I don't know if someone has already said it but in game one Thoralf had the win if he played the rack after having Carl discard a card. I know it's not a big deal and we all miss play, heck maybe I'm not seeing it all but as far as I can tell the third Rack would have made the life total difference, carl would have lost during his upkeep. All the love and keep playing magic!
The chalice is the tron deck is generally there to be played for 0. It locks out a bunch of your own cards if you play it on 1, so more of a double edged sword.
Gotta remember, it counters both. So when playing Tron if you chalice on 1 you stop a lot of his stuff, but now you also lose access to like 12 cards in your deck. So it'd be fine to do later once you have all the mana you need, but early it could cost you the game.
@@uriarte411 Do y'all realize that the only way 8-Rack can win is by playing 1 Mana Rack effects? There is no way to remove chalice, and no wincon can be played. It is a free win for Tron
@@kylegonewild Kyle, as long as the Tron player doesn’t smoke as much weed as you, they should be able to beat a 10 turn clock from a mutavault… your contributions to society are negligible!
you guys make the only content on MTG I can stomach. No one tries to act like they're the best MTG player of all time, and you ALWAYS seem to be having fun. Great content gents.
I've had a control player draw in response to their Ring trigger. They drew a Tishana which blanked the ring trigger, it was their only out ! then I untapped and bolted them thrice
i personally think an updated list of 8-rack with cards like grief, orcish bowmaster and such (personally like Vicious Rumors for HP swing, and discard for 1 mana) would be pretty good and would have a way better chance! But even with that kinda "outdated" list it's pretty good and better then expected
The only downside is that it gets destroyed by side boarding. A lot of these lists have the necessary artifact hate to stop bridge and rack in the side.
@@BludMun i know, it's just a card i personally like. In generally i like to play with funky cards, like my favorite card for commander is Rug of Smothering and i even put it in every deck that aims to reduce live totals, no matter how good it is 🤷♂️
I know a few people pointed out the Metamorph copying The Rack, but after that did Jamin also have enough mana to Sylvan Scrying for the 2nd Boseiju, destroy Mutavault, and reset the board with the Oblivion Stone? Turn after unearth the Cityscape Leveler for the win
I have to say that I genuinely love every color. Each has its own unique way if giving the finger: red haste and damage spells. green big creatures and fight spells. white lots of tokens and pacifism. blue counter spells and unsummon. black sacrifice and destruction.
The fact Thoralf almost won against Domain Zoo as well makes me think that this deck could do very well if modernized. That said Jamin did misplay and didn't copy the rack with the metamorph, but still.
I agree although, I think sideboarding heavily favors most other decks. When your main win conditions are artifacts or enchantments, cards like pick your poison or annul can be brutal
We use to do exclusively top tier decks of various formats but we found that much fewer people watched those. Every other creator already does it on MTGO so we spice it up a little by playing crowd favourite decks :)
😌It brings me so much joy to hear the name Murktide and “best modern decks” in the same sentence, seems us little delver wizards will still be kicken in modern no matter how many pick your poisons or bowmasters get printed. Thanks cardmarket for picking on Murktide even after the format warped away from it
I've seen 1 other instance of activating the One Ring in response to it's trigger : a UW control player (vs me on Burn), who was dead to the damage from the trigger + bolt, activated it in response, drew Tishana's Tidebinder, and countered his own ring trigger !!!! (he lost to 3 bolts on the next turn but still it was really cool)
SaffronOlive had a really interesting version of the 8rack deck that I would've loved to see you take inspiration from. It was essentially mono-black scam with the rack and shreiking affliction.
Why does the Phyrexian Metamorph trigger the cast effect? does this work with creatures and clones too? i thought only comes into play is getting triggered from clones
It's funny how 8-Rack could be a strong Decklist in an artisan version of modern. Decklist 1 Dakmor Salvage 3 Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage 2 Fatal Push 4 Forsaken Miner 2 Geth's Verdict 3 Hopeless Nightmare 4 Inquisition of Kozilek 2 Long Goodbye 4 Mishra's Factory 4 Raven's Crime 4 Shrieking Affliction 4 Smallpox 16 Swamp 4 The Rack 3 Wrench Mind SIDEBOARD: 2 Break the Ice 1 Darkblast 2 Duress 1 Glistening Deluge 2 Malicious Eclipse 2 Mind Rake 3 Relic of Progenitus 1 Sudden Edict 1 Worm Harvest Other cards to consider, Cling to Dust and Whispers of Emrakul. Cling does give you life and card draw in a pinch. Whispers has a mini Hymn to Tourach and a Hymn if you got delirium.
