just wanted to say, this comment section is a safe space for people apart of the lgbtq community. if i suspect you're being queerphobic in the comment section i will either hide you from the channel or delete your comment. noone should be hated for their own identity. thanks for reading.
Exactly. I think thats the reason it hit so hard for me. As well as the total lack of emotion from everyone else. It hit harder than if everyone had reacted or tried to do something.
@@braindead3287z the whole point of the movie is that she is a trans woman that is too scared to come out or did you not pay attention to the movie. This movie was made by and for trans people, so you're if you're transphobic you're not in the right place. Go to a maga groups and leave us trans woman alone.
That feeling when you've been following a certain path your entire life and it suddenly occurs to you that it was all a huge mistake. All those wasted years that you can never get back.
This absolutely broke my heart. This is true horror. The desperate slow-moving horror of knowing you've taken the wrong path, knowing that the person you were meant to be is slipping through your fingers. It's almost more awful that, as the sidewalk chalk says, there IS still time. But you're too trapped, too scared to ever change. So everyday you lose that better path, over and over again. Absolutely stunning.
BEAUTIFULLY said. the meaning this scene is something that i've struggled to put into words, and this is exactly what i've been trying to say. you get it.
Easily the most disturbing thing about this scene to me is the fact that everyone just goes blank. No reassurances, no looks, not even a gasp. Everyone is indifferent to his pain and just wants to get on with it. Terrifyingly relevant.
The first time I saw this scene I thought that the indifference was also so that you wouldn't feel discomfort, so that there would only be one main feeling in this scene: despair.
Shit that gave me a whole mushroom flashback. I swear when I eat a whole eighth of shrooms and they finally kicked in this is what happened to my friends. One minute they where hyped then the next nothing just blank like they where NPCs and the matrix was breaking. It freaked me out so I tried to make myself go to sleep than my whole perception of reality just collapsed in on itself. I think it was because I finally feel asleep. The dream was super bizzare I can't really put into words and explain the feelings or what I was experiencing but it was like the universe was telling me *everything* in life is yin and yang.
@@Sleepless420this is what made me really be scared of this scene cuz where he realizes somthing is wrong and freaks out is like when your tripping and you snap out of reality and back in is so so so freaky this scene literally make me so freaked oht lmao
This scene broke me. I have too many words and emotions and thoughts jumbled up in my head to be able to express them all articulately through a UA-cam comment but I've screamed these screams a hundred times over in my head and my heart. I haven't been able to let them out yet but I hope that one day I can and I hope that when I do someone will hear them. I'm dying here.
My stepdad has destoryed my soul. He is just a terrible terrible person- and there were so many times where I just wanted to yell at him- but I always stayed quiet. Always have been quiet- and the rage is building up. Idk how much longer I can keep it in.
i cannot describe how many times ive felt like this. this is it for me. "Im dying right now" in a body that is not mine. ive screamed like this too. transitioning is going to save my life.
Cisgender people so often don't understand that gender affirming care is *literally* life saving. It's not something trivial for us. It's the line between life and death, living and giving up. It's the light at the end of the tunnel except it's when we really begin our lives, through the death of our old selves. We have to lay in the grave with the dirt packed in too tight by some burn out kid from the mall, so we can crawl into our new selves and be free
@@joshie7651I literally just commented on another video that Owen and Maddy are both coded autistic. Autistic people are statistically 10x more likely to identify as trans/gender nonconforming
It's either this, or right after Owen abandons Maddie for the last time. She barely even looks confused, like she knew deep down he wasn't going to go through with it.
the scream that owen let out is the scream ive been wanting to let out for my entire life. this scene is just so... you can tell its the culmination of everything before it. pure, utter anguish. what a masterful film
My favorite thing about this film is that, while yes, it is very explicitly a trans narrative, and a brilliantly done one at that, the feelings/themes this movie conveys are so universal. This can also apply to feeling like youre stuck in life; like youve wasted so many years; like youve gone down a path you always knew would never be right or true for you. I'm not trans, but this movie struck such a chord in me regardless. I have spent so much of my life trapped in fear because risking it all on a potentially better future is just so scary to me. But sometimes, in order to be true to ourselves, we need to take that leap of faith; we need to peel ourselves open layer by layer, and only by accepting what dwells beneath can we really, truly begin to live.
I see this works as that universal experience but looking from the outside, I'm not sure how this applies to being trans? Are we meant to be thinking that he's not crying about being in a fake environment or a miserable job, or the mismatch between his life and a protagonising experience, but instead just that he's a guy?
@@hyphzthe movie is kinda explicitly and without debate a movie about transness. The trans director has stated as much. That said, I do kinda love that not everyone is able to pick up on it. People are much more open to empathy when they feel they’re able to relate to one another. The universal experience of realizing you have allowed your life and your very self to slip through your fingers is incredibly useful for helping cis people understand that trans people aren’t these weird monsters or whatever that politicians want to pretend we are. We’re going through a struggle that isn’t impossible to understand or empathize with.
@@momolili308 I’m aware of the directors intent. The problem is that it falls into a common trap, of trying to make gender dysphoria more relatable by representing it as general detachment from the world. The problem is, that’s way more common and usually unavoidable. So the message might be meant to be “poor Owen has to do this horrid scary thing in order to be his true self”, but it comes over as “Owen CAN be his true self by doing this scary thing, while most people just never can.” The fact that in the story Owen also gets to be “beautiful and powerful”, AND young again, makes this even worse.
@@hyphz I don’t really see it as a problem. There is overlap between the way that gender dysphoria feels and the vague existential dread of feeling like life passed you by. Hell, oftentimes they go hand in hand. I love that cis people are able to watch the movie and still relate to it because the struggles trans people face are unique but aren’t so unique to be completely detached from things that cis people have dealt with.
@@momolili308 It's a problem because it's easy to feel envy for Owen instead of sympathy. He has a perfect way out, but most people do not. "There is still time" is literally true for him because of the time warp, but not so much for anyone else.
There is no more desperate and horrible feeling than this one. Knowing that you have made so many bad decisions in your life, knowing that it really wasn't your fault, but despite that, you have locked yourself into this shitty life. It seems like there is no escape, as a phrase from Disco Elysium says "True love is only possible in the next world, for new people. It's too late for us." Because what do you have left in this life? I would give absolutely everything, my life, my memories, my whole person, absolutely everything to be happy. To be able to live another life in which I can be happy... Edit: I wrote the correct quote
@@WolfTeen2010I stole this from a Letterboxd review so I can't take credit for it, but I think this deserves to be here: "Owen never really took a single thing Maddie said to heart, not even when she said to stop apologizing for everything."
@@MilkyWayGrumpexcept by the end (spoilers) he does :( he peels open his heart and sees inside of himself (herself). She sees what Maddy was trying to show her. She goes back to work after that, but nothing will ever be the same. We don't see her transition or if she transitions, or anything after that, but I saw the ending as bittersweet - a very small step in the right direction while still having to live in this bleak world (maybe temporarily? Maybe permanently?)
