much lighter than its actual weight due to the low centre of gravity. It does everything well and nothing badly. A true unsung hero in my eyes.
Had two NC's over the years. Both were 750 "S" models. I note that Honda dropped the S in favour of a lower seat height on the X. The reduction in suspension travel to allow for this won't affect any "off road" pretensions of the NC so that was a master stroke. My 2016 model had gears but I opted for dct for the 2018 version. I must say, the halogen headlight on the earlier model was excellent compared to the 2016 and it sounds like a good old "bulb" still makes sense sometimes? Excellent bikes though and I'd heartily recommend the NC to anyone who needs practicality, comfort and economy. The rather early rev limit of the earlier models takes you by surprise the first time you hit it (manual transmission obviously) but Honda have gradually increased this a bit over the years too. Another thing worthy of note is that it's a great bike for DIY servicing. The valve clearences are quite easy to do - being of a screwdriver and lock nut design 👍. The radiator has to be moved out of the way to access the valve cover but that's it. Taken, that the mileage intervals for this will likely coincide with a bi-annual cooling system refresh it's also handy.
I own a 2012 700 XD DCT, I bought it used in dec 2016 with 400 miles at $5200 and it had loads of options. I have really enjoyed this bike it does everything I want and gets great mileage. I considered trading up to a 750 but found that they lowered the seat which I don’t like some will stick with my 2012 700.
you can change the rider modes as your riding 😊 and in sports mode I found it had plenty of go to over take, in standard mode being good I got 90 mile to the gallon 😁. a great bike for a all year rounder and daily commuter.
I drive the predecessor the NC700S. It had two owners before me and almost 50 000km on the clock and it still runs like it just left the bike-shop. The NC is a great bike if you just want to go out and ride and ride and ride. Nothing you would choose if you need speed and want to do quick overtakes but it will certainly be able to pass a tractor or some other slower vehicle with no problem. Never had an issue with overtaking cyclists on the spot or anything like that. The storage in the front is just fantastic. Especially for a beginner you can just put all your stuff in there and go on a ride without buying some bags, paniers or wearing a rucksack. :-)
Had one of these a couple of years ago, my flip helmet at the time easily went in. As you say they all vary. Fuel consumption was excellent I agree... pottering around the lanes here in the Lake District it would easily do 85-90mpg! It also had the optional centre stand and aftermarket heated grips. Interesting review 👍
I am pleased that you made the effort to discuss the DCT. I have an older 700 model with the DCT. It is wonderful for in-town riding. You might also mention that the DCT has lower rear-end gearing than the earlier non-DCT versions. The lower gearing results in lower engine speed and easier touring. The engine tuning produces adequate torque at very low engine speed. I spend most trips at 2,500 to 3,000 RPM. Amazing!
I owned the 2013 NC700X and now the 2024 NC750X. If I could do it again, I would go for the 2013 model. It was a little narrower, a little lighter, had a great HALOGEN headlight, and the suspension was wonderful, floating over bumps where the newer NC750's suspension transfers every tiny pebble to my spine.
I agree with your comments. I fitted a centre stand, heated grips and a taller screen and I'm really pleased with mine. Easy to lower as well for us shorties. Good balanced review.
@@richardmcnally540 . The two links that connect the bottom of the rear shock to the frame can be swapped out with replacements that lower the bike. It's just a couple of bolts. Lust Links sell them in various lengths. I lowered mine 30mm and 10mm at the front to balance it up. There are UA-cam videos that walk you through it but really is a straight forward job. After lowered the bike will be too upright on the side stand and very difficult to heave up onto the centre stand if you have one. I swapped both of mine for stands from the 'S' model which are shorter.
I have the new 2023 model and I can for my full face AGV Helmet in the storage- also you can change the riding mode while driving- just throttle off and select the mode , it will flash then continue with throttle. It’s a fabulous bike!
I think you nailed it (as have others) by saying this is a do it all bike. Whether you choose manual or dct there are not many bikes that you can commute on, take touring with hard panniers, room for a passenger, weekend blast thru the twisties due to its low center of gravity (tmf used one on his canary island tour) ability to pick up some shopping or takeaway in the frunk (fuel tank space), good fuel economy even if you ride it hard, servicing every 12,000kms / 8000 miles and all for a decent price and in the Netherlands all Hondas come with a 5 year warranty. And btw - with dct you will beat virtually everything away from the lights
and if you want to service the valves yourself, just unbolt the radiator and you have clear access to the valves 🙌 they are simple lock nut adjusters, no shims to size and order 👍 some dude in thailand has over 250 000 kilometers on his, durable engine 😲
interesting to hear that Honda Netherlands offer 5 year warranty compared to UK which is a measly 2 year warranty, even BMW here offer 3 years so that's mean from Honda UK.
Most things have been said about the 750x dct, but i have a tip about the selectable user mode in the rider modes so i set the power on full the engine braking set to half traction control complettley off and drivability set to full on, this gives a ride similar to sport mode but without the on off engine braking and the gearing seams to change much later and 6th gear will select which it won't in sport mode, i have settled on these settings and use them mostly.
I have the '21 model on a '22 plate, I also got the showroom pack with topbox, centrestand, side pipes, fog lights and charging port in the frunk, got the panniers as well, strangely as they are £1008 addition. I must add the the OEM fog lights add soo much light at night, they really do make a difference, without them night riding would be a lot harder. Also modes can be changed on the move by simply rolling off the throttle. You mentioned the mode left is picked back up upon start up, I may be missing something but my always starts in standard no matter what I left her in. Keep up the good work.
I had this bike for 5 Years and commuted every day. Most reliable and very versiatile with the front storage. I put a touring screen on and was perfect for long journeys. Traded in for the NT 1100 hopefully I like it as much in a few years time. Great Video
Just a couple things left out were assessments of the suspension and pillion comfort. I could easily see a day out with a friend and side cases, and that inevitable itch when presented with some twisties! Great review. Great choice if you ride daily and need to count on it, or if you have a more "emotional" bike in the garage that will only give you a couple of comfy hours in the saddle. Thanks!
I own a 68 reg DCT and absolutely love it, they must have changed the luggage space capacity as mine easily takes a full face lid, mine also has slotted rails on the tank storage for a tank bag, that seems to have been removed from the newer versions, lucky the previous owner added a centre stand which is well worth having
The most balanced review so far on the NC750X. For reference, the Revzilla review was a joke, basically expecting the NC to be like a loud pipe monster. 🤨 I own the 2020 DCT model. I absolutely love it. Great bike for all the reasons you mentioned. I will add one pro and one con. Pro - The NC has a 210kg max payload which makes riding with a pillion or a lot of luggage a breeze. Con - Because of the gas tank under the pillion seat, virtually all soft luggage systems (e.g. Mosko Moto) is a nuisance. You have to detach it every time you need to fill up. So, you are forced to get a system with racks so you don't end up with straps over or under the pillion. Even with this con, the bike is amazing. Thanks again for the good review.
Another fantastic, well-differentiated, client-focussed review of a VERY popular bike for good reason. You covered all of the critical aspects concisely & to such a degree, I feel like a very well-informed prospect about to confidently buy an NC & make his first street bike purchase in 40 years. My last ride was a Honda 125 dirt bike that I had as a kid. Anyway, I just got an itch that I need to scratch. Speaking of itchy, really enjoyed your interview of Noraly Shoemaker (a.k.a. Itchy Boots), and would love to see more of that kind of stuff on your channel. Charly Sinewan, another worldwide motorcycle traveller & her temporary riding partner in El Salvador, I think would make for a fantastic interview at some point in the future. Just a thought.
Had one as a loan bike for a few weeks. Really good all round great review as always. I managed to get my large shoei in the ”tank" storage without any problem..really practical bike
I have some arthritis in my left hand which makes using the clutch lever on conventional bikes a little painful. Purchasing my 2017 NC750 DCT has meant that long term ownership and riding is now possible. I have no problem with the amount of power the bike makes, as already stated, the sport modes are quite brisk enough. The seat and rear shock were dreadful so I fitted a shad seat (now discontinued) and a Nitron shock. Although expensive the Nitron has transformed the bike, it just glides over the bumps. The forks are, I think, quite adequate. As TMF said, it's very easy to move the bike in and out of the garage and seat height suits my 5' 8" frame. I saw the new NC750 at the London show in February and liked the improvement that Honda (at last) have incorporated.
Totally agree with your choice of replacement shock 👍. I had a Nitron fitted to my Versys 650 and it transformed the comfort and handling. The initial outlay is a lot, but according to Nitron the rebuild cost (when it's time) is less than £100 and you wouldn't even get a new OEM shock for that much - and they aren't serviceable either 👍.
Another reviewer (Moss on Knox) changed the rear, but also swapped in progressive front springs and it was a revelation. If on a budget, front springs first!
