You two are an inspiration! My wife and I love your work and we have started planning our weekend travels around your episodes. Thanks for sharing stories and history about Mi that we would never have known otherwise!
Wow, I've been to Fayette a few times now; in fact, I was just there last Monday. I had no idea of all this history. I keep recommending your channel to all kinds of people, even my doctors and nurses! Please keep the history and great stories coming!
We did a frozen waterfall tour in January a couple years and stopped by Fayette. We were the only ones there. It was kind of erie but pretty amazing too! Thanks for another great video!
@@RestlessViking "a little" ... "kind or eerie" .... it's more than that .... those are past spirits you are feeling & my guess is life in Fayette during boom times was less than pleasant. and by the way - I don't believe in the Occult , but you can't ignore the feeling you get there. Next time you are there , look at the old photos ... NOBODY is smiling in any of them.
I have relatives in Michigan and Wisconsin. I was born in Oshkosh (1952) but was raised in Sacramento County, California. My ancestors arrived in Michigan in the late 18th century. My great-grandfather lived near Houghton, on the UP, and had a farm on the Sturgeon River near Chassel, where my grandfather was born. I only visited there once when I was 20 in 1972. Thanks for uploading these videos.
Thank you for sharing this bit of obscure history. This kind of information is important and the story needs to be told. Thank you again for telling that story.
I never knew that about Fayette--but there were a LOT of small towns in Michigan and Wisconsin that had a sordid history. I remember my Mom saying that during the logging days there was a saying "Heyward, Hurley, and Hell" and she would tell stories (greatly sanitized of course) about Hurley and some of the other towns along the Wisconsin portion of US 2/141. I was like, really, Mom, these are just blink or miss nothing towns and she would say, they are now but they weren't back then. So you just never know about an area! Really enjoy your channel and have been spreading the news.
Thanks for spreading the news! For sure, the dark past was spread across the northern frontier. Fayette was just a good back drop for a video and a place where they fought back.
Yeah, Wisconsin has the strip clubs still with gambling mafia crap and I recall hearing of more than one of the guys who were with a stripper as their woman in the UP and not only western. Actually, now that I think about, was more eastern for some reason and the western side was more the actual strippers showing up on campus at Tech. Hhhmmm, kind of like the LSSU girls showing up I guess.
Great History and Video! Learning something new every time I watch your videos! Thank you for Sharing! Reminds me of the story of a King on Beaver Island, I think he died of lead poisoning!
You guys did a nice job. Delivery from the start got me interested and? You were interesting! Thank you much? Also, you both have kind eyes. Thanks for that too. Have a good travel when you pick the next place.
Ever thought about doing a story about what was happening on North Fox island in the 60's and 70's? Still watching from the South Pole station - one month left...
Hey Brendan One month. . . I would imagine you are ready to leave by now? I have thought about a story about North Fox and the pedo. Its an all around sad story.
I deer hunt in this area. You two have some really good Michigan history. I am a history buff and your channel has taught me a lot of stuff from my home state keep up the good work.
Shhhhhhhh viking ever since covid the city folk came out an said is that a tree wait is that water wait maybe a lake shhhhhhhhh, great vids vik & Poppins 👍
That wasn't a furnace the lady was standing in at the beginning. It was where they turned wood to charcoal. They then used the charcoal to fuel the furnace in the big building to melt down the ore into iron bars.
You should do a video on Harrison, MI. Founded as Budd Lake Village, Harrison became the village name after plans for the F&PM RR would run through the village. By the late 1800s, much like Fayette, Harrison had a gambling and sex trade problem. Except, fed up with getting arrested, the lumbermen of the town that were getting arrested, ran the county sheriff out of the county. Harrison and thus Clare County stands as the only lawless county in MI in history.
awesome video! speaking of some old upper peninsula secrets. There is a not well known underground tunnel in the soo that connects many of the old businesses/bars on portage, i know the palace restaurant has an entrance in the basement, some places have it blocked off. had a chance to check it out years ago but it never materialized. Would love to see a video and learn the history of the tunnel. I've heard mixed things from it was built by the army or for smuggling during prohibition. would be great to know the real answer. keep up the great work and great videos
@@Jay_HallBay City as well. There's a whole underground city along the waterfront. Shops, streets, sidewalks, street lights, etc. You can still get to some of it if you know the right people.
