This is a side note to the video, but I think it should be mentioned that Chris deserves a moment of appreciation from all Bodybuilding fans. His extreme popularity, because of his incredible physique and character have done the entire Bodybuilding world a favour. As of right now he has gained 1.1 million followers on Instagram within 4 days over the course of the olympia. Great to see him carve out a legacy and have his best battle to date against Ramon 🔥🏆
@MGK " and Arnold is one of the most famous people on the planet, bodybuilder, movie star, former politician, promoter, etc. Within a few years CBum may surpass him in followers. Once he retires, Chris should get advice from Arnold about getting into acting. I know he's kind of an introvert compared to Arnold, but he could at least have a strong media career and cross over into mainstream.
Such a shame the judges decided they didn't like Breon's physique anymore. These past couple Olympias I feel like there was a case for him to be at least top 2 from a pure musculature standpoint. Dude has no real weak bodypart.
But is he Classic? I'm not so sure, he looks like a 212 guy to me. I don't really like any of the short guys in the Classic Physique division. Nobody sets out to look like Franco, and Breon is even a far cry from Frank Zane (who is 5'9", not 5'7" like Breon).
Breon may not have any weak muscles groups but his blocky midsection and waist doesn't do his body any justice. Bodybuilding is a very subjective sport but even moreso in the classic division where it's all about aesthetics. Compare his midsection now to when he won his two olympias and its clear as day that he looked more aesthetic/more classic. Also factoring in that there are way taller competitors with smaller waists, it hurts him even more. But I do agree that Breon should definitely place higher.
@@DCJayhawk57 To me he is, Classic doesn't mean tall it means good flow, good posing, proportional physique. Breon checks all the boxes. I mean he won several titles, that should tell you he is plenty Classic.
Not to mention CBum is just 27 years old and has already won 4 Olympias is just mind boggling to me when we know the fact that Breon is still killing it in his mid 40's
I never got why they placed terrance over breon last year, to me, breon has incredible shape and outline and in great condition and size too, should've been number 2 imo but his legs do seem noticeably downsized this year though, but even still I think he should've placed over Urs
Really wish you had more time to do videos Tom because imo you are the best in the business at breaking everything down… better then all the other UA-camrs in this genre, which is high praise
The crucifix was my favorite out of all the classic poses that anyone hit just because of ambition. It looks so unlike all the other poses that everyone else was hitting and really made him stand out in my opinion. Also I really wish they would add more mandatory poses to classic like many others. The lat spreads would be so cool to see.
Yes the pose does make him stand out. But it doesn't flex his muscles at all, especially the quads. It doesn't showcase any of his good quality as compared to cbum's pose which pretty much showcases biceps, triceps, lats, quads, pecs etc
I thought Ramon hitting that as a favorite classic pose was a huge mistake for him. He kind of pulls it off but it makes him looks quite lenky and thin when standing next to Chris
I believe the only one with the body structure to beat him is Fabian, but he lacks muscle development still. Perhaps he will be a great contender in 2024
The funniest part is cbum said him self he is about 6"ft and actually he was mesuered in shoes at barley 6"1 ft and dude mesuered his hair included so not pushed down! I think Chris is barley 6"ft to be honest! Since he isn't even that much taller than Dino I noticed that the last Olympias! There is no 2 inch difference between Dino and cbum no fkn way! Very very very fishy something is not right at the measurement at the O
Great coverage Tom as always. Chris could easily keep winning this as long as he’s willing to go and after weigh ins he said he still had a couple of more pounds he can add and I think he will keep going until he’s fully maxed out. 2lbs more on his arms may be the final death blow to everyone since he’s weighed in at 237.8 (not that he needs it to keep winning). To think this guy could win 10 in a row if he wanted it, is crazy! #5 coming next year.
This is by far Wesley's best showing. I think he's finally figuring out conditioning with his new coach though still has a ways to go. If he hadn't looked soft in the lower body from behind, I think he'd have been in 6th, not 8th. I thought he should have been above Fabian who only placed higher because of conditioning. Wesley previously seemed to be pushing the weight cap, but I believe he weighed in at 2 kg below his weight cap in clothes, and that was for the 6'2-3" height when he ended up measuring at 6'3" (in the past he's measured just under at a few shows). If he can pull a Bumstead and figure out how to measure in at peak height every time, he'll be allowed 7 lb more weight which could equate overall to 12 lb+ more muscle on his frame on stage in peak condition, which I believe he needs in the glutes, hams/adductors, and low back to be competitive for top 3 eventually. He can't play the small tapered guy game, that's not his strength, he's more of a powerful Arnold-type physique with his good arms and broad clavicles. He's more akin to 70s aesthetic whereas some of the other guys are more 80s. Someone needs to make Wesley do some heavy deadlifts and high rep squats, I've followed his training for a while and he does too many machines. I know he's risk averse, but his back shots expose his lack of heavy barbell training. However, I do appreciate that Wesley is conservative with how much mass he's putting on each season, slow and steady is how the old school guys did it. I personally am not a huge fan of Ramon, I think he's too narrow. Although his back has good detail, he looks slim like a Men's Physique guy from behind. I also don't like his Sergio-esque peakless biceps. Urs honestly has the same problems. Mike looks awesome, his structure reminds me so much of a wider Frank Zane. If he had been more conditioned he'd be a threat for the #2 spot.
Year by year Chris just seems to get better, his conditioning this year was crazy yet he was still full. Only thing that caught my eye was his left bicep, it seemed faded almost a little fuzzy/blurred looking. It didn’t detract a ton from his overall look and he still deserved to win but it was definitely something I noticed and I’m curious if something happened. Chris definitely deserved the win, despite the competition making surprising gains in one year he still a head and shoulders above everyone else with a fair bit of breathing room. Congrats to Cbum for the 4th win, I hope he keeps going and racking up wins, and I’m genuinely curious how many he can take. I see at minimum a couple more he is just so near perfection for classic and keeps getting better.
@@samraizshoaib585 i bet you already know the truth by now, it was a minor bicep tear. But cbum learns from his mistakes, we are all excited to see 2023 cbum with no flaw, and possibly at max weight cap.
@@thebeast5054 He'd beat Ramon in a few I think but Chris clears him. I don't see him winning a single shot besides MAYBE the front double where id still take Chris.
yeah you are totally right. Most brazillians were hating him, because he did actually beat ramon last year, but in classic olympia its not only about size!!!
Also he looked totally different live than on the stream . Everyone said that... these pictures don’t do him justice because you don’t see the conditioning. Urs has the frame, the posing, the energy and the conditioning and he improved in size. He was clearly better than breon and mike. The only controversial placement imo is Terrance at 6 . Wesley and Fabian looked better than him
@@merdankaya3719 are you joking? Brazilians don’t have him lol he is very popular here, he already came here and met all the influencers, people like him. It’s just competition, we always gonna cheer for our country.
@@Aldo1850 really??? I saw plenty of commets under Olympia Videos, where i Google translated comments with "Urs" in it and they all mentioned, that he was to small, placed to high, had baby arms... you get it. Maybe i just saw to less to judge. Did not know, he is popular in brazil.
