I don't know if someone has already said it but in game one Thoralf had the win if he played the rack after having Carl discard a card. I know it's not a big deal and we all miss play, heck maybe I'm not seeing it all but as far as I can tell the third Rack would have made the life total difference, carl would have lost during his upkeep. All the love and keep playing magic!
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The chalice is the tron deck is generally there to be played for 0. It locks out a bunch of your own cards if you play it on 1, so more of a double edged sword.
Gotta remember, it counters both. So when playing Tron if you chalice on 1 you stop a lot of his stuff, but now you also lose access to like 12 cards in your deck. So it'd be fine to do later once you have all the mana you need, but early it could cost you the game.
@@uriarte411 Do y'all realize that the only way 8-Rack can win is by playing 1 Mana Rack effects? There is no way to remove chalice, and no wincon can be played. It is a free win for Tron
@@kylegonewild Kyle, as long as the Tron player doesn’t smoke as much weed as you, they should be able to beat a 10 turn clock from a mutavault… your contributions to society are negligible!
I've had a control player draw in response to their Ring trigger. They drew a Tishana which blanked the ring trigger, it was their only out ! then I untapped and bolted them thrice
i personally think an updated list of 8-rack with cards like grief, orcish bowmaster and such (personally like Vicious Rumors for HP swing, and discard for 1 mana) would be pretty good and would have a way better chance! But even with that kinda "outdated" list it's pretty good and better then expected
The only downside is that it gets destroyed by side boarding. A lot of these lists have the necessary artifact hate to stop bridge and rack in the side.
@@BludMun i know, it's just a card i personally like. In generally i like to play with funky cards, like my favorite card for commander is Rug of Smothering and i even put it in every deck that aims to reduce live totals, no matter how good it is 🤷♂️
The fact Thoralf almost won against Domain Zoo as well makes me think that this deck could do very well if modernized. That said Jamin did misplay and didn't copy the rack with the metamorph, but still.
I agree although, I think sideboarding heavily favors most other decks. When your main win conditions are artifacts or enchantments, cards like pick your poison or annul can be brutal
I have to say that I genuinely love every color. Each has its own unique way if giving the finger: red haste and damage spells. green big creatures and fight spells. white lots of tokens and pacifism. blue counter spells and unsummon. black sacrifice and destruction.
I know a few people pointed out the Metamorph copying The Rack, but after that did Jamin also have enough mana to Sylvan Scrying for the 2nd Boseiju, destroy Mutavault, and reset the board with the Oblivion Stone? Turn after unearth the Cityscape Leveler for the win
We use to do exclusively top tier decks of various formats but we found that much fewer people watched those. Every other creator already does it on MTGO so we spice it up a little by playing crowd favourite decks :)
😌It brings me so much joy to hear the name Murktide and “best modern decks” in the same sentence, seems us little delver wizards will still be kicken in modern no matter how many pick your poisons or bowmasters get printed. Thanks cardmarket for picking on Murktide even after the format warped away from it
SaffronOlive had a really interesting version of the 8rack deck that I would've loved to see you take inspiration from. It was essentially mono-black scam with the rack and shreiking affliction.
I've seen 1 other instance of activating the One Ring in response to it's trigger : a UW control player (vs me on Burn), who was dead to the damage from the trigger + bolt, activated it in response, drew Tishana's Tidebinder, and countered his own ring trigger !!!! (he lost to 3 bolts on the next turn but still it was really cool)
"At this point i like to thanks my mom"...made my day😂😂😂 i love that toffel play a modern deck which doesnt Contain modern horizon cards and just New stuff, i liked modern before horizons 2 :) and i had played 8 rack for a while
Loved the video, the smash styled challengers are very good (who made them?). Side note I love the bridge though I ve never got my hands on it. The rack also reminds me my favorite Legacy deck Pox. Man that was so much fun, shame I couldnt afford the blackwhite version though.