We stayed at a inn up in Eagle River in the UP on Lake Superior one winter. The owner told us a lot of history of the area from the early days. Seems they had a dock out into the lake and on Fridays the ladies of the night would show up by boat and the drunk men would pay for services. Well when the women finally had enough they burned the dock and was never rebuilt.
I’m from Cooks a township not to far from Fayette And I haven’t heard that story. I have heard a story of a a man who ran a brothel in Manistique would regularly send his women to Seney until another man opened up his own Brothel there. The man from Manistique wasn’t too happy about someone stealing his customers and went up and shot him and later the Seney man’s family hunted him down and killed him in return.
Brothels were prevalent nationwide, and *legal*, as was the slavery the women endured. Yes, slavery! Many of those women had not been kidnapped, but *sold*, typically by their own fathers who used the money often to feed the remainder of their family. It was finally ruled illegal by the Supreme Court in 1915. I suspect that Prohibition was passed to break up the red light districts where the slaves were used. Prohibition may not be the mistake it is portrayed to be today. I just found your channel recently. Love it!
They could have just gotten rid of the sold-out Sheriff, gotten a judge and a new Sheriff, been deputized and ... All of that needed to be done regardless and those evil sex mills did not appear overnight and did not continue without local support.
I'm not commenting about this vid but I'm making a request for another vid. Since Halloween is coming up soon I would like to see you guys make a Michigan related fun/scary type vid. Maybe one about the legend of the Michigan Dog Man or something about some haunted Michigan location. Whadaysay?
mark, I can tell you about one. A cabin outside of Ispheming Mi. where a local Veterinarian had a side bizzness giving abortions until he was busted by the police in the early, I believe 1970's or very late 60's. It has been reliably reported that when you spend a few nights in that cabin you will begin to hear baby's crying to the point you will not be able to sleep.
You can find information from the local historic societies. The historian at Fayette State Park. But, it can be hit or miss. The easiest information to find on the story is in the book "True Tales - the Forgotten History of Michigan's Upper Peninsula" by Mikel Classen.
Definitely a heart-warming story of a community of caring people taking agency for what is acceptable. My question is of the other members of the community who participated in the subjugation and enslavement of women. How can an individual find it in their heart to cast another as a tool for their own satisfaction? How can such a person find a community, and clearly there was, complete with thriving businesses, of like(weak)-minded people who can treat others in such a way? Who were these people and how did they get that way?
A question for the ages, I fear. Fayette was unique in only that they purged the criminals. Unfortunately, the terrible treatment of women (and other people) seems to have been a norm in the frontier of America. While many of us don't understand the behavior, it is a well known story from our history. Humans seem to have a capability to be horrible and amazing, but Fayette was not unique in the subjugation and enslavement of others. For sure, a good share of America was enslaving African Americans at that time. Thankfully, we have progressed some and I don't think we have a good answer to the question of "why" - at least I don't.
@@RestlessViking Well said Vike! From my own research I have come to the conclusion that without a "social safety net", especially for women and children, they, women, had no choice but to turn toward prostitution to make a living. I am glad today we do have such a "social safety net" to help those women and mothers when put in a bad situation. Life can be so very cruel. :(
I live in the UP, been here 6 years. Ive never lived in a place with drunker men who get away with abusing their partners. Whatever michigan did in the 1800s was no where near enough. I miss civilization and non xenophobic drunks as neighbors. If i had known how drunk, violent and ignorant the UP was i never would have moved here.
That's the hard truth, brother, this world is the opposite. The good news is, mankind's Savior is going to begin His eternal reign as King of kings and Master of lords from Jerusalem, before too long now.