I think urs has the best lower body in the division (from the front at least) and is his stand out bodypart, I feel like he knows this and deliberately stands the way he does
@@kshitijthakur8324no calves, bad disproportionately small arms, too high lats, not enough separation. If anything, Urs is way closer to Breon than Dennis is to Phil and Kai. Plus, Breon is stocky and has bad legs.
The only thing Ramon has over Chris are his arms. Everything else is Chris by light years. Until someone else comes along with superior structure, Chris is going to continue to dominate this division.
@@SuperPhoReal Cbum deservedly won this competition. If you scored Ramon over Chris in this competition then you're smoking something, it was Chris by a mile
@@SuperPhoReal popularity contest? If arms and abs are the only thing you can fault in Chris physique you’re an idiot. Chris is too big, to conditioned and is the clear winner of all the athletes lol it’s not even close
I just don't understand how chris can come in so much bigger than everyone else. I think the weight caps rules need some reevaluation because cbum looks like 15-20 lbs bigger proportionally than any other competitor.
Yup. Exactly my thoughts. They were 7~8kg apart, Chris would need to be WAY off for anyone to beat him. Up to the shoulders they look almost the same height, it's just unfair that he's able to be so much bigger. 8kg of stage weight is too much even for open monsters weighting 120kg+, let alone for classic dudes close to 100kg.
@@propletrelooxretlitre5705 You talk about bone density but since you go this way bone width should be considered too. Black guys have a smaller bone width than white guys in general.
the only thing that Chris needs to focus on is trying to minimize the injuries. He already injured his quads, his hamstrings and probably his bicep. At the moment none of those injuries were serious for his career, but he definitely should change something in his training if he's getting so often injured while being so young
100%. At this point he's gotta back off the weights a bit and go more for "stimulate, not annihilate". He doesn't need to grow much, just refine and stay healthy.
@@g_webb21 everyone agrees Cbum won every pose, even the brazillians. But even cbum himself gave respect to Ramon and basically said he is waiting for next year to be a challenge. So Ramon did put pressure in Cbum, but more in a hopeful manner that they can be rivals. They are all very friendly also, which is very nice.
He’s “grown” 2 inches in the past 2 years Every inch he “grows” he can put on 10LBS so The reason he is so far ahead Is because he is the ONLY athlete that never has an issue being close to the weight cap
He wins every single mandatory. There's never been a bodybuilder in any division that has been able to pull that off before. Arguably the most dominant bodybuilder in history.
@@gabrielpeterson3991 yes. I was actually meaning to put in a bit about how they need to redefine a perfect score. What is currently called a perfect score needs to be renamed a "unanimous win" or something, and this right here, being able to beat every other competitor in every single pose, that is a perfect score. Even if they added back the other missing mandatories, I suspect he'd still clean up in those as well.
I feel like they need to raise the weight cap in this division. Imagine these guys with 10 more pounds to play with. They end up looking sucked in and depleted with no pop by showtime because of the current weight limit. It gives some of the guys unfair advantages.
I don't know about raising the weight cap, but changing the height vs weight would be welcome. Cbum has a freaking long neck and that gives him a really unfair advantage near every other competitor. The difference of 2cm to be able to put +10lbs seems just off. We saw Chris butchering Dino mostly because of his 8kg ~ 20lbs more in the weight cap. This is too much for 2 open guys, let alone CP ones who are close to 100kg. There's no way Dino or any other guy who needs to hit 101kg will ever be able to top a guy weighting 10% more than they do with less than 4% difference in height.
I nearly lost it when you mentioned how similar a lot of these guys look. I absolutely agree, and I’ve lost some interest in this division for that exact reason. I think classic competitors have a “I need to look as much like Chris as I can” mentality, so if he’s doing a vacuum, they feel they have to as well. I think Alex and Michael should drop it as you mentioned, but I do think it helps breon a lot in that ab and thigh. To me, he looks less blocky in it and the vacuum masks his lack of bilateral separation through the core. I think a big reason people don’t think breon is as aesthetic is because it looks like he has a wide waist, and I disagree. Breon might have a slightly wider waist than other competitors, but I think his main issue is that is waist is short, not wide. Look at where his waist ends in comparison to his last and rib cage. Then do the same thing with a guy like Ramon. Breon waist looks blockier because it’s shorter, and I think the vacuum helps him elongate and slim down his waist.
the weight cap is not helping either. With such a strict range competitors will try to look as complete as possible, so they will not work on their strong points. I think if Arnold competed in today's classic physique he would have much bigger legs, but his chest and biceps would probably look not as impressive because otherwise he would exceed the weight limit
I always compared Cbum to Haney, not just shape but his stage presence and domination. I always considered Haney as the prototype for Classic division, the last Mr. O before the Mass Monster. Just like Haney, Cbum has dominated on stage and off stage acted with poise.
You can expose Chris’ weakness in the biceps, but he utterly destroys from the back in every regard. Ramon is comparable from the front, it’s when they turn around that there isn’t even a question who Mr. Olympia is.
It's undeniable that Cbum has maintained a massive lead over Ramon, but if we look at Ramon Dino's meteoric rise, we see that he's been climbing the ranks drastically. Many people said that Dino couldn't beat Ruff and Urs, leaving Ramon out of the top 3, but we saw what happened on stage... Chris Bumstead really evolved and maybe arrived in his best shape right now, but Ramon is transforming every competition, and he will be the most dangerous in 2023. Will we see a new epic battle like Ronnie and Jay? I'm very excited !
i think weight caps need to be reassessed...Ramon was at his cap this olympia and he would clearly need to add size to compete with chris, specially the lats. I think that should be something the organizers should look into imo
@@RafPvP yeah I know, still though, almost at his cap. For context, Chris was 12lbs below his cap last yr and at his cap this yr. 2021 Chris still demolishes ramon. My point is, the weight caps should be revised
@@RafPvP Ramon is measured at 5”11 and Chris at 6’2 I believe…there’s just not enough space or room for Ramon to grow enough or have enough weight to add size to his lats….Chris will beat him every time as I think he still has a little room to grow 🤣
People talking about how Chris has got 1 more Olympia title in him. I completely disagree. He is still so far ahead of everyone, he literally won every single pose hands down, I believe that if he wanted he could win the most Olympias ever. He should be pushing for 10, not 5.
I think you're being a little harsh on Terrence. I get being short he doesn't have the stage presence sandwiched in between 2 guys so much taller than him, but to me he is without a doubt the most aesthetic and complete guy in every pose in that lineup. I feel like with Breon and Urs, it's honestly a coin flip. If you value aesthetics, it's Urs. If you value completeness, it's Breon. The utter dominance of CBum the past 2 years is ridiculous, he's mopping the floor with everyone and it's not even close.
There's a noticeable gap between CBum and Dino when the two were compared side-to-side. However, when you compare Dino to the top 3-5 guys, he's also miles ahead from them and we can see this gap as well. For the next few years, these two will probably keep separating themselves from the rest of the pack and we might be looking into the next Ronnie vs. Jay generation. So excited for the years to come!!
