Did mine today, it was very helpful watching your example. Swapped out for Barnett clutches and the spring conversion. The clutch operation is so much smoother!
@@gregb8824 ive got an 03 with 60k i just purchased.. great bike.. also has the annoying whine when cruising down the road.. it seems to be the loudest in overdrive.. so cruising abt 60mph it can be heard .. not sure what options are to quiet it up.. thank goodness for the loud pipes and the radio 🤣🤣
@@stanz1847 wear earplugs. I'm certain the frequency will cause permanent damage. The clutch basket needs to be changed out, that is where the problem lies. There's a great facebook group that'll answer all your questions if/when needed.
A+ on this video. Thank you for showing us how this is done. This video saves a lot of people a ton of money and the confidence to do this themselves which is priceless. 45,036 views, 45,036 clutches repaired by 45,036 viewers who could not have done it otherwise.... Thank YOU! - Liked & Subscribed.
He forgets to show one of the most important parts. When installing the clutch conversion kit make sure it is flush with the hub or you will have to break it down again when it doesn't work. You may have to rotate the purple piece a few times to get it flush. Otherwise, this video was very helpful. Thank you.
Thanks Frank! The wife and here in SC and we ride the same bike and color. We been everywhere on the East Cost... from the "Keys" to Nova Scotia. My clutch needs replacing and I absolutely can't afford to pay to have it done and I have never done any mechanic work at all... but, after your video, I believe we can do this... thanks!
romeotangohotel when you do decide to do buy the barrnet clutch plate with there pressure plate kit. You will feel the difference with it on compared to the yamaha stock clutch. My wife and I also travel with this bike from California to Key west fl to Virginia and back 8,500 miles after we replace the clutch. Before with 2up bike would cruise around 60 - 70mph know with new clutch system it cruises at 70 - 80 and if you don't pay attention it will cruise at 90mph.
Nice job. Changed the clutch on a '01 650 vstar a while ago. Ugly job where everything from the corroded exhaust manifold nuts to the foot rest and rear brake pedal, engine side covers with oil filter and gaskets had to come out. Made the job much longer.
Great to hear the video helped you out in changing your own clutch on your motorcycle even that it took you little over and hour at least you did it. Check out my other video I made on the venture that could also help you out also subscribe to the channel if you haven't yet its free it will let you know of new videos I upload.... thanks for watching and commenting.
Hi Frank, I have an 06 with 40,000 miles, clutch is slipping under hard acceleration, so I'll likely have to do this replacement, many thanks as this makes it easy to understand and learn from. Subscribed! :-)
Just did this on my 07 Royal Star tour deluxe. It's a pretty straightforward job. Folks if you want to keep your pipes oil free, shake of the excess oil when removing the clutches and clutch plates from the container you soak them in overnight. Also, wrap that part of your exhaust with saranwrap to keep the oil off of it. Just don't forget to remove it after. I'm happy with the clutch upgrade, it has a better throttle response when you accelerate. It pulls a bit harder than it did with the stock clutch.
Get the Barnett clutch package that's what I put on mine it kickass. I ride with wife and trailer and you go up mountian like nothing. Thanks for watching like to hear my videos helps others.
Craig Kirkpatrick thank you for watching and liking the video if you haven't yet subscribe to the channel for future video update it's free....agian thank you for watching
Notice the clutch access. No need to remove saddlebags or seats or gas tanks or any plastic or fairings. Try replacing your clutch on the side of the road or in the parking lot of the motel you stayed in parking lot using just your tour kit tools on a Goldwing.. This is the main reason I do not own a Goldwing, but I am on my third Yamaha Venture right now. Serviceability
Can I ask you how did you managed to wear the clutch out enough to require replacement? I have owned 3 Venture’s. I put 138,000 miles on my 1986 Yamaha venture Royale, my 2002 midnight Venture 1300 Had 48,000 miles on it when I sold it..There was not the slightest hint of clutch slippage or clutch drag or shatter or noise on either of those machines. I’m just curious how your clutch got so bad that a required replacement so i can avoid problems on my currant 2008 RS Venture with 32k miles.. . Is it possible you had additives in the oil that contaminated the fiber clutch plates? I have heard that some automobile oil out there have “ friction modifier” additives that can make wet clutches in motorcycles slip.. no one should ever use any automobile oil in their motorcycle engine that uses the same oil to lubricate the clutch&transmission and the engine crankshaft and cylinders. Car oil will not stand up to a condition that takes place in motorcycle transmissions called Shear…. The government asked the oil manufacturers and the car manufacturers how they could make us all get more miles per gallon with our cars. They said, we could thin the oil out.. if every car in the nation gets even 1 mile extra mileage out of every tank of gasoline, that means millions of gallons of gasoline saved every day. So they thinned out the oil in the late 1980s.. i’m sure everyone has noticed that the recommended oil in cars over the past couple decades has been 5W 20 or 0W 20, instead of 10W-30..The major two items they reduced the percentage of in the additives packages of oil is zinc and phosphorus. Those two ingredients make oil have a stronger film strength -resistance to sheer…..Sheer is when two gears come together under pressure and the metal to metal sliding against each other actually cuts through the oil, like your windshield wiper blade wiping the water off of your windshield, meshing gears with up to 100,000 pounds per square inch of pressure wipe the oil off of the gear faces. Zinc and phosphorus give the oil the strongest film strength to resist this catastrophic condition. car oils have less zinc and phosphorus in it today, because zinc and phosphorus make the oil thicker…. Only Motorcycle oil still has more of the ingredients to resist sheer. there is no place in a car engine that is as severe on oil like in every motorcycle transmission. The toughest place in an engine of a car on oil is where the cam and lifters or rockers meet as the cam is spinning.. that is usually the most severe environment in a car engine on the oil. but that is nothing like the more than 100,000 psi of force scraping the oil off of meshing gears in a motorcycle transmission.. not all motorcycles have 100,000 psi pressure on transmission gear faces, but there are several super bikes out there that have been doing that since 1989. Motorcyclist magazine actually dedicated a multi page warning about using car oil and motorcycles because of the change of