I consider myself an expert on Seige of Orison from having run it so many times, so here's some tips for new players and old players alike going into Seige of Orison: -The S71 is king in my opinion. The default x4 scope gives you some good range, and can even be switched out for a better scope if you want, it has good damage even at range, low recoil, and enough ammo in the magazine to be able to clear an elevator without reloading. Hip fire accuracy isn't half bad either, and you can find plenty of ammo in the ammo crates scattered around the platforms and locked containers. -If you want to focus on mobility and speed, don't wear leg armor. Most of the time your legs will be protected anyways, and having no leg armor significantly increases your speed on foot. -There is a gym on the roof of one building on every platform except Admin. This gym has a medical bed that can heal teir 3 injuries and clear your BDL. On Solanki, the gym is in the building at the very end of the platform, past the Brushwood shuttle. On each platform, there are maps that will tell you where it is. -On Solanki platform, if you go to the right at the very beginning, up onto the grass berm and stick to the right edge of the platform, you can actually bypass most of the enemies until you reach the first building. Similarly, if you're making a beeline straight to the Brushwood shuttle, you can take a hard right out of the first elevator and jump down to a lower bit where there are no enemies all the way to the shuttle. -This is new to Seige, but some of the containers will have laser mines. These containers will always have red loot crates with decent loot, unlike the normal red crates you'll find lying around in the open. It is possible to get the lieutenant helmets from these crates, and I've even gotten multiple of Mendo Ren's helmet from these crates. -On Brushwood, after taking the elevator to the lower floor you can stick to the right and skip the bridges. There's a long stretch of empty road there, where no enemies will spawn. The container you pass on this path is one with laser mines, so be careful. -On Hartmoore, I find that the LT spawns on the ground floor more than the rooftops. I've had several runs where the LT spawned around the golf course, that seems to be a hot spot for him. -When flying to Admin if you pick a small and nimble ship like a Pices, then you can shoot right by the detectable range for missiles, often without them even getting the chance to target lock you. Seriously, the lock range for missiles on a Pices is like, 4000-6000 meters, even smaller if you take the risk of disabling weapons and shields. If you can shoot right by the AA, try to land on the barge itself behind some containers. Your ship should be safe there if you park it in a good spot, as the barge doesn't really have AA, and the AA from the Admin platform won't have an angle on you. -On Admin, there is a secret data theft mission that can get you around a 100k auec bonus if you complete it. If you go to the far right building on the platform (should be the shortest building) and go to the roof, you will find the data room. Inside, there is a computer that the Nine Tails are stealing data from. If you cancel the data transfer in time you will be given a bonus, however in order to cancel the data transfer, the computer will ask for a 4 digit code. You must kill the LT on the Admin platform and use his code for this, otherwise the data transfer will keep chugging along. -The final boss, Mendo Ren will NOT SPAWN until all the LTs are dead. I have seen so many people rush to the barge straight from Solanki to try and steal the glory of getting him. It does not work, and often breaks the Seige for the whole server. The only reason anybody should rush to Admin is for the secret data mission. -Taking down the AA on each of the first three platforms is not necessary to complete the mission. Taking them down will increase the payout for everyone involved, however it is not manditory. Mendo Ren should still spawn as long as the LTs are taken care of. The only IFFI that HAS to be deactivated for the mission is the one on the barge. - At 27:35, that container is Mendo Ren's spawn closet. He always spawns there, every time, with no exceptions. If you can run there before he walks out of the container, then blasting him will be like fish in a barrel. The container directly to the right of his spawn will take his code and open up. This is the only reliable exit once you're in his spawn room. -Last but not least, you can actually take the ships from Seige of Orison and quantum travel out of the area once the mission is over. By default, the ships have the quantum drive "disabled", however if you go to the power tab on your MFDs, and scroll down to the quantum drive, you will be able to power it on manually and "re-enable" the quantum drive on that ship. I've only taken a Pices to Seraphim station with this knowledge, but theoretically you could take an A2 from Hartmoore platform and just keep it for the day. Known bugs from my experience: -Sometimes the AA on platforms such as Admin (but the other three as well) will be "online" but won't shoot at you. This is entirely random in my experience, the only way to know for sure is to hop in a ship and test it. -Sometimes the LT on a platform just won't spawn. No workaround. -Sometimes an LT that has already been neutralized will have the "Neutralize" marker reappear on their body. This does not affect the gameplay of the mission. -Sometimes the LT will spawn in a wall or the floor. On rare occasions, an explosive/splash damage weapon will be able to damage the LT, but most of the time there is no workaround. -Sometimes the shuttles from Orison to Solanki will stack up, trapping people inside and never properly docking at the shuttle stops. No workaround. -Sometimes the data transfer computer just won't accept the Admin LT code. No workaround. -Sometimes Mendo Ren's code will not be accepted by containers on the barge. No workaround. -Sometimes npcs will be able to detect you through walls or from distances they shouldn't be able to. You can mitigate some of this by crouching and using silencers on your weapons. -Sometimes a person will be given a "Nine Tails Sympathizer" marker without reason. This should only happen if they shoot a friendly and get a crimestat or intentionally blow up a ship, however it has sometimes appeared over people who have done no wrong. -Sometimes the laser mines in containers will not show the lasers, but will still blow up if you trip them. You can shoot the mines to ensure they activate/are already activated.