It's not supposed to be...God's Kingdom is Heaven. We are living through trials and free will in order to earn our place in Heaven. You need to go back to church.
Been to Fayette. Very cool. But as Paul Harvey used to say, I did not know "The rest of the story!" Great post!
Very cool!
Absolutely love the rich history of Michigan. Thank you for bringing us such great stories of our Michigan history! Thank you Viking and popins!
Glad you enjoyed it
You two are an inspiration! My wife and I love your work and we have started planning our weekend travels around your episodes. Thanks for sharing stories and history about Mi that we would never have known otherwise!
Wow. Thanks so much for watching!
This is a story the world needs to hear! Thank you for this!
I didn't know this about Fayette..... Great info.....
For those who have never been there ... that place is CREEPY..... with a capital C
I'm from Upper Michigan thanks for sharing the history nobody talks about
Wow, I've been to Fayette a few times now; in fact, I was just there last Monday. I had no idea of all this history. I keep recommending your channel to all kinds of people, even my doctors and nurses! Please keep the history and great stories coming!
We did a frozen waterfall tour in January a couple years and stopped by Fayette. We were the only ones there. It was kind of erie but pretty amazing too!
Thanks for another great video!
It is a little spooky when no one is around.
@@RestlessViking "a little" ... "kind or eerie" .... it's more than that .... those are past spirits you are feeling & my guess is life in Fayette during boom times was less than pleasant.
and by the way - I don't believe in the Occult , but you can't ignore the feeling you get there. Next time you are there , look at the old photos ... NOBODY is smiling in any of them.
@@csnide6702 It is not "Occult", but rather paranormal or supernatural.
I have relatives in Michigan and Wisconsin. I was born in Oshkosh (1952) but was raised in Sacramento County, California. My ancestors arrived in Michigan in the late 18th century. My great-grandfather lived near Houghton, on the UP, and had a farm on the Sturgeon River near Chassel, where my grandfather was born. I only visited there once when I was 20 in 1972. Thanks for uploading these videos.
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for sharing this bit of obscure history. This kind of information is important and the story needs to be told. Thank you again for telling that story.
I’ve been to this area and never knew the whole story. Wow, thank you.
Our pleasure!
What an excellent look into our rich history and this story is so pertinent to today. Keep the stories coming cause we love hearing them.
I never knew that about Fayette--but there were a LOT of small towns in Michigan and Wisconsin that had a sordid history. I remember my Mom saying that during the logging days there was a saying "Heyward, Hurley, and Hell" and she would tell stories (greatly sanitized of course) about Hurley and some of the other towns along the Wisconsin portion of US 2/141. I was like, really, Mom, these are just blink or miss nothing towns and she would say, they are now but they weren't back then. So you just never know about an area! Really enjoy your channel and have been spreading the news.
Thanks for spreading the news! For sure, the dark past was spread across the northern frontier. Fayette was just a good back drop for a video and a place where they fought back.
Yeah, Wisconsin has the strip clubs still with gambling mafia crap and I recall hearing of more than one of the guys who were with a stripper as their woman in the UP and not only western. Actually, now that I think about, was more eastern for some reason and the western side was more the actual strippers showing up on campus at Tech. Hhhmmm, kind of like the LSSU girls showing up I guess.
You should consider capturing on video what you remember from the stories.
@@chicccky Unfortunately it's too late as they have all passed away.
Your channel is now my favorite. Please keep up the good work! I’m recommending you to all my fellow Michiganders!
Awesome! Thank you! We'll do our best.
Great History and Video! Learning something new every time I watch your videos! Thank you for Sharing! Reminds me of the story of a King on Beaver Island, I think he died of lead poisoning!
You guys did a nice job. Delivery from the start got me interested and? You were interesting! Thank you much? Also, you both have kind eyes. Thanks for that too. Have a good travel when you pick the next place.
Very well done sir and Poppins..
Thank you kindly.
