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Good on you for checking out this series. I remember watching it when it first was aired. It provides a fundamental understanding of how the British Empire was created - essentially, it was only because of the building of the navy and creation of national debt that allowed it to happen
Where a fleet is hold up in harbour it has little chance to develop it's skills and practice When it's at sea it can develop its sailing skills & use live firing to develop gun skills
Gene Roddenberry explicitly based Star Trek on the Horatio Hornblower series of books by CS Forester. He gave them as a set to Patrick Stewart and told him to play Picard like Hornblower. Well worth a read if you want some more books on the Royal Navy
Nice to see that the area of the North-East (where I live) played a huge part in this story. It's not hard to imagine that (perhaps) some of my ancestors worked on those nails or in the supply of the materials required. I'm very happy to see you again Sarah. You have been missed. I'm already looking forward to seeing what subject(s) you bring to our attention in the future!
Just reassuring you that even if you have life going on out there, you still have people watching your videos. Hope that your regular life is all you want it to be.
I recommend looking into Rye it's a chocolate box town with lot of history it is one of the sink ports. Queen Elizabeth 1 stayed at the local hotel which is still going to this day. The mermaid. Virginia in USA is named after Queen Elizabeth I
You were surprised when Dan referred to a "hospital" when standing in the Painted Hall at Greenwich but that is because the meaning of the word has changed through the centuries. The hospital that was created was for old and infirm Royal Navy sailors, but they weren't necessarily sick people. This is similar to the Chelsea pensioners, who are ex army, at the Chelsea Royal Hospital. Back then a hospital was somewhere where care would be provided, usually to travelers and both hospital and hospitality come from the Latin root 'hospes' meaning stranger (and so a guest). The site became the Royal Naval College up until 1998 and the Painted Hall was where the officer cadets would take meals. To anyone visiting London it is really worth a trip out to Greenwich as you can see the the Royal Observatory, the Greenwich Meridian, the National Maritime Museum, the old Naval College and the Cutty Sark (an old tea clipper) all in the same trip.
The first recognised assembly line in the world was the rope works at Chatham Dockyard such was the demand from the Navy. It's now part of a Naval Heritage Museum but is still producing commercial rope products. Still to this day, the Ropery is the longest brick building in Europe. Workers use bikes to get from end to end. It was reckoned that before the population boom of the Victorian age 10% of the population were employed either directly by the Navy or indirectly in support of the Navy. It was this manpower issue that lead to us making use of alliances to provide soldiers as we could only man either a big Navy or Army.
The Wars of the Roses was a long dynastic conflict between two "Houses" or branches of the royal line over who should be king. The English Civil War was between Parliament and the King, first as an attempt to address royal abuses of power and eventually to overthrow the monarchy, so it straddles the line between rebellion and revolution with a sizable dose of religious war as well. So yes, two civil wars about two centuries apart, but very different in their characters.
You should react to Old Britannia's "Why Germany Had to Start the War" - it provides some useful insight on why Germany and Austria felt the need to fight WW1, from a perspective that you're probably not very familiar with :)
Fun fact: Gibraltar has actually been under English influence longer than Great Britain has existed He mentioned the the capture of Gibraltar in 1704, the Act of Union between England and Scotland in 1707 and the Treaty of Utrecht in 1713. English troops began occupying Gibraltar in 1704 during the Spanish War of Succession, while Great Britain wouldn't exist for another nine years
@@JulioLeonFandinho Care to explain how? The Treaty says in writing that Gibraltar is to be British permanently. This isn't a lease like with Hong Kong, it's permanent
@@oliversherman2414 The Treaty stated that the English had control over a certain amount of space, they ignored it and occupied whatever they wanted. This is the main issue, that land is not english according to the treaty
Even Nelson suffered seasickness for a day or two if had been in port or ashore for any length of time. Rye is one of the Cinque Ports, the five Norman fortified ports along the SE Channel Coast of Kent and East Sussex. Each having a Norman Castle. Cinque pronounced as French - Sanque although many English say sink incorrectly.
You should react to the Battle of Plassey from Kings and Generals, it's one of the most significant events in history, marking the British conquest of India.