"At this point i like to thanks my mom"...made my day😂😂😂 i love that toffel play a modern deck which doesnt Contain modern horizon cards and just New stuff, i liked modern before horizons 2 :) and i had played 8 rack for a while
Loved the video, the smash styled challengers are very good (who made them?). Side note I love the bridge though I ve never got my hands on it. The rack also reminds me my favorite Legacy deck Pox. Man that was so much fun, shame I couldnt afford the blackwhite version though.
im pretty sure in the tron match when Thoralf's played the second rack it cant chose Jamin as an opponent as hes got pro everything and the rack says on play. correct me if im wrong
You're wrong but by just reading the card's actual text you would be correct. Oracle text doesn't target it just chooses which is allowed with protection
:D i still remember when i first got a 7th Edition 2 player starter deck and some boosters and ... i liked Black and the idea of discard. When i really started to play YGO i also played discard (like HEAVY discard).... when i started to play Final Fantasy TCG i ...played discard. Now i play Lorcana ...and i play discard and my random Magic decks (paper) are...discard xD
Jamin misplays 1. Discarding the Karn instead of The One Ring. upticking Karn on the pithing needle would've killed Thoralf 2. Like everyone says, Metamorph on The Rack would've killed Thoralf 3. Missed lethal on the last turn by unearthing Cityscape Leveler
Can you companion jegantha with leyline in the deck? I thought you couldn't cause of the hybrid green but maybe it doesn't count cause it's all different hybrid
I personally have felt that Mono Black is the best color due to the amount of control it can do. Blue counters a lot, but Black can hit all categories. Maybe do a serious with all Modern Mono color decks to see which one is best.
No it just becomes a copy of the artifact, metamorph is always an artifact but it's not always a creature. But from a common sense standpoint, why would wizard print a card that copies artifacts but if it does it dies.
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Love these videos (especially if they're modern related) but it was sad to see a strange G-tron list being played :(
@BaalRoi Jamin simply accidentally shuffled the sideboard into the mainboard 😅 outside of that, it was a standard Tron list :)
I don't know if someone has already said it but in game one Thoralf had the win if he played the rack after having Carl discard a card. I know it's not a big deal and we all miss play, heck maybe I'm not seeing it all but as far as I can tell the third Rack would have made the life total difference, carl would have lost during his upkeep. All the love and keep playing magic!
Jamin copying Thoralf’s rack to win would have been amazing.
😫😫
I saw that immediately, I thought the game was his
Also he could've used sylvan scrying to get boseiju to hit mutavault
Yeah, I thought that should be the play as well. However I'm not familiar with the rack
@@charliefranklin8523 Also he could've unearthed the cityscape leveler and swing for the win
Game 2 Jamin could've copied Thoralf's Rack with the metamorph
Yaaaassss
Yeah it almost seemed like Thoralf saw that and was ready to scoop them up, but didn’t have to!
I feel like resetting The One Ring was still the correct okay, since Jamin would have lost to his own card before the Rack got Thoralf.
Thoralf was at 1. Copying rack would have killed him upon passing the turn.@@blueredlover1060
@@blueredlover1060 No. Jamin's Rack would trigger at Thoralf's upkeep. While the Ring could only doom Jamin at his next upkeep.
"Discardmarket" sounds like some mirror universe shenanigans.
This show single-handedly keeps my love for paper magic alive
"Chalice doesn't do much" spoken like a man who hasn't been Chalice'd for 1 on 8-rack before.
The chalice is the tron deck is generally there to be played for 0. It locks out a bunch of your own cards if you play it on 1, so more of a double edged sword.
Gotta remember, it counters both. So when playing Tron if you chalice on 1 you stop a lot of his stuff, but now you also lose access to like 12 cards in your deck. So it'd be fine to do later once you have all the mana you need, but early it could cost you the game.