Great episode Kate. And if you didn’t intend for this to be a Seige of Orison tutorial, I learned a lot. I have have attempted running this a few times, but I run out of play time to complete this so far.
That was great! Its good to see the AI reacting better and like you said, hopefully with server meshing we should see the AI come more alive and responsive. Good stuff all around :)
There are medical beds on the platforms but you kinda need a third party map to know where they are unless you got great memory, I think the map signs might say the building has a gym which are the ones with a medical bed.
I didn't have any luck with that this time. The med bed I found only gave me an option to "open" it. Had a buddy knock me out and place me in it but then I was just stuck. (And didn't heal)
I attempted about 15 runs. The 1st went well with about 10 of us running it. As a relatively new player it's the most fun ive had in the game so far! The rest had shuttle bugs or ai boss spawn bugs. A player managed to glitch himself into a wall where a lieutenant was stuck and was able to kill him which made my total 2 success runs. It was alot of fun when it's ran with a large group of people.
Thanks Katie! I did a couple of runs, went okay, but I heard a bit of moaning from other players later about broken shuttles? I enjoyed it though. Hope all is well in the real world for you and Will. 👍
thank you John :) yeah things are ok we just have some stuff in February and March that takes up a lot of time - come April though things will get back to a regular schedule, and thank you for watching too! :)
Another great episode. I can never seem to time the SoO right, so it's nice to see what completion looks like considering you've got about a 1/100 chance of being the person that sees it to the end and gets to the final boss.
It's been a good while since i jumped into SC but im very happy to see this running as it is. Still needs improvement ofc but this is so much better than when i last played!
We did a run last Tuesday. It was a fresh server, though the SFPS had dropped to something like 8. The AI was damn lethal! We were also at a disadvantage since the raid started at night. Impossible to see where you were being shot from. Fun experience, even still!
Every time I see Kate with 3 rounds left in the mag or 30% health running towards the next engagement I hear a little voice screaming "RELOAAAAAAAD!!!!!" xD
Siege of Orison is still bugged. It is the luck of the draw meaning, if the servers are nice I heard the mission is a lot of fun. I have tried it twice and the boss would not spawn Admin platform and other issues getting shot from across the map etc. Then I heard people attempting to finish it (5hr run). Some else told me they completed it in 3 hrs. So it appears to be a mixed review more people stating not playable. The mission appears to have been rushed out by CIG for whatever reason.
Amazing presentation as always. I unfortunately somehow ended up in klesher a few times over the event. So I didn't get to do as much as I wanted. But SOO is a lot of fun. Annoying bug though with the weapons.
Yeah, I noticed the AI being a little more lively this time around. Still had the issue with the Lt. not spawning in, but otherwise the event's pretty good - those lights with the SMGs are headshot machines, though - CIG might need to reel that in a bit. And my love of Gemini weapons really wishes that they'd fix the F55 to be more accurate (which, if memory servers, is another reason to have rotating barrels like that). Instead, I go with the Demaco with a silencer. Great recap of the event!
if these updates keep rolling in as fast as they've been coming since CitCon 2023 i'd imagine by this years CitCon the game will be so different and better it will be unrecognizable from itself from one year earlier.