Ever thought about doing a story about what was happening on North Fox island in the 60's and 70's? Still watching from the South Pole station - one month left...
Hey Brendan One month. . . I would imagine you are ready to leave by now? I have thought about a story about North Fox and the pedo. Its an all around sad story.
I deer hunt in this area. You two have some really good Michigan history. I am a history buff and your channel has taught me a lot of stuff from my home state keep up the good work.
Thanks! And glad to have you here.
Glad the channels getting attention.
That was interesting. Thank you! Russ
Thanks for watching
It is awesome to hear history and we as people,must keep it alive and well for future generations to be educated on our history.
Thanks for posting this vital history. My mother, sister and I visited Fayette several years ago, but knew nothing of the story you told.
Thank you for sharing this history.
I love the Michigan History. Thank you for putting all of this together.
I’m a Yooper and I’ve never heard of this. Cool man. I’d love more Yooper stuff.
I'm learning so much about my home state from your videos and travels. Thank you!
thanks for the interesting history lesson.
You bet! Thanks for hanging out with us!
Great story!
Thank you!
Shhhhhhhh viking ever since covid the city folk came out an said is that a tree wait is that water wait maybe a lake shhhhhhhhh, great vids vik & Poppins 👍
Yooper here! Visit Fayette about once a year. Love our UP thanks so much for this video my friend!
I appreciate your courage to post this, and the reality of what at times becomes the responsibility of the citizens.
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Sounds like we could use an old fashioned “Broom Handling” again today. Sex/human trafficking is well on the rise again, even in Michigan.
That wasn't a furnace the lady was standing in at the beginning. It was where they turned wood to charcoal. They then used the charcoal to fuel the furnace in the big building to melt down the ore into iron bars.
My friend just told me about your channel. Loving the history.
Thanks for stopping by!
You should do a video on Harrison, MI. Founded as Budd Lake Village, Harrison became the village name after plans for the F&PM RR would run through the village. By the late 1800s, much like Fayette, Harrison had a gambling and sex trade problem. Except, fed up with getting arrested, the lumbermen of the town that were getting arrested, ran the county sheriff out of the county. Harrison and thus Clare County stands as the only lawless county in MI in history.
Next time we're on Rt 2 we'll check it out, thanks!
awesome video! speaking of some old upper peninsula secrets. There is a not well known underground tunnel in the soo that connects many of the old businesses/bars on portage, i know the palace restaurant has an entrance in the basement, some places have it blocked off. had a chance to check it out years ago but it never materialized. Would love to see a video and learn the history of the tunnel. I've heard mixed things from it was built by the army or for smuggling during prohibition. would be great to know the real answer. keep up the great work and great videos
user, Saginaw waterfront also.
@@Jay_Hall nice! haven't heard of this before. thank you
@@Jay_HallBay City as well. There's a whole underground city along the waterfront. Shops, streets, sidewalks, street lights, etc. You can still get to some of it if you know the right people.
That's a very cool story!! J & C
Just new to your channel, from New Brunswick Canada 🇨🇦
Welcome! Love New Brunswick!
Thank You
Vike and Poppin,,telling it like it is!! HuRaHH! :)
We stayed at a inn up in Eagle River in the UP on Lake Superior one winter. The owner told us a lot of history of the area from the early days. Seems they had a dock out into the lake and on Fridays the ladies of the night would show up by boat and the drunk men would pay for services. Well when the women finally had enough they burned the dock and was never rebuilt.
Great story!
Fayette is super cool. Have been ther by boat twice and by land twice. Didn’t know this history
I’m from Cooks a township not to far from Fayette And I haven’t heard that story. I have heard a story of a a man who ran a brothel in Manistique would regularly send his women to Seney until another man opened up his own Brothel there. The man from Manistique wasn’t too happy about someone stealing his customers and went up and shot him and later the Seney man’s family hunted him down and killed him in return.
I've heard that one two. It seems that brothels were pretty prevalent in the UP back then.