@@uriarte411 Do y'all realize that the only way 8-Rack can win is by playing 1 Mana Rack effects? There is no way to remove chalice, and no wincon can be played. It is a free win for Tron
@@waterguzzler5993 Not a free win for tron but good attempt at assessing the decks.
@@kylegonewild Kyle, as long as the Tron player doesn’t smoke as much weed as you, they should be able to beat a 10 turn clock from a mutavault… your contributions to society are negligible!
you guys make the only content on MTG I can stomach. No one tries to act like they're the best MTG player of all time, and you ALWAYS seem to be having fun. Great content gents.
I got inspired by Cardmarket to start playing Modern! Got my ass beat
What deck are you playing :)
@@CardmarketMagicI played Temur Prowess against a Domain Zoo
Carl looks amazing in costumes and the flair he brings is top notch. Also big cheers for the black suffering deck
As someone who plays mono black for the absolute most part, this is a treat!
0:40 love how you can just see the card in the hat
15:31 If you were to copy the rack and use the upkeep trigger, Thoralf 6 would be damaged
I've had a control player draw in response to their Ring trigger. They drew a Tishana which blanked the ring trigger, it was their only out !
then I untapped and bolted them thrice
Argh Jamin missed the funniest play possible
Metamorphing Thoralf's copy of The Rack
😫😫
Wasn’t there a cityscape leveler in Jamin’s yard to smash in thoralfs face at around 17:00
He threw that game in a few ways
i personally think an updated list of 8-rack with cards like grief, orcish bowmaster and such (personally like Vicious Rumors for HP swing, and discard for 1 mana) would be pretty good and would have a way better chance! But even with that kinda "outdated" list it's pretty good and better then expected
The only downside is that it gets destroyed by side boarding. A lot of these lists have the necessary artifact hate to stop bridge and rack in the side.
@@Ninguin You get to update the sideboard of the rack deck too to deal with the current meta...
@@BludMun i know, it's just a card i personally like. In generally i like to play with funky cards, like my favorite card for commander is Rug of Smothering and i even put it in every deck that aims to reduce live totals, no matter how good it is 🤷♂️
@@BludMunwhat do you mean, it's a two-headed giant limited All-Star!
As an 8 Rack enjoyer I am both surprised and pleased to see this video today.
I know a few people pointed out the Metamorph copying The Rack, but after that did Jamin also have enough mana to Sylvan Scrying for the 2nd Boseiju, destroy Mutavault, and reset the board with the Oblivion Stone? Turn after unearth the Cityscape Leveler for the win
I have to say that I genuinely love every color. Each has its own unique way if giving the finger: red haste and damage spells. green big creatures and fight spells. white lots of tokens and pacifism. blue counter spells and unsummon. black sacrifice and destruction.
"At this point I would like to thank my mom" lol, I love you Thoralf ;D
The fact Thoralf almost won against Domain Zoo as well makes me think that this deck could do very well if modernized. That said Jamin did misplay and didn't copy the rack with the metamorph, but still.
I agree although, I think sideboarding heavily favors most other decks. When your main win conditions are artifacts or enchantments, cards like pick your poison or annul can be brutal
@@user-fu7no1xu5b They can be but the point of 8rack is to quickly force your opponent into topdeck mode. Dumb cards like TOR non-withstanding.
Zoo is a fine matchup, tron is very very hard.
At about 16:00 why didn't Jamin just copy the Rack? Thoralf was at 1 life with no cards in hand.
Carl's top decks so nutty he topped deck off his opponent
The hats and costumes you guys have really are so fun. You really get to play at work and I love your videos for it.
Very cool! We need a goblin version of this
That's a great idea!
yes please
Maybe without Stickers but with Lackeys instead?
I would also love to see regular Games of Magic with the best decks in the format. Altough I still love this video
We use to do exclusively top tier decks of various formats but we found that much fewer people watched those. Every other creator already does it on MTGO so we spice it up a little by playing crowd favourite decks :)
Man, game 1 domain drew so well.