I agree with your comments. I have a 2012 700X and the lights are crap at night - definitely not one for high speed riding on unlit rural roads. A centre stand is a must - Honda want £150+ as an aftermarket accessory. The previous owner had fitted handguards and heated grips and a taller Honda screen. I fitted a variable Puig flip-up extension as I am 6 foot. Keeps all the wind off well. MPG as you say should be in the 80's unless you are redlining everywhere and riding like a complete eejit. I guess you will achieve better fuel consumption when the engine gets properly bedded in. As for touring, going on my first next weekend to Southern Ireland. 20kg is the max loading, 5kg each pannier and 10kg in the top box. Plus of course the wonderful 'frunk' as the Americans will call the front storage space. I just wish mine had DCT
My experience from 9 months ownership. Buying the centre stand and extra light kit makes it far more practical. You can change mode on the move by just shutting the throttle after you select the mode. I get about 150 miles before the warning fuel low level comes on, average consumption is low 70s. Touring with throw overs is a pain because you have to take them off to fill up. Seat is good for about 200 miles then gets a bit bum ache. My Rpha70 fits in the frunk no problem. I have the manual version, clutch action is light as is the gearbox no false neutrals, clutch lever lacks adjuster though. A good practical everyday bike which is exactly why I bought it. Nice review.
Just discovered you today as I'm researching this bike for my next purchase, and I thoroughly enjoyed your videos. I think I may just get myself one of these! Subscribed and look forward to exploring your library.
You don't have to stop, just roll off the throttle for a changed driving mode to take effect. I like the seat on my 2022 which, I think must have been significantly improved relative to 2019 and earlier models. I agree about the missing ambiant air temperature gauge being a disappointment - also no engine coolant temperature display - just a hot warning light. I think you mentioned this, but having the driving mode reset to standard whenever the bike is turned off is a bit of a niggle for me. A pleasant surprise is that the trip A milage, fuel consumption and time all reset automatically when you fill up the tank. I have about 700 miles on mine, have kept exact fuel consumption records and have averaged 63.73 miles per US gallon so far. I think this is almost exactly what you reported. As always, thanks very much for your excellent and entertaining reviews.
Thank you for your detailed review. I had an NC750X 2016 manual model - great bike and it was exactly as you described. The only two things were quite different - the LCD had a night mode and was automatically switching into it when it was getting dark. And the seat was very uncomfortable - I upgraded it twice, first time with a Shad comfort seat and second time with a custom seat - it felt better than with a stock seat, but still not good enough for me (I am 6'1"). The problem is that the seat is inclined forward and it makes you slide forward so you have to readjust constantly. I could not ride this bike for longer than an hour and this was the reason I sold it. Got a CBF1000F now and it has not got this problem at all.
Excellent review, i think it's a bike us older riders can appreciate as well. Don't forget old age doesn't come alone! I'm 60 & probably in need of knee surgery so the low center of gravity makes it an attractive proposition as does the DCT if it means we can ride for longer. Also don't forget it has screw & lock nut valve adjustment, that combined with accessibility of the engine ticks one more box for servicing costs if you're a home mechanic.
Tks TMF, another good review, and if I was going to change my bike in the near future, this would be pretty high on my list. Seems to fit the bill for me personally. Also, I'm leaning towards the DCT idea, old age and arthritis in my hands catching up very quickly haha. Keep up the good work.
An admirable review! A few things. I have a 2018 NC750X standard clutch that I have put 22,000 miles on so far. I've done ALL maintenance for the motorcycle to date, including valve lash. This bike is a DIY owners dream come true! Plenty of power to obtain a ticket on any road in America, but you can't overtake quickly at our highway speeds 70mph or so, but these are multi lane, so no big deal. Fuel economy is very effected by how I operate it, anything from 63-81 US MPG. Pushing more air costs more fuel. I looked at the new NC750X 2021, 2022 and find it smaller than it's former model? It seemed to be a little more cramped. It's a fantastic motorcycle none the less. BTW, the 2018 has a full color dash, not sure why Honda went backwards on that. Almost forgot, there are VERY few farkles for this bike. My 18 has all QD SW Motech carriers, side and tail, and Madstad wind screen.
I had a 700X DCT followed by a 750 version. Great bikes, that I found I appreciated more and more as I got to know them. If I were younger I’d have another in a heartbeat. Thanks for a very informative review.
I think this is a bike that will in time become a classic. Us older folk are looking for comfort and ease of use, and I just think that this bike makes biking more accessible to more people… I think I will test ride one myself 🤔
@@applecorp yeah, for me that is also an issue. I am just waiting to ride the new kymco ak 550 ST. I am into my scooters these days. But I also like this type of bike.
@@applecorp I have the Forza 350 👍 but want something with a little more pep and better suspension for 2 up riding. So that is why I am looking at the kymco. Will probably keep the 350 as well. I really love it.
@@applecorp I have a Burgmann 400 and a Tiger 800. Despite the scoot having only one third of the Tiger's HP, my 30 mile commute takes the same on either machine. Thus the modest power of the NC750 may be less exciting than some machines, but I'm sure that it is more efficient then most!
if you were to use this bike for touring, you'd obviously use the 'frunk' but I imagine solo riders would want to strap bags, tents etc. to the pillion seat (to save lugging a top box). Relocating the fuel filler, accessed via a side panel 'flap' would be a neat feature.
Agree with you about the DCT, really good. You can change the modes whilst riding by switching and then roll off the throttle to engage. I am 6' 1" and found the bike a tiny bit small but not a deal breaker. Very easy to ride in traffic, lane splitting is easy. Handling very good. I love having the fuel tank where it is as it is easier to fill up, but where to put the cap? It is fast enough for me not being a speed freak, but I do like a bike that goes fairly quickly when needs must. I found I could not hear the horn with ear plugs in, having said that I do have mild hearing loss. When the microwave beeps I cant hear it and its pretty loud. I can hear my Transalp horn though. Thinking of trading in my bike, but waiting to see if they update the NC750x dash & other stuff this year as they have with the CB500x/NX500 Very good review as always, honest and not afraid to like or dislike.
Just a few comments based on your review. I can fit my helmet in the box, carefully. I recommend getting heated grips and hand guards. I am a short ass female rider but the height on the new model is great for me. My only issue is that I also have small hands, so I had to adjust the brake lever to the max to benefit from using it. It’s very easy to push the throttle when trying to break because I have small hands, try to use the rear brake instead if possible and in traffic. You can change from auto to manual as you ride, ease off the throttle and switch to manual.
Nice review, Mr Flyer. I've had my 2022 DCT since January and agree with most of your review, although I do have a couple of points that differ. First.....that saddle - whoever designed it should be made to ride it all day every day till the end comes, which won't be long. Second, the weird Checking of the Oil Ceremony. Honda says the bike must be upright and level, and unless you have a partner to hold it, that means putting it on the centerstand with a block to prop the front wheel. Very odd! Next, the position of the horn and turn signal buttons. At least once a day, I hit the darned horn instead of the turn signals. You mentioned it yourself and so have others. I've had no problems with fitting any of my helmets in the frunk, but I wear a medium. As to the MIA center stand and heated grips and cruise control..... (makes the rubbing fingers gesture indicating greedy corporate philandering). Finally, the cable that opens the rear saddle to give access to the fuel filler came adrift! I could not remove either saddle and have had to bring it to the dealer for service. Even THEY couldn't get it off and had to call Honda in Japan, who also had no procedure. Apparently, mine is now a test case for Honda. Ha! Notoriety at last!
I have the 2017 model it now has 55000 miles on the clock it's still getting 80mpg no problems 👍. To sort out the wind issue I took the screen off its much better without
OK I am sure some has written this, but just in case, YES you can change the riding modes on the go, just change it and close the throttle, and will change from Sport/Road/Rain/user. And it always goes to Standard after you turn it off. I know not all helmets fit, but my Schubert's C3/C4 and Nolan N105 all fit. But then I live with one, great reviews keep up the good work
After 4 years and 30,000 kms, my NC still is a great ride. My only head scratcher is having to change the air filter is a bit of a chore. Something like 18 screws and rivets to take out. Fortunately, UA-cam has some great demos on how to do it.
I have the 2024 model. The first thing I did after riding it home was read the manual front to back. I don't see how anyone can properly review a bike (or anything) without reading the manual. There are many nuances that become apparent after reading the manual. I will agree the headlight throw is disappointing. Cleaning/lubing the chain is much easier if the chainguard is removed by undoing the two allen screws. I did own the 2013 model NC700X years ago, the 750cc models are considerably 'fatter'.
Which is why as a one bike owner I brought one! And added Oxford heated grips/ a centre stand/ top screen deflector/ Denali sound bomb/ rear hugger/ radiator guard, now perfect for me/ especially with every increasing fuel costs? You will not get a 750cc with better fuel consumption? Good review! As you said not brilliant at one thing but a great all rounder!!
