“The key is inside the center of your heart. All you have to do is remove your heart and grab the key before the time is up or your chest will explode.” Type of stuff they were on 💀
"Look officer, I killed no one. He did it himself, I just simply tied him to a safe, and required him to eat all of his own intestines in 10 seconds or be ejected out of a plane to fall to his death. He DECIDED not to eat all of his intestines."
“For this trap You’ll have to break every single Finger, toe, and limb you have. You then have to solve a 5x5 rubiks Cube. You have 2 seconds. Good luck”
The trap I personally hated the most (and not talking survival odds here), was Amanda's trap in the very first Saw. Every trap (not talking about the rigged aspect here), was designed, at the very least, to give the captee a chance at escaping at personal cost/pain. But Amanda's trap had her cut open another person (who was supposed to be dead too). Not once did she have to make a personal sacrifice, something Jigsaw prides himself on when designing his traps.
yep and that’s why i didn’t felt as much empathy for Amanda bc she just killed someone else, I mean that’s really fucked up and not an easy thing to do, but it’s so much easier to hurt someone else instead of hurting yourself because when u hurt urself your brain literaly stop u from doing so which is why it’s so difficult and why so many people die in Saw because they waste time panicking
@@PlusUltraAdrian exactly. which is the vast majority of people would rather do/be more capable of doing than mutilating themselves. Especially if you believe the other person to already be dead anyway.
Fun fact: If I remember correctly the door to the classroom in the classroom trap was welded shut so even if the poor guy somehow tore his jaw off and lived, he couldn't leave the room. It was literally unbeatable. Also the angel trap was unbeatable.
After the 2nd movie, John Kramer was no longer constructing the traps. It was actually pointed out that Amanda's traps were unbeatable and John didn't approve of that. Once he died, it spiraled out of control and became more about killing and torturing than it was about teaching someone to value their lives which was John's whole philosophy behind why he did what he did. By the end, the one before the stupid reboot or Jigsaw movie, it came full circle that he used the doctor from the first movie to make sure the ones that killed unnecessarily and in John's name, were stopped and paid the price for misrepresenting his vision
That's only mostly true. While Hoffman and Amanda had their share of unbeatable traps most of what you see was planned and at least partly made by John.
No one ever talks about those traps where it’s a 1v1 and only one person can survive. That’s straight up murder because no matter what, one person will die.
@@redpanda6134 Under threat of death, by Jigsaw. If I put a gun to someone's head and go "Kill that guy" and they kill that guy to avoid getting shot, it would be me being put on the line for murder.
The Classroom Trap was set up by Amanda. It's noted by the detectives that arrive that even if the victim were to somehow rip the hook out of his jaw without killing himself and still be able to walk with all of the trauma and blood loss he'd suffered, all of the exits were either barred or welded shut. He had no way out.
It was never escapable but was possibly survivable. It depends how long the detectives took to get there after the trap. If he ripped out the chains a bit faster then he could've been able to disable, move or at least minimize the blast of the bomb. He could've dragged tables and chairs over, smashed the jar so the nails went everywhere and dragged a table over for a shield. I don't remember how long after the trap the detectives arrived but if he had done that, he could've survived but been taken to hospital. If it was too long he would've died of blood loss or possibly from infection if he made it to hospital, the classroom wasn't exactly clean. However, this all assumes that he thought perfectly rationally and worked quickly through the fear and pain. It would be nearly impossible unless the person in it was extremely intelligent. John probably could have freed himself but he would know how those bombs work, would know quite a bit about anatomy, and would know to keep calm and prioritize. This man stood no chance.
@@shantasiahaynes4490 Saw's voice also was used for Detective Kerry's trap. I can't quite remember if it was Amanda or Hoffman who made those traps, probably Hoffman, but they both used John's saw voice. We know that those traps weren't made by Kramer though because even if you succeeded, you would still die. John was even mad at both Amanda and Hoffman for making unbeatable traps.
The funny thing is there was a freshly dead corpse in the other room. They could’ve dragged it and take them blood out of it for the 10 pints of blood trap. But no just cut our hands open for no reason
The classroom trap is 100% unbeatable, and is set up by Amanda Young. John Kramer played a game with Amanda in Saw III for making unbeatable traps, such as the classroom one, because even if you ripped out your jaw and lived, the door was welded shut.
@@idotso yeah, like, John kramer is a human, he aint fucking god, he isnt perfect, someone outsmarting him is def possible, there are also videos out there where people can explain how to outsmart jigsaw's traps.
@@nash2935you break the bomb and then what? Even if you somehow managed to get the chain out of your jaw without riping your jaw off how will you escape the classroom you will just die of starvation or dehydration
Had to have one removed like 12 years ago, by a profesional, shit was so hard and well put that it took him 3 hours of cutting, hitting and pulling all while my mouth could feel nothing... So yeah, unless they were already falling from that guy's mouth it aint that easy.
exactly what i fucking thought like even front teeth even with any type of numbing agent or anethestic to help if you could do so yourself would still take an agonizing ammount of time to remove even if your being forceful as possible let alone your wisdom teeth without any type of way to deal with the pain this trap is straight up impossible
This trap was stupid. What if the guy had his roots really tangled up in there? There wouldn't have been anyway to get it out. Furthermore what if his teeth weren't fully grown in yet? How was he supposed to be able to fit the tool around the tooth. Lastly, the mouth would have been too small to even pull it out. Where could you even pull? If he tried it there is a good chance that he couldn't get the tooth out because his mouth was too small to fit the tool in there and pulling it up.
@@ragerasse7616 true and this is sadly still only a tenth of the reasons this design was terrible even if you could be put under and somehow still operate on yourself unconcious without pain it would still take ages and thats the best impossible scenario as ripping out even front teeth let alone a wisdom tooth is a lot harder then most people give credit but at least to be fair you could tell he used ones that were fully set so at least thats on the table i guess
In a realistic scenario, all traps with a few minutes or less timer in this franchise would end in the victim dying while still processing the situation, without doing anything towards freeing themselves. Hell, the objective could be: "Tell me your birthday" with a 60 second timer, and chances are the shock of waking up in the nightmare and the inevitable mental side effects of being unconscious would still make the victim fail.
That was kinda my favorite thing about Saw 3D. Bobby knew he needed all the time in the world for these traps and he would start trying to solve them before the time was up.
That was my thing, too. Even for something like Amanda in the reverse-bear trap. She has to stab a guy to death and root through his organs to find a key, then use that slippery key on a lock that she can't see. All in...2 minutes? With only a (looks like) no. 3 scalpel? As someone who has dissected more than a few cadavers, I'm calling bullshit on that. There's fascia and muscle, loads of fluids, and it looks like she gets the key out of the mesentary, which is the connective tissue between organs that old them in place. So she had to really get in there. I might be able to do it in 2 minutes if I knew exactly where to look. But I don't think Amanda had any knowledge or experience of human dissection.
i feel like the time should be much longer lmao ain't no way i can mutilate my body in a few minutes, imma need several days to get the strength (and i probably wouldn't even do it in the end)
Jigsaw is like that math teacher who will give you the most hardest math question you've ever seen but, when ask him honestly if he knows the answer he will just say, "To be honest? I actually don't know how to solve it."
I think he's more like one of those teachers that has no idea what theyre talking about, everyone can tell they don't know, but when confronted about it will say "who's the teacher here?" I had a English teacher who's spelling was abysmal, but she would always insist her spelling must be correct as she's a qualified English teacher.
note, jigsaw is the type of teacher, who gives you an impossible question and enjoys as you suffer through attempting to answer it in front of the class and then, when you can’t instead of answering the question because they don’t actually have an answer, they just smugly monologue about how if you had listen in class you have the answer to a question he is never taught and has no bearing on the education you are trying to get. Amanda young will give you the worlds hardest to solve impossible question and when you can’t answer it, kick you out the classroom give you detention for the rest of the day and then go to the principal and ask for your expulsion, knowing that that’s gonna get you kicked out of the country. Jigsaw has a narcissistic ego. Amanda became a full-blown psychopath.
What I think is the worst part about the needle pit is that the needles are used, which means that the ends are bent. These bent tips tear skin super easily going in and especially coming out.
yeah I don't know why they didn't just use the blankets like nets and just start pulling them out of the pit bit by bit. no one needed to even go in. just drag a blanket over the needles and lift it up see if one of them snagged the one they need and shake the rest off in a corner of the room or something and try again. if all of them are doing it they probably could of emptied the pit pretty quickly. the needles could of easily got stuck in the blankets and lifted away from the rest of the needles in the pit.
@@jaythewolf7216 the key point of the traps in this movie is that all of them were escapable if they could get past themselves and work together as a team since they were all in there because of their self centeredness
@@jaythewolf7216 They had a time limit, no way in heck were they going to be able to do what you described (which had they not had a time limit would have been a good idea.)
The Flammable Jelly is technically survivable, but Jigsaw doesn’t give enough info to figure it out. You’re meant to blow out the candle, as the actual code is written in glow-in-the-dark paint. You can then relight the candle with matches in the room to actually input the code.
Easy in concept but wouldn't be in practice. Holding the candle is much safer than relighting it because of how much closer his hand would be to the matchbox. A single spark from lighting the match is all it would take to kill you.
"You must get the McDonald's icecream within an hour, or you will explode as I have planted an explosive device into your brain. Live or die, it's your choice." *goofy ahh laugh*
John Kramer: "I'm not a murderer, murder is bad." Also John: "There is a knife inside of your spine and the only way to get it out is to disconnect your brainstem"
His entire philosophy makes sense but the way it goes it’s realistically not possible for people to survive a lot of most of these traps. It’s like sacrifice your spine to be permanently paralyzed and mentally immobile….. or you die digging into your stomach to remove a key deep in your stomach.
Fun fact! Some of the traps were actually functional, that's why the reactions from the actors tend to be so realistic. Of course, they don't go to this extent but still. For example, the trap in Saw 3 with the twisting limbs, near the end? Yeah the machine actually did twist the actor's limbs, but stopped at a point to so he wouldn't be in pain. And the reverse beartrap also worked, not while it was on the actor's head, but by itself it does pop open as shown in the movie
@@mylilcupcake821 Wait, so that trap even while filming could have brutally killed the actor if the trap was rigged or accidentally started earlier? Or did it just not have enough force to crush a human's head?
They actually took the most EXTENSIVE measures to make this as safe as possible for the actors. It's what made these movies a bit more bearable for me. The behind the scenes clips look like a fun time. Anything that was more realistic or dangerous or stressful came with double, triple, quadruple checking for safety and wellness of the actors. They were ready to pull the plug at any moment. It's even better knowing these movies did not come at the expense of the actors yet still had the psychotic effect on the viewer
Is everyone forgetting the biggest part of all about the chains trap: The door was welded shut. Even if he did manage to pull his chains out in time by some miracle, he'd have 0 chances of escape. Everything around the room had been barricaded by tables and chairs, so no escaping through the windows, simply throwing the bomb away or having enough strength to surround yourself with enough tables to survive such a blast. Theoretically speaking, even if he tried breaking the glass jar and throwing the bomb into a corner of the room AND hid behind enough cover, he'd still die from sheer blood loss before anyone could cut through the door in time. *This trap was impossible and rigged from the start, just like all the rest that were left off the list.*
@@lovesdbdkiller That's exactly what I was thinking. I think this was mostly Amanda due to the poor construction of it all and Hoffman since John wouldn't be strong enough to move all those desks. I don't know why HS thinks John would've had a part in this one.
@@redtailedhawkdude The guy who killed Hoffmans sister was in the pendulum trap (Saw V i think) and it was a Hoffman trap and it was impossible to survive.
Amanda set up Adam's trap too. She threw the key randomly and caused it to go down the drain. Amanda kept setting up unwinnable games like Kerry's angel trap and of course the classroom with the door welded shut. I think in the first trap, Adam was supposed to be able to free roam the bathroom, but Amanda obviously threw a wrench in that with the key...
You find out in I think saw 4 Amanda was cheating the players and not giving them a far chance because she thought what's the point they won't change they will just do the same thing
"My doctor had a shitty beside manner, that's why you, a person with an addiction problem that has never met me, has been kidnapped. And now have to prove to me you want to live (not that you were suicidal but just didn't have the zest for life I think you should have) by crippling yourself in an incredibly painful way. Btw I'm not responsible." J.Kramer
At first, Jigsaw had good reasons for wanting to put people in these traps, but as the series/torture goes on, he just turned completely delusional lol
Jigsaw: "my traps are beatable" The trap: "all you have to do it's a lobotomy reaching the center of your brain, pick the key inside it, unlock the bomb inside your heart, then put a combination of 23 numbers on the lock to make the door open. You have 0,0005 seconds for this. Live or die, make your choice"
Love the movies, but kid napping people and putting them in life threatening situations where survival is possible if played correctly is still murder. It always bugs me when John says he never murdered anyone.
"You have to slice your artery to find the key I hid in your nutsack, you have 45 seconds before the poison I injected in your neck kills you" *dies of blood loss* "I didnt murder him, he chose it"
Most of the unbeatable traps were set by Hoffman and Amanda. John Kramer wanted people to have the chance to escape. So any of these unbeatable traps weren’t him unless they were personal.
Most of his traps needed "movie magic" for them to survive the injuries, had two individuals with unequal chances of living a trap, or even not making the person in the trap make a personal sacrifice.
I honestly feel like the inclusion of Amanda and Hoffman was for this very purpose: so now whenever someone goes: "that trap is unwinnable!" The writers can just blame it on one of these two
_“I’ve never murdered anyone in my life”_ *Murders a couple SWAT officers by electrocuting them when they attempted to go up a flight of stairs to get to Jigsaw*
Its actually not, it is really one of the easier ones in the series. the numbers for the safe are written larger than the other numbers and backwards, so its not as hard as most people think. Saw needed to explain that better I think. edit: I would like to apologize I was wrong about that, but I did find the solution I think. The numbers needed are not in the same pattern as the others. for example the 8 you can find in this clip ua-cam.com/video/aD67ZUShE0Y/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ItWasYourTest at 1:06 so just find the numbers that break sequence.
@@plattbagarn I believe it was actually intended for him to be claiming disability checks when he wasn't disabled not just playing hooky, but your point still stands pretty much like. Dude just report him for disability fraud. You don't need to put these people in traps. Put people who are actively severely hurting others but evading/working around the law in these traps, maybe?? This dude is just kinda a piece of shit but you can report him. Or maybe he is actually disabled and its an invisible disability, man. You can't possibly know someone's whole life story. He could be legitimately disabled and its just not obvious.
