ATC SENDS PLANES TOWARDS EACH OTHER | "Can you use your reverses?"

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  • @VASAviation
    @VASAviation  3 роки тому +1671

    Oops, someone messed up!

  • @Anonarchist
    @Anonarchist 3 роки тому +5214

    "theres absolutely no one behind you"
    says the guy who told you there'd be no one in front of you.

    • @naomiali1706
      @naomiali1706 3 роки тому +209

      And use of “absolutely” is him being not embarrassed, but pissed that this happened, so he’s using slight tone because he wants them to miraculously move and fix his problem.

    • @josesmith9179
      @josesmith9179 3 роки тому +24

      Lovely funny comment. 🤣👍

    • @alialiyevv
      @alialiyevv 3 роки тому +14

      Panik

    • @mlee6050
      @mlee6050 3 роки тому +22

      true but at least this ATC did better than others where planes crash on runway

    • @sittinonthegodamcornerdoindope
      @sittinonthegodamcornerdoindope 3 роки тому +2

      😹😹😹

  • @internetw4nk3r74
    @internetw4nk3r74 3 роки тому +2415

    Pilot: i need a tug
    ATC: i need a hug

  • @GemmaLB
    @GemmaLB 3 роки тому +3150

    Pilot says to the ATC 'I've got a number for you to copy'

  • @allanhendricks1597
    @allanhendricks1597 3 роки тому +3075

    Surprised with all the other ideas that ATC didn’t recommend all the passengers get out and push

    • @soupfork2105
      @soupfork2105 3 роки тому +409

      If it was RyanAir, they would've made them push to save time, then charged a "passenger interaction surcharge" and a "reboarding fee"

    • @Cissy2cute
      @Cissy2cute 3 роки тому +8

      Should have called this guy:
      ua-cam.com/video/ZUjLMV5M4dY/v-deo.html

    • @Strahan740i
      @Strahan740i 3 роки тому +35

      @@ericbosken3114 The article says it was technicians and employees, not passengers. Having passengers do it would be problematic as they'd have to bring out one of those stair modules - you can't just hop out the door on a jet like that, you'd likely break a leg or something falling that far to the pavement.

    • @ericbosken3114
      @ericbosken3114 3 роки тому +5

      @@Strahan740i the rumor was that they had used those roller stairs (most smaller airports here do not have jet bridges)

    • @Strahan740i
      @Strahan740i 3 роки тому +9

      @@ericbosken3114 Ehhh the statement from detik itself said it was employees, that and look at the pic - I doubt many passengers travel in safety vests ;)

  • @oldRighty1
    @oldRighty1 3 роки тому +2729

    This is Delta Tug 2's moment to shine.

    • @GC-qe8vc
      @GC-qe8vc 3 роки тому +242

      Rumor has it that just before retiring, Kennedy Steve cleared Delta Tug 2 to reposition all the way to Cincinnati!

    • @ArtemkaPannat
      @ArtemkaPannat 3 роки тому +41

      hahaha seriously that had me laugh, thank you

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 3 роки тому +6

      @@GC-qe8vc lmfao hahahaha

    • @briand.411
      @briand.411 3 роки тому +24

      That's rich, and Steve's been retired just long enough it sailed past a few

    • @cesarqueti
      @cesarqueti 3 роки тому +29

      I can hear Kennedy Steve talking to a coffee cup saying a pretty grabbed DELTA TUG TWO !

  • @NedAndre
    @NedAndre 3 роки тому +2155

    You could hear him die a little inside at 40 seconds

    • @Casi3D
      @Casi3D 3 роки тому +158

      It was at this moment he knew, he f'd up.

    • @BLACKMONGOOSE13
      @BLACKMONGOOSE13 3 роки тому +38

      Surely you can't be serious.....

    • @Notimp0rtant523
      @Notimp0rtant523 3 роки тому +25

      He really just said “I’m sorry, just standby”

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 3 роки тому +16

      He didn't die inside as much as those passengers having to wait around and possibly miss their connecting flights...

    • @NenadKralj
      @NenadKralj 3 роки тому +24

      I'm honestly genuinely in sorry for that flight controller 😅 but we got a clear standoff 😎 well done 😎

  • @alexroselle
    @alexroselle 3 роки тому +521

    Delta pilot: I can't taxi, there's a plane in my way
    Envoy pilot: I can't taxi either, there's a plane in my way too
    Southwest pilot: I'm ready to go anytime, I'll even take off from the taxiway if that would help

    • @LtRiot
      @LtRiot 2 роки тому +31

      $20 says SW taxied by the standoff at C172 rotation speed

    • @buckstarchaser2376
      @buckstarchaser2376 2 роки тому +4

      I see we are both in the same algorithm track.

    • @lobsters12111
      @lobsters12111 2 роки тому +14

      I love this. Used to watch planes a lot at Portland intl and it was always fun to see how fast the Southwest Airlines pilots would go on the ground

    • @imviciously
      @imviciously Рік тому

      hahaha lmao

    • @handlesarecringe957
      @handlesarecringe957 Рік тому +18

      "Ladies and gentlemen if you look to your right we have a bit of a showdown going on"

  • @cchilli6442
    @cchilli6442 3 роки тому +1567

    I can respect when ATC catches himself at 3:32 and clarifies when he realizes his choice of words could have been misinterpreted

    • @jimyeats
      @jimyeats 2 роки тому +19

      Haha yep.

    • @Nodnarb69
      @Nodnarb69 2 роки тому +203

      Even I at first thought he was being sassy. Funny how sometimes things come out differently than they’re intended to.

