I replaced the staggered 21” MYP tires with some 18s (squared) tires/wheels from TSportLine. Love the improvement in all facets of my 2022 MYP’s dynamics. But I stayed with the same Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires. I’m retired, and if the weather is BAD we are not going anywhere.
Summed up my experience too. M3P on 19 inch cross climate 2s. They will handle it pretty much anything thrown at them. As you correctly stated you won’t gain any range by going down a size running these, you end up in roughly the same place as the 20 inch OEMs. Ride is miles better, although you do lose some sharpness when pushing on, but that won’t matter to most people. Your swapping process identical to mine too. Great vid 👌👌
Snap! Coming upto 40k miles on my CC2 set in UK after one f/b swap. Ive tried to get stuck in the snow two years on the trot now and failed miserably 😆 ⛄️❄️🥶. Its crazy how good these tyres are, that uneasy feeling when driving in heavy rain at high speed or in sub zero icey road conditions has gone. Deep snow on the road and travelling on ungritted roads, up/down hills etc. ive left SUV struggling to climb a snowy hill while my car takes it with ease…. They look pretty cool too 👌
Personal experience on my YLR on oem 255/45R19 tires... Original continentals: 18k miles. 2nd set OEM conti: 22k miles with mostly using CHILL MODE. 3rd set: Michelin CC2s (best michelin tires i owned in 25 yr a of driving in all road conditions of California): 40k miles (inner part was 2/32 but rest of the tire was 5/32 vs 10/32 when it was brans new). In another words, i spent $1k on CC2 (prorated) every 40k miles. I do alignment every 6k miles and rotations every 3k miles on all my EV. 4th set: CC2 again (1k miles on it so far) since 50% of my driving is dry vs 30% wet vs 20% snow/ice. Range Hit: CC2 on my Y vs oem conti gave me a 12% hit in range doing several 50 mile loop test on autopilot set at 73 mph in 40F outside temp.
I have for winter FastWheels EV01+ wheels with my Michaline Crossclimate 2 235/R45-20 work just great, good efficiency on last 10K KM road trips in winter (temps at -18Deg/C. / 1 Deg.F) about 350watt per mile (219watt/km) at 65 to 70MPH
I don't live in a State where it gets very cold, but from my experience, dedicated tires for specific seasons is definitely the way to go. Being that I live in a really warm state, I usually always run summer tires, although, I do hate how bad they are with longevity and ride comfort.
Model 3 performance here. Using Michelin pilot sport 4 all seasons. Have been fantastic in summer and in winter/snow. Also, Tesla still comes to my house and does a rotation for me for $65.
I live in Ottawa, Ontario Canada and have been using these tires on my Model 3 long range. 3 winters down now and no issues whatsoever ever. They started with 10/32 of an inch tread and after 31K miles I still have 7/32 running them all four seasons. Never will buy a different tire again.
to those thinking in getting the CC2 in their MY with 19s’, fitment is a little off. bead isn’t completely flushed to the rim. not bad if you have aftermarket hub caps but very noticeable in stock covers. little disappointed. wish i’ve gone the hankook route instead
My MYL came with Hankook Ventus summer tires. Despite the foam, the noise was quite high and the ride was harsh. Then I switched to 19“ Goodyear All Season Vector 4, Gen 3, bought them online. They have no Tesla „endorsement“ (T0,1,2-rating) and no foam inside. The guy at the garage was concerned that I would be disappointed. Heck no! They are awesome. Much less noise and a much softer ride. It feels like driving a much better car, almost like the difference between the old M3 and M3 Highland. I don‘t know about the Michelin and they might be as good but I can only recommend considering to go all-season. Great and safe ride, much better at higher speeds that the Hankooks, less noise (on average -3dB) and no need to swap tires two times per year. That being said, I don‘t know how long they will last and consumption might be a little higher than with the OEM summer tires but that‘s not clear yet.
