Mixed feelings on this one, aftercare is super important but I have had artists attempting to shill products under the guise of giving aftercare instructions.
I still have a hard time finding consensus though. Body care is a fairly exact science. Why do tattoo artists have different methods/advice? The inconsistency in after care advice has actually kept me from getting desired tattoos.
@@Hamrik_Oswald I just follow what each person says exactly because they way each person tattoos varies and because of that your healing process can vary as well
“Overly” being the key word here. There comes a point where being picky becomes “too picky”. Their style might not match yours exactly, assuming you are also an artist with your own style...and what you have in your head isn’t necessarily what everyone else has in theirs. Just another way of looking at it.
As a tattoo artist, this irked me too. A client is allowed to be as picky as they want, this is a mark that is going to be on their body forever. Nitpick my art to your heart’s content, it’s more important to me that you love your tattoo than for you to immediately love my art.
@@taylorkane2828 it's because these are world famous tattoo artists that book super far in advance and have a certain style/niche that they do not go outside of. they turn down a lot of designs and clients. obviously a tattoo artist in whatever town you're in isn't going to have the same attitude as a millionaire artist that tattooed LeBron James bro
A lot of these artists are by appointment only, so people coming in and wanting something ugly from pinterest right this second probably gets annoying day after day
Yeah, you certainly weren't listening. Everything they said was reasonable, but you clearly lack the ability to try and understand where their coming from.
I asked for a really specific piece once. I was pretty direct about what i wanted. And then on the day of the tattoo he shows me the design and its absolutely nothing like what i described. And then he seemed kinda pissed when i declined. Respect what your customer asks for. Its their body. The art they choose is supposed to be about THEIR self expression. Not yours.
I think they were complaining about the overly picky people. I can imagine that those people can be anoyying. But also, the tattoo artist may be the one doing the tattoo, but at the end of the day, it is MY tattoo, on MY body, so I have the right to be a bit picky (a bit picky, not overly picky)
That same EXACT thing happened to me! Like, I had my boyfriend take a photo of my back, then I spent days photocopying and drawing and refining the design to give a strong idea of how I wanted it. I wanted this sort of soft, floral motif and that's what I set out, and I took it into the shop and the guy was like 'ok let me come up with some stuff and your first session will be in a few days'. Sure, I thought, it'll be great to get some input about placement or flow or whatever, I was open to collaboration to an extent... so I come back for my session and he's done these horrible, sharp tribal flowers that were nothing like the ones I'd brought in. He'd just changed it to look more 'badass' or whatever, more to his liking. When I said 'no I wanted the flowers like the ones I showed you' he got all offended and said 'usually the artist has some input' and so on. It was only when his boss was like 'I think she knows what flower shapes she wants' that he got the message. I was about to pay the guy hundreds of pounds and I'd be stuck with whatever he did for the rest of my life, I couldn't imagine trying to strongarm a client like that. It's so weird that this profession seems to be rife with this particular kind of entitlement, is anybody else like that? Hairdressers? Manicurists? Makeup artists?
@@peggy7744 Tattoo artists are people too. Some are dicks, some are great. No artist I've been too has tried to change something I said I wanted that exact way - it sounds like you were unlucky with your artist. Don't ever feel pressured to get the tattoo if you don't like the design on the stencil. If they won't work with you, I guarantee there are 10 more artists who will
Kind of like when actors try to alter the script and the director says no you are paid to say the line that’s written on the frickin page. It’s my body and I will be the judge of what goes on it thanks all the same
The “how much” thing being annoying is kinda weird. Sometimes people are just looking for what they can afford and I don’t like the idea wasting an artist’s time by making an appointment and seeing them, only to find out that I cannot afford them. It would make me feel like shit. Maybe it’s because I’m from another culture but artists are almost always able to give me a quote, or at least a range where I live.
Also if you’re on a tight budget don’t go to a top artist like these ones, because you just KNOW that they’re gonna be expensive. Good tattoos cost more but atleast you have something good on your body.
I am willing to blame the editing and set up of the questions for some of those, ut some are truly silly. Especially since some are to be kind of expected in this line of work.
@ Not all tattoo artists are entitled. I go to this shop where this couple works and they are honestly very lovely and humble. Not all tattoo artists are huge and famous with a matching ego it all depends on where you go.
Picky is normal. Overly picky is not. I experience it as a visual artist. If you're telling me exactly how to do everything, why are you having me do it? When that happens, it usually looks like trash because a non-artistic person is art directing and they have absolutely no clue what they're doing.
You can't be picky. You are suppose to trust them. You went and chose this artist because you saw the work they did. All you have to do as a customer is give an idea and pay. That's all, nothing more.
@@deb1920 Very simple, cause I don't know how to tattoo. Saying any customer does not know what he/she wants is also a bit crude. Just because people don't tattoo, it doesn't make them non-artistic..
You should give the artist your idea and budget. If you're tight on money, then you should be spending that money on things you actually need. If you go into a tattoo place saying "I want a tattoo of 'insert whatever', how much?" its perfectly understandable they get annoyed. What size, what color, what placement. All that has a price factor to it.
Not always actually. I agree you should have the money. I always bring an extra two hundred or so for cushion, tip and possibility of free time to add extra. But to act like its a straight forward service, price arrangement yeah its not. I think maybe what people are saying that your snooty comment doesn't address is that its not so straight forward. There is some artsy fartsy bend to it. @@dreamonline1996
lol for sure, I got in the shop at 11 am and started getting tatted at 3 pm. My tattoo artist was the sweetest bean in the world though, and I did ask for a last minute adjustment, so I don't mind
@@maryon-vj1rm yeah I've had that exact same situation happen too. I'm not worried about the payment because an artist would never (at least my artists) charge me for waiting time. But my issue is I'm usually getting tattooed 5-7 hours and it's not fun to just wait for fucking hours before getting tattooed.
@@sammybowker7823 yup that's what we get for loving big tattoos, we're fckin DRAINED by the end of the day, especially when we have to wait longer like this
I'm p sure she meant like. Non clipped toe nails or clean feet. I agree with her behavior though p snobby. But would you wanna touch someone's feet and their filthy stinky or unclipped nails?. Bruh that is gross imo
1) entitled hipster artist with a secret stick jammed up their ass. 2) 100/hr when the job u did dosent even justify 10$/hr 3) having to ask permission and ur opinion on something, to pay u to do something.
These tattoo artists: "Being overly picky" My tattoo artist: Stopped and asked/checked with me many times if my tattoo looked like I wanted it. Even asked me to go and look in the mirror to make sure her work was what I wanted. And she welcomed any "pickyness" I had.
100% true. My artist was probably picker than I was. I can appreciate him being a perfectionist so that I don’t have to. It really takes the pressure off
I get that changing designs last minute may be annoying but I feel like they should also understand ‘cause it’s something that stays on your body forever. literally.
Depends on the artist and the change you want. While my stencil dried I asked if it would be ok to add color to what had been planned as a black & grey piece. He was fine with it and even thought it was a really good change when we were done.
Its gonna be on your body for life, you should know exactly what you want before you see the artis. You should 100% love somthing before your appointment.
When I first started getting tattooed the only way to get rid of them was to drop your bike at 60 or walk into a belt sander. I went into this believing these things are forever and I'm going with that. I've even seen artists getting tattoos removed. The permanence has faded.
Tattoo Artists often seem to feel that the process is about them. We admire your skill and knowledge but this is OUR vision and it needs to be a team effort. I cant imagine not being “picky” about something being added to my body for the rest of my life.
@Bunker Sieben If they don't think a tattoo is good for their reputation then they can turn the client down. But it is the client's right to be picky because it's their vision that they will have on their body forever.
i also think it's a bit of a gaslighting eg if you didn't come with sb and approve the piece and later you didn't like sth about it, they'll just say that you agreed to it anyway. at the same time, sb nitpicking your art at every move can be hella annoying
I think it depends on the person you take with you and why if it's to take time and pain out a little or it's your first tattoo and you can sit still it's not a problem
"Too picky" "Asking the price beforehand" "They want the tattoo in a too specific of a direction" I think these are legitimate things to being up with your artist. I mean its permanent. I'm not going to go get any service done without asking the price beforehand.
well the price thing works for small tatts cuz they can gage the time required, but something like a sleeve, the time it takes can vary and therefore the price as well. Speaking from experience, I’m getting a sleeve done and the guy was straight honest, he said it to me straight, could be between 4-7 sessions so the price can be 2k like it could be 3k.
I think it’s reasonable to at least have an estimate. Of course you can’t give an exact price for a bigger or detailed piece, but I should know if I’m looking at 100 - 150 or 2k.
@@RhodaPhone98 I think its probably that they get a lot of people who come in and say "how much for a tattoo" without any specifics given. Sorry but you can't give an estimate on a tattoo that you don't have any specifics about.
I think what they were trying to say is that it annoys them that, before saying what they want in a tattoo, people ask how much it’ll cost, as if it’s the same regardless of the size and design
It maybe more on the concept of they want the exact price for a sleeve, they dont know what the exact price is, they dont know exactly how long its gonna take. So if the artist says its gonna be say 1,000 bucks, but it took longer and suppose to cost more. Now they are losing money, cuz the artist said it will be 1,000. That would annoy me if i was an tattoo artist
@@dominicbullene943 it's a question i always ask when i go to get inked. some tattoo places in my area charge per piece, others charge by the hour regardless of what you're getting tattooed. so it just makes sense to ask that for me. i never knew that wasn't normal in every area to have some charge per piece and others by the hour.
I'm guessing they mean when that's the first question people ask about the tattoo. They come in and go "Hey I want a tattoo, how much?" well, how much depends on a multitude of factors. Now imagine getting asked that question a dozen times a day for 5+ years. You'd get annoyed after all that also.
@@imsorryehh4905 Their job would then be to ask the questions needed to determine the price. When you go to a shop to fix your car how much, they can't tell you until they look at the car but they can give ballparks based on what it COULD be.
I remember asking this question to my artist during my first tattoo. His answers? - People being distracting - Customers not taking the process/aftercare seriously, - And while he would agree to tattoo almost anything, he personally preferred tattoos with meanings as opposed to just copying someone else. All were annoyances, but they were vague and not personally judgmental toward the client (unless if the client wanted something really stupid/dangerous, like hate symbols). He certainly said nothing along the lines of "Get your toes painted before I tattoo your feet" or "Don't be so picky" Maybe it's the fame, but their "complaints" just scream "I'm high maintenance. Please don't come to me to get work done."
They're all Hollywood weirdos every last one of them basically insulted by asking if they're affordable I'd rather go get a £30 tattoo by someone I could sit in a room with than pay $2000 to someone who specifically rips off clients this is the generation that started that by the hour bullshit Vs a tattoo is just worth X amount.
bigJ thejoker my artist worked on my tattoo for an hour then went to target for an hour then came back and finished... took 3 hours for a 4 hour tattoo
@@togapika No there are some WORLD class artist in prison!! The best work I’ve EVER seen was in prison. They have nothing but time to prefect their techniques. I’d rather get mine done in prison then on the street honestly. You can get your entire back done by a master for $20-$40!!!! And some prisons have color ink just like the street.
Do you not have tattoos? You should get it done alone. I’ve gotten a few tattoos and you have to be completely still and you can’t just be talking the whole time loudly to your friend and have them trying to look and distracting the artist
@@yagirl177 Yes, I've got a lot more than a few. A good artist can work while talking, mine talks all the way through... also if you watch these artists work they talk through it too.... at a camera! A person isn't a distraction or no other clients would be allowed in the building. It's simply a case of some of these "elite" artists think they are gods.
@@yagirl177 I have two tattoos, the first one I got when I was 17 so someone had to be there to sign the permission form - my sister came with me. It was a small tattoo that took around 30 min and she helped me decide on a few details (since I agreed on a design when I made my appointment and the day of the appointment my tattoo artist told me that it wouldn't be possible, but also placement, etc.) and she was just there to support me. We weren't talking loudly or anything, most of the time she was just on her phone. I understand not wanting someone to take 3 other people to a tattoo apointment but I don't think it is reasonable to demand that your client comes alone. Tattoos hurt and are scary and some people just need a little bit of extra support.
i love the argument of “its not for yourself it’s upside down” like ah yeah it’s much more important for ppl to see my tiny ass tattoo of “i love you” in my dead mom’s handwriting the right way up than it is for me to see it mhm
I mean most people that get tattoos do it to show them off to others but yours sounds personal and if you simply tell them why you want it to face you then I doubt they'll complain....
this is so on point. Even if it's not too personal or meaningful - I want a couple lyrics of poetry or my favourite song tattooed on me, for example. Because I WANT TO BE ABLE TO READ IT every time I wake up. Why is it perceived as a bad thing?
yea i have a semicolon and my sisters initials under it, i won’t go into detail ab the meaning but i told my artist i want it facing me so i can see it/read it and have it for a reminder to keep going even when it gets tough and i’m not around her. my artist didn’t even question why i wanted it facing me, she just said “thank god for the stencil cause it might be shit if it was freehand upside down.”
Why are tattoo artists so annoyed when a customer asks how much it will cost?! Wouldn't they want to know if the customer can afford it so the artist doesn't waste their time? Ffs this is always brought up and I'll never understand why it pisses them off so much.
They said that it is annoying when it's the first question asked. If you go to tattoo artist solely because of the price it gives the feeling of underappreciation of their art. That's it. The money conversation is normal and important but shouldn't be the first thing that you ask. APPRECIATE. THE. ART.
@@JTIIIK maybe I do appreciate the art but I want to know if I can afford that art, I mean rough estimate for the size and color of the tattoo shouldn't be a problem
@@JTIIIK Oh ok, so explain the other videos where artists complain that the customer asks for a tattoo, then asks for the price and they state "if you want a tattoo it shouldn't matter about the cost"? Do artists want to waste their time in designing the work, going to the appointment, doing the tattoo, then afterwards tell the customer the price only for the customer to say "oh I can't afford that"? I got a tattoo from an artist 2 years ago and never going to him again because how rude he was when it came to me asking how much it was, gave him a 20% tip, still got pissy when I asked how much it was. The art was great, would recommend for that reason, but not the pissy attitude. Like I said, will never understand.
You should give them your idea and budget. They probably get multiple people coming in a day and asking "how much for a tattoo" without giving any details about the tattoo they want.
@@imsorryehh4905 It's their job to ASK and then answer based on those answers. It's the same at a salon! How much to go blonde? Well, depends how many bleach passes and toners etc you need...but you can give a ballpark.
