Beset on all sides by tough competition from the Fractal North, Lian Li Lancool III, 216, and Hyte's own Y60, the Y40 struggled to make a mark when it came to thermals. Build quality is good, but watch the review for the caveats! Watch our Hyte Y60 review: ua-cam.com/video/QNfsG-Ai2PA/v-deo.html Our case testing and reviews are unique for their depth. Support our efforts & get something great in return on our store! store.gamersnexus.net/
It’s nice to see that you’ve stood by your tears to accept or reject adverts from the company. No point saying it’s ok, but then goes on to advertise it in later videos.
@@troypeters4704 all builds are different. They're dumping a lot of heat in the case to purposely test it's thermal design. If you aren't loading it as high, it'll be absolutely fine.
I still think dropping the corner was a bad idea. That made the old case stand out extremely well among the barrage of "this has a glass panel front and side" cases. Sure, the price is down $50 but now it just looks like any other case.
The talk about the advertising pool is something I think is really good for us as consumers. If we know you were asked to advertise it and said no, that's good information for us. Not many youtubers are that open about this kind of stuff, and you tend to have people advertising all sorts of random shit... or just plain bad products.
I have not used an SATA SSD or SATA HDD in years, and neither have most of my PC friends, even at work now. So the lack of space for them would not bother me. If you are building a new PC these days with the new chips, an AIO liquid cooler is almost needed anyway, so I like cases that focus towards that. I would never buy this case for air cooling, but would seriously consider it if I was building a new unit and use a nice AIO. I guess this review doesn't help me with that thinking.
@@Jsteeeez Yes, I need to think before I type, sorry. I don't use the spinning ones SATA HDD any more lol or SATA SSD's. Thanks for keeping me straight.
And this is why I stay with GN. Factual reviews. No BS. Honesty and transparency (rejecting ad for a product that doesn't meet standards). You have a lifetime viewer and supporter!
They need to offer more than a corner, if enough people decide that a corner if the reason to buy a pc case 🤨 then other manufacturers will start offering the same corner, or even a more cornery corner
They should make a case that's a triangular prism, with square sides, a triangle base, and a triangle top. That way, it would fit the corner of a room. They could fit the motherboard IO into a compartment that allows you to route the cables through the bottom of the case, letting it sit flush with a corner. Or, they could let the motherboard IO poke out of recesses in the side faces that can be covered by a plate when not in use. It would look unique and cool. They could call it the Y80.
I think you should either provide more than adequate cooling or no fans at all. I feel like most people want all their fans to match so the 2-3 fans a pc comes with end up being e-waste and additional cost.
I think in a way this is what they were doing. From what I gather, the case was designed for an AIO to be mounted on the side by design. In fact if you look at their own site, any time the case is shown with any fans mounted in it at all, there's always an AIO on the empty side mounting area. With an AIO factored in, the case comes with only the fans needed to get adequate cooling to all components.
I agree, however I found that using one of those just for the rear exhaust works pretty well, it does make some noise but not that much and it moves A LOT of air, and it is barely noticeable because of the massive noctua cpu cooler lol
I imagine this is going to be mostly used for their ibp prebuilts where they can change that fan configuration. Like you said there are better options for cases at this price point. Unless you really like the look, which isn't unique now, then there doesn't seem a reason to buy the y40.
Dropping the corner was a bad idea. However, I am using the Y40 in my newest build and have had zero issues with thermals or acoustics. Im running an i9-13900 with a 360MM Galahad and a PNY XLR8 4070ti with 2 Lian Li fans on the side, one on the bottom, and one in the rear, plus the 3 on the AIO ofc. IDK, maybe im just not a picky as some, but I love the set-up, though again, I wouldve preferred the chopped corner. MIcro Center didnt have the Y60 in anything other than white when I was there, so I went y40.
Although I'm not into a new case (still rocking my old chieftec from 2003) I really enjoy watching these reviews. Not only they are kinda entertaining but also educating in terms like design choices both from technical and aesthetical standpoint.
You got me beat, I am still using my Deepcool Kendomen which I think came out in the mid teens but I can't find anything specific other than some 7 year old reviews on PC parts picker. Still has all 5 original fans and does what it needs to do. Has its 3rd build in it now, I don't see any reason to change. I did have to modify the side panel to fit a monster Cooler Master MA624 stealth in it, but it was just a bit of excess material removal so no big deal. Coolest, quietest running 5600 ever, no kill like overkill!
@@--_DJ_-- that's hilarious. I could never see myself get a huge case, and I somehow enjoyed SFF, but don't anymore. I'm gonna join the Fractal North train because it's tasteful on the outside, and just normal on the inside. Also I'm tired of roasting my DDR4 alive in an RVZ03.
i dont think ltt would have been lost forever without steve calling linus, ltt has plenty of connections within youtube and for a creator as big as ltt, youtube has to have its safety nets for its biggest earners but its certainly nice to see they have each others backs and definitely reduced the impact it may have had on the business otherwise
Love the attention to detail and design on the bottom air filters...Hyte, not sure if you know but nobody looks at the bottom of their case. Function over form is better.
Hey, dude! TBH I don't watch your channel. But seeing how concerned you were about LTT and Linus gives me some hope. Celebrities are often wacking idiots, but there is some genuine friendship/care here, and that's wonderful to see!
I seriously considered the 5000D. Went for the O11D because of the height difference that would allow for it to sit under a shelf on my desk. I’ve built in the 5000D for a friend and it looked good with the airflow panel, especially with the gratuitous RGB fans.
@@smoketinytom Isn't that the Corsair that costs like $250 or $300? I looked at the pricetag and thought it was a joke. This is still not bad like many of Fractal or whoever making those ugly 2000's era boxes with closed front and godawful thermals, but if I was gonna spend anything near Corsair money I'd actually get a cool case like Hyte or Snowblind LCD, or a Lian Li, or I'd just get any of the many equally good or better fulltower front mesh cases liek Phanteks for a third of the price you get with Corsair. I will never for the life of me understand why anybody still buys Corsair. It was the thing back in the early 2000s for sure, but these days it just feels like a shodily built overpriced scam like how I feel about Lovelace video cards and is why I refused to pay scalpers. I sincerely think consumers are just idiots and solely buy off the shelf at Best Buy or Microcenter whatever crappy brand rammed their brand name down everyone. It's basically like what Dell did, that they covered it up with a cheap plastic shell.
Owning a Y40, I definitely agree with some of the points about airflow being average. I was getting ready to get roasted by the review for my choice over the Y60 for the extra graphics ventilation, but it wasn’t as bad as I expected. The system copes pretty well overall with a full complement of fans and a side mounted 240 AIO. The lack of full height expansion card support is a bit of a pain considering I wanted to get a Thunderbolt 4 card, but I have a few ideas of how I can mount one behind the graphics card vertically 😉 The fans are configured as recommended in the user guide: Top Exhaust Rear Exhaust Side Intake Bottom Intake Specs: I5-13600k MSI Z790 MPG Carbon Wifi (why aren't the diag segment displays on cheaper MSI boards 😢) MSI Ventus 3X RTX 3080ti 32gb (2x16) Corsair Dominator 5600 5 x Thermaltake Pure 12 ARGB fans Thermaltake TH240 ARGB AIO Thermaltake GF3 850w PSU EDIT: The temps from running through a pass of Timespy extreme, so not prolonged, but an idea of what it would be like. Definitely not to any standard of testing. Massive props to GN for the quality there! Ambient: 28c/83f (Because 'straya) CPU Max: 91c/196f (with a rough negative voltage offset applied, gaming is typically more around the 50-60c mark) GPU Max: 78c/173f (stock) Fan RPM Max: 1300rpm (still plenty of headroom with my fan curves) Came out with an overall score of 9447 I wanted an aesthetic build that wouldn't choke off the graphics card. I feel like it's delivered. I certainly would love lower temps, but these are certainly low enough for me that I'm not too concerned.
I also one a Y40 with 7950x3D with 360 AIO. Max temps when playing games is 77C with quiet fan settings (customer fan curve). Full compliment of fans is necessary to keep it cool though.
Very nice to see Gamers Nexus case reviews. I originally found your channel when I was searching for decent cases to sell to my customers back in the early 2000's. Thank you for continuing to review cases in a professional manner
I sympathize because Hyte is in a tight spot on the fans. If they do supply the extra needed fans for the stock config, then they risk creating waste in the instances where the buyer does actually want to use an AIO and they have the fans already. Now there are two extra fans that likely aren't needed.
So did I. Just change the case from Hyte Y60 to Lancool 216 2 days ago. I was consider 5000D, Lancool 216 and NZXT H7 flow. Glad I go with Lancool 216 for the price but mainly for the bottom side mesh panels for more height air intake.
@@friendlyhobo6483 Probably can get a roll of Dust Mesh Filter and magnetic tape ( if the roll don't come with ) to DIY. They ( the filter ) have it in white and black. My small problem is that big hole, lol! Lianli give the top seal plate and a fan bracket might as well add another seal plate for the inside ( next to the bottom front fan), lol!
@@friendlyhobo6483 Yeah they seem to be having stock issues in some countries, I had to wait a few weeks for the cases to be in stock in the UK. Definitely worth the wait though, i'll be moving my current system into it soon, just deliberating on the cooling solution to get.
Honestly, if I were in the market for a new PC Case, I'd rather wait for when the Lian Li O11D Evo XL officially comes out and you guys do a review on it. It's probably the only case, other than the Fractal North previously, that I've been excited for.