It was my realization at a young age that a life of regret would lead to something like this, a painful burning feeling that you were meant for something else, that this can’t possibly be it. I’m glad I took risks and went looking for it even when others called me crazy, my life is not perfect but I am on the right path.
I’ve struggled with psychosis and BPD for the past couple of years. This scene broke me because of how many times I’ve experienced the feeling Owen portrays. I’ve been thinking about it constantly, thank you for uploading.
me too man. that feeling when reality is crumbling around you and nothing and no one feels real. i feel so alone and it's EXACTLY like this. if your experience is similar, and even if it's not, im so sorry but you aren't alone either. im here with you.
the way he calls for his 'mommy' not his 'mom' hurts me so badly. i so often want to call out for my father, i find myself whispering constantly 'i want my dad' in difficult situations. but hes not there, hes never coming back, that comfort, that safety is never coming back. even if that love didnt fully feel unconditional, i knew he did care for me in ways no one else ever has. those warm safe arms are gone now, the person who would 'ask for me' when things were too scary isnt here to protect me. i have to protect myself, and like owen ive made so many bad 'safe' choices i cant always cope. sometimes all you can do is scream and beg in desperation for those who loved you to try and convey to the other people around you how much pain youre in. 'mommy' 'you need to help me' 'im dying!!!!' this scene made me feel flayed open, it HURT to watch, but it also felt warm afterwards. because someone wrote this, someone else understands.
Imagine working what was supposed to be a quick summer job before college and next thing you know ten years have passed and this is you finally getting out of that mindset
This scene might be one of the most unsettling theatre experiences I've had outside of explicit horror movies. Watching this for the first time made me feel the same way Alien: Romulus did later that year, but for very different reasons
As a filthy cis(/s) who primarily saw the nostalgia metaphor in it, I initially saw this scene as a crushing culmination of how shitty adulthood feels when compared to the simplicity and comfort of our childhoods/the media we watched then and how it can look when one can’t move on from that. Having read a lot about the film since my first viewing and how this film was explicitly meant to be a trans allegory, I saw it again with that lens in mind. This scene still works so extremely well in that context because it’s an accurate representation of how it feels to be societally pressured into living that long in a body you know isn’t yours. Paul Schrader did not call them [Jane] one of the most original voices in film from the last decade for no reason.
I think both ideas are meant to coexist and intertwine. The main point of the movie is to convey the feeling of having lived insincerely/wasted your life by having been pressured to deny the parts of yourself that don't fit the world's idea of reality.
It works both ways. Even as someone who's only connection to the trans experience was through friends who reminded me very much of the characters in the film the writer/director also said that it's also about trying to still carry that magic from art you absorbed from your childhood into adulthood which unfortunately we see fades away from Owen when they re-watch The Pink Opaque and it's nothing like they remember and it's now cheap and bad in their own eyes while having to deal with the responsibility of being an adult now.
I have not forgotten the dread that I felt since the very first time I watched this scene purely because it has made a permanent home inside of my body. This movie made me feel sick and cold. Before I even entered the theater, I was already aware that I had exhausted my life. Yet, somehow, in seeing the fate that I am doomed to, I remembered the feeling of dying once more. This scene killed me another time.
Watching this scene reminded me of a time when I was 16 and broke down in front of my dad, sobbing so hard I couldn’t breathe and just telling him that I was sorry I couldn’t be the person he wanted me to be. I had to call my mom to pick me up. The symbolism of her screaming but no one reacting, seeming like they’re not even there, really resonated with me. Begging for someone to reach out and help you but not wanting to bother anyone, and even if you did bother them they don’t care anyways. It’s as if they’re not even there.
She's been dead a long time, ever since he abandoned his friend on the football field, and he's only know realizing he killed her and starting to mourn, realizing how hollow his life is without her. (And I realise we aren't talking about Maddie here, ftr)
So my headcanon is that this is the moment Owen finally accepts she *is* Isabelle, and the reason she calls out for her mom is because she realises all her memories with her were fake, and she never really existed. Mr Melancholy is an evil bastard. I love this film so much ❤
I don't know how a movie featuring Conner O'Malley, Fred Durst, and both leads from The Adventures of Pete & Pete managed to be one of the most beautifully devastating movies I've ever seen.
I can’t quite explain how much this broke me down. I’m not someone who ever gets emotional through movies. I’m a straight male and I didn’t think a movie about identity would have this much of an impact on me. I can’t express how much I feel like this. To think back of all the things that could of made you happy but was too scared to face it or was taken from you. Knowing I can’t go back to change it, losing those years of happiness. There is nothing you can do but scream in pain. Just hit me in the stomach. Nobody cares, I’m growth man and just have to deal with it. Hide your pain, go about your day. Wishing you could cut the pain out. But you can’t break, ever. Just move forward. Funny to think when i originally clicked on this movie on max I thought it was a horror movie I’d watch while working. Now I’m having a pain attack.
to everyone saying how devastating and soul crushing this is, i agree but i do think the movie’s ending has a hopeful tone. just like the chalk on the road says “there is still time” to me that is the point and take away of this movie. as a queer nonbinary person who came out in 2017 and changed my name in 2020, i can say it is never too late to find your true self and let it free. its not easy by any means but so fucking necessary to live a wonderful fulfilling life. the box cutter scene is that reminder that no matter how hard you try to suppress yourself and hide, there is still goodness and magic and happiness for you inside. pls don’t bury yourself alive.
There was actually supposed to be an additional final scene where Owen finds an exit, giving a hopeful final note. (Source: The /Filmcast describing the director’s Q&A at the premiere.) The scene was cut to maintain a feeling of ambiguity.
If you think of this as being the season 6 premier of The Pink Opaque, it means more episodes are coming. It’s not improbable that she escapes in the next episode, and therefore wraps up the multi-episode story arch that went from the end of Season 5 into the beginning of Season 6.
I had a moment like this at work about a year and a half ago. I never went back. I'm not going back to that 9 to 5 shit because I now know who I really am, and I'm out to be that person no matter what.
i relate this more with my mental health rlly, when im suffering and it feels so obviously a cry for help but no one notices or just ignores it. this scene broke me completely because i fully see myself
Noticing how people in the comments (alongside those in other videos) responding to how they relate to this, I do too but in a different way. Aside from the trans allegory presented in the movie, I think this was more in line with how people cope with the hardships of reality, whether it be daydreaming or watching your favorite TV show. I'm one of those people. No matter how shitty life is, I just honestly don't care. The shows and daydreaming are what's keeping me alive, no matter what Edit: I also wanna add that when I feel like losing my mind, I would just imagine myself being part of this show as it's what I see as perfect and that nobody will judge you for who you are.
No, the creator has already stated what this is. That lesson has been taught a hundred times through other media. Please stop trying to make this anything other than a trans allegory. This is ours, please stop erasing it or replacing it.... it's a trans allegory and nothing more.
