Yes You Do Need A Graphic EQ Pedal! Plus: Latest Kingsley Jester
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2015
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In this episode, Daniel and Mick explore the basics of the much maligned graphic EQ pedal, and how it can be immensely useful on your pedalboard.
Using a standard Boss GE-7, they explain how you can use an EQ pedal as a global tone shaper, a solo boost, a rhythm cut and also to shape the sound of your overdrive sounds, depending where you place it in the signal chain.
If you're having problems cutting through a mix, retaining clarity in your sound or need something to help with volume cuts or boosts, a graphic EQ pedal could be the very thing.
They also take a brief look at the latest Kingsley Jester valve overdrive pedal, using it as the filth maker in all of today's tones. For more on the Jester, go here: kingsleyamplifiers.com
Amps used are the Mallard 18-watt Marshall clone into a 2x12 with Greenbacks and a Lazy J 20 combo. Dan is playing his 2002 Gibson Custom 1958 Les Paul Standard, and Mick is playing his Fender American Vintage ’62 Stratocaster. As always, switching is handled effortlessly by TheGigRig G2.
For more on TheGigRig, see www.thegigrig.com
A simple 30 dollar danelectro eq pedal saves my rig. I was about ready to scrap the entire thing and start over until I watched this. Possibly saved me a thousand dollars. Thank you for what you do!
Never realised how versatile this could be. Definitely one of the best guitar related UA-cam channels at the moment. You guys make me wanna buy gear without actively trying to sell it.
I love the pseudo student-teacher way of doing all your videos. It encourages an un-biased approach to everything.
after years of pursuing tons of different pedals it finally came to me that the most important one is the EQ before preamp and within FX loop... life has been so good since then
pieroog you are correct sir best thing you can do for your tone by far.
How can you have the EQ before the preamp and in the fx loop ?? The preamp is before the fx loop
+Harry Souter mmmm... having 2 of them?
+Harry Souter When you consider the pre-amp as the spot you plug into your amplifier or amp-head then the entire fx loop takes place before the pre-amp, however there are ways to put inserts on post amplification... however I don't think many people really do that.
+Tarkhun Fora you're only confusing people, very few amps have the fx loop before the preamp.. i cant think of any. and yes, many people use fx after the power section by using a line out or wet-dry rig.
I used to have an Orange Tiny Terror, which has the one knob eq, and I was having such a bad time every night i had a concert, so i decided to buy a Ge-7 and place it at the end of my fx chain. That really saved my tone. An Eq pedal is the easiest way to get as close as possible to the sound in your head in any live situation.
Never in a million years would have thought to add a EQ pedal. After this video I bought a EQD Tone job and it added a whole new life into my rig!
Thanks for such an informative and well presented video!
put it in the loop man
i know, a year ado, but i will ask anyway, how do you like the tonejob as compared to a graphic eq?
anyday82 I can't remember what made me try the boss EQ pedal but when I added it to my setup I wanted to kick myself for not getting one 20 years ago.
The eq pedal is by far the most underrated pedal ever!!! I loved this episode! Discovering eq pedals years ago changed the way I set up guitar and bass rigs forever......
After years of chasing better sounds with new pedals these videos have unlocked the real potential of what I already own, thanks guys!
Great to hear, thanks Peter ;)
Dan/Mick, I just caught onto this channel and wow, your videos are terrific! The knowledge and insight you bring from working with the professional artists you have is invaluable to any guitar player (like me) that wants the scoop on these pedals, their applications, there caveats, and more. Loved this video on the EQ pedal and how to tune your lead EQ to cut through the other low frequencies for solos. Excellent work!
Great conversation about amps vs pedals vs EQ in a band context. Love it. You guys have such great wisdom to impart. Thank you!
2nd time through the vid, so I get a 2nd comment.. ( :
I have an EQ in my loop right now, but I can easily see using 3 EQ pedals.
1. In loop-Covers overall tone. 2. Before my Deluxe Big Muff to control it better. More shaping of its tonal output and volume. 3. As a lead boost which allows shaping of lead tone exactly how you like.
I'm not fond of the idea of doing a continual pedal dance while playing so a pedal controller would also be ideal for this type of rig.
Listen up boys and girls. The EQ pedal is the most versatile and useful pedal you will ever own. ...and they are cheap.
