@@DigitalSubset I imagine all these serious Japanese executives standing around a circular table slightly smiling, nodding and shaking hands, as signed papers sit on the table.
I had a chance to talk to one of the Subaru engineers at a show back when this car debuted. They said the 22B stood for 2.2 liter boxer in reference to the engine. Thankfully there are a number of quality kits to turn normal 2.5 RS models into 22B clones these days and they have figured out how to make the 2.5 live in the 400hp range so this is a pretty easy cars to replicate if you like that style which I do
@@kawrx2002Setsuna Yuki even still remembered her rallying idol, Colin McRae and of course, his famous 555. It also ever used as the 2nd livery for Ricardo Zonta in 1999 BAR 001 F1 CAR.
I just commented the same thing about the 22B name referencing the engine configuration a few mins ago cos it was bugging me. Then I remembered I'm not a child and had to not be an A-hole. Did you ever see the "P1" prodrive cars? My best friend had one with 480hp and wow was this thing an animal. Beautiful cars too. Very special
Some added quirks: (I hope Doug pins this comment, or Kennan mentions these if he ever reviews this car) 1. Stock rear wing - aside from adjustable, the rear wing also sits on top of the third brake light which is housed in a separate trim piece. The regular V5-V6 STI had a similar design albeit the third brake light being slightly raised due to the lower part of the spoiler (which is attached to the trunk) being lower than the third brake light. The STI optional double deck wing had a similar third brake light situation to the 22B but it is a bit longer and is separated from the wing itself 2. Carbon Fiber - CF strut bar was standard on 22B models. Regular STI had aluminum strut bars. Interior trim pieces are aftermarket. 3. Red intake manifold - better porting and airflow compared to regular intake manifolds, straight out of the Type R/RA editions which was the competition ready models. 4. Front bumper - 22B exclusive which was widened to pair with the fenders. Integrated grill, with a smal stalk holding the pink Subaru STI emblem. Although Subaru also offered a similar style bumperfor the regular narrowbody Impreza, it was a two-piece kit, with the grill being a separate piece. 5. Taillights - UK-spec taillights with the amber turn signal lights. Japan-spec models had clear turn signal lights similar to the front turj signal lights. 6. Auxilliary gauges - those are actually a factory option offered by Subaru, made by Lamco. They have a dedicated pod cluster that was supposed to be housed in the top central storage compartment. 7. Seats - 22B-specific. The black line across the STI logo is only available in the 22B. The next generation STi also had this seat, but without the black line across the STI logo. 8. Hood - scoop is standard, but vents are 22B-specific. Vents are enlarged, slightly raised, and are placed horizontally, regular Impreza (V3-V6) models had vertical vents with smaller openings. Even older models (V1, V2) had even tinier openings. 9. Exclusivity and rareness - Subaru produced about 400 22Bs for the Japanese market, and about 20 more for export (UK, Australia), excluding some prototypes that were given to members of the WRC team (McRae, Grist, and Prodrive). Total number produced was about 425~ units. 10. Another ultimate Subaru GC8 - Subaru also produced an even rarer first generation Impreza- dubbed the S201, a four door sedan with a wild body kit, and even more power than the 22B at 300hp, and even wilder suspension upgrades. Produced with less than 100 units, this car is even more rare and cheaper than the 22B. (Hope they review this car in the future)
Thank you for this. You could also option a factory roll cage for a few years of the gc’s. So that possible could be factory but doubt it as it was very rare. He always misses out on a lot of things or just doesn’t know what he’s talking about when it comes to Subarus lol
Regular STIs also came with the carbon strut brace. Not just the 22B. And I'm pretty sure for any 92-00 Impreza, the STI and type R/RA/22B/S201 all had the same manifold within reason. I don't think the manifolds were polished and ported, and were essentially standard manifolds painted red. Some earlier type R/RA had a 5th injector next to the TB
@@u-an6821Aluminum was standard. Carbon Fiber was an option. R/RA manifolds had a larger diameter, to pair with the R/RA heads (I believe they were ported and polished)
Seriously, it's one of 400 cars and the owner had to change the wheels, the wing (the wing is not much different, why change it? The stock one looked fine?) and the rear wiper is removed leaving a nub on the rear window... Just leave the damn wiper, it's great to have.
