I didn't even realise it was supposed to look old/patinated, I just thought it was a style choice to make a dial with a grainy texture, and in that frame of mind I really like it. To me it's just a nice dial texture, I couldn't care less what the intention behind it was. Death of the author and all that.
I agree. I love that Longines has tried this. It brings a nice textural dimension to this watch. I mean, it's not like this is causing the market price for old military-issue watches to crash, right? And if it did--who cares?
Didn't realize it until I saw this video. And being a member of a lot of watch groups, I haven't come across any issue talking about the dial or faux patina. Well discussions are almost always Rolex, Omega and some high end brands.
I know it’s not for everyone but I really like the watch and the dial. Stowa makes almost exactly the same watch but with a plain white dial and to me it looks too stark and a bit off. The warmth of the cream dial and the faux-patina with the blued hands make the watch for me. Personal preference but if you look at it as a form of dial finishing I think it really works. And, if that doesn’t work for you at least Longines has a the history to back it up?
@@mr.t2553 😁😁 well.... I'm sorry I helped empty your wallet a bit 😆. The only thing I'd change is to increase the size of the crown a little to make winding easier. Do you post your watches on insta? If so, send a DM and I'll follow you back 👍🏻
@@tunokies Haha, nothing to be sorry about! I was looking for a long time for this kind of watch and I was only too happy to have found it and at a good price. It is now my daily wear for 8 months. I did not post pictures of my watch for the moment as I was always a bit worried to do so... As for the crown I do agree it could be slightly larger. And I would have liked a plexi crystal, but I am ok with sapphire.
I agree with both of you. Longines are fantastic, and Swatch neglect them to the benefit of Omega. So stick it to the man by buying vintage. 1950s to 1970s Longines are a steal, and they're a joy to behold inside. They show off with clever rocker wheels to switch between winding and setting, and in fairness they're a little more complicated than omega to service, but they're worth it. And as a bonus, there only patina related controversy is whether you like real patina.
Longines is one of the stars of the Swatch Group, great watches at competitive prices, selective promotional activity and a well defined target market is all contributing to good sales. Longines is doing okay.
I like it. The problem with shabby chic furniture is so much is unnatural with the distressing. Scratches and wear are in places where it wouldn't occur over time. I feel the dial here looks natural. This is what I'd expect a vintage dial to look like. However, while I feel they did a good job, I'd rather a clean dial. That being said I wouldn't pass up a great deal on this watch.
Exactly they aged up the dial a bit to give it some character, while at the same time knowing that people still want to read the dial. So *just* enough to look good without overdoing it, unlike so many "vintage" pintrest diy worn furnishings haha - glad I'm not the only one.
I have one, and the dots, to my ageing eyes, are basically invisible. In any event, it doesn't bother me. I think of it as each watch having its own unique artwork. It is easy to read, has a nice clear dial, and has an easy to use crown. That's why I bought it.
My opinion? It’s a thing of beauty and deserving of respect for what it is - there’s no way I could justify owning a problematic vintage watch over say 50 years old - this is the perfect companion for the equally gorgeous Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical
I own Patek, Lange MB&F. but Longines is My favorite. So much history, so many beautiful watches, it should be way above Omega in the Swatch Groupes ranks. As for this watch I totally like it as well as the sector dial model. Great video as always!
It haven’t left my wrist for two years. I used to collect watches but since buying this I’m a OWG. PS. fauxtina is a subjective term. Some just consider it part of the design.
@@mannyfernandez1713 I dont ware it in the shower or when fishing. So its fine. On a regular day its never at risk. My phone and wallet isn't waterproof either but they also seem to survive without any trouble :)
In the case of any faux aging, I think it’s best to check your rules or principles at the door and just look at the watch. Do you like it or not? Once you’ve decided, you can work backwards and decide if all the other details including the movement and the manufacturing process fit your preferences. While some may see this watch as regressive, I see it as looking ahead to an era where aged dials are not going to be as common due to the use of modern materials that resist aging and patina. The only ways to achieve this look will be to build it into the watch from the start or to buy a potentially unreliable vintage piece. Personally, my gut reaction is this is an attractive piece from an excellent brand with great historical significance. I’d be happy to wear it.
Like everything, it’s a matter of personal taste and as the man himself said, it gives us something to talk about. I think these look great snd Longines as a brand are pretty much unmatched for what they offer at the price they do. More please! 👍
Recently got an Omega SM300M, so I'm firmly in the fauxtina camp. Love old classic watches, but no way would I want to own one, so a retro reissue is perfect for me. Cheers 👍👍
When it's done right and when the use of fauxtina is somehow warranted, I have nothing against it. What I don't like is when it's overdone (the Laco Erbstück series comes to mind) or when it's somewhat mismatched. Like on the current Bond Seamaster that mixes modern materials and design-cues with fauxtina elements. This Longines looks absolutely fine to me. And given its size, "restraint" WRT the application of fauxtina and the simplicity of its design, I guess most people who see it on your wrist wouldn't be able to spot the fauxtina dial, anyway.
If it was me giving a vintage vibe to this watch, I would've "aged" te patina of the hands too, and maybe used an acrylic domed cover for completing the experience. But then again, being a Longines longtime fan myself, no complaints. Fine review as always.