@@Xel_games when you share your art publicly you open it up for interpretation. Interpretation that, most of the time, does not align with what you yourself intended to convey in your art. I'm sure Jane, as intelligent and creative as they are, understands this and doesn't care if people interpret their work in different ways, ESPECIALLY if they're as respectful of their intentions in writing the film- to be an allegory for transness- as this commenter was. Individual interpretations shouldn't be suppressed. To say "this means this, nothing else, stop looking for other meaning" goes directly against the idea of art.
@@Xel_games I think that's pretty reductionist and gate-keepy. A movie can be about the dread of a trans person realizing how long they've been denying themselves and thinking they've thrown their life away, while also making non-trans audiences connect in other ways they've felt like they've missed out on life. That's not "removing the Trans allegory", that's... *making a good allegory* by showing people who can't relate to the trans experience what it feels like.
I identify as an enby, although I still struggle to come to terms with it because of how people still identify me as a guy (i.e., calling me in my masculine pronoun and name) and doubting if I really am an enby or that I might be faking it. While I have some of my loved ones and friends who are open-I have told them about my identity though as time go by they seemed to have forgotten it. I don't blame them; but I fear that others might use my gender identity in a negative light or something else. Hence, it's why I nevermind if people misgender me or if I repress my identity
I’m not trans but I do enjoy that in spite of the heavy allegorical trans theme there’s still plenty of other themes you can pick up on that resonate with you, and the one in particular that hit me hardest was time passing you by as you stay miserable. I lost my whole childhood to depression and anxiety and there’s days I realize how time literally watched me rot for several years. I felt this scene to my core. This movie will forever haunt me.
i grew up where this movie was filmed, ive had multiple birthday partys in the same exact party room. i know that funplex (arcade) like the back of my hand. it makes me really question if i saw the tv glow.
I’m a teacher, unhappy with my life right now and extremely scared that I’m going to lose everything. All I love. My parents. My husband. My hair. My teeth. My ability to walk or even my own house. I feel like every single thing about my life is on its final clocks and the reason I feel this way is because I failed to see my mistakes ten years ago. That all the time I thought I was choosing love, or choosing happiness or adventure it was just leading me here. What if this sadness is right where I belong…
You don’t belong in sadness. Don’t live in the past, learn from it. You’re alive right now, live right now. ❤️ I’d love to talk to you more about it if you’d like. Just let me know. I’m here for you.
Looking at the bright side I also feel like everything I love will be taken away from me, so if we both feel it that means its common and it cant be real
I feel like this a lot. I have breakdowns at work pretty often. I just start crying and crying out on the floor or I start hitting myself or bashing my head against the wall. Sometimes I scream but rarely. Then afterwards there's always that retreating, the shrinking inwards, the feeling of shame, trying to make myself small. Watching this movie I just cried and cried and cried from some of the first scenes right until the ending. I feel like Owen all of the time and I hate it.
the small part at the very end that wasn’t shown where he is apologizing about this outburst actually made me feel this overwhelming sense of so many emotions; sympathy, hurt, pity. the way that his voice sounds broken and his demeanor truly made me think about this movie a few days after i watched it. it is a bleak ending which i did not see coming and i understand now how much of a horror it is. it makes me cry to think about that small moment of him apologizing that really really fucked with me.
This movie rwally inspires me to try to live to my most potential. This scene especially got to me when I watched it, and of course feeling super paranoid feeling when he tries to apologize to everyone after the total mental breakdown because you wanted people to understand, or at least scared of what others would think of you and how they would see you after you've revealed a part of you so personal and try to hide from the world...all I'm saying is that this scene was way too relatable to me. And at first when I watched this movie, I really didn't understand. It's such a poetic film.
This scene really struck a chord with me. I’m not trans but I am aroace and it took me a while to accept and embrace that. The whole theme of not stifling oneself or you’ll suffocate to death was horrifying to watch. There were many times in my life where I felt that if I showed my true self I would just be a burden to everyone around me. When Owen says “ignore me” and cries out for his mom absolutely, that crushed me. The line I resonated with the most is when Owen says “whenever I think too hard about it, it’s feels like someone tore out my insides”. I felt that on a personal level. TL;DR, Joan is an incredible director and this movie is a masterpiece
I left my last job because I had a mental breakdown on the way to work one day. Being trans and having to hide it every day genuinely feels like this. I'm out now for the most part but it still feels like this. But this movie feels more hopeful than a lot of people seem to think it is. There is still time. You can be yourself, and it sucks and it hurts and it will make you feel like nothing makes sense but its better than suffocating.
This scene is haunting, but it’s also funny when you consider it from the birthday boy’s perspective. Imagine you’re just chillin with your friends at Chuck E. Cheese and some old dude who works there starts screaming like a banshee for no reason 😂
@@supernovaskies5044they didnt say it was funny they just thought of it in the birthday boy’s perspective. this comment actually made me feel better since ive been crying for who knows how long
@@supernovaskies5044look look i KNOW IT SOUNDS FUCKED UP to laugh but i think if it weren’t for the fact that the scene is portrayed like a nightmare then its funny to imagine that actually happening. Scene still is great tho
no problem, i just saw a bunch of videos using owen's face from this scene and searched it up myself only to find there was no actual videos its also just a really good scene that i wanted to watch again because of how raw it is and thought others might want to aswell
sometimes i feel like i have nothing in my life besides my hope that a God of some sort will help me and my cats. i genuinely just don't want to hurt anymore, i want to be normal, i just want everything to be okay and i don't know how that's going to happen but i just keep praying and holding on to any hope that i can. all this to say i really understand this scene and the *terror* that owen must be feeling, i know it to well.
harsh advice, and i don't know your full situation so feel free to tell me to shut the hell up, but if you're life is really at a spot like this, you might consider giving up the cats. It sounds like they may be causing expenses and time dedication that you simply do not have at this moment. either way, i hope your situation improves and i'm rooting for you. you can get through this. there is always a way through, over, under, or around, even if it means doubling back to do so.
@@supernovaskies5044 i don't really know how to start this but i appreciate your response, it's not just me that takes care of them it's mostly my mom admittedly. but i appreciate your advice anyway. my 18th birthday is tomorrow actually, it's such a weird feeling definitely, i don't know how i'm supposed to be an adult when i feel like i didn't get to be a kid you know? thank you for responding to me and your kind words, even though we're just strangers in a youtube comment section it still means alot to me. i hope all the same for you too if you're in a similar situation. this comment made my day a little lol so thank you once again 🙏
i’m not trans but i am autistic and i feel like this scene could be an autism allegory too, not to take away from the trans narrative. also i have to go through an anesthetic procedure soon, so the ending felt like foreshadowing because i’m nervous of anesthesia.
You'll be awake before you know it, I was scared too when I first had it, but you'll basically blink once and your surgery will be done. Stuff is like time travel I swear.
