@@stefanroche3052 because he doesnt like 3S. Nuki explained why in an old stream, but I think it's because of the whole throws being invuln til like frame 4.
@@stefanroche3052 i might be very wrong but one reason to consider is that the japanese 3s scene was packed with insane players and although his skills are indeed mindblowing, he was "just" an average top player in japan on 3s and could never have achieved the domination he did on 4 on it. Being the competitor that he is, the appeal might not have been there
Daigo's play is so different and brilliant even compared to the current top-tier players, not just skillful but it's so shiny and gives us simple unexplainable waoh 😮
I'm no Daigo Fan, he played very well, and very impressive. Damn some stuff was realy impressive, he got talent, and was very entertaining to watch, to sad that he left SF3 for SF4, so that his SF3 skills were later nothing compared to 2003.
REALSlutHunter thank you REALSlutHunter it’s good to know that you’re not a daigo fan but that he played well and is talented. It really is a shame he didn’t ignore a new thriving game to stick to an old soon-to-be competitively-irrelevant game that more and more people were quitting. That he decided to showcase his talent in a new era with an explosive exponential increase in FGC growth. It was just as sad when he stopped playing SF2 as much to body people in 3S, but you gotta do what you gotta do 😫👌🏻💯🔥
Well, Daigo has said that he doesn't like 3s at all. If you see him play Super Turbo it's clear he's still pretty good at that game, I think the loss of skill has more to do with Daigo just disliking the game and never touching it now that it isn't relevant.
You know some of these confirms Daigo hits are absolutely insane. 11:40 he actually confirmed that cr.mk straight into MP shoryu super like that??? There are other instances just like that. Daigo always says he was never that good at 3S but I beg to defer from some of this footage. And this is from 2003 way before a lot of the newer 3S tech started coming out.
yea im surprised id never seen this final before, i think its the best ive ever seen Daigo play 3s, his confirms were insane. Who the fuck confirms ken c.mk like that damn
Do you mean c.mk,dp,SA-3 ? If so, that's not very hard :) I even can do that, and i play with a PS1 Pad. It's way harder to do c.mk to SA-3 directly, (like at 1:31) or c.mp to SA3, and the hardest is standing mp to SA-3 directly. If you try c.mk to SA-3 directly, the game give you less time to connect, and you must do. c.mk -> 2 x 20-30° motion + lk/mk/hk in a extreme short time, the timing between c.mk and 2 x 20-30° must be perfect. If you do c.mk, and push down right at the same time, you must just slide from down right to right, and push hp at the same time, then ken will do the c.mk + dp
Yeesh, here comes positive “racism” I guess... If they’re both Asian that explains it. Frickin’ nanosecond mastering geniuses. Same with real life martial arts. Every fighting game tournament I’ve seen, it’s ALWAYS someone far Eastern guys that win. Except for when Sonic Fox turned bitch and used Alien against that Canadian guys Mileena in MK XL.
It's honestly pretty easy. If you walk forward before inputting cr.mk, you only need to do QCF for Shoryu to come out, and then you just do another QCF to activate the Super. MP Shoryu also gives you plenty of time to do so.
El dia de hoy leendo unos foros de Internet sobre en que consola jugaron esa evoo alle datos de que daigo quedo en segundo :v y justin en puesto 3 ese tipo de ko y yun otro nivel
i dont understand exactly what happened, daigo won multiple times more than KO, why was the announcer shouting match point for KO? was daigo in a losing bracket or something....im confused...
That System suck ! Daigo won 3 matches in a row, and 5 in total, and KO just 3. What a fucking unfair way to count a winner. For me Daigo is the winner, and i'm not a Daigo Fan, but he deserved to win, he was by far better, and more entertaining to watch.
@@REALSlutHunter 100% agree with you. I think Yun (KO) is kinda boring doing almost the same combo everytime just to rackup damage, daigo instead i can tell hes all about the mindgames and reads and crazy combos that he comes up at the moment. For me its like Hungrybox (yun) vs Mango (ken) for supersmashbrosmelee kek, idk if anyone knows that reference but i hope so.
Yun is OP in 3rd strike. Ken's super should have continued the combo, but the devs designed Yun's super to prevent the opponent's super from continuing. Daigo showed that a lower tier character can compete with a Yun player. If Daigo mained Yun and if this was a mirrored match, it would have been a different result.
What the hell happened at the end of the last match? Daigo seemed to have timed his super at the right moment but then KO just said NO and stopped it somehow. Then all he had to do was show him his ring finger. Did Daigo stop the move? Did it clash with Yuns attack?