@@thesayerofthelaw In that situation though, nobody would stand a chance. Walking on broken glass barefoot pitch darkness it’s a very hard game. Definitely not as straightforward as Amandas.
Jigsaw:"You did something bad so if you survive my almost unbeatable trap, you'll appreciate and enjoy life more" Surviors with trauma, PTSD, panic attacks and anxiety:👍
Oh remember if you have mental illness like depression, that gets you put into a trap as well. Like the nurse at the in saw 3. Took antidepressants which means in jigsaws world, you don’t appreciate life
@@ComicWriter-ml3qt seems fair. Why use chemical pills in order to fake enjoying life, when Jigsaw can torture you for free and hammer in a moral about enjoying your life more?
John Kramer: "Everybody deserves a chance!!" All the people in Bobby's test in Saw 7, all of William's coworkers in Saw 6, the people involved in the car accident in Jeff's game in Saw 3 and many more: "Hold up...!!"
@Very Kinky QoS Goth You're thinking of the Chain Reaction trap in Saw 3D; the car accident in Jeff's game refers to those involved in the accident that killed Jeff's son.
They all technically did have a chance - unfortunately, said chance was reliant on others (e.g. Amanda's cellmate's chance of survival was if she didn't cut the key out of his stomach)
What I'd love to see would be a "Jigsaw, the Failure" movie, where every single one of his victims does the most likely: Fade out, when the pain starts to grow strong. Or completely loses the mind in a panic attack. Or ruins survival-essential parts of the trap by puking on it. Reactions, that would make Jigsaw seriously question his talent for predicting human behaviour.
Not a perfect example, but that sort of happened in Jigsaw with the guy that didn't wake up with everyone else. There were a lot of traps triggered by people freaking out and usually the dead bodies were found eventually, so it seems like some of them so long as you just didn't move you might not even start a test. But I would probably flail about too haha
@@stevejenks9940 Then how about this: "Ha! Jigsaw, you idiot. Didn't you know? I'm suicidal. I just didn't have the guts to get it done. So thank you! Now all I need to do, is to lean back and wait.".
I would get to the 10 pints trap and be like nope, not in the slightest, nope, and then put my head next to one of the bombs so at least my death is instantaneous
Bruh, I think most people would rather die than do this shit. I'll wait to explode I don't give a damn. The thing is, why would I want unbearable pain when I can have sweet nothingness? (Plus I won't have to pay taxes anymore so Jigsaw kinda doing me a solid ngl)
With the bedroom trap, I think the easiest way to get through it was to hit both triggers at the same time, taking out both the eyes at the same time so the pain isn’t extended more than it has to be
For the flammable jelly trap, I think the reason it is so difficult is that Kramer himself suffers from cancer and knows how painful being that I’ll truly is. So because the guy in the trap fakes being ill, Kramer would naturally be resentful of him, to the point his standard procedure of making his traps winnable is thrown to the side in favor of his own sense of justice.
Yeah, tbh I would probably try all the combinations, keep the candle far away from me and try not to move. Save more energy for my body to fight the poison. Less risk of being cut on glass and the obvious less risk of being burned alive.
@@rav0nn trying all of those combinations within the duration the universe has lest to live is impossible, there are at least 1000 numbers in that room, and assuming that the length of the lock is 6 inputs, you would die of hunger before you could get through 0.1% of all the possible combinations.
I agree with you, I just wanted to add that this is another point in the column of John being a giant hypocrite who often doesn't follow the rules of his own games. I think this is really firmly established in the first movie when Adam not only wins his game, he expresses an intense desire to live, but he's still left to die anyway. That's because the game was meant for Lawrence and John doesn't actually care what happens to the incidental players (Allison, Diana, Zepp, Tapp, and Adam) as long as his original target plays the game "properly".
I hate the fact that Jigsaw gave Amanda one of the easiest traps where she didn't even have to harm herself. But when it's her turn to be Jigsaw, she has the absolute nerve to rig the traps to be unbeatable. If surviving her test actually rehabilitated her, why did she think the same thing wouldn't happen to her victims?
She was manipulated so much by John and really wanted to be like him, but she still felt like she didn't deserve the "redemption" she got, so she kinda projected onto her victims by believing that they don't deserve a second chance and should die. She really was just horribly mentally ill, not that I'm excusing her actions but that's why she did it
The trap that bothered me most is one from saw 3D, the brazen bull one. The entire point of it was that the trap was unbeatable, given that he lied about surviving the same trap and that his pectoral muscles couldn't support his weight, even John basically tells him that in the audio. So he was deemed to fail and his girlfriend be burned alive. She was the only innocent person there, the only one who knew nothing about him being a fraud. So this was an execution of an innocent person to teach that guy a lesson? John designed this trap and chose the victims so it definitely went against his ''I never killed enyone'' , ''murder is disgusting to me''. Unless he cheated it was unbeatable and how was he supposed to know by cheating he won't activate the brazen bull. I don't get why that woman had to die in such a horrible way when she didn't wrong anybody.
That is kind of the point with John's character. He's a hypocrite. He's so convinced in his own crazy idea of "rehabilitation" that he can't even admit when his methods are killing innocents. He doesn't think of himself as a murderer just because he technically is not the one holding the weapon.
@@nexusshark That ties perfectly into the whole mindset of "I didn't murder anyone, I just pressed a button because I was told to do it" scheme. I think it's really interesting to talk about whether that makes someone a murderer or not. Personally, I think it does.
The true unbeatable traps were not designed by Kramer. Amanda and Hoffman did not care if the traps were survivable or not. Granted, Jigsaw did have some REALLY hard traps to survive where someone can easily die even with the ‘Will to survive’. Let’s also not forget how some games include murdering other people, when they are helpless to save themselves.
It's clear that a) Jigsaw doesn't play test his traps to ensure they are beatable within the time limit, and b) that he considers setting up one person for failure in a two-person trap... somehow NOT murder
@@pringlebatch yea. I'm kinda upset about the insurance company games, where the player needs to choose between an elderly woman and a single lonely young man to die.
Not to mention that part where the 2 survivors needs to give 5lb of blood. At the end they realized that all of the rooms would have been easy if they work together from the beggining. None of them would have died
For the circular saw trap: Remember that 10 pints is just 1.5 gallons of liquid.If all of the participants chipped in by collecting water or other bodily fluids( other than blood in the trap) they would’ve been been better off. If for instance, each person peed into the trap, would’ve at least reduced the blood loss necessary. As for the key…
THAT WAS MY FIRST THOUGHT! Urinate as much as possible before shedding blood. Stick your fingers down your throat and throw up. Throw small objects or scraps of clothing in, etc.
Other people have suggested the bodily fluids thing but the supervisor of the games probably would have shut that down and killed them anyway. Like technically it’s cheating
I watched the first two Saw-movies with a friend and she actually had a very interesting idea why Jigsaw was like that: It was never his intention to actually have beatable traps. He just wanted to punish people, but he musters out who should have a survival-chance and who not. Everyone who doesn't have a survival-chance in his opinion he gives the illusion of freedom, lurking him in the last hope just to be destroyed even more (If someone watched "Fate/Zero" (Terrible anime to be honest, but with very interesting ideas), you can compare that to Bluebeards speak of why he let the kid go just to kill him off with a tentaclemonster while he was reaching the door). Also it gives everyone the illusion that Jigsaw gives everyone a chance. This was best shown with Adams key - Adam was meant to be killed in the very beginning, Jigsaw stated that in Gordons tape. The mentioning with the key was just Jigsaw saying "You had a chance, you let it slip", creating the illusion Adam had a chance to flee while actually he never had. Thinking it further, he might actually have more of a problem with his students not because they were rigging the game - But because they were rigging it too obviously. So in this case, Jigsaw is a murderer, and he knows it. He is just a sadistic mastermind giving the illusion he "frees" people, while sometimes actually freeing people (if it was his intention or not is another thing).
The tongue one in Spiral was also pretty much unbeatable, had he ripped his whole tongue off he'd have probably bled out to death way before he could leave and look for help
Yes, the traps in Spiral are meant to be unbeatable, the guy is taking revenge on the dirty cops that killed his father, makes sense he wants them dead.
The tooth puzzle is impossible because you will likely scratch off the numbers from your teeth while trying to rip them out. Your best shot is to try and feel the shape with your finger, then guess the code.
I don’t get why people where so shocked by the needle trap, i found the twisting limbs trap much worse to look at (where his legs and arms and eventually his neck starts twisting) i forgot the name of the trap but it’s from Saw 3 i believe
Well I can't speak for others. I can say that perspective is particularly important. I have an unusual phobia of needles. I still (at 30) stuff my face in a pillow in Pulp Fiction when they give her the adrenaline. I am fully aware of how nonsensical this fear is. Needless to say, that needle scene was absolutely terrifying for me. I only remember the beginning of it when they are looking at the pit, I went into another room for that scene. I can handle people getting sliced open, organs oozing out of wounds, pretty much anything you can think of... but not needles... it's fuckin weird.
@@anthonyfaiell3263 I forgot there exists such a thing as a phobia for needles, that’s understandable. Okay, i cringed a bit at the needle scene but i almost felt my own limbs get twisted when i was watching the respective scene. The dude had to sacrifice his both hands (i think) if he wanted to free himself from it, so he would end up getting them crushed completely. He was a cop
Towards the final movies, the traps seemed to get really unfair, and it never made sense to me e.g. William Easton had to kill people to win his games. But I guess even the first film had Amanda kill to get her key? It seems weird that John put so much emphasis on living through your trap, but anyone involved in your trap was just a throwaway set piece. Do they get a tape too? "Hey, in 3 minutes someone is gonna bust in here and kill you for the key in your guts. Try to poop it out and you get to live..."
The willaim Easton was a comment on the health system in America so I guess it kinda makes sense and there's also a theory that the guy Amanda killed failed his test already and that was his punishment
@mrdoe97 oh it's definitely still murder. What John does is murder lol. I guess it's supposed to make you think about real life and how companies see people
The reason the bathroom trap for Adam is unbeatable is not cause of John but it's due to Amanda. They retroactively explain it but it does explain why it went down the drain while Lawrence had his key. It's actually explained that most of the unbeatable trap are not due to John but instead it's his disciples. I think the only exception is Lawrence. He's the only desciple that makes the traps actually beatable.
What did that photographer guy do to deserve such punishment. He was a creep, sure, but nowhere a criminal. Then again, nor the doctor. The saw franchise makes no sense.
@@hannibalburgers477 I don’t remember. I would have to rewatch the movie again. If anything you can watch a video from CZs World. He makes great videos about horror movies.
Explain how Saw III had beatable traps during Jeff's run. JEFF got to choose who lives and who dies. The victims didn't get a free shot of winning. And before you use the "he didn't know it was Amanda" excuse, HE HIMSELF SETS UP THE LAST TRAP WHERE AN INNOCENT KID DIES BECAUSE JEFF DIDNT FORGIVE HIM. That's the end of the movie and the whole point is that Kramer was testing Jeff with this. So did the kid have a fair chance of escaping their fate? I don't think so.
@@filipferencak2717 you didn’t read what I wrote. When John does the traps they are beatable. When his disciples do the traps they are unbeatable, again with the exception of Lawrence. Virtually all the trap victims in III died as a result of Jeff being slow & being terrible. Jeff failed his test. But his daughter survives. She was a part of another test. His daughter was being held somewhere else but she wasn’t in a trap.
as someone who also did, same, even though i get scared at night, cause my imaginations go wild (i'm not exactly tolerant to torture movies), i still find these really interesting and addicting, who knows, maybe if i watch enough of these i become more used to it and less scared, i don't really know lol
My main complaint for the Tooth pulling trap is, 2/4 of my wisdom teeth, when removed by professionals, shattered into pieces. So idk, seems like a damned if you do damned if you dont
i mean if your wisdom teeth are impacted they purposefully cut or break them into chunks so they can remove the crown and then roots seperately so its a less invasive incision
I used to have three wisdom teeth, had to remove one when it was starting to impact in my jaw and let me tell you, even if you're under the laughing gas smell and the anesthesia is injected into you, you still hear the crack during the whole works and feel the pain afterwards. Not pleasant either way, especially if it breaks at the root and only one part comes out before they have to pull the other root out.
@@spectrumscribble1498 damn. They shot me up with ketamine for mine so* i was unconscious the whole time. Had to have a ride home lol. The recovery sucked tho.
For the flammable jelly trap, you don't even need to move to beat it. It's one of those left-right-left combination locks which can easily be cracked just by spinning slowly and listening/feeling for the clicks. Obviously if it's a better designed one, that won't work, but you can still brute force it by hand algorithmically, it might just take a little while and I don't think there's any time limit to that one.
Doubt you can brute force your way in the safe. Don't know exactly about the one in the movie, but one usually need to input 4 combinations of 2 digit numbers that range from 00 to 99. This means there are 100,000,000 combinations possible. If you can put a combination in 12 seconds constantly, it would take more than 38 years for you to go through every single combination.
@@HoradeFidges 1) In the movie it's a three-combination left-right-left dial lock, not four 2) The safe looks like a shitty safe, even by 2004 standards. Those old, cheap models were cheap because they used less fine machining standards, and so there are non-trival limits to how close each number can be to the last, meaning there are entire zones you can rule out just based on what number you last checked. 3) There's also a forbidden zone on the third entry of the combination, which means 20+ numbers can be ruled out on the last check. While it may look like a dial safe has 100^n combinations to check (100^3 here), in practice it is quite a bit less than that. Combined with the audible clues you'd get from an old safe like this, you may only have to check 30,000 combinations unless the combo was specifically chosen to maximize the amount of time to brute force. That's maybe 16-20 hours depending on how quick you can put in a combo - which should be much less than 12 seconds, idk where you got that from, might only take 2 or 3, if that: say closer to 30 hours if you want to account for your hand getting tired. That sounds about right, just checking some ads from around that time and a lot of them list "can resist up to 20 hours of manual manipulation!" as a selling point. So yeah, brute forcing is a very viable method in the SAW trap situation.