Hello SoGal and Roger. There are videos out there that play up the reasons that the English were able to "think outside the box". Some are considered controversial these days in some quarters. I previously saw a comment suggesting you watch David Starkey. He is a critic of the last two British governments. Another such might be Thomas Sowell, a critic of the current US government. The common law in England is what each identify. The fear of the loss of the primacy of English common law to European bureaucracy was a theme in UK leaving the EU, though I just mention this as an observation, seeing the way the Admiralty needed to strip away bureaucracy to reform. Not surprisingly "Reform" is the name of the UK party pushing this view.
@@SoGal_YT It can get a bit political watching Sowell. I do not tend to express opinions on anything that does, but I do watch all sorts of stuff he has done. I used to make the excuse that I would leave politics to my university pal, Sir Alok Sharma, but he has retired as an MP recently at the last election.
The Wars of the Roses were probably the first English Civil War, but the Civil War normally refers to the Charles I and Cromwell conflict a few hundred yeas later. The American War of Independence was again over a hundred years after that. Not sure there is much connection as there were several generations of people between these. Grandparents could have influenced rebellion though!
It just amazes me that we have developed systems to replace all these industrial processes in just a hundred years. Our engineering/technical genius has expanded so fast in the last century, that it astounds me how we did it. When I look back at the 20th century, it went from nothing, through cars, planes, jets, nuclear bombs, vaccines, vinyl records, CDs, Walkmans, Bluetooth, WiFi....etc Are we using our brains more?
I think that one thing just leads to another, but it just needs a good starting point first. The invention of the steam engine slowly started everything. After that people were improving it, and slowly started to make more inventions. Both World Wars also accelerated this process.......
My comments keep disappearing 🤔 try again. Great to see you back❤ Love the patriotic British history. Can you look at ‘I vow to thee my country’ by Royal Marines Band?
The British carrier that was lent to the US was HMS Victorious. In US service, its was "renamed" USS Robin. British crew in US uniform (As the transfer was a secret. The crew had not been issued British tropical uniforms, before leaving.). Should you wish to investigate more.
@@SoGal_YT funny you should say that, was going to recommend the film Master and Commander, The Far Side of the World. Set entirely on a Royal Navy ship during the Napoleonic Wars, it's considered one the most accurate portrayals of its kind (they even bought a working replica ship). Dan Snow, does a UA-cam video commenting on the historically correct parts of life at sea too.
I would say that until the English Civil War in the 1600s we were no different from any other European nation with the King or Queen as the supreme autocrat, though we had a tradition of being a bit bolshy with the very slow, over the centuries, rise in the importance of Common Law. After the civil war parliament finally started to become more important than the Royals. No King could now rule without the consent of parliament. Most of Europe, especially the French and Spanish, still had autocrats as rulers so they did not have the freedom that their British competitors had and I think this made the difference. Our aristocrats, whilst still very powerful and disdaining towards the common man had to operate within certain limits, which meant a rising entrepreneurial, wealthy and innovative middle class who could and did set up businesses, invest in different ventures and also get their children educated.
American here. I cannot understand how 'those people' say that our 'Founding Fathers' wanted the 'Church' to have an influence on our Government. The parents of the founding fathers came to America for a reason. During their lives Britain was going through their Civil Wars. (Not the War of the Roses). Different Christian 'sects' fighting between each other on how to properly worship the same God. Those wars were probably the very reason the parents of or even the Founding Father himself fled England to come here. They were all Christians killing each other because they did not agree with each other on how to be Christian. With that kind of backstory you know they would want to keep the Church as far away from the Government as possible.
It’s a lot more complex than that, but I think the main reason separation of church and state exists is because of the Church of England’s role in governance, which did lead to the things you mentioned.
@@SoGal_YT I'd argue the seperation of church and state exists largely due to the long history of the state hijacking the church's influence for its own ends (vastly more common than the reverse) and to protect freedom of worship, rather than to minimise the effect of the church on the state. Though obviously they'd really rather not have the catholic church, or the church of England, or really any other religious hierarchy that ultimately answered to the government of a Different Country being overly capable of influencing the government (... which is what most uprisings against Catholic monarchs in England were about. Not actually about the Theology, but about the preception that there was a high likelyhood (realistic or not) of the religion being used as a means by which the French or Spanish might essentially puppet the English crown (both of those nations having a long history of basically hijacking the Catholic church to their own ends), a state of affairs deemed generally undesirable. Of course, then you get the Puritins who didn't so much flee religious oppression as they fled the unwillingness of various protestant nations at the time to be as oppressive of others as they would like. I would fully believe that the American founding fathers expected Christianity to have significant influence on the American government. And probably, for the most part, saw that as a good thing. An organized Church Hierarchy, though? almost certainly not.