When Yun is in genei jin. All his moves (normal, special) have super art priority status. So when it goes against another superart. They will cancel each other out, but Yun will keep the remains of his super/timer bar.
Sorry, those answers arent true at all. Its only because Kens super start up isnt totally invincible and it traded with yuns move. There are supers in the game that have total invincibility and will beat yuns normals.
Las finales del Evo funcionan así. Se enfrentan el ganador del winners bracket contra el ganador del losers bracket. Se enfrentan en un duelo ft3 (el que gana 3 partidas primero gana el set). Si el que gana el set es que viene de winners, la pelea se acaba ahí y el es el campeón. Pero si el que viene de losers gana el set, entonces se vuelve a jugar otro ft3 y el que lo gane será el campeón. En la partida del video, Daigo es el viene de losers, y ganó el primer set 3-0, pero KO ganó el segundo set 3-2, por eso es que KO salió campeón del Evo
Good fucking god, Yun was beyond op in 3rd strike! 1) consecutive genei jin's one after the other in a single round 2) combos that juggle for days 3) INSANE genei jin pressure 4) +50% dmg combos easy How is it that Chun Li and Ken get all the hate for being broken, but no one ever mentions Yun about this game?
Nobody says Ken is broken in 3S unless they're retarded. He is 3rd best, but not broken like Chun is. Yun is also insane of course, but as Roy said, more execution heavy.
Yun has low health. 1-2 correct reads can be a game winner. And Yun in low forward range can only do low forward xx dash punch, which isn't scary. And if blocked, he eats massive damage.
Yun is broken as fuck, but his combos are very difficult to learn. Ken can basically link everything to SA3 and Chun-LI has a SICK SA2 which makes them easier to play.
Idk I’ve seen better players lmao this daigo guy isn’t really doing anything interesting like at 11:32 being a good example like really if he actually played the game he would’ve known yun was going to get you and to use the power up at that moment was redundant to begin with he already lost. I’m not trying to say the guys unskilled I’ve seen him play other games like gear really well but I’m this game he looks overrated he’s always whiffing normals in this game likes he’s just mashing this dudes not as good as Kuroda.
They need to stop commentating these Fighting game tournaments, it's so fucking annoying having the sounds of the game and crowd be secondary to the god damn commentators, saying EVERY MOVE like blind people can't tell from the fucking sound
Good on you, bro. Daigo May be a Ken user (my favorite character) but the player is overrated. It’s great to see him lose. He’s not perfect after all people.
michael scoggins Agreed. “Ah, he lost one time to one of the best players in the world in one of his least liked and least played entries in the SF franchise, against one of the only two characters stronger than Ken. How amazing! This totally invalidates every other tourney he’s won alongside his over a decade’s worth of experience! Somehow!” This ja-brony needs to delete his comment LOL
![EVO 2009: Justin Wong [L] vs. Daigo Grand Finals SFIV FULL MATCH](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/YkNwnQzagbE/mqdefault.jpg)
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this looks like some ancient mayan footage that was excavated from thousands of years ago.
God bless VHS ! :)
Best comment ever on a fighting video :D
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nice find, but it belongs to a museum
saw this live in 2003 at Cal Poly; hands down in my opinion the greatest finals of all time; was so quick and fast paced..never a dull moment
Daigo displaying more fundamentals 20 years ago than 90% of players could hope to today
I’m lookin at this and other Evos like damn why did Daigo stop playing 3rd strike? Seeing his Ken and Tokido’s Urien feels good asf
@@stefanroche3052 because he doesnt like 3S. Nuki explained why in an old stream, but I think it's because of the whole throws being invuln til like frame 4.
@@stefanroche3052 i might be very wrong but one reason to consider is that the japanese 3s scene was packed with insane players and although his skills are indeed mindblowing, he was "just" an average top player in japan on 3s and could never have achieved the domination he did on 4 on it. Being the competitor that he is, the appeal might not have been there
@@thiraeldefinitely wrong
11:08-11:15 17 years later I still laugh my ass off at this
I miss when people used to chant along with shit. People screaming AY with sidewinder loops or genei Jin was so hype.
That sequence from 2:16-2:28 was a great display of conditioning
That was nasty!
One of the best finals of all time; Daigo the beast Vs K.O!
Daigo has said this is the best yun he's faced in 3rd strike!
daigo was so aggressive in third strike, i loved it. dang i miss the ol days.
So incredible.