😌It brings me so much joy to hear the name Murktide and “best modern decks” in the same sentence, seems us little delver wizards will still be kicken in modern no matter how many pick your poisons or bowmasters get printed. Thanks cardmarket for picking on Murktide even after the format warped away from it
I've seen 1 other instance of activating the One Ring in response to it's trigger : a UW control player (vs me on Burn), who was dead to the damage from the trigger + bolt, activated it in response, drew Tishana's Tidebinder, and countered his own ring trigger !!!!
(he lost to 3 bolts on the next turn but still it was really cool)
SaffronOlive had a really interesting version of the 8rack deck that I would've loved to see you take inspiration from. It was essentially mono-black scam with the rack and shreiking affliction.
Ragavan single handedly won Carl game one, what a balanced card!
You can argue leyline is the winner here. Carl ended at 4 life and fetched with hardly any of his lands.
God, the start ... you guys have so much fun with this 😂
3:40 wait, since urborg came out after, arent all lands swamp, not all, or are they different layers or something.
It's in addition so it would just have all lands and swamp twice
15:33 Not copying The Rack for the win is funny to me here. I would also miss this line.
This was great! So good to see 8-rack getting some love.
I'm holding my breath for the custom Card video
It's already uploaded and should be out next week or the one after :)
Thoralf mengu and jamin are the holy trinity for me I love watching them so much
What about CARL!!!?!?
That Jamin game was a nail biter. Well played gentlemen.
Hey, glad to see more gameplay videos! The top videos are fun, but i felt like they were a bit too close to each other. Keep up the good work!
Why does the Phyrexian Metamorph trigger the cast effect? does this work with creatures and clones too? i thought only comes into play is getting triggered from clones
The protection is an ETB trigger that only happens if you cast the card from your hand, not a cast trigger.
Because one ring is not a cast effect, it is an ETB effect with the conditional "if you cast it"
1:35 whats that mountain with all colors in it?
It's a wooded foothills. But what is giving it all land types is the Leyline of the Guildpact :)
Can the rack target jamin despite having protection from everything because it doesn't actually say 'target' but instead 'choose a player'?
8rack got me into 60 card and modern after a year of only commander.
i love all of carl's super over the top costume =]
It's funny how 8-Rack could be a strong Decklist in an artisan version of modern.
Decklist
1 Dakmor Salvage
3 Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage
2 Fatal Push
4 Forsaken Miner
2 Geth's Verdict
3 Hopeless Nightmare
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Long Goodbye
4 Mishra's Factory
4 Raven's Crime
4 Shrieking Affliction
4 Smallpox
16 Swamp
4 The Rack
3 Wrench Mind
SIDEBOARD:
2 Break the Ice
1 Darkblast
2 Duress
1 Glistening Deluge
2 Malicious Eclipse
2 Mind Rake
3 Relic of Progenitus
1 Sudden Edict
1 Worm Harvest
Other cards to consider, Cling to Dust and Whispers of Emrakul. Cling does give you life and card draw in a pinch. Whispers has a mini Hymn to Tourach and a Hymn if you got delirium.
14:16 the rack targets on etb, not on upkeep, right?
I never had any doubts.
Fantastic video would love to see more like it
0:39 I love you guys... 😂😂
Does anyone think the new tinybones could be played in this deck?
"At this point i like to thanks my mom"...made my day😂😂😂 i love that toffel play a modern deck which doesnt Contain modern horizon cards and just New stuff, i liked modern before horizons 2 :) and i had played 8 rack for a while
Could Jamin have unearthed cityscape leveler for game? @ 16:30
idk, but he could have copied the rack and won with that
Loved the video, the smash styled challengers are very good (who made them?).
Side note I love the bridge though I ve never got my hands on it. The rack also reminds me my favorite Legacy deck Pox. Man that was so much fun, shame I couldnt afford the blackwhite version though.
I still can't believe Leyline of the Guildpact is a real card.
Wasn’t there a cityscape leveler on jamin’s yard in game 2 that he could’ve unearthed for lethal?
Couldn't jamin unearth the cityscape leveler and attack?
I did not know that Ensnaring Bridge and Smallpox were in Modern. Those are some classic and painful cards!
Loved the deck, crazy to build it as my first modern deck, but i dont know if i shoud wait for MH3
Awesome! Can you do a waste not version of this pleeeeease?
why didnt Jamin unearth the leveler and attack for 8 ?