the additives package to car oil so get more miles per gallon in cars.. they actually said that there will be catastrophic transmission failures in motorcycles if people use car oil in their engines in the future.. after reading that, I have used nothing but motorcycle specific oil in my transmissions on all my motorcycles. Even the ones with dry clutches.. did you use car oil or some super Duper oil additive? I would like to know what would make a street bike clutch that is not under any severe conditions like racing, what would make that clutch go bad? There is one scenario that could cause it to go bad. If for some reason the clutch was not releasing all the way like someone that would ride the clutch lever constantly holding it or like in a car if they would rest their foot on the clutch pedal. That would cause the clutch to slip, causing it to burn out/wear out.. I tried to see if there were dents from the fiber clutch plates in your clutch basket. Those dents prevent your clutch from separating when you pull the clutch lever in. The aftermarket fiber clutch plates must be softer than the motorcycles clutch basket or they will put dents/ ware divots in the basket.. and most motorcycles especially Yamaha‘s, the very first metal clutch plate is beveled on the outer edge that faces out. I hope you got them back in in sequence because it will not operate correctly if you do not have that beveled edge metal clutch plate in the first position.. I’m sorry I did not listen to your voice during this video. That whistling was nauseating so I just watched with the sound off
Hi frank, thanks for the amazing video, i have a problem, with my clutch. It has a banging sound when clutch is released, when im pulling the clutch the sound stops, can u tell me what kind of problem is it and how To solve it? Thank you so much 🙏🏻 best of luck 🙏🏻
You said 5 lbs, that is inch pounds or ft lbs? And I'm reinstalling barnett clutch plates and friction as well, I thought I had heard different sizes is that correct? 🤔 and as far as the turning what did you push in I'm not understanding that
Like the video good information that i can use if or when i need to change my clutch... But man I wanted to reach through the screen and help you out. First i would have handed you a dry rag to wipe those oil covered hands off then took the Damn swivel socket off and put it somewhere until i needed it, yes i was cussing. I think i have issues when it come to someone who uses the wrong tools for the job. Then i would have gotten the extension and the deep socket so you could get those spring bolts in without fighting them like you were doing with oily hands and a swivel socket... Then for a rule of thumb and as Brian Vigue mentioned, always make sure the clutch conversion kit is flush with the hub. and another rule of thumb is when tightening any part with close bolt pattern in close circle you must tighten in sequence to prevent wobble or you will feel it when traveling down the road and it could damage the clutch. Just my two cents
Got a question. On the Barnett Clutch Spring Conversion Kit does it come withe the friction plates and the steel plates? I went to the Barnett site and it looks like the are sold separately? Also, there is a so called spring towards the back and I've heard you dont have to re-install it? I'll try and send you a link to the Barnett site. I called them to ask and they are currently closed. Any help appreciated .....Thanks.Ricky
Frank, I was a little confused at the first of your video. Did the plates, friction and metal come withe the $150.00 Barnett kit or did you have to pay extra for them?
Ricky Willis if you go to ebay they have them there friction and steel plates sold together also get the Barnett spring upgrade sold separate you will noticed the difference. Also if you looked at the video when I started putting it back together I stated that I didn't put the back spring wire back on. Bike already has over 20,000 since I did this video...
Thanks, Frank I did see that option for the heavy duty spring and was wondering if worth it. Many thanks for your video and help. Keep up the good work. Your video best on the tube for Yamaha Venture clutch replacement .Ride easy my friend...Ricky
Андрей Васильев from what I have seen and what I've been told they are press on you will have to press them out. Another way is if yours is missing bearings get an old one From another bike and remove just the bearing and reinstall it on your bike. They also have rebuilt Kits that also you can buy. Thank for commenting and subscribe for future video if you haven't yet...
I did not see you align the splines on disks - there is a notch to follow on clutch basket (disks have one notch, and across from it three); also you did not reinsert the spring keeper after the two initial disks/plates. Can I ask why? perhaps you explained but did not listen to audio. Any issue upon completion from altering from these two steps?
Jeff pollard I upgraded to a Barnard clutch pack doesn't require it only if you use yamaha clutch you do. Also about 14:50 of video I mention It didn't install the wire back on using a Bernard clutch pack you do require installing it back if you use yamaha clutch pack. Since I did this upgrade I have riden close to over 30,000 mile with wife and camping tailer behind from California to Virginia and back with no issues whatsoever. Thanks for your comment.
Bro, regards!! Recently i have check the piston compressor in cold my RV Yamaha has 90psi and in hot 60psi in all four Piston the Yamaha guides said should be 15 bar, what's is over 200pis ,i am so confused,my RV has 80000 miles,does not burn oil, and all sparks plug are clean .could you help me with comments?
If your talking about the final drive yes you use sae 80 oil. On the cover you should have a big screw were you fill the final drive below that that is a very small screw call the we hole take that screw off. Add oil thru that big screw until oil starts coming out then its full then put small screw back on and big screw then your done......
Good Video... I'm not sure if BIG 1 litre plus Yamahas are just harder on clutches in general but On my 1600cc roadstar silverado, I had to replace the clutch due to slipping which became worse under heavy torque. Prior to the clutch going, i had changed over to a good synthetic oil (yamaha and motorcycle compliant) on my twin cause i was riding lots and i'm a synthetic guy. The short of it, litre plus yamaha clutches don't really like synthetic unless, from what i was told, its yamylube synthetic. I wasn't going to pay that kind of money or take the chance that my clutch fails again due to any synthetic. The ins and outs of running synthetic on my bike, well i stopped after clutch replacement and went onto running a premium brand dino oil. So i used Motol oil, bought it bulk from a local repair shop and had no other clutch slippage what so ever... On gasket replacement i have found its always good to wipe a "thin" smear of heat treated silicone on one side of the gasket just use your finger then press onto the clean case and let dry.. it has never let me down.