Daigo's play is so different and brilliant even compared to the current top-tier players, not just skillful but it's so shiny and gives us simple unexplainable waoh 😮
Seriously, I can't believe Daigo lost when he was playing too well, but KO is on another level, good fight
daigo in the juggle , "im so fucked , shit out of luck" LOOOOL
I'm no Daigo Fan, he played very well, and very impressive.
Damn some stuff was realy impressive, he got talent, and was very entertaining to watch, to sad that he left SF3 for SF4, so that his SF3 skills were later nothing compared to 2003.
REALSlutHunter thank you REALSlutHunter it’s good to know that you’re not a daigo fan but that he played well and is talented. It really is a shame he didn’t ignore a new thriving game to stick to an old soon-to-be competitively-irrelevant game that more and more people were quitting. That he decided to showcase his talent in a new era with an explosive exponential increase in FGC growth. It was just as sad when he stopped playing SF2 as much to body people in 3S, but you gotta do what you gotta do 😫👌🏻💯🔥
Elias Darling
Damn why’d you have to do him like that
Well, Daigo has said that he doesn't like 3s at all. If you see him play Super Turbo it's clear he's still pretty good at that game, I think the loss of skill has more to do with Daigo just disliking the game and never touching it now that it isn't relevant.
Sick ass match that was so tight
You know some of these confirms Daigo hits are absolutely insane. 11:40 he actually confirmed that cr.mk straight into MP shoryu super like that??? There are other instances just like that. Daigo always says he was never that good at 3S but I beg to defer from some of this footage. And this is from 2003 way before a lot of the newer 3S tech started coming out.
yea im surprised id never seen this final before, i think its the best ive ever seen Daigo play 3s, his confirms were insane. Who the fuck confirms ken c.mk like that damn
Do you mean c.mk,dp,SA-3 ? If so, that's not very hard :) I even can do that, and i play with a PS1 Pad.
It's way harder to do c.mk to SA-3 directly, (like at 1:31) or c.mp to SA3, and the hardest is standing mp to SA-3 directly.
If you try c.mk to SA-3 directly, the game give you less time to connect, and you must do. c.mk -> 2 x 20-30° motion + lk/mk/hk in a extreme short time, the timing between c.mk and 2 x 20-30° must be perfect.
If you do c.mk, and push down right at the same time, you must just slide from down right to right, and push hp at the same time, then ken will do the c.mk + dp
Yeesh, here comes positive “racism” I guess... If they’re both Asian that explains it. Frickin’ nanosecond mastering geniuses. Same with real life martial arts. Every fighting game tournament I’ve seen, it’s ALWAYS someone far Eastern guys that win. Except for when Sonic Fox turned bitch and used Alien against that Canadian guys Mileena in MK XL.
It's honestly pretty easy. If you walk forward before inputting cr.mk, you only need to do QCF for Shoryu to come out, and then you just do another QCF to activate the Super. MP Shoryu also gives you plenty of time to do so.
@@x123Juancho123x yea it's definitely easy, no argument there. What I'm talking about the hitconfirm, THAT is not easy. difference.
His parries are sick!
El dia de hoy leendo unos foros de Internet sobre en que consola jugaron esa evoo alle datos de que daigo quedo en segundo :v y justin en puesto 3 ese tipo de ko y yun otro nivel
I'm not very familiar with the FGC, but what happened to KO? Is he doing okay? Somehow, I haven't heard anything about him in years.
Pelea entre bestias del Street
i dont understand exactly what happened, daigo won multiple times more than KO, why was the announcer shouting match point for KO? was daigo in a losing bracket or something....im confused...
Daigo won the first set, then KO won the next 2. It's best of 5, so KO was at match point every time he won a round.
Daigo was in losers bracket
That System suck !
Daigo won 3 matches in a row, and 5 in total, and KO just 3. What a fucking unfair way to count a winner.
For me Daigo is the winner, and i'm not a Daigo Fan, but he deserved to win, he was by far better, and more entertaining to watch.
@@REALSlutHunter 100% agree with you. I think Yun (KO) is kinda boring doing almost the same combo everytime just to rackup damage, daigo instead i can tell hes all about the mindgames and reads and crazy combos that he comes up at the moment. For me its like Hungrybox (yun) vs Mango (ken) for supersmashbrosmelee kek, idk if anyone knows that reference but i hope so.
I dont like Yun fights in general. Yun is sooooooooooo boring to watch, just Yang is even worse to watch.