@@laurencefraserOh yeah, the founders are very explicit in many of their writings regarding God/Christianity, even if they weren’t religious themselves. Christianity is very much tied into many of our institutions, and it serves as a basis for our society. Less so today as many are abandoning religion and the population turning more diverse.
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@@GmanHUA-camIt’s a great free resource!
Remember England is not the British , they are a quarter of the Brits.
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The cats of deepest Prenton are interested too....@@SoGal_YT
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Thank you for coming back xxx
Good on you for checking out this series. I remember watching it when it first was aired. It provides a fundamental understanding of how the British Empire was created - essentially, it was only because of the building of the navy and creation of national debt that allowed it to happen
It feels like a long time since we did this as a livestream. I remember it being a good one though 👍
It's great to see you back on UA-cam Sarah! Those were very enjoyable streams on Patreon.
Where a fleet is hold up in harbour it has little chance to develop it's skills and practice
When it's at sea it can develop its sailing skills & use live firing to develop gun skills
I guess you have to do to learn.
Thanks for this SoGal ... Dan Snow makes great documentaries ... Looking forward to parts 3 & 4 when you get time
Soon!
@@SoGal_YT Great 😃
Nice to see you Back always enjoy your video.
Recommend ‘the two Ronnies four candles’ and ‘my blackberry doesn’t work’ 😂😂
Been waiting for a new drop 😎
The amounts of money in those days were a huge amount, even £50 was probably a years wage for some.
Gene Roddenberry explicitly based Star Trek on the Horatio Hornblower series of books by CS Forester. He gave them as a set to Patrick Stewart and told him to play Picard like Hornblower. Well worth a read if you want some more books on the Royal Navy
Patrick Stewart was not in the "Star Trek" series. He was in that silly spinoff with Whoopie Goldberg.
@@penultimateh766How dare you 😂
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Rye is near Hastings, so probably a town that feared more "French" invasion. It is about 60 miles east of where I live.
Nice to see that the area of the North-East (where I live) played a huge part in this story. It's not hard to imagine that (perhaps) some of my ancestors worked on those nails or in the supply of the materials required.
I'm very happy to see you again Sarah. You have been missed. I'm already looking forward to seeing what subject(s) you bring to our attention in the future!
@@steven54511 where abouts up here in the north east do you live? I'm in county Durham
@@BobbieRockyBuster1415 just outside Gateshead - quite near to the Metrocentre.
@@steven54511 great stuff, good result yesterday (if you're a magpies fan) anyway stay happy, safe and healthy Steven ✌️
Just reassuring you that even if you have life going on out there, you still have people watching your videos. Hope that your regular life is all you want it to be.
I recommend looking into Rye it's a chocolate box town with lot of history it is one of the sink ports. Queen Elizabeth 1 stayed at the local hotel which is still going to this day. The mermaid. Virginia in USA is named after Queen Elizabeth I
"The War of Jenkin's Ear," is one of those stories which would never stand up in fiction, but is absolutely true.
When that boom swings, you duck!
You were surprised when Dan referred to a "hospital" when standing in the Painted Hall at Greenwich but that is because the meaning of the word has changed through the centuries. The hospital that was created was for old and infirm Royal Navy sailors, but they weren't necessarily sick people. This is similar to the Chelsea pensioners, who are ex army, at the Chelsea Royal Hospital. Back then a hospital was somewhere where care would be provided, usually to travelers and both hospital and hospitality come from the Latin root 'hospes' meaning stranger (and so a guest).
The site became the Royal Naval College up until 1998 and the Painted Hall was where the officer cadets would take meals.
To anyone visiting London it is really worth a trip out to Greenwich as you can see the the Royal Observatory, the Greenwich Meridian, the National Maritime Museum, the old Naval College and the Cutty Sark (an old tea clipper) all in the same trip.
Sounds like a great spot to check out!
The first recognised assembly line in the world was the rope works at Chatham Dockyard such was the demand from the Navy. It's now part of a Naval Heritage Museum but is still producing commercial rope products. Still to this day, the Ropery is the longest brick building in Europe. Workers use bikes to get from end to end.