I have the original version of this watch made by Omega (Omega CK2292). This watch is beautiful. I can see why some dislike it... but it's still a beautiful piece. The original is far too valuable and fragile to wear at all times. This is a great way to get the look and feel of that old watch without worrying about destroying a piece of history. This is a great watch and tribute.
Waiting for Longines to introduce in-house movements to raise to it's former glory. Omega & Longines VS Rolex & Tudor can be way more interesting that way.
Given that Omega and Longines are both Swatch-group companies, the question of "in-house" isn't terribly relevant. I'd like to see some of the improvements shown in Omega and Longines movements migrate out and trickle down to the larger ETA/Swatch umbrella.
Same thing happened with guitars when Fender came out with their relic guitars. Back then everyone was asking who would buy one, now people pay a premium for them. I think this looks great personally.
“Pleasing attraction”; yes. Sorry folks, but this is yet again another example of Longines at its best, providing a very fine watch from within its Heritage collection steeped in great quality and looks. I applaud the intentional faux aging on the dial. See this piece in person, and be wowed.
Love this watch! To me, living by the ocean, the dial texture looks more like sand: the grains are there in mostly lighter tan, complete with a few darker grains. The blued hands only add to this beach feel...
I love Longines and their designs! But they need to quit a few things ASAP: 1) 3 ATM 2) 19mm lug width. There is probably more to critize but these two things are constantly annoying me when considering buying a watch from them!
I like it. I collect and restore old fishing reels and very much enjoy using them. As for watches they are beyond my skill level to restore. I can't wait to get mine it will be a perfect match to wear when fishing with one of my old favorite fishing reels and bamboo or fiberglass rods from the pre wars era.
I think the watch has beautiful proportions and the blued hands on the creme white dial look amazing, no matter if its supposed to suggest age or not, but the dark spots kind of bother me
A big part of the beauty of real patina is that it shows continuous historic layers of use and exposure to the world. The disgust many people feel towards fauxtina may come not only from the borrowed glory these pieces convey. It also roots in a semi-conscious confusion about the state of, well, society: for the first time in history the world can no longer cherish the new things because (maybe) it's got so little to offer that could age as gracefully as these historic references. The watch industry with its heavy reliance on reissues and artificial ageing is just the tip of the iceberg.
My initial reaction to this deliberate aging style is: Curiosity. How is it executed? Does it suit the piece? Would the 'faux-tina' or 'old radium' look enhance my enjoyment of the watch or would it detract? It's the same as with any styling choice. Would I like more the watch in a bright colorway or is a guilt (gold on black) style more suitable? Likely for many, this choice of a deliberately 'aged' time piece is akin to modern bronze watches: Why would anyone choose to purchase a watch that WILL oxidize and possibly turn your wrist green? Personally, I don't know why one would want a visibly detreating watch case... but I still bought one. And if given the option, I'd buy this beauty, too.
ohhh the old and familiar type of video that Whathfinder has me used to, I thought I would never see you again. Just the watch, the handman and good shots, and obviously a weekend off. Like old times.
People who openly have a problem with fake patina/wear marks, such as in watches, cars, guitars, are people who think they are entitled to dictate how the world runs. They are self-righteous people, frustrated because they are overly zealous about such an insignificant thing, that they can't stand the thought of someone being happy with simply imitating that thing. It's not passing it off as something it's not, no one is selling a new watch as vintage, it's just giving it a look and a feel, it's quite easy to understand honestly, and anyone who enjoys it needs to be able to do so freely.
This covertly luxurious watch looks great. I don't mind the intentionally vintage look. I'm a fan of Longines; I own a Master Collection Moon Phase, and I would buy this one in a heartbeat.
I have mine on a beads of rice and I think it looks absolutely fantastic. Admittedly, a BOR was never a pilot's choice, as far as I know, but hey, it's my watch and therefore I have the right... ..To anyone on the fence I would say this: the vanilla dial is incredibly versatile and can cover most occasions. This is a heritage watch and hence no more of a "lie" than any other vintage watch that is reimagined for the 21st century!
There was an even more extreme example of this recently in the Seiko Streetfighter V, where the scratches, exactly the same on each, represent "the philosophy of Ryu, who dedicates himself to relentless training, aiming to become a "true fighter."
I have a 1964 yellow Gold Manuel wind Longines on a brown Alligator strap and a Conquest 41mm smooth bezel…love both of them…I tend to not like a faux aged watch
I get the whole "fauxtina" thing. It is very subjective and I think this Longines looks beautiful like that. It's more of a style than trying to look old. In regards of the luminous paint using the cream color can add some good contrast to the dial and add cohesion to the piece rather than just trying to look patinated
I like this watch for the same reasons I like Grand Seiko: They're making the dial into a canvas worth looking at on its own. Although, this particular look might work best with a certain outfit. I'm no style expert, but I'm getting a beach vibe with a linen shirt and loafers.
its one of those watch that went back to the basic fundamentals of watch making, to tell time. i like of cream off white streamline and clean dial, the faux patina adds more character to the watch. love it.
I don’t mind if old watches are made look newer or if old parts are used in newer watches. What’s important is that the manufacturer explicitly states it AND that it’s not very falsifiable.