    • @Ninkira
      @Ninkira 2 роки тому +141

      he put his reverses on that real fast hahaha

    • @suzukirider9030
      @suzukirider9030 2 роки тому +127

      I think ATC was hoping one of them would just go ahead and use reverse. But both pilots were reluctant to do that.
      An An-124 pilot would've been like: "Well I can just taxi around them if you don't mind me messing up your lawn a bit".

    • @dave-yj9mc
      @dave-yj9mc 2 роки тому +4

      @@suzukirider9030 LOL!

  • @kosmamoczek
    @kosmamoczek 3 роки тому +1873

    Respect for the pilots for not risking a tight turn that could cause even more trouble and/or damage. At such an important position being able to say "no" firmly yet calmly is an essential skill.

    • @mateusbmedeiros
      @mateusbmedeiros 3 роки тому +192

      Thought the same thing. Even after the first "no", they then got back with "they're advising that there's plenty of room", and the pilot stood their ground. Some minutes later when the vehicle got there they confirmed the pilot's perception of no room for a right turn.

    • @MillionFoul
      @MillionFoul 3 роки тому +93

      @@mateusbmedeiros I always tell pilots I marshalled that if they feel uncomfortable and need a wing checked to stop and make me check it, it's way better to waste twenty seconds of my time than to take the nose off another airplane of get stuck in the dirt.

    • @k.pacificnw02134
      @k.pacificnw02134 3 роки тому +27

      Totally what I thought. Don't give in to peer pressure.

    • @janiselmeris5705
      @janiselmeris5705 3 роки тому +16

      Wasn't the idea to use the reverse thrust to go back and then turn right?

    • @nerysghemor5781
      @nerysghemor5781 3 роки тому +15

      @@mateusbmedeiros Like I said in another comment it’s a good thing because the tower’s perception was not exactly great that day!!! XD

  • @Hammm537
    @Hammm537 3 роки тому +777

    Everyone telling Envoy he had plenty of room to make the turn until finally the ops vehicle tells him he doesn’t have enough room, good on them for sticking up for themselves and not doing something they weren’t comfortable with

    • @cmotdibbler4454
      @cmotdibbler4454 3 роки тому +60

      The controller is all "I get could get a bus through that gap"
      Unfortunately the pilot had to get an aircraft through it.

    • @ishanagrawal753
      @ishanagrawal753 2 роки тому +10

      @@cmotdibbler4454 there's a difference between bus and airbus...

    • @FrozenHaxor
      @FrozenHaxor 2 роки тому +1

      @@ishanagrawal753 That wasn't an airbus either.

    • @tendyedits1272
      @tendyedits1272 2 роки тому +11

      He literally said there’s too much room to go backwards what in the world does that mean lol

    • @apastafarian5051
      @apastafarian5051 2 роки тому

      I can't like it's 420

  • @thomasvlaskampiii6850
    @thomasvlaskampiii6850 3 роки тому +993

    Perfect example of an honest mistake. All it cost was time, a bit of fuel, and some humble humiliation.
    No one got mad. No one yelled. Good way to handle the situation

    • @SuperMonkei
      @SuperMonkei 3 роки тому +21

      Humanity prevails.

    • @Trevor-gu8bb
      @Trevor-gu8bb 3 роки тому +53

      The pilots are getting paid by the hour so they're in no rush 😁

    • @thomasvlaskampiii6850
      @thomasvlaskampiii6850 3 роки тому +57

      @@Trevor-gu8bb There's no rush due to pay. But, I've seen several videos where something more trivial than this happens and either the pilot or atc goes ape. There's no need for it. If no one died, just deal with it and move on

    • @PrivateMarcus
      @PrivateMarcus 3 роки тому +12

      But it can still cost in missed connections and other penalties

    • @thomasvlaskampiii6850
      @thomasvlaskampiii6850 3 роки тому +23

      @@PrivateMarcus I'll take financial loss over loss of life or loss of cool any day

  • @willm1019
    @willm1019 3 роки тому +618

    “No more games of chicken with the planes today John” -his coworkers everyday for the rest of his career

    • @stanislavkostarnov2157
      @stanislavkostarnov2157 3 роки тому +5

      hopefully its not: "no more planes for you... its all chickens my boy!"

  • @1972challenger
    @1972challenger 3 роки тому +867

    The animation is similar to when you run into your ex girlfriend at the bar.

    • @alexanderhadjikrastev4023
      @alexanderhadjikrastev4023 3 роки тому +66

      And you need a friend to pull you out if the situation (the tug)

    • @RS-cw3oy
      @RS-cw3oy 3 роки тому +55

      Made more awkward by the guy on the roof, watching with binoculars, repeating "standby" into a megaphone

    • @JoshGratton
      @JoshGratton 3 роки тому +7

      lol.. best comment ever.

    • @patrickinottawa27
      @patrickinottawa27 3 роки тому +16

      I assume the ex was with the guy with the bigger cockpit.

    • @1972challenger
      @1972challenger 3 роки тому +9

      @@patrickinottawa27 when you find out your girl been talking to ATC when you're out of town...

  • @nerysghemor5781
    @nerysghemor5781 3 роки тому +615

    I love how nobody is trusting the tower to know if they have enough room, after this!!! XD

    • @NicolaW72
      @NicolaW72 3 роки тому +2

      Indeed. :-)

    • @janiselmeris5705
      @janiselmeris5705 3 роки тому +16

      I think the tower talked about the plane having room to go back, not to turn right from the position it was in.

    • @nerysghemor5781
      @nerysghemor5781 3 роки тому +3

      @@janiselmeris5705 Either way, no one was trusting the tower to know if they could do it!! 🤣 BTW, are you from Lithuania or Latvia?

    • @janiselmeris5705
      @janiselmeris5705 3 роки тому

      @@nerysghemor5781 Well, that's understandable, yes. :) Latvia.