It was reckoned that before the population boom of the Victorian age 10% of the population were employed either directly by the Navy or indirectly in support of the Navy. It was this manpower issue that lead to us making use of alliances to provide soldiers as we could only man either a big Navy or Army.
Makes sense, thanks.
Aye Aye Captain....nice to see you back....the maritime metropolis of Merseyside has missed you....
The War of the Roses were a civil war but several hundred years in time from The English Civil War.
A couple of hundred years before is closer to the mark rather than several hundred
The Wars of the Roses was a long dynastic conflict between two "Houses" or branches of the royal line over who should be king. The English Civil War was between Parliament and the King, first as an attempt to address royal abuses of power and eventually to overthrow the monarchy, so it straddles the line between rebellion and revolution with a sizable dose of religious war as well.
So yes, two civil wars about two centuries apart, but very different in their characters.
The real life Game of Thrones
You should react to Old Britannia's "Why Germany Had to Start the War" - it provides some useful insight on why Germany and Austria felt the need to fight WW1, from a perspective that you're probably not very familiar with :)
you never let go of your coffee mug, do you. LOL
It’s warm and cozy.
Fun fact: Gibraltar has actually been under English influence longer than Great Britain has existed
He mentioned the the capture of Gibraltar in 1704, the Act of Union between England and Scotland in 1707 and the Treaty of Utrecht in 1713. English troops began occupying Gibraltar in 1704 during the Spanish War of Succession, while Great Britain wouldn't exist for another nine years
Interesting.
@@SoGal_YT Indeed it is
Fun fact, the English broke the Utrecht Treaty several times and continues breaking it
@@JulioLeonFandinho Care to explain how? The Treaty says in writing that Gibraltar is to be British permanently. This isn't a lease like with Hong Kong, it's permanent
@@oliversherman2414 The Treaty stated that the English had control over a certain amount of space, they ignored it and occupied whatever they wanted.
This is the main issue, that land is not english according to the treaty
It was known in my history lessons as "The War of Jenkins Ear".
Even Nelson suffered seasickness for a day or two if had been in port or ashore for any length of time. Rye is one of the Cinque Ports, the five Norman fortified ports along the SE Channel Coast of Kent and East Sussex. Each having a Norman Castle. Cinque pronounced as French - Sanque although many English say sink incorrectly.
I don’t think I could handle the seasickness part 🫤
You should react to the Battle of Plassey from Kings and Generals, it's one of the most significant events in history, marking the British conquest of India.
Some words that I associate with the Royal Navy - History, Tradition, Honour, Glory, Victory!!!
Sounds about right.
Hello SoGal and Roger. There are videos out there that play up the reasons that the English were able to "think outside the box". Some are considered controversial these days in some quarters. I previously saw a comment suggesting you watch David Starkey. He is a critic of the last two British governments. Another such might be Thomas Sowell, a critic of the current US government.
The common law in England is what each identify. The fear of the loss of the primacy of English common law to European bureaucracy was a theme in UK leaving the EU, though I just mention this as an observation, seeing the way the Admiralty needed to strip away bureaucracy to reform. Not surprisingly "Reform" is the name of the UK party pushing this view.
I’ve seen some of Sowell’s work and I’m a fan.
@@SoGal_YT It can get a bit political watching Sowell. I do not tend to express opinions on anything that does, but I do watch all sorts of stuff he has done. I used to make the excuse that I would leave politics to my university pal, Sir Alok Sharma, but he has retired as an MP recently at the last election.
The Wars of the Roses were probably the first English Civil War, but the Civil War normally refers to the Charles I and Cromwell conflict a few hundred yeas later. The American War of Independence was again over a hundred years after that. Not sure there is much connection as there were several generations of people between these. Grandparents could have influenced rebellion though!
I think The Anarchy counts as a civil war, and that was a good couple of hundred years before The Wars of the Roses.
The original Game of Thrones
Yet if you squeeze sugar cane it taste quite nice as a drink.
It just amazes me that we have developed systems to replace all these industrial processes in just a hundred years. Our engineering/technical genius has expanded so fast in the last century, that it astounds me how we did it. When I look back at the 20th century, it went from nothing, through cars, planes, jets, nuclear bombs, vaccines, vinyl records, CDs, Walkmans, Bluetooth, WiFi....etc
Are we using our brains more?