@@michaelclifford4845 Only time I’ve done anesthesia for my wisdom teeth it was so trippy because they were moving me in the chair I was in as I took it then they took my through a room and suddenly something was in my mouth and they were taking me away saying I did a good job and it was over. It was like literally fast traveling through life
The trans experience of wondering if there was a whole other life to live on the other side; As if you were destined to be someone completely different than who you are. Someone you'll never get to reach...
As harrowing as this scene is; the movie ends with a hopeful note on the sidewalk in chalk. There is still time. Time for Owen to make the changes he needs; maybe this was the breaking point he needed to wake him up. Time for you the viewer, if you resonate or feel this way, there is always still time.
this scene just captures this feeling of horror in a way i’ve never felt for another movie. Not horror in the sense that “oooh i’m sleeping with the lights on!” But horror in the horror of living. i am a cisgender person and i thank my lucky stars i have a full supporting family who would love me if i wasn’t. But this idea that if i had to live an entire life, as someone i hated living as, while completely ignoring the reality in which i could be happy due to outside pressure or fear of regret, is a horrific experience that people really go through. I hope each and every trans person is able to express themselves as they should and never experience this hell. If you think no one loves you, i do.
I can’t relate to the trans aspect of the film because I’m not trans…but the scene hit me because it reminded me of my depression. There’s times where I feel buried alive like I literally can’t breathe and I want to scream just like Owen
At this point, the obvious metaphors for the queer (especially trans) experience was already filling me with dread, especially scenes involving Owen's father. But this is when the film officially broke me. I instantly remembered what it was like to live with my parents, to lie to them and myself every day for years. I remembered how suffocating it was. I'm not necessarily doing too great right now, but I'd rather be broke and tired than have to feel that specific kind of pain ever again.
There are more trans people on this earth than we may ever know. Millions upon millions of wasted years. All because we live in a society that won't let us live as our authentic selves. Spending your whole life apologizing for who you are, hiding your pain.... that's true horror. What an absolutely devastating film.
I watched this last night and I cried for half an hour afterwards. I'm trans, I know I'm trans, I've known for 10 years that I'm a man. but I just......can't do it. I can't bring myself to call to make the appointments for T, or top surgery. I can't bring myself to fill out the paperwork to change my name. I can't do it. it's too much, it's too hard, it's too painful. I know that it's the correct path for me but I just can't fucking do it and I'm so, so worried I'm still going to be just like Owen in another 5 or 10 or 20 years.
I remember going “this movies pretty depressing but I’m not seeing what everyone is talking about.” Then this scene hit. The “mommy” at the end is soul crushing.
Really hard to explain but essentially, the screaming person (Owen) is in some nightmarish universe where they’re a boy living with a transphobic and strict father, their mother had died of illness, their life is entirely uneventful, and all they have to latch onto for comfort in this mundane universe is a TV show known as The Pink Opaque. They find solace in this with a friend named Maddy, and it’s a show about two girls named Isabel and Tara who fight various monsters together who are conjured up by a big bad (so it’s basically like Miraculous Ladybug with Hawk Moth). However the big bad managed to subdue both of them and forced them to live in a realm where nothing is real and they live out miserable existences while their real bodies slowly die from being buried alive. Maddy figures out she’s really Tara and tries to reconnect with her real body and succeeds, but goes back to rescue Owen/Isabel, who is too afraid of the consequences and isn’t really sure if she’s even telling the truth. After her attempts at trying to convince Owen to leave, Owen balks and stays in the nightmarish realm and this outburst is the result of recognizing their real body is still dying and they feel helpless to stop it as everyone around them isn’t even real. It’s mostly a huge allegory about the trans experience, in which Owen feels too scared to leave the closet but is still suffocating in it all the while.
It's not too late and there are many examples of people transitioning even later in life. Look at the upcoming documentary Will & Harper where Will Ferrell and a former head writer for SNL who transitioned at 60 years old go on a road trip. My point being to show a recent popular example of such a phenomenon as later-in-life transitioning.
@@lunarlunar9405 Even without the context, it's so poorly executed that it instantly elicits unintentional laughter...unless you are deliberately ignoring it, that is.
@@lunarlunar9405I don't even know the context, but it's funny in a ironic way because that could perfectly be me one of this days with all the stress and anxiety
just wanted to say, this comment section is a safe space for people apart of the lgbtq community. if i suspect you're being queerphobic in the comment section i will either hide you from the channel or delete your comment. noone should be hated for their own identity. thanks for reading.
Oh brother
@@kazmiller7195 transphobe spotted?
@fantasybabydino 💀💀
The realest part of this was that afterwards Owen has to just resume working as if nothing happened
Exactly. I think thats the reason it hit so hard for me. As well as the total lack of emotion from everyone else. It hit harder than if everyone had reacted or tried to do something.
I think he was leaving, but that might just be me.
@@joshie7651 *she
@@seductiveraven4895*he
owen was only a girl in the pink opaque
@@braindead3287z the whole point of the movie is that she is a trans woman that is too scared to come out or did you not pay attention to the movie. This movie was made by and for trans people, so you're if you're transphobic you're not in the right place. Go to a maga groups and leave us trans woman alone.
That feeling when you've been following a certain path your entire life and it suddenly occurs to you that it was all a huge mistake. All those wasted years that you can never get back.
but as the movie said:
there is still time
Lol so true
wait following a path? I thought this was about dysphoria lol...
This absolutely broke my heart. This is true horror. The desperate slow-moving horror of knowing you've taken the wrong path, knowing that the person you were meant to be is slipping through your fingers. It's almost more awful that, as the sidewalk chalk says, there IS still time. But you're too trapped, too scared to ever change. So everyday you lose that better path, over and over again. Absolutely stunning.
BEAUTIFULLY said. the meaning this scene is something that i've struggled to put into words, and this is exactly what i've been trying to say. you get it.
Easily the most disturbing thing about this scene to me is the fact that everyone just goes blank. No reassurances, no looks, not even a gasp. Everyone is indifferent to his pain and just wants to get on with it. Terrifyingly relevant.
The first time I saw this scene I thought that the indifference was also so that you wouldn't feel discomfort, so that there would only be one main feeling in this scene: despair.
Shit that gave me a whole mushroom flashback. I swear when I eat a whole eighth of shrooms and they finally kicked in this is what happened to my friends. One minute they where hyped then the next nothing just blank like they where NPCs and the matrix was breaking. It freaked me out so I tried to make myself go to sleep than my whole perception of reality just collapsed in on itself. I think it was because I finally feel asleep. The dream was super bizzare I can't really put into words and explain the feelings or what I was experiencing but it was like the universe was telling me *everything* in life is yin and yang.
@@Sleepless420this is what made me really be scared of this scene cuz where he realizes somthing is wrong and freaks out is like when your tripping and you snap out of reality and back in is so so so freaky this scene literally make me so freaked oht lmao
I just assumed Owen was imagining that.
@@themaestro2572I think his imagination exaggerated the extent of their indifference, but their indifference was real.
This scene broke me.