It's funny how 8-Rack could be a strong Decklist in an artisan version of modern. Decklist 1 Dakmor Salvage 3 Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage 2 Fatal Push 4 Forsaken Miner 2 Geth's Verdict 3 Hopeless Nightmare 4 Inquisition of Kozilek 2 Long Goodbye 4 Mishra's Factory 4 Raven's Crime 4 Shrieking Affliction 4 Smallpox 16 Swamp 4 The Rack 3 Wrench Mind SIDEBOARD: 2 Break the Ice 1 Darkblast 2 Duress 1 Glistening Deluge 2 Malicious Eclipse 2 Mind Rake 3 Relic of Progenitus 1 Sudden Edict 1 Worm Harvest Other cards to consider, Cling to Dust and Whispers of Emrakul. Cling does give you life and card draw in a pinch. Whispers has a mini Hymn to Tourach and a Hymn if you got delirium.
:D i still remember when i first got a 7th Edition 2 player starter deck and some boosters and ... i liked Black and the idea of discard. When i really started to play YGO i also played discard (like HEAVY discard).... when i started to play Final Fantasy TCG i ...played discard. Now i play Lorcana ...and i play discard and my random Magic decks (paper) are...discard xD
Jamin misplays 1. Discarding the Karn instead of The One Ring. upticking Karn on the pithing needle would've killed Thoralf 2. Like everyone says, Metamorph on The Rack would've killed Thoralf 3. Missed lethal on the last turn by unearthing Cityscape Leveler
Why does the Phyrexian Metamorph trigger the cast effect? does this work with creatures and clones too? i thought only comes into play is getting triggered from clones
I was expecting Carl to go "Who would cross the Bridge of Death must answer me these questions three, ere the other side he see." or something like that. Why didn't Thoralf use the drain mode in brutality to secure the win?
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Love these videos (especially if they're modern related) but it was sad to see a strange G-tron list being played :(
@BaalRoi Jamin simply accidentally shuffled the sideboard into the mainboard 😅 outside of that, it was a standard Tron list :)
I don't know if someone has already said it but in game one Thoralf had the win if he played the rack after having Carl discard a card. I know it's not a big deal and we all miss play, heck maybe I'm not seeing it all but as far as I can tell the third Rack would have made the life total difference, carl would have lost during his upkeep. All the love and keep playing magic!
Game 2 Jamin could've copied Thoralf's Rack with the metamorph
Yaaaassss
Yeah it almost seemed like Thoralf saw that and was ready to scoop them up, but didn’t have to!
I feel like resetting The One Ring was still the correct okay, since Jamin would have lost to his own card before the Rack got Thoralf.
Thoralf was at 1. Copying rack would have killed him upon passing the turn.@@blueredlover1060
@@blueredlover1060 No. Jamin's Rack would trigger at Thoralf's upkeep. While the Ring could only doom Jamin at his next upkeep.
Jamin copying Thoralf’s rack to win would have been amazing.
😫😫
I saw that immediately, I thought the game was his
Also he could've used sylvan scrying to get boseiju to hit mutavault
Yeah, I thought that should be the play as well. However I'm not familiar with the rack
@@charliefranklin8523 Also he could've unearthed the cityscape leveler and swing for the win
"Discardmarket" sounds like some mirror universe shenanigans.
This show single-handedly keeps my love for paper magic alive
you guys make the only content on MTG I can stomach. No one tries to act like they're the best MTG player of all time, and you ALWAYS seem to be having fun. Great content gents.
"Chalice doesn't do much" spoken like a man who hasn't been Chalice'd for 1 on 8-rack before.
The chalice is the tron deck is generally there to be played for 0. It locks out a bunch of your own cards if you play it on 1, so more of a double edged sword.
Gotta remember, it counters both. So when playing Tron if you chalice on 1 you stop a lot of his stuff, but now you also lose access to like 12 cards in your deck. So it'd be fine to do later once you have all the mana you need, but early it could cost you the game.