@@RangersGirlJackie99 I love everything you just said. Besides the fact that there was indeed a bit of a time limit. Man’s had poison running through his veins for probs a few hours at the least. Who knows how long he would’ve lasted if he hadn’t burned to death
@@reivoidwalker still way higher chances of survival than walking around, stepping on glass, risking to slip on your own blood and light yourself on fire, trying to guess a code from just an unbelievably hard puzzle on the walls. This way, you're not putting yourself in any more danger than you already are in, it's not hard, not complicated at all, it's just boring. He could have gotten lucky, you know? That's like the main reason of brute forcing a code combination - hoping to get it rather quickly. You can estimate how much time it will take at max and that number is rather intimidating, but the min is like... immediately? You never know, every next input can be the last one and your chances are only going higher and higher the longer you do it. Oh, and, wild guess, but I think dying from poisoning might be better then burning. Like, if you know you'll most likely die, wouldn't you want to go with a least painful option?
@@heilinstarling9436 Yeah, he did have options, they just weren't very good options. I'd definitely get rid of the candle rather than put it close to my flammable oil-covered body.
tbh the death mask thing was one of the most uh... uncomfortable traps for me lol (i hate thinking about the eye, i dont like visitting ophthalmologist and basically any surgery or doing anything around the eye so its really 💀 for me)
That trap was "comade" by Hoffman, who made most of his traps impossible. So its likely that Hoffman was the one that decided that, Kramer probably just designed the trap without victims in mind. I could be wrong though,
Oh there was a very specific reason for that. The whole movie is about being sentenced to death by insurance providers. John was 52 when he got declined and the smoker was also 52. Not only this but its the same outcome. The smoker had a death sentence against a person who could breath normally, he had no chance to win. Which was the point of the first test. So yea, the smoker really got screwed over here, but there were definite reasons for it.
One of the movie franchises I can die comfortably without seeing. Very intriguing but intense. This video is the closest I’ve gotten to it. Somethings aren’t so easy to forget
Actually in Saw 3, almost all traps were designed by Amanda's John's follower and self-proclaimed successor. She made the traps unbeatable because she thought people didm't deserve to win. As for Hoffman's traps, they were survivable but they were far too brutal
I just can't imagine being able to convince yourself "he can survive after scooping his eyeball out" or something to that degree or higher. Then again, John is clearly already an extremely unwell man lmao
@@BookWyrmOnAStringHis character technically does. Near fatal bloody car crash is what sorta set him on this crazy ass path. Still a psycho but does know blood loss 😂
The cutting out the eye would be survivable. The blood vessels going to the eye are small. That's why so many people have lost an eye in an incredibly traumatic way and lived. What gets me is that damn X-ray. It shows the position of the key as upright. The ocular cavity tapers like a cone, so the key couldn't possibly be directly behind the eye and upright but still inside the ocular cavity. The only way that X-ray makes sense is if the key behind the ocular cavity entirely. So, either in the cranial cavity snuggled up on the frontal lobe of the brain OR behind his head entirely. It would be insane if it's that last one. Dude cuts out his eye and there is no key because it was an elaborate troll/murder.
My grandfather wore glasses because apparently a cannon blew up right at his face, damaging one of his eye. (Not in army. The town i lived fired cannons to welcome one of the statesman in 60's) He told me they scooped his eye out to remove fragments. So by using the back side of the scalpel, it may be possible
The classroom trap wasn't done by John. The door was welded shut. There was no escape or the dude, even if he did somehow get the ring out of his jaw. That is not a John Kramer trap that is an Amanda trap. Her traps were 100% unbeatable.
Yeah you’re right!! Ugh I’ve seen each of these movies at least 4 times by now yet I still make these mistakes… but yeah now that you mention it I remember Kerry saying “the door was welded shut… even if he freed himself he couldn’t escape”. This makes it a completely rigged trap.
@@HitStartYT It happens to us all, there's a lot of traps to deal with after all lol. It was just a side comment, that can be easily missed of forgotten, after all.
A good idea. I do wonder how long it would take to remove the gel, as it looked like the glass was all in small piece. Also, I can't remember where I heard this from (been way too long) , but it is possible that Jigsaw glued most of the glass to the floor. But I didn't see an adhesive material with the glass. There is still the whole safe to unlock before the poison would have killed the guy too.
Forgetting the fact it was impossible to escape, the chain trap is probably the one I would least want to do out of any trap in the series. Watching him rip the chains through his achilles makes me cringe every time. Then the chain through his jaw just tops it off and waiting for the timer to count down to die is the only viable option because screw that
What makes it worse for me to watch is that Troy isn’t as bad of a person as some of the other test subjects. The rationale is just that he’s a repeat petty offender or something. But when you compare him to the rapists and neo nazis that were tested (who I don’t feel sorry for lol) it really makes me feel bad for him. He looks genuinely scared throughout the scene and I feel so bad for the guy, he tries so hard to escape but it was futile. Just adds to how unwatchable that scene is. 😔
Well the chain trap guy was just dumb af, if i woke up and felt/saw all those things in me, first thing i'd see is if there is a gap to take the one on my jaw out, as soon as i see there is no way i'd just sit there waiting for the bomb, why hurt myself when it's meaningless?
@@allyflint1807 I don't see a reason why you wouldn't feel sorry for a Neo nazi ? If he didn't kill ,rape nor abuse anyone then who gives a shit if he supports an immoral ideology
Unbeatable traps were created by Amanda Young. Classroom trap, Angel Trap were designed by Amanda for the victims execution, rather than their “rebirth”
The entire Saw III movie is full of traps where people are literally rigged to die no matter what and it's done by Jigsaw himself. Jeff picks who gets to live and the victims are left entirely at his mercy. But yeah, I'm sure the victims thought the traps were beatable.
I remember hearing somewhere that Amanda placed Adam's key, hence why its put in such a shitty place. I don't remember who said that though sooo I dunno if its true.
@@noblerook Yeah, it's heavily implied that Amanda prepared the classroom trap, too, hence why it's unbeatable. the same goes for the ribcage trap as there was no way Agent Kerry could remove the things from her body. Amanda was just a shitty person.
@@Ermac97 depends how you look at it. Watch amandas history video from another UA-camr (can't think of his name) and you'll probably have more sympathy for her and understand why she did some of the stuff. I got mad at her when i first saw her traps and stuff but knowing the full picture she's not all bad
In a Saw 3 flashback they showed setting up the bathroom trap. She put him in the tub, started the water and just tossed the key onto his chest. He was still alive when she went into the bathroom to mercy kill him cuz she felt bad for him. That was before she lost it and killed people in inescapable traps like Troy on Saw 3 and Kerry in Saw 3. But Hoffman was in on atleast the Kerry trap. Maybe he helped with the classroom trap too but it's not really stated for that one
People tends to forget that Jigsaw traps are constantly being watched from cameras by Him or his helpers, so its way too hard to find ways out the box to defeat them when you are being watched
One thing about the candle trap to make it easier. Instead of walking directly on top of the glass shards, just use your hand to shove it out of the way.
Well the classroom trap was built to be inescapable and he was basically meant to die. Amanda built her traps that way due to her belief that they didn't deserve second chances like John gave them if they succeeded. So in that film all of her traps were inescapable. So all of Johns traps you could escape but at a huge cost, just Amanda's, then towards end others too, weren't; but especially Amanda's as she built them 100% inescapable.
I'd say Logan is an exception, especially in the last trap. He gave Halloran a chance to live (sparing Logan and confessing to his wrongdoings), and Halloran blew it. He was probably the only one to truly stick to Jigsaw's ideology.
So a few things to take into account: 1. In regards to the Venus Flytrap from Saw II, the game Saw II: Flesh and Blood shows that this trap actually is beatable, you would just need to cut the stitching on your eye and you would be able to reach the key. 2. In Saw III, Saw IV, & Saw V, both the Angel Wings/Rib Spreader Trap and the Classroom Trap are 2 of the traps determined to have to have been done by a 2nd accomplice as it is noted that John Kramer himself would have been too sick at that point to set up the traps and Amanda would not have the physical capabilities.
This. It is even shown in Saw 3d where the doctor from the first film is shown sewing the key behind that guys eye. Granted, it would be painful, but if you could work thru the pain to get to the key....
1:42 - I never understood the “broken glass” sound effects or why people think there’s any glass in the pit. All of those syringes are plastic as almost all modern syringes are.
All of Amanda’s traps were unbeatable she purposely wanted her victims dead. Like that one trap with the girl and the acid she had to get the key out before the timer went or her chest was gonna open up and Amanda walked in at the last minute and tricked it cs she got the key out in time and the key wasn’t even for that trap.
In the flammable jelly trap he could have actually tried dozens of things like 1 Killing the candle to see if the correct numbers light up in darkness somewhere on the wall (there are matches on the table he could have reignited the candle), at the end of the scene it also turns out that there has been a hole on one of the walls the whole time through which a ray of light got in the room but which was only visible if you killed the candle, that ray of light could have pointed at the correct numbers in total darkness, he could have walked up lit up the candle again and read the numbers 2 Slowly walk around the room and hold the candle close enough to all the numbers to see if some of them change colour in reaction to heat or light 3 wipe some of the jelly off his body and throw it in one of the corners then gently throw a lighting match at it to see better 4 make himself puke because he was told he had been poisoned but it acts slowly and there is no time limit 5 try inputting a few random combinations and hope one of them works, the numbers on the wall are random anyway so it’s a waste of time to walk up to them one by one 6 the room is not fully shown but there must be an entrance somewhere, try braking that down and get something he can pry open the vault with or at the least wipe the jelly off his body with the doorway also provides light 7 it’s not mentioned either where this room is so it can easily be that it opens straight to civilization like to a public road where he could get help from or run straight to a hospital and say he had been poisoned with something So this trap might not be impossible at all we are just not provided with enough detail on it
All of this requires you not to be under stress though and pressure. Plus this would take too much time. He should have gave him more time. Doing all this in 1 or 2 mins is impossible.
0:14 "I did lock a guy who was suffering from a gunshot wound in a dirty bathroom forever. But that doesn't count. Also, I cut a cop's throat, but I somehow knew he'd be ok"
"I've never killed anyone, i'm not a murderer" You put them in situations where it was either maim themselves permanently or death John, you can ride that high horse all day but that shit ain't gonna hold up for a fucking SECOND in court
I still can't wrap my head around how Amanda was able to get out of the reverse bear trap in 60 seconds while the on-screen time was more than 60 seconds. I don't remember anyone else being given so little time as well. So how did she do it or am I missing something?
it's just movie magic. Also Jigsaw paralyzed that other person in the room and allowed Amanda to murder him in order to save herself. so jigsaw doesn't murder he sets other people up to do though.
You're ignoring how the editing distorted time by showing some of the footage in fast motion... oh wait that means she used up even more time. A wizard did it.
I always liked saw 2 the best for some reason, something about a group of people going through a house full of traps and being timed to escape is just fun to watch. I wish there were more movies like it
I liked the trap parts in saw 5 most, its exactly what a saw trap should be, noone’s death was unavoidable, and they all are obvious that(depending on the mindset) at least one person dies or noone needs to die in any of them.
For the flammable gel trap , all you can do is placing the candle to a safe distance and then try 10.000 possible combinations. Surviving is not complately in your hands but you can increase your chance by being fast and trying most of it. The wall is not a help.
some people said that its possible that the combination could have been written in an ink that would only show in complete darkness. but then it would be a bit harder to turn the lock on the safe.
If you had some sort of reflective surface for the tooth pulling one, you could use it as a mirror to see the numbers on your teeth without removing any of them.
There was a TV and shiny pliers. If you had really good eyesight, say 20/15, you should be able to use the pliers to show you the numbers in the reflection of the blank TV screen without having to do impromptu dental procedures.
If I recall correctly, in a later Saw movie, John is starting to get the hint that Amanda makes unwinnable games so he tells her to tie the key to Adam's foot but she just tosses it on his chest. He totally knew she made it impossible. Oh, and the classroom trap is kind of debatable who set it up. The door was welded shut, indicating it wasn't set up by Jigsaw, but that's not to say perhaps he didn't conceive of it and his apprentice just welded the door shut against his wishes.
My only problem with the key thing is, ok, everything goes as planned and Adam picks up the key and use it, is he free now and gets to skip everything that followed in the movie?, it's a cool final twist that the key was with him but got lost, but in universe it doesn't make any senses
To beat the needle pit, just take your shoes off and put them over your hands while you’re digging. The thick rubber soles and leather will give some protection and also act as paddles. There are objects in the room, too; a pram, and a box. Use them as scoops.
The guy from the last trap you mentioned wouldn’t have survived anyway because in the movie the only door to the way out was sealed shut. Thats why Rigg and the other officers had to Knock it dow after he died. So even if he pulled everything out there would be no way for him to escape.
One of the first unbeatable traps I noticed that wasn't plotted to be unbeatable (such as the remove the chain trap) was Rex's trial, he was as good as dead no matter what; all his major organs were already pierced and if the rods weren't removed both he and his wife would just sit there and bleed out, so to even call it "their" trial would be wrong because it's only a trial for his wife, the only one who could survive
I haven’t actually seen the scene, but why would she bleed out if she didn’t pull them out? One survival tip that everyone knows is that if you get impaled or pierced in a way that will cause blood loss, you DONT pull it out because it actually blocks the exit and prevents a lot of blood from leaving your body
@@sofialozano4031 the saw movie have always played fast and loose with the logic. in that trap, her and her husband were bound back to back, with spikes going through each of their bodies. they were supposedly impaled in such a way that her wounds would be deadly if she didn't pull the spikes out, and his would be deadly if she did edit: just realized that this is a 2 month old comment, i hope it was still helpful lol
You would think that but it isn't true at all. He had a chain through his jaw bone and lip which would've he most likely killed him due to blood lost if it was removed.