It may not have made it onto my watch 'watch list' yet but a quite like it. Super readable and a clean dial, well apart from the mould spots. I like the dial colour and texture, the blued hands are the icing on the Danish Blue cheese dial. I would happily wear this on my wrist with my only concern that in a few months the dial may look like a cotton wool plantation from the growing mould inside. It could be interesting for the poor service staff in hazmat suites if the watch gets a tad, well you know ripe.
Artificial aging bothers me usually, especially when they take it too far like on guitars. But on this watch, it's really quite subtle and doesn't look anything like any of my old dials, so I didn't even realise they were trying to make it look old.
As I generally wear vintage watches (currently wearing a 1947 Omega that I’ve just bought) I love it but as I’d like it smaller, maybe 36mm and to have more water resistance as a new “vintage” watch which is what I get with my Smiths that I wear when I don’t want to risk a genuine vintage watch. I do wear modern larger watches but if it looks old it should be a classic size.
I bought an Omega 6B/159 1942 recently. One of the worst things about this re-creation is the fact that the Longines name on the dial is visibly a sticker. Are the hands genuine blued steel, or painted blue? I fear the latter.
The only thing missing on this watch is an exhibition case back, showing a well finished modern calibre - a perfect anachronism and a fitting compliment to this amazing watch!
Do they also come with pre-scratched cases? I think it's an attractive watch, I would see this patina as a designer choice rather than trying to emulate the worn off look.
Only way I can consider this weathered look because the patina is unique for each piece, (similar to the Oris Aquis Upcycle), anything on the lines of the GS White Birch, and many including me wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
Thank you for producing this video. If you could leave the constant begging for subscriptions out, I would be most grateful. The concept of "shabby chic" is at the centre of the discussion when it comes to this watch. "Shabby chic" is fake: new things made to look old. I have always tried to buy quality, but at times this has been extremely difficult. Most products that have been produced in the last 50 years were just crap: clothes, cars, watches, phones, computers, furniture and on and on. "Shabby chic" caters to the idea that some things can stand the test of time and still look beautiful with what is called "patina". Well, if these items had been produced in a better way, they would still be around and show real patina. Sadly, they were not and are not. I totally understand that people buy these "shabby chic" products: all of their life was spent buying trash, and it eventually landed there. Still, you can buy really cool, reliable, beautiful and genuine objects from the past. Why spend money - and this Longines is dear - on fakes?
They've been doing this to guitars, Gibson first then Fender. Both custom shop departments, both sell more than the new looking variants. Same reactions, both of love and hate.
Faux patina and being accused of imposter intent all aside, this watch still tells a story in its final form. Any watch that can tell a story, get others talking about where the inspiration came from, is an interesting and great watch in my book.
Beautiful watch. Cream dial, black numbers, blue hands, diamond crown. Steel casr. The cream dial will make this a hot seller. When you have a white dial next to a cream one, the creamy dial sells out first. Keep the patina.
I see it as a beautiful homage to a classic but ultimately newer and likely, more reliable. However, maybe they should have just reproduced the original as it was new.
Honestly I feel atracted to it, maybe is because I like small size watches... maybe because I have a pair of vintage omega's that aren't from big "pedigri" at all, one from 1952 and the other from 1934, like you said, it's a matter of taste, in the end, if possible, it will be pleasand to see two togheter, to find out if the dials are unique or mass series production.
...as for the date: no question that the dial is beautifully clean without the window. But I personally really like having access to date information. Some watches can easily accommodate a central date hand (like those sickle-ended indicators) and others a sub-dial. I think that would break up the "beach" expanse of this particular dial. I'm not saying this would be perfect for this watch, but generally, I'd like to see makers explore new ways to include the date in a well-integrated manner. By extension example, Grand Seiko just moved their Spring Drive power reserve to the back for the Omiwatari. And many watches have see-through backs. Maybe having date on the back might work, letting you orient to today's date (e.g. when on vacation, etc) when you put on your watch in the morning? It would be fun to see the innovation results of new ideas to present date information unobtrusively.
I have a Longines Flagship that I'm having a real problem taking off so I can wear one of my others in my collection. It's a dress watch and I'm retired with no need for a dress watch. But I wear it with sweats and a tee shirt and I really don't care what people think about the combination. I love my Longines.
I may be missing something, but I thought all the members of the Dirty Dozen, including Longines, had a black dial and the examples of the Longines version I’ve seen had sub seconds.
I am glad this watch exists, and I have no opinion of someone else who wears it. The trouble is whether I would wear it. I like the way it looks but I lean away from actually wanting to wear it because part of me believes that a patina is something earned through faithfulness to a single product. I just don’t know if that sentiment should get in the way of enjoying a pretty watch.
Violin makers do this all the time. Rolling the backs on rock salt, adding dirt to the varnish, giving artificial wear marks to make it look like it has been resting on a shoulder for decades. It fools nobody and is not meant to. It's just been so established that the old Strads and Del Gesus and their 300-year-old contemporaries are deemed the standard that even perfect, fresh-from-the-workshop violins just "look better" to many with these blemishes. Maybe this is happening to pre-quartz watches.