@@uriarte411 Do y'all realize that the only way 8-Rack can win is by playing 1 Mana Rack effects? There is no way to remove chalice, and no wincon can be played. It is a free win for Tron
@@waterguzzler5993 Not a free win for tron but good attempt at assessing the decks.
@@kylegonewild Kyle, as long as the Tron player doesn’t smoke as much weed as you, they should be able to beat a 10 turn clock from a mutavault… your contributions to society are negligible!
I got inspired by Cardmarket to start playing Modern! Got my ass beat
What deck are you playing :)
@@CardmarketMagicI played Temur Prowess against a Domain Zoo
Carl looks amazing in costumes and the flair he brings is top notch. Also big cheers for the black suffering deck
Argh Jamin missed the funniest play possible
Metamorphing Thoralf's copy of The Rack
😫😫
As someone who plays mono black for the absolute most part, this is a treat!
I've had a control player draw in response to their Ring trigger. They drew a Tishana which blanked the ring trigger, it was their only out !
then I untapped and bolted them thrice
15:31 If you were to copy the rack and use the upkeep trigger, Thoralf 6 would be damaged
i personally think an updated list of 8-rack with cards like grief, orcish bowmaster and such (personally like Vicious Rumors for HP swing, and discard for 1 mana) would be pretty good and would have a way better chance! But even with that kinda "outdated" list it's pretty good and better then expected
The only downside is that it gets destroyed by side boarding. A lot of these lists have the necessary artifact hate to stop bridge and rack in the side.
@@Ninguin You get to update the sideboard of the rack deck too to deal with the current meta...
@@BludMun i know, it's just a card i personally like. In generally i like to play with funky cards, like my favorite card for commander is Rug of Smothering and i even put it in every deck that aims to reduce live totals, no matter how good it is 🤷♂️
@@BludMunwhat do you mean, it's a two-headed giant limited All-Star!
The fact Thoralf almost won against Domain Zoo as well makes me think that this deck could do very well if modernized. That said Jamin did misplay and didn't copy the rack with the metamorph, but still.
I agree although, I think sideboarding heavily favors most other decks. When your main win conditions are artifacts or enchantments, cards like pick your poison or annul can be brutal
@@user-fu7no1xu5b They can be but the point of 8rack is to quickly force your opponent into topdeck mode. Dumb cards like TOR non-withstanding.
Zoo is a fine matchup, tron is very very hard.
0:40 love how you can just see the card in the hat
I have to say that I genuinely love every color. Each has its own unique way if giving the finger: red haste and damage spells. green big creatures and fight spells. white lots of tokens and pacifism. blue counter spells and unsummon. black sacrifice and destruction.
I know a few people pointed out the Metamorph copying The Rack, but after that did Jamin also have enough mana to Sylvan Scrying for the 2nd Boseiju, destroy Mutavault, and reset the board with the Oblivion Stone? Turn after unearth the Cityscape Leveler for the win
As an 8 Rack enjoyer I am both surprised and pleased to see this video today.
I would also love to see regular Games of Magic with the best decks in the format. Altough I still love this video
We use to do exclusively top tier decks of various formats but we found that much fewer people watched those. Every other creator already does it on MTGO so we spice it up a little by playing crowd favourite decks :)
Very cool! We need a goblin version of this
That's a great idea!
yes please
Maybe without Stickers but with Lackeys instead?
"At this point I would like to thank my mom" lol, I love you Thoralf ;D
😌It brings me so much joy to hear the name Murktide and “best modern decks” in the same sentence, seems us little delver wizards will still be kicken in modern no matter how many pick your poisons or bowmasters get printed. Thanks cardmarket for picking on Murktide even after the format warped away from it
Wasn’t there a cityscape leveler in Jamin’s yard to smash in thoralfs face at around 17:00
He threw that game in a few ways
Carl's top decks so nutty he topped deck off his opponent
The hats and costumes you guys have really are so fun. You really get to play at work and I love your videos for it.