@@redpanda6134 i think he means that if you break the jar, you can survive the explosion so now you have an infinite amount of time to safely saw the chain off the jaw hook, so he can move around without have to get rid of his mouth
Thank you. I've been saying how those traps are bs as f. But people say " They are not you can survive just by doing X despite X being something so difficult and will lead you to being crippled for the rest of your life, you can still escape"
On the wisdom tooth one, I got mine (all of them) removed, and one came out pretty easily, but there was one that the Doctor had use all of her strength, like, no joke, she was moving my head along with the tools, it was literally impossible and she realized that after the third or fourth pull, so she had to cut even more AND apply even more anesthesia to remove it. Oh, and still on topic: I once forgot to take in the painkillers after one of the teeth was removed, and I swear the pain was worse than when I dislocated my entire hand off my forearm
I always wondered whether for the wisdom teeth trap he could smash off a piece of mirror with the hammer and then hold it behind his teeth to see the numbers
The problem is that some of the traps weren't made by Kramer. The lore of Saw even goes as far as showing how Kramer would be disappointed in those who followed him because some of the traps were literally impossible to beat. As vicious as they were, his traps always left somebody the chance to beat them.
nah lots of John traps are actually unbeatable. what about joyce that had to die ? and let's be real here most of his traps are in fact unbeatable. idc if you have to saw body parts,etc, that in enough itself makes the trap unbeatable
@@forproject1666 exactly I’m pretty sure you only have to lose 40% of your blood to bleed to death, a sawed off body part will surely lead to your death considering there’s probably nothing to stop the bleeding in there and no way to get to a hospital
The last one was designed by Kramer, yes, but... it is revealed in Saw 2 that Amanda modified the trap to be impossible. She also welded the door shut so even if he did somehow remove that extra chain he would have died anyway. Carrie even brings up that the trap was completely impossible.
@@owenjohnston3541 you just rotate the knob in either direction until you hear a click, then go in the opposite direction, then again until it opens. It requires of some trial and error but there's not much else to it
Jigsaw says everybody has a chance, but then he makes traps where you deliberately have to kill another person to survive, a person who is bound and unable to do anything outside of hope you fail to save yourself.
“You must solve this world renowned calculus equation that has puzzled the most prestigious scientists since it was discovered, remove 311 of your ass hairs with your left pinky toe, remove both eyes and then take a standardized 9th grade exam, solve a 12 x 12 Rubik’s cube, build a miniaturized thermo-nuclear reactor and asexually reproduce a litter of kittens. You have 0.8 seconds, good luck lol 😉”
@@JustJakePape I watched Saw X recently and loved it, I really enjoyed how John was clearly the good guy here. I mean in most long-running horror franchises, you start to sympathize with or even root for the more familiar killer over randoms you just met and you don't even know the name of half the time... so they just say "heck it John's the good guy here". but even then.... There were two times where the trap was basically solved and the person would have been free... if they had literally five more seconds.. Like, really that says less about their will to live, and more about John not realizing it might take more than three minutes to grab a piece of their brain out or their skull and wait for it to dissolve...
Question did John leave water for the Fat guy? Then no not all his traps were beatable. Not only that, starving yourself to 'loose weight' doesn't really work and the fat guy could have died of starvation even if he is fat. John has made traps that are unbeatable. Period. The guy literally cut himself open so badly he leaked his stomach contents. That is death. Amanda's trap is technically unbeatable in the time frame given. 26 feet of intestines and ship to go through? Yeah no. Let me try to remember... technically the first two were unbeatable as well. At least for the photographer. That saw, or saws, could not cut through bone. With how fragile we see that they are. So unless the docs was different than the photographer then that means he actually fails completely. (other than him actually drowning in the first place)
The Classroom trap should be in the rigged traps section for 3 reasons 1. There was no way that Troy could rip his jaw without hilariously bad consecuences 2. The door that Troy would use to "escape" when he ripped all his chains was welded shut 3. His damaged tendons wouldn't let him walk to the door even if he could magicaly remove all the chains and the door wasn't welded shut
1. The key in the needle trap wasn't at the bottom nor even close to the middle. 2. The jelly trap was impossible imo. But he just had to keep the candle on the safe and he wouldn't have been flammable since the lights were on. 3. The points of sacrifice was passable, seeing as they did pass. They were supposed to worked together. 4. The very first game was passable. John just messed up by putting the key in the tub near the drain. He could've broken his foot as well with the toilet lid. 5. The Venus fly trap was not passable. He needed more time. Maybe like 2-3 minutes to do it instead of just 1 min. Cutting into that part of your face right under your eye socket while not cutting a nerve and bleeding out is a very difficult task to ask in 1 min. 6. The knife chair was not really supposed to be passable. John knew how he would behave so he died as a result. 7. Bobby's wife's death was his own fault. He could have skipped past the hooks and climbed up the chains to get the trap undone. The wisdom teeth are no big deal tho. 8. I actually liked this trap cause it was well deserved. I didn't care if he passed or not. But it was passable. 9. The silent circle was not passable. Of course she's going to scream. 10. John didn't set up this trap I believe. It was his apprentice Hoffman. All of Hoffman's and Amanda's traps were unfair and unbeatable.
7. I just had tooth extraction and I’d rather die than do that without anesthesia. And you still require skill to pull it out properly without shattering
I’m regards to Adam’s key in Saw 1 being impossible, I think it was given lip service that Amanda just dumped the key in when it was meant to be tied to something so it could still be retrieved. Basically, because she didn’t care if they lived or died, she didn’t set the game up correctly and it became rigged when it wasn’t supposed to be.
“The key is inside the center of your heart. All you have to do is remove your heart and grab the key before the time is up or your chest will explode.” Type of stuff they were on 💀
The key placement was Amanda
That's just Jojo part 2 shit
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Exactly
@@imanidiot1725 fr
Stab the heart, the dutchman must have a cap- oh wait wrong franchise
"Look officer, I killed no one. He did it himself, I just simply tied him to a safe, and required him to eat all of his own intestines in 10 seconds or be ejected out of a plane to fall to his death. He DECIDED not to eat all of his intestines."
Sigma male jigsaw
Those zany psychopaths. What will they think of next? 🤣
Officer: “Dude what the fuck?”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
God damn I didn’t expect that
“For this trap You’ll have to break every single Finger, toe, and limb you have. You then have to solve a 5x5 rubiks Cube. You have 2 seconds. Good luck”
"If you fail, this modified razor chicken wire will slowly kill you, good luck once more"
"The choice is yours, let the games begin."
@@smackdashitoutchu7755 *activates little saw doll laugh*
I'd get out unscathed in 0.8 seconds. Built different.
Haha. With plot armor it'll be barely an inconvenience.
The trap I personally hated the most (and not talking survival odds here), was Amanda's trap in the very first Saw. Every trap (not talking about the rigged aspect here), was designed, at the very least, to give the captee a chance at escaping at personal cost/pain. But Amanda's trap had her cut open another person (who was supposed to be dead too). Not once did she have to make a personal sacrifice, something Jigsaw prides himself on when designing his traps.
yep and that’s why i didn’t felt as much empathy for Amanda bc she just killed someone else, I mean that’s really fucked up and not an easy thing to do, but it’s so much easier to hurt someone else instead of hurting yourself because when u hurt urself your brain literaly stop u from doing so which is why it’s so difficult and why so many people die in Saw because they waste time panicking
It was her prision mate
@@NoNono-o3hhow can he be her prison mate? Mixed gender prisons? Since when?
The cost/pain was her living with the fact that she killed someone else to save her own skin.
@@PlusUltraAdrian exactly. which is the vast majority of people would rather do/be more capable of doing than mutilating themselves. Especially if you believe the other person to already be dead anyway.
“I have never shot anyone, i gave them the chance to dodge it.”
@ItzDreiGaming 7 thank you brother 🤝
Your profile pictures makes this comment so much better
Sigma mindset
@@santicheeks1106 pure sigma mentality
@@WhosNiall sneed
Him: all my traps are beatable
The trap: you have 0.7 seconds to pull out your eyeballs with your toes
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OH NOO
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LeT tHe gAmeS bEgAn
I really laughed out loud for this
I don't think Jigsaw's argument of him being innocent and not having killed anybody 'himself' would hold up in a court of law.
It's like tripping your little brother so he falls down the stairs and then telling your mom "I didn't hit him"
you dont think?
The players didn't consent to being put into the traps so his argument would definitely not hold up in a court of law
Probably why John Kramer and his accomplices tried to keep their identities hidden from the law and the general public.
@@aniquinstark4347 Right, it's semantics. Yes you technically didn't hit him, but you did hurt him.
Fun fact: If I remember correctly the door to the classroom in the classroom trap was welded shut so even if the poor guy somehow tore his jaw off and lived, he couldn't leave the room. It was literally unbeatable. Also the angel trap was unbeatable.
The jar with the acid wasn't glued to the ring or anything. Push it up, pour out the acid, take the key.
@@sethmcavoy1800 She got the key. There was another contraption on her that kept her in place. She was screwed no matter what.
Amanda traps.
@@sethmcavoy1800The device was in her ribcage, she would have died anyways
@@sethmcavoy1800She couldn’t even move the goddamn jar ☠️
After the 2nd movie, John Kramer was no longer constructing the traps. It was actually pointed out that Amanda's traps were unbeatable and John didn't approve of that. Once he died, it spiraled out of control and became more about killing and torturing than it was about teaching someone to value their lives which was John's whole philosophy behind why he did what he did. By the end, the one before the stupid reboot or Jigsaw movie, it came full circle that he used the doctor from the first movie to make sure the ones that killed unnecessarily and in John's name, were stopped and paid the price for misrepresenting his vision
And that’s why the new movie is called Spiral😎
That's only mostly true. While Hoffman and Amanda had their share of unbeatable traps most of what you see was planned and at least partly made by John.
Spiral isn’t a reboot tho? It’s a side story in the saw franchise not directly connected but not a reboot either
Spiral wasn't a reboot
@@dpprsion5379 says you
No one ever talks about those traps where it’s a 1v1 and only one person can survive. That’s straight up murder because no matter what, one person will die.
Duress cannot be used for murder
@@ko4648 Putting two people in a situation where ONLY one can live is murder.
@@melvinmerkelhopper5752 But jigsaw wouldn't be the murderer because the other person in the room has to kill them
@@redpanda6134 Under threat of death, by Jigsaw.
If I put a gun to someone's head and go "Kill that guy" and they kill that guy to avoid getting shot, it would be me being put on the line for murder.
@X nah just facts
The Classroom Trap was set up by Amanda. It's noted by the detectives that arrive that even if the victim were to somehow rip the hook out of his jaw without killing himself and still be able to walk with all of the trauma and blood loss he'd suffered, all of the exits were either barred or welded shut. He had no way out.
It was never escapable but was possibly survivable. It depends how long the detectives took to get there after the trap. If he ripped out the chains a bit faster then he could've been able to disable, move or at least minimize the blast of the bomb. He could've dragged tables and chairs over, smashed the jar so the nails went everywhere and dragged a table over for a shield. I don't remember how long after the trap the detectives arrived but if he had done that, he could've survived but been taken to hospital. If it was too long he would've died of blood loss or possibly from infection if he made it to hospital, the classroom wasn't exactly clean.
However, this all assumes that he thought perfectly rationally and worked quickly through the fear and pain. It would be nearly impossible unless the person in it was extremely intelligent. John probably could have freed himself but he would know how those bombs work, would know quite a bit about anatomy, and would know to keep calm and prioritize. This man stood no chance.
@@eleanorcooke7136 damn analysis rely made me realize just how doomed he was. Makes me so damn glad it's made up. How unfair...poor man
Then why was saw voice explaining the trap? Maybe he just wasn't responsible for the one on his mouth??? Idk.
@@shantasiahaynes4490 Saw's voice also was used for Detective Kerry's trap. I can't quite remember if it was Amanda or Hoffman who made those traps, probably Hoffman, but they both used John's saw voice. We know that those traps weren't made by Kramer though because even if you succeeded, you would still die. John was even mad at both Amanda and Hoffman for making unbeatable traps.
No Way Out???
DO YOU MEAN THE HIT PERK IN DEAD BY DAYLIGHT FROM THE TRICKSTER???
I loved the concept of Saw 5 and the realization that they should have worked together. It's such a slap to the face 😂
I like it when traps relate to the characters. Even though Saw Spiral is bad, the traps are cool
Yeah I saw that movie I was in a state of shock and disappointment 😂
That was on purpose. Every one of those people was a selfish jerk and he knew they would all do whatever it took to save their own skin.
@@StewyAdamRules yeah he knows that. He couldn't comment what he commented without knowing this already. It's the same
The funny thing is there was a freshly dead corpse in the other room. They could’ve dragged it and take them blood out of it for the 10 pints of blood trap. But no just cut our hands open for no reason
The classroom trap is 100% unbeatable, and is set up by Amanda Young. John Kramer played a game with Amanda in Saw III for making unbeatable traps, such as the classroom one, because even if you ripped out your jaw and lived, the door was welded shut.
destroy the bomb it wont go off ifyou push it over and break the glass. He said impossible IF YOU FOLLOW THE RULES
@@nash2935u really believe a man can outsmart a jigsaw killer
@@idotso yeah, like, John kramer is a human, he aint fucking god, he isnt perfect, someone outsmarting him is def possible, there are also videos out there where people can explain how to outsmart jigsaw's traps.
@@nash2935you break the bomb and then what? Even if you somehow managed to get the chain out of your jaw without riping your jaw off how will you escape the classroom you will just die of starvation or dehydration
@@Kai_075 you are right
Jigsaw: “All my traps are beatable”
The trap: “In order you survive you must die”
😂 That’s the best one yet.
lmaoooo this had me dead, pun intended
They chose not to die like its there fault
Yup 😂
"Death is not an escape" ~Dead by daylight
My favorite thing about saw is that he explains the game like it’s easy. “All you have to do it is remove your wisdom teeth” LMAO WHAT?!
Had to have one removed like 12 years ago, by a profesional, shit was so hard and well put that it took him 3 hours of cutting, hitting and pulling all while my mouth could feel nothing... So yeah, unless they were already falling from that guy's mouth it aint that easy.
I'm not a murderer, all he had to do was reach the key I put in his femur using only a pencil in 60 seconds
exactly what i fucking thought like even front teeth even with any type of numbing agent or anethestic to help if you could do so yourself would still take an agonizing ammount of time to remove even if your being forceful as possible let alone your wisdom teeth without any type of way to deal with the pain this trap is straight up impossible
This trap was stupid. What if the guy had his roots really tangled up in there? There wouldn't have been anyway to get it out. Furthermore what if his teeth weren't fully grown in yet? How was he supposed to be able to fit the tool around the tooth. Lastly, the mouth would have been too small to even pull it out. Where could you even pull? If he tried it there is a good chance that he couldn't get the tooth out because his mouth was too small to fit the tool in there and pulling it up.
