Forget Overdrive! What About A Wonderful Clean Tone?

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  • Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
  • Here are some tips on achieving a dynamic and involving clean tones
    Life too short for long UA-cam videos? Please see the ‘Interesting bits and go-to sections’ information below.
    In this video we revisit something so fundamental to guitar tone that we really should be doing it every week: clean tone!
    What do we mean by ‘clean’? Well, no electric guitar tone is really, really clean. But in the context of classic valve amplifiers, we take a ‘clean’ sound to be one without obvious overdrive or distortion, and it’s what the seminal guitar and amp designers were shooting for before we realised that cranking it was so much fun.
    The world of clean tones is probably as vast as their overdriven counterparts, but today we’re focussing on the part of the spectrum that we know and love best: a relatively simple tube amp and a bunch of pedals. For sure you don’t need the pedals if you love your amp, but that’s not the case for many people, often faced with a 'hard’ and one-dimensional experience with not a lot of note bloom and an absence of compression and dynamic range which can be a challenge to play and enjoy. If that sounds like you, watch on…
    Enjoy the video!
    Pedals & stuff in this episode…
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    • MXR Ten-Band EQ
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    • Free The Tone Fight Time Digital Delay
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    Interesting bits and go-to sections…
    0:00 Intro Playing
    2:15 What are we doing today?
    3:55 Today’s amps
    5:00 Key factors in a clean tone?
    6:35 Make It Wet
    10:47 Try An EQ Pedal
    15:25 Try A Separate Preamp
    17:35 Try A Compressor
    27:40 A Little Bit Of Modulation
    31:30 Use Fingers & Picking Variation
    48:55 Different Kinds Of Pickups
    1:02:00 Concluding thoughts
    Guitars in this episode:
    • Fender Custom Shop ’62 Relic Stratocaster - no video yet
    • Fender Custom Shop ’52 Relic Telecaster - Dan’s video here:
    • Gibson Custom True Historic ’57 Les Paul Goldtop, Murphy Aged - no video
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    • Karl Longbottom T16 71 with Creamery Classic ’71 Wide Range Humbuckers - no video
    • 197-something Gibson SG Standard with mini humbuckers - no video
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    • Epiphone Casino with Lollar P-90 pickups - Mick’s video here: • Epiphone Casino Pickup...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 1 тис.

  • @mattisvural7866
    @mattisvural7866 2 роки тому +50

    please make it into a t-shirt. "With great headroom, comes great responsibility". Love It!
    And also this is one of the more longed videos on the internet. I haven't been able to find any clean tone lecture on YT. So thank you for creating this video I needed.

    • @michaelparsons5352
      @michaelparsons5352 2 роки тому +1

      I'd buy that one!! Thanks for another great video. As a guy who plays with a lot of pedals but not a lot of dirt I find this subject fantastic.👍😎

  • @vladimirpavlovic9488
    @vladimirpavlovic9488 2 роки тому +109

    These are by far my favorite TPS shows - down to the basics (type of tone, different applications, effects, signal chain) - finding a real practical, basic ' problem ' that basically everyone faces - setting the scenario - exploring different ideas and settings - finding solutions - encouraging more exploration cause there is no final answers. In the end this show is mainly about pedals and all the ways they can get us to sound fancy, but also to solve real world problems in studio/home or gigging scenarios. That is what we come for.

  • @MrKevbo82
    @MrKevbo82 2 роки тому +158

    I’ve always been a “clean tone first” kinda guy and the past few years been in love with the Hudson broadcast for dirt with a clean amp but it sounded like garbage with an AC30 which I’ve never had great results putting dirt pedals into. So I adjusted THE AMP until the broadcast sounded good and to my surprise when I turned it off I liked that clean tone even better than how I originally set it 😂

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 роки тому +14

      Ha, awesome!

    • @PudWud1
      @PudWud1 2 роки тому +7

      I find that pedals sound great into the normal channel of a Vox AC amp, but not into the top boost.

    • @josephestes7076
      @josephestes7076 2 роки тому +16

      The broadcast is my favorite pedal of all time.

    • @BV_Beve
      @BV_Beve 2 роки тому +13

      AC30 check out a Crowther Hotcake was designed by Paul Crowther specifically to use with AC30

    • @andreweasombentley4703
      @andreweasombentley4703 2 роки тому +7

      Broadcast is just a phenomenal piece of gear. Especially if you are into vintage / amp drive sounds but is also a terrific clean preamp. It always seems to work completely synergistically with the amp it’s going into

  • @guilhermebatlleyfont7577
    @guilhermebatlleyfont7577 2 роки тому +86

    Gotta say, been loving these "back to basics" approach to tone you guys have been showing, we can all learn and grow so much from these videos. Thank you, keep up the amazing content!