The "fauxtina-spots" on the dial are a bit daft and silly, but I imagine you don't see them very clearly with the naked eye. Other than that the watch looks great. The beige dial and blue hands look fantastic. It should have been a manual and not an automatic, though.
I dont mind the fauxtina dial. Beats the hell out of anything skeletonised imo. The lack of lume, however, makes it a "never in a month of Sundays" for me though.
That each dial is uniquely patina-ed saves this quirk from being reviled. If, like pre-torn blue jeans in which the tears on one pair are the same on every other pair, this pattern of patina was repeated across every piece, well, that would warrant disdain.
Comment at 4:15 - pretty blue hands, nice sandy dial, pleasantly simple aesthetic. I guess those with a knowledge of its lineage might object. I have none, so just find it a good-looking watch.
They could have gone without the spots, but I suspect they aren't as conspicuous in real life as they are in the closeup shots. But overall I think the watch is very tastefully done and has a timeless look to it.
A cream textured dial without the brown spots and it's 10/10. The extra step of putting brown spots on it to make it look old ruins it for me but I understand why a lot of people really like it.
I like it, but not for $3200. It has a clean design language that isn't present in some of their sports watches, and that's very welcome. The minute hand should be slightly more round IMO. I don't think this watch screams Longines. Could you guess it without the text on the dial or the caseback? I suspect not. I like the understated aesthetic but it lacks something emblematic of Longines. Look at the Silver Arrow and you will understand my meaning - and also note the price.
There are so many things to admire about this watch, sensible proportions, a heritage brand, sub 12mm thickness, beautiful hands and clear legible dial. As the presenter says, I wish they had given the consumer the option of buying a standard watch or the faux patina version, I would love to see how the sales stack up. For my money the 'Heritage Military' on the back should go as well. It is not a military watch - it is a remake of a WW2 watch with a better movement, manufacturing techniques and tolerances, you also get a warranty. Just enjoy it for that. The crisp case and immaculate crystal give it away to anyone who glances over at it. The reason those true vintage watches with their patina are so desirable is because they have stories to tell. Someone loved it so much and went through so much and it has stood the test of time. Faux patina is just silly in my opinion. Just like people sanding wear marks into guitars so that they look like they have been toured for 50 years.
I very much like the watch and don't mind the brown speckling to mimic age. The slightly larger size is great for those of us who don't always wear our reading glasses. On the other hand not sure about the engraving on the case back. Not a deal breaker and to be fair it clearly says HERITAGE. Overall I like homage watches but in many cases the lume is overdone. I would prefer a middle ground on that.
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I didn't even realise it was supposed to look old/patinated, I just thought it was a style choice to make a dial with a grainy texture, and in that frame of mind I really like it. To me it's just a nice dial texture, I couldn't care less what the intention behind it was. Death of the author and all that.
I agree. I love that Longines has tried this. It brings a nice textural dimension to this watch. I mean, it's not like this is causing the market price for old military-issue watches to crash, right? And if it did--who cares?
@@OuijTube that would make things better for me :p
I agree. It doesn't look faux to me at all. This watch dial looks classic. I love it.
Didn't realize it until I saw this video. And being a member of a lot of watch groups, I haven't come across any issue talking about the dial or faux patina. Well discussions are almost always Rolex, Omega and some high end brands.
I actually love the simple Longines watches in this line. This is a watch I could daily wear without having to freak out about it.
I know it’s not for everyone but I really like the watch and the dial. Stowa makes almost exactly the same watch but with a plain white dial and to me it looks too stark and a bit off. The warmth of the cream dial and the faux-patina with the blued hands make the watch for me. Personal preference but if you look at it as a form of dial finishing I think it really works. And, if that doesn’t work for you at least Longines has a the history to back it up?
There's also the Timefactors PRS-29AM at a more period size of 36mm
I have the Stowa Marine like this and agree I would like a cream dial.
@@tunokies The Air Ministry is the best! And your pictures on Instagram took part in making me buy one last time they were available =)))
@@mr.t2553 😁😁 well.... I'm sorry I helped empty your wallet a bit 😆. The only thing I'd change is to increase the size of the crown a little to make winding easier. Do you post your watches on insta? If so, send a DM and I'll follow you back 👍🏻
@@tunokies Haha, nothing to be sorry about! I was looking for a long time for this kind of watch and I was only too happy to have found it and at a good price. It is now my daily wear for 8 months. I did not post pictures of my watch for the moment as I was always a bit worried to do so...
As for the crown I do agree it could be slightly larger. And I would have liked a plexi crystal, but I am ok with sapphire.
A video about Longines as a brand and its new watches like Hydroconquest would be GREAT!
Longines deserves a lot of respect and recognition
I agree with both of you. Longines are fantastic, and Swatch neglect them to the benefit of Omega.
So stick it to the man by buying vintage. 1950s to 1970s Longines are a steal, and they're a joy to behold inside. They show off with clever rocker wheels to switch between winding and setting, and in fairness they're a little more complicated than omega to service, but they're worth it.
And as a bonus, there only patina related controversy is whether you like real patina.
Longines is one of the stars of the Swatch Group, great watches at competitive prices, selective promotional activity and a well defined target market is all contributing to good sales. Longines is doing okay.