I have too many words and emotions and thoughts jumbled up in my head to be able to express them all articulately through a UA-cam comment but I've screamed these screams a hundred times over in my head and my heart.
I haven't been able to let them out yet but I hope that one day I can and I hope that when I do someone will hear them.
I'm dying here.
I hope you find it in you to let those words out, and to let them out without apology. Because that’s what you deserve ❤️
My stepdad has destoryed my soul. He is just a terrible terrible person- and there were so many times where I just wanted to yell at him- but I always stayed quiet. Always have been quiet- and the rage is building up. Idk how much longer I can keep it in.
It’s not too late 💕🫶🏻
i hear them. i hear them now more than ever. i hear you. 🫶
i cannot describe how many times ive felt like this. this is it for me. "Im dying right now" in a body that is not mine. ive screamed like this too. transitioning is going to save my life.
Cisgender people so often don't understand that gender affirming care is *literally* life saving. It's not something trivial for us. It's the line between life and death, living and giving up. It's the light at the end of the tunnel except it's when we really begin our lives, through the death of our old selves. We have to lay in the grave with the dirt packed in too tight by some burn out kid from the mall, so we can crawl into our new selves and be free
"sorry ignore me I..." And then just more desperate screams. This is an instant classic of queer cinema.
Owen is def neurodivergent and I find it hard to believe other people don’t notice it
@@joshie7651I literally just commented on another video that Owen and Maddy are both coded autistic. Autistic people are statistically 10x more likely to identify as trans/gender nonconforming
@@joshie7651I’m on the spectrum and I definitely got the feeling too, I just didn’t want to assume.
This was one of the saddest scenes in the entire soul crushing movie
It's either this, or right after Owen abandons Maddie for the last time. She barely even looks confused, like she knew deep down he wasn't going to go through with it.
@@MilkyWayGrumpowee ha ha :) ouch my heart
the scream that owen let out is the scream ive been wanting to let out for my entire life. this scene is just so... you can tell its the culmination of everything before it. pure, utter anguish. what a masterful film
My favorite thing about this film is that, while yes, it is very explicitly a trans narrative, and a brilliantly done one at that, the feelings/themes this movie conveys are so universal. This can also apply to feeling like youre stuck in life; like youve wasted so many years; like youve gone down a path you always knew would never be right or true for you. I'm not trans, but this movie struck such a chord in me regardless. I have spent so much of my life trapped in fear because risking it all on a potentially better future is just so scary to me. But sometimes, in order to be true to ourselves, we need to take that leap of faith; we need to peel ourselves open layer by layer, and only by accepting what dwells beneath can we really, truly begin to live.
I see this works as that universal experience but looking from the outside, I'm not sure how this applies to being trans? Are we meant to be thinking that he's not crying about being in a fake environment or a miserable job, or the mismatch between his life and a protagonising experience, but instead just that he's a guy?
@@hyphzthe movie is kinda explicitly and without debate a movie about transness. The trans director has stated as much. That said, I do kinda love that not everyone is able to pick up on it. People are much more open to empathy when they feel they’re able to relate to one another. The universal experience of realizing you have allowed your life and your very self to slip through your fingers is incredibly useful for helping cis people understand that trans people aren’t these weird monsters or whatever that politicians want to pretend we are. We’re going through a struggle that isn’t impossible to understand or empathize with.
@@momolili308 I’m aware of the directors intent. The problem is that it falls into a common trap, of trying to make gender dysphoria more relatable by representing it as general detachment from the world. The problem is, that’s way more common and usually unavoidable. So the message might be meant to be “poor Owen has to do this horrid scary thing in order to be his true self”, but it comes over as “Owen CAN be his true self by doing this scary thing, while most people just never can.” The fact that in the story Owen also gets to be “beautiful and powerful”, AND young again, makes this even worse.
@@hyphz I don’t really see it as a problem. There is overlap between the way that gender dysphoria feels and the vague existential dread of feeling like life passed you by. Hell, oftentimes they go hand in hand. I love that cis people are able to watch the movie and still relate to it because the struggles trans people face are unique but aren’t so unique to be completely detached from things that cis people have dealt with.
@@momolili308 It's a problem because it's easy to feel envy for Owen instead of sympathy. He has a perfect way out, but most people do not. "There is still time" is literally true for him because of the time warp, but not so much for anyone else.
There is no more desperate and horrible feeling than this one. Knowing that you have made so many bad decisions in your life, knowing that it really wasn't your fault, but despite that, you have locked yourself into this shitty life.
It seems like there is no escape, as a phrase from Disco Elysium says "True love is only possible in the next world, for new people. It's too late for us." Because what do you have left in this life?
I would give absolutely everything, my life, my memories, my whole person, absolutely everything to be happy. To be able to live another life in which I can be happy...
Edit: I wrote the correct quote
"True love is only possible in the next world, for new people. It's too late for us" it was something like that hehe
@@palomarivera5475 thank u
Omg disco elysium
Love you Isabel. I hope she'll be okay in the end.
Being an extra in this scene must have been exciting but also so hesrtwrenching. That Mommy alone would have pulled me out of my seat.
It's the apologizing that really hit it home for me; felt like I was watching myself
@@WolfTeen2010I stole this from a Letterboxd review so I can't take credit for it, but I think this deserves to be here:
"Owen never really took a single thing Maddie said to heart, not even when she said to stop apologizing for everything."
@@MilkyWayGrump STOP STOP IM ALREADY DEAD.
@@MilkyWayGrumpexcept by the end (spoilers) he does :( he peels open his heart and sees inside of himself (herself). She sees what Maddy was trying to show her. She goes back to work after that, but nothing will ever be the same. We don't see her transition or if she transitions, or anything after that, but I saw the ending as bittersweet - a very small step in the right direction while still having to live in this bleak world (maybe temporarily? Maybe permanently?)
It was my realization at a young age that a life of regret would lead to something like this, a painful burning feeling that you were meant for something else, that this can’t possibly be it. I’m glad I took risks and went looking for it even when others called me crazy, my life is not perfect but I am on the right path.
I’ve struggled with psychosis and BPD for the past couple of years. This scene broke me because of how many times I’ve experienced the feeling Owen portrays. I’ve been thinking about it constantly, thank you for uploading.
@@Peyton-v9b I hope you get the help you need. I'm so sorry that you have to deal with psychosis and BPD🫂
me too man. that feeling when reality is crumbling around you and nothing and no one feels real. i feel so alone and it's EXACTLY like this. if your experience is similar, and even if it's not, im so sorry but you aren't alone either. im here with you.
the way he calls for his 'mommy' not his 'mom' hurts me so badly. i so often want to call out for my father, i find myself whispering constantly 'i want my dad' in difficult situations. but hes not there, hes never coming back, that comfort, that safety is never coming back. even if that love didnt fully feel unconditional, i knew he did care for me in ways no one else ever has. those warm safe arms are gone now, the person who would 'ask for me' when things were too scary isnt here to protect me. i have to protect myself, and like owen ive made so many bad 'safe' choices i cant always cope. sometimes all you can do is scream and beg in desperation for those who loved you to try and convey to the other people around you how much pain youre in.