    • @jasfiona
      @jasfiona 2 роки тому +1

      I agree they're brilliant.
      This is purely an observation, (but it might of course sound very critical, sorry). 🙄
      Besides Dan and Mick spend hours on these and sometimes if they slip, you can 100% forgive and stay behind them.
      On to my point.
      The 1st section has annoyed me. To be honest, I'd be annoyed even if my best friends or greatest heroes slipped into this.
      That is that they compared two different settings with a totally different playing.
      What I mean is, we all need to hear and see fair, and if possible identical conditions and scenarios for any camprisons.
      Moreover, the style of play at 6.55 to 7.08 simply underlines what a dry amp would sound like and also drives home the harshness of the HRD.
      Then, to add more emphasis regarding the difference with Reverb, Dan plays a different style, which if plays at the beginning, (although still dry), would sound completely different to what he played to demonstrate it.
      Also, if kept the same, it would certainly show how one needs to adapt when playing without any depth.
      Last point, (sorryl, it's also a bit strange how the last video released was about an acoustic guitar, which played acoustically would be dry, (depending on room), where it's just you and the guitar.
      Not a criticism, just an observation.

  • @el_kammeroni
    @el_kammeroni 2 роки тому +75

    As a bass player, I can agree on everything you guys said about our "natural compressor". On bass it is well known, that finger placement and the way of getting the string to move makes all the differences in bass tone. Even on an old beat up P-Bass. There are tons of tones in there! Well done gentlemen

    • @kcole-xi9km
      @kcole-xi9km 2 роки тому +3

      Agreed, surprisingly there are a lot of bass players who stay put in the same plucking position all night. While there are still subtle dynamic variations available, there is so much more range when you move around between the bridge and the end of the neck, or even over the neck. I guess it's something that came naturally to me when I started.

    • @kodykindhart5644
      @kodykindhart5644 2 роки тому +1

      I have a place I come back to and set bass on amp accordingly
      Then move around as needed to take or leave room
      Open notes have less mid compared to 12th fret octave
      Same with plucking position

    • @chrisegg7936
      @chrisegg7936 2 роки тому

      makes me think of someone I saw recently talking about McCartney and the Hofner bass. A whole generation went out recognized how good his technique was because it wasn't a particularly well-made instrument and it would compress so easily if you picked it too hard.

    • @6minus3minus2
      @6minus3minus2 2 роки тому +1

      Technique in general on bass feels much more variable. It can be fingerstyle, thumb, slap and/or pick. All give a very different sound and energy. You could never imagine a Wailers record with slap or a high energy Clash song with a fat old school soul thumb. Not that compression and pedals aren't super useful and often necessary, but technique can expand the palate so much.

    • @maykolllopez1585
      @maykolllopez1585 Рік тому

      I use a EQD Warden in the beginning, and Secret Preamp at the end of my chain to get nice cleans that’s really fill the room.

  • @dgreenshloff
    @dgreenshloff 2 роки тому +25

    It's probably been said before - but this is like being in a master-class... and it's completely free! Thank you.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you Eddie!

    • @testinguk_Admin
      @testinguk_Admin 2 роки тому +2

      It’s only free if you aren’t supporting them on Patreon or in the pedal show store. Invest if you can.

    • @dgreenshloff
      @dgreenshloff 2 роки тому +1

      @@testinguk_Admin true. I've been thinking about that.

  • @felixjordanguitar
    @felixjordanguitar 2 роки тому +8

    For me, the basis of a good amp is its ability to produce a clean tone. This transparency lends itself to being the foundation of a pedal platform if desired.

  • @kyle_brenn
    @kyle_brenn 2 роки тому +9

    Different guitars & tonal differences -- makes me think of the episode with Josh Scott giving the history of fuzz/distortion/OD. He was talking about how the simpler the circuit, the more important each component is. He compared it to soup: if there are only 6 ingredients, all of them are super important to the final flavor (or tone); if there are 56 ingredients, the role each ends up influencing the final flavor less. Seems like a similar thing here. Fewer gain stages means the "guitar/pickup" ingredient plays a larger role in the final tonal flavor.

  • @kevinmurtagh4996
    @kevinmurtagh4996 2 роки тому +14

    One of my favorite clean tones, particularly for playing open chord arpeggio stuff, is to turn a Fender or Music Man amp up to where it’s mildly breaking up, and then just roll the guitar volume knob back until the breakup is gone. Then you get this beautiful clean tone without much spikey transients, but much fuller sounding than if you just set the amp at 3. You don’t want to turn the guitar volume down too much because you don’t want to lose too much top end. But if you do it just a little bit, it sounds amazing to me.

    • @michaeltravis3562
      @michaeltravis3562 2 роки тому

      That’s exactly it, Kevin. I also feel the Best tones (clean or driven) are realized when the power amp section is hot and happy. Cheers.

  • @MarkPritchardGuitar
    @MarkPritchardGuitar 2 роки тому +3

    Congrats on reaching 300k subs guys, so well deserved!

  • @tonyfaelens3626
    @tonyfaelens3626 2 роки тому +1

    THNX for the CLEAN show !!!!!!!