I like it. The problem with shabby chic furniture is so much is unnatural with the distressing. Scratches and wear are in places where it wouldn't occur over time. I feel the dial here looks natural. This is what I'd expect a vintage dial to look like. However, while I feel they did a good job, I'd rather a clean dial. That being said I wouldn't pass up a great deal on this watch.
Exactly they aged up the dial a bit to give it some character, while at the same time knowing that people still want to read the dial. So *just* enough to look good without overdoing it, unlike so many "vintage" pintrest diy worn furnishings haha - glad I'm not the only one.
It's fake!
I have one, and the dots, to my ageing eyes, are basically invisible. In any event, it doesn't bother me. I think of it as each watch having its own unique artwork. It is easy to read, has a nice clear dial, and has an easy to use crown. That's why I bought it.
are the dots in different places on each watch or is it a print?
@@JinKee They are random on each watch, so they're all different.
every single face is unique and hand painted
My opinion? It’s a thing of beauty and deserving of respect for what it is - there’s no way I could justify owning a problematic vintage watch over say 50 years old - this is the perfect companion for the equally gorgeous Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical
FFS it's fake man!
I own Patek, Lange MB&F. but Longines is My favorite. So much history, so many beautiful watches, it should be way above Omega in the Swatch Groupes ranks. As for this watch I totally like it as well as the sector dial model. Great video as always!
I recently purchased The Longines Heritage 1969. It is very cool!
I don’t even like omega style. But longines master collection it so much amazing
It haven’t left my wrist for two years. I used to collect watches but since buying this I’m a OWG.
PS. fauxtina is a subjective term. Some just consider it part of the design.
Ayeeee a photography channel crossing over! You love to see it 🥰
How did you manage the 30 m WR??? I’ve been considering the watch, but the water resistance puts me off it
Exactly, to me it's just art that makes it looks like stone. I don't think of it as patina at all
@@mannyfernandez1713 I dont ware it in the shower or when fishing. So its fine. On a regular day its never at risk. My phone and wallet isn't waterproof either but they also seem to survive without any trouble :)
I was just thinking that this could make a good one watch collection, just swap out the strap to match attire or activity.
In the case of any faux aging, I think it’s best to check your rules or principles at the door and just look at the watch. Do you like it or not? Once you’ve decided, you can work backwards and decide if all the other details including the movement and the manufacturing process fit your preferences.
While some may see this watch as regressive, I see it as looking ahead to an era where aged dials are not going to be as common due to the use of modern materials that resist aging and patina. The only ways to achieve this look will be to build it into the watch from the start or to buy a potentially unreliable vintage piece.
Personally, my gut reaction is this is an attractive piece from an excellent brand with great historical significance. I’d be happy to wear it.
There's nothing "cheap" about this watch.
I think it looks sick. you get the vintage look without having to deal with the difficulty to get and take care of.
Like everything, it’s a matter of personal taste and as the man himself said, it gives us something to talk about. I think these look great snd Longines as a brand are pretty much unmatched for what they offer at the price they do. More please! 👍
Recently got an Omega SM300M, so I'm firmly in the fauxtina camp. Love old classic watches, but no way would I want to own one, so a retro reissue is perfect for me. Cheers 👍👍
The new column wheel chronographs look amazing at the price point and Longines has such a storied history that it is a genuine bargain
Longines makes such a great comeback with their retro line. Just look at the Conquest Heritage Chrono. But I am not so much an fan of faux patina.
Couldn't agree more.
The spirit is stunning on wrist! At this price point, hard to find better.
@@robinmarples5198 impossible to find better.
When it's done right and when the use of fauxtina is somehow warranted, I have nothing against it. What I don't like is when it's overdone (the Laco Erbstück series comes to mind) or when it's somewhat mismatched. Like on the current Bond Seamaster that mixes modern materials and design-cues with fauxtina elements.
This Longines looks absolutely fine to me. And given its size, "restraint" WRT the application of fauxtina and the simplicity of its design, I guess most people who see it on your wrist wouldn't be able to spot the fauxtina dial, anyway.
Seen this watch first hand today while shopping for a tissot. Absolutely gorgeous watch in person. Pretty sure I'll be adding it to my collection
Longines: Adds fake patina
Laco Erbstück: Hold my beer 😅
If it was me giving a vintage vibe to this watch, I would've "aged" te patina of the hands too, and maybe used an acrylic domed cover for completing the experience. But then again, being a Longines longtime fan myself, no complaints.
Fine review as always.
We truly are lucky enough that the industry is alive and healthy enough to offer the variety we see today.
Yes, we have to remind ourselves of that every so often.
I like it. If “neoclassical” can be a classy architectural style, then “neovintage” can be a classy watch design.
That blueing on the hands against the cream "patinated" dial is beautiful. I love this watch as it is.
Brand-new jeans: $40
Pre-ripped, "distressed" jeans: $140
I have the original version of this watch made by Omega (Omega CK2292). This watch is beautiful. I can see why some dislike it... but it's still a beautiful piece. The original is far too valuable and fragile to wear at all times. This is a great way to get the look and feel of that old watch without worrying about destroying a piece of history. This is a great watch and tribute.