@@xsugarplum3442 no it isn't. You give them a piece you want on your body. They give you how they want to give it to you. You can either deal with it or be a picky bitch to someone else. And if you can't afford an extra $50-$100 on a tattoo you shouldn't be paying for a tattoo. You should be paying bills.
torren rachu if I have budgeted $600 for a tattoo then my max spending on the tattoo will be $600. If I briefly describe what I’m wanting and ask how much something like that tends to cost, and their answer is $650-700 then I need to know that I can’t afford that tattoo from them at that time. (Notice how with a budget $50-100 can make you unable to afford it)
@@BigStreams_ you're explaining a process in which there's communication. The artists are saying that the price is literally the first thing asked about without (or even with) a brief description without detail and important bits are stupid questions. Not to mention, people usually WAY underbudget for a tattoo. You seem like you have the respect enough to not be a picky bitch, but ignorant people who care more about money than the meaning or think artists TRY to make your cost as high as possible. You be respectful and they'll be respectful. Your budget is important to them, but your piece is much much more important and you asking price right out the gate is a red flag..
Yeah I understand that they are artists but it's not like I'm just a canvas... Canvas doesn't care what's on it... but I do. And the canvas doesn't pay a lot of money to be painted on... I do. Canvas doesn't have it's own art tase... I do. They should understand all that...
Well you should pick a tattoo artist that has the style you like, they arent going to change there art style for you. Your not the center of the world if you dont like the style find another person who has a style to your liking. That should be obvious.
puppers first yes but a tattoo artist cant just make a change to a person’s tattoo because its their art style after agreeing to do it. (Making a change without the consent to)
@@FrogReign yeah but for example you can like a lot of Van Gogh's paintings but you probably don't like all of them... Same applies to the tattoo artist. Not everything that they tattoo is good.
As a health professional I truly appreciate Ryan's point. The healing process is different for all of us, follow the instructions given and be responsible.
I think when they're saying "picky" its more micromanaging everything the artist is doing. "Oh you should be doing this here and use this color here and end the line here and make sure this does blah blah blah" You aren't a tattoo artist, you don't know how its all going to interact with your skin, movement etc.
@@thegirlwiththatface I was asking a simple questions to someone else and i was asking just to ask u do not have to ask that question and have those intentions :)
I think they don’t understand the mentality of someone who isn’t a tattoo collector. They have so many tattoos that it doesn’t even matter if they let an artist do their own thing with one of them.
Really?? It’s annoying becase we are being “too picky” like bro I’m giving you hundreds if not thouasands of dollars for a piece of art on my body that is FOREVER yeah I’m gonna be picky about it and make sure it’s perfect for me ffs.
But you've already looked through portfolios at this point? You already found someone you like and *trust*. By being *picky* you're conveying that you know better than them about tattoos and *their* images. Are you picky at the doctor's office? Does a dentist have to let you take the wheel on occasion? How about your mechanic? Do you stand behind him and say "hey, don't scratch that!". Or do you just go back if you have any issues?
@@caseykirk4940 wot? its a tattoo, specifically made and designed, and put on your body for you. If the artist can't get what you envisioned in the tattoo that is a problem. Yeah, they're experienced artists but they aren't perfect either.
@@caseykirk4940 their image can go sit in the corner and spin this is my tattoo on my body its my vision the artist should give a fuck about not their personal taste in art
"It annoys me when they want to know the price early" Yeah, you know, maybe understand that for other people, this is a pretty large investment and also ... a business interaction. It is for you, you live off it. Don't act like you tattoo people for artistic charity.
There’s a way to ask for price. I’m not a tattoo artist, but I’ve seen people ask for price and have done it in a rude way... aka trying to haggle like you’re in a thrift shop.
I always get nervous about "complaining" because I don't want to annoy the artist. I don't want to micromanage every little thing. But also, this is going to be on my body forever and I'm paying a good bit of money for it. If something is off about it, it's going to bug me forever. Whereas the artist just has to be a little annoyed for our session. I always see it as a red flag when artists are vehemently against that kind of stuff because to me, how I feel about the tattoo should be the most important thing. Isn't the goal of the artist to give you something you're going to love and enjoy forever? If I was an artist, I'd rather have someone micromanage than have to live with a tattoo they don't like every day.
I got a tattoo yesterday, I felt like I was annoying the artist and I'm not 100% happy with it. But I have to learn to love it because I"m stuck with it now
These artists in this video are “famous” pretentious dickholes. Go into your local parlor and I promise you, they’re the nicest, most understanding people. I had my artist redo my stencil like 20 times, apologized for being picky and he said “dude it’s gonna be on you for life, I don’t mind at all”
I have to disagree here just a little. (I've had the same tattoo artist for a while so we're familiar with each other so maybe my situation is a bit different). Give your opinion, tell them what you want and what style you're looking for, but at the end of the day you are commissioning a piece of art. It comes with the artist part of tattoo artist.
@@bseiscio I understand what you're saying dude, their art is theirs and should be respected, but at the same time you shouldn't have to worry about looking like an asshole to someone who's putting something permanent on your body just because you want to change it
@@bseiscio okay let's run with that logic I commission a piece of art a bowl of fruit with red roses the artist agrees to it when I come back to see the progress the roses are now blue do you think I will be impressed now add the fact this will be drilled into my skin forever
A lot of these artists, not all but most are complaining about questions that make sense to be asked. Obviously we are not tattoo artists, and we do not have as much experience with tatts..
I think they're complaining more about how people ask the questions. If you were a tattoo artist and you had multiple people a day coming in and asking "How much for a tattoo" without any specifics about what they want, you'd get annoyed at that question also.
lol watching these as a tattoo artist is sad and hilarious. My clients are literally the sweetest human beings on earth, they're the only reason why I can do the job that I really love. they trust me with their bodies & I think that's extremly precious and valuable I'd absolutely never rant about a client like this! it's also a shitty format to ask these questions because It deepens the the narrative that as a client it is normal to feel intimidated by you artist while actually you should feel welcomed and understood. unless you want racist imagery, work that's culturally appropriated or sexist stuff the get the fuck out lol bye.
Just because your clients were little angels....doesn't mean that's true for everyone. Not everyone gets sweet clients who will be as nice as you described. Believe it or not, some clients can be assholes who are scummy or rude. Also they aren't giving names, they are just general stuff.
That's what I'm talking about. I feel like it's bc they're really popular and have a huge following. They think they're literally God for having over a million instagram followers
I dont care what you did on the previous clients, I care what you're doing on me. I have every right to be picky if I'm paying for you to do something permanent on my body
Right but itis similar to going to a plastic surgeon, nail tech, cosmotologistb etc. There is some level where you have to trust their knowledge and understanding of their craft.
@@allicuddles how are you comparing plastic surgeon to a tattoo artist? Ofcorse you gotta trust the surgeon, he knows his job 10x better than you. But when it comes to tattoos you got all the right to do whatever you like with it. It's. Your. Body. I'm all good with hearing the tattoo artist's idea, but if it's something I don't like, I'm still going for my initial design.
@@MARTIJUANA So your implication is that the tattoo artist doesn't know their job 10 times better than you do, and also that when getting cosmetic surgery you don't have the right to whatever you want to your body?
@@allicuddles when did I say tattoo artist doesn't know more than us? I said exactly the opposite thing, I would love to listen to their ideas and tips, but I'll still stick to my thing if I don't like theirs.
@@MARTIJUANA I asked if that was what you were implying since you seemed shocked I would compair two professionals who make a living changing people's physical apparances.
“Being overly picky” Mf I’m gonna have something permanent on my body Edit: Wtf 1.2k likes I haven't checked shit since I made this comment lmfao but anyways thanks yall
You go to a tattoo artist to have their impression of your idea on your body. If you want exactly what's in your head or phone go to a 50 an hour shithole they'll put anything on you. Being overly critical defeats the purpose, it's art... their art find an artist you like give them an idea and say go, you'll get a way better tattoo because they actually are passionate about what they're doing, its theirs not yours you just get to display it
Alexander Hodge not rlly they r reliable for Your body and Your tattoo that lasts forever so they wanna make sure its right and everyone has pet peeves its stressful enough
That's a mighty arrogant statement that the artist knows what's best for you? Unless they have been lifetime friends or significant others then how can they know what's best for a individual they just met? If that's true then I think that you should get a tattoo of sage brush on your face. Or better yet doing exactly what your parents want you to do as they know best what will work for you. Not trying to be rude here but attempting to make my point.
*Legit complaints:* •Kids in the studio •Being late/ reschedule w/out tattooer knowledge/consent/last minute •Farting purposefully like no one noticed •Poor hygiene •Being intoxicated •Moving around while being tatted •Being rude while asking about the tattoo, before and during the work •Pretending you know more than the tattooer •Taking care of the tattoo is the clients' responsiblity •Haggling a price •Hitting on the tattooer •Wanting to change the design image part way through tattooing. •Telling the tattooer " do what you want", and then being mad when they do *NOT legit complaints:* •Asking for a price as one of the 1st questions. Duh. Wtf is wrong with you people. •Upside down work. If that's what they want, it is their body. •Picky about the tat before work is started. Duh. They are gonna have it the rest of their life, not you. •Changing the design at the last minute before tattooing starts. It is annoying, but if they paying the price- suck it up. •Just because you are an artist doesn't make you Michelangelo. Even if you are, Fuck you and your preference for someone else's tat. It is theirs and not yours.
I agree with just about everything except for changing the design at the last minute. Artists spend a lot of time designing the work based on the client’s specifications before the appointment. If the design is suddenly changed the artist has to just wing it. That’s not only stressful in the moment but clients are the artists’ living portfolio of their work. It’s only fair that the representation of their work be the best they can produce. Especially if the client ends up not liking it because it was rushed and improvised, then they may write a bad review of the artist.
@@codq1329 well, yes. There is a lot of nuance with that specific point, which is why didnt go into a lot of detail. I think the point being, if someone wants a change, they have to say something. Then the artist must be allowed the time to do said change, whether it is minimal or a larger difference. Such changes cost time, time is money, so the client and the artist must work out pricing ( which I left in my original bullet point).
“when they micromanage” bro it’s going to be on their body forever, they’re allowed to be picky. they’re not just a canvas for u to execute your vision on lmao
@@kauilanikim2199 no, they mean not trusting the artist and being controlling and being nervous and showing it by constantly asking questions to show their anxiety
They should do one of from the perspective of the clients. I'll start: not being clear about prices before doing the work (no, i dont want a deal, i just need to know how much to budget for).
not sending me the design beforehand. I'm not going to nitpick it to death but I would like to know what I'm walking into and maybe there is one thing I'd like to tweak a bit. Now you have time to change that and I'm happy.
That’s why you say what you want and give them your budget, if they charge over that, then you could bitch at them but any good artist will stick within your budget
it's better to ask for a ballpark range for "this particular idea, that's this big, using mostly these colors", instead of "how much is a tattoo?". a lot of things can change commission work. i have a friend who makes custom furniture. it frustrates him to no end when people say "i want a bed". ...it's like asking "i want a car". well, you can buy a pinto, or you can buy a porsche... what are you looking for? what's your price range? what do you need and want? ...in that light, people start saying "okay, well, i want a twin bed that looks like this picture here, in this color wood"... and it creates a starting point to create an estimate. so, too, does the problem exist in art. "i want a tattoo". okay, do you want a black star outline on your thigh, or a photorealistic back piece in full color? asking for an average price for something of "this size" would be better than an estimate, which would be better than a solid price
Actually they aren’t filthy rich they have to ducking by those professional products to use it on you god damn body I’m sorry you think artists are rich but listen here they fucking aren’t
@@AngryPanda. how can they give you a price, unless they know what you want, how well you sit still, how often you'll change your mind half-way through, and how long they have to wait after you've passed out?
How is being too picky a bad thing?? We are the ones who are paying to have it on our body for the rest of our lives, not you. So you're damn right I'll be picky!
But the artist has planned what line is going to be where and what depth it is in the drawing and how its going to connect to what and all sorts of other things. There is a time and a place for the design process and it is not in the chair. Also, the tattoo artist probably has a fuck tonne more experience than you and knows that whatever it is you want “white” is just going to be faded in a month and blamed on them.
Ev M you dumb fucking bitch did you really just say that if you are displeased with them not being able to tattoo you like you want them then you should do it yourself
I’m a receptionist at a tattoo shop and though I understand these artists sound like divas, it would amaze you how many people walk in expecting a masterpiece sleeve for $200 and need it done in two hours. Being able to tattoo properly and well takes sooo much time and effort. Many people don’t understand that there are about a million factors that go into how good a tattoo will look when it’s healed.
lol right? this is a major red flag when getting a service done. Hairstylists also put a lot of money into their work. They also have bills to pay. They talk like this just once? They're closed in 6 months.
Potted Plant it’s going to be on that persons body FOREVER I think the least they can do is be specific about their own body and money that they’re paying for.. there shouldn’t even an argument there.
I think it's not that weird too. Since it's permanent it's not weird that you're worried or even scared how it'll turn out. Even if you know the artist is the best When something needs to be done in a certain way(like a project) I'm also constantly reminding the person that it should be this way etc. 🤷♀️ you're just worried about it nothing weird or wrong about it
I can understand artists getting upset about potential clients trying to score a "deal," but after I tell you what *I* want as a tattoo, the most crucial aspect left is *to find out how much it costs.* A lot of the annoyances these artists talk about just go along with the business - they seem to forget that a client is employing them, and yeah, they get to decide WTF they want on their bodies, paid for with their money.
Jane Timm Baxter exactly: AFTER you tell then what you want. But artists on this video are referring to people asking right away the cost of something without addressing important details such as size, placement, technique, etc.
That's after though. Rarely will they get annoyed at you asking the price after you've given them all the details. They're annoyed at the people who come into the shop and go "how much for a tattoo" without giving any details or specifics.