  • @ArtuV.
    @ArtuV. 2 роки тому +3

    I need the T-shirt "Whith great headroom comes great responsability"!
    Btw, awesome playing and awesome sounds.

  • @bubbaw1234
    @bubbaw1234 2 роки тому +20

    My ears have always gravitated more toward clean sounds, so i appreciate this. You guys have definitely helped me appreciate overdrive much more, but i also really appreciate this one :)

  • @pigracer6885
    @pigracer6885 2 роки тому +4

    That was some of the best playing I have heard from both of you ! well done

  • @jmanson3310
    @jmanson3310 2 роки тому +1

    Subject covered thoroughly. Nice work as always guys. After a day of playing and finding a couple of really beautiful clean tones myself, I was really happy to see this was the subject being explored this week and felt it was just what I needed to see.

  • @BrentAdams
    @BrentAdams 2 роки тому +1

    Brilliant...... Thanks for the walk through on some different ways to bring that clean tone to life.

  • @samwisegrangee
    @samwisegrangee 2 роки тому +16

    One of the best suggestions I have for a good clean tone and for general technique is to back off your guitars volume knob to 7 or so. (Feel free to have your boost, overdrive, eq, even fuzz turned on while doing this.)
    The main thing that makes clean tones spiky and uninspiring is that the volume is too loud on your pick attack, so there’s nowhere left for you to go. All you can do is play quieter or softer.
    But if your volume knob is turned back to a new midrange where you can play BOTH softer and harder, BOTH quieter and louder, you open up new possibilities in your tone and technique. Now your picking technique will determine changes in tone, and you can even pick hard without running into the volume wall.
    And if things are going to break up in a good way, backing off that volume means your picking dynamics can hint at that overdriven tone awaiting you. Then just turn up that volume knob and dig in with your pick!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 роки тому +1

      Nice!

    • @donkeydarko77
      @donkeydarko77 2 роки тому

      Honestly, I rarely ever have my guitar Volume up past 5 or so. I use it liberally in the 2-5 range, and feel the best sounds are to be had in there.

    • @50Something
      @50Something 2 роки тому +1

      And here I am, the guy that NEVER touches his volume and tone pots🙄. I learned so much watching this, especially using the effects dialed back a bit. Thanks lads!

  • @nilsx3020
    @nilsx3020 2 роки тому +6

    What a massively inspiring episode. Especially the subtle use of modulation with sparkling cleans, such as a subtle chorus, really has me going off on a tangent.

  • @caglarongan
    @caglarongan Рік тому

    I’ve learned a lot and inspired a lot. Thank you for all the thought and soul got into this !

  • @Adventuresingearland
    @Adventuresingearland 2 роки тому +1

    Keep thinking about the content of, and returning to watch this episode (like so many before) and being floored by the wonderful questions you pose/examine. Great stuff as ever team.

  • @nicklovering2749
    @nicklovering2749 2 роки тому +3

    Always love a TPS new vid notification. Excited to view this one later. 👍🏻

  • @fredwagner240
    @fredwagner240 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you guys!!
    This messing around with the clean sound has brought out some great music and awesome doodles from both of you!
    Now in my sixties there is nothing better to me than clear clean pure sound.
    Great show!!

  • @mattflickinger8151
    @mattflickinger8151 2 роки тому +2

    Man all glorious tones!! I finally got on with a compressor this last 2 years playing at home, and really appreciate clean sounds now. As always, great lessons in this episode.. Cheers guys!

  • @simonpark843
    @simonpark843 2 роки тому +1

    Beautiful way to start the year - as ever an enjoyable, informative and intriguing video.

  • @FabrizioCalderara76
    @FabrizioCalderara76 2 роки тому +5

    I am a big fan of the clean sound, especially with the Strat. I love the tones you got in this video, some of them are really inspiring! I also love your videos because I learn new things every time I watch to them, you inspire me so much. Thanks a lot for your professional work 😊

  • @RubenGarcia-jw3wm
    @RubenGarcia-jw3wm Рік тому +3

    Finding a good clean tone is harder than finding a distorted sound. Clean tones are just something else.

  • @zaccaria-dribi
    @zaccaria-dribi 2 роки тому +2

    FINALLY!! i waited so much for a new episode! And especially regarding the topic of clean tone! 🙏🙏

  • @hutchfromba
    @hutchfromba 2 роки тому +2

    I have been waiting for a clean sound show for years. Thank you so much. Blues On....💙

  • @TheBeriking
    @TheBeriking 2 роки тому +4

    Brilliant show.
    And speaking of brilliant - the Heavy Water has been one of my favorites for about a year now, can’t get enough of it.
    And for truly scintillating top-end, try engaging it together with the Camouflange, set to as subtle a wobble as you can make it.
    Makes everything *sing* like angels from above.

  • @petegeoghegan7562
    @petegeoghegan7562 2 роки тому +4

    Great show. Some of the best playing I've heard from you two in a long time. Lots of big smiles from you both.

  • @Jakexx01
    @Jakexx01 2 роки тому

    Loads of useful information. Another excellent show!