I've been using Castrol synthetic oil on my Yamaha venture for over 6 years with no problems. The clutch slippage is do to ware and tear on the clutch mostly the Yamaha spring plate gets worn fast. That's why I went and got barnett clutch upgrade instead that has actually heavy duty individual springs. Since this video I have traveled close to 30,000 miles with wife on back and pulling a trailer and up and down hills with no issues best investment I did.
@@franklisatravels9651 a Barnett upgrade would surely correct. I merely was referring too stock clutch situations. My thoughts were on synthetic oil in general does not work well with stock wet clutches. Not sure how long you were using synth oil before your clutch went. Mine went after two or three oil changes using synthetic, under two up riding and abundance of torque the clutch "plates" couldn't handle it and were done relatively fast. The springs and clutch case were good.. the bike was a 1600 v-twin so synthetic oil it was too slippery for the stock roadstar clutch. Stock yamy wet clutches don't do well with synthetic oils...
I am contemplating an 84 1200 V Royale. I'm not mechanically inclined but willing. Enjoyed the video but would have liked more detail in the verbal description. For instance: is there a right way and wrong way to insert all those plates? You did not mention notches or guides. No disrespect but it was good to watch a video with someone who struggles a bit with tools. My handy buddies grind their teeth watching me work. The major issue with the 84 I'm considering is the 2nd gear is gone (like every VR of this venture) do you have a video for that? I'm feeling more confident watching your video.
Hello Frank, do you know how much oil and what kind shall have the middle gear case on RS Yamaha 1300? I have checked out all repairs manual, i could not find any details. What I did was to to remove the cover to make an inspection, many black oil came out!! Thanks in advance
Frank & Lisa Travels , thanks Frank, sorry my poor English, it is about how many oz and what kind of oil shall have the middle gear case , when i removed the cover (left side near to the middle drive gear ) Many oil came out , the oil looks like SAE 80, but i don't know how much i should refill. The refill bolt is just back from the engine oil bolt. I appreciate your time bro.
@@jallarra378 if you mean the final drive at the rear wheel. then it is SEA 80 oil, the middle gear is the bevel gears that turn through drive 90 deg and sends it via the drive shaft to the wheel, and is engine oil
Amigo, again from Japan thank you I have replaced the clutch based on your kind video "not spring" , may I ask you where in USA CAN I order spare parts with low budget? Best regards
JAL Larra best place will be ebay.com if you need used parts lot of motorcycle salvage stores on there.... Thanks for watching and if you haven't yet subscribe to the channel for upcoming future video's....
First time when I put full synthetic 10W40 Royal Purple Max Cycle oil my clutch started to slip, just wondering with this BARNETT cutch can we use full synthetic in Yamaha Venture bikes or Royal Star bikes ??? does anyone tested it ? user manual call for simple 10W40 mineral oil ....any thoughts would be appreciated . thx.
@@stanz1847 I didn't notice clutch slippage immediately it takes some time for friction plates to soak new oil well.....few hundred kilome....and it only slips in 5th gear a little bit i see it on a tachometer rpm jumps on full throttle around 120 130km/h
@@stanz1847 for me its too late I rode so much already but I will install both Barnet clutch kit and Barnet plate conversion kit with heavy duty springs ... I am already at 62K but slippage happened first time at around 35K
You should point out, before you begin removing bolts, it is necessary to drain the oil. This procedure is scarry on paper but very easy for anyone to do.
Hi Frank. The first clutch plate that you put in was that different from the other clutch plates. Also to push the clutch plate in did you just screw them down to keep them from spinning, and did you say you were or were not having trouble with the yamaha crank case gasket. thank you Vince. This will be my first time attempting this.
vincent shobe yes the first clutch plate is thinner then the rest of them. after you install the black circle brace right under it. then you install the next plate. the spring conversion plate when I snug the bolts forgot to push in tight before so the clutch plates were loose that's why I was able to turn it easy. I caught myself and correct it that's why I was able to tighten to the correct pounds.
Hi Frank I have the clutch plate on but it's not rested against the friction plates do I keep rotating the clutch fit around until it lays against the friction plate
vincent shobe make sure the center pin is in the hole and slightly push plate in tight same thing happen to me that's why the clutch was spinning if you have to take pressure plate off and reinstall it should work.
You said you did not use the spring cable, did you find any issues without that? I am redoing mine in 2 weeks. Garage wants $1000, do it myself for $300, greatly appreciate your videos they are helpful and easier then reading the maintenance manual.
Michael Owens yes if you put the Barnett clutch pak you dont have to put back the wire spring on. Yes barnett pak cost just under $300 if you buy Yamaha clutch make sure you line up the tabs the same way you take them out. On barnett clutch you won't have to worry about that.
Just as an update, I just finished my replacement and short test and working awesome, long ride tonight to really test it but thank you for the video it helped a ton with confidence to do it myself.
one thing to watch.....the plate can go on in 6 positions as there 6 bolts.....the clutch will only operate properly in 2 of the 6 spots. Yamaha has a index mark on the stock pressure plate to line things up, the Barnett does not.
Neil McRobbie your correct if you are installing Yamaha stock clutch you will have to line up the marks on all clutch plate to work properly. Barnett clutch doesn't have the marking and according to Barnett and Yamaha doesn't required to be line up just put in correctly. it so far working awesome thanks for the. omment...
if you notice at around 27.18 minute.....the pressure plate is still spinning..(stop video)......its obvious he had to remove all the bolts and springs and correctly re-seat the plate..(start video).....as you say they only fit 2 of 6 ways.....