Waiting for Longines to introduce in-house movements to raise to it's former glory. Omega & Longines VS Rolex & Tudor can be way more interesting that way.
Given that Omega and Longines are both Swatch-group companies, the question of "in-house" isn't terribly relevant. I'd like to see some of the improvements shown in Omega and Longines movements migrate out and trickle down to the larger ETA/Swatch umbrella.
Omega has to up their marketing game man, have you seen their vid with Kaia Gerber?
I guess, but does anyone think Omega’s in-house movements aren’t really made by ETA?
@@Angry_Gnome their movements are actually made in-house, but that isn’t good enough
@@Angry_Gnome So what if they are, they are hardly off the shelf movements. They can pretty much get whatever they want.
Same thing happened with guitars when Fender came out with their relic guitars. Back then everyone was asking who would buy one, now people pay a premium for them.
I think this looks great personally.
I was going to say the same thing, lol. The guitar community has embraced relicing much faster than the horological community.
I just don’t get the relic thing, just scratch it "indirectly" lol
I'd choose the Longines Heritage Military Marine Nationale over this one.
“Pleasing attraction”; yes. Sorry folks, but this is yet again another example of Longines at its best, providing a very fine watch from within its Heritage collection steeped in great quality and looks. I applaud the intentional faux aging on the dial. See this piece in person, and be wowed.
Gut reaction: I think it's pretty. The dial reminds me of paper. I've seen it in person and I feels like Longines had some fun with lore.
Love this watch! To me, living by the ocean, the dial texture looks more like sand: the grains are there in mostly lighter tan, complete with a few darker grains. The blued hands only add to this beach feel...
I love Longines and their designs! But they need to quit a few things ASAP: 1) 3 ATM 2) 19mm lug width.
There is probably more to critize but these two things are constantly annoying me when considering buying a watch from them!
I like it. I collect and restore old fishing reels and very much enjoy using them. As for watches they are beyond my skill level to restore. I can't wait to get mine it will be a perfect match to wear when fishing with one of my old favorite fishing reels and bamboo or fiberglass rods from the pre wars era.
I think the watch has beautiful proportions and the blued hands on the creme white dial look amazing, no matter if its supposed to suggest age or not, but the dark spots kind of bother me
A big part of the beauty of real patina is that it shows continuous historic layers of use and exposure to the world. The disgust many people feel towards fauxtina may come not only from the borrowed glory these pieces convey. It also roots in a semi-conscious confusion about the state of, well, society: for the first time in history the world can no longer cherish the new things because (maybe) it's got so little to offer that could age as gracefully as these historic references. The watch industry with its heavy reliance on reissues and artificial ageing is just the tip of the iceberg.
I think it makes for a good conversation starter and it makes each one unique...
My initial reaction to this deliberate aging style is: Curiosity. How is it executed? Does it suit the piece? Would the 'faux-tina' or 'old radium' look enhance my enjoyment of the watch or would it detract? It's the same as with any styling choice. Would I like more the watch in a bright colorway or is a guilt (gold on black) style more suitable?
Likely for many, this choice of a deliberately 'aged' time piece is akin to modern bronze watches: Why would anyone choose to purchase a watch that WILL oxidize and possibly turn your wrist green? Personally, I don't know why one would want a visibly detreating watch case... but I still bought one. And if given the option, I'd buy this beauty, too.
ohhh the old and familiar type of video that Whathfinder has me used to, I thought I would never see you again. Just the watch, the handman and good shots, and obviously a weekend off. Like old times.
People who openly have a problem with fake patina/wear marks, such as in watches, cars, guitars, are people who think they are entitled to dictate how the world runs. They are self-righteous people, frustrated because they are overly zealous about such an insignificant thing, that they can't stand the thought of someone being happy with simply imitating that thing. It's not passing it off as something it's not, no one is selling a new watch as vintage, it's just giving it a look and a feel, it's quite easy to understand honestly, and anyone who enjoys it needs to be able to do so freely.
This covertly luxurious watch looks great. I don't mind the intentionally vintage look. I'm a fan of Longines; I own a Master Collection Moon Phase, and I would buy this one in a heartbeat.
Look at that subtle off-white coloring. The tasteful thickness of it.
I have mine on a beads of rice and I think it looks absolutely fantastic. Admittedly, a BOR was never a pilot's choice, as far as I know, but hey, it's my watch and therefore I have the right... ..To anyone on the fence I would say this: the vanilla dial is incredibly versatile and can cover most occasions. This is a heritage watch and hence no more of a "lie" than any other vintage watch that is reimagined for the 21st century!
Beautiful! I like that it’s not too intense, just a nice touch.
05:20 You can hear Andrew's inner Sir Humphrey coming out.
There was an even more extreme example of this recently in the Seiko Streetfighter V, where the scratches, exactly the same on each, represent "the philosophy of Ryu, who dedicates himself to relentless training, aiming to become a "true fighter."