  • @matttaylor4738
    @matttaylor4738 2 роки тому +1

    Absolutely awesome guys, I’m loving it.

  • @halvach1998
    @halvach1998 2 роки тому +4

    Recently upgraded my partscaster with cheap Alnico pu's & 500K pots, discovered the sound I didn't know I'd been looking for for years; been playing it naked 'cept for a touch of reverb since

  • @mwet77
    @mwet77 2 роки тому +3

    Wonderful show gentlemen! I may watch this one a few times! Using multiple amps and all of the suggestions were great! I hope you will do more of these type shows, although I enjoy all of your content. It would be great if you could feature the newer pedals from EHX, and JHS. So many great new pedals from JHS 3 series and the new EHX stuff like the nano memory man!!! Get busy guys! Lol

  • @stan_likes_single_coils
    @stan_likes_single_coils 2 роки тому +1

    Wow, one of the best episodes! Thank you!

  • @stevengarvey5782
    @stevengarvey5782 2 роки тому

    Well done. Excellent playing and useful information. Thank you.

  • @billharris7698
    @billharris7698 2 роки тому +4

    Way back in my band days in the 60's and 70's, I always wanted my guitars distorted, fuzzed and bloody loud. Recently, I got a great love again for just the sound of the electric guitar. Clean allows you to hear the beauty and clarity of the guitar, the amp, the tremolo, delays, reverbs etc... I still really love the dynamics of real tubes, but cleaner. My current motto is "Clean is the new mean!" I absolutely love great delays and an awesome reverb! We guitarist have such glorious choices today. The right combination needs to make you want to jump right in and wrap those dreamy sounds around you as you get lost in your playing!

  • @marcusstowe2285
    @marcusstowe2285 2 роки тому +3

    Love the show! I’m with Dan, BD-2 is my favorite clean tone!

  • @dep1001
    @dep1001 2 роки тому +1

    Great episode, guys! I really love those bell-like clean tones... always have! Cheers

  • @ivandzharakov
    @ivandzharakov 2 роки тому

    Fantastic playing Dan ,thank you .

  • @timchalmers1700
    @timchalmers1700 2 роки тому +3

    Brilliant show !! I love clean tones, and while I get a few sweet sounds from my non-strat, non-tele, non-LP guitars, and non-fender deluxe, non-marshall, non-hiwatt amps, I'm going to watch this a few more times and gather ideas.

  • @robertstapleton3598
    @robertstapleton3598 2 роки тому +5

    Wonderful video. For two guys who seem almost apologetic for discussing clean tones, you really do a great job nailing them!

  • @Ironwolf1776
    @Ironwolf1776 2 роки тому +2

    I really appreciate this episode as I play mostly clean. Even when I do use overdrive it is turned well down providing a low to moderate crunch at best. Mixing Marshall and Fender clean tones wet/dry is a heavenly experience.

  • @JoeyQuiggins
    @JoeyQuiggins 2 роки тому

    Great job! Cool artist references, tonally speaking. Also caught wind of a little Jeff Beck, Albert Lee, Brian Setzer, and many more that aren't as obvious. You guys touched a ton of stylistic ground and really demonstrate how these nuances and textural approach inspire us to play by feeling depth, width, and a connection with various gear to do so much more than "clean vs dirt" thing. We all play with drive pedals probably more than any other pedals but I hope that this will encourage a few to find the inspiration and sit down with some of those pedals that got shelved long ago.
    Good stuff!

  • @matthewnew13
    @matthewnew13 2 роки тому +23

    This episode was excellent. I love clean tones and finger pick (classically trained) and always feel it sounds flat. I have a Eric Clapton Strat playing through a Fender Hot Rod Jnr. Watching this has convinced me on reverb, delay and compression.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 роки тому +2

      Nice one Matthew - enjoy!

    • @TheRealcdawg22
      @TheRealcdawg22 2 роки тому +2

      A Chorus/Double Tracker at low speed is really nice also. It's great on electrified acoustic also.

    • @blacktoothfox677
      @blacktoothfox677 2 роки тому

      I would actually recommend some multi fx unit, not as something to pit in your rig permanently, but to get a feel for all the different FX - then, the ones you really enjoy, buy good pedal versions of it or whatever, and get into all the requisite tweaking that comes with it. I adore FX, and massive drive as well - but I start each day with my Manuel Raimundo Flamenco guitar, just my skin against the string! The electric guitar is more than just a guitar, and the whole rig should be seen as a single integrated instrument.
      Anyway, dont mean to teach grandma to suck eggs; I suspect you are way further down the road of skills than I am. All the very best for '22, & if you are ever bored, stick your head in to my awful lil' channel!

  • @kurtisr2339
    @kurtisr2339 2 роки тому +14

    First: EPIC playing. Caught myself close-watching, -listening, -processing, which is deeply satisfying. Also satisfying: those little kid moments of excited validation--derived in this episode from the segment on compressors w/high headroom amps. I feel like I got a gold star thumbed onto my forehead. Cheers!