That's a win for everyone.
I have 3 band EQ in my mini mixer, the Boss EQ, the EQ in my Source Audio envelope filter, and EQ, at the end of my chain in my amp modeler/DI. And I still want 2 more EQ's!
This is one of the most informative explanations of the various attributes an EQ pedal can offer, tinged with some other vicarious gems such as rolling off the bass so your solos to cut through the band mix. Yet another excellent session guys , thank you.
Great show. Love that these shows are getting longer and even more informative. I Iike all the cool boutique gear you use but it's also refreshing to see a cheap pedal in the spotlight.
Watching this again 2 years later and it is still super informative! Legends...
ive always used EQs and have always asked myself why guitarists dont use it more...its by far the best pedal i own...i even have two of them, one right after the overdrive, and one in the loop..love both, they are always on..always..
Absolutely the clearest and easiest to follow video that Ive ever seen you guys do.
Enjoyed! : )
This show is awesome, my day sorted! Scooping that 250hz range is so so good for cranking an OD pedal hard on a neck pup without losing clarity, absolute foundation of my tone.
So much nostalgia in these old videos. The very first one I saw you guys in was the "Carbon Copy Bright" video, and since then, I've seen them all, learned so much, and made so many improvements to my tone. I just wanted to let you guys know that SOLELY based on this and reinforced by your "That Pedal Show" video with Simon Jarrett from Kingsley pedals I ordered a Jester today. I've gotten skilled at reading your faces when there's an "overtone angel" in the room when you're demonstrating gear, and I've never seen you (Dan especially) react to gear as intensely.
I've always been a multieffects unit player or modeler . I've recently decided to set up a rig with individual pedals and you guys are such a help, Thank you!
You’re so welcome 😉
Every guitar player should watch this video. It gives you an understanding of your place in the band and the mix by explaining in a simple way how frequenties and eq work. Much low end sounds great in your bedroom, but not in a band mix, that's where the bass player comes in.
Thank you so much for this (and all of your videos), Dan. I bought a GE-7 after seeing this one and it has immensely helped my tone. I mainly use it to push my overdrive just as you explained - a concept I've never heard anyone touch on. (I couldn't believe my ears when you did that!) I've learned a ton from watching your videos here and on the TPS channel, can't thank you enough!
I use an EQ pedal to boost mids, and then cut lows and highs. It's perfect for the ''nasal'', almost like a subtle cocked Wah effect, but with distortion. It sounds like the Ronni Le Tekrø tone from the TNT album Tell No Tales or Intuition.
Absolutely loving this channel at the minute guys, recently been infatuated with pedals for my rig and I'm learning so much from you guys. Keep up the good work!
Even has helped a pedal using wind player like me too! Sax, flute, harmonica, and electric violin.
Always brilliant information in your shows. Thanks!
You guys have got the most consistently brilliant guitar tone on youtube. It's always a pleasure to watch and listen! Keep it up!
Ah, cheers mate :)))))
Like now, I often find myself looking back over older episodes and getting much from them. This ep was no exception. Very helpful and as a fellow Aussie of similar age I really can relate to you, Dan. Thank you both for your work here, however much fun you may be having, and I know that you're having a ball you're not just helping the newbies. I'm a trained classical player but did spend some time in my 20's playing in cover bands, hey the '90s were a fun time to strut onstage - tell me I'm wrong.
To the faces behind the cameras, thank you for helping to cover up all of the mistakes of the pretentious 'Talent' that you must deal with. - Jesting, Dan & Mick. Crew - Not really :-)
Thanks all at TPS :-)
Great info guys on all your shows. Keep up the good work as its very simple yet precise info we need . Thanks xx
A very interesting and informative video. It's great listening to you both. Thanks.
I just recently discovered these videos I've been watching them all. I think they're great learning tools. There aren't any that are specific aimed for bassplayers (except one...), but I think I learned a lot from watching these about the interaction between amps, pickups, pedals & pedal combinations and what they can do in different locations on a pedal board, and about gitarists that do or don't know how to use all of these tools. Great! Most of the information presented is as usefull to bassists as it is for guitarists, the most obvious difference might be the combinations of gain stages and different types of amps (most bassists don't use full valve amps), that might be a little tricky...