I like the updates to SoO it's still pretty buggy though, a lot of it seems to boil down to stuff not resetting properly between runs, like shuttles can be active from the start if they were active prior run, and destroyed AA turrets don't respawn allowing people to just complete the mission mostly shooting 9T from the air etc. It is a bit annoying also 9T seem to spot you even if you're trying to be sneaky from long range and hit you from long range with ease.
The missing AA turrets are a bug, we had it during PTU also and it never got fixed, basically if you destroy turrets during one run, the subsequent runs on the same server the turrets don't respawn.
You almost have to do these with a group, the penalty for getting incapped and then being kicked back to Orison General, re-equipping and then hoping the shuttles still work is severe. If you then have to make your way through a number of platforms on foot with NPCs respawning left right and center, that doesn't add to the experience either. I can't wait for server meshing so we can play on 30fps servers constantly and get sniped from 200+ yards away by an NPC with an smg with iron sights, from behind some bushes. Non-responsive NPCs are no fun, but getting sniped from the other side of the platform time after time isn't either.
I played siege of Orison this last weekend. We kept coming under fire from enemy we couldn't see. You could see where the shots were coming from but not the person shooting at us. Made it really hard to take the enemy down. It was intense.
Med guns should launch a med pen from distance instead of space magic beam. The multitool one can use the standard pens, 1 to 2 chambers. The dedicated should use the green general purpose med magic, but "config" it and still launch it and needing reload. Will potentially fix heal train exploit that is possible now with the larger health pools (where desync does not ruin everything).
like taser pins launch out but its flexy tube that administer medicine but at a slower rate compared to being next to person where its considerd your pressing the gun against person so closer you are to the target faster healing applies
The first day are two are best for this event. AI is better for the most part. Unfortunately the event was bugged the majority of the time for me. I tried about 15 and only 3 completed (2 on first day). Shuttle to event being the biggest problem.
Me who has been using an Arclight pistol like it's a Socom pistol from Metal Gear Solid and this game is a stealth shooter: "what do you mean good now?! It always has been. 🤨 Isn't it standard issue?"
We did SoO and had no platform guns as well. Really hope that's a bug. Given the bunker guns will shoot your landed ship at 7k+ away the sec you drive under the 1.5k range I am thinking bug. For now its take out the guns or land behind something if doing bunkers.
I joined as small party from my org to do Siege on a Friday night. It went well until the very end. Main baddie never spawned, which is apparently a thing. So we failed.
Take your time Kate, we Love all your Videos. Life is life, you do your best and you always give us the best SC experience on UA-cam by a zillion miles.
Only ran it once so far, was on a 15 fps server and it worked well, only issue came up when getting to the admin platform everybody died so we had to run all the way back
That first landing had me worried!
Skillz
The 2nd run with the huge group was soo much fun.
oh for sure :) i have that to edit as well :)
I loved siege this time around, i showed my buddy the mission and got him hooked on the game as a whole as a result.
I consider myself an expert on Seige of Orison from having run it so many times, so here's some tips for new players and old players alike going into Seige of Orison:
-The S71 is king in my opinion. The default x4 scope gives you some good range, and can even be switched out for a better scope if you want, it has good damage even at range, low recoil, and enough ammo in the magazine to be able to clear an elevator without reloading. Hip fire accuracy isn't half bad either, and you can find plenty of ammo in the ammo crates scattered around the platforms and locked containers.
-If you want to focus on mobility and speed, don't wear leg armor. Most of the time your legs will be protected anyways, and having no leg armor significantly increases your speed on foot.
-There is a gym on the roof of one building on every platform except Admin. This gym has a medical bed that can heal teir 3 injuries and clear your BDL. On Solanki, the gym is in the building at the very end of the platform, past the Brushwood shuttle. On each platform, there are maps that will tell you where it is.
-On Solanki platform, if you go to the right at the very beginning, up onto the grass berm and stick to the right edge of the platform, you can actually bypass most of the enemies until you reach the first building. Similarly, if you're making a beeline straight to the Brushwood shuttle, you can take a hard right out of the first elevator and jump down to a lower bit where there are no enemies all the way to the shuttle.
-This is new to Seige, but some of the containers will have laser mines. These containers will always have red loot crates with decent loot, unlike the normal red crates you'll find lying around in the open. It is possible to get the lieutenant helmets from these crates, and I've even gotten multiple of Mendo Ren's helmet from these crates.