Attention, to solve problem about slipping cluth, need only replace the last one "half" cluth plate with metal spring to full size one. Checked on 3 bikes ;)
Yannkes I look at that if you ride local nomore then 100 miles around where you stay I'll consider that but if you ride 30,000 miles a year and out of state I wouldn't even think of just replacing one clutch. that's why I changed all of them and pressure plate.
be extremely careful when torquing the bolts. Torque is very low, like 5 pounds. I used the wrong kind of torque wrench and had to buy a new clutch basket.
I did the same thing on a Triumph, a word to the wise is to put the torque wrench away and just do it up so it doesn't move, save yourselves some heartache
That looks really dangerous, having to put pressure on the bolts to get them started... Its super easy to cross tread a bolt when you start them with a wrench or ratchet.. I was waiting for it to happen, he got lucky.... not sure if there is some other way to compress the springs first bit wow..
My bike was acting funny today. When I shifted 2nd and 3rd gear I pressed the gas and it had a 2 second delay befor it grabbed and speed up. I hope clutch is not going out
Venture is not designed for driving around a chimney Decision is Your of course - This solution is for people who want save some money and be sure that is ok. Inside cluth, this metal "half" plate is a spring, makes easy pull cluth. In my case always this half friction plate was burned there where is this spring. Here In Europe nobody use Barnett and other replacement kit, is not available like in USA. People remove metal plate spring and this thick wire ring set and driving around Europe mountains ;)
know I come to understand why you would only change plate and stock spring your in Europe ok... have a friend there and he mention that he can't do d them there. That is for the comment...
the venture uses the same clutch as the V Max , search for V Max , Barnett clutch spring conversion. there is a site in UK sells barnett clutch spring for 120 gbp exactrep.com/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?WD=clutch&PN=Spring-clutch-conversion--Barnett-%2e-38%2ehtml#SID=20
Just a suggestion, that one wears dish washing latex gloves, so your hands are not bathed in cancer-causing engine oil. Not good at all...causes cell mutation as well as nerve neuropathy.
jaki partacz, zapomniał wsadzić po pierwszej tarczy ciernej z przekładką zabezpieczenia. Widać że chyba pierwszy raz w życiu zabierał się za wymianę sprzęgła. Nawet nie sprawdził czy hydraulika odpowiednio chodzi i czy nie wypadałoby i tam zaglądnąć. Następnie tarcza dociskowa powinna lekko wejść tak aby dokręcenie śrub na sprężynach odbywało się bez większego wysiłku a u niego widać że nie do końca spasował koło dociskowe w koszu sprzęgła. Pewnie po dopaleniu oddał moto do serwisu he,he.
Listen man, no disrespect to you for workin on your bike, you ain't perfect and we all make mistakes one time or another, but I'm tellin you straight that if I was there I would have instantly SMASHED the damned radio or whatever was playing that infernal whistle and twang on repeat for half an hour...omG I think I just permanently lost some sanity after hearing it for so long....
Did mine today, it was very helpful watching your example. Swapped out for Barnett clutches and the spring conversion. The clutch operation is so much smoother!
Did it take away the whine that is typical of these bikes?
@@gregb8824 Nope, that's deeper inside I think.
@@gregb8824 ive got an 03 with 60k i just purchased.. great bike.. also has the annoying whine when cruising down the road.. it seems to be the loudest in overdrive.. so cruising abt 60mph it can be heard .. not sure what options are to quiet it up.. thank goodness for the loud pipes and the radio 🤣🤣
@@stanz1847 wear earplugs. I'm certain the frequency will cause permanent damage. The clutch basket needs to be changed out, that is where the problem lies. There's a great facebook group that'll answer all your questions
if/when needed.
@@gregb8824 what group is that?
A+ on this video. Thank you for showing us how this is done. This video saves a lot of people a ton of money and the confidence to do this themselves which is priceless. 45,036 views, 45,036 clutches repaired by 45,036 viewers who could not have done it otherwise.... Thank YOU! - Liked & Subscribed.
He forgets to show one of the most important parts. When installing the clutch conversion kit make sure it is flush with the hub or you will have to break it down again when it doesn't work. You may have to rotate the purple piece a few times to get it flush. Otherwise, this video was very helpful. Thank you.
When you say flush, do you mean no space between the plate and the disc's ? I ride an 07 and considering doing this soon.
Yes
So well done. Thanks charlie. 6:39 pm
As painful as that was to watch is was very informative thanks bro!
Thanks Frank! The wife and here in SC and we ride the same bike and color. We been everywhere on the East Cost... from the "Keys" to Nova Scotia. My clutch needs replacing and I absolutely can't afford to pay to have it done and I have never done any mechanic work at all... but, after your video, I believe we can do this... thanks!
romeotangohotel when you do decide to do buy the barrnet clutch plate with there pressure plate kit. You will feel the difference with it on compared to the yamaha stock clutch. My wife and I also travel with this bike from California to Key west fl to Virginia and back 8,500 miles after we replace the clutch. Before with 2up bike would cruise around 60 - 70mph know with new clutch system it cruises at 70 - 80 and if you don't pay attention it will cruise at 90mph.
Nice job. Changed the clutch on a '01 650 vstar a while ago. Ugly job where everything from the corroded exhaust manifold nuts to the foot rest and rear brake pedal, engine side covers with oil filter and gaskets had to come out. Made the job much longer.
Hi frank ,just a quick thank you for this clutch video.did my 06 venture this morning no problems a little over an hour . Sandman.
Great to hear the video helped you out in changing your own clutch on your motorcycle even that it took you little over and hour at least you did it. Check out my other video I made on the venture that could also help you out also subscribe to the channel if you haven't yet its free it will let you know of new videos I upload.... thanks for watching and commenting.