@@ragerasse7616 true and this is sadly still only a tenth of the reasons this design was terrible even if you could be put under and somehow still operate on yourself unconcious without pain it would still take ages and thats the best impossible scenario as ripping out even front teeth let alone a wisdom tooth is a lot harder then most people give credit but at least to be fair you could tell he used ones that were fully set so at least thats on the table i guess
In a realistic scenario, all traps with a few minutes or less timer in this franchise would end in the victim dying while still processing the situation, without doing anything towards freeing themselves. Hell, the objective could be: "Tell me your birthday" with a 60 second timer, and chances are the shock of waking up in the nightmare and the inevitable mental side effects of being unconscious would still make the victim fail.
That was kinda my favorite thing about Saw 3D. Bobby knew he needed all the time in the world for these traps and he would start trying to solve them before the time was up.
That was my thing, too. Even for something like Amanda in the reverse-bear trap. She has to stab a guy to death and root through his organs to find a key, then use that slippery key on a lock that she can't see. All in...2 minutes? With only a (looks like) no. 3 scalpel?
As someone who has dissected more than a few cadavers, I'm calling bullshit on that. There's fascia and muscle, loads of fluids, and it looks like she gets the key out of the mesentary, which is the connective tissue between organs that old them in place. So she had to really get in there.
I might be able to do it in 2 minutes if I knew exactly where to look. But I don't think Amanda had any knowledge or experience of human dissection.
@@austinluther5825please tell me you are a coroner
EXACTLY. People will understandably just scream or be so confused that wouldn't even listen to the TV recording.
i feel like the time should be much longer lmao
ain't no way i can mutilate my body in a few minutes, imma need several days to get the strength (and i probably wouldn't even do it in the end)
Jigsaw is like that math teacher who will give you the most hardest math question you've ever seen but, when ask him honestly if he knows the answer he will just say, "To be honest? I actually don't know how to solve it."
I think he's more like one of those teachers that has no idea what theyre talking about, everyone can tell they don't know, but when confronted about it will say "who's the teacher here?"
I had a English teacher who's spelling was abysmal, but she would always insist her spelling must be correct as she's a qualified English teacher.
@@emmastrange5557 i had a sub math teacher that had to look up almost everything and she was here for a week because our teacher was sick
That’s more Amanda if anything, her traps may as well have sign saying “Haha die trash”
note, jigsaw is the type of teacher, who gives you an impossible question and enjoys as you suffer through attempting to answer it in front of the class and then, when you can’t instead of answering the question because they don’t actually have an answer, they just smugly monologue about how if you had listen in class you have the answer to a question he is never taught and has no bearing on the education you are trying to get. Amanda young will give you the worlds hardest to solve impossible question and when you can’t answer it, kick you out the classroom give you detention for the rest of the day and then go to the principal and ask for your expulsion, knowing that that’s gonna get you kicked out of the country. Jigsaw has a narcissistic ego. Amanda became a full-blown psychopath.
i think you just had a shitty math teacher. ive never had a math teacher that had no idea how to solve the questions they presented.
What I think is the worst part about the needle pit is that the needles are used, which means that the ends are bent. These bent tips tear skin super easily going in and especially coming out.
Also, falling into the pit and rolling around it in would probably snap some needles while they were still in your skin.
yeah I don't know why they didn't just use the blankets like nets and just start pulling them out of the pit bit by bit. no one needed to even go in. just drag a blanket over the needles and lift it up see if one of them snagged the one they need and shake the rest off in a corner of the room or something and try again. if all of them are doing it they probably could of emptied the pit pretty quickly. the needles could of easily got stuck in the blankets and lifted away from the rest of the needles in the pit.
@@jaythewolf7216 the key point of the traps in this movie is that all of them were escapable if they could get past themselves and work together as a team since they were all in there because of their self centeredness
@@jaythewolf7216 They had a time limit, no way in heck were they going to be able to do what you described (which had they not had a time limit would have been a good idea.)
The key was attached to a glow stick
The Flammable Jelly is technically survivable, but Jigsaw doesn’t give enough info to figure it out. You’re meant to blow out the candle, as the actual code is written in glow-in-the-dark paint. You can then relight the candle with matches in the room to actually input the code.
wait were the numbers glow in the dark?
And then die when you accidentally drop the match
Easy in concept but wouldn't be in practice. Holding the candle is much safer than relighting it because of how much closer his hand would be to the matchbox. A single spark from lighting the match is all it would take to kill you.
just put the candle on the safe lol
@@jlo9993 how would you see the glow in the dark numbers
“All my traps are beatable”
*“Your next task is to successfully order an ice cream from the McDonalds ice cream machine.”*
"You must get the McDonald's icecream within an hour, or you will explode as I have planted an explosive device into your brain. Live or die, it's your choice." *goofy ahh laugh*
HOLD ON I ACTUACLY DID THAT WTF!!!??!!??!?!'1'1'1
go before 4 pm that's usually when we get slammed and it breaks (it doesn't break we need to mix more ice cream)
@@khelz_ nah lad, bottled it
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John Kramer: "I'm not a murderer, murder is bad."
Also John: "There is a knife inside of your spine and the only way to get it out is to disconnect your brainstem"
And he's right, technically he didnt killed any1, they just killed themselves by failing
To be honest you don't need to get your hands dirty to murder someone
@@YungDasIA maybe not under a minute
His entire philosophy makes sense but the way it goes it’s realistically not possible for people to survive a lot of most of these traps. It’s like sacrifice your spine to be permanently paralyzed and mentally immobile….. or you die digging into your stomach to remove a key deep in your stomach.
Technically he didn't kill them, he just caused them to die
I would actually be terrified to even be an ACTOR for these movies. Those traps can look a bit too realistic sometimes... O_o
Fun fact! Some of the traps were actually functional, that's why the reactions from the actors tend to be so realistic. Of course, they don't go to this extent but still. For example, the trap in Saw 3 with the twisting limbs, near the end? Yeah the machine actually did twist the actor's limbs, but stopped at a point to so he wouldn't be in pain. And the reverse beartrap also worked, not while it was on the actor's head, but by itself it does pop open as shown in the movie
@@mylilcupcake821 Wait, so that trap even while filming could have brutally killed the actor if the trap was rigged or accidentally started earlier? Or did it just not have enough force to crush a human's head?
@@hunlepto2239 Probably not enough force
They actually took the most EXTENSIVE measures to make this as safe as possible for the actors. It's what made these movies a bit more bearable for me. The behind the scenes clips look like a fun time. Anything that was more realistic or dangerous or stressful came with double, triple, quadruple checking for safety and wellness of the actors. They were ready to pull the plug at any moment. It's even better knowing these movies did not come at the expense of the actors yet still had the psychotic effect on the viewer
@@hunlepto2239 no, it didnt actually connect to the actors jaw
Is everyone forgetting the biggest part of all about the chains trap: The door was welded shut. Even if he did manage to pull his chains out in time by some miracle, he'd have 0 chances of escape. Everything around the room had been barricaded by tables and chairs, so no escaping through the windows, simply throwing the bomb away or having enough strength to surround yourself with enough tables to survive such a blast. Theoretically speaking, even if he tried breaking the glass jar and throwing the bomb into a corner of the room AND hid behind enough cover, he'd still die from sheer blood loss before anyone could cut through the door in time. *This trap was impossible and rigged from the start, just like all the rest that were left off the list.*
I'm pretty sure John didn't make that trap tho but idr alot of the impossible traps were not made by john
@@lovesdbdkiller That's exactly what I was thinking. I think this was mostly Amanda due to the poor construction of it all and Hoffman since John wouldn't be strong enough to move all those desks. I don't know why HS thinks John would've had a part in this one.
Wasn't that guy supposed to be the one who caused Hoffmans sisters death? I"m fairly certain it was a Hoffman trap and not escapable
@@redtailedhawkdude The guy who killed Hoffmans sister was in the pendulum trap (Saw V i think) and it was a Hoffman trap and it was impossible to survive.
@@nuklear1571 I haven't seen the movies in years honestly I'm surprised I remembered something
Amanda set up Adam's trap too. She threw the key randomly and caused it to go down the drain. Amanda kept setting up unwinnable games like Kerry's angel trap and of course the classroom with the door welded shut. I think in the first trap, Adam was supposed to be able to free roam the bathroom, but Amanda obviously threw a wrench in that with the key...
Not saying you’re wrong, but if Adam was able to be freed, he would’ve been able to shoot John at the end instead of being shocked by the chain.
@@Semelemwrong
Jigsaw: all my traps are beatable.
Also Jigsaw: rip your jaw out please ☺️
Well he s said they were beatable, not survivable
@@sparkyphantom92 true but you can't beat it if you can't stay alive along to complete it in the first place by design so he has a point
It's a trap made by Amanda, not Kramer
You find out in I think saw 4 Amanda was cheating the players and not giving them a far chance because she thought what's the point they won't change they will just do the same thing
@@sparkyphantom92 true
"My doctor had a shitty beside manner, that's why you, a person with an addiction problem that has never met me, has been kidnapped. And now have to prove to me you want to live (not that you were suicidal but just didn't have the zest for life I think you should have) by crippling yourself in an incredibly painful way. Btw I'm not responsible." J.Kramer
Lmao! Pretty much 🤣
"Btw I'm not responsible" 🤣💀
At first, Jigsaw had good reasons for wanting to put people in these traps, but as the series/torture goes on, he just turned completely delusional lol
@@loremipsum980 what were these good reasons ?? he literally put a guy in a trap cause he called in sick for work when he really wasn’t 💀💀
@@nanarana4646 I see, Jigsaw takes the Jeff Bezos approach regarding workers rights
John: "I just want them to redeem themselves"
Everyone: "Cool motive, still murder"
Look some people deserve to die ok thats just how it is
True 💀
Nice B99 reference
Noice
@@winniemaereact1391 Smort
Jigsaw: "my traps are beatable"
The trap: "all you have to do it's a lobotomy reaching the center of your brain, pick the key inside it, unlock the bomb inside your heart, then put a combination of 23 numbers on the lock to make the door open. You have 0,0005 seconds for this. Live or die, make your choice"
thats crazy real
I feel like the moment he says "Go", you'd turn into a wallpaper. Literally paint.
Love the movies, but kid napping people and putting them in life threatening situations where survival is possible if played correctly is still murder. It always bugs me when John says he never murdered anyone.
it wasn’t direct murder if you think about it , but yes technically he is a murderer and what he did was sick
Like when he poisons people like how is that not murder ahahah. I get the idea that he gives people the choice but his philosophy is a bit skewed.
"You have to slice your artery to find the key I hid in your nutsack, you have 45 seconds before the poison I injected in your neck kills you"
*dies of blood loss*
"I didnt murder him, he chose it"
@@scrufflesde-brickashaw333 what's the sauce of you pfp man
That's kinda the point though, he has a really twisted and hypocritical sense of morality
9:59 look away? I remember people yelling "knock her the F*** out so she cant yell!" in the cinema lol
They smart tho
Yea
Jesus loves you repent and believe onto Him and be saved from eternal punishment, amen, Jesus DIED + SUFFERED 4U on the cross!
@@Fit4C
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what
@@Fit4C yes so remember to sin or jesus died for nothing
I kind of want a SAW film where Jigsaw says “I want to play a game” and then It cuts to him and the victim yelling at each other over monopoly
I just snorted so hard I think I pulled something xD
Watch Scary Movie 4 and you'll be very pleased with the Saw part of it
@@gengarcrobat1576 Thanks for the tip
Petition to get this movie made.
cringe
Most of the unbeatable traps were set by Hoffman and Amanda. John Kramer wanted people to have the chance to escape. So any of these unbeatable traps weren’t him unless they were personal.
Most of his traps needed "movie magic" for them to survive the injuries, had two individuals with unequal chances of living a trap, or even not making the person in the trap make a personal sacrifice.
even if they did escaped they will just fell unconscious and then bleE Ed out to dea. th.
I honestly feel like the inclusion of Amanda and Hoffman was for this very purpose: so now whenever someone goes: "that trap is unwinnable!" The writers can just blame it on one of these two
_“I’ve never murdered anyone in my life”_
*Murders a couple SWAT officers by electrocuting them when they attempted to go up a flight of stairs to get to Jigsaw*
I have no idea which games are more deadlier😅Squid Game or Saw
@@avatar5811 saw lmao
@KitchensAreHot Saw does it more brutal though
“They made that choice to step on my stairs officer, I did not kill them”
@@avatar5811 saw because in squid you can actually live if you get majority vote
The candle trap is probably the most annoying one because Jigsaw himself made it unbeatable but he loathes Amanda and Mark for doing the same 🤷♂️
Its actually not, it is really one of the easier ones in the series. the numbers for the safe are written larger than the other numbers and backwards, so its not as hard as most people think. Saw needed to explain that better I think.
edit: I would like to apologize I was wrong about that, but I did find the solution I think. The numbers needed are not in the same pattern as the others. for example the 8 you can find in this clip ua-cam.com/video/aD67ZUShE0Y/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ItWasYourTest at 1:06 so just find the numbers that break sequence.
The jelly trap is stupid as hell in its entirety. The guy called in sick when he wasn't, and that's apparently punishable by Saw trap.
@@plattbagarn meanwhile rapists and serial killers vibing in being safe
@@plattbagarn I believe it was actually intended for him to be claiming disability checks when he wasn't disabled not just playing hooky, but your point still stands pretty much like. Dude just report him for disability fraud. You don't need to put these people in traps. Put people who are actively severely hurting others but evading/working around the law in these traps, maybe?? This dude is just kinda a piece of shit but you can report him. Or maybe he is actually disabled and its an invisible disability, man. You can't possibly know someone's whole life story. He could be legitimately disabled and its just not obvious.
@@thesayerofthelaw In that situation though, nobody would stand a chance. Walking on broken glass barefoot pitch darkness it’s a very hard game. Definitely not as straightforward as Amandas.
Jigsaw be like "all you have to do is hold the flashlight for you dad without him yelling"
All you have to do is pass your dad the right size screwdriver when he asks
Nah man that's unfair even for jigsaws standards
Hell you ass tweaking jigsaw
Jigsaw:"You did something bad so if you survive my almost unbeatable trap, you'll appreciate and enjoy life more"
Surviors with trauma, PTSD, panic attacks and anxiety:👍
I don't think Jigsaw actually believes that. He just wants to find a vaguely 'moral' reason to torture people.