Theres a lot of Breon's back shots that make me think of Dorian Yates. And for what it's worth, I actually really like him hitting a vacuum too. I love the emphasis on conditioning in classic but I do wish we had some more balance to it. You nailed it, everyone looks too depleted. But a consequence of the weight caps.
To me, Ramon Dino is too arm dominant and a bit too narrow through the shoulders and back. In the open, i think it's okay to have dominant body parts but classic physique should be all about symmetry and proportions imo. That's why Bumstead is the clear cut winner. His flow and symmetry is just a step above everyone else in the division. There's not a single muscle group that looks like it's overpowering the rest of his body. Just insane flow and proportions.
@@propletrelooxretlitre5705 I agree. Brandao would sweep the Classic. Looks too good for an Open guy. Based on how he looks, I suspect his cocktail of anabolic enhancing substances is small and carefully dosed. He is definitely not on hardcore, heroic anabolic doses.
Why don't they judge the Lat Spreads and Side Tricep in the Classic Physique!? I don't understand why they're not being judged since they were in the 70s.
Tom there can't be Arnolds, Robinsons, Haney and Olivas here. You are forgetting that the competitors are weight restricted on this division. Somehow, some way, only cbum gets to have some wiggle room on his weight that helps produce some wow factor you are talking about. Look what happened to Urs. He was hyper aware of his weight months before the competition because he was already on the weight cap. Now, how can he possibly grow his arms and back without being disqualified?
Idk why in the world they did a CBum Dino callout (well, I do - it's politics - they see $$$$ via his giant rabid Brazilian fanbase - and so were hard-core courting / kowtowing to them). Would have really like to see Dino in the 2nd callout because it would have been a lot more interesting. Same thing going on with the Rafael placement (love his physique, but he had no place near that top 10). Also they totally did Breon dirty. He's definitely not his best, but he's still just so good and beats Ramon imo. At the very least, it's super close and a deserving comparison. It's like they've just "decided" to slowly phasing him out. It's such a crock of shit. Phase him out when he deserves to be phased out, not because it's convenient for ushering in the new, more popular young guys.
Dude I urge you to watch every other analysis of CP finals to understand how wrong you're seeing things. It's common sense that nobody had any chance with Dino the same way he had no chance with Cbum. Breon has the best back on the division and that's it. No other body part of his stands out and the legs are way smaller than they were supposed to be. Brandao not being too 10 is really your opinion/head cannon, dude has a flawless physique that only needs more mass to be at top 5, he beat guys that were bigger because either they lacked his proportions or were pretty off on condition and posing, all criteria that are judged and that he was almost flawless.
I love Nick's Strength and Power but this breakdown is what I crave. This is how you get into a sport, someone guiding you and showing what's happening. Small critique, I would honestly just keep the names at the bottom the whole video.
Opinion on Cbums left bicep? Injury? Seo? His left arm nearly doubled in size and the lines/split between bi/tri is completely gone in the front double.
It wouldn't make any sense for him to only use it in one arm. I've seen so much speculation about chris having tears, inflammation, using SEO's and etc. But none actually knows other than Chris himself and I think we should just wait for him to adress it instead of making random speculations.
@@paklenim9989 but it looks visibly swollen/inflammed, look at any previous year, there is noticeable differences in separation, something definitely happened
@@skunkusmunkus9385 yea could be for other reasons also. Politics at its best that why it’s hard to get behind bodybuilding because a lot of times the best person doesn’t win. It’s so subjective.
People are starting to see it, the classic guys are starting to get very popular very fast. CBum leading the way of course but the majority of this top 10 has some star power
I often saw Gunnar Røsbø working out at Harald's Gym in Oslo in the '80s. The man was a beast and his forearms were astounding. Nice assessment of the line-up, Tomn8er. :)
I’m glad I’m not the only one that thinks Cbum is just miles ahead of the rest. Comparing him to Ramon, he’s way wider, thicker in the legs and more shredded and drier, much larger and thicker and wider back. Much larger chest circumference. His muscle maturity is on another level. And from the back glutes and lower body, Chris was destroying Ramon. Honestly Breon should have been second this competition, he was the only one that can come close to Chris. Urs is also far behind imo, dude looks stringy, with lagging/small body parts like back and arms that don’t match his legs. I’m not really a fan of his overall shape but he does bring good conditioning
CBum’s posing are more refined and on point. that for me is the x-factor aside from his overall proportion. Ramon’s advantage is his arms, especially that forearm, cant help but notice that
From what I understand wesley may actually be heavier than arnold in 75. But let's be honest, arnold looked much much better. There was something kinda magic about the physique of the 70s that seems to be irreproductible today: -the proportions (today: bigger legs, bigger ass, smaller arms, smaller pecs, smaller calves) -the tone of the muscle (they are leaner today but there are less striations, the muscle is less "alive") -the absence of stellar bodyparts (arnold biceps, sergio arms, lou pecs...) I understand why there's a weight cap. They want to keep things under control and healthier but it will prevent from seeing physiques like the greats of the 70s or marvels of the 80/90 like clairmonte, 93 flex wheeler or 80s benfatto. Think about it, francis benfatto not be able to compete in that category, really?
Just realise that chris only started working with Hany in september and he already brought his best package ever. Imagine what a full year with Hany will do. I tell you we will not have another classic physique champion until Chris retires...
Yah I mean cbum actually dominated this year, with Terrance being super off and breon just being at his classic limits he literally destroyed the stage this year, probably the most convincing win in any division in the last few years
I never follow classic too closely but holy Moses is cbum running away with it. It's honestly shocking how he seems years ahead of the pack this Olympia. I always feel bad for Breon tho. That guy is near flawless every year and I feel like he's always snubbed a bit. Either way, best Olympia of the last 20+ years imo.
I'm always gonna root for Chris but if Ramon works really hard this off-season, improves his biceps, chest and upper back along with how he positions himself relative to the judges (notice how Chris pushes his lower body forwards and upper back backwards during the back double bicep to appear wider), he could become a fierce competitor for next years top spot.
Congrats to Chris for his forth consecutive win. Great show. The big problem with this show is the ridiculously low prize money. It makes no sense. Especially now that the Classic Physique Mr Olympia is getting more and more popular with the fans.
Chris is only 27!!! wow. really i thought he is 32-37 years old. But greaaaat physique. Urs deserved his third place ! best line. but he should do this vaqum poses toooo much.
Im not a huge fan of the direction classic physique is going. Chris, Breon, Ramon and Terrence are the only notable physiques I’ve seen so far, with Terrence being my favourite. Not a huge fan of the really tall guys, they’re just a bit too stringy.
Chris and Ramon are the same age. But when it comes to training, dieting and all other things Ramon is way behind cause of his poor background. Ramon has improved a lot and probably once he gets that back closer to Cbum and improves his posing im sure he will give Chris a good battle.
Totally agree that Breon should have placed above Urs. No wonder he wants out of that division after decisions like that. Disappointing to see they are still going with the big flashy LED background. Drives me nuts. Keep up the great work Tomn8er. Best BB channel on UA-cam.
Cbum is pilling up injuries though, hamstrings, right quad, left biceps, his shoulders almost needed surgery last year. He may not be able to keep competing at this pace.