-On Brushwood, after taking the elevator to the lower floor you can stick to the right and skip the bridges. There's a long stretch of empty road there, where no enemies will spawn. The container you pass on this path is one with laser mines, so be careful.
-On Hartmoore, I find that the LT spawns on the ground floor more than the rooftops. I've had several runs where the LT spawned around the golf course, that seems to be a hot spot for him.
-When flying to Admin if you pick a small and nimble ship like a Pices, then you can shoot right by the detectable range for missiles, often without them even getting the chance to target lock you. Seriously, the lock range for missiles on a Pices is like, 4000-6000 meters, even smaller if you take the risk of disabling weapons and shields. If you can shoot right by the AA, try to land on the barge itself behind some containers. Your ship should be safe there if you park it in a good spot, as the barge doesn't really have AA, and the AA from the Admin platform won't have an angle on you.
-On Admin, there is a secret data theft mission that can get you around a 100k auec bonus if you complete it. If you go to the far right building on the platform (should be the shortest building) and go to the roof, you will find the data room. Inside, there is a computer that the Nine Tails are stealing data from. If you cancel the data transfer in time you will be given a bonus, however in order to cancel the data transfer, the computer will ask for a 4 digit code. You must kill the LT on the Admin platform and use his code for this, otherwise the data transfer will keep chugging along.
-The final boss, Mendo Ren will NOT SPAWN until all the LTs are dead. I have seen so many people rush to the barge straight from Solanki to try and steal the glory of getting him. It does not work, and often breaks the Seige for the whole server. The only reason anybody should rush to Admin is for the secret data mission.
-Taking down the AA on each of the first three platforms is not necessary to complete the mission. Taking them down will increase the payout for everyone involved, however it is not manditory. Mendo Ren should still spawn as long as the LTs are taken care of. The only IFFI that HAS to be deactivated for the mission is the one on the barge.
- At 27:35, that container is Mendo Ren's spawn closet. He always spawns there, every time, with no exceptions. If you can run there before he walks out of the container, then blasting him will be like fish in a barrel. The container directly to the right of his spawn will take his code and open up. This is the only reliable exit once you're in his spawn room.
-Last but not least, you can actually take the ships from Seige of Orison and quantum travel out of the area once the mission is over. By default, the ships have the quantum drive "disabled", however if you go to the power tab on your MFDs, and scroll down to the quantum drive, you will be able to power it on manually and "re-enable" the quantum drive on that ship. I've only taken a Pices to Seraphim station with this knowledge, but theoretically you could take an A2 from Hartmoore platform and just keep it for the day.
Known bugs from my experience:
-Sometimes the AA on platforms such as Admin (but the other three as well) will be "online" but won't shoot at you. This is entirely random in my experience, the only way to know for sure is to hop in a ship and test it.
-Sometimes the LT on a platform just won't spawn. No workaround.
-Sometimes an LT that has already been neutralized will have the "Neutralize" marker reappear on their body. This does not affect the gameplay of the mission.
-Sometimes the LT will spawn in a wall or the floor. On rare occasions, an explosive/splash damage weapon will be able to damage the LT, but most of the time there is no workaround.
-Sometimes the shuttles from Orison to Solanki will stack up, trapping people inside and never properly docking at the shuttle stops. No workaround.
-Sometimes the data transfer computer just won't accept the Admin LT code. No workaround.
-Sometimes Mendo Ren's code will not be accepted by containers on the barge. No workaround.
-Sometimes npcs will be able to detect you through walls or from distances they shouldn't be able to. You can mitigate some of this by crouching and using silencers on your weapons.
-Sometimes a person will be given a "Nine Tails Sympathizer" marker without reason. This should only happen if they shoot a friendly and get a crimestat or intentionally blow up a ship, however it has sometimes appeared over people who have done no wrong.
-Sometimes the laser mines in containers will not show the lasers, but will still blow up if you trip them. You can shoot the mines to ensure they activate/are already activated.