As an A2 license holder I got myself a Svartpilen 401, most beautiful motorcycle I´ve ever seen. But there is a part of me that would really fancy the Forza or X-ADV 750 as my next bike. I sat on the Forza before and it is a perfect fit for my 6´1`` body, extremely comfy but due to the DCT you can enjoy some shifting when you want to. Just throw some additional storage and an aftermarket exhaust on there and you´ve got the ultimate commute/tour/fun vehicle...
I totally agree. The bike is great, except for running during the night. The head light is not what it should be. First time I stopped the bike to check f the light was on.
Once again, a great review, I had to wait two months for my NT 1100, in this time I looked at the NC quite closely, because I could have had it immediately, although I am glad that I waited for the NT, I did find the NC quite nice. The NT 1100 by the way, is a dream. Look forward to your next upload, have fun and ride safe.
Had a look at the NT1100 at the Lyon motorbike show. Beautiful bike and I'm very tempted! How do you find the controls on the left handgrip? Not too many or too complex?
@@simonthomas5367 once you realise that the up and down buttons change the riding Mode it's actually quite easy, everything else, apart from the indicators aren't really essential, I do have the manual gearbox with Quickshifter though, that's a few buttons less. I love it.
Understated bike as you say, thanks for the headlights and rain review. I am considering one for commuting, touring and weekend jaunts and replacing the 2 bikes I have. Bikes are not cheap to run and not economical, but this is a step in the right sirection.
Love your channel. My 2014 NC700 will accept my helmet and has a handy bracket under the pillion seat to secure it when I need to stuff my jacket in the frunk. I also have a 2016 Triumph Trophy and a 1999 HD Super Glide (a must if you live in Wisconsin 150 miles from HD HQ) but the NC is the bike I ride the most.
Very interesting do it all bike. No center stand 👎🏼 Oil dipstick 👎🏼 Tank storage 👍🏼👍🏼 Not very thirsty 👍🏼👍🏼 Luggage capacity 👍🏼 Wider taller screen needed I think Heated grips not standard 👎🏼
Thanks for the review. Just thought I'd mention what I think is something that could be improved is the lack of a decent sized mudguard at the front. We definitely need one when we ride in the UK! I fitted a fender extender to mine but I suppose a lot of these bikes are sold in warmer, drier countries which you did mention with regard to the heated grips.
Another incisive, balanced and entertaining review - thanks. Two suggestions for your “practicalities” segment: 1. keeping the bike clean. How well protected is the bike from road muck? How easy it to clean? 2. cost of standard accessories - radiator protector, centre stand, heated grips, luggage…..? So many manufacturers sales strategies involve highlighting the top-line price of their bikes and then fleecing their customers on “extras” - take a bow in particular BMW and Triumph.
@@TheMissendenFlyer I appreciate that the hassle of cleaning is not helped by the added faff of filming. It would be enough just to show how bikes look after being ridden in the rain.
Hello Andy, another well structured review, and I must say I'm with you with this bike, I really can't understand why so many bikers sneer at this bike, for the price it's amazing value cheap to run, and it's an Honda...
The NC750X is possibly the best bike that Honda makes, and undoubtedly one of the best bikes on sale today. When Honda launched the NC700 in 2012 it didn't look revolutionary, but it was. Such an amazingly well-rounded, practical and economical motorcycle. And why more companies haven't copied the tank helmet storage baffles me, it's 100% brilliant.
Nice review. Fog lights are essential if you often drive in rural areas at night. Otherwise, the illumination is far too poor. Doesn't seem to have improved much on the current model. I like my 2020 model, but the LED-headlight is really a shame, Honda.
Good in depth review of a thoroughly interesting bike Andy😉i do wish all bikes had that clever tank storage area, very handy for delicate shopping stuff👌
Hi, you can get a full face lid in the tank area.My lift up Showa XXL goes in no problem been commuting up to London for many years and this is my 2nd NC750X.. It’s touted as the new Deauville by Honda and yes the DTC is perfect with the 750 lump 👍
That's very kind of you Gary thank you .....it's Easter you say?!! Crikey.....one day is the same as the next to me!!! (that's not a complaint by the way)....
I have the 2015 model and I have had 3 different branded full helmets in, one of which was flip fronted and all are large. Love it as a do it all bike. I get the speed comment from sportsbike riders. If you want to race off the lights its not the bike for you but to ride at normal speeds theres no issues. Will happily get you to 70mph+ at a reasonable speed and gives confidence when overtaking with plenty more to give
I have the 2015 NC700X DCT. It’s a great bike for long distance riding too. Very comfortable riding position and plenty of power out on the freeway. Good in the wind also
The NC700 (previous generation), replaced the NT700, Deauville, with it’s shaft drive. Presented as the practical replacement. Much was made of it’s fuel economy. They used to say that it had “half a Honda Jazz (Fit USA) engine”. The NT700 Deauville was a bullet proof work horse and it was a shame to see the mid-range shaft drive go. Having said that, these NC750s are staying the course and seem very popular as a mid-range good all-rounder bikes. I expect MRA Vario windshields might be an improvement.
I agree, despite being mocked by the biking press, the Deauville was an impressive and as you say, bullet proof bike. It should have been developed not taken off the market. I'd prefer a shaft drive over a DCT any day.
@@stevetaylor8698 - yes. I passed my advanced on the NT650. The NT700 went part exchange for a ST1300 (PAN), also now extinct. It is the NT700 that i miss more though. Now as I get older our tourer is a 900 and my fun bike is a 350.
as others have said, a great all-rounder, a thinking persons bike, no rocket ship but practical and frugal, which is very welcome now days. 90mpg isn't difficult out of town and on a gentle throttle, single front disc more than adequate adds to low running costs, big service intervals and easy valve checking/adjustment add to the low cost of ownership. an unsung hero and a very good do it all type of bike.
Thanks for this review, TMF. I think I am going to get one (from 2016 to 2020 model due to the seat being higher) as a general run about bike. The DCT in traffic and the very low center of gravity are what swayed me. Btw, Honda went a bit weird with seat heights on this bike. The original NC700X had a seat height of 795 mm, then from 2016 to 2020 the NC750X went up to 830 mm and from 2021 it went down to 800 mm again. I've seen a number of people complaining about legs being cramped on this bike and it must be due to the various models being all over the place.
Are used to own a 2014 NC 700 X DCT and with Michelin tires it was great I never had problems in the rain it was just as you say grader on the city easy to maneuver my biggest Cueto it was a little busy and vibrating once you get on the highway and the vibrations could just be very annoying but I owned it for seven years and put 64,000 miles on it driving around the USA and I enjoyed my time with it. I have heard that the new 750 X DCT is better and it’s smoother
You just gave me greater appreciation of the lit switch gear on my Tiger 1200. Funny what you take for granted on your own bike. Looked like a great all a rounder though!
Another great review! You'd think Honda would get the message about centre stands and at the very least make one a factory option (will not affect quoted mass) Poor lighting pretty much inexcusable in this day and age. I can only surmise styling compromised design efficiency. The dash seems really low-rent in this day and age, but as an urban commuter the bike is largely unmatched. I've never met anyone who can fit anything later than a small fullface into the locker.
I have a 2022 on order here in Thailand, even though there are a couple of changes I'd like to see. First is an option to have the rear brake moved to the left hand where the clutch would normally be. After riding a scooter for the last few months, I'm a fan of being able to put both feet on the ground when stopped while having either hand available for adjustments. Also would love to have a belt drive.
Great review as always...especially the living with series, really helps. I purchased a 2022 last year, you can change the riding mode while riding (just need to close the throttle) and atleast on mine, it resets to Standard everytime I switch off the bike...maybe it's a setting I need to change
Great review. I've owned the related and higher spec Forza 750 for several years now. Overall, a fabulous bike. So many good qualities, comfort, very easy to ride, economical, and cruises well even at speed. I just wish it had another 15 horsepower to improve overtaking ability, especially with a pillion. The 2025 updates make all the NC related bikes better. Shame there wasn't a bit more power though! Mind you, the bottom end of the rev range is far stronger than the ultimately faster Transalp. What price a 850 version?
I have taken the Center stand of 1 off my bikes and other 2 didn’t have them I invested in a Canadian made SNAP JACK ! fantastic compact peace of kit . I rotate on all my bikes to lube the chains and take it on tours ( you should check out they have U tube vids on in ) as I’m in Australia just the postage cost was a killer .
Excellent review and as a previous owner of the 2021 NC750 I would agree that it is a good looking, practical, economical all round motorcycle with a peppy engine. Just one correction, riding modes can be changed on the go, you only have to shut the throttle momentarily for it to change. However, there is a reason why I am an ex owner. Firstly, I don’t know if it was just my bike, or whether it is typical, but after six months of ownership some of the finishes, particularly on the exhaust silencer, were deteriorating badly. The main problem I had however, was with Honda’s Customer Services. I won’t go into the details, other than to say that when issues arose Honda’s response was to deny any responsibility and blame me. Sadly, from what I have read on the internet, mine is not an isolated instance. So, my conclusion would be a good all-rounder, let down by some quality issues and dreadful after sales support from Honda.