That's true and it's the only thing that could realistically take him down sooner than expected. Hope he starts adjusting his training style because he lifts like a beast but that type of heavy free weight training takes a high toll on the muscles and joints.
I personally love Terrence’s physique. The way it flows, his low lat insertions, the small rib cage, the round sweep on the quads, and his thick back. He looks straight from the 70s in my opinion.
Chris was amazing this year. He's still one of my favorite Bodybuilders of all time. And moral of the story, every judge in the Olympia hates Wesley and that's stupid.
I always thought of Breon as a smaller ( shorter ) version of Haney …. Just tons of detail and roundness…the most complete back in the division; Cbum has the wider lats, but Breon has him with thickness …unfortunately he has to lean down so much to make the weight cap, he does lose some fullness … but conditioning is always on point …should’ve gotten 3rd
I have go disagree man, it cant get more classic than ruffins physique, yes he was about 2 weeks out still but comeonnnnnn that's a beautifullllll physique
I would've like to see CBUM go head to head with Hadi, yes Hadi has him on muscle mass but CBUM has him everywhere else and just makes Hadi look ugly. CBUM also has superior posing, the winner of "Open", "Classic" and "211" go head to head for an "overall" title 💯💪💪💪
As some others have commented, there's something wrong about weight cap according to height. The shape of his head and his long neck give him an obvious advantage. How weird and fair a competition is when such criteria become important in a bbing competition...
If you could leave the names on the bottom that would be great. I don’t really know the lesser known people but I’d love to learn about them because nonetheless they still have a great physique. I just don’t really wanna go back and forth to where you put the names in the beginning you know? Great commentating tho!
You hit the nail on the head with your take on the vacuum pose. It's Ab and thighs and with some guys it smooths out the abs too much and it looks odd.
Can we appreciate how Wesley is literally carving his phisique year after year. At his Olympia debut he had so many weak spots and he`s consistently fixing them one by one. I never thought this guy could build up his legs and now he has one of the biggest and most seperated quads from the front. The only thing that`s stopping him from top 6 rn is the fullnes and and conditioning on his legs from the back.
Love your analysis tomen8er, BUT Urs absolutely smokes Mike in that rear double ?! Back may not be as wide, but tones more definition throughout. Legs look much bigger including that quad sweep, more pealed glutes/hammies, better calves. Mike looks so soft through the mid back to me.
I’ve been looking for a video like this to understand bodybuilding competitions judging cause to me they all look the same, and now I understand why cbum is so hyped, he’s INSANE, no competition. Thank you!
Biggest robberies to me were Gabe Zancanelli and Chen Kang, both of them looked better than Fabian to me but placed way lower. Both easily could have deserved to be in that callout for me.
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This is a side note to the video, but I think it should be mentioned that Chris deserves a moment of appreciation from all Bodybuilding fans. His extreme popularity, because of his incredible physique and character have done the entire Bodybuilding world a favour. As of right now he has gained 1.1 million followers on Instagram within 4 days over the course of the olympia. Great to see him carve out a legacy and have his best battle to date against Ramon 🔥🏆
After Arnold most popular body builder is cbum
@MGK " and Arnold is one of the most famous people on the planet, bodybuilder, movie star, former politician, promoter, etc. Within a few years CBum may surpass him in followers.
Once he retires, Chris should get advice from Arnold about getting into acting. I know he's kind of an introvert compared to Arnold, but he could at least have a strong media career and cross over into mainstream.
Shut up! He has the worst arms of any champion, in any class ever! Period! He's even worse than '97 Dorian.
@@HUNTERS_CRACKPIPE And therefore all his achievements mean nothing and we shouldn't like or appreciate him...?
@@JAMESmmmmmm exactly!
Such a shame the judges decided they didn't like Breon's physique anymore. These past couple Olympias I feel like there was a case for him to be at least top 2 from a pure musculature standpoint. Dude has no real weak bodypart.
But is he Classic? I'm not so sure, he looks like a 212 guy to me. I don't really like any of the short guys in the Classic Physique division. Nobody sets out to look like Franco, and Breon is even a far cry from Frank Zane (who is 5'9", not 5'7" like Breon).
Breon may not have any weak muscles groups but his blocky midsection and waist doesn't do his body any justice. Bodybuilding is a very subjective sport but even moreso in the classic division where it's all about aesthetics. Compare his midsection now to when he won his two olympias and its clear as day that he looked more aesthetic/more classic. Also factoring in that there are way taller competitors with smaller waists, it hurts him even more. But I do agree that Breon should definitely place higher.
@@DCJayhawk57 To me he is, Classic doesn't mean tall it means good flow, good posing, proportional physique. Breon checks all the boxes. I mean he won several titles, that should tell you he is plenty Classic.
@@MindTriksCF I do agree that his midsection is not his strong suit. Maybe that's enough to cost him so many placings
@@MacA60230 agreed. It seems like people just want it to be the tall person division.
Mike has a serious health condition that makes it hard for him to achiev the final polish. This was his best stage form he ever had.
Ah did not know that. That's too bad. I take back that top 2-3 prediction then because consistency is key in this field.
He is playing dice with his health if he has serious health conditions.
@@freshasadaisy4782 and what health condition is that exactly and where did you get that information?
@@Sanji_Vinsmoke_69 he mentioned it a few times in german podcasts, interviews and his youtube channel.
@@Sanji_Vinsmoke_69 Porphyria variegata
Chris definitely looks best ever this year. He is the biggest also. Very impressive
Not to mention CBum is just 27 years old and has already won 4 Olympias is just mind boggling to me when we know the fact that Breon is still killing it in his mid 40's
I never got why they placed terrance over breon last year, to me, breon has incredible shape and outline and in great condition and size too, should've been number 2 imo but his legs do seem noticeably downsized this year though, but even still I think he should've placed over Urs
Cbum looks 38
Mirrors Arnold with 6th win at 28 years old.
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@@pricklycats nope. Hairline
Really wish you had more time to do videos Tom because imo you are the best in the business at breaking everything down… better then all the other UA-camrs in this genre, which is high praise
@@Michael_Rr he’s said in recent videos that he doesn’t have the time to put out a ton of videos individually, that’s what I meant about more time
The crucifix was my favorite out of all the classic poses that anyone hit just because of ambition. It looks so unlike all the other poses that everyone else was hitting and really made him stand out in my opinion.
Also I really wish they would add more mandatory poses to classic like many others. The lat spreads would be so cool to see.
Yes the pose does make him stand out. But it doesn't flex his muscles at all, especially the quads. It doesn't showcase any of his good quality as compared to cbum's pose which pretty much showcases biceps, triceps, lats, quads, pecs etc
Sommerfield would kill it!
I thought Ramon hitting that as a favorite classic pose was a huge mistake for him. He kind of pulls it off but it makes him looks quite lenky and thin when standing next to Chris
@@tiddybagel Yup, if he could fill out it'd be great but not right now. He should switch.
@@nerdkidd8089 Chriss biceps aren't a strong point.