@@lockpickrogue-yc5wc I think he actually said that in one movie
Also live having a mutilated body
Oh remember if you have mental illness like depression, that gets you put into a trap as well.
Like the nurse at the in saw 3. Took antidepressants which means in jigsaws world, you don’t appreciate life
@@ComicWriter-ml3qt seems fair. Why use chemical pills in order to fake enjoying life, when Jigsaw can torture you for free and hammer in a moral about enjoying your life more?
John Kramer: "Everybody deserves a chance!!"
All the people in Bobby's test in Saw 7, all of William's coworkers in Saw 6, the people involved in the car accident in Jeff's game in Saw 3 and many more: "Hold up...!!"
Some of those weren't even made by John lol
And the guy drugged in Amanda's first trap, all he could do is feel how she kills him to get the key.
@Very Kinky QoS Goth You're thinking of the Chain Reaction trap in Saw 3D; the car accident in Jeff's game refers to those involved in the accident that killed Jeff's son.
They all technically did have a chance - unfortunately, said chance was reliant on others (e.g. Amanda's cellmate's chance of survival was if she didn't cut the key out of his stomach)
@Very Kinky QoS Goth right forgot that one. There everyone except the one in the car was able to do anything
What I'd love to see would be a "Jigsaw, the Failure" movie, where every single one of his victims does the most likely: Fade out, when the pain starts to grow strong. Or completely loses the mind in a panic attack. Or ruins survival-essential parts of the trap by puking on it. Reactions, that would make Jigsaw seriously question his talent for predicting human behaviour.
Not a perfect example, but that sort of happened in Jigsaw with the guy that didn't wake up with everyone else. There were a lot of traps triggered by people freaking out and usually the dead bodies were found eventually, so it seems like some of them so long as you just didn't move you might not even start a test. But I would probably flail about too haha
@@stevejenks9940 Then how about this: "Ha! Jigsaw, you idiot. Didn't you know? I'm suicidal. I just didn't have the guts to get it done. So thank you! Now all I need to do, is to lean back and wait.".
@@karstenvoigt7280 "hmm cut out my eyes or slit my wrists.... welp, this is easy"
I would get to the 10 pints trap and be like nope, not in the slightest, nope, and then put my head next to one of the bombs so at least my death is instantaneous
@@ashleajon lo same
Bruh, I think most people would rather die than do this shit. I'll wait to explode I don't give a damn.
The thing is, why would I want unbearable pain when I can have sweet nothingness? (Plus I won't have to pay taxes anymore so Jigsaw kinda doing me a solid ngl)
i don’t think they were ready for this generation of nihilists
Like the guy who had to rip his eye out, if i was him i'll just slit my throat and make Jigsaw punch the air
How do u know what happens after tho
@@mike04574 nothing happens. you die and either get turned to ash or shoved in a box
@@scarlokian nice one there
With the bedroom trap, I think the easiest way to get through it was to hit both triggers at the same time, taking out both the eyes at the same time so the pain isn’t extended more than it has to be
Move your head as far forward or to one side as you can, then push the buttons. Every single trap in Saw history can be cheated.
he mentioned your head is in a vice, you cant move it far enough in any direction to get out of the way@@sethmcavoy1800
@@sethmcavoy1800He couldn’t move because Rigg had Ivan’s head stuck with the machine in order to kept his head from moving side to side
@@sethmcavoy18009:02 “his head is fixed by a vise”
Wouldn't you have to deal with the possibility of dying from the pain?
For the flammable jelly trap, I think the reason it is so difficult is that Kramer himself suffers from cancer and knows how painful being that I’ll truly is. So because the guy in the trap fakes being ill, Kramer would naturally be resentful of him, to the point his standard procedure of making his traps winnable is thrown to the side in favor of his own sense of justice.
Or it’s just a plot hole. Who knows?
Yeah, tbh I would probably try all the combinations, keep the candle far away from me and try not to move. Save more energy for my body to fight the poison. Less risk of being cut on glass and the obvious less risk of being burned alive.
@@rav0nn trying all of those combinations within the duration the universe has lest to live is impossible, there are at least 1000 numbers in that room, and assuming that the length of the lock is 6 inputs, you would die of hunger before you could get through 0.1% of all the possible combinations.
I agree with you, I just wanted to add that this is another point in the column of John being a giant hypocrite who often doesn't follow the rules of his own games. I think this is really firmly established in the first movie when Adam not only wins his game, he expresses an intense desire to live, but he's still left to die anyway. That's because the game was meant for Lawrence and John doesn't actually care what happens to the incidental players (Allison, Diana, Zepp, Tapp, and Adam) as long as his original target plays the game "properly".
I hate the fact that Jigsaw gave Amanda one of the easiest traps where she didn't even have to harm herself.
But when it's her turn to be Jigsaw, she has the absolute nerve to rig the traps to be unbeatable. If surviving her test actually rehabilitated her, why did she think the same thing wouldn't happen to her victims?
She was manipulated so much by John and really wanted to be like him, but she still felt like she didn't deserve the "redemption" she got, so she kinda projected onto her victims by believing that they don't deserve a second chance and should die. She really was just horribly mentally ill, not that I'm excusing her actions but that's why she did it
Wait what was her trap?
@@dan584 Cut open some guy to get the key for the reverse bear trap
@@rud5101 Yeah, its in the first movie @Dan :)
Almost makes me think deep down, Amanda wasn't rehabilitated. Maybe her traps were a message to herself that she shouldn't have survived.
The trap that bothered me most is one from saw 3D, the brazen bull one. The entire point of it was that the trap was unbeatable, given that he lied about surviving the same trap and that his pectoral muscles couldn't support his weight, even John basically tells him that in the audio. So he was deemed to fail and his girlfriend be burned alive. She was the only innocent person there, the only one who knew nothing about him being a fraud. So this was an execution of an innocent person to teach that guy a lesson?
John designed this trap and chose the victims so it definitely went against his ''I never killed enyone'' , ''murder is disgusting to me''.
Unless he cheated it was unbeatable and how was he supposed to know by cheating he won't activate the brazen bull. I don't get why that woman had to die in such a horrible way when she didn't wrong anybody.
That is kind of the point with John's character. He's a hypocrite. He's so convinced in his own crazy idea of "rehabilitation" that he can't even admit when his methods are killing innocents. He doesn't think of himself as a murderer just because he technically is not the one holding the weapon.
That trap actually had a way to beat it without hooking himself. He more or less could have hooked his pants instead, or stood on the hooks instead.
If I'm not mistaken tho I think Hoffman made that trap but I could be wrong.
@@nexusshark That ties perfectly into the whole mindset of "I didn't murder anyone, I just pressed a button because I was told to do it" scheme. I think it's really interesting to talk about whether that makes someone a murderer or not. Personally, I think it does.
@@nexusshark he’s delusional.
The true unbeatable traps were not designed by Kramer. Amanda and Hoffman did not care if the traps were survivable or not. Granted, Jigsaw did have some REALLY hard traps to survive where someone can easily die even with the ‘Will to survive’. Let’s also not forget how some games include murdering other people, when they are helpless to save themselves.
It's clear that a) Jigsaw doesn't play test his traps to ensure they are beatable within the time limit, and b) that he considers setting up one person for failure in a two-person trap... somehow NOT murder
@@pringlebatch yea. I'm kinda upset about the insurance company games, where the player needs to choose between an elderly woman and a single lonely young man to die.
Not to mention that part where the 2 survivors needs to give 5lb of blood.
At the end they realized that all of the rooms would have been easy if they work together from the beggining.
None of them would have died
For the circular saw trap: Remember that 10 pints is just 1.5 gallons of liquid.If all of the participants chipped in by collecting water or other bodily fluids( other than blood in the trap) they would’ve been been better off. If for instance, each person peed into the trap, would’ve at least reduced the blood loss necessary. As for the key…
THAT WAS MY FIRST THOUGHT! Urinate as much as possible before shedding blood. Stick your fingers down your throat and throw up. Throw small objects or scraps of clothing in, etc.
Other people have suggested the bodily fluids thing but the supervisor of the games probably would have shut that down and killed them anyway. Like technically it’s cheating
@@moviesetc9501 no it’s not because who would be watching them though
YMS already said that
True
I watched the first two Saw-movies with a friend and she actually had a very interesting idea why Jigsaw was like that:
It was never his intention to actually have beatable traps. He just wanted to punish people, but he musters out who should have a survival-chance and who not. Everyone who doesn't have a survival-chance in his opinion he gives the illusion of freedom, lurking him in the last hope just to be destroyed even more (If someone watched "Fate/Zero" (Terrible anime to be honest, but with very interesting ideas), you can compare that to Bluebeards speak of why he let the kid go just to kill him off with a tentaclemonster while he was reaching the door). Also it gives everyone the illusion that Jigsaw gives everyone a chance.
This was best shown with Adams key - Adam was meant to be killed in the very beginning, Jigsaw stated that in Gordons tape. The mentioning with the key was just Jigsaw saying "You had a chance, you let it slip", creating the illusion Adam had a chance to flee while actually he never had.
Thinking it further, he might actually have more of a problem with his students not because they were rigging the game - But because they were rigging it too obviously.
So in this case, Jigsaw is a murderer, and he knows it. He is just a sadistic mastermind giving the illusion he "frees" people, while sometimes actually freeing people (if it was his intention or not is another thing).
This. I love this!
Like a flashback within a flashback, you used parenthesis WITHIN parenthesis
TF is wrong with fate zero
Fate Zeeo is great. Especially Fate Stay Night and Unlimited Blade Works.
I know you just didn’t shit on fate zero one of my favorite anime series 😭😭
The tongue one in Spiral was also pretty much unbeatable, had he ripped his whole tongue off he'd have probably bled out to death way before he could leave and look for help
Plus the tongue is connected to the jaw so if he did try ripping his tongue out his whole jaw would’ve came out
Yes, the traps in Spiral are meant to be unbeatable, the guy is taking revenge on the dirty cops that killed his father, makes sense he wants them dead.
He could've cut the tip of his tongue off with the barbed wire
@@gamiac4777 or bit down on his tongue until it was severed
Bite it off so then less blood gets lost
The tooth puzzle is impossible because you will likely scratch off the numbers from your teeth while trying to rip them out. Your best shot is to try and feel the shape with your finger, then guess the code.
Was it on the exposed tooth? Because if do you can press your finger on it and it'll imprint the number for a few seconds and you can do it that way.
I don’t get why people where so shocked by the needle trap, i found the twisting limbs trap much worse to look at (where his legs and arms and eventually his neck starts twisting) i forgot the name of the trap but it’s from Saw 3 i believe
Well I can't speak for others. I can say that perspective is particularly important. I have an unusual phobia of needles. I still (at 30) stuff my face in a pillow in Pulp Fiction when they give her the adrenaline. I am fully aware of how nonsensical this fear is. Needless to say, that needle scene was absolutely terrifying for me. I only remember the beginning of it when they are looking at the pit, I went into another room for that scene. I can handle people getting sliced open, organs oozing out of wounds, pretty much anything you can think of... but not needles... it's fuckin weird.
@@anthonyfaiell3263 I forgot there exists such a thing as a phobia for needles, that’s understandable. Okay, i cringed a bit at the needle scene but i almost felt my own limbs get twisted when i was watching the respective scene. The dude had to sacrifice his both hands (i think) if he wanted to free himself from it, so he would end up getting them crushed completely. He was a cop
The rack
@@hvr. the rack, yes
The Rack is the worst one tbh.
Any traps Amanda made hahah
Or Hoffman.
Or Shenk
@@thomasoates3003 Not all Hoffman traps were unbeatable.
@@jaynyce5923 Rigg's test and the Coffin come to mind, but the bulk were, such as the Pendulum Trap.
facts lol
Towards the final movies, the traps seemed to get really unfair, and it never made sense to me e.g. William Easton had to kill people to win his games. But I guess even the first film had Amanda kill to get her key?
It seems weird that John put so much emphasis on living through your trap, but anyone involved in your trap was just a throwaway set piece. Do they get a tape too? "Hey, in 3 minutes someone is gonna bust in here and kill you for the key in your guts. Try to poop it out and you get to live..."
They were purposely like that, it was mo longer jigsaw
@@etangbose4755 that's what I thought, but does that mean John knew Hoffman would start making unfair traps, and so told Jill to kill him?
The willaim Easton was a comment on the health system in America so I guess it kinda makes sense and there's also a theory that the guy Amanda killed failed his test already and that was his punishment
John was gone after saw 3. It was Hoffman.
@mrdoe97 oh it's definitely still murder. What John does is murder lol. I guess it's supposed to make you think about real life and how companies see people
The reason the bathroom trap for Adam is unbeatable is not cause of John but it's due to Amanda. They retroactively explain it but it does explain why it went down the drain while Lawrence had his key.
It's actually explained that most of the unbeatable trap are not due to John but instead it's his disciples. I think the only exception is Lawrence. He's the only desciple that makes the traps actually beatable.
What did that photographer guy do to deserve such punishment. He was a creep, sure, but nowhere a criminal.
Then again, nor the doctor. The saw franchise makes no sense.
@@hannibalburgers477 I don’t remember. I would have to rewatch the movie again.
If anything you can watch a video from CZs World. He makes great videos about horror movies.
@@hannibalburgers477 Gordon was having an affair for 5 months. & Adam didn't value his life. He was also spying on numerous people.
Explain how Saw III had beatable traps during Jeff's run. JEFF got to choose who lives and who dies. The victims didn't get a free shot of winning. And before you use the "he didn't know it was Amanda" excuse, HE HIMSELF SETS UP THE LAST TRAP WHERE AN INNOCENT KID DIES BECAUSE JEFF DIDNT FORGIVE HIM. That's the end of the movie and the whole point is that Kramer was testing Jeff with this. So did the kid have a fair chance of escaping their fate? I don't think so.
@@filipferencak2717 you didn’t read what I wrote. When John does the traps they are beatable. When his disciples do the traps they are unbeatable, again with the exception of Lawrence.
Virtually all the trap victims in III died as a result of Jeff being slow & being terrible. Jeff failed his test. But his daughter survives. She was a part of another test. His daughter was being held somewhere else but she wasn’t in a trap.