But asking after giving them an idea of what you want and letting them digest it, that’s an appropriate time. That’s not the first question. That’s not walking into a shop or hopping DMs and saying “how much is like a medium arm piece” with no indication of the actual tattoo you want
Yeah, its almost like they're being interviewed in a separate place from their workplace and asked their innermost thoughts and feelings about their work. Weird, huh? 🤔
They kinda would but just not in the tattoo industry, you got to remember that it’s basically their passion for art so even in the art industry they are still gonna have jobs
Well then, it's your prerogative to do your own research on the artists who tattoo in the style you want beforehand. You cannot micromanage someone after you ask them to tattoo you. You've got to trust that they have your best interest, which they probably do since no one wants a bad piece in their portfolio or a bad review. It makes the experience a whole lot worse for the both of you
@@Rachel-lc8jm I mean just because I admire most of your work it doesn't mean you get to decide for me. You'll be creating an unique piece just for me so even if I find your art amazing, I might not even like what you're planning. No matter how skilled of an artist you are, you will never know better than the client because the goal is to make the clients wishes to come true. Who cares about your portfolio... Your job is to make the client satisfied or you suck. I'd find it super annoying if my client was like "do whatever you want" and then walking out the door disappointed in any way. No matter how proud I am of the result it means I've failed. Your fans on instagram aren't the ones paying you or walking around with the result for the rest of their lives, spreading words about how disappointed they got. Do you care more about your own pride and fame than what you care about making the ones who ask for your services happy?
@Carissa Mcdonald Talking shit about another client to an artist next to them while their tattooing you. I once went with my bf when he got a tattoo, and one of the artists in the shop was talking shit about one of his clients to my bf's artist. It was so awkward to hear that.
They get mad when u ask how much. I'm finding out if I can afford it and not waste your time. These videos are showing me that tattoo artist are cry babies
I think it was aimed more towards people who just walk in and ask how much for a tattoo. Like, most places charge based on things like size, colour, style, so on and so forth, though I know some do charge by hour. Either way it would be annoying cus it makes your work feel cheap and worthless in the eyes of the client, and I'm pretty sure someone watering down your very work to the price is bound to be insulting and annoying. If you seriously wanted a tattoo from that person, the price shouldn't be too big a deal, since it means that you think their art is worth it
It’s their profession? And besides, tattoo artists aren’t mind readers. There’s a difference between tiny details being changed and changing the style of that artist.
Robin Persaud anybody getting a tattoo should research their artist before hand and actually enjoy their work before getting a custom design tattoo by them it’s just common sense don’t go to an artist if you don’t like their work.
@ I'm a welder by trade. My welds are considered art and they are productive to society as they are literally used to hold structures together. But if I demand $100+ a hour for my dangerous and exhausting work while acting like the customer is the biggest pain, I lose my job lol. Artists, musicians, actors, singers, they all act like their 💩 don't stink
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NPC 43887819 I think the difference with your job and all the other ones you mentioned is customer service. Since artists have to deal with a bunch of different personalities ranging from sensitive to downright psycho, you can’t really blame them for being judgmental. They do this for a living so have to deal with a bunch of bs in order to get paid
My cuz was getting a large quote on his chest, they agreed on the price and off he went working on it. Literally an hour left to finish he said yea its going to be another 300. Cousin payed it incase he fucked it up but I thought it was a disgrace. Hes told that many people that the guy done himself out of way more work
@@williamd-cloutier3848 Sorry that's bullshit. We've agreed on the price before going in, if they take longer than expected it's on the artist. Sorry mate, don't have another 300. Here's what we agreed on. I'm leaving.
Its a job where you put art on another human being, and if you fuck up it's literally on your ass and business. Not triggered it's called worrying about your business. Use your head dummy
I've several tattoos and I'm surprised by a couple of these answers. Asking price is bad? Then how the hell am I supposed to know what to pay you or how to budget for a bigger, several session piece? I get it can be annoying if someone comes in and the first thing they do is badger an artist about cost, but that's more about timing and rudeness than anything. I've never had an artist get irritated when we had to discuss pricing, so either these people have had a string of shitty, rude clients or they're just being unreasonable. As for being picky, damn right I am. I'm fine with the artist drawing up an idea on paper and showing it to me first (which is what was done with almost all of my tats), but you're out of your fucking mind if you think I'm going to let you go freestyle on my SKIN with something that'll be on me FOR LIFE. Unless you want to pay the bill when I have to go in for laser removal? No? Didn't think so. Any artist that gets annoyed over "nit picky" clients when it comes to permanent body modification needs to check their ego like yesterday.
Obviously you can ask the price but it shouldn't be the first question. Like some people go "how much for a sleeve?" and you're like ummmmmm well it depends on several things... I have several tattoos but I've never even had to ask for the price, I've always been given an estimate and the estimate has never changed, even once I paid 100 € less than the initial estimate.
They literally said it was annoying when it's the first thing people ask. Tattoos aren't done on flat rates. Most tattoo artists charge by the hour. These days, I would say expect like $150 an hour. So, without an idea of what they'll be doing, they literally can't give you a price. If you're serious about a tattoo, expect to pay good money. You can talk about rates and how many hours the tattoo will take, but that's what the consultation is for. No one said anything about going freestyle. The complaints about people being overly picky is referring to people who try to micromanage the tattoo. Tattoo artists' livelihoods are dependent on doing good quality tattoos, and being overly picky as a client can lead to design choices that look misshapen on a certain part of the body, lines that are too close together and just blur together over time, color choices that don't work well on the skin, etc. There are compromises that *have* to be made with tattoos to make them work on the body.
I don’t understand why asking for an estimate for their hourly rate is. I can love your work and agree that it’s worth however much but if I can’t afford I can’t afford and I don’t want to waste either of our time.
Asking for a price of a tattoo before telling them what you want is like walking up to a car dealer and asking for a price of a car before telling them what kind you are looking for.
said this last time about when they all burst into tears about people asking prices, so I’ll gloss over how stupid that is again. And I say this as a tattoo artist. People NEED to know how much they’re tattoo is going to be, it’s not an insult. The fact they’re there is a good thing. People NEED to know how much money to bring as most places are cash in hand, they also NEED to know if they can afford it. I’d be far, far more annoyed if at the end of the tattoo they didn’t have enough money. Walking into a shop and asking how much a coat is doesn’t mean you think the coats shit, it means you want to buy it but you want to make sure you can afford it. On to the point of them crying because people are “picky.” Yes ofc it’s more fun as an artist to be given free reign but people are PAYING you (or at least they will if they’re allowed to actually ask how much money you want) to put a permanent mark on their skin. They have absolutely every right to be picky if they so choose. If its something that simply will not work as a tat then that’s fine, that’s your job to explain but in terms of people picking out details? Absolute snowflakes these artist. Get offended off absolutely everything. They’re also incredibly unintelligent as they can’t even use the brain power required to figure out people want to know how much something is and they’re all incredibly snobby because they can draw. I wouldn’t go to any of these regardless of how good their work might be. Absolute morons. I would say if there’s people who are thinking of getting a tattoo , especially if it’s your first. I would say ignore these idiots. Absolutely no rational thinking human being would think like this so please don’t let these brain dead knuckle dragging idiots put you off.
That’s not what they’re getting at though, they’re clearly offended because they think that the customer think their work is only worth a certain amount. That’s why they say things like “if you like our work it doesn’t matter” ect and things of that nature. Indicating to me they’re clearly taking it personally. Beside I get loads of people come in and go how much do you charge and I say specific peace’s already drawn up the price and custom work £60 an hour. Then when they’ve told me what they want I’ll estimate and say it will probably take about 3 hours so I’ll add that up (well the apprentice will) when booking in and take a £20-£30 deposit depending on the tattoo size. Even if they were on abou that (which the from what they’re saying they’re not nit imo) it’s still absolutely no annoyance whatsoever. Even if for example you had a brain injury or something and couldn’t think or speak the words “we charge by the hour, tell me what you want and I can price it up” it’s still not a problem at all in anyway shape or form.
And to use the analogy of a car that is exactly what you do. Well most people hopefully will have the common sense to look online first but say you want the new E-Class you still go into Mercedes and say I want to buy the E-Class and then they do their jobs that people pay them and say what extras, do want Mercedes services deal, what colour, what interior, do you want the AMG line, do you want it finance, do you want it lease, are you a drug dealer that has £45,000 in your pocket now? Then they’ll go the the final price with you, just like working in a tattoo studio.
There's a tattoo studio i've seen where they actually have a gallery of tattoos in different price ranges so you can get an idea of what can you get for your money. That would be super useful. I also learned to phrase the how much will it cost question as "how much money should i bring to be sure to cover the tattoo cost?" so the artist instantly understands i really just want to know how much cash should i have on me. Same with time, i also state WHY i want to know so they don't think it's the usual "oh i want it done quick" but, for example my boyfriend will pick me up so what should he expect or we want to go see someone after the tattoo and when should they expect us, this way my artist actually understand she can say 6 hours and i will be fine with it, i just want to know how to plan my day, i'm not in a hurry.
You're going to an artist for a piece of art created specifically for you, but in the style of the artist that you chose. You shouldn't be selecting an artist because you think they're the best, you should be selecting them because you think they do the style that you specifically want the best. If you don't want a piece of art, go buy a tshirt or a poster or something.
@@TheSwagSociety A poster or t-shirt are pieces of art still, someone has to draw and design the design just like a tattoo artist... Idk why people think tattoo artists are holier than thou. Just because someone's not a tattoo artist doesn't mean they're not artistic, period. It's a two way street, just be a cool customer and be a cool TA, the tattoo IS going on their body forever, but do your research before coming in and wasting everyone's time.
The point is that you should be selecting the artist you want your work from based on the kind of work they do. Treat them like an artist, not a machine that just prints out your imagination. Not everyone can do everything you ask, and not everything you ask for can even be done. And remember, they have no obligation to put ANYTHING on your body.
They said if the first thing you ask is how much, if you ask for a price before even presenting your idea, you know a small heart on your wrist is a bit easier to do than a full back piece
When I'm asking about money, my trick is to say "What's your pricing like?" rather than "How much?" Gives me a ballpark figure without needing them to be exact.
That's actually hella smart. I usually discuss the piece I want first and go over the logistics then ask the price after we have an idea what were doing. But these videos give me anxiety to go into shops
YUP. Or “Can I get a quote for this?” once they’ve had time to spec. Or “how many shop hours are you thinking for this?” -as everyone charges by the hour. I understand the artists not wanting to feel devaluated. I’ve gotten 15+ tattoos and never had a problem. Just be a nice human.
@Carissa Mcdonald A professional artist will usually give you an estimate once they know what you want, or will be straightforward when you book the appointment for a consult that your tattoo session will cost X regardless of time (i.e. booking the whole day)
I think asking how much a design that you have in mind might cost is acceptable. When I ask a price it's not like I'm asking for a deal, I just want to know when I'll be able to afford it. It's like getting a quote on something. Sure, you might not ve able to get it right away, but at least you won't waste the artists time until you can afford the tattoo.
Yeah imagine being a tattoo artist and designing a tattoo with the person and everything is going great. Then they ask the price and realize they cant afford it so they go find another tattooer. How angry would you be at that moment rather than if they had started the conversation with a question of the price?
@@vesicapiscis9717 the design of the tattoo shouldn't matter. when you do construction(which is far harder than tattoo work) you don't charge based on the design unless you are doing something like stamped concrete or using special materials. the only thing that matters is how difficult it will be to do and how long it will take.
houseofaction they’re talking about those who try and cut a deal and those who ask about price before even describing what they want. A heart isn’t going to be the same amount as a sleeve. Just like construction a cottage won’t be the same as a skyscraper
It shouldn't be an issue unless the price is literally the first thing you ask when you come in w/o even discussing the design. I think that's the artists' problem
Because it depends on what youre asking om, what it is, how big how small, how detailed, how long it takes to do like a lot plays into it you cant hit a tattoo artist and expect an answer without diacussing the specifics of a tattoo
@Dawn Gunderman How are you going to know the range if you don't say what you want done to your hair? You don't even have to divulge all the details. Even asking "How much for cutting hair" is much more helpful for both you and the salon instead of a simple "How much"
I've honestly never understood pricing when it comes to tattoos. It shouldn't be hard for a tattoo artist to say "I take x amount of money per hour - this tattoo I estimate will take approximately x amount of hours, so you're gonna have to pay at least x and maximum x". In no other profession can you say "oh, this was extra difficult, so the payment is gonna be higher". You're gonna have though tasks at work and you're gonna have easy tasks at work. Your salary won't change based on the difficulty level of your tasks. I have several tattoos, and some artists I've gone to have provided hourly rates and others have refused to even give me an estimate of how much it's gonna cost until it's done. And like most people who get tattoos do, I save up for a long time to get them. The fact that so many artists in this video claim that it's annoying when clients ask for the price after having spent long hours working to save up to go to a good artist is just arrogant and rude imo.
Pretty sure most of them don’t get payed by the hour. It’s about how big the tattoo is, what kind of design, color or black&grey and where on the body you want it. Before discussion all of that, you shouldn’t be asking for a price.
Some styles are more difficult than others and you're paying for their experience and talent. You wouldn't go to an artist and expect them to pay only an hourly fee. It's not just about time, some styles can be tedious to do and they wouldn't dp them at all if they didn't get paid more.
Exactly! I'm a wedding videographer. I cant imagine telling my customers, your price depends on how long it takes me to edit. I'll have the total afterwards.
** overly picky. Picky is okay but when you start being overly picky you mine as well leave and do it yourself because either way its not going to turn out as well.
@@keegking1582 When I got my tattoo done, I gave the bloke an idea and was like yeah sure whatever you think is right. But, if I had something specific I wanted, I would want that specific thing. Doesn't matter if they think this or that looks better. It's my body, why can you just out what I want on it.
@@ShinigamiShionZ it's because tatooers are artists and if you go to them you should have already looked at their work and liked it... Some artists can do certain tattoos and if they put it in their own style it will, 100% look better. I get that it's going to be on your body forever but you have to work with the artist on some things.
So you expect to us to get a tattoo you made and it has something i don't liek on my body for the rest of my life? Without even knowing the price? Riiight
That pop punk kid I think they mean that the first question is asked is the price. You have to tell them the design, size, and how intricate it would be. It’s like going to a restaurant and you just Ask how much. It depends on what you want to eat and if you want extra stuff. It’s not a flat rate for everything. Obviously the customer should be quoted for a price before they start to tattoo.