As a Honda man, it pains me to say it, but they are very badly finished. Loads of mild steel which will rust in the plain air. The ABS ring will be brown in a year or two for all year round riding. Terrible paint finish on the engine cases but then it is a budget bike.
I believe these bikes are made in Thailand along with the 500 line of Honda bikes here in Canada ....all have the same quality issues and Honda is no help at all with warranty issues..
@@louielewis5209 that’s it, yes. I’ve had three Thai built Hondas and one Japanese and they vary enormously. A well looked after bike shouldn’t be so hard to keep corrosion at bay. A majority of Triumph bikes are made in Thailand now and I’ve see variable quality with those too.
Great review Andy, I've just sold my fjr as finding it a bit to heavy to lug around out of the shed & seriously thinking of getting an nc750x to replace it.
The dash RGB LED thing. You can change it to "ECO" mode instead and it will show you how efficient you are being with the motion lotion. Green and blue are good, amber and red are bad :) I believe it also does "RPM" mode where it goes from blue, green, amber, red, flashing red etc. I have the manual and the RAIN mode is awesome to play around in, even if it's not raining. When the bike is cold and the throttle response lumpy, RAIN mode smooths your inputs out so you don't have to be as delicate with it in 1st while it warms up. As it smooths things out, it also allows you to do odd stuff like ride at 30mph in 6th at 1,500 rpm. Because the throttle is softened so much it makes managing the lugging easier allowing you to apply the tiniest smooth throttle input to add a smidge of power without vibrating the practically idling bike. As to how much fun factor it has, in 1st, 2nd and 3rd in sport mode it can definitely "hoon" about. 0-60 isn't that bad, faster than 99% of the cars on the road. In 3rd it will get to 80mph, but that is where all the fun ends. 4th is a big step up and while it will still accelerate in the power band you have to wait and wait and wait to get to 5th and the ton about the red line, then ... well, to be honest with you, I gave up and decided seeing how long it took to get any faster wasn't worth my license or an accident while trying. Coming from a CBF1000, basically a sport tourer version of the Fireblade the comparison in power... basically in 1st, 2nd, 3rd the NC750X when floored at around 4,200 RPM will kick you in the ass in a similar fashion and get off down the road initially in a similar fashion. Then it changes completely becuase while the CBF1000 would just keep on pulling and pulling and pulling all the way to 10k RPM and only then be grudge a gear change at 50mph, 2nd will pull all the way to 70 in one big flat torque curve. The NC750x runs out of puff rapidly over 6000k (as any big twin does really). So it's useful rev range is much shorter. It doesn't even reward rev'ing it out in a gear, the last 1,500 to the red line is just a slowly sagging torque curve of disappointment. But... we didn't buy it to be a sports tourer thankfully. It's easier to ride, lighter, easier on the back, not always trying to kill you in the wet. More comfortable and practice and the CBF if I drove like an angel I got 55MPG. If I drove like I stole it I got 48MPG. I could nearly get that out of my 2 litre sports car! The NC750X doesn't go below 70MPG average and I've sent it as high as 110MPG on a practical trip.
Good review Andy, this is a bike I keep coming back to as a possible buy because it seems so practical, shame that the 'Frunk' could not hold a helmet, as this is one reason I would buy. One big negative for me would be no centrestand, but it is possible to buy one as an 'extra'.
I get my Shoei helmet in the frunk easily. Incidentally I recently did a trip from South Warwickshire to Lymington via the M40/A34/M3/M27. The traffic was very light (no doubt due to me leaving at 05:00am) and I was happy to tootle along at 60mph. The NC was showing 108.4mpg when I made my first stop in Brockenhurst. On my return I did 'make progress' and it returned 78mpg.
I am lucky enough to own 3 bikes, but if I could only have 1, it would 100% be the NC. It is the most practical motorcycle I have ever owned in 43 years of riding.
My 750x manual was one of the first 750's in the uk ( 2014) fitted yss valves in the forks the early bike's had hard forks, heated grips and lower rear links ( 30 mm), and modified the cluch leaver to make it lighter to pull and i get 80+ mpg down to 76 mpg on motorway at 85+ mph . At 72 with arthritis this bike will last me to the end of my riding days ,
Hired the manual on my resent holiday in madiera. It surprised me . Iv owned several machines . And it's made me realise that a bike don't need to be a speed machine to be great fun . A practical bike can be fun . What an amazing bike honda as made there . Its perfect for that every day all round commuter. . Great review
I have a 21 manual and I love it. Toured 2 up with wife on the back no problem. I would not part with it. Great fuel economy and it puts a smile on my face. Put it in sport mode and you can have fun in the twisties . Mines a keeper.
Did you try the DCT as well as the manual before your bought the bike?
@@newmp1961 yeah I tried the dct and it was impressive but I just preferred the manual.
Have you ever rode a vstrom 650? If so how would you compare it?
@@keldonator no I haven't tried a vstrom.
Hi Karl, how did you find this being 2 up as that’s why I’m currently looking at one but unsure how well it holds up.
Thanks
After ankle surgery i sold my bikes at 63 yrs old. However, my itch became itchier without a bike. So i tested most 600-900cc bikes. I wanted something comfortable because of my skeletal issues. This was the only bike i rode more than twice and after a 9 month absence bought this same bike. I ve owned 47 bikes in my life. I can honestly say i cant keep off it. Living rurally i recently visited my daughters in central Birmingham, got very lost but riding this around the city in Dct was an absolute joy. It will cruise at well over the legal limits and feels quick off the line. Its hyper comfy for me at 6’1”. I drive mine in permanent sport mode at its average on the computer 83mpg, i ve not done a tank to tank calculation. I have fitted a centre stand a criminal omission, radiator guard, hugger, fender extender and heated grips…it doesnt have the raw thrill of say. Z900rs but i am totally in love with this bike, i just want to ride it all the time. I think the performance is more than adequate and it keeps up with the guys i ride with. My only complaints are the bike resets its mode everytime you stop the engine and i think the suspension is rubbishly cheap but does its job. I will be addressing this as i love the bike so much. I would also like some luggage and when you add up all these extras its not such a cheap bike. However its a supremely competent machine. You can change riding modes on the fly and indeed use the flappy paddles for engine braking without changing anything
Nice thorough review cheers
I have a 2019 NC750X on loan from my insurance company, and what a great, but under rated little bike it is. I often read the words ‘boring and slow’, but in reality it’s easily quick enough for the roads, the low centre of gravity makes the bike feel more agile than it ought to be, and it sounds good to boot, all while sipping fuel, this one does 85mpg everywhere!
85mpg? You must have been thrashing it. I regularly got 99.9mpg from mine...
The helmet storage works better if you take the toolkit out! Mine was the same from new, the toolkit is not seated neatly in it's little slot, so prevents the helmet dropping fully down into the compartment. Remove toolkit retry. I found you can get the toolkit in much neater and still get an Arai XCess large in.
At 17:27 you got it backward. I own a manual transmission 2021 version of this bike. You can change the riding mode while riding it. First change the riding mode, say from standard to rain, close the throttle for a sec, re apply the throttle. The whole process takes 3 sec. Also, when you restart the engine, it always defaults to standard mode. It does not remember the last mode you were in. I have set the user mode to Max. Engine-Brake, 2/3 HP, Max Traction-Control. I'd like to use brakes less and engine brake more to control the flow of my movement as much as possible. Thanks a lot for the video.
I owned the original NC700X, and have since tested the 750S and 750X. The engine is nice and low revving, the storage was very handy (I could often go out without any luggage attached) and the newer DCT is much better than on my 700. Some quirks or annoyances I had were; most uncomfortable seat on any bike I’ve owned (no padding, too narrow, nasty slope that pushes you toward the tank), although I believe an aftermarket seats could resolve this, the low revving nature means there’s virtually no engine braking so you use the brakes a lot more, which are rather wooden and under-powered (even the Cb500X has 2 discs up front), the fuel cap really should be on the outside of the bike like the BMW F800 series - if you pack something on the back seat you have to remove it to fill up, plus the fuel cap just comes off. The fuel economy is good but I get exactly the same on my 750GS, with 20hp and 20Nm torque extra, which highlights this bike’s real downside - it just doesn’t have quite enough go. It’s very popular with couriers as its bulletproof but it’s not as much of a bargain compared to when it was first released (mine was £5350 new for reference) and I feel there are better options out there for an everyday bike. However, Honda should get kudos for making a bike that riders can own who cannot use clutch and gears due to disability.
I frequently achieved 100mpg on my 2015 NC750-X DCT. The NC is only slow compared to other bikes. It is way faster than the majority of cars.
I would like to see Honda give it either shaft or belt drive and cruise control. Sure, it would be more expensive, but I reckon lots of people would be happy to pay for it...