You guys totally have to do a Canadian Highlander game sesh! Please!
im pretty sure in the tron match when Thoralf's played the second rack it cant chose Jamin as an opponent as hes got pro everything and the rack says on play. correct me if im wrong
You're wrong but by just reading the card's actual text you would be correct. Oracle text doesn't target it just chooses which is allowed with protection
@@jacobisbell9388 ahhhh ty
Does hybrid mana not count against the jagantha companion requirement?
Let’s go pox! Think Jamin could’ve won if he copied the rack instead of the ring
Why didn’t Jamin unearth the cityscape leveller?
Why still mutavault instead of mishras factory?
:D i still remember when i first got a 7th Edition 2 player starter deck and some boosters and ... i liked Black and the idea of discard. When i really started to play YGO i also played discard (like HEAVY discard).... when i started to play Final Fantasy TCG i ...played discard. Now i play Lorcana ...and i play discard and my random Magic decks (paper) are...discard xD
Did Jamin shuffle his entire sidebord into his Tron deck?
Game 1 Toralf didn't lose to Carl's deck, he lost to Ragavan.
Thank you for this. I’m a mono black player only. Have a necro tattoo on my hand. And it’s refreshing to see it highlighted. ❤
Jamin misplays
1. Discarding the Karn instead of The One Ring. upticking Karn on the pithing needle would've killed Thoralf
2. Like everyone says, Metamorph on The Rack would've killed Thoralf
3. Missed lethal on the last turn by unearthing Cityscape Leveler
Didn’t Jamin also have a cityscape leveler in the graveyard?
Can you companion jegantha with leyline in the deck? I thought you couldn't cause of the hybrid green but maybe it doesn't count cause it's all different hybrid
You answered the question yourself
I personally have felt that Mono Black is the best color due to the amount of control it can do. Blue counters a lot, but Black can hit all categories. Maybe do a serious with all Modern Mono color decks to see which one is best.
Please downshift Shrieking Affliction and The Rack so I can Paup off with Pauper 8 rack! I love 8 rack, it was the first modern deck I ever built
That was a fun one!
Thought they were going for metamorph copy rack line after game 1 also came down to stealing rack pieces against toralf.
Super lucky Ragavan pull on that first game.
17:00 Jamin could unearth Cityscape Leveler for lethal
he could have also just copied the rack and won
18:12 Updog!
Didn't Carl have Delirium by the end of that last game? Or am I tripping
8 Rack is my William Montgomery deck, because I ain’t eva gonna stop playing 8 rack.
I've had plenty of success with an even more budget 8rack list. Most opponents are helpless when topdecking!
Can you try pauper commander, i think it could be interesting
Tenacious underdog
Daulthi voudwalker
Dark cofidant
Knighthawk scavengerzra
Rankle
Lilianna
Inquistion
Thoughtseize
Fatal push
Murderous rider
Insatiable averice
Phyrexian areana
Everytime I see this video in my timeline the thumbnail changes. Not sure which I liked best though.
Why is the tron sideboard in the main?
Jamin made a mistake and shuffled them in 😅
The top decks in these are brutal.
wasnt there something with unearth...
May I just comment on how dumb it is that you can have Gigantha as a companion with Leyline of the Guildpact in the deck?
How did Jamin lose game two?!?!? How do you throw twice?!?
"The viewers at home don't lose a life."
Oh thank god!
Thoralf's deck needs some Candy Trails
Flashbacks to me ruining everyone's fun in 2013 with those Raven's Crimes :)
Just imagine if you have Urza Saga. That 8 rack turbo fast
Might sound dumb, but doesn't Phyrexian Metamorph become a 0/0 One Ring and die ???
No it just becomes a copy of the artifact, metamorph is always an artifact but it's not always a creature. But from a common sense standpoint, why would wizard print a card that copies artifacts but if it does it dies.
carl just totally forgot to put jegantha i. his hand game 1 lol didnt matter ultimately but still
I’m confused on why thoralf discarded Bridge against tron….
i'm suspecting with a side board and bo3 the outcome would look different
god a one or two of sheoldred in that deck would be brutal