@@volvo09 you can see from the paint damage, various dents on the car etc. that this has actually been driven and not a garage queen. I bet those wheels and wing were changed due to damage, rather than by choice, as getting 1:1 replacements would be extremely expensive.
I've had my 2012 STi since 2019. Previous owner added an exhaust and that's it for the mod list haha. I've done nothing to it and I'm still enjoying it
All Subarus benefit from mild mods for reliability at a minimum. Add an air oil separator, big oil pan w/ baffles, and an oil cooler at the very minimum. Being Pro-tuned for whatever local fuel it will be consuming is recommended for reliability as well.
@Brian_Eugene_Lee Tesla isn't giving it to real car reviewers, that thing is all about hype, hence why a guy who reviews cell phones reviewed a cybertruck before anyone like Doug or throttle house...
@@volvo09well logically the Tesla cyber truck was all about technology and it’s technological features so it would make sense to send it to someone who specializes in tech reviews lmfao. What should Tesla have done, sent a cyber truck to someone like Cletus mcfarend to review LMFAO. Doug’s favorite and personal cars are old analog cars like the ford GT and Carrera GT which are the opposite of the cyber truck. People like Doug aren’t the target audience for the truck so why would they send him one to review. That’s like a soccer ball company sending a professional American football player a soccer ball to review😂
Doug is the type of guy to review all of the remaining 398 units of the 22B. First number 085/400 and now 061/400. He forgot to mention the second cup holder this time. And I’m not sure his format has changed at all since the last time. Guess he really wanted this car on his site.
yeah usually when he does a car again it seems he really tries to highlight something different. But it's only been 3 years since the last one so this is essentially him producing the same exact video twice which seems lazy
Not Subie owners. It's the bros who would pay $300k for a car from Gran Turismo. Subie owners are... I mean they have a whole section for pet upgrades, like kennels and seat protectors. People who take their dog to the park.
Very cool car. Every time Doug mentioned an aftermarket modification, I just pictured the car's value slowly dropping compared to a completely stock 22B. Not that it matters much - the prior owner likely used the car in the time period, and the new owner should also do the same!
I think it might matter though. This is an obviously limited trim, and wouldn't be purchased to mess with and customize. It's not like the original owner would have bought not knowing that. Something's up with this car.
@@NitsujWrenches i also notice the body lines dont look quite right especially the sides of the hood, like that's way too much of a gap for me to just shrug off. something is definitely fishy about this one
I noticed literally as he said only two back seats, there is a middle seat belt. Also the rear wipers came on alot of the JDM base market cars, but also the AU market too. My 01 I30T is the Infiniti Canadian version, so its missing the rear fog light, and rear wiper. As the Cefiro from Japan and the Maxima STR from Austrailia had. The EU also had different requirements on sedans/saloon cars. Love this car and the 90s JDM feel, fit and finish. It just worked, every time!
Yup, the JDM cars got all the goods and if anything, any market other than US (and maybe Canada?) tended to be a little better. My JDM 2010 STI has self-leveling headlights, power mirrors, fog lights (front and rear), rear wiper (which is actually useful!) and probably other goodies too.
The 22B stands for 2.2 Boxer. Wudda thought that was pretty obvious but then I was remembering the way some people refer to the engine configuration as a "Flat 4" rather than a "Boxer". What a car man.... I was lucky enough that 4 of my friends all had WRX's and STi's at the same time and I'll never forget the 1st time sitting in the passenger seat when boost hit! 😂 My mate also had an Impreza P1, and that imo is almost as special as the 22B. The power and sound of this thing was unbelievable.
Things to actually note: the Kenwood head unit wasn’t aftermarket, it was a factory upgrade option that literally says Subaru on it. The back seat isn’t a two seater, as you can see there is a lap belt and three buckles. In the trunk there is a 6-CD changer which is why the head unit was the upgraded Kenwood unit.
25 years ago I regularly walked past one going to the bus stop for school in the suburbs of Melbourne. It was parked just around the corner from my house. We knew the owner. If I recall correctly my mum told me he ended up selling it because he kept getting speeding tickets. Blows my mind now that he parked it on the street.