I have a 1964 yellow Gold Manuel wind Longines on a brown Alligator strap and a Conquest 41mm smooth bezel…love both of them…I tend to not like a faux aged watch
I get the whole "fauxtina" thing. It is very subjective and I think this Longines looks beautiful like that. It's more of a style than trying to look old. In regards of the luminous paint using the cream color can add some good contrast to the dial and add cohesion to the piece rather than just trying to look patinated
I like this watch for the same reasons I like Grand Seiko: They're making the dial into a canvas worth looking at on its own. Although, this particular look might work best with a certain outfit. I'm no style expert, but I'm getting a beach vibe with a linen shirt and loafers.
its one of those watch that went back to the basic fundamentals of watch making, to tell time. i like of cream off white streamline and clean dial, the faux patina adds more character to the watch. love it.
Great looking watch! Longines is "killing" it with Heritage line!
I don’t mind if old watches are made look newer or if old parts are used in newer watches. What’s important is that the manufacturer explicitly states it AND that it’s not very falsifiable.
It may not have made it onto my watch 'watch list' yet but a quite like it. Super readable and a clean dial, well apart from the mould spots. I like the dial colour and texture, the blued hands are the icing on the Danish Blue cheese dial. I would happily wear this on my wrist with my only concern that in a few months the dial may look like a cotton wool plantation from the growing mould inside. It could be interesting for the poor service staff in hazmat suites if the watch gets a tad, well you know ripe.
I’m just glad they kept the date window away from it:)
Artificial aging bothers me usually, especially when they take it too far like on guitars. But on this watch, it's really quite subtle and doesn't look anything like any of my old dials, so I didn't even realise they were trying to make it look old.
The gut reaction was indifference! If given the choice I would buy the vintage piece because I happen to be in a vintage hunting mood recently.
Longines are really killing it with their latest releases, whats not to like?
As I generally wear vintage watches (currently wearing a 1947 Omega that I’ve just bought) I love it but as I’d like it smaller, maybe 36mm and to have more water resistance as a new “vintage” watch which is what I get with my Smiths that I wear when I don’t want to risk a genuine vintage watch. I do wear modern larger watches but if it looks old it should be a classic size.
It would be nice to see a whole video on their heritage collection
I bought an Omega 6B/159 1942 recently.
One of the worst things about this re-creation is the fact that the Longines name on the dial is visibly a sticker. Are the hands genuine blued steel, or painted blue? I fear the latter.
Looks great, I thought it was just a nice, sand inspired dial. Seiko comes up with crazy dials why can’t Longines do the same.
The only thing missing on this watch is an exhibition case back, showing a well finished modern calibre - a perfect anachronism and a fitting compliment to this amazing watch!
I like it. The hands are superb. The faux patina looks the part on this watch.
A simple clutter free dial, enhanced by the right shade leather strap.
I really miss the old style of Watchfinder 😢
The script & the cinematography were brilliant.
Do they also come with pre-scratched cases? I think it's an attractive watch, I would see this patina as a designer choice rather than trying to emulate the worn off look.
For that you'd need the Laco Erbstück 😉
I don’t like how they wrote heritage military in huge letters on the case back
My feelings kept swinging between calm sense of quiet indifference, warm sense of pleasing attraction, and abject disgust.
I love this, it looks so beautiful to me. I'm really considering getting one.
Only way I can consider this weathered look because the patina is unique for each piece, (similar to the Oris Aquis Upcycle), anything on the lines of the GS White Birch, and many including me wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
Thank you for producing this video. If you could leave the constant begging for subscriptions out, I would be most grateful. The concept of "shabby chic" is at the centre of the discussion when it comes to this watch. "Shabby chic" is fake: new things made to look old. I have always tried to buy quality, but at times this has been extremely difficult. Most products that have been produced in the last 50 years were just crap: clothes, cars, watches, phones, computers, furniture and on and on. "Shabby chic" caters to the idea that some things can stand the test of time and still look beautiful with what is called "patina". Well, if these items had been produced in a better way, they would still be around and show real patina. Sadly, they were not and are not. I totally understand that people buy these "shabby chic" products: all of their life was spent buying trash, and it eventually landed there. Still, you can buy really cool, reliable, beautiful and genuine objects from the past. Why spend money - and this Longines is dear - on fakes?
They've been doing this to guitars, Gibson first then Fender. Both custom shop departments, both sell more than the new looking variants. Same reactions, both of love and hate.
Its a bit like my Hamilton field watch (which I like). I hear the same gripes about the faux patina on the lume on that watch.
I love it. Love the blue hands. Off white dial! Sweet!
Faux patina and being accused of imposter intent all aside, this watch still tells a story in its final form. Any watch that can tell a story, get others talking about where the inspiration came from, is an interesting and great watch in my book.
Beautiful watch.
Cream dial, black numbers, blue hands, diamond crown.
Steel casr.
The cream dial will make this a hot seller.
When you have a white dial next to a cream one, the creamy dial sells out first.
Keep the patina.
I see it as a beautiful homage to a classic but ultimately newer and likely, more reliable.
However, maybe they should have just reproduced the original as it was new.
Honestly I feel atracted to it, maybe is because I like small size watches... maybe because I have a pair of vintage omega's that aren't from big "pedigri" at all, one from 1952 and the other from 1934, like you said, it's a matter of taste, in the end, if possible, it will be pleasand to see two togheter, to find out if the dials are unique or mass series production.