  • @JimmyJames714
    @JimmyJames714 2 роки тому +1

    I liked this one so much that I watched twice in one day. Thanks, guys!

  • @Mike-rw2nh
    @Mike-rw2nh 2 роки тому +1

    Great chemistry. Consistently high quality. Hell’s bells, I just like the noises Mick & Dan make when they explore their instruments together. 😋 Bravo!

  • @musicmann1967
    @musicmann1967 2 роки тому +3

    Nice playing on the intro Mick! Nice and subtle, and that Strat sounds like heaven!

  • @fredhystair5789
    @fredhystair5789 2 роки тому +3

    Great. I'm watching it a second time. Just for the sounds and playing. You were really inspired guys !

  • @jamesbell1701
    @jamesbell1701 2 роки тому

    Excellent show lads! Thanks!

  • @karllongbottomguitars9192
    @karllongbottomguitars9192 2 роки тому +2

    Gentlemen, you're both sounding amazing as ever. Many many thanks

  • @damianhooper4427
    @damianhooper4427 2 роки тому +8

    Great show this week fellows, although I would've loved to have heard the Gretsch Filtertrons go with a clean amp platform - hopefully next time.

  • @michaeltravis3562
    @michaeltravis3562 2 роки тому +8

    This might be one of my favorite episodes. Your’e a natural born educator, Mick. I’d enjoy more of these instructional videos. It should be said you both played superbly on this- gorgeous tones ♥️

  • @mikebakermusic
    @mikebakermusic 2 роки тому +1

    About time! LOL. I dearly love a wonderful, sparkly clean tone.

  • @ajb625
    @ajb625 2 роки тому +1

    Goodness Cripes! THANK YOU for this episode (and really, all the episodes!). Over the last few years, I have found myself using less and less overdrive. More and more, I'm finding more reward & satisfaction from clean tones with delay and reverb, and an occasional splash of modulation. It's very easy to spend an entire evening with nothing but clean tones. Loved the Clean Feedback!

  • @larsfocken3456
    @larsfocken3456 2 роки тому +9

    I really love the clean tone of a Les Paul especially in the middle position. This trait of Les Pauls is something that is widely neglected. But they were originally designed for clean sounds. Thank you for this video!

    • @JesseJuup
      @JesseJuup 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, specially when you dont have both pups vol and tone set at 10, but blend tastefully!

    • @larsfocken3456
      @larsfocken3456 2 роки тому

      @@JesseJuup Thank you for your answer. Definitely true. Do you remember Boon Gould of Level 42? He played funk music on a Les Paul, e.g. the tune Hot Water. Just fantastic.

  • @capriconstructiondesigninc8833
    @capriconstructiondesigninc8833 2 роки тому +3

    Came for the clean tones - was not disappointed - but I have to say both of your playing was out of this world, specifically in the “dynamics” section. I would absolutely love to see more videos focused on clean tones. The tones you guys got with the Hiwatt were incredible. Great episode.

  • @jaydee4077
    @jaydee4077 2 роки тому +2

    I find even when I play my Casino unplugged it has a natural grit to it. That was a great walk down memory lane for me. Back in my cover band days in the mid to late 70’s I was playing a Les Paul custom, a 335, and a tele through a Hiwatt 100 with a dynacomp (which I still have) an mxr phase 45, and a Roland Re-101 (still have as well). I managed to squeeze a lot of different tones out of that simple setup.

  • @wesleyb_92
    @wesleyb_92 2 роки тому +1

    Dans playing on red was fantastic. Some of the best playing I’ve heard in a while. Great stuff gents

  • @LeighFugeGuitar
    @LeighFugeGuitar 2 роки тому +4

    Awesome to see Karl Longbottoms guitars in the video too! That Tele looks stunning. Karl makes amazing guitars, I had the pleasure of demoing some last year and I loved playing them, the T style was insanely good.

    • @karllongbottomguitars9192
      @karllongbottomguitars9192 2 роки тому

      Cheers Leigh, hope you're well buddy. I also had the pleasure of you demoing some of my guitars

  • @chriscottguitar4287
    @chriscottguitar4287 2 роки тому +35

    Beautiful tones, as always! I love just plugging straight into my deluxe reverb. There’s something magical about the pure tone of the guitar and the amp.
    As a side note, Mick should play with his fingers more! That sounded great!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 роки тому +5

      Thanks Chris! I do use em a lot when I’m playing actual music. More than I’d realised…. Cheers!

  • @gbarge4
    @gbarge4 2 роки тому

    Great episode. It helped me to hear the fundamentals restated at the beginning. It's so easy to look past the basics. I've enjoyed comparing drive pedals so much but in the past several months it's been playing with a cranked high headroom amp with a Cali76 and a focus on pick attack and dynamics. With a lighter touch I can also play faster and with fewer mistakes. The amp dictates the touch and it's just a whole different and fun experience. Thanks, guys.