As morning came....your tier 1 chest injury became a tier 3....the magic of editing...great content as usual, keep em coming
haha i knew someone would spot that :D yes there was a lot that was cut :D
Still love the vids and a T1 will end your run fs @@Citizen_Kate
Been loving this channel since coming back to the game after 8 years. ☺
Great episode Kate. And if you didn’t intend for this to be a Seige of Orison tutorial, I learned a lot. I have have attempted running this a few times, but I run out of play time to complete this so far.
At the stairs on the admin platform, I was waiting for a Katie thrown grenade, cause those always work out so well. LOL
That was great! Its good to see the AI reacting better and like you said, hopefully with server meshing we should see the AI come more alive and responsive. Good stuff all around :)
There are medical beds on the platforms but you kinda need a third party map to know where they are unless you got great memory, I think the map signs might say the building has a gym which are the ones with a medical bed.
I didn't have any luck with that this time. The med bed I found only gave me an option to "open" it. Had a buddy knock me out and place me in it but then I was just stuck. (And didn't heal)
This was a great time! Yarrek reporting for duty
Omg the arclight obsession I remember this
That was a really fun pick-up game! Didn't expect it to go that well with a crew that hadn't practiced together before.
I attempted about 15 runs. The 1st went well with about 10 of us running it. As a relatively new player it's the most fun ive had in the game so far! The rest had shuttle bugs or ai boss spawn bugs. A player managed to glitch himself into a wall where a lieutenant was stuck and was able to kill him which made my total 2 success runs. It was alot of fun when it's ran with a large group of people.
Arclight has always been a little beast. I never leave home without one.
Katie videos are so educational! Thank you!
Thank You for making this video, as a solo player I have no idea where to go or what to do, so ill be using this as a reference, thanks again!
Thanks Katie! I did a couple of runs, went okay, but I heard a bit of moaning from other players later about broken shuttles? I enjoyed it though. Hope all is well in the real world for you and Will. 👍
thank you John :) yeah things are ok we just have some stuff in February and March that takes up a lot of time - come April though things will get back to a regular schedule, and thank you for watching too! :)
0:57 before watching the rest of the video i got to say WOW!!! a little wobbly but a very nice landing!!
Another great episode. I can never seem to time the SoO right, so it's nice to see what completion looks like considering you've got about a 1/100 chance of being the person that sees it to the end and gets to the final boss.
It's been a good while since i jumped into SC but im very happy to see this running as it is. Still needs improvement ofc but this is so much better than when i last played!
Great action. I can't imagine how VR would play this if it was an option.
Will be interesting to see this with server meshing. Never got to see it actually complete but running around was fun lol.
We did a run last Tuesday. It was a fresh server, though the SFPS had dropped to something like 8.
The AI was damn lethal! We were also at a disadvantage since the raid started at night. Impossible to see where you were being shot from. Fun experience, even still!
Every time I see Kate with 3 rounds left in the mag or 30% health running towards the next engagement I hear a little voice screaming "RELOAAAAAAAD!!!!!" xD
Siege of Orison is still bugged. It is the luck of the draw meaning, if the servers are nice I heard the mission is a lot of fun. I have tried it twice and the boss would not spawn Admin platform and other issues getting shot from across the map etc. Then I heard people attempting to finish it (5hr run). Some else told me they completed it in 3 hrs. So it appears to be a mixed review more people stating not playable. The mission appears to have been rushed out by CIG for whatever reason.
Amazing presentation as always. I unfortunately somehow ended up in klesher a few times over the event. So I didn't get to do as much as I wanted. But SOO is a lot of fun. Annoying bug though with the weapons.
Yeah, I noticed the AI being a little more lively this time around. Still had the issue with the Lt. not spawning in, but otherwise the event's pretty good - those lights with the SMGs are headshot machines, though - CIG might need to reel that in a bit. And my love of Gemini weapons really wishes that they'd fix the F55 to be more accurate (which, if memory servers, is another reason to have rotating barrels like that). Instead, I go with the Demaco with a silencer. Great recap of the event!
if these updates keep rolling in as fast as they've been coming since CitCon 2023 i'd imagine by this years CitCon the game will be so different and better it will be unrecognizable from itself from one year earlier.
I like the updates to SoO it's still pretty buggy though, a lot of it seems to boil down to stuff not resetting properly between runs, like shuttles can be active from the start if they were active prior run, and destroyed AA turrets don't respawn allowing people to just complete the mission mostly shooting 9T from the air etc. It is a bit annoying also 9T seem to spot you even if you're trying to be sneaky from long range and hit you from long range with ease.