I've been waiting for the NZXT H9 but it's been out of stock for over a month now, same with their vertical GPU mount. At this rate I'm gonna go with 011D Evo and mod it to have the all glass corner
Its all about the money with these guys, companies pay them shit loads to throw them a bone. Notice how they badly they rated the case temps for Hyte (even the Y60's) yet just 4 months ago they rated the Y60 as the best overall case of 2022. Also there was that little pop in there for Fractal Designs, yeah that was definitely pay to advertise. I only trust Toms anymore. GN used to be awesome but they sold out long ago. I still love them though and enjoy their reviews but I take what they say with a grain of salt.
I'm pretty sure GN are very transparent with their advertising, I dont see where there is any bias in this review other than pointing out the pro's and con's on this case and comparing it to other cases in its class.
@@HAL--ov4qu they did say in that best cases of 2022 vid that the Hyte Y60 won due to its unique design, and that the Torrent was still very competitive for that spot. Even if the Hyte won best overall, they still highlight some cons they found.
I bought this case because I needed a smaller width cast to fit on my desk and this was the only “fishbowl” style case that I enjoyed. Really would’ve wanted a h9 flow if I could fit it instead.
I love the Y60. It's such a cool design. I honestly want a y60 that is the same shape but larger to fit a EATX and 140mm fan on the back. No interest in the H40 though. Without the cut corner, it's nothing special to me personally.
Totally understand everything very well with what Steve and the rest of the team said. As someone who bought this for a "showcase" build and had a lot of extra fans laying around, getting around the out of the box airflow or lack thereof was something I had already understood. That being said, as a price to performance compared to pretty much any other case at that price point, yeah it's probably the worst. I just really liked the aesthetic and whenever I upgrade my GPU I was planning for either one that comes with an AIO or doing a custom loop in it possibly. Good review 👍
If you're buying it for a showcase build, then why not buy the Y60 instead and have a showcase that will really stand out? I understand not finding the thermal issues and other stuff problematic, that's fine. But why go for the far more generic looking case of the two if the whole point is showcase?
@@ShroudedWolf51 I wanted the extra GPU clearance from the side panel, since this one is four slots wide instead of 3. My card is experiencing normal temps, same as I had in my TD500 mesh
I agree with you; they should either include enough fans to cover all fan slots, or include no fans and just let the customer buy their own. Personally, I would go with "no fans, I'll buy my own" as I tend to replace stock fans with better ones, anyways, but other people may want to simply have all needed fans included. And yes; get rid of the excessive branding. One or two somewhere on the case is plenty, spend the money into making the product better instead.
I would still go with "no fans" because you can get a 5 pack of Arctic fans that will do a good job for pretty cheap. Just because it's "provide your own fans" doesn't mean it has to be $30 per fan.
@@mjc0961thats true, but they could also just execute it better. Fractal provides fans in their cases and the stock configuration is good enough to not worry about fans at all. They are quiet and cool, all you need from a fan right (Atleast in 2 aircooled midrange builds ive done for me and my brother in meshify 2 and meshify 2 compact). Although your point still stands. It could be cheaper and you buy your own cheap fans, but with the cases I mentioned you atleast get a complete compentent product
I disagree, this case is, obviously, built for an AIO and a GPU in vertical orientation. The AIO will come with the 2 missing fans. You just install it and you have the best cooling configuration: 1) the CPU draws chill air from outside the case; 2) the GPU has a bit of extra chill air from the fan at the bottom. This is also why the bottom plate only has wholes till the midle: to assist channeling that air into the fans of the GPU when the GPU is installed in the vertical orientation. This seems like a very well thought out case for the specific group of people who want a showcase PC with vertical GPU mount. And this is the configuration GN didn't test at all.
I have the Y40 with a 13900k and a Strix OC 4090. I use a 360mm AIO for the CPU and replaced both fans with beQuiet Silent Wings 4 Pro to a total of 3x 140 and 4x 120mm (incl. AIO). While gaming CPU and GPU are around 65°C, BUT this is only possible with an offset of -70mV for the CPU and 70% PowerLimit of the GPU with a noise level of 26db. Nevertheless, I sure have not the possibility to compare it to other cases, but for me if works perfectly and I love the design. Criticism that Hyte only adds 2 fans, I can agree 100%. I think almost everyone will add their own - they should have leave them out and reduce the price by 15€...
Thank you, big fan of your channel and your work! I totally agreed and laughed when you pull out the bottom filter, from opposite sides, design failed. I also appreciated and used the bottom cable tunnel you pointed out to hide the extra cables. The two included 120mm fans are a waste for me. I use a 140mm for the bottom and RGB fans to dress this case up. This case is slightly shorter as I can only install two 120mm fans on top; since I installed 280mm AIO cable up. From your video, 360 AIO on-the-top look is even worst. With all that, still I feel that you are being too tough on the Y40 and missed some highlights. I really liked the top side & rear panels that are made of steel and nicely painted. This is the best looking “clear corner” case on the market. It is solid built with a removable front glass (by removing six screws) which helps a lot with the built. My cooling is PRETTY GOOD with two 140mm side intake fan (w/AIO), one 140mm bottom intake; one 120mm rear and two 120mm top exhaust fans. My 6800XT fan only spins in games. Nonetheless, Hyte could improve on its design; such as reduce the screws holding the front glass and improve bottom air / fan design instead of the current ugly plastic black box. With everything considered, I still think this is a top looking case, solid built and reasonably priced; especially considering fans are the cheapest components on my build list.
I bought the Y40 a month ago, but I have a custom loop so maybe the out of the box thermals are not a huge concern to me, I have a 360 on top and a 240 on the side.
I'm shopping for cases, and I was considering the y40, because saving 50 bucks to get rid of the angled tempered glass panel seemed like a pretty good deal, as long as the case was quality otherwise. I have to express my gratitude to how honest GN is, because this just saved me a massive headache.
So I was one of the folks that bought this case as soon as it was available because I just actually liked everything from the start and my previous tower just had to go to the big ol' PC Tower Farm in the sky. I'm glad I had an AIO from my previous case. I have a Corsair H115i and didn't have issues with the tubes being ran from the bottom to the CPU, and also have an Asus Strix OC 3090 in the system too and I have to say yes 100% your own stuff is the way to go. My idles are great and when running stuff don't notice a drastic shift from the idles either, maybe 3c or 4c diff while gaming. Really enjoying it myself from the eldritch beast of a case I had before and has been a massive upgrade/improvement for me in a number of ways I appreciate. Certainly the kind of case for someone in a similar situation that I was in - having all the bits and bobs from one case into another.
Cutting corners well also testing is something that many case makers forget. And is odd that a case has custom foam and hidden branding when it's meant to be a cheaper product.
hi steve, thanks for covering this case, since i bought it recently. thanks for the call out on fan arrangement - i changed my fans to use 1 rear exhaust, 2 side intake and my arctic liquid freezer II 360 on the roof (also exhaust), with no floor fan. i don't hit thermal cap any more on 7950x and stay about 82-85C on each CCD when stressing all cores. glad to see my case on this channel! too bad it won't be in the advertising loop. as you said, 'it looks nice' :-)
I have this case and personally I love the way it looks so much that I don't mind the rest. I don't do anything extremely intensive on it so thermals have never been a huge deal. However I will say this about included case fans--from my perspective the rule should be "go big or go home". Either include a full set of high quality fans (not RGB necessarily, just solid performance and not an eyesore) or nothing at all. I expect that nearly everyone who buys the Hyte Y40 replaces the fans, like I did. So, knowing that, why do they include fans at all? It's the easiest cost saving measure in the world.
@@cgwworldministries83 I don't doubt the fans move some amount of air but that's not my point. Why bother including cheap, noisy, visually unappealing fans when the vast majority of people are going to replace them anyway? Either include good fans or no fans.
@@aperson9847 why? It's not hurting anyone. Calm down Karen. It's not that serious of a problem. Go buy some Noctua fans and relax. I promise it's going to be ok.
@@aperson9847 I am. It's always been this way though. With all the time bellyaching and bikeshedding you could have bought some fans with that time and effort. They give you 2 free fans to tide you over on your build until you can buy more later. It'll work for now until you can get more. $150 is steep for not including at least 4 fans but at the end of the day it's not really that big of a deal. There's multiple other reasons to not like this case but to fault it due to the fans, is like complaining that your brand new car didn't come with a full tank of gas.
Coming from someone who has been seriously considering this case I have a few points I'd like to mention. First of all, they include a Pcie 4.0 riser for the vertical GPU mount. This is a massive saving compared to buying your own brackets and cables to suit like other manufacturers. Sometimes upwards of $100 aud. (Lian Li/Corsair) I am also considering this case because of its vertical GPU mount, this is unique in it's own right, very hard to find a nice case that can handle a 360 Radiator + Vertical Mount + overall nice to look at. Plenty of things I agree with in this video, but overall this case actually does provide decent value.