    • @nerysghemor5781
      @nerysghemor5781 3 роки тому +2

      @@janiselmeris5705 Cool, looks like my “language sense” is working well! XD But seriously, do be careful, with all that crazy stuff happening across the border in Belarus!

  • @HWVISP89
    @HWVISP89 3 роки тому +756

    This controller had become the proud recipient of the famous Golden Towbar Award!

    • @othername1000
      @othername1000 3 роки тому +13

      wow, it's real

    • @sampathsris
      @sampathsris 3 роки тому +43

      To his head, if those pilots are nearby.

    • @Aeropunk08
      @Aeropunk08 3 роки тому +52

      Happens roughly once or twice a year at most major airports from talking to my ATC friends. Kind of like the pilots doing their pre-flight cabin introduction over ground radio.

  • @flyerdon3116
    @flyerdon3116 3 роки тому +153

    That really was a “taxiway tango”.

    • @roku_nine
      @roku_nine 3 роки тому +1

      Lol, underrated

    • @HHopebringer
      @HHopebringer 3 роки тому +1

      All they needed was an Air Canada flight having to go-around after trying to land on the taxiway, having set their radios to the wrong frequency so they couldn't acknowledge ATC 😂😂😂

  • @458DESTRO
    @458DESTRO 3 роки тому +374

    When the guy said “I don’t know what your waiting on” then immediately starts fumbling for a semblance of an apology because he realized how it sounded.
    That’s happened to me a couple times.

    • @wildgurgs3614
      @wildgurgs3614 3 роки тому +53

      When you say something aloud and immediately realize what you just said is probably the worst way to phrase it

    • @vanessaruiz4705
      @vanessaruiz4705 3 роки тому +6

      that was a bit WTF kind of moment.

    • @bubakawara
      @bubakawara 3 роки тому +24

      Much better than when you realize an hour later.

    • @MarcDufresneosorusrex
      @MarcDufresneosorusrex 2 роки тому +3

      how would it be mis-interpreted .. sorry .. and thanks🤥 okay i think another comment gave me the answer.. (waiting on the vehicle underneath him?)

    • @gavpowell1981
      @gavpowell1981 Рік тому +1

      @@MarcDufresneosorusrex Because it sounded like he was saying "Why aren't you doing anything?" when what he meant was "Is everything ok? You haven't started moving yet..."

  • @mamoruisamu1
    @mamoruisamu1 3 роки тому +250

    Too many great lines come to mind:
    “It takes two to Tango”
    “My tug is faster than your tug”

    • @Techy111
      @Techy111 3 роки тому +7

      Thank god you never said "tug me off" 😁

    • @Mr500sheetsofpaper
      @Mr500sheetsofpaper 3 роки тому +6

      I tend not to boast. about my fast tug

    • @burtonrider316
      @burtonrider316 3 роки тому

      @@Techy111 a wasted opportunity for some comedy on the radio :(

    • @cmotdibbler4454
      @cmotdibbler4454 3 роки тому +1

      Fortunately it wasn't Delta tug 2 as he is still waiting for clearance.

  • @jdscavella
    @jdscavella 3 роки тому +89

    "Got a stand off at T" 😂

  • @kylenielsen5341
    @kylenielsen5341 2 роки тому +24

    "I don't have room to turn."
    "Ops says you do."
    "Okay send ops out to eyeball it for us so we can make the turn."
    Ops guy on-site: "He doesn't have room to turn."

  • @alexstrazza4068
    @alexstrazza4068 3 роки тому +260

    *Both planes looking right at each other with nowhere else to go* "Well this is awkward!! We have reached an impasse" lol

    • @Belchmaster41
      @Belchmaster41 2 роки тому +1

      yep...or a stand-off between 2 different planes

  • @skyvenrazgriz8226
    @skyvenrazgriz8226 3 роки тому +343

    Aww, i was looking forward to the thrust reversers...
    big air craft goes: beep beep beepp

    • @Smiley1701
      @Smiley1701 3 роки тому +21

      C-17s do it, but they have a loadmaster watching out the back for them

    • @bahenbihen
      @bahenbihen 3 роки тому +49

      They realized company wouldn't be too happy with that little maneuver lol

    • @deltafox757
      @deltafox757 3 роки тому +1

      Yea probably not safe because FOD from the ground or compressor stall due to low speed

    • @Boss_Tanaka
      @Boss_Tanaka 3 роки тому

      😅😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

    • @gregarious119
      @gregarious119 3 роки тому +5

      Got to do that on a NWA DC9 once. Icy morning in AZO and the tug couldn't get traction on the ramp. Powered pushback and were good to go.

  • @WV-mx3dr
    @WV-mx3dr 3 роки тому +216

    Good job on the pilots for saying "NO" and standing their ground when the controller was like "Nah man you got this just try a 180"

    • @Belchmaster41
      @Belchmaster41 2 роки тому

      other risk would have been crash right into each other

    • @unr3alGaming
      @unr3alGaming Рік тому +2

      They certainly know the aircraft's they're rated for better than the controller does. Plus those things are expensive. You clip a wing, you might lose your job, and I'm sure they'd all like to stay employed.

  • @ursusss
    @ursusss 3 роки тому +456

    If you can get the atc discussion and interception with the Ryanair flight highjacked to Minsk, you truly are the best!

    • @mavoledo86
      @mavoledo86 3 роки тому +11

      came here to ask for that as well

    • @BLACKMONGOOSE13
      @BLACKMONGOOSE13 3 роки тому +15

      That would be good....

    • @e.l.norton
      @e.l.norton 3 роки тому +10

      Well, technically it's not a "hijacking". Not with a fighter escort. It needs a new term.

    • @LeifNelandDk
      @LeifNelandDk 3 роки тому +68

      @@e.l.norton kidnapping?