I think that one thing just leads to another, but it just needs a good starting point first. The invention of the steam engine slowly started everything. After that people were improving it, and slowly started to make more inventions. Both World Wars also accelerated this process.......
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Great to see you back❤
Love the patriotic British history.
Can you look at ‘I vow to thee my country’ by Royal Marines Band?
The British carrier that was lent to the US was HMS Victorious. In US service, its was "renamed" USS Robin. British crew in US uniform (As the transfer was a secret. The crew had not been issued British tropical uniforms, before leaving.). Should you wish to investigate more.
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Hey!
@@SoGal_YT You should do movie/tv show reactions. They are quite popular these days.
@@brocklytodd5317Been thinking about it. I’ve done some movies Patreon, but haven’t edited them for UA-cam.
@@SoGal_YT I see. c:
@@SoGal_YT funny you should say that, was going to recommend the film Master and Commander, The Far Side of the World. Set entirely on a Royal Navy ship during the Napoleonic Wars, it's considered one the most accurate portrayals of its kind (they even bought a working replica ship). Dan Snow, does a UA-cam video commenting on the historically correct parts of life at sea too.
The start of our problem 'the military industrial complex.
I would say that until the English Civil War in the 1600s we were no different from any other European nation with the King or Queen as the supreme autocrat, though we had a tradition of being a bit bolshy with the very slow, over the centuries, rise in the importance of Common Law. After the civil war parliament finally started to become more important than the Royals. No King could now rule without the consent of parliament. Most of Europe, especially the French and Spanish, still had autocrats as rulers so they did not have the freedom that their British competitors had and I think this made the difference. Our aristocrats, whilst still very powerful and disdaining towards the common man had to operate within certain limits, which meant a rising entrepreneurial, wealthy and innovative middle class who could and did set up businesses, invest in different ventures and also get their children educated.
Part one would be a very handy begging, ???
Mr Weevil what are you made of....'Protein'...OK nom nom Mr Weevil
You are such a nice lady, hope you are well, from australia
go on the French 😂
Fun fact: Sogal's home country of USA was a colony of England until 1776.
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Strange 🤔
Always a delight when my 'other' California Girl posts on UA-cam :) The other one is my missus of course :chuckles:
I like watching you getting ready for bed 🙂 ... hope that's ok for you
American here. I cannot understand how 'those people' say that our 'Founding Fathers' wanted the 'Church' to have an influence on our Government.
The parents of the founding fathers came to America for a reason. During their lives Britain was going through their Civil Wars. (Not the War of the Roses). Different Christian 'sects' fighting between each other on how to properly worship the same God. Those wars were probably the very reason the parents of or even the Founding Father himself fled England to come here.
They were all Christians killing each other because they did not agree with each other on how to be Christian.
With that kind of backstory you know they would want to keep the Church as far away from the Government as possible.
It’s a lot more complex than that, but I think the main reason separation of church and state exists is because of the Church of England’s role in governance, which did lead to the things you mentioned.
@@SoGal_YT I'd argue the seperation of church and state exists largely due to the long history of the state hijacking the church's influence for its own ends (vastly more common than the reverse) and to protect freedom of worship, rather than to minimise the effect of the church on the state. Though obviously they'd really rather not have the catholic church, or the church of England, or really any other religious hierarchy that ultimately answered to the government of a Different Country being overly capable of influencing the government (... which is what most uprisings against Catholic monarchs in England were about. Not actually about the Theology, but about the preception that there was a high likelyhood (realistic or not) of the religion being used as a means by which the French or Spanish might essentially puppet the English crown (both of those nations having a long history of basically hijacking the Catholic church to their own ends), a state of affairs deemed generally undesirable.
Of course, then you get the Puritins who didn't so much flee religious oppression as they fled the unwillingness of various protestant nations at the time to be as oppressive of others as they would like.
I would fully believe that the American founding fathers expected Christianity to have significant influence on the American government. And probably, for the most part, saw that as a good thing. An organized Church Hierarchy, though? almost certainly not.
@@laurencefraserOh yeah, the founders are very explicit in many of their writings regarding God/Christianity, even if they weren’t religious themselves. Christianity is very much tied into many of our institutions, and it serves as a basis for our society. Less so today as many are abandoning religion and the population turning more diverse.
RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH, WHERE IS PART ONE, EGH,EGH, Sort it out