Huh, a double-stacker water cooling radiator setup - just like CPU tower coolers - rad + fan + rad + fan ← i've never seen this idea implemented …i'm sure, it's feasible! It might require a little more space than the H-Y40, for all the plumbing - DUDE, i'd love to see this tested! (edit: fixed the plurals)
have this case. love it. for general gaming, thermals are fine, no thermal throttling with my 7900xtx taichi which is running 430W. imo case looks very nice as a display piece, really like that there is no bezel between the glass pieces compared to other similar designed cases. i was initially looking at the y60, but i didn't want something so wide. so seeing this with a very similar look but a tad slimmer is nice
These are the specific design elements that had me purchase this as well in red. Going with two 140mm intake fans and a be quiet cooler. Gamers Nexus' honesty is appreciated though.
i dont know if this comment is needed, but being fairly telling in your thumbnails, would never cause me to say "yeah, i guess i dont need to see this video". if you said in your thumbnail "no need to watch this vid, because this [product] is junk" i would still watch the video to see what you said. another great video, ty guys for doing what you do!
I am surprised with how negative the overall was. I have always appreciated the standardized testing, but the reality is that nobody building in this class of case gives a rats backside about the included fans. You don't by a case that's got so much visibility without throwing in your own fans. I would of liked the case to be a couple bucks cheaper with no fans as the first thing I did when I got it is toss the fans. Same as I do with every case. I have a 280 AIO as intake with a 140 intake in the bottom. 3x 120's as exhaust on the top & no fan in the rear. I lack the testing equipment you have, but I can say definitively that this case is quiet & cool with a 5900x & a TUF 4080. One of the things I would love to see from your case reviews is the cases fully populated with the appropriate sized fans. Outside of the low end of cases it would paint a much more clear picture of the performance most of us can expect since even if its just the arctic bundle packs most folks will be populating most if not all fan locations. It would also be a drawback for most enthusiasts if all fans were populated from the factory. The fans are one way that we now use to customize the aesthetics of a build. I know that of my 6 fans I have 3 different model fans all from the same manufacturer (NZXT in my case as I wanted the 140's on the side intake to have the backside RGB).
I could feel the genuine regret from you that this case just isn’t it. It was the nicest let down you could do while still saying “No”. Thanks for the fair review!
@@Chadok89 putting water in a Torrent literally nullifies its most important features. The 180mm fans and the airflow. Get a high-end dual tower air cooler instead, its more reliable, quieter and cheaper.
@@cszolee7979 it doesn't. The aio keeps the cpu cool while remaining silent and the bottom fans keeps a fresh airflow to the gpu. If you find a air cooler that is more effective and more silent than the Liquid cooling 420, I'm all ears.
I currently have this case and have zero complaints. I wanted the Y60,but i needed the extra space between the glass and my rtx4080. The Y60 puts the card too close to the glass. The Y40 is perfect. I personally think Hyte has the best-looking cases on the market. And i feel this review is somewhat biased. Just because they didn't include extra fans for thermals. That's sorta like intel, not supplying a cpu cooler anymore. Most people building a computer like to add their own fans, etc. Hyte supplies the locations. You add ur own fans. Im currently running a Corsair top mounted water cooler with exhaust fans. Two Corsair 140 mm intake fans. One Corsair 120mm exhaust fan. And the stock Hyte 120mm fan at the bottom beside power supply. All running through the icue software. Set color to solid white. And my computer runs nice and cool. No thermal issues at all. And it looks great.
9:37 IMHO, those bottom-intakes, and the shroud-through-vents seem actually quite clever. It directs air flow towards the glass side panel, which ultimately feeds fresh air to the GPU. Although, i DO see a flaw - there should be some kind of baffle, in order to redirect & avoid recirculation of spent/hot air at the bottom/near the PCIe end of the GPU.
You are correct about the bottom vents. I can feel the hair being blown up in front of the GPU fans in mine if I take the side off. The re-circulation thing is valid, but what case doesn't have this as normally this air would be bouncing off the motherboard. And at the end of the GPU most new GPU's are flow though. I was worried about this initially blowing against the intake on the back of the case, but even in the review the temps were cooler with this vs side exhaust which would be the cleanest air flow.
Nice detailed review. I found the design and quality of the Hyte Y60 far superior in many ways. I built both the Hyte Y60 with the RTX 3080 Ti FE and also the Y40 with the RTX 4090 FE and ended up changing the Y40 for another Y60 as I am disappointed with the quality and design of the Y40 and also because the RTX 4090 Founders Edition is exactly 3 slots wide and fits in the Y60 anyway. The only advantages of the Y40 over the Y60 are the 4 vertical slots for the oversized GPUs and the lower dust filters that are easier to remove for cleaning. Other than that, it has no grommets to hide cables and has less space for cable management with the bottom fan installed. The single fan location beneath the plastic floor of the case is a nightmare for cable management and PSU connections (no dedicated chamber) and this fan proved to be absolutely useless for improving GPU and case thermals because the floor is only partially open for airflow, compared to the Y60 which has an open floor made of metal with a dedicated chamber for dual 140mm or 120mm fans just below the GPU. Also, the mounting location on top of the Y40 does not allow for a 280mm radiator to be installed and it overhangs the motherboard a lot, even hiding the RAM sticks by over 2cm (TUF GAMING Z790-PLUS WIFI motherboard used) which does not look good for RGB RAM. Also, it is not possible to install a rear fan with a Corsair H150i 360mm radiator installed on top, unless you only use 2 screws to install the rear fan lower, or drill an additional hole to fix it with at least 3 screws. No such problems with the Y60.
I bought the Y60 for my first ever build and was kicking myself for not going with the Y40. I am now glad that I did get the Y60. Building out of the case does seem to be more frustrating given that bottom intake configuration interfering with cable management.
Experiment: Could you try punching real holes into the case and internals where they look like there are holes and reevaluate the thermals? It would be interesting to see what the implied ventilation would actually provide.
NZXT H9 Flow would be my choice now. Also interested in which of the cases offers the most room for a vertically mounted GPU, as both HYTE cases aren't very good for example.
The more cases I see reviewed, the more I love my Coolermaster NR200p. It only supports mitx, so I had to 3d print a bracket in order to use my old matx mb, if it wasn't for that I would recommend that case to any pc builder.
I get the review in stock form and with only 2 fans added. But when you also add the 3 top fans, it changes thermals dramatically as well. And most who build PCs will add a full set of fans. My Y40 has to 2x 140 side intake fans, 3x 120 top exhaust fans, 1x rear exhaust fan and 1x bottom intake fan. And I have zero temp issues regardless of stress test I run (I heard a lot about these running hot, so thoroughly tested mine) Price point and lack of included fans for the price, I can understand the bad review though.
With all the branding everywhere and price, it would have been nice if they’d focused some of the budget for that on, oh idk, making sure the design worked thermally. The hype that companies like Hyte push behind products like this often ends up resulting in disappointment. I’m glad you guys called them out on the potential downfalls of over-prioritizing a “customer experience.” Fractal, Lian Li, and Noctua are great examples of companies that have a sense of reserved confidence in their marketing, with an emphasis on engineering.
Completely valid to test with an air cooler. As someone running a Ryzen 5 gen CPU I still use an air cooler and I do like for cases claiming to support them.
Got Y40 because it fits precisely into my desk PC stand - height, lenght and width wise. Got the same 4070Ti Aero and 7900X with 360mm AIO, unvervolted both and temps are absolutely fine. CPU doest go over 70C, GPU over 60C. The SSD bracket needs to be reworked, there is no clearance for SATA power cables when SSD are screwed down. When SSD bracket is populated I couldnt fit my RGB hub anywhere at the back as there is no flat surface letf. Both included fans are complete garbage and waste of money. Also space for cable management is very limited when using bottom fan, 2,5" drives, cable extensions and RGB hub. Omitting rubber grummets is another fail as you can see cables behind the motherboard tray. Overall it is a good design that needs to be polished in future versions (all white version as well please?) and it would be a stellar case. I am really happy with it though as it fits perfectly into my desk and is an absolute looker!
Asked so many times, never got an answer: why aren't you reviewing any Jonsbo cases? They have many interesting and innovative designs that would be surely more interestng than the usual 3 frontal fans or lian li clone layouts...
We get like tens of thousands of comments a month and don't answer all of them. This is the first time I've even seen yours. The answer is simply that they haven't made anything that's caught our eye lately. We can check again, but it doesn't mean we'll review one necessarily. We've looked at them in the past because they supplied a lot of companies in the old days (e.g. Rosewill), but not lately.
@@5h4f1 yea, the new VR4 and VR3 have fairly unique charateristics, same for the new D41 with his peculiar power supply position. I'd love to see the thermals tested on those configs tho.
Man, I wish you made this weeks ago. lol. I already bought the case albeit I'm still happy with it. I have 2 120mm intake fans with the stock fan exhaust, AIO CPU with top exhaust, and the bottom stock fan as the intake. I do wish the GPU temps would be lower but this case has been an improvement from my previous case which is a current plus.
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate GN's no-nonsense video titles? Hopped in here just to leave a like onto the video. Shoutout to my favorite tech host, Steve!
I never heard Akamai used in a business but its great to hear that word outside of Hawaii. Kind of used as smart or clever, hope it catches on more lol
This video is extremely misleading... Who in their right mind would run their case with only the two stock fans that came with the case..? CPU temps were only 3c warmer than the Y60 once adding a proper fan setup and gpu temps even lower?
@@tmbocelot Their reasoning is the company should provide more fans - 99% of people who buy cases that come with crappy stock fans simply swap them out for 3rd party fans anyways..? Hyte was able to make this case extremely affordable, even with things like the vert GPU mount, even running those graphs with 2 fans is stupid, OBVIOUSLY this case was not mean to be run with two stock fans ONLY lol . Not sure how you even found a year old comment but these guys are just nit-picking issues, the vast majority of people are going to load every possible space with 3rd party fans.