"When they ask how much" what? It's way better for them to ask that early on because then if they can't afford it they're not wasting your time... would you rather them sit down and plan it out with you and then be like "oh I can't afford that"
"I think being overly picky about your design" um...it's on your body forever they every right to want it perfected..? ( I'm a tattooist btw Additional Edit: add my Snapchat: Luna-valentine )
nice to get a tattooer who watches our comments. I think tattooers deserve a good price as its on your body forever but should be a way to ask the price. Including tip. Since you are here Luna....what should be the percentage for tip? Thanks
Yeah I feel like both asking for a price, as well as having a clear vision are both the customers right. I do art commissions, not tattoo work but still art, and people asking for quotes to get an idea of what they can afford as well as having a specific idea of what they want are completely understandable. Especially for something that's going to end up on your body permanently as a tattoo, some people will be comfortable with artistic liberty in the moment and some people want what theyve envisioned. Just because they have a vision doesnt mean they have the technical skill to do it themselves, so "if you're going to be picky why are you having someone else do it" doesnt always work as an argument Part of that comes down to picking an artist you believe can realistically being your vision to life, but still....the customer is allowed to have that vision lmao (Edit: that's not to say act like you know how tattooing works better than the tattooist, micromanaging is understandably annoying. But having a specific idea for the design itself is fine imo)
That one sounded weird to me too. By all means be as picky as you want... I'd rather not do a cover later or have you think I did a bad job because it's not exactly how you envisioned it.... (I'm just finishing my certification course now so I haven't been doing this long enough to develop a big ego yet)
dave I’m not an artist but I tip depending on the person, the piece and the time it took. I mean I got a Friday the 13th tattoo for 20 bucks and it took about 30 minutes but she was super nice, made conversation, and took her time on the tattoo so I gave a 25 dollar tip.
julie sansone I wait til my client gets there to set up so you can see the sanitary and sterile process. That way theirs no confusion and you don’t have any reason to think I’m a dirty scumbag.
“They want to steer the tattoo into a very specific, narrow direction” Uh yea it’s a permanent tattoo that would be going on my body....imma be specific about that
I'm glad I found a professional he doesnt mind tattooing anything as long as I have permission to use the art. I usually commission an artist to draw my tattoo and just go in with the design already done
My bro actually went to those dudes shop. They really chill people and specialize in realism. I don’t know about the other tattoo artist but I’m taking their word. These the type of people if you bring them a piece of work 9/10 they’ll do it unless they truly thing the idea is bad
Anna G those guys actually specialize in designing tattoos so most people just come with them for designing and tattoos. If you just bring them a piece of paper unless it’s something they don’t approve of, they’ll do it. They specialize in design tho.
Totally with Ryan Ashley with healing. Every tattoo I have I have been given different after care and I always follow what that artist told me and never had an issue. They know how their work heals best so I go with it! And it works
For real! My artist had to adjust my stencil three times because it didn't look right to me. I apologised for being a pain and he was like 'Hey, it's gonna be there for the rest of your life, you're the one who has to live with it, it has to look good to *you*'. Which, y'know, makes sense.
Dilynne H. Then deal with a shitty fucked up tattoo because it had to be “Your way”, your the person these guys are talking about, there’s a difference between being overly picky and specific.
Considering them as artists, he has a point: if he specialises on a particular thing, he's not the right one for your idea They're not copying machines You can always find another one that can suit your style
@@cc1093 Yeah but what if an artist you like does fantastic life like animals. You want a fantastic, life like elephant, but they don't have any elephants in their portfolio. Can they do it? Maybe. But just because you're good at drawing one animal, doesn't make you instantly great at doing all animals.
Asking abvout the price wasn't the issue. It's the fact that they don't tell you what the tattoo is first as if we all charge the same thing for every tattoo
Really ? I doubt that ... They sound pretty valid too me . I don't want any tats and I'm not an artist .. just a sensible person .. but you probably balance shit on your head while tat huh .. what an inspiration you beautiful little flower
These guys seem so pretentious. They are the problem with half of these things. "Ah look at me I'm a big hot shot tattoo artist, dont ask me questions."
I would consider these guys artists. With art you can’t be constantly try and change what the artist is doing. Yes you are paying and it’s on your body but once you pay and you’re on that table you’re in the artists hands. You pay for the artist. You don’t pay to bitch at the artist.
I asked "what makes a bad client" in a tattoo group on fb and a lot of people surprisingly said "showing up EARLY". Not 5-10 minutes early but like 30-40 mins early and explained that they schedule their day based on the work they're doing and now might not get a break, get a lunch, just chill for a bit between appointments, finish up other things they need to work on, whatever because they don't want to just leave you sitting there for an hour. So if you're appointment is at 10. Be there at 10. Same for Hairdressers and the like i'd assume.
Tattoo artists are the most annoying part of getting a tattoo. I can understand their view of not being haggled with - that’s disrespectful and you shouldn’t feel disrespected as an artist. An approximate price for a general idea and being picky for something permanently on your body is hardly an issue.
"You want something exactly the way you see it in your head and you want to adjust to your liking because its going to be on your body forever??? God youre such an annoying micromanager."
I watched it twice. This quote is not in the video. It sounds like this when they are talking about mikromanaging but this is not a quote from the video.
Not every tattoo concept works out as a tattoo. When an artist is attempting to construct a design based on the client's ideas, they typically take into consideration longevity. This is where butting heads comes into play. Clients will want a specific design that just simply cannot be translated the same way into skin, and will end up with a tattoo that will look like a hot mess in a couple years' time. But many clients don't want to hear it because they saw it on Pinterest and think that the Pin has more authority over tattoos than their own artist. This is why it can be annoying when someone tries to micromanage, especially in a direction where the end result will be a tattoo that simply won't age well.
naw. It's the same thing for street shops too. we hate all of the same things, but street shops are more for profit rather than artistic reputation. so they'll put up with more BS
I think he meant when ppl dm asking how much a piece is, depends what you want and your size.. Mine sleeve was £1500, my mates was £3000 as he had a lot more detail and colour, so no, it cant be answered in a dm..
@@leannelnind207 Yes I see but then it is the perfect time to explain that to the customer. Just so the customer knows how much money it might cost then they can save up to it. Take a second job or something 😆😆
@@Figen.E Fortunately over here in the UK most tattoo shops (all the 6 I've used at least) have an hourly rate, the tattooist would then give an idea on consultation about how long roughly, I'd then add an extra 2 hours just in case..
@@leannelnind207 Well that’s good then you at least know how much it might be. But to get annoyed as an tattoo artist for a question that is easy to explain 🤷♀️
Chris kills me.
What annoys you as a tattoo artist?
"When the bar closes"
A true kiwi
Dude is hilarious
Super random, i love it KKKK
He should have his own show! He is hilarious
He's like an alternate taika watiti
"when the bar closes early you know"
Please Chris, never change, ever
Ahaha he took it so literally 😂
What’s he’s ig ??
He is hands down my favourite. Love Chris
That's Kiwi realness right there. I love him 😂😘💖
That’s typical New Zealander banger for ya 😂😂😂
“Getting a tattoo doesn’t end the minute you leave the door” honestly so many people should hear this cause it’s the best advice
It's really sad that needs to be said .. shows you the level of stupidity of today's immediate gratification culture
Mixed feelings on this one, aftercare is super important but I have had artists attempting to shill products under the guise of giving aftercare instructions.
It’s not hard. Don’t go in open water/hot tubs, don’t go in the sunlight exposed, and use non scented lotion.
I still have a hard time finding consensus though. Body care is a fairly exact science. Why do tattoo artists have different methods/advice? The inconsistency in after care advice has actually kept me from getting desired tattoos.
@@Hamrik_Oswald I just follow what each person says exactly because they way each person tattoos varies and because of that your healing process can vary as well
"overly picky" as if im not handing you hundreds of dollars to put something permanent on my body
Exactly like wtf. Why can’t you just do your fucking job
Exactly! Like asking how much... am I not allowed to know how much I'll spend on something before I pay for it?
“Overly” being the key word here. There comes a point where being picky becomes “too picky”. Their style might not match yours exactly, assuming you are also an artist with your own style...and what you have in your head isn’t necessarily what everyone else has in theirs. Just another way of looking at it.
As a tattoo artist, this irked me too. A client is allowed to be as picky as they want, this is a mark that is going to be on their body forever. Nitpick my art to your heart’s content, it’s more important to me that you love your tattoo than for you to immediately love my art.
@@taylorkane2828 it's because these are world famous tattoo artists that book super far in advance and have a certain style/niche that they do not go outside of. they turn down a lot of designs and clients. obviously a tattoo artist in whatever town you're in isn't going to have the same attitude as a millionaire artist that tattooed LeBron James bro
Things that annoy tattoo artists: clients
Yes. Lol!!! Clients weren't so dumb 15-20+ years ago.
Anyone working in customer service would agree 😂
Except for the part when the clients pay them
Haha! For real though.
Clients posa pro.
Q: What annoys you most?
A: When people come in and ask for tattoos.
This is funny! Fuckl yeah!
walk ins instead of appointments
A lot of these artists are by appointment only, so people coming in and wanting something ugly from pinterest right this second probably gets annoying day after day
Yeah, you certainly weren't listening. Everything they said was reasonable, but you clearly lack the ability to try and understand where their coming from.
LMAO, basically everything!
I asked for a really specific piece once. I was pretty direct about what i wanted. And then on the day of the tattoo he shows me the design and its absolutely nothing like what i described. And then he seemed kinda pissed when i declined. Respect what your customer asks for. Its their body. The art they choose is supposed to be about THEIR self expression. Not yours.
EXACTLY
I think they were complaining about the overly picky people. I can imagine that those people can be anoyying. But also, the tattoo artist may be the one doing the tattoo, but at the end of the day, it is MY tattoo, on MY body, so I have the right to be a bit picky (a bit picky, not overly picky)
That same EXACT thing happened to me! Like, I had my boyfriend take a photo of my back, then I spent days photocopying and drawing and refining the design to give a strong idea of how I wanted it. I wanted this sort of soft, floral motif and that's what I set out, and I took it into the shop and the guy was like 'ok let me come up with some stuff and your first session will be in a few days'.
Sure, I thought, it'll be great to get some input about placement or flow or whatever, I was open to collaboration to an extent... so I come back for my session and he's done these horrible, sharp tribal flowers that were nothing like the ones I'd brought in. He'd just changed it to look more 'badass' or whatever, more to his liking. When I said 'no I wanted the flowers like the ones I showed you' he got all offended and said 'usually the artist has some input' and so on.
It was only when his boss was like 'I think she knows what flower shapes she wants' that he got the message. I was about to pay the guy hundreds of pounds and I'd be stuck with whatever he did for the rest of my life, I couldn't imagine trying to strongarm a client like that.
It's so weird that this profession seems to be rife with this particular kind of entitlement, is anybody else like that? Hairdressers? Manicurists? Makeup artists?
@@peggy7744 Tattoo artists are people too. Some are dicks, some are great. No artist I've been too has tried to change something I said I wanted that exact way - it sounds like you were unlucky with your artist. Don't ever feel pressured to get the tattoo if you don't like the design on the stencil. If they won't work with you, I guarantee there are 10 more artists who will
Kind of like when actors try to alter the script and the director says no you are paid to say the line that’s written on the frickin page. It’s my body and I will be the judge of what goes on it thanks all the same
The “how much” thing being annoying is kinda weird. Sometimes people are just looking for what they can afford and I don’t like the idea wasting an artist’s time by making an appointment and seeing them, only to find out that I cannot afford them. It would make me feel like shit. Maybe it’s because I’m from another culture but artists are almost always able to give me a quote, or at least a range where I live.
They obviously meant asking the price before even discussing the tattoo.
Newsflash the size and artstyle can alter the price🤦🏽♀️.
Also if you’re on a tight budget don’t go to a top artist like these ones, because you just KNOW that they’re gonna be expensive.
Good tattoos cost more but atleast you have something good on your body.
Your correct!
In my experience, opening with what I want and asking if they can do it within a budget that I set works great
@@Tracy-xe9zu honestly that's how 99% of artists operate these are all Hollywood pricks high off their own farts.
Some of these complaints are valid and reasonable. Some of them are completely silly and its pretty clear some of these artists are a bit entitled.
Exactly
@ what a silly blanket statement
I am willing to blame the editing and set up of the questions for some of those, ut some are truly silly. Especially since some are to be kind of expected in this line of work.
It doesn't mean it didn't annoy them.
@ Not all tattoo artists are entitled. I go to this shop where this couple works and they are honestly very lovely and humble. Not all tattoo artists are huge and famous with a matching ego it all depends on where you go.
"Overly picky" is normal if its gonna be on your body for the rest of your life
David Goodwin I couldn’t agree more they are artists but it’s my body
Picky is normal. Overly picky is not. I experience it as a visual artist. If you're telling me exactly how to do everything, why are you having me do it? When that happens, it usually looks like trash because a non-artistic person is art directing and they have absolutely no clue what they're doing.
You can't be picky. You are suppose to trust them. You went and chose this artist because you saw the work they did. All you have to do as a customer is give an idea and pay. That's all, nothing more.
Yeah it's gonna be on MY body and i've Seen many "tattoo artistes" with 0 Tastes like bro your shit IS garbage
@@deb1920 Very simple, cause I don't know how to tattoo. Saying any customer does not know what he/she wants is also a bit crude. Just because people don't tattoo, it doesn't make them non-artistic..
Asking how much it is?
Yea my bad for making sure i can pay you afterwards.
Yeah right
The price gets brought up before they lay the stencil. If you are that tight on money chances are you shouldn't be in the chair in the first place.
You should give the artist your idea and budget. If you're tight on money, then you should be spending that money on things you actually need.
If you go into a tattoo place saying "I want a tattoo of 'insert whatever', how much?" its perfectly understandable they get annoyed. What size, what color, what placement. All that has a price factor to it.
Online Anonymous yeah but i’d kinda need to know if i need to bring 400 or 600 dollars. that’s a big difference
Not always actually. I agree you should have the money. I always bring an extra two hundred or so for cushion, tip and possibility of free time to add extra. But to act like its a straight forward service, price arrangement yeah its not. I think maybe what people are saying that your snooty comment doesn't address is that its not so straight forward. There is some artsy fartsy bend to it.
@@dreamonline1996
Ironic hearing an artist say they hate when their clients are late, because I've literally never had an artist show up on time.
Same 🙋🏻♀️ or have me sit and wait for an hour after me appointment 🤣 seriously that’s when the tip money goes down 🤷🏻♀️
lol for sure, I got in the shop at 11 am and started getting tatted at 3 pm. My tattoo artist was the sweetest bean in the world though, and I did ask for a last minute adjustment, so I don't mind
@@maryon-vj1rm yeah I've had that exact same situation happen too. I'm not worried about the payment because an artist would never (at least my artists) charge me for waiting time. But my issue is I'm usually getting tattooed 5-7 hours and it's not fun to just wait for fucking hours before getting tattooed.