'mommy' 'you need to help me' 'im dying!!!!'
this scene made me feel flayed open, it HURT to watch, but it also felt warm afterwards. because someone wrote this, someone else understands.
The feeling of "I want my dad" but I dont actually want my dad cause he sucks, I just want someone that acts like a dad to me
I've had recurring dreams like this for my whole life, or at least as long as I can remember
There is still time.
Imagine working what was supposed to be a quick summer job before college and next thing you know ten years have passed and this is you finally getting out of that mindset
This scene might be one of the most unsettling theatre experiences I've had outside of explicit horror movies. Watching this for the first time made me feel the same way Alien: Romulus did later that year, but for very different reasons
As a filthy cis(/s) who primarily saw the nostalgia metaphor in it, I initially saw this scene as a crushing culmination of how shitty adulthood feels when compared to the simplicity and comfort of our childhoods/the media we watched then and how it can look when one can’t move on from that.
Having read a lot about the film since my first viewing and how this film was explicitly meant to be a trans allegory, I saw it again with that lens in mind. This scene still works so extremely well in that context because it’s an accurate representation of how it feels to be societally pressured into living that long in a body you know isn’t yours.
Paul Schrader did not call them [Jane] one of the most original voices in film from the last decade for no reason.
I think both ideas are meant to coexist and intertwine. The main point of the movie is to convey the feeling of having lived insincerely/wasted your life by having been pressured to deny the parts of yourself that don't fit the world's idea of reality.
Oooooh. My dvmbvss thought all the magic shvt was meant to be real 😂
It works both ways. Even as someone who's only connection to the trans experience was through friends who reminded me very much of the characters in the film the writer/director also said that it's also about trying to still carry that magic from art you absorbed from your childhood into adulthood which unfortunately we see fades away from Owen when they re-watch The Pink Opaque and it's nothing like they remember and it's now cheap and bad in their own eyes while having to deal with the responsibility of being an adult now.
@@RabidDisposition I think in universe the magic stuff is real, the metaphor is moreso just for the viewer
@@xxbennyboygamerxx I hope so. I'm trying to see a sequel where Isabel busts out.
agh this scene makes me feel sick, like i watch a lot of horror movies but this really got under my skin in a way no other film has
I have not forgotten the dread that I felt since the very first time I watched this scene purely because it has made a permanent home inside of my body. This movie made me feel sick and cold. Before I even entered the theater, I was already aware that I had exhausted my life. Yet, somehow, in seeing the fate that I am doomed to, I remembered the feeling of dying once more. This scene killed me another time.
Watching this scene reminded me of a time when I was 16 and broke down in front of my dad, sobbing so hard I couldn’t breathe and just telling him that I was sorry I couldn’t be the person he wanted me to be. I had to call my mom to pick me up. The symbolism of her screaming but no one reacting, seeming like they’re not even there, really resonated with me. Begging for someone to reach out and help you but not wanting to bother anyone, and even if you did bother them they don’t care anyways. It’s as if they’re not even there.
this is one of the most existentially terrifying movies ive ever scene in a way most people would never be able to even fathom
God. She's dying.
Nailed it.
She's been dead a long time, ever since he abandoned his friend on the football field, and he's only know realizing he killed her and starting to mourn, realizing how hollow his life is without her.
(And I realise we aren't talking about Maddie here, ftr)
He
No, she's still alive or he wouldn't be there, time moves differently in both dimensions but once she dies there will no need for prision.
@@iamthewizardwhoknocks2845 this is such a confused answer but it's also not incorrect
Conner O'Malley induced psychotic break
When he’s apologizing at the end and nobody is even looking at him or hears him..,. I can’t 😢
So my headcanon is that this is the moment Owen finally accepts she *is* Isabelle, and the reason she calls out for her mom is because she realises all her memories with her were fake, and she never really existed. Mr Melancholy is an evil bastard. I love this film so much ❤
I don't know how a movie featuring Conner O'Malley, Fred Durst, and both leads from The Adventures of Pete & Pete managed to be one of the most beautifully devastating movies I've ever seen.
I can’t quite explain how much this broke me down. I’m not someone who ever gets emotional through movies. I’m a straight male and I didn’t think a movie about identity would have this much of an impact on me.
I can’t express how much I feel like this. To think back of all the things that could of made you happy but was too scared to face it or was taken from you. Knowing I can’t go back to change it, losing those years of happiness. There is nothing you can do but scream in pain. Just hit me in the stomach. Nobody cares, I’m growth man and just have to deal with it. Hide your pain, go about your day. Wishing you could cut the pain out. But you can’t break, ever. Just move forward.
Funny to think when i originally clicked on this movie on max I thought it was a horror movie I’d watch while working. Now I’m having a pain attack.
to everyone saying how devastating and soul crushing this is, i agree but i do think the movie’s ending has a hopeful tone. just like the chalk on the road says “there is still time” to me that is the point and take away of this movie. as a queer nonbinary person who came out in 2017 and changed my name in 2020, i can say it is never too late to find your true self and let it free. its not easy by any means but so fucking necessary to live a wonderful fulfilling life. the box cutter scene is that reminder that no matter how hard you try to suppress yourself and hide, there is still goodness and magic and happiness for you inside. pls don’t bury yourself alive.
There was actually supposed to be an additional final scene where Owen finds an exit, giving a hopeful final note. (Source: The /Filmcast describing the director’s Q&A at the premiere.) The scene was cut to maintain a feeling of ambiguity.
If you think of this as being the season 6 premier of The Pink Opaque, it means more episodes are coming. It’s not improbable that she escapes in the next episode, and therefore wraps up the multi-episode story arch that went from the end of Season 5 into the beginning of Season 6.
I had a moment like this at work about a year and a half ago. I never went back. I'm not going back to that 9 to 5 shit because I now know who I really am, and I'm out to be that person no matter what.
this is how it feels
i relate this more with my mental health rlly, when im suffering and it feels so obviously a cry for help but no one notices or just ignores it. this scene broke me completely because i fully see myself
The moment you realize time was moving too quickly
Noticing how people in the comments (alongside those in other videos) responding to how they relate to this, I do too but in a different way.
Aside from the trans allegory presented in the movie, I think this was more in line with how people cope with the hardships of reality, whether it be daydreaming or watching your favorite TV show.
I'm one of those people. No matter how shitty life is, I just honestly don't care. The shows and daydreaming are what's keeping me alive, no matter what
Edit: I also wanna add that when I feel like losing my mind, I would just imagine myself being part of this show as it's what I see as perfect and that nobody will judge you for who you are.
No, the creator has already stated what this is. That lesson has been taught a hundred times through other media. Please stop trying to make this anything other than a trans allegory. This is ours, please stop erasing it or replacing it.... it's a trans allegory and nothing more.