At about 16:00 why didn't Jamin just copy the Rack? Thoralf was at 1 life with no cards in hand.
SaffronOlive had a really interesting version of the 8rack deck that I would've loved to see you take inspiration from. It was essentially mono-black scam with the rack and shreiking affliction.
I'm holding my breath for the custom Card video
It's already uploaded and should be out next week or the one after :)
Man, game 1 domain drew so well.
Ragavan single handedly won Carl game one, what a balanced card!
You can argue leyline is the winner here. Carl ended at 4 life and fetched with hardly any of his lands.
Thoralf mengu and jamin are the holy trinity for me I love watching them so much
What about CARL!!!?!?
I've seen 1 other instance of activating the One Ring in response to it's trigger : a UW control player (vs me on Burn), who was dead to the damage from the trigger + bolt, activated it in response, drew Tishana's Tidebinder, and countered his own ring trigger !!!!
(he lost to 3 bolts on the next turn but still it was really cool)
This was great! So good to see 8-rack getting some love.
That Jamin game was a nail biter. Well played gentlemen.
God, the start ... you guys have so much fun with this 😂
15:33 Not copying The Rack for the win is funny to me here. I would also miss this line.
Hey, glad to see more gameplay videos! The top videos are fun, but i felt like they were a bit too close to each other. Keep up the good work!
i love all of carl's super over the top costume =]
8rack got me into 60 card and modern after a year of only commander.
I still can't believe Leyline of the Guildpact is a real card.
Let’s go pox! Think Jamin could’ve won if he copied the rack instead of the ring
Thank you for this. I’m a mono black player only. Have a necro tattoo on my hand. And it’s refreshing to see it highlighted. ❤
I did not know that Ensnaring Bridge and Smallpox were in Modern. Those are some classic and painful cards!
"At this point i like to thanks my mom"...made my day😂😂😂 i love that toffel play a modern deck which doesnt Contain modern horizon cards and just New stuff, i liked modern before horizons 2 :) and i had played 8 rack for a while
I never had any doubts.
You guys totally have to do a Canadian Highlander game sesh! Please!
Loved the video, the smash styled challengers are very good (who made them?).
Side note I love the bridge though I ve never got my hands on it. The rack also reminds me my favorite Legacy deck Pox. Man that was so much fun, shame I couldnt afford the blackwhite version though.
Does anyone think the new tinybones could be played in this deck?
It's funny how 8-Rack could be a strong Decklist in an artisan version of modern.
Decklist
1 Dakmor Salvage
3 Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage
2 Fatal Push
4 Forsaken Miner
2 Geth's Verdict
3 Hopeless Nightmare
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Long Goodbye
4 Mishra's Factory
4 Raven's Crime
4 Shrieking Affliction
4 Smallpox
16 Swamp
4 The Rack
3 Wrench Mind
SIDEBOARD:
2 Break the Ice
1 Darkblast
2 Duress
1 Glistening Deluge
2 Malicious Eclipse
2 Mind Rake
3 Relic of Progenitus
1 Sudden Edict
1 Worm Harvest
Other cards to consider, Cling to Dust and Whispers of Emrakul. Cling does give you life and card draw in a pinch. Whispers has a mini Hymn to Tourach and a Hymn if you got delirium.
Fantastic video would love to see more like it
Game 1 Toralf didn't lose to Carl's deck, he lost to Ragavan.
Can the rack target jamin despite having protection from everything because it doesn't actually say 'target' but instead 'choose a player'?