MYP Falken 460. 275 front 295 Rear. Love the look of the stance and the style of the tire. Will by again OEM tires lasted 34500 miles. Falken 20,000 miles 25% used. One thing that I have noticed is that the rear camber is not affecting these tires as much as the OEM tires
My MSP wears 19” PSAS4 and I’m very happy with them. Coming from staggered 21” PSS and I go to the snow once or twice a year. They are adequate in snow, excellent in wet, and close enough to stock in dry. I could go for better winter performance but it’s not worth it for me, ymmv.
Hey J, what all season tires are you putting on your 2024 M3P? I live near Seattle and just bought a red 24M3P, and rarely (if ever) drive in snow. I'm tired of swapping summer and winter tires, and since CC2s don't fit the stock 20" wheels, heading into winter I'm thinking of selling the summer Pirelli's the car came with and buying Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 Plus. You think that's the best A/S tire for our car?
Jeremiah, just watching your video. I am waiting for my 2024 M3P to arrive. My plan is to remove the wheels and tires. I live in Wisconsin and summer tires will not work. I also do not want to deal with not being able to rotate the tires. I am thinking to downgrade to 19" wheels and purchase the Michelin cross climate 2 tires. What are your thoughts on downgrading to 19". Do you have any suggestions on wheels that will work well with the performance model in the 19" size. Also, are there any calibrations that will be needed due to downsizing the wheels and going 4 square? Your help is appreciated.
Like the idea of the tires for upcoming winter.. Was looking to get rims elsewhere to fit the Model 3 performance rims and its tricky. Apparently there is a stepped hub and other things to consider like brake clearance? Tire rack apparently only offers 19 or 20" but includes 18" for the non-performance models... Perhaps other oem tesla rims don't work on performance models either?
I have had a 2018 Tesla LR and am considering buying the new performance 3. I live in NE Ohio. The 3 perf only comes with 20 ' summer tires. Do we know if it will come with "all weather tires" in the fall? I am not sure if I should sell the summer tires and then go with a 20' all season , or have 2 sets (winter and summer sets)- and if so, should I get different rims ('19) with different tires maybe 245/40/19 or 245/35/19 with the winter set? Thanks, Rob
I installed Michelin sport pilot on my 2022 MYP. Had Pirelli tires from factory. The Michelin tires are very unstable at high speeds. Above 110 mph. The Pirelli’s handled much better. All the way up to 135mph.
Tesla suspension geometry is set up pretty aggressively-more of a track set up when it comes to toe-in and camber. That plus the ridiculous acceleration tends to lead to greater tire wear.
@@vlcohen8801 when I put my winter tires on at about 8k miles my stock tires (Pilot 4 AS) still looked great-no excessive inner wear-but I leave chill mode on almost all of the time. I’ve read posts from people that said they drove pretty gingerly and got decent mileage from their tires and posts from others that drove like they stole it and needed to replace tires at lower mileage than mine.
everyone says the 21 inch uberturbines have a horrible loud ride but to me its very quiet and soft I try looking for noise but they are very quiet wheels
I just replaced pirelli P zero as plus elect 50 k warranty from discount tire 295+ $ 45 tires warranty + tax . Fee total$1500 for 20 inch induction wheels Tesla tire last only 16k miles
I stopped watching/listening on the third plosive even though I think this is an otherwise good video. You gotta work on that. Maybe set the mic down, use a pop-filter, and/or edit those out. Plosives are horrible on the ears when using headphones and this is why musicians and professional voice-over artists use pop filters. The way you say "whill" tells me you're from Utah or somewhere near there. :D
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Thank you for the excellent thumbnail as well!
😂exactly why I clicked the video
Just a matter of note: MYP is staggered setup from factory. At least as of 2022 MYP.
Yeah mine is too
2023
I have a 2021, same thing.