Chris looks unbeatable at this point, I don't see anyone beating him soon... just too good
I believe the only one with the body structure to beat him is Fabian, but he lacks muscle development still. Perhaps he will be a great contender in 2024
Nah his ribs structure kinda ruins it they're asymmetrical.
true man, it's kinda hard even for ramon dino he's on the height -weight cap. nxt year will be a battle of 2nd place again. but i bet for Urs.
The funniest part is cbum said him self he is about 6"ft and actually he was mesuered in shoes at barley 6"1 ft and dude mesuered his hair included so not pushed down! I think Chris is barley 6"ft to be honest! Since he isn't even that much taller than Dino I noticed that the last Olympias! There is no 2 inch difference between Dino and cbum no fkn way! Very very very fishy something is not right at the measurement at the O
@@jingelegjingelek4040 ik right! In stage they look the same height but look at this clip. ua-cam.com/users/shortsn4uCHdFRnXU?
Great coverage Tom as always. Chris could easily keep winning this as long as he’s willing to go and after weigh ins he said he still had a couple of more pounds he can add and I think he will keep going until he’s fully maxed out. 2lbs more on his arms may be the final death blow to everyone since he’s weighed in at 237.8 (not that he needs it to keep winning). To think this guy could win 10 in a row if he wanted it, is crazy! #5 coming next year.
This is by far Wesley's best showing. I think he's finally figuring out conditioning with his new coach though still has a ways to go. If he hadn't looked soft in the lower body from behind, I think he'd have been in 6th, not 8th. I thought he should have been above Fabian who only placed higher because of conditioning.
Wesley previously seemed to be pushing the weight cap, but I believe he weighed in at 2 kg below his weight cap in clothes, and that was for the 6'2-3" height when he ended up measuring at 6'3" (in the past he's measured just under at a few shows). If he can pull a Bumstead and figure out how to measure in at peak height every time, he'll be allowed 7 lb more weight which could equate overall to 12 lb+ more muscle on his frame on stage in peak condition, which I believe he needs in the glutes, hams/adductors, and low back to be competitive for top 3 eventually. He can't play the small tapered guy game, that's not his strength, he's more of a powerful Arnold-type physique with his good arms and broad clavicles. He's more akin to 70s aesthetic whereas some of the other guys are more 80s. Someone needs to make Wesley do some heavy deadlifts and high rep squats, I've followed his training for a while and he does too many machines. I know he's risk averse, but his back shots expose his lack of heavy barbell training.
However, I do appreciate that Wesley is conservative with how much mass he's putting on each season, slow and steady is how the old school guys did it.
I personally am not a huge fan of Ramon, I think he's too narrow. Although his back has good detail, he looks slim like a Men's Physique guy from behind. I also don't like his Sergio-esque peakless biceps. Urs honestly has the same problems.
Mike looks awesome, his structure reminds me so much of a wider Frank Zane. If he had been more conditioned he'd be a threat for the #2 spot.
Couldn't agree more👍
Year by year Chris just seems to get better, his conditioning this year was crazy yet he was still full.
Only thing that caught my eye was his left bicep, it seemed faded almost a little fuzzy/blurred looking. It didn’t detract a ton from his overall look and he still deserved to win but it was definitely something I noticed and I’m curious if something happened.
Chris definitely deserved the win, despite the competition making surprising gains in one year he still a head and shoulders above everyone else with a fair bit of breathing room. Congrats to Cbum for the 4th win, I hope he keeps going and racking up wins, and I’m genuinely curious how many he can take. I see at minimum a couple more he is just so near perfection for classic and keeps getting better.
Yeah, did ge get injured or something? That left bicep was very smooth. Actually reminded me of when dexter took synthol.
@@samraizshoaib585 i bet you already know the truth by now, it was a minor bicep tear. But cbum learns from his mistakes, we are all excited to see 2023 cbum with no flaw, and possibly at max weight cap.
The brazilian guy could do a beautiful "victory pose". He has those beautiful arms for it. Sergio Oliva was the best in victory pose.
I was really impressed with Wesley this year, I think he could have arguably been 7th or 6th
Arguable 3-5 IMO.
@@Dmgolfer22 I was hoping there would been a callout where he was closer to chris and Ramon, I'm pretty sure he could win somes poses on them
@@thebeast5054 He'd beat Ramon in a few I think but Chris clears him. I don't see him winning a single shot besides MAYBE the front double where id still take Chris.
@@Dmgolfer22 3rd isn't arguable...at all. Not even subjective. Not when he has zero detail from the rear.
@@mdc123-v2v yeah his lower body is a clear weakness. He’s not top 5, yet....
Urs gets a lot of hate, but I really like his physique. Draws my eye and does have that unique quality to it and his posing.
yeah you are totally right. Most brazillians were hating him, because he did actually beat ramon last year, but in classic olympia its not only about size!!!
Also he looked totally different live than on the stream . Everyone said that... these pictures don’t do him justice because you don’t see the conditioning. Urs has the frame, the posing, the energy and the conditioning and he improved in size. He was clearly better than breon and mike. The only controversial placement imo is Terrance at 6 . Wesley and Fabian looked better than him
@@merdankaya3719 are you joking? Brazilians don’t have him lol he is very popular here, he already came here and met all the influencers, people like him. It’s just competition, we always gonna cheer for our country.
@@Aldo1850 really??? I saw plenty of commets under Olympia Videos, where i Google translated comments with "Urs" in it and they all mentioned, that he was to small, placed to high, had baby arms... you get it. Maybe i just saw to less to judge. Did not know, he is popular in brazil.
I think urs has the best lower body in the division (from the front at least) and is his stand out bodypart, I feel like he knows this and deliberately stands the way he does
I’m so happy that Breon Smoked Terrence. He should’ve beat Urs too. Urs literally has a baby back and baby arms
Yeah like idk why they keep pushing urs so hard. He’s not there yet
Nah, he has a significantly better structure than breon, lol.
@@spottsfreund dennis wolf had better structure than phil & kai
why he didn't beaten them
@@kshitijthakur8324no calves, bad disproportionately small arms, too high lats, not enough separation. If anything, Urs is way closer to Breon than Dennis is to Phil and Kai. Plus, Breon is stocky and has bad legs.
The only thing Ramon has over Chris are his arms. Everything else is Chris by light years. Until someone else comes along with superior structure, Chris is going to continue to dominate this division.
And abs. Yea Chris can do the vacuum but it looks way too soft compared to other athletes. Definitely a popularity contest.
@@SuperPhoReal Cbum deservedly won this competition. If you scored Ramon over Chris in this competition then you're smoking something, it was Chris by a mile
@@SuperPhoReal popularity contest? If arms and abs are the only thing you can fault in Chris physique you’re an idiot. Chris is too big, to conditioned and is the clear winner of all the athletes lol it’s not even close
@@krosses7156 read again, I didn’t say Ramon. Indeed his overall physique stood out, but abs still softer than most other athletes.
I just don't understand how chris can come in so much bigger than everyone else. I think the weight caps rules need some reevaluation because cbum looks like 15-20 lbs bigger proportionally than any other competitor.
Agreed. It's weird how he can look so massive and filled out compared to others yet said he doesn't struggle to make weight.
