I have tested this character on B98 he was tanking all hits and I only needed to auto battle the fight. I did boost him to almost 18-20k HP giving everyone around a 2k veil with his 3rd limit break. Veil also protects against poison as long as the attack doesn’t break the veil. He is a must use character IMO.
The fact he has Kamura "sword" with pdef instead of mdef is amazing. Overall I think he is quite the powerful character and will only get stronger with more costumes
Agree. Also it's always guaranteed pdef with extra patk buff if Angeal meets HP requirement, so you always get that shield. Truly amazing weapon. Also agree. Angeal seems amazing at launch and I'm curious how they may expand his moveset further. I'm so glad Angeal isn't another Cait Sith case because he really deserves to shine
You saying that you haven't got enough gems when sitting on 147k is really making me rethink my choices in this game. I don't think I've ever had that many all at once
147k looks like a lot of crystals but during Half Anniversary or Monster Hunter Crossover I pulled to ob10 one character in those exclusive double character banners. Each banner cost me 90k crystals (or more) to get just one weapon to ob10. I didn't have good banner luck though. I'm also an anxious hoarder.
I pulled to get 1 copy of his LB weapon, got lucky with 2 at once! But his sword has veil and provoke. So I figure that might be useful. Going to wishlist his P.atk & p.def sword. Saving for whatever is next now.
Having provoke and veil at same times on his weapon is nice. His other weapon with aoe pdef buff + patk one is nice too. But the wrong part of the LB banner is the skill : 940% of water damage... Glenn and even Cloud will be better dps with their sub-weapon. And we will need a water debuff in the team for strong boss fight, so sephiroth. With a Water debuff, he could be way better. Or maybe a non-elem weapon ? Same for the costume : why 5% def for everyone ? Should have been something better for a tank : Maybe something like Aerith bahamut or Barret electoarmor : Boost HP +10 Phys. & Mag. Defense +20% I think they failed this banner 😢
Cloud isn't a great water dps. His Maritime deals only 750% water damage compared to 940% on Angeal. Glenn deals 900% but with StD can buff his water damage further. 750% Maritime vs 940% Angeal is a big difference. Also another 35% water potency with Arcanum too compared to Cloud's 20% water potency on his outfit (if you have it, if not then Baha is good alternative). Also Glenn&Angeal have patk all too, so they boost everyone's phys attack by 25% with their weapon in main slot. 940%+arcanum and subweapons allow Angeal to do solid dps while also being able to provoke and tank the hits and he still has a secondary slot for another command ability. I think Def All isn't bad at all because sometimes I found myself struggling to get everyone's defenses high enough, and that Def All can give a nice bump. Also Aerith's Bahamut outfit does have 20% defenses+10%heal but it's on a second bottom r ability (top r ability is 5% atk all allies). With Year 1 Anniversary they started to add X (atk/def) All r ability on LB outfits with second bottom ability giving something else. So with Angeal def all is nice, but his second bottom ability is taken by Water Arcanum, so there isn't any place for anything else. I agree with you that a full tank outfit would be better. Def All + second ability with 20% defenses and 10%HP would be the best possible pure tank outfit. But since it's Water Arcanum banner, I think they did what they could with it. And agree. Seph with 700% and ability to debuff water resistance is amazing is ideal to be paired with Glenn/Cloud/Angeal.
Agree. I'd say it's a very nice banner if someone is missing phys water dps for their team. Otherwise, we have Cloud, Glenn or Seph who are more than enough.
Realistically, how much is the 5% from the costume? A stock character comes with 100/100 P/M def. So we will get +5. If a character invest in P/M def, he might get to 200. So we will get +10 To sum it up - you can get 5 to 10 points in defense - woah, for a limited banner. Compare this to non limited banners, where you get 20% like Barret, or all new regular banners that come with +15% Def + 5%HP .... 100% skip
You are right. My friend pulled on this banner and he was gracious enough to let me access his account to test. I wanted to see if 5% def all only scales with default character defenses or if you buff defenses with weapons and materia, it may scale higher. So, even if you have 200 defense from materia, weapons and brands, it still only adds +5. Even with defensive Highwind buffs when we have 110-114 base defenses, the outfit still only adds +5 def. So yes. I agree. It is quite underwhelming. That r ability sounds better than it is unfortunately. It's not bad but +5 def is incredibly easy to get just from a single materia. Not even Barret - Bahaerith has +20% defenses on her outfit with +10% heal on same r ability. Barret's outfit is a true tank outfit and I hope that Angeal can get a similar outfit on another banner. If they didn't insist on making Angeal's launch banner a LB water arcanum, I think such banner outfit could have been a lot better for Angeal. But I stand by what I said regarding the weapon. 940% with Veil and Provoke seems great. I wouldn't say it's a must have or game changing because if you have LB waterGlenn I don't think it's necessary to invest into Angeal's water. But if someone has been missing good phys water dps, I think Angeal's water arcanum set is really good.