Doing mine next week. 2006 Yamaha Royal Star Tour Deluxe. Great video.
Hi Frank, I have an 06 with 40,000 miles, clutch is slipping under hard acceleration, so I'll likely have to do this replacement, many thanks as this makes it easy to understand and learn from. Subscribed! :-)
That would be a lot easier for using extension on it and without the swivel.
Just did this on my 07 Royal Star tour deluxe. It's a pretty straightforward job. Folks if you want to keep your pipes oil free, shake of the excess oil when removing the clutches and clutch plates from the container you soak them in overnight. Also, wrap that part of your exhaust with saranwrap to keep the oil off of it. Just don't forget to remove it after. I'm happy with the clutch upgrade, it has a better throttle response when you accelerate. It pulls a bit harder than it did with the stock clutch.
Great Video, ordering the kit tonight, glad to see that you don't need to re-install the spring cable.... :-)
John Nelson it's made a big difference since I changed my clutch and spring plate to Barnett.
Thank you very much for this video, I also ride a venture and in my opinion I will soon have to do the same work. The clutch starts to lead.
Thanks for watching and glad to hear your going to work on your owned bike
I hope after all this he put a V Max clutch in ! Works way better than the original!
Thank you . I just got done putting mine in following this video... and it worked lol... Keep up the good work...
Shootam Up love to always here my video's help another rider in saving money and due it themself thanks for watching and commenting.
Can i ask you what kind of brush you ide for telové old seal? Thank you
Very good video.. a quick question? Did you used silicone on the gasket?
Question is this the TF model. There are 3 xvz1300 models.
Frank, thanks for the excellent video.
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Thank you so much for the video . I got a 2008 with 64000 and it's just starting to slip with two people on it . .
Get the Barnett clutch package that's what I put on mine it kickass. I ride with wife and trailer and you go up mountian like nothing. Thanks for watching like to hear my videos helps others.
Isn’t there a ring that goes between the springs and the bolts. At least my 1100 Barnett clutch spring does. Just wondering?
Off topic question., Do these motors have self adjusting tapers? Thanks ahead.
Very useful video, thanks Frank.
Where did you find the extended hex wrench that did the angle?
Great video Frank, thank you!
Craig Kirkpatrick thank you for watching and liking the video if you haven't yet subscribe to the channel for future video update it's free....agian thank you for watching
I'm mid replacement. Does it matter that the old plates had 2 ends with kitchen and the barnettes dont?
Great video. I just replaced my clutch with Barnett. And I followed your video.
But now my clutch lever will not pull in at all. Any ideas ??
Notice the clutch access. No need to remove saddlebags or seats or gas tanks or any plastic or fairings. Try replacing your clutch on the side of the road or in the parking lot of the motel you stayed in parking lot using just your tour kit tools on a Goldwing..
This is the main reason I do not own a Goldwing, but I am on my third Yamaha Venture right now. Serviceability
What was the torque again you said ? 5.8inch pound or 5.8 foot pound thank you
Can I ask you how did you managed to wear the clutch out enough to require replacement? I have owned 3 Venture’s. I put 138,000 miles on my 1986 Yamaha venture Royale, my 2002 midnight Venture 1300 Had 48,000 miles on it when I sold it..There was not the slightest hint of clutch slippage or clutch drag or shatter or noise on either of those machines. I’m just curious how your clutch got so bad that a required replacement so i can avoid problems on my currant 2008 RS Venture with 32k miles..
. Is it possible you had additives in the oil that contaminated the fiber clutch plates? I have heard that some automobile oil out there have “ friction modifier” additives that can make wet clutches in motorcycles slip.. no one should ever use any automobile oil in their motorcycle engine that uses the same oil to lubricate the clutch&transmission and the engine crankshaft and cylinders. Car oil will not stand up to a condition that takes place in motorcycle transmissions called Shear….
The government asked the oil manufacturers and the car manufacturers how they could make us all get more miles per gallon with our cars. They said, we could thin the oil out.. if every car in the nation gets even 1 mile extra mileage out of every tank of gasoline, that means millions of gallons of gasoline saved every day.
So they thinned out the oil in the late 1980s.. i’m sure everyone has noticed that the recommended oil in cars over the past couple decades has been 5W 20 or 0W 20, instead of 10W-30..The major two items they reduced the percentage of in the additives packages of oil is zinc and phosphorus. Those two ingredients make oil have a stronger film strength -resistance to sheer…..Sheer is when two gears come together under pressure and the metal to metal sliding against each other actually cuts through the oil, like your windshield wiper blade wiping the water off of your windshield, meshing gears with up to 100,000 pounds per square inch of pressure wipe the oil off of the gear faces. Zinc and phosphorus give the oil the strongest film strength to resist this catastrophic condition. car oils have less zinc and phosphorus in it today, because zinc and phosphorus make the oil thicker…. Only Motorcycle oil still has more of the ingredients to resist sheer. there is no place in a car engine that is as severe on oil like in every motorcycle transmission. The toughest place in an engine of a car on oil is where the cam and lifters or rockers meet as the cam is spinning.. that is usually the most severe environment in a car engine on the oil. but that is nothing like the more than 100,000 psi of force scraping the oil off of meshing gears in a motorcycle transmission.. not all motorcycles have 100,000 psi pressure on transmission gear faces, but there are several super bikes out there that have been doing that since 1989. Motorcyclist magazine actually dedicated a multi page warning about using car oil and motorcycles because of the change of the additives package to car oil so get more miles per gallon in cars.. they actually said that there will be catastrophic transmission failures in motorcycles if people use car oil in their engines in the future.. after reading that, I have used nothing but motorcycle specific oil in my transmissions on all my motorcycles. Even the ones with dry clutches..
did you use car oil or some super Duper oil additive? I would like to know what would make a street bike clutch that is not under any severe conditions like racing, what would make that clutch go bad?