Yup. Exactly my thoughts. They were 7~8kg apart, Chris would need to be WAY off for anyone to beat him. Up to the shoulders they look almost the same height, it's just unfair that he's able to be so much bigger. 8kg of stage weight is too much even for open monsters weighting 120kg+, let alone for classic dudes close to 100kg.
@@propletrelooxretlitre5705 You talk about bone density but since you go this way bone width should be considered too. Black guys have a smaller bone width than white guys in general.
Bone density that’s why he isn’t that strong
the only thing that Chris needs to focus on is trying to minimize the injuries. He already injured his quads, his hamstrings and probably his bicep. At the moment none of those injuries were serious for his career, but he definitely should change something in his training if he's getting so often injured while being so young
100%. At this point he's gotta back off the weights a bit and go more for "stimulate, not annihilate". He doesn't need to grow much, just refine and stay healthy.
@@Tomn8er couldn’t agree any less
I'm glad you said it wasn't even close between Chris and Dino. Most said Dino was really pushing Chris but only because he was runner up.
“most said”, no one said it lol
@@RafPvP all brazilians fans were saying it
@@g_webb21 no they werent, you saw a few and generalized
@@g_webb21 everyone agrees Cbum won every pose, even the brazillians. But even cbum himself gave respect to Ramon and basically said he is waiting for next year to be a challenge. So Ramon did put pressure in Cbum, but more in a hopeful manner that they can be rivals. They are all very friendly also, which is very nice.
@@g_webb21 im brazilian and i can tell you, everyone here agree that Cbum is the Champion by far.
Breon gets screwed over in placing year after year. He looked better than at least 3 people placed ahead of him
Chris is ahead by such a margin. Nobody is even pushing him and he keeps getting better. It's absurd.
Yeah, he kinda destroyed Ramon, but i think if weight cap is changed, some of the competitors would be closer.
Breon looked phenomenal, Ramon looked awesome as well, Mike is a diamondin the rough... Chris was on another level
Cbum is so far ahead in his division. I just can’t believe how good this guy is
He’s “grown” 2 inches in the past 2 years
Every inch he “grows” he can put on 10LBS
so
The reason he is so far ahead
Is because he is the ONLY athlete that never has an issue being close to the weight cap
He wins every single mandatory. There's never been a bodybuilder in any division that has been able to pull that off before. Arguably the most dominant bodybuilder in history.
@@gabrielpeterson3991 yes. I was actually meaning to put in a bit about how they need to redefine a perfect score. What is currently called a perfect score needs to be renamed a "unanimous win" or something, and this right here, being able to beat every other competitor in every single pose, that is a perfect score. Even if they added back the other missing mandatories, I suspect he'd still clean up in those as well.
@@gabrielpeterson3991 maybe Dorian Yates? Not the prettiest physique, but perfect on mandatories...
@@Henrique.Souza0601 front double and side chest was a bit weak, front double especially after his bicep tear.
I feel like they need to raise the weight cap in this division. Imagine these guys with 10 more pounds to play with. They end up looking sucked in and depleted with no pop by showtime because of the current weight limit. It gives some of the guys unfair advantages.
I don't know about raising the weight cap, but changing the height vs weight would be welcome. Cbum has a freaking long neck and that gives him a really unfair advantage near every other competitor. The difference of 2cm to be able to put +10lbs seems just off. We saw Chris butchering Dino mostly because of his 8kg ~ 20lbs more in the weight cap. This is too much for 2 open guys, let alone CP ones who are close to 100kg. There's no way Dino or any other guy who needs to hit 101kg will ever be able to top a guy weighting 10% more than they do with less than 4% difference in height.
@@Henrique.Souza0601 that’s the unfair advantage I was eluding to. I just didn’t specify the weight cap relative to height.
If they raise the weight cap then its open division 2.0
I nearly lost it when you mentioned how similar a lot of these guys look. I absolutely agree, and I’ve lost some interest in this division for that exact reason. I think classic competitors have a “I need to look as much like Chris as I can” mentality, so if he’s doing a vacuum, they feel they have to as well. I think Alex and Michael should drop it as you mentioned, but I do think it helps breon a lot in that ab and thigh. To me, he looks less blocky in it and the vacuum masks his lack of bilateral separation through the core. I think a big reason people don’t think breon is as aesthetic is because it looks like he has a wide waist, and I disagree. Breon might have a slightly wider waist than other competitors, but I think his main issue is that is waist is short, not wide. Look at where his waist ends in comparison to his last and rib cage. Then do the same thing with a guy like Ramon. Breon waist looks blockier because it’s shorter, and I think the vacuum helps him elongate and slim down his waist.
the weight cap is not helping either. With such a strict range competitors will try to look as complete as possible, so they will not work on their strong points. I think if Arnold competed in today's classic physique he would have much bigger legs, but his chest and biceps would probably look not as impressive because otherwise he would exceed the weight limit
I always compared Cbum to Haney, not just shape but his stage presence and domination. I always considered Haney as the prototype for Classic division, the last Mr. O before the Mass Monster. Just like Haney, Cbum has dominated on stage and off stage acted with poise.
You can expose Chris’ weakness in the biceps, but he utterly destroys from the back in every regard.
Ramon is comparable from the front, it’s when they turn around that there isn’t even a question who Mr. Olympia is.
It's undeniable that Cbum has maintained a massive lead over Ramon, but if we look at Ramon Dino's meteoric rise, we see that he's been climbing the ranks drastically. Many people said that Dino couldn't beat Ruff and Urs, leaving Ramon out of the top 3, but we saw what happened on stage... Chris Bumstead really evolved and maybe arrived in his best shape right now, but Ramon is transforming every competition, and he will be the most dangerous in 2023. Will we see a new epic battle like Ronnie and Jay? I'm very excited !
i think weight caps need to be reassessed...Ramon was at his cap this olympia and he would clearly need to add size to compete with chris, specially the lats. I think that should be something the organizers should look into imo
I dont think he can just add 10 cm to his lat width with a higher weight cap. He will never beat Chris as long as Chris competes
Ramon wasnt at his cap lol he was 4.5 pounds under his weight cap
@@RafPvP yeah I know, still though, almost at his cap. For context, Chris was 12lbs below his cap last yr and at his cap this yr. 2021 Chris still demolishes ramon. My point is, the weight caps should be revised
@@RafPvP Ramon is measured at 5”11 and Chris at 6’2 I believe…there’s just not enough space or room for Ramon to grow enough or have enough weight to add size to his lats….Chris will beat him every time as I think he still has a little room to grow 🤣
People talking about how Chris has got 1 more Olympia title in him. I completely disagree. He is still so far ahead of everyone, he literally won every single pose hands down, I believe that if he wanted he could win the most Olympias ever. He should be pushing for 10, not 5.
Terrence is getting dwarfed. Hes simply too short.
I think you're being a little harsh on Terrence. I get being short he doesn't have the stage presence sandwiched in between 2 guys so much taller than him, but to me he is without a doubt the most aesthetic and complete guy in every pose in that lineup. I feel like with Breon and Urs, it's honestly a coin flip. If you value aesthetics, it's Urs. If you value completeness, it's Breon. The utter dominance of CBum the past 2 years is ridiculous, he's mopping the floor with everyone and it's not even close.