@@sammybowker7823 yup that's what we get for loving big tattoos, we're fckin DRAINED by the end of the day, especially when we have to wait longer like this
Me getting a forearm sleeve that's scheduled for the 2 days before my flight out of the country and my tattoo artist is 1 hr late both days 😂
"Being overly picky about your design"
Heaven forbid I should get exactly what I want on my body forever.
lol yeah that one made me doubletake. like its not going on you, its going on me. forever. I have the right to be a little picky.
I had a tattoo artist tell me he loves his job because the customer is never right.
Especially because I've seen some tattoos spelt wrong or other things that are non salvageable.
@@rosalynhilliard7627 spelt 🤔😂 the irony
Carlos Flores you really thought you did something 🥴🤡
“When people come to get their feet tattooed and their toes aren’t done”
*proceeds to blink as if she’s never blinked in her life*
On g I thought she was having a seizure
She is a total snot! Probably insecure. Not a great artist by any measure.
I'm p sure she meant like. Non clipped toe nails or clean feet. I agree with her behavior though p snobby.
But would you wanna touch someone's feet and their filthy stinky or unclipped nails?. Bruh that is gross imo
She’s an idiot
Damn, y'all are just as mean as you're saying she is. I wouldn't want to deal with dirty and stinky feet either.
Y'all need to ask tattoo clients what annoys them too...
100%
Totally .. cuz that's inequality rite ? Your feelings were totally hurt huh Chris ... Poor boy ☹️
Arrogant Artisits who think they shit gold but half of there work sucks
1) entitled hipster artist with a secret stick jammed up their ass.
2) 100/hr when the job u did dosent even justify 10$/hr
3) having to ask permission and ur opinion on something, to pay u to do something.
Exactly!
These tattoo artists: "Being overly picky"
My tattoo artist:
Stopped and asked/checked with me many times if my tattoo looked like I wanted it. Even asked me to go and look in the mirror to make sure her work was what I wanted. And she welcomed any "pickyness" I had.
Can you share her Instagram?
@@vivianelaisdefarias @tattoosbyadriana
@@brentarellano46 thaaank yooou!
that is what an good tattoo artist look like, like you can be the best in the fucking world but if you are like these people i aint going to you
100% true. My artist was probably picker than I was. I can appreciate him being a perfectionist so that I don’t have to. It really takes the pressure off
I get that changing designs last minute may be annoying but I feel like they should also understand ‘cause it’s something that stays on your body forever. literally.
It’s annoying to them after the stencil is drawn and everything, and then you want to change a big portion after the stencil is laid, that’s annoying
Depends on the artist and the change you want. While my stencil dried I asked if it would be ok to add color to what had been planned as a black & grey piece. He was fine with it and even thought it was a really good change when we were done.
Its gonna be on your body for life, you should know exactly what you want before you see the artis. You should 100% love somthing before your appointment.
Well you can get rid of tattoos
When I first started getting tattooed the only way to get rid of them was to drop your bike at 60 or walk into a belt sander. I went into this believing these things are forever and I'm going with that. I've even seen artists getting tattoos removed. The permanence has faded.
Tattoo Artists often seem to feel that the process is about them.
We admire your skill and knowledge but this is OUR vision and it needs to be a team effort.
I cant imagine not being “picky” about something being added to my body for the rest of my life.
perfectly said
« I don’t think about you I think about the tattoo » um what ? They forget that they’re tattooing actual people with specific wants
Datman exactly tho
Mack Doza you’re, you, fucking. You’re welcome
@Bunker Sieben If they don't think a tattoo is good for their reputation then they can turn the client down. But it is the client's right to be picky because it's their vision that they will have on their body forever.
"Come alone"
Lmao I get the reasoning but that sounded shady asf
i also think it's a bit of a gaslighting eg if you didn't come with sb and approve the piece and later you didn't like sth about it, they'll just say that you agreed to it anyway. at the same time, sb nitpicking your art at every move can be hella annoying
Also people might want company for other reasons. I bring somebody to talk to me during the process and distract me from the pain.
I think it depends on the person you take with you and why if it's to take time and pain out a little or it's your first tattoo and you can sit still it's not a problem
"Come alone"
👁👄👁
The guy was actually suspected to be a murderer on the news lately
Repeat with me: you shouldn’t be annoyed by your client asking a reasonable question
#celenoidtattooartist2024
"Too picky" "Asking the price beforehand" "They want the tattoo in a too specific of a direction"
I think these are legitimate things to being up with your artist. I mean its permanent. I'm not going to go get any service done without asking the price beforehand.
well the price thing works for small tatts cuz they can gage the time required, but something like a sleeve, the time it takes can vary and therefore the price as well. Speaking from experience, I’m getting a sleeve done and the guy was straight honest, he said it to me straight, could be between 4-7 sessions so the price can be 2k like it could be 3k.
All of their tattoos look specific as fuck
I think it’s reasonable to at least have an estimate. Of course you can’t give an exact price for a bigger or detailed piece, but I should know if I’m looking at 100 - 150 or 2k.
@@RhodaPhone98 I think its probably that they get a lot of people who come in and say "how much for a tattoo" without any specifics given. Sorry but you can't give an estimate on a tattoo that you don't have any specifics about.
I'm going this afternoon to get a tattoo cover , hearing these artists is scaring me!
The most annoying thing about getting a tattoo is obnoxious tattoo artists - by far.
Well said, everyone on here is disgustingly obnoxious
@@jamesjameson4566 Being a bit hyperbolic no?
@@shamaniccolonic777 nasty people
@@jamesjameson4566 nah some were fair with their responses
Honestly it's a new school thing I got tattooed mostly in the 90s early 00s I got loads and none of them were like these insufferable pricks
Client: Any idea how much I'd be looking at for the full piece?
Artist: Ugh, so annoying.
Client: Uh...ok...
I think what they were trying to say is that it annoys them that, before saying what they want in a tattoo, people ask how much it’ll cost, as if it’s the same regardless of the size and design
It maybe more on the concept of they want the exact price for a sleeve, they dont know what the exact price is, they dont know exactly how long its gonna take. So if the artist says its gonna be say 1,000 bucks, but it took longer and suppose to cost more. Now they are losing money, cuz the artist said it will be 1,000. That would annoy me if i was an tattoo artist
@@dominicbullene943 it's a question i always ask when i go to get inked. some tattoo places in my area charge per piece, others charge by the hour regardless of what you're getting tattooed. so it just makes sense to ask that for me. i never knew that wasn't normal in every area to have some charge per piece and others by the hour.
I'm guessing they mean when that's the first question people ask about the tattoo. They come in and go "Hey I want a tattoo, how much?" well, how much depends on a multitude of factors. Now imagine getting asked that question a dozen times a day for 5+ years. You'd get annoyed after all that also.
@@imsorryehh4905 Their job would then be to ask the questions needed to determine the price. When you go to a shop to fix your car how much, they can't tell you until they look at the car but they can give ballparks based on what it COULD be.
I remember asking this question to my artist during my first tattoo. His answers?
- People being distracting
- Customers not taking the process/aftercare seriously,
- And while he would agree to tattoo almost anything, he personally preferred tattoos with meanings as opposed to just copying someone else.
All were annoyances, but they were vague and not personally judgmental toward the client (unless if the client wanted something really stupid/dangerous, like hate symbols).
He certainly said nothing along the lines of "Get your toes painted before I tattoo your feet" or "Don't be so picky"
Maybe it's the fame, but their "complaints" just scream "I'm high maintenance. Please don't come to me to get work done."
They're all Hollywood weirdos every last one of them basically insulted by asking if they're affordable I'd rather go get a £30 tattoo by someone I could sit in a room with than pay $2000 to someone who specifically rips off clients this is the generation that started that by the hour bullshit Vs a tattoo is just worth X amount.
I get annoyed when the artist has to stop every 30 minutes to go have a smoke.
bigJ thejoker Lmao if that’s my artist I’d most likely smoke with him
Omg i got someone like that for a 2 hours tattoo that was so annoying! One smoke im ok but 4 times ????? Get a patch xd
bigJ thejoker my artist worked on my tattoo for an hour then went to target for an hour then came back and finished... took 3 hours for a 4 hour tattoo
4 hours for a 3 hour tattoo*
I didn’t even know tattoo artists ever left or stopped in the middle for any reason other than things to do with the art itself?
How much for a sleeve:
Tattoo artist- $4000
Jail artist- 10 hunny buns and 5 soups
You son of a bitch I’m in
I've seen some pretty dope prison tats actually
@@shaskins15 They're all dope, until you end up in the mri...
You get what you pay for.
@@togapika No there are some WORLD class artist in prison!! The best work I’ve EVER seen was in prison. They have nothing but time to prefect their techniques. I’d rather get mine done in prison then on the street honestly. You can get your entire back done by a master for $20-$40!!!! And some prisons have color ink just like the street.
"make sure you come alone" Sounds like a craigslist ad posted by a serial killer....
Do you not have tattoos? You should get it done alone. I’ve gotten a few tattoos and you have to be completely still and you can’t just be talking the whole time loudly to your friend and have them trying to look and distracting the artist
@@yagirl177 Yes, I've got a lot more than a few. A good artist can work while talking, mine talks all the way through... also if you watch these artists work they talk through it too.... at a camera! A person isn't a distraction or no other clients would be allowed in the building. It's simply a case of some of these "elite" artists think they are gods.
@@yagirl177 I have two tattoos, the first one I got when I was 17 so someone had to be there to sign the permission form - my sister came with me. It was a small tattoo that took around 30 min and she helped me decide on a few details (since I agreed on a design when I made my appointment and the day of the appointment my tattoo artist told me that it wouldn't be possible, but also placement, etc.) and she was just there to support me. We weren't talking loudly or anything, most of the time she was just on her phone. I understand not wanting someone to take 3 other people to a tattoo apointment but I don't think it is reasonable to demand that your client comes alone. Tattoos hurt and are scary and some people just need a little bit of extra support.
People can be distracting and studios can have limited space 🤷♀️
@@yagirl177 I had all my tattoos done with friends and my artist actually recommends having someone to sit with.
i love the argument of “its not for yourself it’s upside down” like ah yeah it’s much more important for ppl to see my tiny ass tattoo of “i love you” in my dead mom’s handwriting the right way up than it is for me to see it mhm
I mean most people that get tattoos do it to show them off to others but yours sounds personal and if you simply tell them why you want it to face you then I doubt they'll complain....
Peep the ratio
this is so on point. Even if it's not too personal or meaningful - I want a couple lyrics of poetry or my favourite song tattooed on me, for example. Because I WANT TO BE ABLE TO READ IT every time I wake up. Why is it perceived as a bad thing?
@@helgabarton7384 i think its because it can be fucked up really easy because youknow its upside down
yea i have a semicolon and my sisters initials under it, i won’t go into detail ab the meaning but i told my artist i want it facing me so i can see it/read it and have it for a reminder to keep going even when it gets tough and i’m not around her. my artist didn’t even question why i wanted it facing me, she just said “thank god for the stencil cause it might be shit if it was freehand upside down.”
Why are tattoo artists so annoyed when a customer asks how much it will cost?! Wouldn't they want to know if the customer can afford it so the artist doesn't waste their time? Ffs this is always brought up and I'll never understand why it pisses them off so much.
They said that it is annoying when it's the first question asked. If you go to tattoo artist solely because of the price it gives the feeling of underappreciation of their art. That's it. The money conversation is normal and important but shouldn't be the first thing that you ask. APPRECIATE. THE. ART.
deadass, at the very least artists should be able to provide their minimum rate and the per hour charge after that.it shouldn't be a guessing game
@@JTIIIK maybe I do appreciate the art but I want to know if I can afford that art, I mean rough estimate for the size and color of the tattoo shouldn't be a problem
@@JTIIIK Oh ok, so explain the other videos where artists complain that the customer asks for a tattoo, then asks for the price and they state "if you want a tattoo it shouldn't matter about the cost"? Do artists want to waste their time in designing the work, going to the appointment, doing the tattoo, then afterwards tell the customer the price only for the customer to say "oh I can't afford that"? I got a tattoo from an artist 2 years ago and never going to him again because how rude he was when it came to me asking how much it was, gave him a 20% tip, still got pissy when I asked how much it was. The art was great, would recommend for that reason, but not the pissy attitude. Like I said, will never understand.
Jasiek Kiszowara so we should appreciate their art before we permanently mark our body with it and we can’t afford it? Lmao
One of my first questions will always be about price bc I'm not going to waste your time if i cant afford it
You should give them your idea and budget. They probably get multiple people coming in a day and asking "how much for a tattoo" without giving any details about the tattoo they want.
@@imsorryehh4905 It's their job to ASK and then answer based on those answers. It's the same at a salon! How much to go blonde? Well, depends how many bleach passes and toners etc you need...but you can give a ballpark.
@@xsugarplum3442 no it isn't. You give them a piece you want on your body. They give you how they want to give it to you. You can either deal with it or be a picky bitch to someone else. And if you can't afford an extra $50-$100 on a tattoo you shouldn't be paying for a tattoo. You should be paying bills.
torren rachu if I have budgeted $600 for a tattoo then my max spending on the tattoo will be $600. If I briefly describe what I’m wanting and ask how much something like that tends to cost, and their answer is $650-700 then I need to know that I can’t afford that tattoo from them at that time. (Notice how with a budget $50-100 can make you unable to afford it)
@@BigStreams_ you're explaining a process in which there's communication. The artists are saying that the price is literally the first thing asked about without (or even with) a brief description without detail and important bits are stupid questions. Not to mention, people usually WAY underbudget for a tattoo. You seem like you have the respect enough to not be a picky bitch, but ignorant people who care more about money than the meaning or think artists TRY to make your cost as high as possible. You be respectful and they'll be respectful. Your budget is important to them, but your piece is much much more important and you asking price right out the gate is a red flag..
Yeah I understand that they are artists but it's not like I'm just a canvas... Canvas doesn't care what's on it... but I do. And the canvas doesn't pay a lot of money to be painted on... I do. Canvas doesn't have it's own art tase... I do. They should understand all that...
Well you should pick a tattoo artist that has the style you like, they arent going to change there art style for you. Your not the center of the world if you dont like the style find another person who has a style to your liking. That should be obvious.
puppers first yes but a tattoo artist cant just make a change to a person’s tattoo because its their art style after agreeing to do it. (Making a change without the consent to)
@@FrogReign yeah but for example you can like a lot of Van Gogh's paintings but you probably don't like all of them... Same applies to the tattoo artist. Not everything that they tattoo is good.