    • @dougaltolan3017
      @dougaltolan3017 3 роки тому +4

      @@LeifNelandDk Extreme "interpretation" of ICAO 3bis (b), for full details ask one Mr Assange!

  • @jordansean18
    @jordansean18 3 роки тому +141

    I thought the thumbnail said "Will need a hug..." lol

    • @Starwindfey
      @Starwindfey 3 роки тому +30

      ATC will after this one lol!

    • @SpearFisher85
      @SpearFisher85 3 роки тому +4

      So funny me too!

    • @DannyPimienta
      @DannyPimienta 3 роки тому +2

      Same lol

    • @GC-qe8vc
      @GC-qe8vc 3 роки тому +5

      Well, a tug gives a hug to an aircraft's nose wheel, is supportive and takes it into places it can't go on its own...

    • @cymbala6208
      @cymbala6208 3 роки тому +4

      That's what we're all thinking of first during this pandemic... 😅

  • @aisle9
    @aisle9 3 роки тому +280

    I'd love to be the Envoy pilot if he'd fired up the reversers, ingested FOD and wrecked an engine trying to bail ATC out.

    • @dsetHardin
      @dsetHardin 3 роки тому +50

      I too was wondering about that. I wonder if he actually hit the RT or if he thought about it and said "this is ATC's problem, not mine" and pretended to hit them.

    • @catguy00
      @catguy00 3 роки тому +25

      For those of us with little to no knowledge about aviation can you explain the potential damage that could be caused by reversing?

    • @JuanAdam12
      @JuanAdam12 3 роки тому +73

      @@catguy00 Thrust reverse redirects the normal thrust forward instead of rearward, but that's not the issue. The engine is still sucking in tons of air from in front of the plane, and everything on the ground in front of the plane, into the engine. Reverse thrust is used on landing on a "clean" runway to help slow the airplane (in addition to brakes and lift-spoiling devices), but using reverse thrust is discontinued at (typically) 60 knots--about the time the airplane is ready to exit the runway onto a taxiway. TL;DR--using enough reverse thrust to move a loaded airplane backwards on a taxiway is a needlessly dumb thing to do--especially when your need for doing so isn't your fault, or your reasons for doing so is to be "super helpful."

    • @JuanAdam12
      @JuanAdam12 3 роки тому +45

      Boy Scout Regional pilot trying to help out mainline Delta crew--who would never return the favor, let alone return a wave or a friendly nod in the terminal. Reverse on a taxiway: dumb, dumb, dumb offer to make.

    • @jacquesmit502
      @jacquesmit502 3 роки тому +57

      @@catguy00 to oversimplify Adams answer: The thrust of the engine is quite powerful and can kick up rocks and stuff. When using reversers those rocks and stuff are being pushed forward passed the engine intake where it can be sucked into the engine

  • @FallCreekDude14
    @FallCreekDude14 3 роки тому +158

    Working Ops at CVG last year I can tell you this controller is awesome and was always a great time to chat with but, even the best of us make mistakes.

    • @jayschafer1760
      @jayschafer1760 3 роки тому +40

      Good to hear that this guy has a good reputation. Hope this won't hurt his career too much; if this is the worst mistake he makes all year, he'll be doing well in my book.

    • @morganghetti
      @morganghetti 3 роки тому +37

      @@jayschafer1760 it won't hurt his career at all. Everyone makes mistakes. Any controller or pilot that says they don't is a liar.

    • @hxhdfjifzirstc894
      @hxhdfjifzirstc894 2 роки тому +2

      That's good, because this was some major cringe.

    • @abandonedaccount123
      @abandonedaccount123 2 роки тому +1

      did he keep his job?

    • @MrSuperawesome5000
      @MrSuperawesome5000 Рік тому +2

      @@jayschafer1760 Yeah not a major mistake. For sure they'll sit down and talk about a preventative action plan but the punitive action will probably come in the form or being the butt of some jokes for a bit.

  • @jonathankleinow2073
    @jonathankleinow2073 3 роки тому +136

    So the Delta tug thinks they can get out there faster than the Envoy tug, huh? Sounds like a good ol' fashioned tug-off to me! Wait...

    • @AEMoreira81
      @AEMoreira81 3 роки тому +5

      The Delta plane, depending on the model, might be able to get a tug underneath the plane, or around it without impacting the wings. It’s mainline.

    • @-Osiris-
      @-Osiris- 3 роки тому +16

      @@AEMoreira81 Congratulations, you've missed the joke

    • @darkobiwan
      @darkobiwan 3 роки тому +4

      PHRASING!

    • @RustyorBroken
      @RustyorBroken 2 роки тому +4

      I'd say it was a tug of war.

    • @ijustdocomments6777
      @ijustdocomments6777 2 роки тому +5

      Aaand it's at 69 likes, not gonna touch that.

  • @nolonger1410
    @nolonger1410 3 роки тому +88

    "possible controller deviation imma need you to copy a number down whenever you're ready"

  • @joc6870
    @joc6870 3 роки тому +135

    At 3:32 the ground controller had a bit of attitude and on his next sentence he stutters because he realized that he was a bit rude 😂

    • @thetalesofdaneandco
      @thetalesofdaneandco 3 роки тому +8

      100%

    • @rubenvillanueva8635
      @rubenvillanueva8635 3 роки тому +43

      I believe he just wants this "nightmare" to go away!, a highly embarrassing moment that will be the butt end joke, for many coffee room days to come!

    • @larryscott3982
      @larryscott3982 3 роки тому +11

      @@rubenvillanueva8635
      Well, probably for nights to come. He’s grave yard shift for a long time coming.