Yun is OP in 3rd strike. Ken's super should have continued the combo, but the devs designed Yun's super to prevent the opponent's super from continuing. Daigo showed that a lower tier character can compete with a Yun player. If Daigo mained Yun and if this was a mirrored match, it would have been a different result.
Am I seeing things or they're playing without the dezzy?
Damn good eye!!! It does look like it!! Hard to tell sometimes because of the 10p resolution lol
What the hell happened at the end of the last match? Daigo seemed to have timed his super at the right moment but then KO just said NO and stopped it somehow. Then all he had to do was show him his ring finger. Did Daigo stop the move? Did it clash with Yuns attack?
not sure if im necro-ing this comment section but yun's genei jin has priority over pretty much everything which is why he's top tier
When Yun is in genei jin. All his moves (normal, special) have super art priority status. So when it goes against another superart. They will cancel each other out, but Yun will keep the remains of his super/timer bar.
Sorry, those answers arent true at all. Its only because Kens super start up isnt totally invincible and it traded with yuns move. There are supers in the game that have total invincibility and will beat yuns normals.
if a super priority attack trades with a normal attack then the super will win, but since Yun has super priority in genei the attacks traded
Pingas at 0:14?
I like 6 but compared to this both 6 and 4 feel like mud. It’s amazing we got a 4-6 at all though. This was THE game fir competitive.
Awesome match!
Simply crazy
Legendary 🐐🐐
porque perdio daigo? si llevaba 4 y este ko menos de 3 creo
Las finales del Evo funcionan así. Se enfrentan el ganador del winners bracket contra el ganador del losers bracket. Se enfrentan en un duelo ft3 (el que gana 3 partidas primero gana el set). Si el que gana el set es que viene de winners, la pelea se acaba ahí y el es el campeón. Pero si el que viene de losers gana el set, entonces se vuelve a jugar otro ft3 y el que lo gane será el campeón.
En la partida del video, Daigo es el viene de losers, y ganó el primer set 3-0, pero KO ganó el segundo set 3-2, por eso es que KO salió campeón del Evo
So weird hearing people root for yun
No it's not everyone chants when he's doing a juggle
Good fucking god, Yun was beyond op in 3rd strike!
1) consecutive genei jin's one after the other in a single round
2) combos that juggle for days
3) INSANE genei jin pressure
4) +50% dmg combos easy
How is it that Chun Li and Ken get all the hate for being broken, but no one ever mentions Yun about this game?
I've never heard of Ken being broken! Chun is broken cuz of low short super, and her normals have hella range speed and priority
Nobody says Ken is broken in 3S unless they're retarded. He is 3rd best, but not broken like Chun is. Yun is also insane of course, but as Roy said, more execution heavy.
Yun has low health. 1-2 correct reads can be a game winner. And Yun in low forward range can only do low forward xx dash punch, which isn't scary. And if blocked, he eats massive damage.
Yun is broken as fuck, but his combos are very difficult to learn. Ken can basically link everything to SA3 and Chun-LI has a SICK SA2 which makes them easier to play.
Mvc2 players transfer to Yun very well! 😁
Idk I’ve seen better players lmao this daigo guy isn’t really doing anything interesting like at 11:32 being a good example like really if he actually played the game he would’ve known yun was going to get you and to use the power up at that moment was redundant to begin with he already lost.
I’m not trying to say the guys unskilled I’ve seen him play other games like gear really well but I’m this game he looks overrated he’s always whiffing normals in this game likes he’s just mashing this dudes not as good as Kuroda.
Peak Ken
11:08
They need to stop commentating these Fighting game tournaments, it's so fucking annoying having the sounds of the game and crowd be secondary to the god damn commentators, saying EVERY MOVE like blind people can't tell from the fucking sound
Well if you don't like it then don't watch it
FUCKIN HYPE!
For 3 matches, Daigo was a god. The next sets? KO was a god
True GF at 5:04
Yun so OP. GJ juggles so cheap.
The shitty game of Daigo...
The game of Diego happens to be interesting why you have an issue there
Good on you, bro. Daigo May be a Ken user (my favorite character) but the player is overrated. It’s great to see him lose. He’s not perfect after all people.
Cringe
michael scoggins
Agreed. “Ah, he lost one time to one of the best players in the world in one of his least liked and least played entries in the SF franchise, against one of the only two characters stronger than Ken. How amazing! This totally invalidates every other tourney he’s won alongside his over a decade’s worth of experience! Somehow!”
This ja-brony needs to delete his comment LOL
julian12465 yeah when I see stuff like this I just think about how magical the internet can be.
Try to tell capcom to make a balanced game