@@End7essness 940% Water on the weapon sounds very tempting. But what role we gonna aim with that weapon? If it is a tank, we will invest in def and HP, so his dmg will be low. If we invest in dmg, his tankiness will be low. Probably the only practical use of such mix would be a strong water DPS with ability to absorb some nasty status effects (that hit with low dmg like 1k)....
Some big players who ob10d Angeal did run some tests and 940% Angeal vs 900% Glenn without Slay the Day buffs, both set as offensive dps and Angeal outdpses Glenn, while still having those defensive abilities like Provoke and using Veil on himself. The only way for Glenn to outdps Angeal is when he has StD buffs. You could set up Angeal with this banner as anything you want. Want him to be dps? He will be very good. He can have his water weapon and his other launch sword to buff pdef+patk too on whole team and can be used as offensive dps but with those support abilities. Which I'm suspecting may likely be the case in the upcoming guild ranking.
To be honest, I think he is being overrated. Either other characters will get provoke as well, or it will stay only relevant to very few specific encounters. I also don't like having one of the DDs wasting ATB to support the team. Especially very high difficulties are usually dps checks, so ideally two DDs and one Sup is ideal. I'm sure he will have his moments, but even Vincent (which I OB10 his White Dog) doesn't convince me yet. (+ we can see which characters, once again, will be getting the "higher" cross over gear) Some of Angeals weapons are great subweapons though.
I have tested this character on B98 he was tanking all hits and I only needed to auto battle the fight. I did boost him to almost 18-20k HP giving everyone around a 2k veil with his 3rd limit break. Veil also protects against poison as long as the attack doesn’t break the veil. He is a must use character IMO.
The fact he has Kamura "sword" with pdef instead of mdef is amazing. Overall I think he is quite the powerful character and will only get stronger with more costumes
Agree. Also it's always guaranteed pdef with extra patk buff if Angeal meets HP requirement, so you always get that shield. Truly amazing weapon. Also agree. Angeal seems amazing at launch and I'm curious how they may expand his moveset further. I'm so glad Angeal isn't another Cait Sith case because he really deserves to shine
You saying that you haven't got enough gems when sitting on 147k is really making me rethink my choices in this game. I don't think I've ever had that many all at once
If you want ob10 i guess no amount of crystals is enough
147k looks like a lot of crystals but during Half Anniversary or Monster Hunter Crossover I pulled to ob10 one character in those exclusive double character banners. Each banner cost me 90k crystals (or more) to get just one weapon to ob10. I didn't have good banner luck though. I'm also an anxious hoarder.
I pulled to get 1 copy of his LB weapon, got lucky with 2 at once! But his sword has veil and provoke. So I figure that might be useful. Going to wishlist his P.atk & p.def sword. Saving for whatever is next now.
Having provoke and veil at same times on his weapon is nice.
His other weapon with aoe pdef buff + patk one is nice too.
But the wrong part of the LB banner is the skill : 940% of water damage...
Glenn and even Cloud will be better dps with their sub-weapon. And we will need a water debuff in the team for strong boss fight, so sephiroth.
With a Water debuff, he could be way better. Or maybe a non-elem weapon ?
Same for the costume : why 5% def for everyone ? Should have been something better for a tank :
Maybe something like Aerith bahamut or Barret electoarmor :
Boost HP +10
Phys. & Mag. Defense +20%
I think they failed this banner 😢
Cloud isn't a great water dps. His Maritime deals only 750% water damage compared to 940% on Angeal. Glenn deals 900% but with StD can buff his water damage further. 750% Maritime vs 940% Angeal is a big difference. Also another 35% water potency with Arcanum too compared to Cloud's 20% water potency on his outfit (if you have it, if not then Baha is good alternative). Also Glenn&Angeal have patk all too, so they boost everyone's phys attack by 25% with their weapon in main slot.