    • @TonboIV
      @TonboIV 3 роки тому +98

      From the way he was talking, I think he was genuinely asking what they were waiting for, but then realized it could sound sort of sarcastic and rude.

    • @Smiley1701
      @Smiley1701 3 роки тому +46

      @@TonboIV Yeah you could hear the panic in his next transmission as he realized how it sounded compared to what he meant

  • @dmans
    @dmans 3 роки тому +34

    Pilot: Got a standoff at Tango.
    Tower: Nope, clear to taxi, first one that chickens out loses ramp clearance.

    • @Belchmaster41
      @Belchmaster41 2 роки тому

      it's hard to taxi until a tug comes for the plane and get it out of the way

  • @slyfoxyandalifesaver
    @slyfoxyandalifesaver 3 роки тому +32

    Awwwwww, you can hear the controller dying inside. That poor soul.
    That is such an embarrassing occurrence!

  • @davidsp5936
    @davidsp5936 3 роки тому +83

    Kudos to everyone for reacting calmly and professionally.
    No name calling. No finger-pointing. No complaining.

  • @christophercollins868
    @christophercollins868 3 роки тому +20

    And once again, despite the screw up and back and forth, I am blown away by the calmness and proffesionalism of pilots and controllers. The rest of the working world could take a lot of good notes from the aviation industry.

    • @christophercollins868
      @christophercollins868 3 роки тому +2

      On a side note, could have saved a lot of time if they sent a wing walker WITH the tug.

  • @dldave1978
    @dldave1978 3 роки тому +12

    Once in a while, we all mess up. Fairly quick resolution. Shit happens. Life goes on.

    • @rosem7568
      @rosem7568 3 роки тому

      Nice! I like your perception of things. Your kinda remind me of James Asquith YT videos...check him out...I am certain you will enjoy his videos.

    • @abandonedaccount123
      @abandonedaccount123 2 роки тому

      @@rosem7568 stop self promoting your main channel lol

  • @arnoldsherrill6305
    @arnoldsherrill6305 3 роки тому +18

    In my dreams I'm hearing the Kennedy Steve version of this and rolling on the floor from laughter

    • @eboracum2012
      @eboracum2012 3 роки тому +1

      That would be such a gift to the world, wouldn't it?
      Worthy of innumerable replays🤗

  • @niklasmeyer9660
    @niklasmeyer9660 3 роки тому +4

    0:35 someone is in a mood 😂

  • @forceinfinity
    @forceinfinity 3 роки тому +9

    0:40 - It was at this moment the controller knew… he f--d up

  • @Aran2323
    @Aran2323 3 роки тому +63

    I'm surprised that the controller asked them about thrust reversers. As I understand it, many jets and airlines have policies/procedures that preclude them from using reversers below a certain speed (e.g. anything other than slowing down after landing) due to the risks of debris getting sucked into the engines.

    • @thevinceberry
      @thevinceberry 2 роки тому +3

      It use a lot of gas to reverse a plane from a standstill,

    • @kickedinthecalfbyacow7549
      @kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 2 роки тому +5

      If you ask the question then you find out if it’s an option or not.

    • @jacobb791
      @jacobb791 Рік тому

      The controller doesn't care the only people who get in trouble would be the pilots but yea They aren't allowed to use the reversers

    • @louf7178
      @louf7178 Рік тому

      I'm just watching videos, but I did see a vortex coming into an engine from the pavement once - debris looks very possible.

    • @One_Shot_Garage
      @One_Shot_Garage Рік тому

      I was going to mention that as well. Definitely not a great idea to use reverse thrust for slow speed maneuvering. It is especially an issue for wing mounted engines. I am assuming Envoy was a 175.

  • @jessicapope6977
    @jessicapope6977 3 роки тому +267

    Hey Victor, I was curious if you are going to do a video of what occurred with the Ryanair flight that was forced to land in Belarus? The ATC has got to be interesting and shocking!! Thank you!

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 3 роки тому +12

      Yes, and if there's any way to get internal phone conversations from Ryanair too... (Irish people sound funny anyway, but imagine the language they're using in those phone conversations when they heard what happened! I naturally mean when they heard that they had to waste all that extra fuel...)

    • @aronakbiyikian2577
      @aronakbiyikian2577 3 роки тому +22

      Seconding this. It's probably the most significant aviation incident right now, despite it being a political thing.

    • @jessicapope6977
      @jessicapope6977 3 роки тому +5

      @@aronakbiyikian2577 agree completely!!! Thank you for seconding this!

    • @aronakbiyikian2577
      @aronakbiyikian2577 3 роки тому +1

      @@jessicapope6977 ;) any time

    • @jason_35
      @jason_35 3 роки тому +1

      I'm also waiting for this

  • @Eastbirds_Lee
    @Eastbirds_Lee 3 роки тому +10

    This was the most entertaining non-movement video ive ever seen. Tarantino-style stand off dialogue.

  • @bg6b7bft
    @bg6b7bft 3 роки тому +35

    Planes are like dogs. You want them sniffing butts, not facing off.

    • @DLB19901107
      @DLB19901107 3 роки тому +8

      This...this is deep lol

    • @tollboothjason
      @tollboothjason 3 роки тому +4

      But planes need to socially distance while sniffing airplane butt

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 3 роки тому

      You got your dogs for different reasons than I did, buddy... Is there a certain breed for that?

  • @omma-llama7860
    @omma-llama7860 3 роки тому +24

    Kinda feel bad for that controller. He won't live that down for a while.

  • @Cissy2cute
    @Cissy2cute 3 роки тому +43

    Ten hours later......Seriously, controller knew he did wrong but still held it together to try and get this fixed. We're all human and make mistakes. I know that I could never be an ATC. I think ATC was judged to be the most stressful job.