I got addicted to your Saw analysis a few weeks ago. I just can’t get enough of these!
as someone who also did, same,
even though i get scared at night, cause my imaginations go wild (i'm not exactly tolerant to torture movies), i still find these really interesting and addicting, who knows, maybe if i watch enough of these i become more used to it and less scared, i don't really know lol
Jesus loves you repent and believe onto Him and be saved from eternal punishment, amen, Jesus DIED + SUFFERED 4U on the cross!
@@Fit4C yea we know Asmon
My main complaint for the Tooth pulling trap is, 2/4 of my wisdom teeth, when removed by professionals, shattered into pieces. So idk, seems like a damned if you do damned if you dont
i mean if your wisdom teeth are impacted they purposefully cut or break them into chunks so they can remove the crown and then roots seperately so its a less invasive incision
I used to have three wisdom teeth, had to remove one when it was starting to impact in my jaw and let me tell you, even if you're under the laughing gas smell and the anesthesia is injected into you, you still hear the crack during the whole works and feel the pain afterwards. Not pleasant either way, especially if it breaks at the root and only one part comes out before they have to pull the other root out.
I'd be screwed because I don't have any wisdom teeth.
@@spectrumscribble1498 damn. They shot me up with ketamine for mine so* i was unconscious the whole time. Had to have a ride home lol. The recovery sucked tho.
Mine were divided too, but i’ve got a better question. How did Jigsaw apply these numbers on Bobby’s teeth without removing them first?
For the flammable jelly trap, you don't even need to move to beat it. It's one of those left-right-left combination locks which can easily be cracked just by spinning slowly and listening/feeling for the clicks. Obviously if it's a better designed one, that won't work, but you can still brute force it by hand algorithmically, it might just take a little while and I don't think there's any time limit to that one.
Doubt you can brute force your way in the safe. Don't know exactly about the one in the movie, but one usually need to input 4 combinations of 2 digit numbers that range from 00 to 99. This means there are 100,000,000 combinations possible. If you can put a combination in 12 seconds constantly, it would take more than 38 years for you to go through every single combination.
@@HoradeFidges 1) In the movie it's a three-combination left-right-left dial lock, not four
2) The safe looks like a shitty safe, even by 2004 standards. Those old, cheap models were cheap because they used less fine machining standards, and so there are non-trival limits to how close each number can be to the last, meaning there are entire zones you can rule out just based on what number you last checked.
3) There's also a forbidden zone on the third entry of the combination, which means 20+ numbers can be ruled out on the last check.
While it may look like a dial safe has 100^n combinations to check (100^3 here), in practice it is quite a bit less than that. Combined with the audible clues you'd get from an old safe like this, you may only have to check 30,000 combinations unless the combo was specifically chosen to maximize the amount of time to brute force. That's maybe 16-20 hours depending on how quick you can put in a combo - which should be much less than 12 seconds, idk where you got that from, might only take 2 or 3, if that: say closer to 30 hours if you want to account for your hand getting tired. That sounds about right, just checking some ads from around that time and a lot of them list "can resist up to 20 hours of manual manipulation!" as a selling point. So yeah, brute forcing is a very viable method in the SAW trap situation.
@@RangersGirlJackie99 I love everything you just said. Besides the fact that there was indeed a bit of a time limit. Man’s had poison running through his veins for probs a few hours at the least. Who knows how long he would’ve lasted if he hadn’t burned to death
@@reivoidwalker still way higher chances of survival than walking around, stepping on glass, risking to slip on your own blood and light yourself on fire, trying to guess a code from just an unbelievably hard puzzle on the walls. This way, you're not putting yourself in any more danger than you already are in, it's not hard, not complicated at all, it's just boring.
He could have gotten lucky, you know? That's like the main reason of brute forcing a code combination - hoping to get it rather quickly. You can estimate how much time it will take at max and that number is rather intimidating, but the min is like... immediately? You never know, every next input can be the last one and your chances are only going higher and higher the longer you do it.
Oh, and, wild guess, but I think dying from poisoning might be better then burning. Like, if you know you'll most likely die, wouldn't you want to go with a least painful option?
@@heilinstarling9436 Yeah, he did have options, they just weren't very good options. I'd definitely get rid of the candle rather than put it close to my flammable oil-covered body.
tbh the death mask thing was one of the most uh... uncomfortable traps for me lol (i hate thinking about the eye, i dont like visitting ophthalmologist and basically any surgery or doing anything around the eye so its really 💀 for me)
Me too. My eyesight is also really bad so I need both eyes working together, the thought of losing even one eye is terrifying.
Don't forget how Jigsaw literally for no reason put a smoker into a trap against a non smoker where you have to hold your breath to survive.
Okay that is murder
@@thezootycooner And all the other traps aren't?
That trap was "comade" by Hoffman, who made most of his traps impossible. So its likely that Hoffman was the one that decided that, Kramer probably just designed the trap without victims in mind.
I could be wrong though,
That one was hard for me because I have asthma and definitely can’t hold my breath long at all!
Oh there was a very specific reason for that. The whole movie is about being sentenced to death by insurance providers. John was 52 when he got declined and the smoker was also 52. Not only this but its the same outcome. The smoker had a death sentence against a person who could breath normally, he had no chance to win. Which was the point of the first test.
So yea, the smoker really got screwed over here, but there were definite reasons for it.
One of the movie franchises I can die comfortably without seeing. Very intriguing but intense. This video is the closest I’ve gotten to it. Somethings aren’t so easy to forget
Me either. They are too gross
Wouldn't recommend it. Not because they're super intense, but because the quality continuously drops with (almost) each subsequent film.
@@WolfGr33d that’s normal for 99% of all franchises
@@WolfGr33d sure but sometimes the plot twists are CRAZY
Honestly the first one isn’t that intense, especially for horror movie standards.
The needle trap was by far the most uncomfortable trap to watch
And the one where the guy had to fish a key with a hook outside a woman's body
All of them were uncomfortable to watch 😂
The paralyse trap in the new one is horrible to watch too
@@davidjsaul Yeah
Yeah considering a phobia with needles I find that shit so uncomfortable but also disgusting because the needles were USED.
Actually in Saw 3, almost all traps were designed by Amanda's John's follower and self-proclaimed successor. She made the traps unbeatable because she thought people didm't deserve to win. As for Hoffman's traps, they were survivable but they were far too brutal
I just can't imagine being able to convince yourself "he can survive after scooping his eyeball out" or something to that degree or higher. Then again, John is clearly already an extremely unwell man lmao
I get the impression he doesn't know what blood loss is
@@BookWyrmOnAStringHis character technically does. Near fatal bloody car crash is what sorta set him on this crazy ass path. Still a psycho but does know blood loss 😂
The cutting out the eye would be survivable. The blood vessels going to the eye are small. That's why so many people have lost an eye in an incredibly traumatic way and lived.
What gets me is that damn X-ray. It shows the position of the key as upright. The ocular cavity tapers like a cone, so the key couldn't possibly be directly behind the eye and upright but still inside the ocular cavity. The only way that X-ray makes sense is if the key behind the ocular cavity entirely. So, either in the cranial cavity snuggled up on the frontal lobe of the brain OR behind his head entirely.
It would be insane if it's that last one. Dude cuts out his eye and there is no key because it was an elaborate troll/murder.
My grandfather wore glasses because apparently a cannon blew up right at his face, damaging one of his eye. (Not in army. The town i lived fired cannons to welcome one of the statesman in 60's) He told me they scooped his eye out to remove fragments. So by using the back side of the scalpel, it may be possible
Look up Andre Thomas Texas inmate on death row. He gouged his own eyes out in Prison. The Venus Fly trap could have been survived.
The classroom trap wasn't done by John. The door was welded shut. There was no escape or the dude, even if he did somehow get the ring out of his jaw. That is not a John Kramer trap that is an Amanda trap. Her traps were 100% unbeatable.
Yeah you’re right!! Ugh I’ve seen each of these movies at least 4 times by now yet I still make these mistakes… but yeah now that you mention it I remember Kerry saying “the door was welded shut… even if he freed himself he couldn’t escape”. This makes it a completely rigged trap.
@@HitStartYT It happens to us all, there's a lot of traps to deal with after all lol. It was just a side comment, that can be easily missed of forgotten, after all.
For the flammable jell one I would have taken a dull shard of glass and used it to scrape some gel off, especially around my face hands and forearm
That's not a bad idea, might get cut, but it's better than burning to death
yeah, me too.
Exactly what I was thinking! It annoys me so much 😂
A good idea.
I do wonder how long it would take to remove the gel, as it looked like the glass was all in small piece. Also, I can't remember where I heard this from (been way too long) , but it is possible that Jigsaw glued most of the glass to the floor. But I didn't see an adhesive material with the glass.
There is still the whole safe to unlock before the poison would have killed the guy too.
I don’t think that would work but I’d be worth the try better than not doing it
The needle pit is the one that I always think of when I think of saw movies. Terrifying.
Forgetting the fact it was impossible to escape, the chain trap is probably the one I would least want to do out of any trap in the series. Watching him rip the chains through his achilles makes me cringe every time. Then the chain through his jaw just tops it off and waiting for the timer to count down to die is the only viable option because screw that
What makes it worse for me to watch is that Troy isn’t as bad of a person as some of the other test subjects. The rationale is just that he’s a repeat petty offender or something. But when you compare him to the rapists and neo nazis that were tested (who I don’t feel sorry for lol) it really makes me feel bad for him. He looks genuinely scared throughout the scene and I feel so bad for the guy, he tries so hard to escape but it was futile. Just adds to how unwatchable that scene is. 😔
@@allyflint1807 what did Roy do?
Well the chain trap guy was just dumb af, if i woke up and felt/saw all those things in me, first thing i'd see is if there is a gap to take the one on my jaw out, as soon as i see there is no way i'd just sit there waiting for the bomb, why hurt myself when it's meaningless?
@@allyflint1807 I don't see a reason why you wouldn't feel sorry for a Neo nazi ? If he didn't kill ,rape nor abuse anyone then who gives a shit if he supports an immoral ideology
I mean you could try to disarm the nail bomb by knocking it off the table
Unbeatable traps were created by Amanda Young. Classroom trap, Angel Trap were designed by Amanda for the victims execution, rather than their “rebirth”
Some were by hauffman too. Like the pendulum. The bathtub key was also her
She also sabotaged the bathroom game
@@707Tyreei think hoffman’s only unbeatable trap was the pendulum because he wanted to kill the murderer of his sister
@@jrrs80 true
The entire Saw III movie is full of traps where people are literally rigged to die no matter what and it's done by Jigsaw himself. Jeff picks who gets to live and the victims are left entirely at his mercy. But yeah, I'm sure the victims thought the traps were beatable.
I remember hearing somewhere that Amanda placed Adam's key, hence why its put in such a shitty place. I don't remember who said that though sooo I dunno if its true.
I think in one of the flashbacks, it does show Amanda setting the trap for adam
@{ Gacha_Spade } Wait, in all of the movies? She def killed more people lol
@@noblerook Yeah, it's heavily implied that Amanda prepared the classroom trap, too, hence why it's unbeatable. the same goes for the ribcage trap as there was no way Agent Kerry could remove the things from her body. Amanda was just a shitty person.
@@Ermac97 depends how you look at it. Watch amandas history video from another UA-camr (can't think of his name) and you'll probably have more sympathy for her and understand why she did some of the stuff. I got mad at her when i first saw her traps and stuff but knowing the full picture she's not all bad
In a Saw 3 flashback they showed setting up the bathroom trap. She put him in the tub, started the water and just tossed the key onto his chest. He was still alive when she went into the bathroom to mercy kill him cuz she felt bad for him. That was before she lost it and killed people in inescapable traps like Troy on Saw 3 and Kerry in Saw 3. But Hoffman was in on atleast the Kerry trap. Maybe he helped with the classroom trap too but it's not really stated for that one
People tends to forget that Jigsaw traps are constantly being watched from cameras by Him or his helpers, so its way too hard to find ways out the box to defeat them when you are being watched
One thing about the candle trap to make it easier. Instead of walking directly on top of the glass shards, just use your hand to shove it out of the way.
You still can't win except you're extremely lucky by input the right combination in the first try.
that would waste time tho
@@erina8295 move quickly
@@erina8295 shit you're gonna be needing less cuts on your feet than your hands to survive, so chop chop!
@@shantasiahaynes4490 this is like telling someone that is dying to just not die bruh
Well the classroom trap was built to be inescapable and he was basically meant to die. Amanda built her traps that way due to her belief that they didn't deserve second chances like John gave them if they succeeded. So in that film all of her traps were inescapable.
So all of Johns traps you could escape but at a huge cost, just Amanda's, then towards end others too, weren't; but especially Amanda's as she built them 100% inescapable.
Yeah and people call Kramer psycho
Which is utter bs because Amanda got the most chances of anyone.
meanwhile, amanda had the easiest trap of all. she didn't even have to hurt herself, just kill a complete stranger. . .
I'd say Logan is an exception, especially in the last trap. He gave Halloran a chance to live (sparing Logan and confessing to his wrongdoings), and Halloran blew it. He was probably the only one to truly stick to Jigsaw's ideology.
So a few things to take into account:
1. In regards to the Venus Flytrap from Saw II, the game Saw II: Flesh and Blood shows that this trap actually is beatable, you would just need to cut the stitching on your eye and you would be able to reach the key.
2. In Saw III, Saw IV, & Saw V, both the Angel Wings/Rib Spreader Trap and the Classroom Trap are 2 of the traps determined to have to have been done by a 2nd accomplice as it is noted that John Kramer himself would have been too sick at that point to set up the traps and Amanda would not have the physical capabilities.
This. It is even shown in Saw 3d where the doctor from the first film is shown sewing the key behind that guys eye. Granted, it would be painful, but if you could work thru the pain to get to the key....
Jigsaw already gave you a knife for the Flytrap. Just cut the leather straps and get to a doctor.
1:42 - I never understood the “broken glass” sound effects or why people think there’s any glass in the pit. All of those syringes are plastic as almost all modern syringes are.
This movie is from the early 2000's. The syringes were from even earlier. Decades earlier even. It's not out of the question they were glass.
All of Amanda’s traps were unbeatable she purposely wanted her victims dead. Like that one trap with the girl and the acid she had to get the key out before the timer went or her chest was gonna open up and Amanda walked in at the last minute and tricked it cs she got the key out in time and the key wasn’t even for that trap.