I replaced the staggered 21” MYP tires with some 18s (squared) tires/wheels from TSportLine. Love the improvement in all facets of my 2022 MYP’s dynamics. But I stayed with the same Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires. I’m retired, and if the weather is BAD we are not going anywhere.
ya i'm a bit confused since it looks like he has the performance tires which would be the staggared setup
Summed up my experience too. M3P on 19 inch cross climate 2s. They will handle it pretty much anything thrown at them. As you correctly stated you won’t gain any range by going down a size running these, you end up in roughly the same place as the 20 inch OEMs. Ride is miles better, although you do lose some sharpness when pushing on, but that won’t matter to most people. Your swapping process identical to mine too. Great vid 👌👌
i got them in early of january and the crossclimate 2's are AWESOME ! tested them on ice and snow and on dry warm roads
Snap! Coming upto 40k miles on my CC2 set in UK after one f/b swap.
Ive tried to get stuck in the snow two years on the trot now and failed miserably 😆 ⛄️❄️🥶. Its crazy how good these tyres are, that uneasy feeling when driving in heavy rain at high speed or in sub zero icey road conditions has gone. Deep snow on the road and travelling on ungritted roads, up/down hills etc. ive left SUV struggling to climb a snowy hill while my car takes it with ease…. They look pretty cool too 👌
Best practice is to torque in stages, ie 90 ft-lbs, 110 ft-lbs, 129 ft-lbs.
Personal experience on my YLR on oem 255/45R19 tires...
Original continentals: 18k miles.
2nd set OEM conti: 22k miles with mostly using CHILL MODE.
3rd set: Michelin CC2s (best michelin tires i owned in 25 yr a of driving in all road conditions of California): 40k miles (inner part was 2/32 but rest of the tire was 5/32 vs 10/32 when it was brans new). In another words, i spent $1k on CC2 (prorated) every 40k miles. I do alignment every 6k miles and rotations every 3k miles on all my EV.
4th set: CC2 again (1k miles on it so far) since 50% of my driving is dry vs 30% wet vs 20% snow/ice.
Range Hit: CC2 on my Y vs oem conti gave me a 12% hit in range doing several 50 mile loop test on autopilot set at 73 mph in 40F outside temp.
I have for winter FastWheels EV01+ wheels with my Michaline Crossclimate 2 235/R45-20 work just great, good efficiency on last 10K KM road trips in winter (temps at -18Deg/C. / 1 Deg.F) about 350watt per mile (219watt/km) at 65 to 70MPH
I don't live in a State where it gets very cold, but from my experience, dedicated tires for specific seasons is definitely the way to go. Being that I live in a really warm state, I usually always run summer tires, although, I do hate how bad they are with longevity and ride comfort.
Model 3 performance here. Using Michelin pilot sport 4 all seasons. Have been fantastic in summer and in winter/snow. Also, Tesla still comes to my house and does a rotation for me for $65.
If it’s a performance it’s a staggered setup and rotations aren’t really done.
@@brussell8675309l nope
I live in Ottawa, Ontario Canada and have been using these tires on my Model 3 long range. 3 winters down now and no issues whatsoever ever. They started with 10/32 of an inch tread and after 31K miles I still have 7/32 running them all four seasons. Never will buy a different tire again.
Hey there, are you running these all year long or swapping for summers?
@@kvella08 All year for 3 years.
Good video. Glad to hear from a fellow Kentuckian their take on tires. Thanks.
haha same, I live south east, perry county.
to those thinking in getting the CC2 in their MY with 19s’, fitment is a little off. bead isn’t completely flushed to the rim. not bad if you have aftermarket hub caps but very noticeable in stock covers. little disappointed. wish i’ve gone the hankook route instead
My MYL came with Hankook Ventus summer tires. Despite the foam, the noise was quite high and the ride was harsh. Then I switched to 19“ Goodyear All Season Vector 4, Gen 3, bought them online. They have no Tesla „endorsement“ (T0,1,2-rating) and no foam inside. The guy at the garage was concerned that I would be disappointed. Heck no! They are awesome. Much less noise and a much softer ride. It feels like driving a much better car, almost like the difference between the old M3 and M3 Highland. I don‘t know about the Michelin and they might be as good but I can only recommend considering to go all-season. Great and safe ride, much better at higher speeds that the Hankooks, less noise (on average -3dB) and no need to swap tires two times per year. That being said, I don‘t know how long they will last and consumption might be a little higher than with the OEM summer tires but that‘s not clear yet.