This review makes absolutely no sense. While I do understand the need to use the same components from case to case, the case should not be air cooled. Condemning a liquid cooled focused case for poor thermals when only an air cooler is tested, is like saying a Toyota Corolla is a bad car, because it failed the off-road test. At 8:35, you specifically say the Y60 and Y40 are liquid cooling focused as well!! Yet no liquid cooled testing was done, just to even see the difference. And then at 27:48, you proceed to say that if you want a $150 liquid cooling friendly case, then the Lancool is the way to go. This seems very hypocritical when zero information about the Y40's liquid cooling abilities were even discussed, except a weird section about radiator sizing. The Y40 fits a 240mm and 280mm side radiator just fine. As well as a top mount 360mm AIO, with no interference with RAM, the rear fan or any part of the system, I have tested all 3 and thermals are just fine with all configurations. It seems like you went into this review, knowing that you were going to bash it, and I just don't understand.
Hello GN love watching your vids and you are my go to channel for sure. Thanks for your hard work! I know its a bit unorthodox and Im not too sure if youd review it. But could you check out the Jonesbo D41 case? Is it too gimmicky? Or is it actually a functional case? The screen is a very unique feature I havent seen on any case before. Also the PSU is located in the front of the case.
The Y60 case is sweet looking with that angled side and adding the lcd display onto it. Looks like they took a backwards step from the Y60 instead of improving on an already decent design.
Also of note just 4 months ago they rated the Hyte Y60 the best case of 2022! Now why are they showing its case temps to be shit compared to the big list of cases in this video? I smell something fishy.
I avoided the Y60 because GN said to avoid it for air cooled GPUs. So I picked up a Y40 as it had that fish tank look with no corner post. I'm fine with the thermals in it. Running AIO on top, 2x 140mm as intake on the side and a modest GPU 6750xt. The CPU hits and maintains 95c under torture (all cores boosting over 5ghz so it's not throttling, just aggressive boosting), but that's just zen4 being Zen4. I got the Y40 with full knowledge I'd be tossing the fans and doing it differently. I feel it's still a good case if you know what you're getting into and you really want the aesthetic.
I'm usually on GN's side. But, this time, I strongly disagree with GN. The extremely harsh criticism on the matter of the 2 additional fans is very unjustified. It's not about "buy two additional fans". It's about "use the 2 fans which will come with your AIO anyway". Hyte is pretty clear in the marketing that this case is built for AIOs. They write the max height of the radiator just to make the life easy for all those 12 people who will use it with an air cooler. Why would they complicate things, on purpose, and loose a couple of potential clients when it costs them... nothing (an additional line in the manual)? Considering GN's frequent remarks about sustainability, avoiding single-use plastic, and other environmental subjects. I would have expected an actual praise from their side for building a case which doesn't force you to throw away 2 perfectly good fans in the first 10 seconds after unboxing. The standardized test here is a very wrong tests. It smells like lazyness from GN. All the video is about testing the case with an air cooler. No liquid cooling tested at all. Followed by a conclusion at the end : "lancool 3 is a better choice for liquid cooling".
Actually bought a new case recently. I settled on Antec DF700 Flux. Its been 2-3 months now and I love this case. Doesnt matter how big a gpu gets itl always fit. Quite suprised uve never covered that case. Its an $85 case that can fit a 360 top or front. It also has a 2nd intake zone on the other side panel that an intake fan sitting under the gpu pulls air from the side panel. It even comes with a full RGB/fan hub. I dont think its gets much better value for money.
Great review and content as always! ... but I think the info on the advertising rejection was information that maybe should have stayed internal. The review made its point of the product not being good, I think it's unnecessary to share this with the general public. IMHO.
The chart @19:18 shows the Lian Li Lancool 216 at the top for cooling under load but I’d like to point out that while the $114.99 ARGB version (white) includes two front mounted 160mm ARGB fans and a non-RGB 140mm rear exhaust fan…Lian Li doesn’t offer any matching ARGB fans to replace the plain exhaust fan or any of the other locations that could use them. The closest matching ring-type ARGB fans I could find was a $29.99 CoolerMaster MF140 Halo for the rear exhaust and a $61.68 3pk of MF120 Halo to replace the Corsair LL120’s in my AIO. I’m sick of the RGB failing on the LL120’s and CoolerMaster fan quality isn’t good IMO but I took another chance and I’m sure glad I did since they look great. My Godlike E-ATX MB easily fit inside the 216 and the same could be said for the Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC (but my EVGA RTX 2080 TI XC Ultra provided all the FPS I really ever needed. The 4090 is a waste IMO.) Anyway, Lian Li is missing out by not offering those optional matching ring-type ARGB fans, plus they could offer optional riser feet, or even wheels, to increase the bottom air intake. I use a modified file cabinet caddy. So $114.99+29.99+61.68= $206.66 + $13.71 for the optional magnetic front filter = $220.37 (+ tax) for a decent positive pressure case but the Lian Li 1.5mm mesh hole size allows more dust to enter than say the Phanteks 1.0mm mesh hole size so that’s something one may want to keep in mind.
I must admit, I still went with this case because I have a new AIO I plan on using. I’m very very excited, even if this case doesn’t perform thermally, that’s okay to me, because I had a 216x and it’s just.. kinda big, kinda boxy, not what I want for my build. Fantastic case. Just not what I’ve grown to like. I’m okay with sacrificing a few degrees for something I love looking at
Hope you guys revisit thermal paste testing soon. Both CPU and GPU - and maybe even laptops if you guys are feeling frisky. Some new players like SYY, Thermalright TFX are on the scene and making some waves. Also, look forward to critiquing thermal paste application.
Beset on all sides by tough competition from the Fractal North, Lian Li Lancool III, 216, and Hyte's own Y60, the Y40 struggled to make a mark when it came to thermals. Build quality is good, but watch the review for the caveats!
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missed opportunity "height (Hyte) difference" dad joke @ 03:27
yeah hyte is all hype from the shit company i butt power
Thanks Steve!
Video idea : everything about coil whine.
It’s nice to see that you’ve stood by your tears to accept or reject adverts from the company. No point saying it’s ok, but then goes on to advertise it in later videos.
Very disappointed in Hyte’s lack of awareness for the thermal, that’s the most important area for a good case regardless how it looks.
exactly specially if it costs so much
I’m actually getting decent temps in my case!
@@troypeters4704 stock or did you add the recommended fans?
@@troypeters4704 all builds are different. They're dumping a lot of heat in the case to purposely test it's thermal design. If you aren't loading it as high, it'll be absolutely fine.
@@troypeters4704 doesn't mean if u bought even cheaper case with better cooling airflow design you would see lower temps
I still think dropping the corner was a bad idea. That made the old case stand out extremely well among the barrage of "this has a glass panel front and side" cases. Sure, the price is down $50 but now it just looks like any other case.
Watching this in the morning!
Breaking news: Modern cases are the same. Boring and adhere to the Apple's dongle life.
Yeah, that corner was a strong brand identifier, if they want to focus on "brand experience" ditching that for 6 or 7 H's doesn't do it.
@@AlfaPro1337 But the cars have rounded corners without angering the Apple copyright gods.
Without that corner, it looks like any other case that resembles the Lian Li O11-Dynamic
The talk about the advertising pool is something I think is really good for us as consumers. If we know you were asked to advertise it and said no, that's good information for us. Not many youtubers are that open about this kind of stuff, and you tend to have people advertising all sorts of random shit... or just plain bad products.
They all shill for money. Even gamers nexus.
you will see jays two cents and Linus advertising this case within a few weeks lol.
I have not used an SATA SSD or SATA HDD in years, and neither have most of my PC friends, even at work now. So the lack of space for them would not bother me. If you are building a new PC these days with the new chips, an AIO liquid cooler is almost needed anyway, so I like cases that focus towards that. I would never buy this case for air cooling, but would seriously consider it if I was building a new unit and use a nice AIO. I guess this review doesn't help me with that thinking.
@@IDv8I you mean sata ssd or mechanical drive? Because no ssd or mechanical drive means no storage at all lol. Assume you use nvme SSD’s
@@Jsteeeez Yes, I need to think before I type, sorry. I don't use the spinning ones SATA HDD any more lol or SATA SSD's. Thanks for keeping me straight.
And this is why I stay with GN. Factual reviews. No BS. Honesty and transparency (rejecting ad for a product that doesn't meet standards).
You have a lifetime viewer and supporter!
many ironies cliches ... otherwise i agree
They should go all in with the corner design.
This is what makes it stand out from the competition.
They need to offer more than a corner, if enough people decide that a corner if the reason to buy a pc case 🤨 then other manufacturers will start offering the same corner, or even a more cornery corner
HYTE Y80… Now with 2 front glass corners!!
@@-opus it’s just brand recognition. Bit like Fractal and the mesh design. Worked well for them.
They should make a case that's a triangular prism, with square sides, a triangle base, and a triangle top. That way, it would fit the corner of a room. They could fit the motherboard IO into a compartment that allows you to route the cables through the bottom of the case, letting it sit flush with a corner. Or, they could let the motherboard IO poke out of recesses in the side faces that can be covered by a plate when not in use. It would look unique and cool. They could call it the Y80.
I think you should either provide more than adequate cooling or no fans at all. I feel like most people want all their fans to match so the 2-3 fans a pc comes with end up being e-waste and additional cost.