Brothels were prevalent nationwide, and *legal*, as was the slavery the women endured. Yes, slavery! Many of those women had not been kidnapped, but *sold*, typically by their own fathers who used the money often to feed the remainder of their family. It was finally ruled illegal by the Supreme Court in 1915. I suspect that Prohibition was passed to break up the red light districts where the slaves were used. Prohibition may not be the mistake it is portrayed to be today.
I just found your channel recently. Love it!
I'm torn. I love sex but hate traffic..
😂😂
Awesome
Check out the story of the Island on Fife Lake.
Yooper to the core. Check out the Minoan writing on the walls of an ancient copper mine.
They could have just gotten rid of the sold-out Sheriff, gotten a judge and a new Sheriff, been deputized and ... All of that needed to be done regardless and those evil sex mills did not appear overnight and did not continue without local support.
I'm not commenting about this vid but I'm making a request for another vid. Since Halloween is coming up soon I would like to see you guys make a Michigan related fun/scary type vid. Maybe one about the legend of the Michigan Dog Man or something about some haunted Michigan location. Whadaysay?
We just filmed two ghost stories last weekend. Edit should be done next week. Unfortunately tho, we disprove them.
mark, I can tell you about one. A cabin outside of Ispheming Mi. where a local Veterinarian had a side bizzness giving abortions until he was busted by the police in the early, I believe 1970's or very late 60's. It has been reliably reported that when you spend a few nights in that cabin you will begin to hear baby's crying to the point you will not be able to sleep.
You can never beat an enemy if they are more ruthless that you . . .
That's absolute.
Ukraine is beating an enemy more ruthless than them. Thank God.
I stay in Sac bay , could I bother you on where you got this info ? I’d love to research some more .
You can find information from the local historic societies. The historian at Fayette State Park. But, it can be hit or miss. The easiest information to find on the story is in the book "True Tales - the Forgotten History of Michigan's Upper Peninsula" by Mikel Classen.
Thanks !!!
Definitely a heart-warming story of a community of caring people taking agency for what is acceptable.
My question is of the other members of the community who participated in the subjugation and enslavement of women. How can an individual find it in their heart to cast another as a tool for their own satisfaction? How can such a person find a community, and clearly there was, complete with thriving businesses, of like(weak)-minded people who can treat others in such a way?
Who were these people and how did they get that way?
A question for the ages, I fear. Fayette was unique in only that they purged the criminals. Unfortunately, the terrible treatment of women (and other people) seems to have been a norm in the frontier of America. While many of us don't understand the behavior, it is a well known story from our history. Humans seem to have a capability to be horrible and amazing, but Fayette was not unique in the subjugation and enslavement of others. For sure, a good share of America was enslaving African Americans at that time. Thankfully, we have progressed some and I don't think we have a good answer to the question of "why" - at least I don't.
@@RestlessViking Well said Vike! From my own research I have come to the conclusion that without a "social safety net", especially for women and children, they, women, had no choice but to turn toward prostitution to make a living. I am glad today we do have such a "social safety net" to help those women and mothers when put in a bad situation. Life can be so very cruel. :(
Kind of like "Rich men north of Richmond"?
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They need to repaint those buildings
This and worse is a big problem in the Soo.
I live in the UP, been here 6 years. Ive never lived in a place with drunker men who get away with abusing their partners. Whatever michigan did in the 1800s was no where near enough. I miss civilization and non xenophobic drunks as neighbors. If i had known how drunk, violent and ignorant the UP was i never would have moved here.
You are free to leave anytime you want.
A militia was formed.
You do realize the town of Fayette is now a ghost town, this world is not Gods kingdom
That's the hard truth, brother, this world is the opposite.
The good news is, mankind's Savior is going to begin His eternal reign as King of kings and Master of lords from Jerusalem, before too long now.
It's not supposed to be...God's Kingdom is Heaven. We are living through trials and free will in order to earn our place in Heaven. You need to go back to church.