MYP
Falken 460. 275 front 295 Rear. Love the look of the stance and the style of the tire. Will by again
OEM tires lasted 34500 miles.
Falken 20,000 miles 25% used.
One thing that I have noticed is that the rear camber is not affecting these tires as much as the OEM tires
I just got a set of these for my Model Y this morning!
How about a comparison of Crossclimate 2 to Hankook EV Ion AS noise levels, etc.?
My MSP wears 19” PSAS4 and I’m very happy with them. Coming from staggered 21” PSS and I go to the snow once or twice a year. They are adequate in snow, excellent in wet, and close enough to stock in dry. I could go for better winter performance but it’s not worth it for me, ymmv.
I’m using Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4 right now. Decent. Road noise is off the charts though.
Thank you for the reviewing. Are those the Satin Grey or Satin Black TS5’s?
Winter isn’t really a thing for us here in TX. Maybe for like 3 days each leap year but not worth getting another set of wheels.
Had CC2’s on an old car and loved them. I now have Tesla and the stock tyres are nearly done… will be buying again soon…
MYP has staggered
Correct
i've heard the Y LR and Y P have the same size brakes, its just the P are painted red. many 18" wheels will fit on the LR and P.
Hey J, what all season tires are you putting on your 2024 M3P? I live near Seattle and just bought a red 24M3P, and rarely (if ever) drive in snow. I'm tired of swapping summer and winter tires, and since CC2s don't fit the stock 20" wheels, heading into winter I'm thinking of selling the summer Pirelli's the car came with and buying Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 Plus. You think that's the best A/S tire for our car?
Bonus: when you have your wheels off it is a great opportunity to clean off the brake calipers, especially the nice red performance brembos.
I've seen your channel before. This was a great video. 👍
I have the exact same setup. I knew spending $3,500 on snow rated tires would mean it wouldn’t snow this winter. I was right. You’re welcome, Ohio.
Jeremiah, just watching your video. I am waiting for my 2024 M3P to arrive. My plan is to remove the wheels and tires. I live in Wisconsin and summer tires will not work. I also do not want to deal with not being able to rotate the tires. I am thinking to downgrade to 19" wheels and purchase the Michelin cross climate 2 tires. What are your thoughts on downgrading to 19". Do you have any suggestions on wheels that will work well with the performance model in the 19" size. Also, are there any calibrations that will be needed due to downsizing the wheels and going 4 square? Your help is appreciated.
I am also curious about this. I just picked up my 2024 M3P and am debating 19" vs 18" TS5 with the Crossfire 2.
Like the idea of the tires for upcoming winter.. Was looking to get rims elsewhere to fit the Model 3 performance rims and its tricky. Apparently there is a stepped hub and other things to consider like brake clearance? Tire rack apparently only offers 19 or 20" but includes 18" for the non-performance models... Perhaps other oem tesla rims don't work on performance models either?
Lots of cars require jack pads nowadays. They tend to be performance cars, in my case it’s a corvette.
You should consider Falken FK460 A/S. I have a 23 MYP.
I bought a 2025 model y performance. It has a staggered tire setup
i dont rotate tires ever, i just drive until replacement, approx 20k miles but im a bit rough on tires.
Hey great video can you provide the link for the tires. I can't find it anywhere.
Thanks
well done, thanks for the content
Goodyear Maxlife tires, hands down the best on the Model 3 Long Range. I've had them for 50k miles, and they have a lot of tread life left.