I think in a way this is what they were doing. From what I gather, the case was designed for an AIO to be mounted on the side by design.
In fact if you look at their own site, any time the case is shown with any fans mounted in it at all, there's always an AIO on the empty side mounting area.
With an AIO factored in, the case comes with only the fans needed to get adequate cooling to all components.
I agree, however I found that using one of those just for the rear exhaust works pretty well, it does make some noise but not that much and it moves A LOT of air, and it is barely noticeable because of the massive noctua cpu cooler lol
I imagine this is going to be mostly used for their ibp prebuilts where they can change that fan configuration. Like you said there are better options for cases at this price point. Unless you really like the look, which isn't unique now, then there doesn't seem a reason to buy the y40.
Dropping the corner was a bad idea. However, I am using the Y40 in my newest build and have had zero issues with thermals or acoustics. Im running an i9-13900 with a 360MM Galahad and a PNY XLR8 4070ti with 2 Lian Li fans on the side, one on the bottom, and one in the rear, plus the 3 on the AIO ofc. IDK, maybe im just not a picky as some, but I love the set-up, though again, I wouldve preferred the chopped corner. MIcro Center didnt have the Y60 in anything other than white when I was there, so I went y40.
Thought this was gonna be the case lol
Although I'm not into a new case (still rocking my old chieftec from 2003) I really enjoy watching these reviews.
Not only they are kinda entertaining but also educating in terms like design choices both from technical and aesthetical standpoint.
You got me beat, I am still using my Deepcool Kendomen which I think came out in the mid teens but I can't find anything specific other than some 7 year old reviews on PC parts picker. Still has all 5 original fans and does what it needs to do. Has its 3rd build in it now, I don't see any reason to change. I did have to modify the side panel to fit a monster Cooler Master MA624 stealth in it, but it was just a bit of excess material removal so no big deal. Coolest, quietest running 5600 ever, no kill like overkill!
@@--_DJ_-- that's hilarious. I could never see myself get a huge case, and I somehow enjoyed SFF, but don't anymore. I'm gonna join the Fractal North train because it's tasteful on the outside, and just normal on the inside. Also I'm tired of roasting my DDR4 alive in an RVZ03.
Thankyou for getting to Linus about the hack first and warning him what was going on, you rock!
Mans just saved Linus' channel. Huge props
What did I miss?
@@blackasthesky LMG got hacked and Steve sent Linus a text and basically saved their channels.
i dont think ltt would have been lost forever without steve calling linus, ltt has plenty of connections within youtube and for a creator as big as ltt, youtube has to have its safety nets for its biggest earners
but its certainly nice to see they have each others backs and definitely reduced the impact it may have had on the business otherwise
Linus should just open an advert channel and stop pretending.
That didn't age so well.
Love the attention to detail and design on the bottom air filters...Hyte, not sure if you know but nobody looks at the bottom of their case. Function over form is better.
What a chad. Gamers Nexus casually saving other channels. You rock!!!
Hey, dude! TBH I don't watch your channel. But seeing how concerned you were about LTT and Linus gives me some hope. Celebrities are often wacking idiots, but there is some genuine friendship/care here, and that's wonderful to see!
This was one of the cases I was potentially looking at, then I looked at the 4000d and bought the big brother 5000d instead
5000D did pretty well in our testing!
Felt
I seriously considered the 5000D. Went for the O11D because of the height difference that would allow for it to sit under a shelf on my desk. I’ve built in the 5000D for a friend and it looked good with the airflow panel, especially with the gratuitous RGB fans.
@@smoketinytom Isn't that the Corsair that costs like $250 or $300? I looked at the pricetag and thought it was a joke. This is still not bad like many of Fractal or whoever making those ugly 2000's era boxes with closed front and godawful thermals, but if I was gonna spend anything near Corsair money I'd actually get a cool case like Hyte or Snowblind LCD, or a Lian Li, or I'd just get any of the many equally good or better fulltower front mesh cases liek Phanteks for a third of the price you get with Corsair. I will never for the life of me understand why anybody still buys Corsair. It was the thing back in the early 2000s for sure, but these days it just feels like a shodily built overpriced scam like how I feel about Lovelace video cards and is why I refused to pay scalpers. I sincerely think consumers are just idiots and solely buy off the shelf at Best Buy or Microcenter whatever crappy brand rammed their brand name down everyone. It's basically like what Dell did, that they covered it up with a cheap plastic shell.
And I looked at the 4000D, and then 5000D and settled on the 7000D instead.
Love the 7000D.
Owning a Y40, I definitely agree with some of the points about airflow being average. I was getting ready to get roasted by the review for my choice over the Y60 for the extra graphics ventilation, but it wasn’t as bad as I expected.
The system copes pretty well overall with a full complement of fans and a side mounted 240 AIO. The lack of full height expansion card support is a bit of a pain considering I wanted to get a Thunderbolt 4 card, but I have a few ideas of how I can mount one behind the graphics card vertically 😉
The fans are configured as recommended in the user guide:
Top Exhaust
Rear Exhaust
Side Intake
Bottom Intake
Specs:
I5-13600k
MSI Z790 MPG Carbon Wifi (why aren't the diag segment displays on cheaper MSI boards 😢)
MSI Ventus 3X RTX 3080ti
32gb (2x16) Corsair Dominator 5600
5 x Thermaltake Pure 12 ARGB fans
Thermaltake TH240 ARGB AIO
Thermaltake GF3 850w PSU
EDIT:
The temps from running through a pass of Timespy extreme, so not prolonged, but an idea of what it would be like. Definitely not to any standard of testing. Massive props to GN for the quality there!
Ambient: 28c/83f (Because 'straya)
CPU Max: 91c/196f (with a rough negative voltage offset applied, gaming is typically more around the 50-60c mark)
GPU Max: 78c/173f (stock)
Fan RPM Max: 1300rpm (still plenty of headroom with my fan curves)
Came out with an overall score of 9447
I wanted an aesthetic build that wouldn't choke off the graphics card. I feel like it's delivered. I certainly would love lower temps, but these are certainly low enough for me that I'm not too concerned.
I have one and I mostly keep the side glass off. It's about 20 degrees less on GPU temps.
I also one a Y40 with 7950x3D with 360 AIO. Max temps when playing games is 77C with quiet fan settings (customer fan curve). Full compliment of fans is necessary to keep it cool though.
@@iHaveTheDocuments Do you reccomend to keep it off?
Very nice to see Gamers Nexus case reviews. I originally found your channel when I was searching for decent cases to sell to my customers back in the early 2000's. Thank you for continuing to review cases in a professional manner
I sympathize because Hyte is in a tight spot on the fans. If they do supply the extra needed fans for the stock config, then they risk creating waste in the instances where the buyer does actually want to use an AIO and they have the fans already. Now there are two extra fans that likely aren't needed.
I was considering this case along with the Corsair 4000D and the Lancool 216, I'm now pretty glad I chose the Lancool 216, so much case for the cost.
So did I. Just change the case from Hyte Y60 to Lancool 216 2 days ago. I was consider 5000D, Lancool 216 and NZXT H7 flow. Glad I go with Lancool 216 for the price but mainly for the bottom side mesh panels for more height air intake.
Lancool 216 case is incredible. The only problem was having to wait like 2 months for the front filter to be in stock.
@@friendlyhobo6483 Probably can get a roll of Dust Mesh Filter and magnetic tape ( if the roll don't come with ) to DIY. They ( the filter ) have it in white and black. My small problem is that big hole, lol! Lianli give the top seal plate and a fan bracket might as well add another seal plate for the inside ( next to the bottom front fan), lol!
@@friendlyhobo6483 Yeah they seem to be having stock issues in some countries, I had to wait a few weeks for the cases to be in stock in the UK. Definitely worth the wait though, i'll be moving my current system into it soon, just deliberating on the cooling solution to get.
I love how you used the phrase "Jobsian Dystopia". To describe the possibility of Hyte possibly wanting a brand experience.
Yuck. Nothing makes me want a product less than hearing about its "ecosystem." Apple has turned that into a very dirty word for me.
Honestly, if I were in the market for a new PC Case, I'd rather wait for when the Lian Li O11D Evo XL officially comes out and you guys do a review on it. It's probably the only case, other than the Fractal North previously, that I've been excited for.
LIAN LI EVO XL!!!! Yeah bois!!!!
I've been waiting for the NZXT H9 but it's been out of stock for over a month now, same with their vertical GPU mount. At this rate I'm gonna go with 011D Evo and mod it to have the all glass corner
Its all about the money with these guys, companies pay them shit loads to throw them a bone. Notice how they badly they rated the case temps for Hyte (even the Y60's) yet just 4 months ago they rated the Y60 as the best overall case of 2022. Also there was that little pop in there for Fractal Designs, yeah that was definitely pay to advertise. I only trust Toms anymore. GN used to be awesome but they sold out long ago. I still love them though and enjoy their reviews but I take what they say with a grain of salt.
I'm pretty sure GN are very transparent with their advertising, I dont see where there is any bias in this review other than pointing out the pro's and con's on this case and comparing it to other cases in its class.
@@HAL--ov4qu they did say in that best cases of 2022 vid that the Hyte Y60 won due to its unique design, and that the Torrent was still very competitive for that spot. Even if the Hyte won best overall, they still highlight some cons they found.