There is one scenario that could cause it to go bad. If for some reason the clutch was not releasing all the way like someone that would ride the clutch lever constantly holding it or like in a car if they would rest their foot on the clutch pedal. That would cause the clutch to slip, causing it to burn out/wear out..
I tried to see if there were dents from the fiber clutch plates in your clutch basket. Those dents prevent your clutch from separating when you pull the clutch lever in. The aftermarket fiber clutch plates must be softer than the motorcycles clutch basket or they will put dents/ ware divots in the basket..
and most motorcycles especially Yamaha‘s, the very first metal clutch plate is beveled on the outer edge that faces out. I hope you got them back in in sequence because it will not operate correctly if you do not have that beveled edge metal clutch plate in the first position..
I’m sorry I did not listen to your voice during this video. That whistling was nauseating so I just watched with the sound off
Hi frank, thanks for the amazing video, i have a problem, with my clutch. It has a banging sound when clutch is released, when im pulling the clutch the sound stops, can u tell me what kind of problem is it and how
To solve it? Thank you so much 🙏🏻 best of luck 🙏🏻
You said 5 lbs, that is inch pounds or ft lbs? And I'm reinstalling barnett clutch plates and friction as well, I thought I had heard different sizes is that correct? 🤔 and as far as the turning what did you push in I'm not understanding that
Like the video good information that i can use if or when i need to change my clutch... But man I wanted to reach through the screen and help you out. First i would have handed you a dry rag to wipe those oil covered hands off then took the Damn swivel socket off and put it somewhere until i needed it, yes i was cussing. I think i have issues when it come to someone who uses the wrong tools for the job. Then i would have gotten the extension and the deep socket so you could get those spring bolts in without fighting them like you were doing with oily hands and a swivel socket... Then for a rule of thumb and as Brian Vigue mentioned, always make sure the clutch conversion kit is flush with the hub. and another rule of thumb is when tightening any part with close bolt pattern in close circle you must tighten in sequence to prevent wobble or you will feel it when traveling down the road and it could damage the clutch. Just my two cents
Are you sure you don't have OCD?
@@fz1205 No I don't have OCD lol
I have a 2006 1300 cc, 5 speed that has the whine in it. Does this solve the problem?
Great video. Thanks for showing us how it's done :-)
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I am looking at doing this with my 2006 with 134000 kms on it. Slipping at hard acceleration. What is the part number for the gasket you used?
How did you get them bottom bolts off on cover with exhaust in the way?
Look at the video at the 1 min mark and you can see the Allen wench type I used...
How to bleed the clutch I have a 2008 royal star venture 1300? I've tried several times and it's still spongy. Can't roll my bike in first gear.
I am suscribed already, I am going to support your videos.
Is this a 2 cylinder or 4,?
Got a question. On the Barnett Clutch Spring Conversion Kit does it come withe the friction plates and the steel plates? I went to the Barnett site and it looks like the are sold separately? Also, there is a so called spring towards the back and I've heard you dont have to re-install it? I'll try and send you a link to the Barnett site. I called them to ask and they are currently closed. Any help appreciated .....Thanks.Ricky
Frank, I was a little confused at the first of your video. Did the plates, friction and metal come withe the $150.00 Barnett kit or did you have to pay extra for them?
Ricky Willis if you go to ebay they have them there friction and steel plates sold together also get the Barnett spring upgrade sold separate you will noticed the difference. Also if you looked at the video when I started putting it back together I stated that I didn't put the back spring wire back on. Bike already has over 20,000 since I did this video...
Thanks, Frank I did see that option for the heavy duty spring and was wondering if worth it. Many thanks for your video and help. Keep up the good work. Your video best on the tube for Yamaha Venture clutch replacement .Ride easy my friend...Ricky
i love my royal star !very good bike ,more confortable and V four is very strong !.
Thank you for this informative video! Very good sir!
Bob T thank you for watching and liking the video.
Hey Frank, I have a 1 problem, not with a clutch, with one way bearing, how I can deinstall it from the bike? with what type of key? Thanks a lot!
Андрей Васильев from what I have seen and what I've been told they are press on you will have to press them out. Another way is if yours is missing bearings get an old one From another bike and remove just the bearing and reinstall it on your bike. They also have rebuilt Kits that also you can buy. Thank for commenting and subscribe for future video if you haven't yet...
have you another video for royalstar?
What type of video you looking for
Je suis français j habite Nîmes . J aimerais le faire sur ma royalstar mais bon ... pas facil bisous à vous deux de france
@@franklisatravels9651 vidange embrayage etc
I did not see you align the splines on disks - there is a notch to follow on clutch basket (disks have one notch, and across from it three); also you did not reinsert the spring keeper after the two initial disks/plates. Can I ask why? perhaps you explained but did not listen to audio. Any issue upon completion from altering from these two steps?
Jeff pollard I upgraded to a Barnard clutch pack doesn't require it only if you use yamaha clutch you do. Also about 14:50 of video I mention It didn't install the wire back on using a Bernard clutch pack you do require installing it back if you use yamaha clutch pack. Since I did this upgrade I have riden close to over 30,000 mile with wife and camping tailer behind from California to Virginia and back with no issues whatsoever. Thanks for your comment.
Bro, regards!! Recently i have check the piston compressor in cold my RV Yamaha has 90psi and in hot 60psi in all four Piston the Yamaha guides said should be 15 bar, what's is over 200pis ,i am so confused,my RV has 80000 miles,does not burn oil, and all sparks plug are clean .could you help me with comments?
If your talking about the final drive yes you use sae 80 oil. On the cover you should have a big screw were you fill the final drive below that that is a very small screw call the we hole take that screw off. Add oil thru that big screw until oil starts coming out then its full then put small screw back on and big screw then your done......