Do you live snow area? If so how was the performance?
@@joecastillomovies, I do, they are alright, not exceptional or anything in the snow, but adequate.
I have had a 2018 Tesla LR and am considering buying the new performance 3. I live in NE Ohio. The 3 perf only comes with 20 ' summer tires. Do we know if it will come with "all weather tires" in the fall? I am not sure if I should sell the summer tires and then go with a 20' all season , or have 2 sets (winter and summer sets)- and if so, should I get different rims ('19) with different tires maybe 245/40/19 or 245/35/19 with the winter set? Thanks,
Rob
Good video. Question, is it worth it to get a 2021 M3 RWD with 50k miles?
I installed Michelin sport pilot on my 2022 MYP. Had Pirelli tires from factory. The Michelin tires are very unstable at high speeds. Above 110 mph. The Pirelli’s handled much better. All the way up to 135mph.
Yea. The road safety is also unstable with you driving that fast
@@shunnybunny boo hoo watch out
What about the wheel weight placement?
Corvettes and BMW’s also use jack pads.
Dont see cross climate being sold for model y 20 inch wheels any help?
i don’t think they make them in 20s?
2024 model 3 performance comes with a staggered tires
What size are your Climate 2's?
You are wrong.. 2024 model Y performance comes stock with a staggered setup..
I'm not sure what to make of the open toed sandal choice while changing tires. Safety first?
But i’m wearing socks?
Yah killin us Miah with them 3D printed rubber clogs.
You on TV son! Hahahaha jkjk
one thing that i dont get is when you buy the tire, how do you get them on your rims.
I was going to ask the same question
your set up is exactly the same as mine lol
Anyone using these on RWD?
? Myp has a staggard setup
Are they still delivering staggered? I thought they switched to a square setup from the factory
@@JremiahJones no, not yet. I didn't know of these plans, but I just picked up mine a couple weeks ago, 275,255
I have a 23 MYP and my tires are staggered from the factory. I wish they weren’t but…
im here for the cake
Nice thumbnail 🍑😏
65 usd at tesla to rotate my tires, last month.
Why is it that a 5000lb BMW X6 can get 50,000 miles on a full set of Mich’s and a 4800lb MYLR Dual motor can not? Please just coach me through that?
Tesla suspension geometry is set up pretty aggressively-more of a track set up when it comes to toe-in and camber. That plus the ridiculous acceleration tends to lead to greater tire wear.
@@paulschilling6756 So if I don't drive like a speed racer I should get customary life from my Scorpions. You think?
@@vlcohen8801 when I put my winter tires on at about 8k miles my stock tires (Pilot 4 AS) still looked great-no excessive inner wear-but I leave chill mode on almost all of the time. I’ve read posts from people that said they drove pretty gingerly and got decent mileage from their tires and posts from others that drove like they stole it and needed to replace tires at lower mileage than mine.
everyone says the 21 inch uberturbines have a horrible loud ride but to me its very quiet and soft I try looking for noise but they are very quiet wheels
🙏🏾
Nice
My 2023 Tesla model Y performance is staggered! My 2018 Model 3 Performance is not.
I just replaced pirelli P zero as plus elect 50 k warranty from discount tire 295+ $ 45 tires warranty + tax . Fee total$1500 for 20 inch induction wheels Tesla tire last only 16k miles
Try “Chill Mode”
Don't drop the car or wheels on your toes... 😂😂😂
Misleading title. Should be how to replace Tesla Model Y tires! Beside 10K miles is not enough. Come back and make a video after at least 20K miles.
I stopped watching/listening on the third plosive even though I think this is an otherwise good video. You gotta work on that. Maybe set the mic down, use a pop-filter, and/or edit those out. Plosives are horrible on the ears when using headphones and this is why musicians and professional voice-over artists use pop filters.
The way you say "whill" tells me you're from Utah or somewhere near there. :D