I've had an EQ on my board since I found out Rhoads used one in 1980, '81 or so. Later found out that EVH and Lynch used them as well. Such a great way to shape the distortion and also goose the input of the distortion with clean boost to make legato play effortless. Great video.
Excellent show guys!!! I have a vintage DOD FX40B equalizer and I love the tone. I run it at the beginning of the chain and find that it actually works like a mild compressor that adds a subtle but highly desirable tone boost even with no other pedals engaged.
I really wish we had UA-cam and your channel in the 80s. I've learned so much from your videos. Thanks for doing all these.
Killer video again, guys!
Wow, so glad I caught this video. I'm literally just on my way out the door to go play my boogie express 5:50 and experiment with my graphic EQ. Thanks as always for the awesome stuff.
Fantastic lesson Dan and Mick! Also remember the Kraken has that bass focus switch!
Excellent video, I now look at EQ Pedals very differently, the fact that the Mesa Mark V having one built in, say's a lot for EQ, thank you and greetings from Melbourne Australia!
Just ordered an Empress ParaEQ. Many years ago I had an graphic eq pedal but stopped using it for no particular reason. I recently remembered this and how it really can bring your sound to life if used judiciously. I'm think I'll be placing it after my compressor but before the drive pedals, but I'll experiment and see what happens after the drive pedals too! Thanks for the clip guys!
Yes sir. EQ and Compression are essential for any audio signal path. Recording/mixing, guitar rig or what have you. Excellent episode as always.
so glad i found these guys!
Great show guys!
Brilliant video as usual guys
Forgot to talk about how you can use the EQ to even out the differences between guitars. Some guitars are so different that you find yourself reaching for the knobs on your amp all the time. An EQ pedal can solve this. Say just to take away some of the low end on the les paul, after setting up the rig to sound great with your strat.
Really good call Adam :)
This video was enlightening. Especially that tip from Karnivool using one at the end on the chain to EQ a room. That's just fantastic. But everything in this broke my misconception of EQ pedals. Thanks!!!
That Jester is sounding amazing. Another great episode guys!
Thanks Jessica, it's such a killer OD :)
very informative. thank you. For those interested I use the Boss Ge-7 with a Roland Street Ex, however I play a Roland Fr3x accordion. The Ge-7 is great for a digital accordion.
Great video. I just got the MXR six band eq and it made my rig come alive. It was the missing ingredient in my chain!
That was very informative! I think you two just solved a problem for me! Thanks! 🤟🏻
Hi Daniel, could you ever make a video of an example of tuning to the room? Never really thought about this before and sounds interesting.
Thanks,
John
You covered it very briefly at the end, but you can also use the EQ pedal as a pseudo clean sound running it straight into a gained up single-channel amp. There's a video somewhere of Paul Gilbert explaining that trick that he used to use a lot. I've tried it and it works surprisingly well if you dial it in right. It's an effective "cut" of your guitars output & tone together, to basically drive the preamp less.. Sounds crazy I know! haha, Great video guys, keep them coming! Cheers.
Joe Walsh uses the same EQ you are at the end of his board to tune the room. It works.
Believe it or not the little green eq from Danelectro is much more musical. I’ve used both.
Holy shit Vsauce got old
PCasino And british
I quite recently bought GE-7 £64 off reverb an it is without doubt one best pedals on my board I originally bought it within intention trying to stop tube screamer shelving off low end when used as boost.
Because everytime I’d stack Plexitone with clean boost wouldn't matter what I did it would just give me bright fizzy sound with no bottom end.
I love my GE7 🤘
So needed to hear this. Thx- ub
a very underrated video. very informative!
The idea of EQ into overdrive pedal is insanely good!! BTW for those in search of a good, affordable EQ pedal, the JOYO pedal is great at a fantastic price!
A tip for when you do A/B comparisons, like around 24:30 when you just started messing around with the EQ along with the strat; always volume match. It doesn't have to be a perfect volume match but atleast roughly close. We (humans) like loud things. That's the entire reason for the loudness war. So when your EQ:ed sound is noticably louder by 3-4 dB we will naturaly percive it as better, when in fact it might not be. If you want to truly tell which sounds better, always compare the two sounds at equal volume. A part from that I appreciate your videos, so keep it up!
Love the show! Very informative. Can you do an episode on the switching system that you are using? I know it involves loops.