    • @freddy4672
      @freddy4672 3 роки тому +2

      true that

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 3 роки тому +1

      "I think ATC was judged to be the most stressful job."
      Well, then there's the guy whose job it is to be Joe "Listen, fat" Biden's teleprompter operator.

    • @ClosestToTheSun
      @ClosestToTheSun 3 роки тому +3

      @@pistonburner6448 BDS

    • @MaximumEarthworks
      @MaximumEarthworks 3 роки тому

      @@ClosestToTheSun that doesn’t work here. You can’t just steal republicans saying, I mean that’s what you democrats do best, steal, but this won’t fly here. Anyways Biden is quite literally deranged.

    • @ClosestToTheSun
      @ClosestToTheSun 3 роки тому +6

      @@MaximumEarthworks ok dork

  • @user-cr4sc1ht9t
    @user-cr4sc1ht9t 3 роки тому +8

    "I can verify that from the tower" yeah most reassuring...

  • @hack1n8r
    @hack1n8r 3 роки тому +16

    Yikes!! Someone in Ground had a brain-fart... The controller must have felt horrible.... excellent professionalism by the pilots.

    • @rosem7568
      @rosem7568 3 роки тому

      My exact thoughts as well. If you found this video interesting, I bet you will enjoy James Asquith YT videos as I did. Check him out!

  • @Dan007UT
    @Dan007UT 3 роки тому +49

    Imagine they sent out a tug right when Delta asked lol

  • @calilyn1026
    @calilyn1026 3 роки тому +3

    Good thing the little plane's pilot was confident enough to tell the tower that he was not comfortable moving w/o people on the ground despite ATCs reassurance that everything is clear, when in reality the guy on the ground confirmed there is no space.

  • @BlackBird-nn2yc
    @BlackBird-nn2yc 3 роки тому +5

    Normally traffic control sounds so robot like, but the moment the guy messed up it felt so relatable

  • @lukaskaktus1005
    @lukaskaktus1005 3 роки тому +32

    This reminds me of the last AFP95 video lol

    • @yuuki-yuuki
      @yuuki-yuuki 3 роки тому

      Same

    • @alexejfrohlich5869
      @alexejfrohlich5869 3 роки тому +8

      damn, just imagie APF95 would've been a commenting ATC on this: "yeah... to all planes... stand-off at tango! reverse thrusters ready, but who ever is rolling backwards first is a loser! ... ok, now delta is just leaving the taxiway over the grass directly on the runway ... yeah, delta just collided with a hot air balloon making mach 2 five feet over ground ... we have a major accident, pilots in the air advised to land only on the last 3rd of the runway"

    • @freedomfalcon
      @freedomfalcon 3 роки тому +5

      I see we have men of culture in here.

  • @timothysmith7080
    @timothysmith7080 3 роки тому +34

    This could have been prevented if the engines had the ability to rotate 90 degrees and allow for a vertical take off.

  • @BLACKMONGOOSE13
    @BLACKMONGOOSE13 3 роки тому +9

    And that boys and girls, is how Little Johnny in the tower got the nickname "Wrong Way".

    • @RadioactiveSherbet
      @RadioactiveSherbet 3 роки тому

      Maybe "Head-On" would be a good nickname, too. Dunno.

    • @nicksharp7972
      @nicksharp7972 3 роки тому

      The guy who parks next to me on the ramp is ex USAF and has his call sign "Wrong Way" on his 172 hah.

  • @Tommyr44
    @Tommyr44 3 роки тому +34

    Lmao I work on the ramp here that would have been hilarious to see if I was there.

    • @sfpup87
      @sfpup87 3 роки тому

      DHL or city?

    • @Rockjael2
      @Rockjael2 3 роки тому +12

      Lmao no you're not, you cook meth for a living.

    • @Tommyr44
      @Tommyr44 3 роки тому +1

      @@sfpup87 I used to work at the main airport now I work at DHL.

    • @sfpup87
      @sfpup87 3 роки тому

      @@Tommyr44 nice bro if you’re working ramp tower you I talk

    • @alexrex20
      @alexrex20 3 роки тому

      @@Rockjael2 wrong. His physical body cooked meth but now we're talking to his spirit

  • @Mattribute
    @Mattribute 2 роки тому +4

    One night years ago at JFK my captain stopped the taxi, and I asked why. He said “If we go past this intersection then we’ll be trapped by that A340.” Then I realized that he was a real man of genius.

  • @Notimp0rtant523
    @Notimp0rtant523 3 роки тому +5

    Fun facts about Greater Cincinnati International Airport:
    1) It’s not even in Ohio, let alone Cincinnati. It’s initialism CVG comes from Covington, Kentucky, which is approximately five miles east-northeast of the airport. If named today, it’s abbreviation would like be based off of the city of Hebron - possibly HEB, although that sign is taken by a regional airport in Burma.
    2) It is run by the Kenton County Airport Board, even though the airport lies entirely with Boone County (does border Kenton County)
    3) CVG is DHL’s largest cargo hub globally.
    4) Canadian folk singer Stan Rogers died in a cabin fire incident which required his plane land at CVG. Though the majority of passengers died, some passengers and all crew survived.
    5) Every time I fly through CVG it takes no more than thirty minutes from the time I walk through the door until my butt is in my seat by my gate. Incredibly smooth operation.

  • @morganghetti
    @morganghetti 3 роки тому +26

    I'm shocked at how well those pilots took it. Everyone screws up at some point. Any controller or pilot claiming they never make mistakes isn't being honest.

  • @OfficialUSKRprogram
    @OfficialUSKRprogram 3 роки тому +73

    Imagine fucking up once and your mistake is immortalized here, lol
    Thank god nobody was recording my first controlled approach

  • @jasontuck-smith3896
    @jasontuck-smith3896 2 роки тому +3

    You can tell the controller felt bad and realised he messed up. I'm glad the pilots didn't give him a hard time.