@@pinoypoolboynot really a "mod" though is it, with the 22b being focused on handling and lightness, things like a wiper motor seem pointless. Plus on the twisty roads you don't need to look out the back window cos nothing will be there just dust bro
I was born 1980. I watched WRC in the 90's and was fortunate to score a slightly hail-damaged 2.5RS in 1998 while in HS. I modified it and drove the crap out of it until I sold it in the 2000s (I really wish I hadn't). The 22B was my icon going back to when it was released and I irrationally love it over every other car. If I could afford to buy a $300k car, out of all the supercars it would definitely be a 22B. I can even recognize how stupid that is.
I think the reviewing in the dingy dark basement car park in front of a concrete wall backdrop made his videos looked cheap with low production values. Outside is so much better
Doug! I had a 01 GC8. That back seat is for 3 (count the belts) and there are more cup holders next to the defroster button on the dash, it folds out… ya missed them 😂
I know this car. First owner was Akihito Shibata. I met him on business in Hokkaido when he had this car in 1999. Still looks good although too bad the original wing is gone. I wonder how many owners this has had since.
One of the best cars ever made imo. My uncle had one about a decade ago and said it was the best car he’s ever owned and the only one he regrets selling
The engines are pretty reliable tbf. My dad had a 1999 wrx for 6 years without any trouble. They’ve got a bad reputation because of how most owners treat them
I've never seen Doug justify so many modifications, especially on such a high end car. A lot of mods done here are reversible, save for potentially the roll cage (which... why?), but I can't imagine that this is going to sell for near 300k.
First generation Imprezas, regardless of trim, were wonderful cars to drive. The suspension just worked, the car just did what you asked it to. They did especially well on bumpy backroads, just not caring about road irregularities, with no bump steer.
Correction for Doug: the I/C intercooler spray "auto" function is designed to spray water on the intercooler when the engine senses climbing boost levels. The auto spray will discharge water during the boost climb and go for 5 second intervals. Only available on JDM models, but the switches can be recreated for U.S. models. My tuner makes the auto spray modules and the map change switches for changing tuner maps on the fly.
The subaru impreza to own is the 1995 version 2 type RA that is the real deal 👌 super rare and the quickest homologation impreza of them all. 22b is very heavy
I'm just over here rocking my WRX swapped shitbox Impreza coupe with about $10k into it. Love my wannabe22b and feeling pretty good about my project!! 😁
@@MichaelEilers I have a swapped coupe. It has the same basic chassis and doors as the 22b, without the widebody. But it is a factory two door, no rear doors at all.
Cars and Bids has been a real win-win... Doug gets access to more of these rare cars, we get to see more videos about them, and sellers get more awareness and attention on their listings!
That's correct.. the 22B does stand for 2.2L and Bilstein suspension. That car looks like it's one of the 25 made for outside of Japan. The 400 for Japan had different tail lights
@@dannysamsam2467 Well said. Like seriously, how dare this guy spend HIS hard earned cash on a car and drive it, and mod it how HE likes it, gosh, how dare he! /s I find it hilarious that people think like that and get *genuinely* upset lol. If these people are THIS upset, they should buy it and return it back to stock, they make it sound so easy.
I would be willing to bet some of these mods were done out of necessity due to it potentially being in an accident of some sort. The OEM replacement parts would have to be extremely expensive I imagine. If I had to guess, I bet the car was in an accident where it hit a curb (or something similar) with one side of the wheels, spun around, and took off the rear bumper/spoiler and potentially took out the rear glass as well. It's just a hunch but that could explain why things have been changed either willingly or unwillingly.
I bought a new ‘04 WRX, had it for 8 years and 100k miles. I lightly modded it and wow was she reliable. Only thing other than maintenance, only replaced driver side fog lamp twice, that’s it. Woman rear ended me and totaled it day before I was gonna sell it. Her insurance gave me $14.5k for it, only $9k less than I paid for it!
Subaru liked to refer to their rally sucsess with the codes for the cars, for example RB5 refered to Richard Burns no5 car and Subaru them self said the 22b is a hexadecimal reference to the 555 Colin Mcrae car it shared the body shell with. It might look like a basic Impreza (i think that was the point) but the 22b has almost a cult following due to it's Rally pedegree, back in the 90's there was the Subaru - Mitsubishi wars in rallying and they had fans so dedecated there would be fights at events over which manufacture was best.