There's a noticeable gap between CBum and Dino when the two were compared side-to-side. However, when you compare Dino to the top 3-5 guys, he's also miles ahead from them and we can see this gap as well. For the next few years, these two will probably keep separating themselves from the rest of the pack and we might be looking into the next Ronnie vs. Jay generation. So excited for the years to come!!
I love Wesley's physique he looks the closest thing to an old school bodybuilder than most classic physique competitors.
I agree. His "weak" parts aid in that look, I opine.
@@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST yea I agree, people say his lats are too high but I think he pulls it off
i agree but for now he just needs more mass and thickness. he got a future, the conditioning is also on point
Theres a lot of Breon's back shots that make me think of Dorian Yates. And for what it's worth, I actually really like him hitting a vacuum too.
I love the emphasis on conditioning in classic but I do wish we had some more balance to it. You nailed it, everyone looks too depleted. But a consequence of the weight caps.
To me, Ramon Dino is too arm dominant and a bit too narrow through the shoulders and back. In the open, i think it's okay to have dominant body parts but classic physique should be all about symmetry and proportions imo.
That's why Bumstead is the clear cut winner. His flow and symmetry is just a step above everyone else in the division. There's not a single muscle group that looks like it's overpowering the rest of his body. Just insane flow and proportions.
@@propletrelooxretlitre5705 I agree. Brandao would sweep the Classic. Looks too good for an Open guy. Based on how he looks, I suspect his cocktail of anabolic enhancing substances is small and carefully dosed. He is definitely not on hardcore, heroic anabolic doses.
@@propletrelooxretlitre5705 Brandao vs Bumstead would be a hell of a matchup!
@@Tomn8er its just impossible for that to happen, Brandao would have to lose 40+ lbs of stage weight.
@@propletrelooxretlitre5705 then its literally open division ... The weight cap is fine
Cbum won 3 titles havind amateur arms,look at the huge lack of proportion between his arms and lats in the previous years
Why don't they judge the Lat Spreads and Side Tricep in the Classic Physique!? I don't understand why they're not being judged since they were in the 70s.
Tom there can't be Arnolds, Robinsons, Haney and Olivas here. You are forgetting that the competitors are weight restricted on this division. Somehow, some way, only cbum gets to have some wiggle room on his weight that helps produce some wow factor you are talking about. Look what happened to Urs. He was hyper aware of his weight months before the competition because he was already on the weight cap. Now, how can he possibly grow his arms and back without being disqualified?
Aware of the weight caps. It was sort of a rhetorical question and a criticism of the overly restrictive limits CP imposes.
Do they not train calves?
Hey man, you gonna keep making videos after the Olympia hype? Or you just here for the bump in Olympia views?
Idk why in the world they did a CBum Dino callout (well, I do - it's politics - they see $$$$ via his giant rabid Brazilian fanbase - and so were hard-core courting / kowtowing to them). Would have really like to see Dino in the 2nd callout because it would have been a lot more interesting. Same thing going on with the Rafael placement (love his physique, but he had no place near that top 10). Also they totally did Breon dirty. He's definitely not his best, but he's still just so good and beats Ramon imo. At the very least, it's super close and a deserving comparison. It's like they've just "decided" to slowly phasing him out. It's such a crock of shit. Phase him out when he deserves to be phased out, not because it's convenient for ushering in the new, more popular young guys.
Dude I urge you to watch every other analysis of CP finals to understand how wrong you're seeing things. It's common sense that nobody had any chance with Dino the same way he had no chance with Cbum. Breon has the best back on the division and that's it. No other body part of his stands out and the legs are way smaller than they were supposed to be. Brandao not being too 10 is really your opinion/head cannon, dude has a flawless physique that only needs more mass to be at top 5, he beat guys that were bigger because either they lacked his proportions or were pretty off on condition and posing, all criteria that are judged and that he was almost flawless.
@@propletrelooxretlitre5705 lol Ramon is just better than everyone except Chris
I love Nick's Strength and Power but this breakdown is what I crave. This is how you get into a sport, someone guiding you and showing what's happening. Small critique, I would honestly just keep the names at the bottom the whole video.
Opinion on Cbums left bicep? Injury? Seo? His left arm nearly doubled in size and the lines/split between bi/tri is completely gone in the front double.
He prob had a minor tear
It wouldn't make any sense for him to only use it in one arm. I've seen so much speculation about chris having tears, inflammation, using SEO's and etc. But none actually knows other than Chris himself and I think we should just wait for him to adress it instead of making random speculations.
@@JAMESmmmmmm yeah for sure, agreed
If you look closely he had biceps like that since 2017 but now is more noticeable
I think it is just bad genetic on that bicep
@@paklenim9989 but it looks visibly swollen/inflammed, look at any previous year, there is noticeable differences in separation, something definitely happened
One thing thats commonly overlooked is calves. Urs has awesome calves and this really sets him apart from breon.
Breon was robbed again. People are trying to push him out because of his age.
Or maybe for another reason...
@@skunkusmunkus9385 yea could be for other reasons also. Politics at its best that why it’s hard to get behind bodybuilding because a lot of times the best person doesn’t win. It’s so subjective.
People are starting to see it, the classic guys are starting to get very popular very fast. CBum leading the way of course but the majority of this top 10 has some star power
So true about the Haney comparison. I recall one Olympia Haney got called out once, and that was it. Standing relaxed he had already won.
I often saw Gunnar Røsbø working out at Harald's Gym in Oslo in the '80s. The man was a beast and his forearms were astounding. Nice assessment of the line-up, Tomn8er. :)
I’m glad I’m not the only one that thinks Cbum is just miles ahead of the rest. Comparing him to Ramon, he’s way wider, thicker in the legs and more shredded and drier, much larger and thicker and wider back. Much larger chest circumference. His muscle maturity is on another level. And from the back glutes and lower body, Chris was destroying Ramon. Honestly Breon should have been second this competition, he was the only one that can come close to Chris. Urs is also far behind imo, dude looks stringy, with lagging/small body parts like back and arms that don’t match his legs. I’m not really a fan of his overall shape but he does bring good conditioning
CBum’s posing are more refined and on point. that for me is the x-factor aside from his overall proportion. Ramon’s advantage is his arms, especially that forearm, cant help but notice that
whoever designed that flickering lightning wall stage needs to go. Atleast the light has been a proper on this one unlike the dark main.
Very good showing for Wesley. Been a fan of him for years!
Chris looks bigger this year too. Chris just destroyed everyone. No one came close to him. He had a very commanding win and he fully deserves it
From what I understand wesley may actually be heavier than arnold in 75. But let's be honest, arnold looked much much better. There was something kinda magic about the physique of the 70s that seems to be irreproductible today:
-the proportions (today: bigger legs, bigger ass, smaller arms, smaller pecs, smaller calves)
-the tone of the muscle (they are leaner today but there are less striations, the muscle is less "alive")
-the absence of stellar bodyparts (arnold biceps, sergio arms, lou pecs...)
I understand why there's a weight cap. They want to keep things under control and healthier but it will prevent from seeing physiques like the greats of the 70s or marvels of the 80/90 like clairmonte, 93 flex wheeler or 80s benfatto.