Good Video...
I'm not sure if BIG 1 litre plus Yamahas are just harder on clutches in general but On my 1600cc roadstar silverado, I had to replace the clutch due to slipping which became worse under heavy torque. Prior to the clutch going, i had changed over to a good synthetic oil (yamaha and motorcycle compliant) on my twin cause i was riding lots and i'm a synthetic guy. The short of it, litre plus yamaha clutches don't really like synthetic unless, from what i was told, its yamylube synthetic. I wasn't going to pay that kind of money or take the chance that my clutch fails again due to any synthetic. The ins and outs of running synthetic on my bike, well i stopped after clutch replacement and went onto running a premium brand dino oil. So i used Motol oil, bought it bulk from a local repair shop and had no other clutch slippage what so ever...
On gasket replacement i have found its always good to wipe a "thin" smear of heat treated silicone on one side of the gasket just use your finger then press onto the clean case and let dry.. it has never let me down.
I've been using Castrol synthetic oil on my Yamaha venture for over 6 years with no problems. The clutch slippage is do to ware and tear on the clutch mostly the Yamaha spring plate gets worn fast. That's why I went and got barnett clutch upgrade instead that has actually heavy duty individual springs. Since this video I have traveled close to 30,000 miles with wife on back and pulling a trailer and up and down hills with no issues best investment I did.
@@franklisatravels9651 a Barnett upgrade would surely correct. I merely was referring too stock clutch situations. My thoughts were on synthetic oil in general does not work well with stock wet clutches. Not sure how long you were using synth oil before your clutch went. Mine went after two or three oil changes using synthetic, under two up riding and abundance of torque the clutch "plates" couldn't handle it and were done relatively fast. The springs and clutch case were good.. the bike was a 1600 v-twin so synthetic oil it was too slippery for the stock roadstar clutch. Stock yamy wet clutches don't do well with synthetic oils...
I am contemplating an 84 1200 V Royale. I'm not mechanically inclined but willing. Enjoyed the video but would have liked more detail in the verbal description. For instance: is there a right way and wrong way to insert all those plates? You did not mention notches or guides. No disrespect but it was good to watch a video with someone who struggles a bit with tools. My handy buddies grind their teeth watching me work. The major issue with the 84 I'm considering is the 2nd gear is gone (like every VR of this venture) do you have a video for that? I'm feeling more confident watching your video.
Hello Frank, do you know how much oil and what kind shall have the middle gear case on RS Yamaha 1300? I have checked out all repairs manual, i could not find any details. What I did was to to remove the cover to make an inspection, many black oil came out!! Thanks in advance
JAL Larra are you talking about where the transmission is at.
Frank & Lisa Travels , thanks Frank, sorry my poor English, it is about how many oz and what kind of oil shall have the middle gear case , when i removed the cover (left side near to the middle drive gear ) Many oil came out , the oil looks like SAE 80, but i don't know how much i should refill. The refill bolt is just back from the engine oil bolt. I appreciate your time bro.
@@jallarra378 if you mean the final drive at the rear wheel. then it is SEA 80 oil, the middle gear is the bevel gears that turn through drive 90 deg and sends it via the drive shaft to the wheel, and is engine oil
Большое спасибо за это видео катаюсь тоже на вентуре и по моему скоро предстоит проделать такую же работу.Сцепление начинает вести.
Can't read what it says. Sorry
@@franklisatravels9651 Please tell me the grip must be put in the oil. Thank you.
You must soak clutch pads in oil before installing them on. I soaked mine overnight then installed them on my bike...
@@franklisatravels9651 Thank you, I understand everything. Tell me, if I have questions about the motorcycle, can I write to you?
Yes you can.
Amigo, again from Japan thank you I have replaced the clutch based on your kind video "not spring" , may I ask you where in USA CAN I order spare parts with low budget? Best regards
JAL Larra best place will be ebay.com if you need used parts lot of motorcycle salvage stores on there....
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First time when I put full synthetic 10W40 Royal Purple Max Cycle oil my clutch started to slip, just wondering with this BARNETT cutch can we use full synthetic in Yamaha Venture bikes or Royal Star bikes ??? does anyone tested it ? user manual call for simple 10W40 mineral oil ....any thoughts would be appreciated . thx.
i just serviced mine with lucas 10w/40 semi synthetic .. seems to be alright so far
@@stanz1847 I didn't notice clutch slippage immediately it takes some time for friction plates to soak new oil well.....few hundred kilome....and it only slips in 5th gear a little bit i see it on a tachometer rpm jumps on full throttle around 120 130km/h
@@dejanmeki ill have to keep an eye on it lol 🤞
@@stanz1847 for me its too late I rode so much already but I will install both Barnet clutch kit and Barnet plate conversion kit with heavy duty springs ... I am already at 62K but slippage happened first time at around 35K
You should point out, before you begin removing bolts, it is necessary to drain the oil. This procedure is scarry on paper but very easy for anyone to do.
Hi Frank. The first clutch plate that you put in was that different from the other clutch plates. Also to push the clutch plate in did you just screw them down to keep them from spinning, and did you say you were or were not having trouble with the yamaha crank case gasket. thank you Vince. This will be my first time attempting this.
vincent shobe yes the first clutch plate is thinner then the rest of them. after you install the black circle brace right under it. then you install the next plate.
the spring conversion plate when I snug the bolts forgot to push in tight before so the clutch plates were loose that's why I was able to turn it easy. I caught myself and correct it that's why I was able to tighten to the correct pounds.
Thank you Frank
Hi Frank I have the clutch plate on but it's not rested against the friction plates do I keep rotating the clutch fit around until it lays against the friction plate
vincent shobe make sure the center pin is in the hole and slightly push plate in tight same thing happen to me that's why the clutch was spinning if you have to take pressure plate off and reinstall it should work.