  • @gregcharles999
    @gregcharles999 2 роки тому

    thanks for re introducing me to my comprerssor, its a love hate relationship but with my old fender amp it really smooths the spikey highs and fills out the mids nicely, like my amp is reborn. great show!

  • @mampub
    @mampub Рік тому +3

    Thank you for this very in-depth discussion and tasteful playing as always. One takeaway for me...I can save a lot of money by just focusing on my hands with dynamics and technique. Someone like Julian Lage is a great example of using a relatively simple setup but still achieving loads of clean tonal and textural variation and nuances with his hands alone.

  • @robertrouleau1000
    @robertrouleau1000 2 роки тому +11

    As a "clean toner", I really appreciated this video. Clean tone is partly in your equipment setup but also "in your fingers". Your demonstration of this was excellent. Thanks guys... By the way, you both have super clean tone playing technique.

  • @mathisto21
    @mathisto21 2 роки тому +1

    Hey guys…I love this subject. Clean sounds are such a big part of guitar and you really dig into it in this video. Thanks so much for another great video gents

  • @blindianajones
    @blindianajones 2 роки тому +1

    Well done! Really enjoyed this one. The compressor with boost was really amazing. Def going off to give that a go.

  • @ricardorodriguez5549
    @ricardorodriguez5549 2 роки тому +4

    Clean tone lover here and my $.02 is that it’s a process to learn to think of your “clean” tone as a variety of clean tones just like your variety of OD tones. The clean, crisp tone required to lay a funky Strat groove is different from the full and warm clean needed for single note solos or tasty comping which is different from the snappy sizzle that comes in handy when chicken-picking is the Special of The Day. I always have a crisp clean, warm clean, and a solo clean on the palette (with reverb, delay and chorused for each). An EQ at the tail of the chain gives you that final push to get over the band without breaking eardrums AND makes it easy to switch between songs and parts that feature fingerpicking vs those that are plectrum powered.

  • @iwannabeyourshirt
    @iwannabeyourshirt 2 роки тому +7

    Hello, Le-Gents--one of the toughest lessons I learned as a young guitar student was that my full, bottom-end rich, chimey clean tone did NOT usually translate directly into a beautiful distorted tone. I think I was *much* older when I learned that the bass knob also moves in reverse.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 роки тому +2

      Ha! Yes indeed!

    • @blacktoothfox677
      @blacktoothfox677 2 роки тому +1

      Aye! Dont let it get so thick as to turn into mud!
      Hope you are enjoying your rig, all the very best for '22

  • @theplatinumpearls
    @theplatinumpearls 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this video! Getting an amazing clean tone takes some effort. We always put so much effort into our heavier tones it’s easy to forget the clean tone. It’s more than just the guitar plugged into the amp.

  • @tatalat56
    @tatalat56 2 роки тому +1

    This is excelente… and I’ve only watched the first 5 min (so far)…! Keep up these ‘fundamentals of tone’ style videos!

  • @mikehewett4393
    @mikehewett4393 2 роки тому +14

    If you're looking for headroom try turning the volume all the way up and use the drive as your volume. Hey presto you have a no-master-volume amp. You'll probably back off from that a bit but it will radically change the tone of your amp.😉

    • @Ottophil
      @Ottophil 2 роки тому +3

      I have a 6505+ not known for its great clean channel. This is my secret.

    • @ruiseartalcorn
      @ruiseartalcorn 2 роки тому +3

      Mike Hewett - That's what I do too, especially when using a lower wattage amp, such as my Vox AC15. It allows me way more head room than one would expect from a small amp.

    • @sooparticular
      @sooparticular 2 роки тому

      classic trick soooo toneful and surprising!!!

  • @ocduff
    @ocduff 2 роки тому +3

    Love this episode. Seems like most guitarists are seeking dirty tones and as a result, “clean tone” has come to mean stiff, cold, sterile.
    In reality, great clean tones should have all the same elements that great dirty tones have: compression, sustain, aggressive harmonic content and swirl.
    One hurdle to jump when facing the leap from a great dirty tone back to a great clean tone is that overly efficient speakers, overwound pickups, and amps dialed in (biased hot) to sound good overdriven, make that leap backwards a bit tricky. Mix in boost pedals, EQ’s and compressors, and we are trying to add back what’s been taken away.
    While so much of this is subjective, I find that it is far better to achieve an amazing clean and dirty tone if you get the clean tone right to begin with, rather than vice versa.
    As we all know it’s a game of weight and balances and we are always robbing Peter to pay Paul.
    And then, after you get it all just right, you listen to a Kenny Burrell play Midnight Blue with just a Gibson and tweed Deluxe and your own complicated setup sounds like processed cheese in comparison. It’s maddening!
    Love the show, love the pedals, love the camaraderie. Great sounds here!

  • @DefaultName-yl2jw
    @DefaultName-yl2jw 2 роки тому

    What an interesting show. Loads of fantastic information here. I can’t get over that HiWatt. What an amazing sounding amp.