@@JDefoe1882 no, what you're saying is "not everything they tattoo appeals to you"
And clients should understand that if they choose an artist, they should have mutual respect for their boundaries
As a health professional I truly appreciate Ryan's point. The healing process is different for all of us, follow the instructions given and be responsible.
It’s going to be on your body forever
Who wouldn’t be picky?!?
I think when they're saying "picky" its more micromanaging everything the artist is doing. "Oh you should be doing this here and use this color here and end the line here and make sure this does blah blah blah" You aren't a tattoo artist, you don't know how its all going to interact with your skin, movement etc.
@@imsorryehh4905 are u a tattoo artist
@@vibearitv745 you don't have to be an artist to have an idea of what goes through their head during a consultation/session
@@thegirlwiththatface I was asking a simple questions to someone else and i was asking just to ask u do not have to ask that question and have those intentions :)
I think they don’t understand the mentality of someone who isn’t a tattoo collector. They have so many tattoos that it doesn’t even matter if they let an artist do their own thing with one of them.
Really?? It’s annoying becase we are being “too picky” like bro I’m giving you hundreds if not thouasands of dollars for a piece of art on my body that is FOREVER yeah I’m gonna be picky about it and make sure it’s perfect for me ffs.
Bailey fahey spot on
But you've already looked through portfolios at this point? You already found someone you like and *trust*. By being *picky* you're conveying that you know better than them about tattoos and *their* images. Are you picky at the doctor's office? Does a dentist have to let you take the wheel on occasion? How about your mechanic? Do you stand behind him and say "hey, don't scratch that!". Or do you just go back if you have any issues?
@@caseykirk4940 wot? its a tattoo, specifically made and designed, and put on your body for you. If the artist can't get what you envisioned in the tattoo that is a problem. Yeah, they're experienced artists but they aren't perfect either.
That's literally what I thought when she said that
@@caseykirk4940 their image can go sit in the corner and spin this is my tattoo on my body its my vision the artist should give a fuck about not their personal taste in art
"It annoys me when they want to know the price early"
Yeah, you know, maybe understand that for other people, this is a pretty large investment and also ... a business interaction. It is for you, you live off it. Don't act like you tattoo people for artistic charity.
There’s a way to ask for price. I’m not a tattoo artist, but I’ve seen people ask for price and have done it in a rude way... aka trying to haggle like you’re in a thrift shop.
when you walk in and the first thing out your mouth is "what's the price for a tattoo, what's the down price for a tattoo?" I would be annoyed too.
Savvy Savage Asking for a price should not be annoying, asking for a deal is.
Orias X when you ask for price before you start asking about the work you want, its gonna be annoying
Right? Would they rather we correspond for weeks just to back out when we finally hear the price?
I always get nervous about "complaining" because I don't want to annoy the artist. I don't want to micromanage every little thing. But also, this is going to be on my body forever and I'm paying a good bit of money for it. If something is off about it, it's going to bug me forever. Whereas the artist just has to be a little annoyed for our session. I always see it as a red flag when artists are vehemently against that kind of stuff because to me, how I feel about the tattoo should be the most important thing. Isn't the goal of the artist to give you something you're going to love and enjoy forever? If I was an artist, I'd rather have someone micromanage than have to live with a tattoo they don't like every day.
I got a tattoo yesterday, I felt like I was annoying the artist and I'm not 100% happy with it. But I have to learn to love it because I"m stuck with it now
I’ll be honest, I was thinking about getting a tattoo. Key word here is was
Clever Name don’t let these shitty people ruin it! Not every tattoo artist is like this, these people are just overdoing it
Most artists aren’t like this!!! Find a good one in your area and just fucking send it
Do it, most of tattoo artists are not jerks like these ones
They let the “fame” get to them lol
These artists in this video are “famous” pretentious dickholes. Go into your local parlor and I promise you, they’re the nicest, most understanding people. I had my artist redo my stencil like 20 times, apologized for being picky and he said “dude it’s gonna be on you for life, I don’t mind at all”
Are they really complaining about someone getting picky about getting something permanent on their body
Yeah they don't really think about it from their clients perspective.
I have to disagree here just a little. (I've had the same tattoo artist for a while so we're familiar with each other so maybe my situation is a bit different). Give your opinion, tell them what you want and what style you're looking for, but at the end of the day you are commissioning a piece of art. It comes with the artist part of tattoo artist.
@@bseiscio I understand what you're saying dude, their art is theirs and should be respected, but at the same time you shouldn't have to worry about looking like an asshole to someone who's putting something permanent on your body just because you want to change it
Exactly
@@bseiscio okay let's run with that logic I commission a piece of art a bowl of fruit with red roses the artist agrees to it when I come back to see the progress the roses are now blue do you think I will be impressed now add the fact this will be drilled into my skin forever
A lot of these artists, not all but most are complaining about questions that make sense to be asked. Obviously we are not tattoo artists, and we do not have as much experience with tatts..
And they do. So trust them😂
I think they're complaining more about how people ask the questions. If you were a tattoo artist and you had multiple people a day coming in and asking "How much for a tattoo" without any specifics about what they want, you'd get annoyed at that question also.
lol watching these as a tattoo artist is sad and hilarious. My clients are literally the sweetest human beings on earth, they're the only reason why I can do the job that I really love. they trust me with their bodies & I think that's extremly precious and valuable I'd absolutely never rant about a client like this! it's also a shitty format to ask these questions because It deepens the the narrative that as a client it is normal to feel intimidated by you artist while actually you should feel welcomed and understood. unless you want racist imagery, work that's culturally appropriated or sexist stuff the get the fuck out lol bye.
aw
Just because your clients were little angels....doesn't mean that's true for everyone. Not everyone gets sweet clients who will be as nice as you described. Believe it or not, some clients can be assholes who are scummy or rude. Also they aren't giving names, they are just general stuff.
Thank you!! You are more the type of artist that I’m used to and love going to. The people in this vid intimidate me lol
That's what I'm talking about. I feel like it's bc they're really popular and have a huge following. They think they're literally God for having over a million instagram followers
What do you consider cultural appropriation with tattoos?
I dont care what you did on the previous clients, I care what you're doing on me. I have every right to be picky if I'm paying for you to do something permanent on my body
Right but itis similar to going to a plastic surgeon, nail tech, cosmotologistb etc. There is some level where you have to trust their knowledge and understanding of their craft.
@@allicuddles how are you comparing plastic surgeon to a tattoo artist? Ofcorse you gotta trust the surgeon, he knows his job 10x better than you. But when it comes to tattoos you got all the right to do whatever you like with it. It's. Your. Body. I'm all good with hearing the tattoo artist's idea, but if it's something I don't like, I'm still going for my initial design.
@@MARTIJUANA So your implication is that the tattoo artist doesn't know their job 10 times better than you do, and also that when getting cosmetic surgery you don't have the right to whatever you want to your body?
@@allicuddles when did I say tattoo artist doesn't know more than us? I said exactly the opposite thing, I would love to listen to their ideas and tips, but I'll still stick to my thing if I don't like theirs.
@@MARTIJUANA I asked if that was what you were implying since you seemed shocked I would compair two professionals who make a living changing people's physical apparances.
I love how Chris explains the Mexican coke. "Not the powder but the liquid." 😂😂😂😂
He’s hilarious!
yeah he's the only one with any chill
Oh yeah the old mistaking coke the drink for coke the drug, never heard that one before
@@jamesjameson4566A male saying this? 🤔 Plenty of males find the same, repetitive joke "funny", unfortunately.
“Being overly picky” Mf I’m gonna have something permanent on my body
Edit: Wtf 1.2k likes I haven't checked shit since I made this comment lmfao but anyways thanks yall
Thot Destroyer 2000 Lmao facts 🤣🤣
Deadass🤣
If one artist says no.... Move on to the next one. You have millions of artists to choose from. Surely you will find one that will fit your needs.
You go to a tattoo artist to have their impression of your idea on your body. If you want exactly what's in your head or phone go to a 50 an hour shithole they'll put anything on you. Being overly critical defeats the purpose, it's art... their art find an artist you like give them an idea and say go, you'll get a way better tattoo because they actually are passionate about what they're doing, its theirs not yours you just get to display it
@@RedneckJimAdventures one of the few ppl who acutally understand how artist work.
So in short they hate the fact that their clients are humans and not a piece of paper with money ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Literally
exactly
No because the "how much?" and the "friends"
I noticed tattoo artists are pretty sensitive
They are artists
Alexander Hodge not rlly they r reliable for Your body and Your tattoo that lasts forever so they wanna make sure its right and everyone has pet peeves its stressful enough
oh dog just dont have specific ideas about what you want. They’re the experts btw, so they know what will work best for you
Inked snowflakes
That's a mighty arrogant statement that the artist knows what's best for you? Unless they have been lifetime friends or significant others then how can they know what's best for a individual they just met?
If that's true then I think that you should get a tattoo of sage brush on your face. Or better yet doing exactly what your parents want you to do as they know best what will work for you. Not trying to be rude here but attempting to make my point.
*Legit complaints:*
•Kids in the studio
•Being late/ reschedule w/out tattooer knowledge/consent/last minute
•Farting purposefully like no one noticed
•Poor hygiene
•Being intoxicated
•Moving around while being tatted
•Being rude while asking about the tattoo, before and during the work
•Pretending you know more than the tattooer
•Taking care of the tattoo is the clients' responsiblity
•Haggling a price
•Hitting on the tattooer
•Wanting to change the design image part way through tattooing.
•Telling the tattooer " do what you want", and then being mad when they do
*NOT legit complaints:*
•Asking for a price as one of the 1st questions. Duh. Wtf is wrong with you people.
•Upside down work. If that's what they want, it is their body.
•Picky about the tat before work is started. Duh. They are gonna have it the rest of their life, not you.
•Changing the design at the last minute before tattooing starts. It is annoying, but if they paying the price- suck it up.
•Just because you are an artist doesn't make you Michelangelo. Even if you are, Fuck you and your preference for someone else's tat. It is theirs and not yours.
this
Literally golden here
Exaaactly. Idk how many times I said exactly reading this lol but I was thinking the same thing.
I agree with just about everything except for changing the design at the last minute. Artists spend a lot of time designing the work based on the client’s specifications before the appointment. If the design is suddenly changed the artist has to just wing it. That’s not only stressful in the moment but clients are the artists’ living portfolio of their work. It’s only fair that the representation of their work be the best they can produce. Especially if the client ends up not liking it because it was rushed and improvised, then they may write a bad review of the artist.
@@codq1329 well, yes. There is a lot of nuance with that specific point, which is why didnt go into a lot of detail. I think the point being, if someone wants a change, they have to say something. Then the artist must be allowed the time to do said change, whether it is minimal or a larger difference. Such changes cost time, time is money, so the client and the artist must work out pricing ( which I left in my original bullet point).
“Mexican Coke......not the the powder, the liquid” 😂😂😂😂
He's my favorite.
Definitely meant the powder
“when they micromanage” bro it’s going to be on their body forever, they’re allowed to be picky. they’re not just a canvas for u to execute your vision on lmao
I think they mean more when you bring someone.
@@kauilanikim2199 no, they mean not trusting the artist and being controlling and being nervous and showing it by constantly asking questions to show their anxiety
They straight up refer to a client as "canvasses". Dehumanizing right there.
@@wolfmanhcc Hollywood bullshit this is the Kat Von d reality era tattoo artists not just real normal people I got my arms covered by in the 90s
That's why when you have surgery you should be awake to guide the surgeon - gotta make sure they don't fuck it up. It's your body after all...
They should do one of from the perspective of the clients. I'll start: not being clear about prices before doing the work (no, i dont want a deal, i just need to know how much to budget for).
not sending me the design beforehand. I'm not going to nitpick it to death but I would like to know what I'm walking into and maybe there is one thing I'd like to tweak a bit. Now you have time to change that and I'm happy.
That’s why you say what you want and give them your budget, if they charge over that, then you could bitch at them but any good artist will stick within your budget
Some places near me say they're cash only. Welp I'm gonna need to know the cost so I can bring enough cash
So, basically dont ask for price?
Sorry , not all of us are filthy rich to not ask about it beforehand.
it's better to ask for a ballpark range for "this particular idea, that's this big, using mostly these colors", instead of "how much is a tattoo?". a lot of things can change commission work.
i have a friend who makes custom furniture. it frustrates him to no end when people say "i want a bed". ...it's like asking "i want a car". well, you can buy a pinto, or you can buy a porsche... what are you looking for? what's your price range? what do you need and want? ...in that light, people start saying "okay, well, i want a twin bed that looks like this picture here, in this color wood"... and it creates a starting point to create an estimate.
so, too, does the problem exist in art.
"i want a tattoo". okay, do you want a black star outline on your thigh, or a photorealistic back piece in full color? asking for an average price for something of "this size" would be better than an estimate, which would be better than a solid price
That's what I was thinking! How am I going to make sure I can pay you unless I ask for the price first?
Actually they aren’t filthy rich they have to ducking by those professional products to use it on you god damn body I’m sorry you think artists are rich but listen here they fucking aren’t
@@AngryPanda. how can they give you a price, unless they know what you want, how well you sit still, how often you'll change your mind half-way through, and how long they have to wait after you've passed out?
@@IAmValenwind They could give you an hourly rate surely..which you could then make an estimate from...
How is being too picky a bad thing?? We are the ones who are paying to have it on our body for the rest of our lives, not you. So you're damn right I'll be picky!
But the artist has planned what line is going to be where and what depth it is in the drawing and how its going to connect to what and all sorts of other things.
There is a time and a place for the design process and it is not in the chair.
Also, the tattoo artist probably has a fuck tonne more experience than you and knows that whatever it is you want “white” is just going to be faded in a month and blamed on them.
They can't make it perfect if you want it the way you picture it, do it yourself
"Too" means excessive, Kelly.
Ev M you dumb fucking bitch did you really just say that if you are displeased with them not being able to tattoo you like you want them then you should do it yourself
@@SugaSwooga MY money to have it on MY body, Alyssa.
I’m a receptionist at a tattoo shop and though I understand these artists sound like divas, it would amaze you how many people walk in expecting a masterpiece sleeve for $200 and need it done in two hours. Being able to tattoo properly and well takes sooo much time and effort. Many people don’t understand that there are about a million factors that go into how good a tattoo will look when it’s healed.
Correction, you're a receptionist for a bunch of douche bags
Now this is definitely understandable. Makes it sound like half the clients these guys get are just awful 😂
they act like the person getting permanent art on their body is wrong for being specific
maybe they shouldn't get a piece of art that they know isn't guaranteed to be the exact way they want it on their body?
lol right? this is a major red flag when getting a service done. Hairstylists also put a lot of money into their work. They also have bills to pay. They talk like this just once? They're closed in 6 months.