You said you did not use the spring cable, did you find any issues without that? I am redoing mine in 2 weeks. Garage wants $1000, do it myself for $300, greatly appreciate your videos they are helpful and easier then reading the maintenance manual.
Michael Owens yes if you put the Barnett clutch pak you dont have to put back the wire spring on. Yes barnett pak cost just under $300 if you buy Yamaha clutch make sure you line up the tabs the same way you take them out. On barnett clutch you won't have to worry about that.
Just as an update, I just finished my replacement and short test and working awesome, long ride tonight to really test it but thank you for the video it helped a ton with confidence to do it myself.
Michael Owens great to hear you accomplish replacing your clutch using my video has a reference. How was your long ride afterwards go.
Frank & Lisa Travels it was a great ride about 4 hours but the clutch performed awesome!
Hi do you need the spring cable on the factory clutch? I have a 97 royal start tour deluxe
Hallo Frank. Big thanks. What you speak at 14-58. Please type this information in the paper. Spring, cable, dealer...?
one thing to watch.....the plate can go on in 6 positions as there 6 bolts.....the clutch will only operate properly in 2 of the 6 spots. Yamaha has a index mark on the stock pressure plate to line things up, the Barnett does not.
Neil McRobbie your correct if you are installing Yamaha stock clutch you will have to line up the marks on all clutch plate to work properly. Barnett clutch doesn't have the marking and according to Barnett and Yamaha doesn't required to be line up just put in correctly. it so far working awesome thanks for the. omment...
trust me......it only goes in properly 2 out of 6 ways....I'm referring to bolting the pressure plate onto basket.......not the clutch plates.
if you notice at around 27.18 minute.....the pressure plate is still spinning..(stop video)......its obvious he had to remove all the bolts and springs and correctly re-seat the plate..(start video).....as you say they only fit 2 of 6 ways.....
I wondered that too... the video says "the clutch wasn't pushed in" then shows it fixed, but doesn't address how it was fixed...
how many miles did you get out of your clutch?
T Z when I changed my on this video my bike had about 122,000 miles know since this video and changing its about 139,000 miles and still strong..
Attention, to solve problem about slipping cluth, need only replace the last one "half" cluth plate with metal spring to full size one. Checked on 3 bikes ;)
Yannkes I look at that if you ride local nomore then 100 miles around where you stay I'll consider that but if you ride 30,000 miles a year and out of state I wouldn't even think of just replacing one clutch. that's why I changed all of them and pressure plate.
be extremely careful when torquing the bolts. Torque is very low, like 5 pounds. I used the wrong kind of torque wrench and had to buy a new clutch basket.
I did the same thing on a Triumph, a word to the wise is to put the torque wrench away and just do it up so it doesn't move, save yourselves some heartache
inch pounds of torque..not ft pounds lol
That looks really dangerous, having to put pressure on the bolts to get them started... Its super easy to cross tread a bolt when you start them with a wrench or ratchet.. I was waiting for it to happen, he got lucky.... not sure if there is some other way to compress the springs first bit wow..
thank you sir~
Great video
I'm sure you wife made you shower outside and then power wash the garage.
Lol
Be safe brother
a video like replacing spark plug Yamaha royal star venture
A "speed handle" would've helped the reassembly.
What would've helped was change sockets on the wrench and if he wiped his hands of oil....
and a regular socket
My bike was acting funny today. When I shifted 2nd and 3rd gear I pressed the gas and it had a 2 second delay befor it grabbed and speed up. I hope clutch is not going out
Venture is not designed for driving around a chimney Decision is Your of course - This solution is for people who want save some money and be sure that is ok. Inside cluth, this metal "half" plate is a spring, makes easy pull cluth. In my case always
this half friction plate was burned there where is this spring. Here In Europe nobody use Barnett and other replacement kit, is not available like in USA. People remove metal plate spring and this thick wire ring set and driving around Europe mountains ;)
know I come to understand why you would only change plate and stock spring your in Europe ok... have a friend there and he mention that he can't do d them there. That is for the comment...
the venture uses the same clutch as the V Max , search for V Max , Barnett clutch spring conversion. there is a site in UK sells barnett clutch spring for 120 gbp exactrep.com/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?WD=clutch&PN=Spring-clutch-conversion--Barnett-%2e-38%2ehtml#SID=20
Спасибо дружище✊
If you want accuracy never use an extension or swivel with a torque wrench.
Just a suggestion, that one wears dish washing latex gloves, so your hands are not bathed in cancer-causing engine oil. Not good at all...causes cell mutation as well as nerve neuropathy.
You forgot about blocking the first shields.
jaki partacz, zapomniał wsadzić po pierwszej tarczy ciernej z przekładką zabezpieczenia. Widać że chyba pierwszy raz w życiu zabierał się za wymianę sprzęgła. Nawet nie sprawdził czy hydraulika odpowiednio chodzi i czy nie wypadałoby i tam zaglądnąć. Następnie tarcza dociskowa powinna lekko wejść tak aby dokręcenie śrub na sprężynach odbywało się bez większego wysiłku a u niego widać że nie do końca spasował koło dociskowe w koszu sprzęgła. Pewnie po dopaleniu oddał moto do serwisu he,he.
@@Mcdoktor he he mnie się pytasz? sam jesteś "twój mechanik" więc powinieneś wiedzieć
Пружину не поставил!
Power tools!!!
That is not a 1100.cc enginge l o l
en français dans le texte lol
I puked after 8 minutes of wistle.
Listen man, no disrespect to you for workin on your bike, you ain't perfect and we all make mistakes one time or another, but I'm tellin you straight that if I was there I would have instantly SMASHED the damned radio or whatever was playing that infernal whistle and twang on repeat for half an hour...omG I think I just permanently lost some sanity after hearing it for so long....