:D i still remember when i first got a 7th Edition 2 player starter deck and some boosters and ... i liked Black and the idea of discard. When i really started to play YGO i also played discard (like HEAVY discard).... when i started to play Final Fantasy TCG i ...played discard. Now i play Lorcana ...and i play discard and my random Magic decks (paper) are...discard xD
0:39 I love you guys... 😂😂
Tenacious underdog
Daulthi voudwalker
Dark cofidant
Knighthawk scavengerzra
Rankle
Lilianna
Inquistion
Thoughtseize
Fatal push
Murderous rider
Insatiable averice
Phyrexian areana
Loved the deck, crazy to build it as my first modern deck, but i dont know if i shoud wait for MH3
Please downshift Shrieking Affliction and The Rack so I can Paup off with Pauper 8 rack! I love 8 rack, it was the first modern deck I ever built
"The viewers at home don't lose a life."
Oh thank god!
Jamin misplays
1. Discarding the Karn instead of The One Ring. upticking Karn on the pithing needle would've killed Thoralf
2. Like everyone says, Metamorph on The Rack would've killed Thoralf
3. Missed lethal on the last turn by unearthing Cityscape Leveler
Couldn't jamin unearth the cityscape leveler and attack?
Everytime I see this video in my timeline the thumbnail changes. Not sure which I liked best though.
8 Rack is my William Montgomery deck, because I ain’t eva gonna stop playing 8 rack.
Super lucky Ragavan pull on that first game.
Why does the Phyrexian Metamorph trigger the cast effect? does this work with creatures and clones too? i thought only comes into play is getting triggered from clones
The protection is an ETB trigger that only happens if you cast the card from your hand, not a cast trigger.
Because one ring is not a cast effect, it is an ETB effect with the conditional "if you cast it"
Awesome! Can you do a waste not version of this pleeeeease?
I've had plenty of success with an even more budget 8rack list. Most opponents are helpless when topdecking!
Thoralf's deck needs some Candy Trails
That was a fun one!
Flashbacks to me ruining everyone's fun in 2013 with those Raven's Crimes :)
3:40 wait, since urborg came out after, arent all lands swamp, not all, or are they different layers or something.
It's in addition so it would just have all lands and swamp twice
The top decks in these are brutal.
They missed 2 damage from thoughtseize in the last game
14:16 the rack targets on etb, not on upkeep, right?
Couldn’t Jamin have copied the rack with the Phyrexian metomorph? That would’ve won him the game.
Yep he pulled a Carl and threw
I was expecting Carl to go "Who would cross the Bridge of Death must answer me these questions three, ere the other side he see." or something like that. Why didn't Thoralf use the drain mode in brutality to secure the win?
Did Jamin shuffle his entire sidebord into his Tron deck?
17:00 Jamin could unearth Cityscape Leveler for lethal
he could have also just copied the rack and won
Just imagine if you have Urza Saga. That 8 rack turbo fast
Thought they were going for metamorph copy rack line after game 1 also came down to stealing rack pieces against toralf.
god a one or two of sheoldred in that deck would be brutal
This video makes me want to play something besides commander.
It's like WotC current design trend, everyone is in a new hat
Wasn’t there a cityscape leveler on jamin’s yard in game 2 that he could’ve unearthed for lethal?
carl just totally forgot to put jegantha i. his hand game 1 lol didnt matter ultimately but still
That peasant was the king the whole time???
actually an underdog gets promoted to an "updog" after a win.
Never underestimate a discard deck hehehehe
18:12 Updog!
The first weary traveler looks like he might he related to Carl.
It's the beard 🧔
Does hybrid mana not count against the jagantha companion requirement?
Didn’t Jamin also have a cityscape leveler in the graveyard?
Thoughtseize
Inquistion
Valki
Blightning
Kroxa
Lilianna
Lightning skeletmental
Cabal minion
You should play star format with 5 mono colored decks
3 really good matches
Could Jamin have unearthed cityscape leveler for game? @ 16:30
idk, but he could have copied the rack and won with that
Lets go Love 8 Rack
LET'S GO!
I believe wastes is a basic land type therefore all of your lands are six different basic lands types, so Scion of Draco would be free
No, actually , wastes have no subtype
@@laeclorentzen6111 so waste is just the name of the card not the land type?
15:31 Jamin would have won the game if he'd had metamorph become a copy of The Rack.