Steve I like to say Thanks for calling Linus about the hack.... True respect...
I bought this case because I needed a smaller width cast to fit on my desk and this was the only “fishbowl” style case that I enjoyed. Really would’ve wanted a h9 flow if I could fit it instead.
It's fine. I like mine. Run 6-7 fans in it. If you don't have fans laying around from previous builds, I could understand the trepidation.
I love the Y60. It's such a cool design. I honestly want a y60 that is the same shape but larger to fit a EATX and 140mm fan on the back. No interest in the H40 though. Without the cut corner, it's nothing special to me personally.
This came just in the nick of time. I was ordering the Y40 today. Thank you!
Looks like every case manufacturer is copying the fish tank design, it wont be long now until those glass panels go around the back too.
It's definitely "in." Lian Li gets credit for popularizing it like this. The Y60 did well to be unique. But the Y40 is kind of back to the basics.
i think the bottom cable shroud was made with pcie cable extensions in mind, that you probably will buy for the front side connectors to look good
Totally understand everything very well with what Steve and the rest of the team said. As someone who bought this for a "showcase" build and had a lot of extra fans laying around, getting around the out of the box airflow or lack thereof was something I had already understood. That being said, as a price to performance compared to pretty much any other case at that price point, yeah it's probably the worst. I just really liked the aesthetic and whenever I upgrade my GPU I was planning for either one that comes with an AIO or doing a custom loop in it possibly. Good review 👍
Fair
If you're buying it for a showcase build, then why not buy the Y60 instead and have a showcase that will really stand out? I understand not finding the thermal issues and other stuff problematic, that's fine. But why go for the far more generic looking case of the two if the whole point is showcase?
@@ShroudedWolf51 I wanted the extra GPU clearance from the side panel, since this one is four slots wide instead of 3. My card is experiencing normal temps, same as I had in my TD500 mesh
@@diomedes7971 I think the Lian Li does a better job but it is more expensive
I agree with you; they should either include enough fans to cover all fan slots, or include no fans and just let the customer buy their own. Personally, I would go with "no fans, I'll buy my own" as I tend to replace stock fans with better ones, anyways, but other people may want to simply have all needed fans included. And yes; get rid of the excessive branding. One or two somewhere on the case is plenty, spend the money into making the product better instead.
I would still go with "no fans" because you can get a 5 pack of Arctic fans that will do a good job for pretty cheap. Just because it's "provide your own fans" doesn't mean it has to be $30 per fan.
@@mjc0961thats true, but they could also just execute it better. Fractal provides fans in their cases and the stock configuration is good enough to not worry about fans at all. They are quiet and cool, all you need from a fan right (Atleast in 2 aircooled midrange builds ive done for me and my brother in meshify 2 and meshify 2 compact). Although your point still stands. It could be cheaper and you buy your own cheap fans, but with the cases I mentioned you atleast get a complete compentent product
I disagree, this case is, obviously, built for an AIO and a GPU in vertical orientation. The AIO will come with the 2 missing fans. You just install it and you have the best cooling configuration: 1) the CPU draws chill air from outside the case; 2) the GPU has a bit of extra chill air from the fan at the bottom. This is also why the bottom plate only has wholes till the midle: to assist channeling that air into the fans of the GPU when the GPU is installed in the vertical orientation. This seems like a very well thought out case for the specific group of people who want a showcase PC with vertical GPU mount. And this is the configuration GN didn't test at all.
I disagree as well. If they include 2 more fans, where do extra fans coming with the AIO go? Dumpster? Because there is no more space for them.
I have the Y40 with a 13900k and a Strix OC 4090.
I use a 360mm AIO for the CPU and replaced both fans with beQuiet Silent Wings 4 Pro to a total of 3x 140 and 4x 120mm (incl. AIO).
While gaming CPU and GPU are around 65°C, BUT this is only possible with an offset of -70mV for the CPU and 70% PowerLimit of the GPU with a noise level of 26db.
Nevertheless, I sure have not the possibility to compare it to other cases, but for me if works perfectly and I love the design.
Criticism that Hyte only adds 2 fans, I can agree 100%.
I think almost everyone will add their own - they should have leave them out and reduce the price by 15€...
Thank you, big fan of your channel and your work! I totally agreed and laughed when you pull out the bottom filter, from opposite sides, design failed. I also appreciated and used the bottom cable tunnel you pointed out to hide the extra cables. The two included 120mm fans are a waste for me. I use a 140mm for the bottom and RGB fans to dress this case up. This case is slightly shorter as I can only install two 120mm fans on top; since I installed 280mm AIO cable up. From your video, 360 AIO on-the-top look is even worst. With all that, still I feel that you are being too tough on the Y40 and missed some highlights. I really liked the top side & rear panels that are made of steel and nicely painted. This is the best looking “clear corner” case on the market. It is solid built with a removable front glass (by removing six screws) which helps a lot with the built. My cooling is PRETTY GOOD with two 140mm side intake fan (w/AIO), one 140mm bottom intake; one 120mm rear and two 120mm top exhaust fans. My 6800XT fan only spins in games. Nonetheless, Hyte could improve on its design; such as reduce the screws holding the front glass and improve bottom air / fan design instead of the current ugly plastic black box. With everything considered, I still think this is a top looking case, solid built and reasonably priced; especially considering fans are the cheapest components on my build list.
I bought the Y40 a month ago, but I have a custom loop so maybe the out of the box thermals are not a huge concern to me, I have a 360 on top and a 240 on the side.
Still shit case.
This channel is amazing. Thank you for the reviews you do.
Thankyou @GamersNexus for sounding the alarm the ltt channel breach ❤. You're all tech badasses on anyday. Bravo for being on the spot!
I'm shopping for cases, and I was considering the y40, because saving 50 bucks to get rid of the angled tempered glass panel seemed like a pretty good deal, as long as the case was quality otherwise. I have to express my gratitude to how honest GN is, because this just saved me a massive headache.
I have one and I run 6 fans inside it. Most of us have fans already. I don't get the bellyaching about adding fans. It runs honestly great.
Thanks for messaging Linus about the issue! GOOD JOB!
I don’t know if it’s the camera, the operator, or both but damn are those zooms on point. In frame, focus is spot on, looking awesome
Big ups from Linus Tech Tips!
Dude, I've been waiting for months to get this exact video. Finally got tired of waiting and went safe with a Corsair 4000d airflow. Super happy.
Thank you Steve for helping Linus.
So I was one of the folks that bought this case as soon as it was available because I just actually liked everything from the start and my previous tower just had to go to the big ol' PC Tower Farm in the sky.
I'm glad I had an AIO from my previous case. I have a Corsair H115i and didn't have issues with the tubes being ran from the bottom to the CPU, and also have an Asus Strix OC 3090 in the system too and I have to say yes 100% your own stuff is the way to go. My idles are great and when running stuff don't notice a drastic shift from the idles either, maybe 3c or 4c diff while gaming. Really enjoying it myself from the eldritch beast of a case I had before and has been a massive upgrade/improvement for me in a number of ways I appreciate.
Certainly the kind of case for someone in a similar situation that I was in - having all the bits and bobs from one case into another.
Cutting corners well also testing is something that many case makers forget.
And is odd that a case has custom foam and hidden branding when it's meant to be a cheaper product.
it doesn't cost anything more, the styrofoam had to be custom moulded for this case anyway.
hi steve, thanks for covering this case, since i bought it recently. thanks for the call out on fan arrangement - i changed my fans to use 1 rear exhaust, 2 side intake and my arctic liquid freezer II 360 on the roof (also exhaust), with no floor fan. i don't hit thermal cap any more on 7950x and stay about 82-85C on each CCD when stressing all cores. glad to see my case on this channel! too bad it won't be in the advertising loop. as you said, 'it looks nice' :-)
I have this case and personally I love the way it looks so much that I don't mind the rest. I don't do anything extremely intensive on it so thermals have never been a huge deal.
However I will say this about included case fans--from my perspective the rule should be "go big or go home". Either include a full set of high quality fans (not RGB necessarily, just solid performance and not an eyesore) or nothing at all. I expect that nearly everyone who buys the Hyte Y40 replaces the fans, like I did. So, knowing that, why do they include fans at all? It's the easiest cost saving measure in the world.
Just move them to the side, put your aio cooler up top, and it's sufficient.
@@cgwworldministries83 I don't doubt the fans move some amount of air but that's not my point. Why bother including cheap, noisy, visually unappealing fans when the vast majority of people are going to replace them anyway? Either include good fans or no fans.
@@aperson9847 why? It's not hurting anyone. Calm down Karen. It's not that serious of a problem. Go buy some Noctua fans and relax. I promise it's going to be ok.
@@cgwworldministries83 You're aware that things cost money right?
@@aperson9847 I am. It's always been this way though. With all the time bellyaching and bikeshedding you could have bought some fans with that time and effort. They give you 2 free fans to tide you over on your build until you can buy more later. It'll work for now until you can get more. $150 is steep for not including at least 4 fans but at the end of the day it's not really that big of a deal. There's multiple other reasons to not like this case but to fault it due to the fans, is like complaining that your brand new car didn't come with a full tank of gas.
Shout out to Steve for looking out for Linus' YT channel
YOU SIR ARE THE EPITOME OF THE HOMIE! RESPECT TO YOU SIR!
Coming from someone who has been seriously considering this case I have a few points I'd like to mention.