They're unique. They're hand-painted, or should I say, "flicked."
Love this watch.
...as for the date: no question that the dial is beautifully clean without the window. But I personally really like having access to date information. Some watches can easily accommodate a central date hand (like those sickle-ended indicators) and others a sub-dial. I think that would break up the "beach" expanse of this particular dial. I'm not saying this would be perfect for this watch, but generally, I'd like to see makers explore new ways to include the date in a well-integrated manner. By extension example, Grand Seiko just moved their Spring Drive power reserve to the back for the Omiwatari. And many watches have see-through backs. Maybe having date on the back might work, letting you orient to today's date (e.g. when on vacation, etc) when you put on your watch in the morning? It would be fun to see the innovation results of new ideas to present date information unobtrusively.
I have a Longines Flagship that I'm having a real problem taking off so I can wear one of my others in my collection. It's a dress watch and I'm retired with no need for a dress watch. But I wear it with sweats and a tee shirt and I really don't care what people think about the combination. I love my Longines.
I may be missing something, but I thought all the members of the Dirty Dozen, including Longines, had a black dial and the examples of the Longines version I’ve seen had sub seconds.
I am glad this watch exists, and I have no opinion of someone else who wears it. The trouble is whether I would wear it. I like the way it looks but I lean away from actually wanting to wear it because part of me believes that a patina is something earned through faithfulness to a single product. I just don’t know if that sentiment should get in the way of enjoying a pretty watch.
Violin makers do this all the time. Rolling the backs on rock salt, adding dirt to the varnish, giving artificial wear marks to make it look like it has been resting on a shoulder for decades. It fools nobody and is not meant to. It's just been so established that the old Strads and Del Gesus and their 300-year-old contemporaries are deemed the standard that even perfect, fresh-from-the-workshop violins just "look better" to many with these blemishes. Maybe this is happening to pre-quartz watches.
Watch is both an instrument of measuring time and an art piece. That’s what i lke about them, and love the look of this piece from Longines
Don’t really like the fake aging, but I’d still get one because I think it’s a good looking watch.
The "fauxtina-spots" on the dial are a bit daft and silly, but I imagine you don't see them very clearly with the naked eye. Other than that the watch looks great. The beige dial and blue hands look fantastic.
It should have been a manual and not an automatic, though.
Laco is doing the same with the Erbstück editions of its Flieger watches... I think they look great.
I dont mind the fauxtina dial.
Beats the hell out of anything skeletonised imo.
The lack of lume, however, makes it a "never in a month of Sundays" for me though.
That each dial is uniquely patina-ed saves this quirk from being reviled. If, like pre-torn blue jeans in which the tears on one pair are the same on every other pair, this pattern of patina was repeated across every piece, well, that would warrant disdain.
Comment at 4:15 - pretty blue hands, nice sandy dial, pleasantly simple aesthetic. I guess those with a knowledge of its lineage might object. I have none, so just find it a good-looking watch.
they do actually offer a version with a flat white face- it’s part of the Master collection rather than Heritage
BTW, the vintage patina I do not find unattractive, though I doubt I'd buy it for myself. But I find it attractive in design.
They could have gone without the spots, but I suspect they aren't as conspicuous in real life as they are in the closeup shots. But overall I think the watch is very tastefully done and has a timeless look to it.
A cream textured dial without the brown spots and it's 10/10. The extra step of putting brown spots on it to make it look old ruins it for me but I understand why a lot of people really like it.
I like it, but it was a bit of a surprise to find out that from such a large and well established brand, that it has a bought-in movement from ETA.
I like it, but not for $3200. It has a clean design language that isn't present in some of their sports watches, and that's very welcome. The minute hand should be slightly more round IMO.
I don't think this watch screams Longines. Could you guess it without the text on the dial or the caseback? I suspect not.
I like the understated aesthetic but it lacks something emblematic of Longines. Look at the Silver Arrow and you will understand my meaning - and also note the price.
Warm feeling of pleasing attraction. Love this watch long before your video.
There are so many things to admire about this watch, sensible proportions, a heritage brand, sub 12mm thickness, beautiful hands and clear legible dial. As the presenter says, I wish they had given the consumer the option of buying a standard watch or the faux patina version, I would love to see how the sales stack up.
For my money the 'Heritage Military' on the back should go as well. It is not a military watch - it is a remake of a WW2 watch with a better movement, manufacturing techniques and tolerances, you also get a warranty. Just enjoy it for that. The crisp case and immaculate crystal give it away to anyone who glances over at it.
The reason those true vintage watches with their patina are so desirable is because they have stories to tell. Someone loved it so much and went through so much and it has stood the test of time. Faux patina is just silly in my opinion. Just like people sanding wear marks into guitars so that they look like they have been toured for 50 years.
I really love this watch. I will definitely buy it before Christmas.
Thanks for a great review. 👏
I very much like the watch and don't mind the brown speckling to mimic age. The slightly larger size is great for those of us who don't always wear our reading glasses. On the other hand not sure about the engraving on the case back. Not a deal breaker and to be fair it clearly says HERITAGE.
Overall I like homage watches but in many cases the lume is overdone. I would prefer a middle ground on that.