@@BibtheBoulder Really? They had DCT in 2015? I had thought that a little more recent than that but I could be wrong. I get the idea of reliability with belt or shaft drive and the quiet and less maintenance; and I have it on on my big cruiser; but on a bike where my riding might have me wanting to be able to alter my gearing for lower 1st gear not for more power but for slower speed I still like to be able to choose what I want as this is meant to be a adventure bike not just a roady.
M H: Interesting how different people like different things. I appreciate why you and many others would like to see more power and higher RPM on this bike but for me the high torque more relaxed engine is the exact reason I like it most. More than most other bikes of similar or near similar capacity. Also the low weight due to engine layout and the type of valve adjustments rather than shims. Sadly This year Honda decided to no longer sell this bike in my country. Time to go with another dealer for a different bike I guess. Someone who wants to sell bikes.
The NC is a great bike and has provided me with everything I have needed for the last nine months. There are a few minor issues that you have addressed which I think arise as it has been built to allow a low price point. No side stand and heated grips are the most obvious and the dash display does not match TFT’s on models that costs thousands more. The DCT is wonderful to use and of course the paddles enable instant manual switching which I don’t recall you highlighting (sorry if you did and I wasn’t paying enough attention). Quick overtaking is easy enough to do that way. I has some issues with the screen which I cured with a £15.00 universal screen extender from the web. It is a doddle to move around and as you say appears much lighter than its actual weight due to the low centre of gravity. It does everything well and nothing badly. A true unsung hero in my eyes.
It has a side stand!
@@andrewgent9334 I think he meant centre stand.
Just found your channel about 15 minutes ago. I'm from Oklahoma in the USA and I appreciate your channel!
Had two NC's over the years. Both were 750 "S" models. I note that Honda dropped the S in favour of a lower seat height on the X. The reduction in suspension travel to allow for this won't affect any "off road" pretensions of the NC so that was a master stroke. My 2016 model had gears but I opted for dct for the 2018 version. I must say, the halogen headlight on the earlier model was excellent compared to the 2016 and it sounds like a good old "bulb" still makes sense sometimes? Excellent bikes though and I'd heartily recommend the NC to anyone who needs practicality, comfort and economy. The rather early rev limit of the earlier models takes you by surprise the first time you hit it (manual transmission obviously) but Honda have gradually increased this a bit over the years too. Another thing worthy of note is that it's a great bike for DIY servicing. The valve clearences are quite easy to do - being of a screwdriver and lock nut design 👍. The radiator has to be moved out of the way to access the valve cover but that's it. Taken, that the mileage intervals for this will likely coincide with a bi-annual cooling system refresh it's also handy.
I own a 2012 700 XD DCT, I bought it used in dec 2016 with 400 miles at $5200 and it had loads of options. I have really enjoyed this bike it does everything I want and gets great mileage. I considered trading up to a 750 but found that they lowered the seat which I don’t like some will stick with my 2012 700.
I have a 2016 manual version. A great bike. I commute 80 miles on it to work on main roads. The trip on mine shows a very frugal 96 mpg!
my drz is jealous. cant give up the on road off road ability tho
you can change the rider modes as your riding 😊 and in sports mode I found it had plenty of go to over take, in standard mode being good I got 90 mile to the gallon 😁.
a great bike for a all year rounder and daily commuter.
I drive the predecessor the NC700S. It had two owners before me and almost 50 000km on the clock and it still runs like it just left the bike-shop. The NC is a great bike if you just want to go out and ride and ride and ride. Nothing you would choose if you need speed and want to do quick overtakes but it will certainly be able to pass a tractor or some other slower vehicle with no problem. Never had an issue with overtaking cyclists on the spot or anything like that. The storage in the front is just fantastic. Especially for a beginner you can just put all your stuff in there and go on a ride without buying some bags, paniers or wearing a rucksack. :-)
Had one of these a couple of years ago, my flip helmet at the time easily went in. As you say they all vary. Fuel consumption was excellent I agree... pottering around the lanes here in the Lake District it would easily do 85-90mpg! It also had the optional centre stand and aftermarket heated grips. Interesting review 👍
Andy only got 63 mpg 😳 he must be doing something very wrong 👍🏼
I am pleased that you made the effort to discuss the DCT. I have an older 700 model with the DCT. It is wonderful for in-town riding.
You might also mention that the DCT has lower rear-end gearing than the earlier non-DCT versions. The lower gearing results in lower engine speed and easier touring. The engine tuning produces adequate torque at very low engine speed. I spend most trips at 2,500 to 3,000 RPM. Amazing!
I owned the 2013 NC700X and now the 2024 NC750X. If I could do it again, I would go for the 2013 model. It was a little narrower, a little lighter, had a great HALOGEN headlight, and the suspension was wonderful, floating over bumps where the newer NC750's suspension transfers every tiny pebble to my spine.
I agree with your comments. I fitted a centre stand, heated grips and a taller screen and I'm really pleased with mine. Easy to lower as well for us shorties.
Good balanced review.
Simon Bowden , how are they lowered ?
@@richardmcnally540 . The two links that connect the bottom of the rear shock to the frame can be swapped out with replacements that lower the bike. It's just a couple of bolts. Lust Links sell them in various lengths. I lowered mine 30mm and 10mm at the front to balance it up. There are UA-cam videos that walk you through it but really is a straight forward job. After lowered the bike will be too upright on the side stand and very difficult to heave up onto the centre stand if you have one. I swapped both of mine for stands from the 'S' model which are shorter.
Id be interested to know how you lowered it, too. Thanks!
The rear suspension is lowered by buying after market shorter dog bone links for the rear suspension linkage.
I have the new 2023 model and I can for my full face AGV Helmet in the storage- also you can change the riding mode while driving- just throttle off and select the mode , it will flash then continue with throttle. It’s a fabulous bike!
Thanks for sharing
Can’t believe how much I’m obsessed with this bike.
I think you nailed it (as have others) by saying this is a do it all bike. Whether you choose manual or dct there are not many bikes that you can commute on, take touring with hard panniers, room for a passenger, weekend blast thru the twisties due to its low center of gravity (tmf used one on his canary island tour) ability to pick up some shopping or takeaway in the frunk (fuel tank space), good fuel economy even if you ride it hard, servicing every 12,000kms / 8000 miles and all for a decent price and in the Netherlands all Hondas come with a 5 year warranty.
And btw - with dct you will beat virtually everything away from the lights
and if you want to service the valves yourself, just unbolt the radiator and you have clear access to the valves 🙌 they are simple lock nut adjusters, no shims to size and order 👍 some dude in thailand has over 250 000 kilometers on his, durable engine 😲
@@DefZen343 I just bought one and I'm liking the simple maintenance such as the valves. So expensive on other bikes
interesting to hear that Honda Netherlands offer 5 year warranty compared to UK which is a measly 2 year warranty, even BMW here offer 3 years so that's mean from Honda UK.
In Belgium, Honda also has a 5-year warranty plus 5 years of free roadside assistance if necessary.
Most things have been said about the 750x dct, but i have a tip about the selectable user mode in the rider modes so i set the power on full the engine braking set to half traction control complettley off and drivability set to full on, this gives a ride similar to sport mode but without the on off engine braking and the gearing seams to change much later and 6th gear will select which it won't in sport mode, i have settled on these settings and use them mostly.
I have the '21 model on a '22 plate, I also got the showroom pack with topbox, centrestand, side pipes, fog lights and charging port in the frunk, got the panniers as well, strangely as they are £1008 addition. I must add the the OEM fog lights add soo much light at night, they really do make a difference, without them night riding would be a lot harder. Also modes can be changed on the move by simply rolling off the throttle. You mentioned the mode left is picked back up upon start up, I may be missing something but my always starts in standard no matter what I left her in.
Keep up the good work.
Where do the fog lights mount?
@@brentbradley6711 on the engine bars.
I really like the format of this review. Balanced meticolous and without babbling nonsense. 👍⭐
Glad you think that!
I had this bike for 5 Years and commuted every day. Most reliable and very versiatile with the front storage. I put a touring screen on and was perfect for long journeys. Traded in for the NT 1100 hopefully I like it as much in a few years time. Great Video
Thanks for watching!
Just a couple things left out were assessments of the suspension and pillion comfort. I could easily see a day out with a friend and side cases, and that inevitable itch when presented with some twisties! Great review. Great choice if you ride daily and need to count on it, or if you have a more "emotional" bike in the garage that will only give you a couple of comfy hours in the saddle. Thanks!
Got given this as a courtesy, honestly, i want one now. I'm SO happy they have a 270 crank. LOVE the sound.
I own a 68 reg DCT and absolutely love it, they must have changed the luggage space capacity as mine easily takes a full face lid, mine also has slotted rails on the tank storage for a tank bag, that seems to have been removed from the newer versions, lucky the previous owner added a centre stand which is well worth having
I have a NC750S Dct great bike you need aftermarket spot lights if you even want to think of riding at night.