First of all, they include a Pcie 4.0 riser for the vertical GPU mount. This is a massive saving compared to buying your own brackets and cables to suit like other manufacturers. Sometimes upwards of $100 aud. (Lian Li/Corsair)
I am also considering this case because of its vertical GPU mount, this is unique in it's own right, very hard to find a nice case that can handle a 360 Radiator + Vertical Mount + overall nice to look at.
Plenty of things I agree with in this video, but overall this case actually does provide decent value.
My thoughts exactly!
Huh, a double-stacker water cooling radiator setup - just like CPU tower coolers - rad + fan + rad + fan ← i've never seen this idea implemented …i'm sure, it's feasible! It might require a little more space than the H-Y40, for all the plumbing - DUDE, i'd love to see this tested! (edit: fixed the plurals)
how are you gonna even mount those fans and rads together
@@boudewijnb good point - i haven't thought about that. I guess, one could linus it, with tweez*cough* zip ties. ;)
I appreciate you casing out the height of this Hyte case, just in case the case's height is relevant to the customer's use case.
have this case. love it. for general gaming, thermals are fine, no thermal throttling with my 7900xtx taichi which is running 430W. imo case looks very nice as a display piece, really like that there is no bezel between the glass pieces compared to other similar designed cases. i was initially looking at the y60, but i didn't want something so wide. so seeing this with a very similar look but a tad slimmer is nice
These are the specific design elements that had me purchase this as well in red. Going with two 140mm intake fans and a be quiet cooler.
Gamers Nexus' honesty is appreciated though.
i dont know if this comment is needed, but being fairly telling in your thumbnails, would never cause me to say "yeah, i guess i dont need to see this video". if you said in your thumbnail "no need to watch this vid, because this [product] is junk" i would still watch the video to see what you said.
another great video, ty guys for doing what you do!
I am surprised with how negative the overall was. I have always appreciated the standardized testing, but the reality is that nobody building in this class of case gives a rats backside about the included fans. You don't by a case that's got so much visibility without throwing in your own fans. I would of liked the case to be a couple bucks cheaper with no fans as the first thing I did when I got it is toss the fans. Same as I do with every case. I have a 280 AIO as intake with a 140 intake in the bottom. 3x 120's as exhaust on the top & no fan in the rear. I lack the testing equipment you have, but I can say definitively that this case is quiet & cool with a 5900x & a TUF 4080. One of the things I would love to see from your case reviews is the cases fully populated with the appropriate sized fans. Outside of the low end of cases it would paint a much more clear picture of the performance most of us can expect since even if its just the arctic bundle packs most folks will be populating most if not all fan locations.
It would also be a drawback for most enthusiasts if all fans were populated from the factory. The fans are one way that we now use to customize the aesthetics of a build. I know that of my 6 fans I have 3 different model fans all from the same manufacturer (NZXT in my case as I wanted the 140's on the side intake to have the backside RGB).
GN always testing stock thermal since the begining
I could feel the genuine regret from you that this case just isn’t it. It was the nicest let down you could do while still saying “No”. Thanks for the fair review!
They need to make H shaped case next.
Thats a cool sponsor, I would like seeing more like that :) (not that I have an issue with any of the other sponsors you guys run!)
I'm waiting for my torrent... It was VERY hard to get it at MSRP, here when it's not out of stock, it's sold 15-25% over. I got lucky
The Torrent remains an excellent case!
@@GamersNexus it seems like it.
I was looking for a case to fit a chunky Arctic liquid cooling II 420 and it seems perfect for it.
@@Chadok89 putting water in a Torrent literally nullifies its most important features. The 180mm fans and the airflow. Get a high-end dual tower air cooler instead, its more reliable, quieter and cheaper.
@@cszolee7979 it doesn't. The aio keeps the cpu cool while remaining silent and the bottom fans keeps a fresh airflow to the gpu.
If you find a air cooler that is more effective and more silent than the Liquid cooling 420, I'm all ears.
I currently have this case and have zero complaints. I wanted the Y60,but i needed the extra space between the glass and my rtx4080. The Y60 puts the card too close to the glass. The Y40 is perfect. I personally think Hyte has the best-looking cases on the market. And i feel this review is somewhat biased. Just because they didn't include extra fans for thermals. That's sorta like intel, not supplying a cpu cooler anymore. Most people building a computer like to add their own fans, etc. Hyte supplies the locations. You add ur own fans. Im currently running a Corsair top mounted water cooler with exhaust fans. Two Corsair 140 mm intake fans. One Corsair 120mm exhaust fan. And the stock Hyte 120mm fan at the bottom beside power supply. All running through the icue software. Set color to solid white. And my computer runs nice and cool. No thermal issues at all. And it looks great.
Steve gg on saving Linus' bacon yet again. Do you even sleep?
9:37 IMHO, those bottom-intakes, and the shroud-through-vents seem actually quite clever. It directs air flow towards the glass side panel, which ultimately feeds fresh air to the GPU. Although, i DO see a flaw - there should be some kind of baffle, in order to redirect & avoid recirculation of spent/hot air at the bottom/near the PCIe end of the GPU.
You are correct about the bottom vents. I can feel the hair being blown up in front of the GPU fans in mine if I take the side off. The re-circulation thing is valid, but what case doesn't have this as normally this air would be bouncing off the motherboard. And at the end of the GPU most new GPU's are flow though. I was worried about this initially blowing against the intake on the back of the case, but even in the review the temps were cooler with this vs side exhaust which would be the cleanest air flow.
Hey Steve, what is your sleep schedule? You should get 8 hours per day. Thanks for notifying Linus though!
I'm still hearing "Y4-D" every single time. Thanks, Steve
Thank you for letting Linus from LTT know he got hacked! As LTT viewer, I appreciate it :)
Nice detailed review. I found the design and quality of the Hyte Y60 far superior in many ways. I built both the Hyte Y60 with the RTX 3080 Ti FE and also the Y40 with the RTX 4090 FE and ended up changing the Y40 for another Y60 as I am disappointed with the quality and design of the Y40 and also because the RTX 4090 Founders Edition is exactly 3 slots wide and fits in the Y60 anyway. The only advantages of the Y40 over the Y60 are the 4 vertical slots for the oversized GPUs and the lower dust filters that are easier to remove for cleaning. Other than that, it has no grommets to hide cables and has less space for cable management with the bottom fan installed. The single fan location beneath the plastic floor of the case is a nightmare for cable management and PSU connections (no dedicated chamber) and this fan proved to be absolutely useless for improving GPU and case thermals because the floor is only partially open for airflow, compared to the Y60 which has an open floor made of metal with a dedicated chamber for dual 140mm or 120mm fans just below the GPU. Also, the mounting location on top of the Y40 does not allow for a 280mm radiator to be installed and it overhangs the motherboard a lot, even hiding the RAM sticks by over 2cm (TUF GAMING Z790-PLUS WIFI motherboard used) which does not look good for RGB RAM. Also, it is not possible to install a rear fan with a Corsair H150i 360mm radiator installed on top, unless you only use 2 screws to install the rear fan lower, or drill an additional hole to fix it with at least 3 screws. No such problems with the Y60.
Looking out for LTT! Steve Rocks!
I bought the Y60 for my first ever build and was kicking myself for not going with the Y40. I am now glad that I did get the Y60. Building out of the case does seem to be more frustrating given that bottom intake configuration interfering with cable management.
Experiment: Could you try punching real holes into the case and internals where they look like there are holes and reevaluate the thermals? It would be interesting to see what the implied ventilation would actually provide.
We need more of case reviews like ceres from thermaltake, phanteks g500a,g300a when it comes out keep up the good work 👍
NZXT H9 Flow would be my choice now. Also interested in which of the cases offers the most room for a vertically mounted GPU, as both HYTE cases aren't very good for example.
If the H9 ever comes in stock again lmao it's been over a month
The more cases I see reviewed, the more I love my Coolermaster NR200p. It only supports mitx, so I had to 3d print a bracket in order to use my old matx mb, if it wasn't for that I would recommend that case to any pc builder.
Steve you really did not have to go that far, to become UA-cams biggest Tech Channel and taking Linus down... 🤣
I get the review in stock form and with only 2 fans added. But when you also add the 3 top fans, it changes thermals dramatically as well. And most who build PCs will add a full set of fans. My Y40 has to 2x 140 side intake fans, 3x 120 top exhaust fans, 1x rear exhaust fan and 1x bottom intake fan. And I have zero temp issues regardless of stress test I run (I heard a lot about these running hot, so thoroughly tested mine)
Price point and lack of included fans for the price, I can understand the bad review though.
7:23 yo dawg I heard you liked radiators..
Wow that fractal north look sweet, very nice design.
I'm a disappointed man. I see '*disappoint*' in the title, I click.
With all the branding everywhere and price, it would have been nice if they’d focused some of the budget for that on, oh idk, making sure the design worked thermally.
The hype that companies like Hyte push behind products like this often ends up resulting in disappointment. I’m glad you guys called them out on the potential downfalls of over-prioritizing a “customer experience.” Fractal, Lian Li, and Noctua are great examples of companies that have a sense of reserved confidence in their marketing, with an emphasis on engineering.
Hyte is living up to their name in reaching the hyte of thermals 😂
Completely valid to test with an air cooler. As someone running a Ryzen 5 gen CPU I still use an air cooler and I do like for cases claiming to support them.
Tech Jesus Saves Again, Modern Day Hero saves Linus!!!!!.