You can not relate to this if you are not trans, it's not FOR you.
@@Xel_games when you share your art publicly you open it up for interpretation. Interpretation that, most of the time, does not align with what you yourself intended to convey in your art. I'm sure Jane, as intelligent and creative as they are, understands this and doesn't care if people interpret their work in different ways, ESPECIALLY if they're as respectful of their intentions in writing the film- to be an allegory for transness- as this commenter was. Individual interpretations shouldn't be suppressed. To say "this means this, nothing else, stop looking for other meaning" goes directly against the idea of art.
@@Xel_games I think that's pretty reductionist and gate-keepy. A movie can be about the dread of a trans person realizing how long they've been denying themselves and thinking they've thrown their life away, while also making non-trans audiences connect in other ways they've felt like they've missed out on life. That's not "removing the Trans allegory", that's... *making a good allegory* by showing people who can't relate to the trans experience what it feels like.
I identify as an enby, although I still struggle to come to terms with it because of how people still identify me as a guy (i.e., calling me in my masculine pronoun and name) and doubting if I really am an enby or that I might be faking it.
While I have some of my loved ones and friends who are open-I have told them about my identity though as time go by they seemed to have forgotten it. I don't blame them; but I fear that others might use my gender identity in a negative light or something else. Hence, it's why I nevermind if people misgender me or if I repress my identity
I’m not trans but I do enjoy that in spite of the heavy allegorical trans theme there’s still plenty of other themes you can pick up on that resonate with you, and the one in particular that hit me hardest was time passing you by as you stay miserable. I lost my whole childhood to depression and anxiety and there’s days I realize how time literally watched me rot for several years. I felt this scene to my core. This movie will forever haunt me.
i grew up where this movie was filmed, ive had multiple birthday partys in the same exact party room. i know that funplex (arcade) like the back of my hand. it makes me really question if i saw the tv glow.
I’m a teacher, unhappy with my life right now and extremely scared that I’m going to lose everything. All I love. My parents. My husband. My hair. My teeth. My ability to walk or even my own house. I feel like every single thing about my life is on its final clocks and the reason I feel this way is because I failed to see my mistakes ten years ago. That all the time I thought I was choosing love, or choosing happiness or adventure it was just leading me here. What if this sadness is right where I belong…
I don’t think anyone belongs in sadness, as comforting as it can seem sometimes. There is still time
You don’t belong in sadness. Don’t live in the past, learn from it. You’re alive right now, live right now. ❤️ I’d love to talk to you more about it if you’d like. Just let me know. I’m here for you.
Looking at the bright side I also feel like everything I love will be taken away from me, so if we both feel it that means its common and it cant be real
“Sorry, ignore me…”
Dude that line hurts 🥺
the guy singing looks like he knows a thing or two about where to find the best pulled pork in the wisconsin dells.
stop i know this reference 😭
he also looks like he knows how to do the perfect egg bite
I feel like this a lot. I have breakdowns at work pretty often. I just start crying and crying out on the floor or I start hitting myself or bashing my head against the wall. Sometimes I scream but rarely. Then afterwards there's always that retreating, the shrinking inwards, the feeling of shame, trying to make myself small. Watching this movie I just cried and cried and cried from some of the first scenes right until the ending. I feel like Owen all of the time and I hate it.
This was gut wrenching.
And the end where he's just apologizing just broke me.
"I screamed as loud as I could for help. I apologized for the whole thing." - Maddie/Tara
conner o'malley is perfect casting for this type of energy, dude needs his own horror movie
I just saw this for the first time and its haunting me. I cant get it out of my head.
I dont know what to do anymore.
the small part at the very end that wasn’t shown where he is apologizing about this outburst actually made me feel this overwhelming sense of so many emotions; sympathy, hurt, pity. the way that his voice sounds broken and his demeanor truly made me think about this movie a few days after i watched it. it is a bleak ending which i did not see coming and i understand now how much of a horror it is. it makes me cry to think about that small moment of him apologizing that really really fucked with me.
This movie rwally inspires me to try to live to my most potential. This scene especially got to me when I watched it, and of course feeling super paranoid feeling when he tries to apologize to everyone after the total mental breakdown because you wanted people to understand, or at least scared of what others would think of you and how they would see you after you've revealed a part of you so personal and try to hide from the world...all I'm saying is that this scene was way too relatable to me. And at first when I watched this movie, I really didn't understand. It's such a poetic film.
This scene really struck a chord with me. I’m not trans but I am aroace and it took me a while to accept and embrace that. The whole theme of not stifling oneself or you’ll suffocate to death was horrifying to watch. There were many times in my life where I felt that if I showed my true self I would just be a burden to everyone around me. When Owen says “ignore me” and cries out for his mom absolutely, that crushed me. The line I resonated with the most is when Owen says “whenever I think too hard about it, it’s feels like someone tore out my insides”. I felt that on a personal level. TL;DR, Joan is an incredible director and this movie is a masterpiece
This film feels so surreal and just..i just relate too much and it disturbs me
I left my last job because I had a mental breakdown on the way to work one day. Being trans and having to hide it every day genuinely feels like this. I'm out now for the most part but it still feels like this. But this movie feels more hopeful than a lot of people seem to think it is. There is still time. You can be yourself, and it sucks and it hurts and it will make you feel like nothing makes sense but its better than suffocating.
This scene is haunting, but it’s also funny when you consider it from the birthday boy’s perspective. Imagine you’re just chillin with your friends at Chuck E. Cheese and some old dude who works there starts screaming like a banshee for no reason 😂
that's funny? ur... interesting for sureeee
@@supernovaskies5044they didnt say it was funny they just thought of it in the birthday boy’s perspective. this comment actually made me feel better since ive been crying for who knows how long
@@supernovaskies5044look look i KNOW IT SOUNDS FUCKED UP to laugh but i think if it weren’t for the fact that the scene is portrayed like a nightmare then its funny to imagine that actually happening. Scene still is great tho
@@kiro1547 i would be so fucking confused
The most scared I've been by a scene of a movie in years. Just nothing but PURE undistilled DREAD
Thanks for posting 💯
no problem, i just saw a bunch of videos using owen's face from this scene and searched it up myself only to find there was no actual videos
its also just a really good scene that i wanted to watch again because of how raw it is and thought others might want to aswell
Whenever I watch this scene my chest gets tight
sometimes i feel like i have nothing in my life besides my hope that a God of some sort will help me and my cats. i genuinely just don't want to hurt anymore, i want to be normal, i just want everything to be okay and i don't know how that's going to happen but i just keep praying and holding on to any hope that i can. all this to say i really understand this scene and the *terror* that owen must be feeling, i know it to well.
harsh advice, and i don't know your full situation so feel free to tell me to shut the hell up, but if you're life is really at a spot like this, you might consider giving up the cats. It sounds like they may be causing expenses and time dedication that you simply do not have at this moment. either way, i hope your situation improves and i'm rooting for you. you can get through this. there is always a way through, over, under, or around, even if it means doubling back to do so.