The most balanced review so far on the NC750X. For reference, the Revzilla review was a joke, basically expecting the NC to be like a loud pipe monster. 🤨 I own the 2020 DCT model. I absolutely love it. Great bike for all the reasons you mentioned. I will add one pro and one con. Pro - The NC has a 210kg max payload which makes riding with a pillion or a lot of luggage a breeze. Con - Because of the gas tank under the pillion seat, virtually all soft luggage systems (e.g. Mosko Moto) is a nuisance. You have to detach it every time you need to fill up. So, you are forced to get a system with racks so you don't end up with straps over or under the pillion. Even with this con, the bike is amazing. Thanks again for the good review.
My pleasure!
Another fantastic, well-differentiated, client-focussed review of a VERY popular bike for good reason. You covered all of the critical aspects concisely & to such a degree, I feel like a very well-informed prospect about to confidently buy an NC & make his first street bike purchase in 40 years. My last ride was a Honda 125 dirt bike that I had as a kid. Anyway, I just got an itch that I need to scratch. Speaking of itchy, really enjoyed your interview of Noraly Shoemaker (a.k.a. Itchy Boots), and would love to see more of that kind of stuff on your channel. Charly Sinewan, another worldwide motorcycle traveller & her temporary riding partner in El Salvador, I think would make for a fantastic interview at some point in the future. Just a thought.
Thanks for that test, I've always been interested in this model. Got to love your down to earth style of appraisal. Keep up the good work.
Thank you Steve....
Had one as a loan bike for a few weeks. Really good all round great review as always. I managed to get my large shoei in the ”tank" storage without any problem..really practical bike
I have some arthritis in my left hand which makes using the clutch lever on conventional bikes a little painful. Purchasing my 2017 NC750 DCT has meant that long term ownership and riding is now possible. I have no problem with the amount of power the bike makes, as already stated, the sport modes are quite brisk enough. The seat and rear shock were dreadful so I fitted a shad seat (now discontinued) and a Nitron shock. Although expensive the Nitron has transformed the bike, it just glides over the bumps. The forks are, I think, quite adequate.
As TMF said, it's very easy to move the bike in and out of the garage and seat height suits my 5' 8" frame.
I saw the new NC750 at the London show in February and liked the improvement that Honda (at last) have incorporated.
Totally agree with your choice of replacement shock 👍. I had a Nitron fitted to my Versys 650 and it transformed the comfort and handling. The initial outlay is a lot, but according to Nitron the rebuild cost (when it's time) is less than £100 and you wouldn't even get a new OEM shock for that much - and they aren't serviceable either 👍.
Another reviewer (Moss on Knox) changed the rear, but also swapped in progressive front springs and it was a revelation. If on a budget, front springs first!
I agree with your comments. I have a 2012 700X and the lights are crap at night - definitely not one for high speed riding on unlit rural roads. A centre stand is a must - Honda want £150+ as an aftermarket accessory. The previous owner had fitted handguards and heated grips and a taller Honda screen. I fitted a variable Puig flip-up extension as I am 6 foot. Keeps all the wind off well. MPG as you say should be in the 80's unless you are redlining everywhere and riding like a complete eejit. I guess you will achieve better fuel consumption when the engine gets properly bedded in. As for touring, going on my first next weekend to Southern Ireland. 20kg is the max loading, 5kg each pannier and 10kg in the top box. Plus of course the wonderful 'frunk' as the Americans will call the front storage space. I just wish mine had DCT
My experience from 9 months ownership. Buying the centre stand and extra light kit makes it far more practical. You can change mode on the move by just shutting the throttle after you select the mode. I get about 150 miles before the warning fuel low level comes on, average consumption is low 70s. Touring with throw overs is a pain because you have to take them off to fill up. Seat is good for about 200 miles then gets a bit bum ache. My Rpha70 fits in the frunk no problem. I have the manual version, clutch action is light as is the gearbox no false neutrals, clutch lever lacks adjuster though. A good practical everyday bike which is exactly why I bought it. Nice review.
Thanks for watching and for stopping by!
what is the light kit?
Just discovered you today as I'm researching this bike for my next purchase, and I thoroughly enjoyed your videos. I think I may just get myself one of these! Subscribed and look forward to exploring your library.
Welcome along Chris! Thanks for the sub!
You don't have to stop, just roll off the throttle for a changed driving mode to take effect. I like the seat on my 2022 which, I think must have been significantly improved relative to 2019 and earlier models. I agree about the missing ambiant air temperature gauge being a disappointment - also no engine coolant temperature display - just a hot warning light. I think you mentioned this, but having the driving mode reset to standard whenever the bike is turned off is a bit of a niggle for me. A pleasant surprise is that the trip A milage, fuel consumption and time all reset automatically when you fill up the tank. I have about 700 miles on mine, have kept exact fuel consumption records and have averaged 63.73 miles per US gallon so far. I think this is almost exactly what you reported. As always, thanks very much for your excellent and entertaining reviews.
And the US gallon is smaller than the
UK gallon
@@kevinmurtagh3434 Yes, I think the equivalent would be around 76 miles per imperial gallon.
Thank you for your detailed review. I had an NC750X 2016 manual model - great bike and it was exactly as you described. The only two things were quite different - the LCD had a night mode and was automatically switching into it when it was getting dark. And the seat was very uncomfortable - I upgraded it twice, first time with a Shad comfort seat and second time with a custom seat - it felt better than with a stock seat, but still not good enough for me (I am 6'1"). The problem is that the seat is inclined forward and it makes you slide forward so you have to readjust constantly. I could not ride this bike for longer than an hour and this was the reason I sold it.
Got a CBF1000F now and it has not got this problem at all.
Excellent review, i think it's a bike us older riders can appreciate as well. Don't forget old age doesn't come alone! I'm 60 & probably in need of knee surgery so the low center of gravity makes it an attractive proposition as does the DCT if it means we can ride for longer. Also don't forget it has screw & lock nut valve adjustment, that combined with accessibility of the engine ticks one more box for servicing costs if you're a home mechanic.
Tks TMF, another good review, and if I was going to change my bike in the near future, this would be pretty high on my list. Seems to fit the bill for me personally. Also, I'm leaning towards the DCT idea, old age and arthritis in my hands catching up very quickly haha. Keep up the good work.
Glad to help!
An admirable review! A few things. I have a 2018 NC750X standard clutch that I have put 22,000 miles on so far. I've done ALL maintenance for the motorcycle to date, including valve lash. This bike is a DIY owners dream come true! Plenty of power to obtain a ticket on any road in America, but you can't overtake quickly at our highway speeds 70mph or so, but these are multi lane, so no big deal. Fuel economy is very effected by how I operate it, anything from 63-81 US MPG. Pushing more air costs more fuel.
I looked at the new NC750X 2021, 2022 and find it smaller than it's former model? It seemed to be a little more cramped. It's a fantastic motorcycle none the less. BTW, the 2018 has a full color dash, not sure why Honda went backwards on that. Almost forgot, there are VERY few farkles for this bike. My 18 has all QD SW Motech carriers, side and tail, and Madstad wind screen.
I had a 700X DCT followed by a 750 version. Great bikes, that I found I appreciated more and more as I got to know them. If I were younger I’d have another in a heartbeat. Thanks for a very informative review.
I think this is a bike that will in time become a classic. Us older folk are looking for comfort and ease of use, and I just think that this bike makes biking more accessible to more people… I think I will test ride one myself 🤔
@@applecorp yeah, for me that is also an issue. I am just waiting to ride the new kymco ak 550 ST. I am into my scooters these days. But I also like this type of bike.
@@applecorp I have the Forza 350 👍 but want something with a little more pep and better suspension for 2 up riding. So that is why I am looking at the kymco. Will probably keep the 350 as well. I really love it.
@@applecorp I have a Burgmann 400 and a Tiger 800. Despite the scoot having only one third of the Tiger's HP, my 30 mile commute takes the same on either machine. Thus the modest power of the NC750 may be less exciting than some machines, but I'm sure that it is more efficient then most!
if you were to use this bike for touring, you'd obviously use the 'frunk' but I imagine solo riders would want to strap bags, tents etc. to the pillion seat (to save lugging a top box). Relocating the fuel filler, accessed via a side panel 'flap' would be a neat feature.
Agree with you about the DCT, really good. You can change the modes whilst riding by switching and then roll off the throttle to engage. I am 6' 1" and found the bike a tiny bit small but not a deal breaker.
Very easy to ride in traffic, lane splitting is easy. Handling very good.
I love having the fuel tank where it is as it is easier to fill up, but where to put the cap?
It is fast enough for me not being a speed freak, but I do like a bike that goes fairly quickly when needs must.
I found I could not hear the horn with ear plugs in, having said that I do have mild hearing loss. When the microwave beeps I cant hear it and its pretty loud. I can hear my Transalp horn though.
Thinking of trading in my bike, but waiting to see if they update the NC750x dash & other stuff this year as they have with the CB500x/NX500
Very good review as always, honest and not afraid to like or dislike.