Got Y40 because it fits precisely into my desk PC stand - height, lenght and width wise. Got the same 4070Ti Aero and 7900X with 360mm AIO, unvervolted both and temps are absolutely fine. CPU doest go over 70C, GPU over 60C. The SSD bracket needs to be reworked, there is no clearance for SATA power cables when SSD are screwed down. When SSD bracket is populated I couldnt fit my RGB hub anywhere at the back as there is no flat surface letf. Both included fans are complete garbage and waste of money. Also space for cable management is very limited when using bottom fan, 2,5" drives, cable extensions and RGB hub. Omitting rubber grummets is another fail as you can see cables behind the motherboard tray. Overall it is a good design that needs to be polished in future versions (all white version as well please?) and it would be a stellar case. I am really happy with it though as it fits perfectly into my desk and is an absolute looker!
Asked so many times, never got an answer: why aren't you reviewing any Jonsbo cases? They have many interesting and innovative designs that would be surely more interestng than the usual 3 frontal fans or lian li clone layouts...
We get like tens of thousands of comments a month and don't answer all of them. This is the first time I've even seen yours. The answer is simply that they haven't made anything that's caught our eye lately. We can check again, but it doesn't mean we'll review one necessarily. We've looked at them in the past because they supplied a lot of companies in the old days (e.g. Rosewill), but not lately.
I agree - I don't see how Jonsbo cases do not catch your eye, but crappy clone cases like the one being reviewed in this video do?
@@5h4f1 They reviewed this because the Y60 was so popular. Also, they visited Hyte on their Asia trip a couple months ago.
@@5h4f1 yea, the new VR4 and VR3 have fairly unique charateristics, same for the new D41 with his peculiar power supply position.
I'd love to see the thermals tested on those configs tho.
@@v0ldy54 I got 64-67°C on my Ryzen 5 5600x with a Lian Li Galahad 360 and 70-71°C on my Asus RTX 3060Ti KO OC. Not that great tbh, looks like tho
Man, I wish you made this weeks ago. lol. I already bought the case albeit I'm still happy with it. I have 2 120mm intake fans with the stock fan exhaust, AIO CPU with top exhaust, and the bottom stock fan as the intake. I do wish the GPU temps would be lower but this case has been an improvement from my previous case which is a current plus.
I would take MONTECH’s SKY TWO all day over this case. Much better thermal performance and higher configuration with similar appearance.
Agreed , SKY TWO is an amazing case for its price.
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate GN's no-nonsense video titles? Hopped in here just to leave a like onto the video. Shoutout to my favorite tech host, Steve!
This case is like a watered down beer.
How American.
Lol
Utah beer
I never heard Akamai used in a business but its great to hear that word outside of Hawaii. Kind of used as smart or clever, hope it catches on more lol
This video is extremely misleading... Who in their right mind would run their case with only the two stock fans that came with the case..? CPU temps were only 3c warmer than the Y60 once adding a proper fan setup and gpu temps even lower?
If you had any critical thinking skills then you would have listened when they explained why it was tested that way
@@tmbocelot Their reasoning is the company should provide more fans - 99% of people who buy cases that come with crappy stock fans simply swap them out for 3rd party fans anyways..? Hyte was able to make this case extremely affordable, even with things like the vert GPU mount, even running those graphs with 2 fans is stupid, OBVIOUSLY this case was not mean to be run with two stock fans ONLY lol . Not sure how you even found a year old comment but these guys are just nit-picking issues, the vast majority of people are going to load every possible space with 3rd party fans.
This review makes absolutely no sense.
While I do understand the need to use the same components from case to case, the case should not be air cooled. Condemning a liquid cooled focused case for poor thermals when only an air cooler is tested, is like saying a Toyota Corolla is a bad car, because it failed the off-road test. At 8:35, you specifically say the Y60 and Y40 are liquid cooling focused as well!! Yet no liquid cooled testing was done, just to even see the difference.
And then at 27:48, you proceed to say that if you want a $150 liquid cooling friendly case, then the Lancool is the way to go. This seems very hypocritical when zero information about the Y40's liquid cooling abilities were even discussed, except a weird section about radiator sizing. The Y40 fits a 240mm and 280mm side radiator just fine. As well as a top mount 360mm AIO, with no interference with RAM, the rear fan or any part of the system, I have tested all 3 and thermals are just fine with all configurations.
It seems like you went into this review, knowing that you were going to bash it, and I just don't understand.
Hello GN love watching your vids and you are my go to channel for sure. Thanks for your hard work!
I know its a bit unorthodox and Im not too sure if youd review it. But could you check out the Jonesbo D41 case? Is it too gimmicky? Or is it actually a functional case? The screen is a very unique feature I havent seen on any case before.
Also the PSU is located in the front of the case.
The Y60 case is sweet looking with that angled side and adding the lcd display onto it. Looks like they took a backwards step from the Y60 instead of improving on an already decent design.
Also of note just 4 months ago they rated the Hyte Y60 the best case of 2022! Now why are they showing its case temps to be shit compared to the big list of cases in this video? I smell something fishy.
I avoided the Y60 because GN said to avoid it for air cooled GPUs. So I picked up a Y40 as it had that fish tank look with no corner post. I'm fine with the thermals in it. Running AIO on top, 2x 140mm as intake on the side and a modest GPU 6750xt. The CPU hits and maintains 95c under torture (all cores boosting over 5ghz so it's not throttling, just aggressive boosting), but that's just zen4 being Zen4. I got the Y40 with full knowledge I'd be tossing the fans and doing it differently. I feel it's still a good case if you know what you're getting into and you really want the aesthetic.
Thermals have been good for me too, so far. I haven't done any torture tests. LOL. I just play my regular games. My AIO is on the side.
Thanks for having advertising standards!
I'm usually on GN's side. But, this time, I strongly disagree with GN. The extremely harsh criticism on the matter of the 2 additional fans is very unjustified. It's not about "buy two additional fans". It's about "use the 2 fans which will come with your AIO anyway".
Hyte is pretty clear in the marketing that this case is built for AIOs. They write the max height of the radiator just to make the life easy for all those 12 people who will use it with an air cooler. Why would they complicate things, on purpose, and loose a couple of potential clients when it costs them... nothing (an additional line in the manual)?
Considering GN's frequent remarks about sustainability, avoiding single-use plastic, and other environmental subjects. I would have expected an actual praise from their side for building a case which doesn't force you to throw away 2 perfectly good fans in the first 10 seconds after unboxing. The standardized test here is a very wrong tests. It smells like lazyness from GN. All the video is about testing the case with an air cooler. No liquid cooling tested at all. Followed by a conclusion at the end : "lancool 3 is a better choice for liquid cooling".
Actually bought a new case recently. I settled on Antec DF700 Flux. Its been 2-3 months now and I love this case. Doesnt matter how big a gpu gets itl always fit. Quite suprised uve never covered that case. Its an $85 case that can fit a 360 top or front. It also has a 2nd intake zone on the other side panel that an intake fan sitting under the gpu pulls air from the side panel. It even comes with a full RGB/fan hub. I dont think its gets much better value for money.
Great review and content as always! ... but I think the info on the advertising rejection was information that maybe should have stayed internal. The review made its point of the product not being good, I think it's unnecessary to share this with the general public. IMHO.
The chart @19:18 shows the Lian Li Lancool 216 at the top for cooling under load but I’d like to point out that while the $114.99 ARGB version (white) includes two front mounted 160mm ARGB fans and a non-RGB 140mm rear exhaust fan…Lian Li doesn’t offer any matching ARGB fans to replace the plain exhaust fan or any of the other locations that could use them.
The closest matching ring-type ARGB fans I could find was a $29.99 CoolerMaster MF140 Halo for the rear exhaust and a $61.68 3pk of MF120 Halo to replace the Corsair LL120’s in my AIO. I’m sick of the RGB failing on the LL120’s and CoolerMaster fan quality isn’t good IMO but I took another chance and I’m sure glad I did since they look great.
My Godlike E-ATX MB easily fit inside the 216 and the same could be said for the Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC (but my EVGA RTX 2080 TI XC Ultra provided all the FPS I really ever needed. The 4090 is a waste IMO.)
Anyway, Lian Li is missing out by not offering those optional matching ring-type ARGB fans, plus they could offer optional riser feet, or even wheels, to increase the bottom air intake. I use a modified file cabinet caddy.
So $114.99+29.99+61.68= $206.66 + $13.71 for the optional magnetic front filter = $220.37 (+ tax) for a decent positive pressure case but the Lian Li 1.5mm mesh hole size allows more dust to enter than say the Phanteks 1.0mm mesh hole size so that’s something one may want to keep in mind.
It's sad that $150 for a frickin case is "mid range"... We truly live in the worst timeline.
I must admit, I still went with this case because I have a new AIO I plan on using. I’m very very excited, even if this case doesn’t perform thermally, that’s okay to me, because I had a 216x and it’s just.. kinda big, kinda boxy, not what I want for my build. Fantastic case. Just not what I’ve grown to like.
I’m okay with sacrificing a few degrees for something I love looking at
Amazing job testing! Please compare to Montech SKY TWO. That case is the shiiiii for thermals. Please and Thank you.
Hope you guys revisit thermal paste testing soon. Both CPU and GPU - and maybe even laptops if you guys are feeling frisky. Some new players like SYY, Thermalright TFX are on the scene and making some waves. Also, look forward to critiquing thermal paste application.