940%+arcanum and subweapons allow Angeal to do solid dps while also being able to provoke and tank the hits and he still has a secondary slot for another command ability.
I think Def All isn't bad at all because sometimes I found myself struggling to get everyone's defenses high enough, and that Def All can give a nice bump. Also Aerith's Bahamut outfit does have 20% defenses+10%heal but it's on a second bottom r ability (top r ability is 5% atk all allies). With Year 1 Anniversary they started to add X (atk/def) All r ability on LB outfits with second bottom ability giving something else. So with Angeal def all is nice, but his second bottom ability is taken by Water Arcanum, so there isn't any place for anything else.
I agree with you that a full tank outfit would be better. Def All + second ability with 20% defenses and 10%HP would be the best possible pure tank outfit. But since it's Water Arcanum banner, I think they did what they could with it.
And agree. Seph with 700% and ability to debuff water resistance is amazing is ideal to be paired with Glenn/Cloud/Angeal.
Ample amount of crystals. The banner value is alright tbh.
Agree. I'd say it's a very nice banner if someone is missing phys water dps for their team. Otherwise, we have Cloud, Glenn or Seph who are more than enough.
He great but I would only do 1 page his costume great
Endless you may be able to afford 2 pages for him unless you waiting or your ultimate husband Sephiroth
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Realistically, how much is the 5% from the costume?
A stock character comes with 100/100 P/M def. So we will get +5.
If a character invest in P/M def, he might get to 200. So we will get +10
To sum it up - you can get 5 to 10 points in defense - woah, for a limited banner.
Compare this to non limited banners, where you get 20% like Barret, or all new regular banners that come with +15% Def + 5%HP ....
100% skip
You are right. My friend pulled on this banner and he was gracious enough to let me access his account to test.
I wanted to see if 5% def all only scales with default character defenses or if you buff defenses with weapons and materia, it may scale higher. So, even if you have 200 defense from materia, weapons and brands, it still only adds +5.
Even with defensive Highwind buffs when we have 110-114 base defenses, the outfit still only adds +5 def.
So yes. I agree. It is quite underwhelming. That r ability sounds better than it is unfortunately. It's not bad but +5 def is incredibly easy to get just from a single materia.
Not even Barret - Bahaerith has +20% defenses on her outfit with +10% heal on same r ability. Barret's outfit is a true tank outfit and I hope that Angeal can get a similar outfit on another banner. If they didn't insist on making Angeal's launch banner a LB water arcanum, I think such banner outfit could have been a lot better for Angeal.
But I stand by what I said regarding the weapon. 940% with Veil and Provoke seems great. I wouldn't say it's a must have or game changing because if you have LB waterGlenn I don't think it's necessary to invest into Angeal's water. But if someone has been missing good phys water dps, I think Angeal's water arcanum set is really good.
@@End7essness 940% Water on the weapon sounds very tempting. But what role we gonna aim with that weapon?
If it is a tank, we will invest in def and HP, so his dmg will be low.
If we invest in dmg, his tankiness will be low.
Probably the only practical use of such mix would be a strong water DPS with ability to absorb some nasty status effects (that hit with low dmg like 1k)....
Some big players who ob10d Angeal did run some tests and 940% Angeal vs 900% Glenn without Slay the Day buffs, both set as offensive dps and Angeal outdpses Glenn, while still having those defensive abilities like Provoke and using Veil on himself. The only way for Glenn to outdps Angeal is when he has StD buffs.
You could set up Angeal with this banner as anything you want. Want him to be dps? He will be very good.
He can have his water weapon and his other launch sword to buff pdef+patk too on whole team and can be used as offensive dps but with those support abilities. Which I'm suspecting may likely be the case in the upcoming guild ranking.
Will angeal one of your main team?
New husband for you crystals. :D
Lol i even summoned myself I love Angeal as a character
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To be honest, I think he is being overrated. Either other characters will get provoke as well, or it will stay only relevant to very few specific encounters. I also don't like having one of the DDs wasting ATB to support the team. Especially very high difficulties are usually dps checks, so ideally two DDs and one Sup is ideal.
I'm sure he will have his moments, but even Vincent (which I OB10 his White Dog) doesn't convince me yet.
(+ we can see which characters, once again, will be getting the "higher" cross over gear)
Some of Angeals weapons are great subweapons though.
You where wrong about not getting to level 90 🫣