Just a few comments based on your review. I can fit my helmet in the box, carefully. I recommend getting heated grips and hand guards. I am a short ass female rider but the height on the new model is great for me. My only issue is that I also have small hands, so I had to adjust the brake lever to the max to benefit from using it. It’s very easy to push the throttle when trying to break because I have small hands, try to use the rear brake instead if possible and in traffic. You can change from auto to manual as you ride, ease off the throttle and switch to manual.
Nice review, Mr Flyer. I've had my 2022 DCT since January and agree with most of your review, although I do have a couple of points that differ. First.....that saddle - whoever designed it should be made to ride it all day every day till the end comes, which won't be long. Second, the weird Checking of the Oil Ceremony. Honda says the bike must be upright and level, and unless you have a partner to hold it, that means putting it on the centerstand with a block to prop the front wheel. Very odd! Next, the position of the horn and turn signal buttons. At least once a day, I hit the darned horn instead of the turn signals. You mentioned it yourself and so have others. I've had no problems with fitting any of my helmets in the frunk, but I wear a medium. As to the MIA center stand and heated grips and cruise control..... (makes the rubbing fingers gesture indicating greedy corporate philandering). Finally, the cable that opens the rear saddle to give access to the fuel filler came adrift! I could not remove either saddle and have had to bring it to the dealer for service. Even THEY couldn't get it off and had to call Honda in Japan, who also had no procedure. Apparently, mine is now a test case for Honda. Ha! Notoriety at last!
I have the 2017 model it now has 55000 miles on the clock it's still getting 80mpg no problems 👍. To sort out the wind issue I took the screen off its much better without
OK I am sure some has written this, but just in case, YES you can change the riding modes on the go, just change it and close the throttle, and will change from Sport/Road/Rain/user. And it always goes to Standard after you turn it off. I know not all helmets fit, but my Schubert's C3/C4 and Nolan N105 all fit. But then I live with one, great reviews keep up the good work
Great review, thank you. I'm borrowing my son's 750x and I'm even more excited to get it after watching your review 🤓
After 4 years and 30,000 kms, my NC still is a great ride. My only head scratcher is having to change the air filter is a bit of a chore. Something like 18 screws and rivets to take out. Fortunately, UA-cam has some great demos on how to do it.
I have the 2024 model. The first thing I did after riding it home was read the manual front to back. I don't see how anyone can properly review a bike (or anything) without reading the manual. There are many nuances that become apparent after reading the manual. I will agree the headlight throw is disappointing. Cleaning/lubing the chain is much easier if the chainguard is removed by undoing the two allen screws. I did own the 2013 model NC700X years ago, the 750cc models are considerably 'fatter'.
Which is why as a one bike owner I brought one! And added Oxford heated grips/ a centre stand/ top screen deflector/ Denali sound bomb/ rear hugger/ radiator guard, now perfect for me/ especially with every increasing fuel costs? You will not get a 750cc with better fuel consumption? Good review! As you said not brilliant at one thing but a great all rounder!!
Brilliant video, exactly what I wanted and all the information I needed to know as a new rider. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
As an A2 license holder I got myself a Svartpilen 401, most beautiful motorcycle I´ve ever seen.
But there is a part of me that would really fancy the Forza or X-ADV 750 as my next bike. I sat on the Forza before and it is a perfect fit for my 6´1`` body, extremely comfy but due to the DCT you can enjoy some shifting when you want to.
Just throw some additional storage and an aftermarket exhaust on there and you´ve got the ultimate commute/tour/fun vehicle...
Thanks
Wow - thank you very much!
I totally agree. The bike is great, except for running during the night. The head light is not what it should be. First time I stopped the bike to check f the light was on.
Once again, a great review, I had to wait two months for my NT 1100, in this time I looked at the NC quite closely, because I could have had it immediately, although I am glad that I waited for the NT, I did find the NC quite nice.
The NT 1100 by the way, is a dream.
Look forward to your next upload, have fun and ride safe.
Had a look at the NT1100 at the Lyon motorbike show. Beautiful bike and I'm very tempted! How do you find the controls on the left handgrip? Not too many or too complex?
@@simonthomas5367 once you realise that the up and down buttons change the riding Mode it's actually quite easy, everything else, apart from the indicators aren't really essential, I do have the manual gearbox with Quickshifter though, that's a few buttons less.
I love it.
I hope the NT makes it to Canada! I own a fj09 (2017) and the buffeting is just unbearable
Understated bike as you say, thanks for the headlights and rain review.
I am considering one for commuting, touring and weekend jaunts and replacing the 2 bikes I have.
Bikes are not cheap to run and not economical, but this is a step in the right sirection.
I agree...
Love your channel. My 2014 NC700 will accept my helmet and has a handy bracket under the pillion seat to secure it when I need to stuff my jacket in the frunk. I also have a 2016 Triumph Trophy and a 1999 HD Super Glide (a must if you live in Wisconsin 150 miles from HD HQ) but the NC is the bike I ride the most.
Very interesting do it all bike.
No center stand 👎🏼
Oil dipstick 👎🏼
Tank storage 👍🏼👍🏼
Not very thirsty 👍🏼👍🏼
Luggage capacity 👍🏼
Wider taller screen needed I think
Heated grips not standard 👎🏼
Thanks for the review. Just thought I'd mention what I think is something that could be improved is the lack of a decent sized mudguard at the front. We definitely need one when we ride in the UK! I fitted a fender extender to mine but I suppose a lot of these bikes are sold in warmer, drier countries which you did mention with regard to the heated grips.
I think that bike manufacturers should provide proper mudguards as standard, no excuses!
Another incisive, balanced and entertaining review - thanks.
Two suggestions for your “practicalities” segment:
1. keeping the bike clean. How well protected is the bike from road muck? How easy it to clean?
2. cost of standard accessories - radiator protector, centre stand, heated grips, luggage…..? So many manufacturers sales strategies involve highlighting the top-line price of their bikes and then fleecing their customers on “extras” - take a bow in particular BMW and Triumph.
Thanks for the ideas - I used to cover cleaning but dropped is as it was too much effort!!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer I appreciate that the hassle of cleaning is not helped by the added faff of filming. It would be enough just to show how bikes look after being ridden in the rain.
Now that I can do!
Hello Andy, another well structured review, and I must say I'm with you with this bike, I really can't understand why so many bikers sneer at this bike, for the price it's amazing value cheap to run, and it's an Honda...
The NC750X is possibly the best bike that Honda makes, and undoubtedly one of the best bikes on sale today. When Honda launched the NC700 in 2012 it didn't look revolutionary, but it was. Such an amazingly well-rounded, practical and economical motorcycle. And why more companies haven't copied the tank helmet storage baffles me, it's 100% brilliant.
I agree!
Nice review. Fog lights are essential if you often drive in rural areas at night. Otherwise, the illumination is far too poor. Doesn't seem to have improved much on the current model. I like my 2020 model, but the LED-headlight is really a shame, Honda.
I have a 2012 and I love it even though it doesn't have abs or a gear indicator!!!
Good in depth review of a thoroughly interesting bike Andy😉i do wish all bikes had that clever tank storage area, very handy for delicate shopping stuff👌
Hi, you can get a full face lid in the tank area.My lift up Showa XXL goes in no problem been commuting up to London for many years and this is my 2nd NC750X.. It’s touted as the new Deauville by Honda and yes the DTC is perfect with the 750 lump 👍
Excellent review Sir. Nobody does it better. Happy Easter.
That's very kind of you Gary thank you .....it's Easter you say?!! Crikey.....one day is the same as the next to me!!! (that's not a complaint by the way)....
I have the 2015 model and I have had 3 different branded full helmets in, one of which was flip fronted and all are large. Love it as a do it all bike. I get the speed comment from sportsbike riders. If you want to race off the lights its not the bike for you but to ride at normal speeds theres no issues. Will happily get you to 70mph+ at a reasonable speed and gives confidence when overtaking with plenty more to give
Yep. If I could afford to run two bikes there'd definitely be another NC in my garage!
Hi Riding modes can be changed on the fly, you just have to do it with the throttle in the closed position.
I have the 2015 NC700X DCT. It’s a great bike for long distance riding too. Very comfortable riding position and plenty of power out on the freeway. Good in the wind also
Thanks for that - how do you find the seat comfort?
@@TheMissendenFlyer I think the seat is fine but I know a lot of guys do change it.
I find the seat of my nc700x too hard for a ride longer than 200 km. For a short ride or a city ride (which I do more often) the seat is not an issue.
The NC700 (previous generation), replaced the NT700, Deauville, with it’s shaft drive. Presented as the practical replacement. Much was made of it’s fuel economy. They used to say that it had “half a Honda Jazz (Fit USA) engine”. The NT700 Deauville was a bullet proof work horse and it was a shame to see the mid-range shaft drive go. Having said that, these NC750s are staying the course and seem very popular as a mid-range good all-rounder bikes. I expect MRA Vario windshields might be an improvement.