  • @UdayKiranIITB
    @UdayKiranIITB 3 роки тому +6

    Envoy: you turn
    Delta: no you
    Gnd: aah fu*k

  • @robertgary3561
    @robertgary3561 3 роки тому +6

    Well that controller won’t make that mistake a second time.

  • @htown513
    @htown513 3 роки тому +3

    Glad to see my picture made it! Glad I was there to see this happen!

  • @zach6800
    @zach6800 2 роки тому +2

    Mistakes will always happen, the ATC has a difficult job. But man the feeling of inconveniencing several hundreds of people at once must suck hard.

  • @Panhead49EL
    @Panhead49EL 3 роки тому +30

    lol, CVG is a busy airport too. His buddies must've roasted him hard that night after work.

    • @user-ll8be9vt4u
      @user-ll8be9vt4u 3 роки тому

      And probably will be for a long time

    • @lisanadinebaker5179
      @lisanadinebaker5179 3 роки тому +1

      Unfortunately not nearly as busy as it once was, and it is a nice airport. There is an abandoned concourse with over 90 gates sitting in the middle of the field that used to hub all the Comair flights. We have picked up some business in recent years, and freight is doing well, but the Delta/NW merger took CVG from 3 concourses down to one not completely filled.

    • @user-ll8be9vt4u
      @user-ll8be9vt4u 3 роки тому

      @@lisanadinebaker5179 I remember flying in and out of there and taking the bus to that terminal.

    • @Panhead49EL
      @Panhead49EL 3 роки тому

      @@lisanadinebaker5179 Thank you. I was just going on all the big cargo I see going there on FlightRadar

    • @mikesparks3216
      @mikesparks3216 3 роки тому

      @@lisanadinebaker5179 that concourse and the two original terminals have all been torn down. Only the newest terminal and 2 concourses are left.

  • @tjsynkral
    @tjsynkral 3 роки тому +6

    Even making the suggestion of doing a power-back with no marshallers watching is pretty crazy. Pilots should've said "hell no" to that.

    • @statikcitten9
      @statikcitten9 3 роки тому +2

      Scrolling fast thru the comments and misread this as "...Doing a power-back with no marshmallows watching..." Gave myself a good laugh😆

    • @cmotdibbler4454
      @cmotdibbler4454 3 роки тому +1

      Not to mention the taxiway debris it is going to kick up and feed into the engines...

  • @EoRdE6
    @EoRdE6 3 роки тому +7

    I'd love to hear the pilot announcement to the passengers about this one...

  • @TheUKNutter
    @TheUKNutter 3 роки тому

    That is why as an ATC the way you speak is SUPER important.

  • @CapStar362
    @CapStar362 3 роки тому +4

    i love these peaceful co-op solutions.
    this is awesome

  • @AccountInactive
    @AccountInactive 2 роки тому +6

    God this feels like my trucking days. "You got plenty of room to get into there driver!" Armchair dispatchers telling you what you're able to do.

  • @whos1st
    @whos1st 3 роки тому +22

    Well - a mistake that was handled in a professional manor. No cursing or D1ck swinging just pilots who took care of business. I like it.

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 3 роки тому +2

      Plot twist: Envoy 4078's pilot snatched a parking spot from in front of the controller's nose that morning. This was payback.

  • @vincemck2002
    @vincemck2002 2 роки тому +1

    Great to see how both pilots co-operated so well and did not pour scorn on the controller for making a blunder.....well done

  • @LoowheezeBreeze
    @LoowheezeBreeze 2 роки тому +2

    Mistakes happen... this certainly wasn't a life-threatening error... nice to see everyone maintained a respectful demeanor

  • @wjatube
    @wjatube 3 роки тому +22

    Gnd should've commissioned the tug at the very first moment. Sending a wing-walker was a waste of time.

    • @RobertSzasz
      @RobertSzasz 3 роки тому +3

      I think they did. And were waiting to hear back while exploring other options.

    • @EdOeuna
      @EdOeuna 3 роки тому +2

      Or a wing walker in a tug.

  • @FoxDren
    @FoxDren 3 роки тому +10

    2:59
    correction: "any ways you perform" should be "any way, shape, or form"

    • @krashd
      @krashd 3 роки тому +1

      Indeed, but auto translators are not infallible and those phrases can be almost identical in some accents, particularly Irish.

  • @charlieinsingapore
    @charlieinsingapore 3 роки тому +2

    You missed the golden opportunity to insert a Spongebob "ten... minutes... laterrrr" slide in there!

  • @blubaughmr
    @blubaughmr 3 роки тому +6

    Back in the '90's, Northwest's (now part of Delta) standard pushback from the gate in Memphis was thrust reversers. I think I also saw them do that in Minneapolis as well, but I'm not sure.

    • @Belchmaster41
      @Belchmaster41 2 роки тому

      I think the policy is stop your pushback until the other plane departs

    • @TonyP9279
      @TonyP9279 Рік тому

      Delta used to do powered pushbacks from the gate when they were flying the MD88s. The plane has tail-mounted engines so they were higher off the ground and used eyelid-style reversers which seem to reverse almost all of the thrust from the engines. Even then, I think they only did this when they were parked at the end gates which have more space around them.

  • @-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.-
    @-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.- 3 роки тому +7

    We got a standoff at Tango.

    • @jayschafer1760
      @jayschafer1760 3 роки тому +1

      I was just waiting for one of the pilots to start playing the Jeopardy music or the Wild West shootout music over the radio. Thank goodness they were professional about it.

  • @gordonmcknight8877
    @gordonmcknight8877 3 роки тому +3

    Dang, as a Cincinnatian I'm quite disappointed I wasn't at the viewing area for this!