  • @roiyosipovich7807
    @roiyosipovich7807 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you! Found this extremely educational!

  • @gcvrsa
    @gcvrsa 2 роки тому +3

    You know, something I'm thinking about whilst watching this, especially during "Thing 6", talking about plectra, is that you lads really think primarily like lead guitar players, and not like rhythm guitar players. When you are playing rhythm, providing that base layer of sound, your aims and concerns about tone and technique are quite different than when you are a lead player, providing that top layer of sound.
    As a rhythm player, a solid clean tone is the basis of everything I do, and how I generate my dirty tone is very much in relationship to my clean tone. If my dirty tone is entirely divorced from my clean tone, then I can't make a smooth transition between the two. And I specifically use extra light to light picks, and very rarely even medium picks. I use the larger rounded triangle size (which gives me more choices as to the flexibility of the length of material between my fingers and strings)--typically, the heaviest plectrum I will ever use is on the order of 0.60-0.63 mm in thickness, and I will often choose a 0.50 mm or even 0.38 mm pick, if the music calls for even more subtlety in my dynamics.
    A rhythm player really exists in the middle of the music, not out front, not in the back or on the bottom. And a lighter plectrum in a lot of ways does what a compressor does--it gives you cushion.

  • @TR4Ajim
    @TR4Ajim 2 роки тому +6

    I know it may be a bit of heresy, but i preferred the sound of my solid state JC77. Beautiful clean sound, (plus it’s beautiful chorus). I gigged with it for over 30 years. It cuts through the mix, more than loud enough when needed. It’s covered with dings, and had various things spilled on it, and it never let me down. And it took any pedal very well. I still have it.👍

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 роки тому

      Totally! If that’s what you like, that’s what you like!

    • @TheRealcdawg22
      @TheRealcdawg22 2 роки тому +3

      I have a handful of solid state amps I wouldn't part with either. A good amp is a good amp no matter what the snobs say.

    • @gbbruno596
      @gbbruno596 2 роки тому

      Certain solid state amps have phenomenal clean tones, and Roland is one of those. The problem I always had is when they break up and all that transistor's fizzy buzz come out. But with anything in music you need not to justify what you like.

    • @TheRealcdawg22
      @TheRealcdawg22 2 роки тому +1

      @@gbbruno596 They are not all good and not all bad. I love my tube amps and hybrids also. I just feel the outside pressure is unwarranted. Trust your ears.

    • @gbbruno596
      @gbbruno596 2 роки тому

      @@TheRealcdawg22 Which is what I just said.

  • @birdwoodcbgs71
    @birdwoodcbgs71 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent show

  • @IamMusicNerd
    @IamMusicNerd 2 роки тому +3

    I think some of my favorite clean tones lately have been with the PRS 58/15 LT pickups through a Magnatone amp. The clarity is insane.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 роки тому

      Woooo. Niiiice! Very liking Magnatone noises

  • @gcvrsa
    @gcvrsa 2 роки тому +5

    When it comes to humbuckers, my favorite thing is an early PAF style like the Seymour Duncan Seth Lover or the Gibson NHS (Memphis Historic Spec), but wired in parallel, unlike the more common later style of wiring in series. It's the best of both worlds between single coil tone and humbucker noise cancelling. Oh, also, the Lace Alumitones. You should check those out if you haven't.

    • @Muzikman127
      @Muzikman127 2 роки тому +1

      Do you like filtertrons? Would imagine they're in a similar sort of ballpark

  • @janbrenner9488
    @janbrenner9488 2 роки тому

    Again you have discovered worlds of sound using basic tools, I can´t appreciate enough how much is to learn from TPS. Thank you!

  • @EugeneOdnoval
    @EugeneOdnoval 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the inspiration to experiment with clean tones!

  • @CheddarKungPao
    @CheddarKungPao 2 роки тому +5

    Great video dudes! The ultimate clean tone for me is playing unplugged! And I think one reason people often don't like dry, clean tones is when they don't like their pure tone of their guitar made loud. If you start with a guitar that sounds great unplugged, I think you have a much better chance of enjoying playing it clean too.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 роки тому +2

      Good call Dave. I know Mr Schofield's fave tone is not plugged in!

  • @ronrumsey3205
    @ronrumsey3205 2 роки тому +14

    Well done, gentlemen! I get very tired of hearing "here's my clean tone" and there's hair all over it! Not a bad sound necessarily but NOT clean. I love a good clean tone to build on with pedals, especially in this day and age of playing more quietly.

    • @Ottophil
      @Ottophil 2 роки тому +1

      For some of us, our “clean” tone is as clean as we want it. And that might have “hair”

    • @MBloke
      @MBloke 2 роки тому +5

      "And here's my clean tone!"
      **proceeds to play something that sounds like a ZZ Top record**

    • @misterguitargeek
      @misterguitargeek 2 роки тому +3

      At the same time it's a bit tiresome to hear people complaining about clean tones not being "clean enough".
      At some point just plug directly into the board and be done with it. Otherwise, you're still looking at sounds that are compressed and rounded out somewhere in the chain - and are just arguing about degree.