I agree, despite being mocked by the biking press, the Deauville was an impressive and as you say, bullet proof bike. It should have been developed not taken off the market. I'd prefer a shaft drive over a DCT any day.
@@stevetaylor8698 - yes. I passed my advanced on the NT650. The NT700 went part exchange for a ST1300 (PAN), also now extinct. It is the NT700 that i miss more though. Now as I get older our tourer is a 900 and my fun bike is a 350.
as others have said, a great all-rounder, a thinking persons bike, no rocket ship but practical and frugal, which is very welcome now days. 90mpg isn't difficult out of town and on a gentle throttle, single front disc more than adequate adds to low running costs, big service intervals and easy valve checking/adjustment add to the low cost of ownership. an unsung hero and a very good do it all type of bike.
I so enjoy your reviews. Even if I am not interested in the particular model, I watch the videos for the easy going and practical presentation style
I appreciate that - thank you!
Amen to that. Andy's videos are definitely middle of the road...but in a good way
Thanks for this review, TMF. I think I am going to get one (from 2016 to 2020 model due to the seat being higher) as a general run about bike. The DCT in traffic and the very low center of gravity are what swayed me. Btw, Honda went a bit weird with seat heights on this bike. The original NC700X had a seat height of 795 mm, then from 2016 to 2020 the NC750X went up to 830 mm and from 2021 it went down to 800 mm again. I've seen a number of people complaining about legs being cramped on this bike and it must be due to the various models being all over the place.
How odd!!
You have really grown as a professional reviewer over the last few years. These videos are a pleasure to watch.
Wow - thank you very much!
Great in-depth review, love the bloopers at the end!
Great review again Andy👍🏼 but I can’t imagine what you are doing to get as little as 63 miles to a gallon on this thing !
Are used to own a 2014 NC 700 X DCT and with Michelin tires it was great I never had problems in the rain it was just as you say grader on the city easy to maneuver my biggest Cueto it was a little busy and vibrating once you get on the highway and the vibrations could just be very annoying but I owned it for seven years and put 64,000 miles on it driving around the USA and I enjoyed my time with it. I have heard that the new 750 X DCT is better and it’s smoother
You just gave me greater appreciation of the lit switch gear on my Tiger 1200. Funny what you take for granted on your own bike. Looked like a great all a rounder though!
I’ve got an nc700. Easiest bike to live with I’ve had. Best on fuel and a comfy riding position
Thank you for this, best review of this bike, I think. Great work!
Much appreciated!
Another great review! You'd think Honda would get the message about centre stands and at the very least make one a factory option (will not affect quoted mass) Poor lighting pretty much inexcusable in this day and age. I can only surmise styling compromised design efficiency. The dash seems really low-rent in this day and age, but as an urban commuter the bike is largely unmatched. I've never met anyone who can fit anything later than a small fullface into the locker.
I have a 2022 on order here in Thailand, even though there are a couple of changes I'd like to see. First is an option to have the rear brake moved to the left hand where the clutch would normally be. After riding a scooter for the last few months, I'm a fan of being able to put both feet on the ground when stopped while having either hand available for adjustments. Also would love to have a belt drive.
You should have ordered a Forza 750 or X-ADV 750, instead...
@@1zanglang Forza 750 not available in Thailand. X-ADV has higher seat and bigger price tag. Ultimately, I can happily live with the NC.
Great review as always...especially the living with series, really helps. I purchased a 2022 last year, you can change the riding mode while riding (just need to close the throttle) and atleast on mine, it resets to Standard everytime I switch off the bike...maybe it's a setting I need to change
Great review.
I've owned the related and higher spec Forza 750 for several years now.
Overall, a fabulous bike. So many good qualities, comfort, very easy to ride, economical, and cruises well even at speed. I just wish it had another 15 horsepower to improve overtaking ability, especially with a pillion.
The 2025 updates make all the NC related bikes better. Shame there wasn't a bit more power though! Mind you, the bottom end of the rev range is far stronger than the ultimately faster Transalp. What price a 850 version?
What a great bike for commuting on. 👍
I have taken the Center stand of 1 off my bikes and other 2 didn’t have them I invested in a Canadian made SNAP JACK ! fantastic compact peace of kit . I rotate on all my bikes to lube the chains and take it on tours ( you should check out they have U tube vids on in ) as I’m in Australia just the postage cost was a killer .
Excellent review and as a previous owner of the 2021 NC750 I would agree that it is a good looking, practical, economical all round motorcycle with a peppy engine. Just one correction, riding modes can be changed on the go, you only have to shut the throttle momentarily for it to change. However, there is a reason why I am an ex owner. Firstly, I don’t know if it was just my bike, or whether it is typical, but after six months of ownership some of the finishes, particularly on the exhaust silencer, were deteriorating badly. The main problem I had however, was with Honda’s Customer Services. I won’t go into the details, other than to say that when issues arose Honda’s response was to deny any responsibility and blame me. Sadly, from what I have read on the internet, mine is not an isolated instance. So, my conclusion would be a good all-rounder, let down by some quality issues and dreadful after sales support from Honda.
As a Honda man, it pains me to say it, but they are very badly finished. Loads of mild steel which will rust in the plain air. The ABS ring will be brown in a year or two for all year round riding. Terrible paint finish on the engine cases but then it is a budget bike.
I believe these bikes are made in Thailand along with the 500 line of Honda bikes here in Canada ....all have the same quality issues and Honda is no help at all with warranty issues..
@@louielewis5209 that’s it, yes. I’ve had three Thai built Hondas and one Japanese and they vary enormously. A well looked after bike shouldn’t be so hard to keep corrosion at bay. A majority of Triumph bikes are made in Thailand now and I’ve see variable quality with those too.
You have the neatest garage I have ever seen.
Thank you!
Great review Andy, I've just sold my fjr as finding it a bit to heavy to lug around out of the shed & seriously thinking of getting an nc750x to replace it.
The dash RGB LED thing. You can change it to "ECO" mode instead and it will show you how efficient you are being with the motion lotion. Green and blue are good, amber and red are bad :) I believe it also does "RPM" mode where it goes from blue, green, amber, red, flashing red etc.
I have the manual and the RAIN mode is awesome to play around in, even if it's not raining. When the bike is cold and the throttle response lumpy, RAIN mode smooths your inputs out so you don't have to be as delicate with it in 1st while it warms up. As it smooths things out, it also allows you to do odd stuff like ride at 30mph in 6th at 1,500 rpm. Because the throttle is softened so much it makes managing the lugging easier allowing you to apply the tiniest smooth throttle input to add a smidge of power without vibrating the practically idling bike.
As to how much fun factor it has, in 1st, 2nd and 3rd in sport mode it can definitely "hoon" about. 0-60 isn't that bad, faster than 99% of the cars on the road. In 3rd it will get to 80mph, but that is where all the fun ends. 4th is a big step up and while it will still accelerate in the power band you have to wait and wait and wait to get to 5th and the ton about the red line, then ... well, to be honest with you, I gave up and decided seeing how long it took to get any faster wasn't worth my license or an accident while trying.
Coming from a CBF1000, basically a sport tourer version of the Fireblade the comparison in power... basically in 1st, 2nd, 3rd the NC750X when floored at around 4,200 RPM will kick you in the ass in a similar fashion and get off down the road initially in a similar fashion. Then it changes completely becuase while the CBF1000 would just keep on pulling and pulling and pulling all the way to 10k RPM and only then be grudge a gear change at 50mph, 2nd will pull all the way to 70 in one big flat torque curve. The NC750x runs out of puff rapidly over 6000k (as any big twin does really). So it's useful rev range is much shorter. It doesn't even reward rev'ing it out in a gear, the last 1,500 to the red line is just a slowly sagging torque curve of disappointment.
But... we didn't buy it to be a sports tourer thankfully.
It's easier to ride, lighter, easier on the back, not always trying to kill you in the wet. More comfortable and practice and the CBF if I drove like an angel I got 55MPG. If I drove like I stole it I got 48MPG. I could nearly get that out of my 2 litre sports car! The NC750X doesn't go below 70MPG average and I've sent it as high as 110MPG on a practical trip.
Yes amazing economy that - even more impressive given the price of fuel now…
Good review Andy, this is a bike I keep coming back to as a possible buy because it seems so practical, shame that the 'Frunk' could not hold a helmet, as this is one reason I would buy. One big negative for me would be no centrestand, but it is possible to buy one as an 'extra'.
Fair enough!
I get my helmet in as do lots of others it seems. Maybe Andy has a deceptively massive head !?😄
Thank you Mr. Flyer, Bright and breezy review as always, and of course comprehensive road test and summary. :>)
Great video. I have 12 helmets too; I think we are ready for the 12 step program. "Hi, my name is Brent and I own 12 helmets".............lol
Performance wise, if you use Sport mode the bike has got quite a bit of get up and go - if you ride without a passenger.
Thanks for the great review. I have a 2018 one and the longer Ive had it the more I’ve used sport 3 mode, the quickest. It really makes a difference.
Thanks for sharing