  • @friendlyfire3412
    @friendlyfire3412 3 роки тому +1

    0:28 OH! YOU'RE APPROACHING ME! INSTEAD OF RUNNING AWAY YOU'RE COMING RIGHT TO ME!
    Other plane : I cant headbutt you without coming closer.
    -You gonna ask whats is this. This is a something gamers called "Meme". It was on anime called "JoJo Blizzare advantures season 3." The first one plane reference guy was "Dio" and "other plane" guy is named "Jotaro" . This is a reference from that anime.

  • @bushtrash2286
    @bushtrash2286 2 роки тому +1

    Bloody hell ATC just send the tugs, more you spend time trying to get a magical answer, the more you screwing up the taxi ways and your self.

  • @univibe23
    @univibe23 3 роки тому +8

    Next time I have a bad day...I'll remember ground.

    • @jayschafer1760
      @jayschafer1760 3 роки тому

      When I have a bad day, I remind myself of the famous and very good surgeon who performed one surgery where he caused a 300% mortality rate (not a typo - source: www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/10/time-me-gentlemen-the-fastest-surgeon-of-the-19th-century/264065/ ).
      Puts my screwups into context for sure.

  • @SidestickPilot
    @SidestickPilot 2 роки тому +11

    I’m surprised they’re even approved to use reversers to push the aircraft back. Most companies including mine prohibit such use.

    • @KaitouKaiju
      @KaitouKaiju 2 роки тому +3

      Probably not, just an off the cuff suggestion

  • @emmanuel00667
    @emmanuel00667 3 роки тому +2

    Tower: My bad!
    Pilots: We got a number for you.

  • @CyberDashie
    @CyberDashie 3 роки тому +1

    Just noticed at 2:58 CVG GND says "any way shape or form" but the caption says "any ways you perform." First time noticing a slight error for you, which is impressive as often as you wind up posting! Much respect VASA. 🤘🏻

  • @Ryan-719
    @Ryan-719 3 роки тому +31

    Awwww cmon you can throw the reverses on!

    • @Ryan-719
      @Ryan-719 3 роки тому +32

      Wait, too much room to go backwards? What does that meanv

    • @MSRTA_Productions
      @MSRTA_Productions 3 роки тому +4

      @@Ryan-719 Good question.
      Also they would burn fuel if they set the reversers

    • @photoballa
      @photoballa 3 роки тому +25

      @@Ryan-719 he's saying it's too big of a distance for him to reverse thrust all the way to get behind the intersection again

    • @Ryan-719
      @Ryan-719 3 роки тому +1

      @@photoballa oh! Didn’t think that would be a thing I guess? If tower snd ramp control can see him. Oh well!

    • @photoballa
      @photoballa 3 роки тому +11

      as reverse thrust is highly inefficient, fuel costly and has so little power.

  • @gamolgallofin1012
    @gamolgallofin1012 3 роки тому +20

    "Well boys, it was a good run here at the tower. See you when I see you. Bye"

    • @rosem7568
      @rosem7568 3 роки тому +1

      Hahhahahaha your sense of humour reminds me of James Asquith YT videos...check them out!

  • @puertoricodrum
    @puertoricodrum 3 роки тому +2

    I can just hear the conversation on the ramp breakroom...
    "anybody available to move a plane on the taxiway that is somehow stuck" ...
    everybody "we are having lunch right now, but we can do it for Overtime"
    sups ... well just go then...

  • @jimandmandy
    @jimandmandy 3 роки тому +1

    LGB GND put me in a similar situation, nose to nose with a cargo 767. We didnt say anything and waited for GND to notice, about two long minutes. I was able to turn around since I was in a Cessna.

  • @FoolECK
    @FoolECK 3 роки тому +6

    0:57 the sigh and resignation in the ATC voice - priceless

  • @lepton_01
    @lepton_01 3 роки тому +7

    Someone got a call.

  • @FencerPTS
    @FencerPTS 3 роки тому +1

    Woops! The rare mistake! Glad everyone stayed calm and worked the problem.

  • @stevensnails1510
    @stevensnails1510 3 роки тому +2

    I used to have this atc game on my psp, and this has happened more than id like to admit

  • @EZurg
    @EZurg 3 роки тому +4

    S*** happens everybody handled it pretty well that's what we're supposed to do when we are adults.

  • @Ridejumpfly
    @Ridejumpfly 3 роки тому +4

    The golden tow bar goes to CVG tower!

  • @3phasetinkerer
    @3phasetinkerer Рік тому

    this is was awesome! :)

  • @nemonatussum7040
    @nemonatussum7040 3 роки тому

    This made my night!

  • @jobbiejew
    @jobbiejew 3 роки тому +11

    We all need a tug someday or other… ;)

  • @rickrickard2788
    @rickrickard2788 3 роки тому +7

    What was that old song.... oh yeah.. "Shake down, Break down, you're busted!". Everything caught on either video or audio these days- have to watch yourselves!

    • @drforjc
      @drforjc 3 роки тому +1

      Detroit's own "Rockin' Robert" Seger!

  • @JosephLedbetter
    @JosephLedbetter 3 роки тому +1

    This happened at CVG recently? For some reason it's a little more amusing knowing it's right across the river from me.

  • @mikeramsey9747
    @mikeramsey9747 2 роки тому +1

    I've seen this happen at KFWA. It had been raining a lot so to get a tug around the aircraft they had to run out and purchase sheets of plywood to lay down in the grass off the taxiway so the tug could drive around the aircraft, total time to undo the nose to nose situation 6 hours. The cargo company awarded the two controllers a golden towbar award which the rest of controllers to thoroughly harass the two offenders.