Yeah he said that
In the flammable jelly trap he could have actually tried dozens of things like
1 Killing the candle to see if the correct numbers light up in darkness somewhere on the wall (there are matches on the table he could have reignited the candle), at the end of the scene it also turns out that there has been a hole on one of the walls the whole time through which a ray of light got in the room but which was only visible if you killed the candle, that ray of light could have pointed at the correct numbers in total darkness, he could have walked up lit up the candle again and read the numbers
2 Slowly walk around the room and hold the candle close enough to all the numbers to see if some of them change colour in reaction to heat or light
3 wipe some of the jelly off his body and throw it in one of the corners then gently throw a lighting match at it to see better
4 make himself puke because he was told he had been poisoned but it acts slowly and there is no time limit
5 try inputting a few random combinations and hope one of them works, the numbers on the wall are random anyway so it’s a waste of time to walk up to them one by one
6 the room is not fully shown but there must be an entrance somewhere, try braking that down and get something he can pry open the vault with or at the least wipe the jelly off his body with the doorway also provides light
7 it’s not mentioned either where this room is so it can easily be that it opens straight to civilization like to a public road where he could get help from or run straight to a hospital and say he had been poisoned with something
So this trap might not be impossible at all we are just not provided with enough detail on it
This is your brain on SAW movies.
The proble is that this is pretty much the only trap like this. Every other have strict rules on what to do, except this one that is too confusing
Wasn't the hole there because that's where he was being watched from, so during the trap the hole would be covered by the camera or the observer.
All of this requires you not to be under stress though and pressure. Plus this would take too much time. He should have gave him more time. Doing all this in 1 or 2 mins is impossible.
He could wipe the flammable jelly on his fingers with his teeth so candle couldn't burn him
0:14 "I did lock a guy who was suffering from a gunshot wound in a dirty bathroom forever. But that doesn't count. Also, I cut a cop's throat, but I somehow knew he'd be ok"
Jigsaw:Your final challenge let you bih go through your phone
Black guy: nah yo tweakin jigsaw
No way
Lol
Unbeatable.
Your final task: Let your spouse see your cellular device.
Bollocks, mate! You oughta be bloody delusional Jigsaw!
@@ilikedanhp9651 LMAO
"I've never killed anyone, i'm not a murderer"
You put them in situations where it was either maim themselves permanently or death John, you can ride that high horse all day but that shit ain't gonna hold up for a fucking SECOND in court
I still can't wrap my head around how Amanda was able to get out of the reverse bear trap in 60 seconds while the on-screen time was more than 60 seconds. I don't remember anyone else being given so little time as well. So how did she do it or am I missing something?
it's just movie magic. Also Jigsaw paralyzed that other person in the room and allowed Amanda to murder him in order to save herself. so jigsaw doesn't murder he sets other people up to do though.
**plot armor**
You're ignoring how the editing distorted time by showing some of the footage in fast motion... oh wait that means she used up even more time. A wizard did it.
Hoffman got the reverse bear trap off his head as well, though. Similar amount of time too.
@@tily5939so literally murder? Im not sure how this will be judged in court but its literally forcing someone to murder a person
I always liked saw 2 the best for some reason, something about a group of people going through a house full of traps and being timed to escape is just fun to watch. I wish there were more movies like it
I liked the trap parts in saw 5 most, its exactly what a saw trap should be, noone’s death was unavoidable, and they all are obvious that(depending on the mindset) at least one person dies or noone needs to die in any of them.
that movie makes me too angry to really enjoy bc everyone is so dumb
I mean escape room is basically the same, with surviving different traps etc. So if that is what you enjoy I recommend watching it.
@@Skimgras Oh yeah seen that I liked it, The First one is good, second one not so much lol
@@Skimgras escape room is very tame
7:26 "so now we are down to the really insane traps" oh yeah of course because the first one were kinda sane to me lmao
For the flammable gel trap , all you can do is placing the candle to a safe distance and then try 10.000 possible combinations. Surviving is not complately in your hands but you can increase your chance by being fast and trying most of it. The wall is not a help.
Also, the safe looked really low-quality, so it’s possible you could have listened for clicks
How do you get there are only 10.000 combinations?
@@freshrockpapa-e7799 5-digit code?
I couldn't open my locker at school with the code bruh, I dead.
some people said that its possible that the combination could have been written in an ink that would only show in complete darkness. but then it would be a bit harder to turn the lock on the safe.
If you had some sort of reflective surface for the tooth pulling one, you could use it as a mirror to see the numbers on your teeth without removing any of them.
There was a TV and shiny pliers. If you had really good eyesight, say 20/15, you should be able to use the pliers to show you the numbers in the reflection of the blank TV screen without having to do impromptu dental procedures.
If I recall correctly, in a later Saw movie, John is starting to get the hint that Amanda makes unwinnable games so he tells her to tie the key to Adam's foot but she just tosses it on his chest. He totally knew she made it impossible. Oh, and the classroom trap is kind of debatable who set it up. The door was welded shut, indicating it wasn't set up by Jigsaw, but that's not to say perhaps he didn't conceive of it and his apprentice just welded the door shut against his wishes.
yeah agreed i think the general jist is that amanda or hoffman probably set the classroom trap
My only problem with the key thing is, ok, everything goes as planned and Adam picks up the key and use it, is he free now and gets to skip everything that followed in the movie?, it's a cool final twist that the key was with him but got lost, but in universe it doesn't make any senses
To beat the needle pit, just take your shoes off and put them over your hands while you’re digging. The thick rubber soles and leather will give some protection and also act as paddles. There are objects in the room, too; a pram, and a box. Use them as scoops.
But the rest of ur body would still b getting stabbed
This is why you have blankets. You wrap yourself up in them.
You only have 2 minutes it’s litterally impossible of you don’t land near the key or if it is really buried.
The guy from the last trap you mentioned wouldn’t have survived anyway because in the movie the only door to the way out was sealed shut. Thats why Rigg and the other officers had to Knock it dow after he died. So even if he pulled everything out there would be no way for him to escape.
One of the first unbeatable traps I noticed that wasn't plotted to be unbeatable (such as the remove the chain trap) was Rex's trial, he was as good as dead no matter what; all his major organs were already pierced and if the rods weren't removed both he and his wife would just sit there and bleed out, so to even call it "their" trial would be wrong because it's only a trial for his wife, the only one who could survive
Man, creative traps weren't Saw 4's strongest suit.
I haven’t actually seen the scene, but why would she bleed out if she didn’t pull them out?
One survival tip that everyone knows is that if you get impaled or pierced in a way that will cause blood loss, you DONT pull it out because it actually blocks the exit and prevents a lot of blood from leaving your body
@@sofialozano4031 the saw movie have always played fast and loose with the logic. in that trap, her and her husband were bound back to back, with spikes going through each of their bodies. they were supposedly impaled in such a way that her wounds would be deadly if she didn't pull the spikes out, and his would be deadly if she did
edit: just realized that this is a 2 month old comment, i hope it was still helpful lol
The last trap could be beaten by shattering the jar. It would be much easier to survive the explosion without the nails and metal parts.
You would think that but it isn't true at all. He had a chain through his jaw bone and lip which would've he most likely killed him due to blood lost if it was removed.
@@redpanda6134 i think he means that if you break the jar, you can survive the explosion so now you have an infinite amount of time to safely saw the chain off the jaw hook, so he can move around without have to get rid of his mouth
@@aidenbigbro or he could just wait for the police to arrive
2:38 I think you would mostly avoid cuts by just sliding your feet across the ground, and that's a rather easy solution to think of
It’s such an obvious tactic I was always surprised the victim didn’t do it. He chose to step on the glass and hurt his feet.
Thank you. I've been saying how those traps are bs as f. But people say " They are not you can survive just by doing X despite X being something so difficult and will lead you to being crippled for the rest of your life, you can still escape"
On the wisdom tooth one, I got mine (all of them) removed, and one came out pretty easily, but there was one that the Doctor had use all of her strength, like, no joke, she was moving my head along with the tools, it was literally impossible and she realized that after the third or fourth pull, so she had to cut even more AND apply even more anesthesia to remove it. Oh, and still on topic: I once forgot to take in the painkillers after one of the teeth was removed, and I swear the pain was worse than when I dislocated my entire hand off my forearm
I always wondered whether for the wisdom teeth trap he could smash off a piece of mirror with the hammer and then hold it behind his teeth to see the numbers
Maybe. But it’s unlikely plus you risk loosing time that way.
"In this trap, you will need to severe your head with a toothpick, remove your tongue, then stitch it back on. You have 13 zeptoseconds, good luck"
The problem is that some of the traps weren't made by Kramer. The lore of Saw even goes as far as showing how Kramer would be disappointed in those who followed him because some of the traps were literally impossible to beat. As vicious as they were, his traps always left somebody the chance to beat them.
I feel like nobody got this part but I’m glad u did
@@ryanhartman5653 tons of other commenters got it too. I think that was part of the difference between John and the other Jigsaw impersonators.
nah lots of John traps are actually unbeatable. what about joyce that had to die ? and let's be real here most of his traps are in fact unbeatable. idc if you have to saw body parts,etc, that in enough itself makes the trap unbeatable
@@forproject1666 exactly I’m pretty sure you only have to lose 40% of your blood to bleed to death, a sawed off body part will surely lead to your death considering there’s probably nothing to stop the bleeding in there and no way to get to a hospital
What about the one where he has to rip the chain off, attached to his Jaw. In saw 3
The last one was designed by Kramer, yes, but... it is revealed in Saw 2 that Amanda modified the trap to be impossible. She also welded the door shut so even if he did somehow remove that extra chain he would have died anyway. Carrie even brings up that the trap was completely impossible.
2:45 rotary combinations are actually probably the easiest locks to open without knowing the combination.
How
@@owenjohnston3541 you just swipe them fast while trying to open
@@owenjohnston3541 you just rotate the knob in either direction until you hear a click, then go in the opposite direction, then again until it opens. It requires of some trial and error but there's not much else to it
Jigsaw says everybody has a chance, but then he makes traps where you deliberately have to kill another person to survive, a person who is bound and unable to do anything outside of hope you fail to save yourself.
“You must solve this world renowned calculus equation that has puzzled the most prestigious scientists since it was discovered, remove 311 of your ass hairs with your left pinky toe, remove both eyes and then take a standardized 9th grade exam, solve a 12 x 12 Rubik’s cube, build a miniaturized thermo-nuclear reactor and asexually reproduce a litter of kittens. You have 0.8 seconds, good luck lol 😉”
@@JustJakePape I watched Saw X recently and loved it, I really enjoyed how John was clearly the good guy here. I mean in most long-running horror franchises, you start to sympathize with or even root for the more familiar killer over randoms you just met and you don't even know the name of half the time... so they just say "heck it John's the good guy here". but even then....
There were two times where the trap was basically solved and the person would have been free... if they had literally five more seconds..
Like, really that says less about their will to live, and more about John not realizing it might take more than three minutes to grab a piece of their brain out or their skull and wait for it to dissolve...
@@1Hol1Tiger yeah
Most of the traps that were unbeatable weren't made by Jigsaw. The most unbeatable ones were made by Hoffman or Amanda.
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@@raykayproductions652 Now I see why people call *us* Jojo fans cringe
Question did John leave water for the Fat guy? Then no not all his traps were beatable. Not only that, starving yourself to 'loose weight' doesn't really work and the fat guy could have died of starvation even if he is fat. John has made traps that are unbeatable. Period. The guy literally cut himself open so badly he leaked his stomach contents. That is death.
Amanda's trap is technically unbeatable in the time frame given. 26 feet of intestines and ship to go through? Yeah no. Let me try to remember... technically the first two were unbeatable as well. At least for the photographer. That saw, or saws, could not cut through bone. With how fragile we see that they are. So unless the docs was different than the photographer then that means he actually fails completely. (other than him actually drowning in the first place)
@@mariawhite7337 How about you actually read the comment? *Most* of the traps that were unbeatable weren't made by Jigsaw. Emphasis on the most.
The Classroom trap should be in the rigged traps section for 3 reasons
1. There was no way that Troy could rip his jaw without hilariously bad consecuences
2. The door that Troy would use to "escape" when he ripped all his chains was welded shut
3. His damaged tendons wouldn't let him walk to the door even if he could magicaly remove all the chains and the door wasn't welded shut
not even about consequences ripping your jaw out the average human is not that strong to rip their own jaw out
@@dhb.4veil to be fair, because of how strong the chain is, basically his just rip out more than his own jaw
I think he could have gotten a chair or something to knock out the bomb and wait until the police arrives
1. The key in the needle trap wasn't at the bottom nor even close to the middle.
2. The jelly trap was impossible imo. But he just had to keep the candle on the safe and he wouldn't have been flammable since the lights were on.
3. The points of sacrifice was passable, seeing as they did pass. They were supposed to worked together.
4. The very first game was passable. John just messed up by putting the key in the tub near the drain. He could've broken his foot as well with the toilet lid.
5. The Venus fly trap was not passable. He needed more time. Maybe like 2-3 minutes to do it instead of just 1 min. Cutting into that part of your face right under your eye socket while not cutting a nerve and bleeding out is a very difficult task to ask in 1 min.
6. The knife chair was not really supposed to be passable. John knew how he would behave so he died as a result.
7. Bobby's wife's death was his own fault. He could have skipped past the hooks and climbed up the chains to get the trap undone. The wisdom teeth are no big deal tho.
8. I actually liked this trap cause it was well deserved. I didn't care if he passed or not. But it was passable.
9. The silent circle was not passable. Of course she's going to scream.
10. John didn't set up this trap I believe. It was his apprentice Hoffman. All of Hoffman's and Amanda's traps were unfair and unbeatable.
To 8. that's mean. I liked the guy and no, he doesn't deserve it 😠
Pretty sure 10 was actually Amanda, but either way, it's unbeatable.
To the first it was attached to a glow stick
4. John didn’t put the key there it was amanda
7. I just had tooth extraction and I’d rather die than do that without anesthesia. And you still require skill to pull it out properly without shattering
I’m regards to Adam’s key in Saw 1 being impossible, I think it was given lip service that Amanda just dumped the key in when it was meant to be tied to something so it could still be retrieved.
Basically, because she didn’t care if they lived or died, she didn’t set the game up correctly and it became rigged when it wasn’t supposed to be.