@@supernovaskies5044 i don't really know how to start this but i appreciate your response, it's not just me that takes care of them it's mostly my mom admittedly. but i appreciate your advice anyway. my 18th birthday is tomorrow actually, it's such a weird feeling definitely, i don't know how i'm supposed to be an adult when i feel like i didn't get to be a kid you know? thank you for responding to me and your kind words, even though we're just strangers in a youtube comment section it still means alot to me. i hope all the same for you too if you're in a similar situation. this comment made my day a little lol so thank you once again 🙏
i’m not trans but i am autistic and i feel like this scene could be an autism allegory too, not to take away from the trans narrative.
also i have to go through an anesthetic procedure soon, so the ending felt like foreshadowing because i’m nervous of anesthesia.
You'll be awake before you know it, I was scared too when I first had it, but you'll basically blink once and your surgery will be done. Stuff is like time travel I swear.
@@michaelclifford4845 Only time I’ve done anesthesia for my wisdom teeth it was so trippy because they were moving me in the chair I was in as I took it then they took my through a room and suddenly something was in my mouth and they were taking me away saying I did a good job and it was over. It was like literally fast traveling through life
The trans experience of wondering if there was a whole other life to live on the other side; As if you were destined to be someone completely different than who you are. Someone you'll never get to reach...
As harrowing as this scene is; the movie ends with a hopeful note on the sidewalk in chalk. There is still time. Time for Owen to make the changes he needs; maybe this was the breaking point he needed to wake him up. Time for you the viewer, if you resonate or feel this way, there is always still time.
this scene just captures this feeling of horror in a way i’ve never felt for another movie. Not horror in the sense that “oooh i’m sleeping with the lights on!” But horror in the horror of living. i am a cisgender person and i thank my lucky stars i have a full supporting family who would love me if i wasn’t. But this idea that if i had to live an entire life, as someone i hated living as, while completely ignoring the reality in which i could be happy due to outside pressure or fear of regret, is a horrific experience that people really go through. I hope each and every trans person is able to express themselves as they should and never experience this hell. If you think no one loves you, i do.
I don’t think a movie made me this uncomfortable and hope for any kind of catharsis in a while. I really loved it.
Same girl same
God this gutted me. Legit cried on the spot...
I can’t relate to the trans aspect of the film because I’m not trans…but the scene hit me because it reminded me of my depression. There’s times where I feel buried alive like I literally can’t breathe and I want to scream just like Owen
This is how imagine hell would be.
At this point, the obvious metaphors for the queer (especially trans) experience was already filling me with dread, especially scenes involving Owen's father. But this is when the film officially broke me. I instantly remembered what it was like to live with my parents, to lie to them and myself every day for years. I remembered how suffocating it was. I'm not necessarily doing too great right now, but I'd rather be broke and tired than have to feel that specific kind of pain ever again.
This is the first time I've seen justice smith act
I understand her
omg i it’s connor o’malley
“Mommy!!!”
😢
damn good acting
I'm dying here.
Yeah...
Retail PSA
DONT DO IT
There are more trans people on this earth than we may ever know. Millions upon millions of wasted years. All because we live in a society that won't let us live as our authentic selves. Spending your whole life apologizing for who you are, hiding your pain.... that's true horror. What an absolutely devastating film.
Ok but were just gonna ignore the fact that his scream sounded like benson from regular show lol
God I relate hard
too real
Damn…Anyone around here poppin off on minionsquad?
I watched this last night and I cried for half an hour afterwards. I'm trans, I know I'm trans, I've known for 10 years that I'm a man. but I just......can't do it. I can't bring myself to call to make the appointments for T, or top surgery. I can't bring myself to fill out the paperwork to change my name. I can't do it. it's too much, it's too hard, it's too painful. I know that it's the correct path for me but I just can't fucking do it and I'm so, so worried I'm still going to be just like Owen in another 5 or 10 or 20 years.
Connor kind of takes me out of this lol but still a great film
who
i got a 103 fever for the past 6 months and it aint going down, Drake if you dont give me medical attention im gonna get a big ass frown
I remember going “this movies pretty depressing but I’m not seeing what everyone is talking about.” Then this scene hit. The “mommy” at the end is soul crushing.
What was the meaning of this scene
Mood
Felt
I’ve never watched the movie. What’s happening?
Watch it jus watch it
The scene evwr
Me when there no… za?
I don’t understand this scene. What the hell is happening
Really hard to explain but essentially, the screaming person (Owen) is in some nightmarish universe where they’re a boy living with a transphobic and strict father, their mother had died of illness, their life is entirely uneventful, and all they have to latch onto for comfort in this mundane universe is a TV show known as The Pink Opaque. They find solace in this with a friend named Maddy, and it’s a show about two girls named Isabel and Tara who fight various monsters together who are conjured up by a big bad (so it’s basically like Miraculous Ladybug with Hawk Moth). However the big bad managed to subdue both of them and forced them to live in a realm where nothing is real and they live out miserable existences while their real bodies slowly die from being buried alive. Maddy figures out she’s really Tara and tries to reconnect with her real body and succeeds, but goes back to rescue Owen/Isabel, who is too afraid of the consequences and isn’t really sure if she’s even telling the truth. After her attempts at trying to convince Owen to leave, Owen balks and stays in the nightmarish realm and this outburst is the result of recognizing their real body is still dying and they feel helpless to stop it as everyone around them isn’t even real. It’s mostly a huge allegory about the trans experience, in which Owen feels too scared to leave the closet but is still suffocating in it all the while.
type shit im on with 700mg dph lmao 😂💯👌
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This is me as an American watching Trump win, once again...
This was me when it happened so yeah, sucks
Let me out of here.
Looks like a beautifully made trans allegory movie. 10/10 never watching this
Bro sounds like pops from regular show
Dude thought he was the main character for a moment
vro.... they literally are......
its too late. if this scene scares you, its because its too late.
It’s really not though? The movie is a trans allegory, you can still transition and be happy even if you “wasted” your time
I thought one of the main points of the movie is that there is still time?
it's never too late
It's not too late and there are many examples of people transitioning even later in life. Look at the upcoming documentary Will & Harper where Will Ferrell and a former head writer for SNL who transitioned at 60 years old go on a road trip. My point being to show a recent popular example of such a phenomenon as later-in-life transitioning.
@@reesefisher9641 I’m kind of stunned the person who wrote the comment didn’t get that
This shit mad corny. And I’m an A24 fan
This looks like a good comedy
not a comedy actually. the flim is a psychological horror drama. i can admit its funny without context though just a bit
@@lunarlunar9405 it reminds me of The Office
@@lunarlunar9405 Even without the context, it's so poorly executed that it instantly elicits unintentional laughter...unless you are deliberately ignoring it, that is.
@@lunarlunar9405I don't even know the context, but it's funny in a ironic way because that could perfectly be me one of this days with all the stress and anxiety
The context makes it horrifying, not funny.