I had a 2000 Impreza 2.5RS for a few years, it was a very fun car. The 22B styling is great, but I'm sad the prices are so expensive because I doubt that people who pay that much will be able to enjoy driving their Subaru the way I got to enjoy driving mine.
I memorized when these would show up in the used car dealer in Gran Turismo 4 because they were the best Subaru in the game (in my opinion). Try to find an Evo VI Tommi Makinen Edition next! They were really crazy, with the titanium turbocharger and stuff.
This 22B is a bit odd. Removing the wheels, wing, gear knob and steering wheel, all items that command an incredibly high price used, and replacing them with non OEM units, as well as having a roll cage, kind of makes this too modified to be considered easy to return to factory in my opinion. If it were my money I'd buy a completely stock one, or just buy a V4 STI Type R for a fraction of the price.
As Doug points out though, you could happily daily this, knowing that you weren't going to hurt the value as much doing so. And personally I'd only buy a car to drive it.
@@phuzz00 Why would anyone daily a car like that? At this point almost everything japanese from the 90s is so overpriced. Maybe it’s worth as an investment (until the bubble bursts) but as a daily you’ll get much more bang for your buck spending it on practically anything else.
for those who want a next super iconic subaru - take a look at JDM 2005 WRX STi Spec C type RA-R. the highest performance classic subaru contains all the best features subaru was ever made. lightened, very limited and very rare.
I'd want to check the history of this car before bidding on it. I have a suspicion wheels and wings are replaced because the originals were damaged somehow.
Agreed. Why on earth would someone change out those perfect factory parts for some inferior aftermarket ones? Because they were damaged and you can’t find them again.
I think there were only 500 yellow Volvo 850 T5-R cars brought into America (or wagons, I forget) but those aren't valued crazy high like this Subaru. I guess collectors are willing to pay.
I would be shocked if a 22b ever dipped below £300k, i understand people outside europe won't get it but anything attached to Mcrae and wrx will have an almost cult following.
The 22B STi is special only because of it's low production numbers of barely over 400 units total made. The 22B club in Japan still meets to this day at a Subaru dealership which was started by one of the 1st 22B owners. The 22B was a vast leap in automotive and rally technology. However, I will still stand by Richard Hammond's statement of the GD chassis being the best ever built by Subaru. I may be bias because I own one, but the driver/machine connection is much more raw and pure than that of the newer models without a doubt.
@@bradydevergilio7478I can say with all confidence that you have a massive point in your statement. The advancement in the manual transmission/transfer case dccd control of the 2004 - 2007 STi GD chassis were a helping hand to handle excessive power applications, and it did it surprisingly well. I've seen stock drivetrains handle 700whp without issue. The added safety did tend to weigh the vehicle down a bit as the newer models from 2008 - to current have been redesigned and heavier crash protection systems have been implemented since the days of the GD.
The rarity factor is hilarious in what people will pay. I can draw a one of a kind art piece, literally 1 of 1, and it won't be worth anything, but some things people will pay thru the nose for based mostly on rarity. It's an interesting quirk of the human thought process.
Doug missed one other cup holder in the dash, just under the vent. This is the worlds most flimsy cup holder because it just hangs out the all on its own.
Anyone notice the resprayed front upper radiator support, it should be a darker non metallic plain ol' blue, and also the other vin plate on drivers side is missing on strut housing, is this a mock up with a plaque purchased from ebay #0000.1 of 400 ?! lol
There’s a second fold out cup holder beside the Hazard light and demister switch. Equally as flimsy and cold drinks condensation drips right onto the radio
I never saw the 22B outperform any of the evos or base STi's. It's actually heavier than the other gc8s, so you're just paying for the rarity. If you wanted the best performing gc8, you got the Type RAs
Love this type of homologated style with wide fenders. It’s a subtle but purposeful look. Very clean. Nice to see people actually driving and enjoying the car👍
I can’t believe that Doug is STILL the type of guy to wear a white tshirt under his dark tshirt. The style will never change for old Doug. Never change Doug.