  • @timwoodruff
    @timwoodruff 2 роки тому +2

    This is great and very timely. I've been playing around more with high-headroom clean tones more than I have before.
    I've actually found that I really like the JCM800 clean on my modeler a lot. It's almost like a TwoRock or a Twin but with more mids and lowend in a very nice way.
    Thanks guys!

  • @joshuatreat8106
    @joshuatreat8106 2 роки тому

    Really enjoy all of your videos, but this one is a standout. You really are masterful tone shapers, and when you're enjoying yourselves to the point of getting carried away with your playing it's great to watch and hear. Well done!
    Now, if I could just get *my* Strat to Strat like that...

  • @VibhasPatil
    @VibhasPatil 2 роки тому +6

    When I think of my favourite clean tone, it has to be from the Joni Mitchell song, 'How do you stop.' Mike Landau is a bloody genius.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 роки тому +3

      Ohmergahd. Yes. Landau. All yes. :0)

    • @bluesful
      @bluesful 2 роки тому +3

      Check out Amelia with Larry Carlton.

    • @kurtisr2339
      @kurtisr2339 2 роки тому +2

      Nailed it. So brilliant.

  • @thorpyfx2679
    @thorpyfx2679 2 роки тому +5

    I have to say to many other people this would have to be the hardest show to record, but the way you worked with the headroom, dynamics, and nuanced playing was Inspirational. Kudos to both of you!! P.s. love what you did with the Heavy Water!!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you kindly! Heavy Water: winning. Holy moly! Much love to you folks.

  • @KeysMcGhee
    @KeysMcGhee 8 місяців тому

    Great video guys. Playing with feeling and that Plexi - Wow. Keep them coming.

  • @jape7288
    @jape7288 6 місяців тому +1

    Awesome episode! The clean tone using the Thorpy boost that feeds back is so good! I have always loved that sound. This makes me picture standing in front of a very loud amp. You can play clean, but if you stand too close the feedback will take over. Love it!

  • @mgiliberto
    @mgiliberto 2 роки тому +12

    Another fine episode, D&M. I'm a bit disappointed that Dan didn't use his wonderful "the compressor is overdrive for your clean tones" phrase. Maybe on Monday's live show?

    • @davedavem
      @davedavem 2 роки тому

      Yes! I was waiting for that too.

  • @michael_caz_nyc
    @michael_caz_nyc 2 роки тому +4

    Gorgeous tone's on this episode gents. Really fantastic playing by both-of you. My ideal clean tone: Suhr Strat (Lollar pickups) - Fender blackface Princeton-reverb - use a touch of spring reverb - subtle DD-500 tape delay. I can get lost in that tone for hours. Add Boss DC-2W for even-more Wow-factor.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  2 роки тому +1

      Wonderful! Yeah man, we can see how you’d get lost in that. :0)

    • @michael_caz_nyc
      @michael_caz_nyc 5 місяців тому

      ( just rewatched this episode) Mick's intro playing and Tone is among The Best I've heard from anyone...(ever) @@ThatPedalShow

  • @ummagumma7826
    @ummagumma7826 2 роки тому +1

    Sounds great guys. Haven't checked in to the channel in awhile and you haven't lost a beat. Actually picked up a few it seems

  • @eaglerayrob
    @eaglerayrob 2 роки тому

    Fantastic episode!! Great playing from you both and these tones are the epitome of clean. Perfecto. I'm really drawn toward clean tone and am currently doing somewhat of a deep dive into the clean tone journey (very timely episode for me). The DB meter really helped to visually demonstrate how dynamic these clean tones are (jumping from 76 to 101 and back in a fraction of a second). IMHO, once the tone is dialed in, the dynamic range afforded from clean tone (high headroom) creates a launch pad for sonic expression (and great responsibility of course :-). I really liked what the Two Rock 2X12 brought to the table too. Thanks for the great tone time!!

  • @mattgilbert7347
    @mattgilbert7347 2 роки тому +3

    My Mum would approve. She was always at me to clean up my tone.

    • @kurtisr2339
      @kurtisr2339 2 роки тому +1

      This is the sort of comment to which my kids respond, "Dad. No." Well played, sir. Well. Played.

  • @RandyWillcox
    @RandyWillcox 2 роки тому +8

    The best clean tones seem to require overdrive. This should be very interesting! 😁🤘🏻

  • @goodknight37
    @goodknight37 2 роки тому +1

    Been waiting for this one!

  • @jamesmoverley5712
    @jamesmoverley5712 2 роки тому

    I just bought a leslie cab because it was cheaper than a neo vent. I'm so glad I did! I've loved your channel for probably 3 or 4 years, much love keep up the good work!

  • @StevenAlwine
    @StevenAlwine 2 роки тому +4

    When I think "crystal clean" guitar tone I always go to Neil Halstead of Slowdive's telecaster with delays coming out of Roland JC-120s.