I have 2 BOSS EQs on my board, one into my JMP cutting gain to create a clean channel, and another in the loop boosting the volume back up again ;)
Again, another great video! Thanks guys.
Q: can you do a video about drive pedals over a clean amp vs. drive pedals over an already driven amp? That would be great.
I am not tired watching this video.. really good.. thanks guys for teaching us beginners what to buy, what to do and where to put them in board.. now I know that I only need e.q to reach the sound that I like.. \m/
I've found that when a guitarist is playing alone and he thinks he needs more bass, it might be because he's thinking of the way a guitar tone sounds together with a bass guitar.
Yes!
I wish my fellow guitarist would grasp this. He has great "bedroom tone" but in a mix he's lost, frequencies completely wrong in a band/live mix context. The Bass player needs to learn this lesson as well. ALL bottom end, no lower mids, no "twang" which I think is often neglected by Bassists
That's a very interesting thought. Could definitely be true. When you search for tone, You always go by the sounds you hear on recordings and there is usually bass involved. If no bass, the guitar is probably eq'd for just that section where it's alone.
Your bass player will thank you for leaving some sort of sonic space for them to do their thing. Because, if the bass player is listening to the mix, he/she may well just back out and stop playing so as not to add more mud to the mix.
Ive found thru octave pedals, extended range guitars and synths that bass players are obsolete
Confirmed my thoughts and ideas.
That bears a striking resemblance to my board. Strymons + POG = amazing.
thank you again gentlemen
That settles it. I'm buying one and sticking it in my bag for emergencies. Who knows when I'll need to use a foreign amp and have to change my eq.
Learned a lot in this video, thanks a bunch!
I just discovered the Source Audio EQ. It has four presets and is midi-switchable, which works fantastic for multi-guitar rigs. I can set up one preset for my Les Paul, one for my strat, and one for my shredder. I love having the ability to pull out the honk or the face melting bands. It'll also save the boost for each preset, if you want to set up a solo patch. I'm taking what I learn from you guys to the next level! I totally needed a graphic EQ. :)
That Kingsley pedal sounds amazing. I may have to rethink my rig.
A great use for an EQ pedal is to tame a really cranked amp. Think Greensday's Basketcase. Put the EQ on to cut all he frequencies and volume for the first verse then kick it off when the band comes in.
another great video. I've always felt EQ pedals are under rated/a dirty word in the guitar world but my MXR 10 band EQ is so handy i could never part ways with it :)
keep up the good work guys and see you next week.
Just got a present from a friend the EHX Graphic fuzz.very cool
I think you make a great show! One of the best on UA-cam! One thing... it’s not a boost, if you equaliser all donw the pedal don’t push nothing, the otter way.
With all the incredible amount of info you guys cover you should have hundreds of thousands of views. Every serious guitarist needs to see this shit.
Funny how I came across this. I was just telling a buddy of mine an eq was next on my list. I have several dirt boxes to cover all the basic dirty sounds I could want from slight boosted signal or slight overdrive to vintage fuzz or metal distortion. I could definitely use an eq to fine tune those tones.
I just picked up another MXR 10 band eq and now have 6. EQs really make tone wood discussions,pickup and speaker swapping tone chasers more of a hobby than a necessity. Shape eq to taste. Done.
That light blue strat is gorgeous
this show is among the best guitar stuff on UA-cam
Spot on!!... The smallest of bumps can make a huge difference, rather than big jumps!.. Needs bigger bumps before another pedal tho!... The Boss is a boss booster, on it’s own!!... an underrated pedal everyone guitar player should have!!
Really useful vid! Thanks guys!!!
+Cuchimanmrs cheers C :)
I thought I knew how to work my EQ...after watching you guys I have to go back to my amp and try some new settings.