Potted Plant it’s going to be on that persons body FOREVER I think the least they can do is be specific about their own body and money that they’re paying for.. there shouldn’t even an argument there.
I think it's not that weird too. Since it's permanent it's not weird that you're worried or even scared how it'll turn out. Even if you know the artist is the best
When something needs to be done in a certain way(like a project) I'm also constantly reminding the person that it should be this way etc. 🤷♀️ you're just worried about it nothing weird or wrong about it
Yes.
Client: So I want to get a tattoo..
Tattoo artist: sO aNnOyInG 😒
Some of these people think they are mythical beasts.. they're not.
Lol
I can understand artists getting upset about potential clients trying to score a "deal," but after I tell you what *I* want as a tattoo, the most crucial aspect left is *to find out how much it costs.* A lot of the annoyances these artists talk about just go along with the business - they seem to forget that a client is employing them, and yeah, they get to decide WTF they want on their bodies, paid for with their money.
Jane Timm Baxter exactly: AFTER you tell then what you want. But artists on this video are referring to people asking right away the cost of something without addressing important details such as size, placement, technique, etc.
That's after though. Rarely will they get annoyed at you asking the price after you've given them all the details. They're annoyed at the people who come into the shop and go "how much for a tattoo" without giving any details or specifics.
@@imsorryehh4905 wtf😂😂😂
But asking after giving them an idea of what you want and letting them digest it, that’s an appropriate time. That’s not the first question. That’s not walking into a shop or hopping DMs and saying “how much is like a medium arm piece” with no indication of the actual tattoo you want
ImSorry Ehh So they’re annoyed at someone who’s a new potential client? Yea... that’s smart... not illogical at all
These people forget that without clients, they don't have jobs.
Yea without the people the complain about, they are literally nothing lol
Well thy would, but not in the tattoo industry.
Yeah, its almost like they're being interviewed in a separate place from their workplace and asked their innermost thoughts and feelings about their work. Weird, huh? 🤔
They kinda would but just not in the tattoo industry, you got to remember that it’s basically their passion for art so even in the art industry they are still gonna have jobs
short answer: having to take their client into consideration.
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“Wanting to make it go down a really specific road” “being overly picky” sorry i want to make sure the art that is permanently on my body isnt fugly?
Well then, it's your prerogative to do your own research on the artists who tattoo in the style you want beforehand. You cannot micromanage someone after you ask them to tattoo you. You've got to trust that they have your best interest, which they probably do since no one wants a bad piece in their portfolio or a bad review. It makes the experience a whole lot worse for the both of you
@@Rachel-lc8jm I mean just because I admire most of your work it doesn't mean you get to decide for me. You'll be creating an unique piece just for me so even if I find your art amazing, I might not even like what you're planning.
No matter how skilled of an artist you are, you will never know better than the client because the goal is to make the clients wishes to come true. Who cares about your portfolio... Your job is to make the client satisfied or you suck.
I'd find it super annoying if my client was like "do whatever you want" and then walking out the door disappointed in any way. No matter how proud I am of the result it means I've failed. Your fans on instagram aren't the ones paying you or walking around with the result for the rest of their lives, spreading words about how disappointed they got.
Do you care more about your own pride and fame than what you care about making the ones who ask for your services happy?
How about do a “30 annoying things tattoo artists do” video?
@Carissa Mcdonald Talking shit about another client to an artist next to them while their tattooing you. I once went with my bf when he got a tattoo, and one of the artists in the shop was talking shit about one of his clients to my bf's artist. It was so awkward to hear that.
Imagine being “overly picky” about a design when it’s gonna be on your body for the rest of your life. Like I’m not gonna let go a bit. Lmao
They get mad when u ask how much. I'm finding out if I can afford it and not waste your time. These videos are showing me that tattoo artist are cry babies
I think it was aimed more towards people who just walk in and ask how much for a tattoo. Like, most places charge based on things like size, colour, style, so on and so forth, though I know some do charge by hour. Either way it would be annoying cus it makes your work feel cheap and worthless in the eyes of the client, and I'm pretty sure someone watering down your very work to the price is bound to be insulting and annoying. If you seriously wanted a tattoo from that person, the price shouldn't be too big a deal, since it means that you think their art is worth it
This was more about people who ask this as a first question or seeking out a deal. Talking budget is fine with most.
I mean you should know how much money you have or how much it might cost. Just don’t be a broke boy
these* most really are not. and if they are well fuck them go to another
Cause making sure you like something that’s going to be on your body forever is a bad thing 🙄🙄
Lol ukr fuck what they think,do the tattoo however the client wants it simple as that.
Your only alive for 60 more years tops, it's Just skin. Who cares
It’s their profession? And besides, tattoo artists aren’t mind readers. There’s a difference between tiny details being changed and changing the style of that artist.
Robin Persaud anybody getting a tattoo should research their artist before hand and actually enjoy their work before getting a custom design tattoo by them it’s just common sense don’t go to an artist if you don’t like their work.
Yah which is precisely what I do lol
This video has made all tattoo artist look like very unlikable people
That's only because you cant understand another perspective except your own. Nothing wrong with being yourself. XD
@@woodlandxwarrior No. It's because these people are douchy.
Sir Uppercrust III ???
@ I'm a welder by trade. My welds are considered art and they are productive to society as they are literally used to hold structures together. But if I demand $100+ a hour for my dangerous and exhausting work while acting like the customer is the biggest pain, I lose my job lol. Artists, musicians, actors, singers, they all act like their 💩 don't stink
NPC 43887819 I think the difference with your job and all the other ones you mentioned is customer service. Since artists have to deal with a bunch of different personalities ranging from sensitive to downright psycho, you can’t really blame them for being judgmental. They do this for a living so have to deal with a bunch of bs in order to get paid
4:33 she blinked like 7,000 times in like 3 seconds lol
Bro i laugh so hard a snot came out of my nose
Things that annoy the clients? NOT TELLING THEM HOW MUCH ITS ITS GOING TO COST!!!!!!
My cuz was getting a large quote on his chest, they agreed on the price and off he went working on it. Literally an hour left to finish he said yea its going to be another 300. Cousin payed it incase he fucked it up but I thought it was a disgrace. Hes told that many people that the guy done himself out of way more work
THEY CAN'T KNOW BEFORE IT'S DONE
@@williamd-cloutier3848 why? Surely they know the average time required and detail required on a specific piece. Like any job
@@dcarson89 yes but not the exact price
@@williamd-cloutier3848 Sorry that's bullshit. We've agreed on the price before going in, if they take longer than expected it's on the artist. Sorry mate, don't have another 300. Here's what we agreed on. I'm leaving.
Tattoo artist are easily triggered is what I got out of this vid
chris valadez it’s not just that it’s just hearing the same shit over and over
Bree Is Mee , same goes for Chris Showstoppr, he seems like a real friendly funny guy
Nah clients just treat them like trash
Want to have a friendly tattoo artist ask for a expensive tattoo they stay quiet
Its a job where you put art on another human being, and if you fuck up it's literally on your ass and business. Not triggered it's called worrying about your business. Use your head dummy
I've several tattoos and I'm surprised by a couple of these answers.
Asking price is bad? Then how the hell am I supposed to know what to pay you or how to budget for a bigger, several session piece? I get it can be annoying if someone comes in and the first thing they do is badger an artist about cost, but that's more about timing and rudeness than anything. I've never had an artist get irritated when we had to discuss pricing, so either these people have had a string of shitty, rude clients or they're just being unreasonable.
As for being picky, damn right I am. I'm fine with the artist drawing up an idea on paper and showing it to me first (which is what was done with almost all of my tats), but you're out of your fucking mind if you think I'm going to let you go freestyle on my SKIN with something that'll be on me FOR LIFE. Unless you want to pay the bill when I have to go in for laser removal? No? Didn't think so. Any artist that gets annoyed over "nit picky" clients when it comes to permanent body modification needs to check their ego like yesterday.
Obviously you can ask the price but it shouldn't be the first question. Like some people go "how much for a sleeve?" and you're like ummmmmm well it depends on several things... I have several tattoos but I've never even had to ask for the price, I've always been given an estimate and the estimate has never changed, even once I paid 100 € less than the initial estimate.
They literally said it was annoying when it's the first thing people ask. Tattoos aren't done on flat rates. Most tattoo artists charge by the hour. These days, I would say expect like $150 an hour. So, without an idea of what they'll be doing, they literally can't give you a price. If you're serious about a tattoo, expect to pay good money. You can talk about rates and how many hours the tattoo will take, but that's what the consultation is for.
No one said anything about going freestyle. The complaints about people being overly picky is referring to people who try to micromanage the tattoo. Tattoo artists' livelihoods are dependent on doing good quality tattoos, and being overly picky as a client can lead to design choices that look misshapen on a certain part of the body, lines that are too close together and just blur together over time, color choices that don't work well on the skin, etc. There are compromises that *have* to be made with tattoos to make them work on the body.
What they meant by the price is people who asked how much a tattoo cost without the artist knowing the design. All design cost differently
I don’t understand why asking for an estimate for their hourly rate is. I can love your work and agree that it’s worth however much but if I can’t afford I can’t afford and I don’t want to waste either of our time.
Asking for a price of a tattoo before telling them what you want is like walking up to a car dealer and asking for a price of a car before telling them what kind you are looking for.
Now do "100,000 Things That Annoy Tattoo Customers | Our Turn"
said this last time about when they all burst into tears about people asking prices, so I’ll gloss over how stupid that is again. And I say this as a tattoo artist. People NEED to know how much they’re tattoo is going to be, it’s not an insult. The fact they’re there is a good thing. People NEED to know how much money to bring as most places are cash in hand, they also NEED to know if they can afford it. I’d be far, far more annoyed if at the end of the tattoo they didn’t have enough money. Walking into a shop and asking how much a coat is doesn’t mean you think the coats shit, it means you want to buy it but you want to make sure you can afford it.
On to the point of them crying because people are “picky.” Yes ofc it’s more fun as an artist to be given free reign but people are PAYING you (or at least they will if they’re allowed to actually ask how much money you want) to put a permanent mark on their skin. They have absolutely every right to be picky if they so choose. If its something that simply will not work as a tat then that’s fine, that’s your job to explain but in terms of people picking out details? Absolute snowflakes these artist. Get offended off absolutely everything. They’re also incredibly unintelligent as they can’t even use the brain power required to figure out people want to know how much something is and they’re all incredibly snobby because they can draw. I wouldn’t go to any of these regardless of how good their work might be. Absolute morons.
I would say if there’s people who are thinking of getting a tattoo , especially if it’s your first. I would say ignore these idiots. Absolutely no rational thinking human being would think like this so please don’t let these brain dead knuckle dragging idiots put you off.
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That’s not what they’re getting at though, they’re clearly offended because they think that the customer think their work is only worth a certain amount. That’s why they say things like “if you like our work it doesn’t matter” ect and things of that nature. Indicating to me they’re clearly taking it personally. Beside I get loads of people come in and go how much do you charge and I say specific peace’s already drawn up the price and custom work £60 an hour. Then when they’ve told me what they want I’ll estimate and say it will probably take about 3 hours so I’ll add that up (well the apprentice will) when booking in and take a £20-£30 deposit depending on the tattoo size. Even if they were on abou that (which the from what they’re saying they’re not nit imo) it’s still absolutely no annoyance whatsoever. Even if for example you had a brain injury or something and couldn’t think or speak the words “we charge by the hour, tell me what you want and I can price it up” it’s still not a problem at all in anyway shape or form.
And to use the analogy of a car that is exactly what you do. Well most people hopefully will have the common sense to look online first but say you want the new E-Class you still go into Mercedes and say I want to buy the E-Class and then they do their jobs that people pay them and say what extras, do want Mercedes services deal, what colour, what interior, do you want the AMG line, do you want it finance, do you want it lease, are you a drug dealer that has £45,000 in your pocket now? Then they’ll go the the final price with you, just like working in a tattoo studio.
Yes hallelujah thank you so much!!!
There's a tattoo studio i've seen where they actually have a gallery of tattoos in different price ranges so you can get an idea of what can you get for your money. That would be super useful.
I also learned to phrase the how much will it cost question as "how much money should i bring to be sure to cover the tattoo cost?" so the artist instantly understands i really just want to know how much cash should i have on me.
Same with time, i also state WHY i want to know so they don't think it's the usual "oh i want it done quick" but, for example my boyfriend will pick me up so what should he expect or we want to go see someone after the tattoo and when should they expect us, this way my artist actually understand she can say 6 hours and i will be fine with it, i just want to know how to plan my day, i'm not in a hurry.
No shit people are overly picking. It’s going to be on their body forever.
How dare customers want what they want on THEIR body!
Ikr so rude :/
You're going to an artist for a piece of art created specifically for you, but in the style of the artist that you chose. You shouldn't be selecting an artist because you think they're the best, you should be selecting them because you think they do the style that you specifically want the best.
If you don't want a piece of art, go buy a tshirt or a poster or something.
@@TheSwagSociety A poster or t-shirt are pieces of art still, someone has to draw and design the design just like a tattoo artist... Idk why people think tattoo artists are holier than thou. Just because someone's not a tattoo artist doesn't mean they're not artistic, period. It's a two way street, just be a cool customer and be a cool TA, the tattoo IS going on their body forever, but do your research before coming in and wasting everyone's time.
The point is that you should be selecting the artist you want your work from based on the kind of work they do. Treat them like an artist, not a machine that just prints out your imagination. Not everyone can do everything you ask, and not everything you ask for can even be done. And remember, they have no obligation to put ANYTHING on your body.
The upside down whiny really triggers me out; I want to remember, not be remembered
These tattoo artists sound “overly picky” to me. 🤷🏻♀️
Mandy Grass i mean they were specifically asking them what annoys them
how on earth is asking the price for a service they provide annoying
They don't wanna admit they are price gouging lol
I think they meant in a way that the costumer ask for the price before even talking about the design or if the artist have time oh his/her schedule.
They dont want to admit they are overcharging by a lot.
They said if the first thing you ask is how much, if you ask for a price before even presenting your idea, you know a small heart on your wrist is a bit easier to do than a full back piece
Agree. I don't know of any business you don't ask about the price.
When I'm asking about money, my trick is to say "What's your pricing like?" rather than "How much?" Gives me a ballpark figure without needing them to be exact.