The missing AA turrets are a bug, we had it during PTU also and it never got fixed, basically if you destroy turrets during one run, the subsequent runs on the same server the turrets don't respawn.
my team did the event it was fun but half way threw we had all so many injuries i was barely able to walk to the hospital lol
You almost have to do these with a group, the penalty for getting incapped and then being kicked back to Orison General, re-equipping and then hoping the shuttles still work is severe. If you then have to make your way through a number of platforms on foot with NPCs respawning left right and center, that doesn't add to the experience either. I can't wait for server meshing so we can play on 30fps servers constantly and get sniped from 200+ yards away by an NPC with an smg with iron sights, from behind some bushes. Non-responsive NPCs are no fun, but getting sniped from the other side of the platform time after time isn't either.
I played siege of Orison this last weekend. We kept coming under fire from enemy we couldn't see. You could see where the shots were coming from but not the person shooting at us. Made it really hard to take the enemy down. It was intense.
the low wide green boxes have ammo and guns, the red wide boxes have food and water etc
Med guns should launch a med pen from distance instead of space magic beam. The multitool one can use the standard pens, 1 to 2 chambers. The dedicated should use the green general purpose med magic, but "config" it and still launch it and needing reload. Will potentially fix heal train exploit that is possible now with the larger health pools (where desync does not ruin everything).
like taser pins launch out but its flexy tube that administer medicine but at a slower rate compared to being next to person where its considerd your pressing the gun against person so closer you are to the target faster healing applies
Reminds me of the burst pistol in Perfect Dark on Nintendo 64.
The first day are two are best for this event. AI is better for the most part. Unfortunately the event was bugged the majority of the time for me. I tried about 15 and only 3 completed (2 on first day). Shuttle to event being the biggest problem.
Me who has been using an Arclight pistol like it's a Socom pistol from Metal Gear Solid and this game is a stealth shooter: "what do you mean good now?! It always has been. 🤨 Isn't it standard issue?"
and with 3.23 changes it will be even much better...
Siege NPCs were quite responsive even with server fps at 2-5
We did SoO and had no platform guns as well. Really hope that's a bug. Given the bunker guns will shoot your landed ship at 7k+ away the sec you drive under the 1.5k range I am thinking bug. For now its take out the guns or land behind something if doing bunkers.
only today days ago I found out that the Arclight has a burst fire mode.
11:55 that laugh XD i love it
I joined as small party from my org to do Siege on a Friday night. It went well until the very end. Main baddie never spawned, which is apparently a thing. So we failed.
I have only had 1 run out of 6 where I could actually complete it.
Take your time Kate, we Love all your Videos. Life is life, you do your best and you always give us the best SC experience on UA-cam by a zillion miles.
There is no WAY i'm logging in now that I know everything 3.23 will come with. Good vid tho
That landing was ace. Do you use HOTAS?
More people completed this time around from asking my friends, so its almost there
Only ran it once so far, was on a 15 fps server and it worked well, only issue came up when getting to the admin platform everybody died so we had to run all the way back
Cool, nice job! I didn't see you getting paid for NPC kills was your CTA on? (Call to Arms) or maybe you dont need the $$ CHEERS!!
I got invited to do it yesterday but I was intimidated so I kept doing my space trucker simulator
was bugged to hell for me, shuttle never turned up
Need a compass of some kind for call outs. Is there one there?
I've gotten the last lt on the exact same spot on the bridge, wonder if that's a fixed spawn location and not random like the rest.
It's random, but the docking port tunnel is a common spawn for him.
I tried to do it a few times but the shuttle to bring me there wouldn't even spawn.
I have yet to have this even work. So many bugs its unplayable.
10 out of 10 times I tried to run it, I got sent to prison randomly. And no, no warnings to leave the area or anything ever!
You got lucky, all the times I've run it, the server has either crashed or the lieutenants never spawned :(
I did this mission countless times and it only fully worked 1 time. very annoying if I am honest as I was really looking forward to the event !
Discord invite link is t working :(
The event is buged like shit!
Gg
FPS AI still looks incredibly bad
I've done SoO at 25+ server fps and it's not fun !!! You die a lot !
I know their use to be a med bay on both of the 1st 2 platforms.