I put my Analogman SILENT Boss GE-7 at the end of the effects in the loop section. That's where I found it to become the most efficient. And I have a FLEX-EQ7 right after the tuner at the beginning of my pedalboard, and I only use it to even the output and the EQ of my various guitars in order get a more reliable and predictable response from my effects (specially the drives and distortions).
always informative. love this youtube channel. gettin all educated n stuff
Cheers Kevin :)
I HAVE A GE7 AND A MXR 6 BAND EQ, I WAS USING THE BOSS EQ IN THE EFFECTS LOOP TO SHAPE THE TONE OF THE AMP AND HAD THE MXR 6 BAND AT THE END OF MY BOARD BUT I PUT THE MXR BEFORE MY DIST AND OVERDRIVE AND IT MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE, I ALWAYS LEARN SOMETHING SO KEEP THE VIDEOS COMING EVEN THOUGH I WAS A LITTLE RELUCTANT SINCE YOU GUYS KINDA MADE A LITTLE FUN OF EVH AND MY BELOVED METAL ZONE WHO JUST DIED OUT YESTERDAY(R.I.P.) BUT I GOT OVER IT
I can't hear you can you type a little LOUDER?!?
nice 1! 100% agree. back in the day tried loads of effects and pedals through my jcm 800, all of the classics.
the boss ge-7 was my favourite. the thing is it not a sexy pedal so people tend to overlook it.
it was always a constant in my rig. fantastic for tone tweak and boost for solos. i would urge any one starting out to grab one on ebay now! dirt cheap.
dunno where i had it in the signal chain tho? too young to care.
just crank everything u got to 10.
very nice advice, great.
Would love to see you guys talk a little about the Empress EQ, I always found graphic EQ pedals SOUNDED EQ'd and there's a characteristic with them. the EQDevices Tone Job served my function duties well for two years, but for recording, the empress seems to be the big daddy!
The sexual tension between these guys is insane.
Lmao
I've thought that since first seeing them.
+Alice Mason Man, come on, this is the Pedal Show - not the Gay Show.
LOL
+Alice Mason You sir, just won the internet
I have learned a lot from this show thank you! In the EQ show I would liked to have see some other EQ's like the MXR 10 band. The drive pedal you featured was nice but I want more eq info. Also how about using orange amps and amps with out effects loops?
Fender Showman and London from the 80"s had 5 band graphic equalisers / they were transistor amps and sounded quite okay if I remember correctly. I had a 100W London (2x10). Sold it ages ago...
Great, great topic, gents!
IMO this is worthy of (at least) one more episode including extended pedal reviews.
Several mid priced EQs do a very good job and when utilizing more than one EQ in your rig (clean tone tuning, compressor tuning, overdrive/distortion tuning, overall tone tuning, etc.), you can have two or three of these (at 9V), for the price of a single MXR 108 + Doubler, so please consider an episode on this subject!
Two questions:
a) Will I experience issues if I run (EQ + compressor), (EQ + overdrive/distortion) and
( EQ + phaser/flanger) in three G2 loops rather than in six?
b) One is often advised to subtract from unwanted frequencies rather than adding to wanted ones, and this seems intuitively "right" to me, but:
Toying around with graphic EQs, I found it easier for me to dial in satisfactory results when ADDING to wanted frequencies and then backing down on the level control for unity level - the EQ "curve" remains the same (as was to be expected), just shifted "higher up".
Is this due to some psycho(acoustic) issue on my side 😳 or can it actually be explained from the construction of these pedals?
Just ordered an Analogman modded GE-7 after watching this episode.
learning how sound engineers operate eq in live and recording situations helps you understand your tone so much better. Also, the angle at which your ear is listening to your amps speaker massively effects the tone you get. I use a quad box in small gigs, not to be louder, instead to get a nice angle to hear, tone and volume wise, the amp and run it quieter. a comboon the floor when your almost on top of, is going to be bassy and hard to hear, yet could be deafening and trebly for the audience.
I just came across this video. Stevie Salas is the one that got me using EQ pedals. He has one at the beginning and at the end of his board
Thanks, great show...quest never ends...from Pittsburgh PA USA
+J Miles cheers J :)
Also useful for cranking tube amps and managing volume to bedroom levels
I'm a little late, but that Jester is one the best overdrive pedals I've heard.
nothing new for me but great video explaining frequencies
A must for everyone
excellent tutorial Daniel
Cheers from Israel
I use a 10 band MXR in the effects loop. It allows me to EQ the entire signal before the power amp.
love the fact dans preset on the timeline is called GRRRRRR
15:50 LOL 😂 “...we also need to talk about the bottom end.”
That's got to be the coolest pedal board I've ever seen!
Great vid. Just got an AnalogMan modded GE-7.