Think about it, francis benfatto not be able to compete in that category, really?
Just realise that chris only started working with Hany in september and he already brought his best package ever. Imagine what a full year with Hany will do. I tell you we will not have another classic physique champion until Chris retires...
Yah I mean cbum actually dominated this year, with Terrance being super off and breon just being at his classic limits he literally destroyed the stage this year, probably the most convincing win in any division in the last few years
I never follow classic too closely but holy Moses is cbum running away with it. It's honestly shocking how he seems years ahead of the pack this Olympia. I always feel bad for Breon tho. That guy is near flawless every year and I feel like he's always snubbed a bit. Either way, best Olympia of the last 20+ years imo.
I'm always gonna root for Chris but if Ramon works really hard this off-season, improves his biceps, chest and upper back along with how he positions himself relative to the judges (notice how Chris pushes his lower body forwards and upper back backwards during the back double bicep to appear wider), he could become a fierce competitor for next years top spot.
Cbum look like a moving statue. Just absolute perfection.
If no Cbum, Breon and Ramon shall make an interesting competition.
Congrats to Chris for his forth consecutive win. Great show. The big problem with this show is the ridiculously low prize money. It makes no sense. Especially now that the Classic Physique Mr Olympia is getting more and more popular with the fans.
The big problem of this division is the weight cap!
Breon is underrated, crazy condition and muscle maturity
the best double bicep for me. but the lower body is his weakness, and the waist not too small in terms of proportion compared to others like terence.
Chris is only 27!!! wow. really i thought he is 32-37 years old. But greaaaat physique. Urs deserved his third place ! best line. but he should do this vaqum poses toooo much.
Im not a huge fan of the direction classic physique is going. Chris, Breon, Ramon and Terrence are the only notable physiques I’ve seen so far, with Terrence being my favourite. Not a huge fan of the really tall guys, they’re just a bit too stringy.
"really tall" lol they're like 6'2 at max. That's closer to average height than Breon and Terrence are.
Chris and Ramon are the same age. But when it comes to training, dieting and all other things Ramon is way behind cause of his poor background. Ramon has improved a lot and probably once he gets that back closer to Cbum and improves his posing im sure he will give Chris a good battle.
Thank you! I literally never saw the things in Ruff as the judges. Small and no wauw effect.
Totally agree that Breon should have placed above Urs. No wonder he wants out of that division after decisions like that.
Disappointing to see they are still going with the big flashy LED background. Drives me nuts.
Keep up the great work Tomn8er. Best BB channel on UA-cam.
Cbum is pilling up injuries though, hamstrings, right quad, left biceps, his shoulders almost needed surgery last year.
He may not be able to keep competing at this pace.
That's true and it's the only thing that could realistically take him down sooner than expected. Hope he starts adjusting his training style because he lifts like a beast but that type of heavy free weight training takes a high toll on the muscles and joints.
The weight cap for these guy’s is still to low…😊
We love you Tom. Miss when you weren't semi-retired but understand you have to live your life.
I personally love Terrence’s physique. The way it flows, his low lat insertions, the small rib cage, the round sweep on the quads, and his thick back. He looks straight from the 70s in my opinion.
Same, if Terrence was taller he'd be flawless to me.
stop it. nobody in the 70s looked like him, they all had bigger arms and chest
Agreed i love his physique he looks like an action figure and i think that’s why he places so high. This year he just was so watery.
I agree with you 100 percent about Terrance. He is just too small. And looks soft
Chris was amazing this year. He's still one of my favorite Bodybuilders of all time. And moral of the story, every judge in the Olympia hates Wesley and that's stupid.
Totally agree about the vacuums.
Same tired of them. Abs and thighs and only one person showing their abs. Like come on
He has a great video about them, wish more people would talk about different ribcage structures.
I always thought of Breon as a smaller ( shorter ) version of Haney …. Just tons of detail and roundness…the most complete back in the division; Cbum has the wider lats, but Breon has him with thickness …unfortunately he has to lean down so much to make the weight cap, he does lose some fullness … but conditioning is always on point …should’ve gotten 3rd
soo happy you covered this! hope your doing well.
I liked Fabian Mayr, conditioned and everything.
I have go disagree man, it cant get more classic than ruffins physique, yes he was about 2 weeks out still but comeonnnnnn that's a beautifullllll physique
I would've like to see CBUM go head to head with Hadi, yes Hadi has him on muscle mass but CBUM has him everywhere else and just makes Hadi look ugly.
CBUM also has superior posing, the winner of "Open", "Classic" and "211" go head to head for an "overall" title 💯💪💪💪
As some others have commented, there's something wrong about weight cap according to height. The shape of his head and his long neck give him an obvious advantage. How weird and fair a competition is when such criteria become important in a bbing competition...
Hany Rambod is a crazy wizard
13:26 I like how they touch each other, this shows 2 confident men with no insecurities !! And I don't wanna hear that _gaaay_ bs.
Great analysis man!
If you could leave the names on the bottom that would be great. I don’t really know the lesser known people but I’d love to learn about them because nonetheless they still have a great physique. I just don’t really wanna go back and forth to where you put the names in the beginning you know? Great commentating tho!
Nice to see aesthetics is back in body building following the mass monster bubble gut era.
Tomb8er is a world-class bodybuilding analyst. Seriously, you should become a judge
You hit the nail on the head with your take on the vacuum pose. It's Ab and thighs and with some guys it smooths out the abs too much and it looks odd.
i don't see how they placed urs above breon.
Breon showed almost Phil Heath like muscle control setting up that back double bi.
I love Wesley's physique. I have never understood why he seems to get ignored in a lot of these shows. Maybe a little too "classic" or "golden era".
i like wesley too, but sorry man, today they are looking for a bit of mass and density with aesthetic appeal.
Mike could definitely be top 3 if he brings the conditioning
I Would Have Wesley Vissers In The Top 4 Easily.
These guys have the physiques I desire, not the Open guys.
You are the Bumstead of bodybuilding analysis
Can we appreciate how Wesley is literally carving his phisique year after year. At his Olympia debut he had so many weak spots and he`s consistently fixing them one by one. I never thought this guy could build up his legs and now he has one of the biggest and most seperated quads from the front. The only thing that`s stopping him from top 6 rn is the fullnes and and conditioning on his legs from the back.
Terrance never made sense to me how high he has been placing. Good they put him where he belongs
The fact that Chris has accomplished so very much while suffering through serious kidney disease (IgA Nephropathy) is difficult to believe.
Love your analysis tomen8er, BUT Urs absolutely smokes Mike in that rear double ?! Back may not be as wide, but tones more definition throughout. Legs look much bigger including that quad sweep, more pealed glutes/hammies, better calves. Mike looks so soft through the mid back to me.
I’ve been looking for a video like this to understand bodybuilding competitions judging cause to me they all look the same, and now I understand why cbum is so hyped, he’s INSANE, no competition. Thank you!
Biggest robberies to me were Gabe Zancanelli and Chen Kang, both of them looked better than Fabian to me but placed way lower. Both easily could have deserved to be in that callout for me.