That's actually hella smart. I usually discuss the piece I want first and go over the logistics then ask the price after we have an idea what were doing. But these videos give me anxiety to go into shops
yeah i usually ask what an estimate might be and then bring the amount on the higher end of that
"What are your rates?" is good too
YUP. Or “Can I get a quote for this?” once they’ve had time to spec. Or “how many shop hours are you thinking for this?” -as everyone charges by the hour. I understand the artists not wanting to feel devaluated. I’ve gotten 15+ tattoos and never had a problem. Just be a nice human.
@Carissa Mcdonald A professional artist will usually give you an estimate once they know what you want, or will be straightforward when you book the appointment for a consult that your tattoo session will cost X regardless of time (i.e. booking the whole day)
“Mexican coke, NOT THE POWDAH”
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"the thing that annoys me the most as a tattoo artist is when the bar closes early"
that's a tattoo artist for ya
I think asking how much a design that you have in mind might cost is acceptable. When I ask a price it's not like I'm asking for a deal, I just want to know when I'll be able to afford it. It's like getting a quote on something. Sure, you might not ve able to get it right away, but at least you won't waste the artists time until you can afford the tattoo.
Yeah but I think they were referring to people who come in and ask for the price before anything else. Without even talking about the design
Yeah imagine being a tattoo artist and designing a tattoo with the person and everything is going great. Then they ask the price and realize they cant afford it so they go find another tattooer. How angry would you be at that moment rather than if they had started the conversation with a question of the price?
@@vesicapiscis9717 the design of the tattoo shouldn't matter. when you do construction(which is far harder than tattoo work) you don't charge based on the design unless you are doing something like stamped concrete or using special materials. the only thing that matters is how difficult it will be to do and how long it will take.
Why wouldn’t it be acceptable to wonder how much it might be before going any further and wasting both sides time
houseofaction they’re talking about those who try and cut a deal and those who ask about price before even describing what they want. A heart isn’t going to be the same amount as a sleeve. Just like construction a cottage won’t be the same as a skyscraper
Sure let me just pay for this service for which I'm not allowed to ask the price ? :')
It shouldn't be an issue unless the price is literally the first thing you ask when you come in w/o even discussing the design. I think that's the artists' problem
Because it depends on what youre asking om, what it is, how big how small, how detailed, how long it takes to do like a lot plays into it you cant hit a tattoo artist and expect an answer without diacussing the specifics of a tattoo
@Dawn Gunderman How are you going to know the range if you don't say what you want done to your hair? You don't even have to divulge all the details.
Even asking "How much for cutting hair" is much more helpful for both you and the salon instead of a simple "How much"
Yeah exactly
the price depends on the tattoo. asking for the price first isn't gonna help
I've honestly never understood pricing when it comes to tattoos. It shouldn't be hard for a tattoo artist to say "I take x amount of money per hour - this tattoo I estimate will take approximately x amount of hours, so you're gonna have to pay at least x and maximum x". In no other profession can you say "oh, this was extra difficult, so the payment is gonna be higher". You're gonna have though tasks at work and you're gonna have easy tasks at work. Your salary won't change based on the difficulty level of your tasks. I have several tattoos, and some artists I've gone to have provided hourly rates and others have refused to even give me an estimate of how much it's gonna cost until it's done. And like most people who get tattoos do, I save up for a long time to get them. The fact that so many artists in this video claim that it's annoying when clients ask for the price after having spent long hours working to save up to go to a good artist is just arrogant and rude imo.
They are definitely referring to people who just send them a design, without a consultation, and ask for a price.
Pretty sure most of them don’t get payed by the hour. It’s about how big the tattoo is, what kind of design, color or black&grey and where on the body you want it.
Before discussion all of that, you shouldn’t be asking for a price.
Some styles are more difficult than others and you're paying for their experience and talent. You wouldn't go to an artist and expect them to pay only an hourly fee. It's not just about time, some styles can be tedious to do and they wouldn't dp them at all if they didn't get paid more.
Exactly! I'm a wedding videographer. I cant imagine telling my customers, your price depends on how long it takes me to edit. I'll have the total afterwards.
"how dare you be picky about something thats going to be on your forever! just let me do what i think looks cool!" SMH
** overly picky. Picky is okay but when you start being overly picky you mine as well leave and do it yourself because either way its not going to turn out as well.
@@keegking1582 exactly and you should have done research on the artist before hand so you know if you like there art style
@@keegking1582 When I got my tattoo done, I gave the bloke an idea and was like yeah sure whatever you think is right. But, if I had something specific I wanted, I would want that specific thing. Doesn't matter if they think this or that looks better. It's my body, why can you just out what I want on it.
@@ShinigamiShionZ it's because tatooers are artists and if you go to them you should have already looked at their work and liked it... Some artists can do certain tattoos and if they put it in their own style it will, 100% look better. I get that it's going to be on your body forever but you have to work with the artist on some things.
This is why we need to go back to flash
So you expect to us to get a tattoo you made and it has something i don't liek on my body for the rest of my life? Without even knowing the price? Riiight
RIGHTttt like ??? this is gonna b on me 4eva and eva. b annoyed, im paying u to make something 4 me 4 eva so yeah
That pop punk kid I think they mean that the first question is asked is the price. You have to tell them the design, size, and how intricate it would be. It’s like going to a restaurant and you just Ask how much. It depends on what you want to eat and if you want extra stuff. It’s not a flat rate for everything. Obviously the customer should be quoted for a price before they start to tattoo.
Exactly!
your common sense level= -9000
@@levinathan9313 bruh stop talking like that i dont need to lose a chromosome
love the kiwi dude lol "mexican coke not the powder but the liquid" 😂😂😂 "hate when the bar closes early" lmfao classic kiwi
Bitch No 😂 such an underrated joke
"When they ask how much" what? It's way better for them to ask that early on because then if they can't afford it they're not wasting your time... would you rather them sit down and plan it out with you and then be like "oh I can't afford that"
"I think being overly picky about your design" um...it's on your body forever they every right to want it perfected..?
( I'm a tattooist btw Additional Edit: add my Snapchat: Luna-valentine )
nice to get a tattooer who watches our comments. I think tattooers deserve a good price as its on your body forever but should be a way to ask the price. Including tip. Since you are here Luna....what should be the percentage for tip? Thanks
Yeah I feel like both asking for a price, as well as having a clear vision are both the customers right. I do art commissions, not tattoo work but still art, and people asking for quotes to get an idea of what they can afford as well as having a specific idea of what they want are completely understandable.
Especially for something that's going to end up on your body permanently as a tattoo, some people will be comfortable with artistic liberty in the moment and some people want what theyve envisioned.
Just because they have a vision doesnt mean they have the technical skill to do it themselves, so "if you're going to be picky why are you having someone else do it" doesnt always work as an argument
Part of that comes down to picking an artist you believe can realistically being your vision to life, but still....the customer is allowed to have that vision lmao
(Edit: that's not to say act like you know how tattooing works better than the tattooist, micromanaging is understandably annoying. But having a specific idea for the design itself is fine imo)
That one sounded weird to me too. By all means be as picky as you want... I'd rather not do a cover later or have you think I did a bad job because it's not exactly how you envisioned it....
(I'm just finishing my certification course now so I haven't been doing this long enough to develop a big ego yet)
Exactly! It's on my body why won't I be picky? Fuckkkk
dave I’m not an artist but I tip depending on the person, the piece and the time it took. I mean I got a Friday the 13th tattoo for 20 bucks and it took about 30 minutes but she was super nice, made conversation, and took her time on the tattoo so I gave a 25 dollar tip.
What annoys the customer: WHEN THE ARTIST TAKES A WHOLE HOUR TO SET UP
julie sansone I wait til my client gets there to set up so you can see the sanitary and sterile process. That way theirs no confusion and you don’t have any reason to think I’m a dirty scumbag.
So fucking true that's why i change two arists by now dude i pay you to tattoo me not waisting my money
Especially when you had an appointed set up. It’s also annoying when a walk in comes in for a piercing and they stop tattooing you to pierce them.
So? It’s sanitary ISNT IT?
Watching 2 people get set up 5 minutes before you and leave hours ahead for similar size tats, it’s hard to not be a little upset 🤷♀️
“They want to steer the tattoo into a very specific, narrow direction”
Uh yea it’s a permanent tattoo that would be going on my body....imma be specific about that
I'm glad I found a professional he doesnt mind tattooing anything as long as I have permission to use the art. I usually commission an artist to draw my tattoo and just go in with the design already done
My bro actually went to those dudes shop. They really chill people and specialize in realism. I don’t know about the other tattoo artist but I’m taking their word. These the type of people if you bring them a piece of work 9/10 they’ll do it unless they truly thing the idea is bad
Anna G those guys actually specialize in designing tattoos so most people just come with them for designing and tattoos. If you just bring them a piece of paper unless it’s something they don’t approve of, they’ll do it. They specialize in design tho.
Totally with Ryan Ashley with healing. Every tattoo I have I have been given different after care and I always follow what that artist told me and never had an issue. They know how their work heals best so I go with it! And it works
Some of these things I get, but others it makes me glad how sweet my tattoo lady is and how understanding she is when I ask certain questions.
Okay. I'm allowed to be picky as hell because it's *MY BODY.* Yeah I'm your canvas but it's on MY body forever. So yeah, *I'M GONNA BE PICKY.*
and you are paying them, like wtf
Stfu
For real! My artist had to adjust my stencil three times because it didn't look right to me. I apologised for being a pain and he was like 'Hey, it's gonna be there for the rest of your life, you're the one who has to live with it, it has to look good to *you*'. Which, y'know, makes sense.
Damn chill..
Dilynne H. Then deal with a shitty fucked up tattoo because it had to be “Your way”, your the person these guys are talking about, there’s a difference between being overly picky and specific.
“Hey could you do this for me?”
“Umm well you’ve seen my work so decide on that.”
? That was a weak try at them. . also didnt hear any of them say that .
@@Spotter000 7:32
Considering them as artists, he has a point: if he specialises on a particular thing, he's not the right one for your idea
They're not copying machines
You can always find another one that can suit your style
@@cc1093 Yeah but what if an artist you like does fantastic life like animals. You want a fantastic, life like elephant, but they don't have any elephants in their portfolio. Can they do it? Maybe. But just because you're good at drawing one animal, doesn't make you instantly great at doing all animals.
@@Spotter000 Did you even watch the video wtf
sorry for asking how much its gonna be, thought you wanted to get paid lol
When you get tattooed in prison you ask “how many soups is this gonna cost me?” And nobody complains that you asked them that.
Asking abvout the price wasn't the issue. It's the fact that they don't tell you what the tattoo is first as if we all charge the same thing for every tattoo
Thomas Randolph they never said that so you don’t know
@@kydog218 Im telling you as an artist and previous apprentice. It's insinuated but any non-artist would pick it up. so I would know
Ima tattoo artist and 95% of these answeres are trash
Really ? I doubt that ... They sound pretty valid too me . I don't want any tats and I'm not an artist .. just a sensible person .. but you probably balance shit on your head while tat huh .. what an inspiration you beautiful little flower
@@Spotter000 what was the point of this response?
@@Spotter000 lol dont get butthurt just live life
Kid Yetti bro what? If I want an exact copy of a frame from Calvin and Hobbes on my ankle I don’t want an artsy interpretation
@@Spotter000 Dude what? "Sensible person"? Yeah okay dude
These guys seem so pretentious. They are the problem with half of these things. "Ah look at me I'm a big hot shot tattoo artist, dont ask me questions."
Levi Griffin especially the French guy with the shitty dreads
I would consider these guys artists. With art you can’t be constantly try and change what the artist is doing. Yes you are paying and it’s on your body but once you pay and you’re on that table you’re in the artists hands. You pay for the artist. You don’t pay to bitch at the artist.
I asked "what makes a bad client" in a tattoo group on fb and a lot of people surprisingly said "showing up EARLY". Not 5-10 minutes early but like 30-40 mins early and explained that they schedule their day based on the work they're doing and now might not get a break, get a lunch, just chill for a bit between appointments, finish up other things they need to work on, whatever because they don't want to just leave you sitting there for an hour. So if you're appointment is at 10. Be there at 10. Same for Hairdressers and the like i'd assume.
Tattoo artists are the most annoying part of getting a tattoo. I can understand their view of not being haggled with - that’s disrespectful and you shouldn’t feel disrespected as an artist.
An approximate price for a general idea and being picky for something permanently on your body is hardly an issue.
"You want something exactly the way you see it in your head and you want to adjust to your liking because its going to be on your body forever??? God youre such an annoying micromanager."
timestamp?
I watched it twice. This quote is not in the video. It sounds like this when they are talking about mikromanaging but this is not a quote from the video.
Teak K 2:10
try 2:25 :) asking you to sit still and quit complaining isnt a lot to ask
Not every tattoo concept works out as a tattoo. When an artist is attempting to construct a design based on the client's ideas, they typically take into consideration longevity. This is where butting heads comes into play. Clients will want a specific design that just simply cannot be translated the same way into skin, and will end up with a tattoo that will look like a hot mess in a couple years' time. But many clients don't want to hear it because they saw it on Pinterest and think that the Pin has more authority over tattoos than their own artist. This is why it can be annoying when someone tries to micromanage, especially in a direction where the end result will be a tattoo that simply won't age well.
they just hot headed because they are famous i go to normal street shops and they are so calm and understanding
naw. It's the same thing for street shops too. we hate all of the same things, but street shops are more for profit rather than artistic reputation. so they'll put up with more BS
Thomas Randolph True but probablyy their is some really annoying clients lol
@@CarlosRamirez-zu6cs ohhh yess. Artists too. They only show their true malice to the shop bitch lol (The Apprentice)
How can the question: “how much?” be annoying?
Do you WANT to get paid? 🤷♀️
I think he meant when ppl dm asking how much a piece is, depends what you want and your size.. Mine sleeve was £1500, my mates was £3000 as he had a lot more detail and colour, so no, it cant be answered in a dm..
@@leannelnind207 Yes I see but then it is the perfect time to explain that to the customer. Just so the customer knows how much money it might cost then they can save up to it. Take a second job or something 😆😆
@@Figen.E Fortunately over here in the UK most tattoo shops (all the 6 I've used at least) have an hourly rate, the tattooist would then give an idea on consultation about how long roughly, I'd then add an extra 2 hours just in case..
@@leannelnind207 Well that’s good then you at least know how much it might be. But to get annoyed as an tattoo artist for a question that is easy to explain 🤷♀️