It's a typical Japanese thing...unfortunately. I dealt with this often questionable (also form the technical point of view) mods in almost any car imported form Japan, they have to screw even the rarest cars at least with some fancy aftermarket radio.
Hey Doug! At 8:05 you mentioned the naming and "why it is called 22b". The one theory I read a couple of years ago, is that 22b is "555" in hexadecimal. 555 Being a brand from British American Tobacco which sponsored the Subaru WRC program back in the day. It makes even more sense when you consider that the 22b was sort of a homologation special, allowing Subaru to use a wider track and bigger engine in the "World Rally Car class" of WRC. So, in other words, Subaru named the 22b after the company that allowed them to "have the 22b" in the first place
THIS is the best looking car Subaru has ever made. They broke the mold with this car. It's not even about performance, it's just a beautiful little car.
I've never turned my head harder after a car than when I saw a 22B. Shocked and stunned. And so glad I had time to recognize it. Would have been easy to miss.
There is absolutely zero reason to switch out the OEM adjustable rear wing for an aftermarket one that looks almost idential, and I can think of thousands (literally) of reasons not to. I'm betting this car was in an accident which damaged the rear wing and the owners couldn't afford to replace it with the OEM one from Subaru. Maybe the same is true for the wheels.
I don't mind most of the modifications because they seem period correct, but the replacement wing is baffling to me. Maybe this thing was in a serious rear end collision that broke the wing beyond repair. I'll be watching the auction because I'm curious what this will go for.
Passenger door color doesnt seem to match the front fender as well but it could be lighting. This car is just a little fishy hopefully the new owner gets it fully inspected
The first new car I bought with my own money was a Forest Green 1993 Subaru Impreza Wagon. I drove it for about 6 years and put around 100k miles on it. Those do not sell now for 300k.
Here in the UK that’s what it was known (officially) as 👌 I came across one at a salvage yard in around 2000 with left corner damage (moderate by today’s standards) for £15 K 😮😮
@@hassyg4083well the whole car is already a cigarette packet, given that the famous Subaru colour combination of blue and gold comes from the 555 logo.
😂 Thank you - you’ve really made me laugh because you started out so well by correctly implying there are much better or exotic cars out there for $300k, and then proceeded to list yet more overhyped and baseball-cap-reversed “street racer” cars that are equally terrible value at anything over $100k!
Had the chance of seeing a 22b STi in person at a Car show in Nz when these were just hot off the press ( Nz are so relaxed with many MANY Japanese import Cars ) and knew all those years ago that this 22b would be stupidly expensive in 20-30years time.... and didn't disappoint lol
Anyone notice…now that he’s “‘made it,” Doug doesn’t feel the need to climb into tiny back seats anymore for our entertainment? 😂
He's getting too spoiled... 🤣
Doug is the 'gold standard' of backseat head room lol. Btw he uses a chair in his basement reviews now, can you believe it, he actually sits! 😄
He also doesn’t feel the need to do any cars that aren’t sold from his website
Doug's hands are softer than his wife's
@@RetroKingOG lmao got em
As soon as Doug said 276 HP, I knew the term "gentleman's agreement" was coming 😂
I just imagine 2 old Japanese men with bad teeth laughing and giving a handshake when I hear "Gentleman's Agreement"
@@DigitalSubsetlmao I thought I was the only one
276hp was burned into my memory from playing Gran Turismo.
@@DigitalSubsetwell the 22B STi has 302 bhp in reality.
@@DigitalSubset I imagine all these serious Japanese executives standing around a circular table slightly smiling, nodding and shaking hands, as signed papers sit on the table.
I had a chance to talk to one of the Subaru engineers at a show back when this car debuted. They said the 22B stood for 2.2 liter boxer in reference to the engine.
Thankfully there are a number of quality kits to turn normal 2.5 RS models into 22B clones these days and they have figured out how to make the 2.5 live in the 400hp range so this is a pretty easy cars to replicate if you like that style which I do
22B is also a number in Hexadecimal that equals 555; which was also Colin McRae's number.
@@kawrx2002 555 was not Colin's number. 555 was the tobacco brand that sponsored Subaru in rally
@@kawrx2002Setsuna Yuki even still remembered her rallying idol, Colin McRae and of course, his famous 555. It also ever used as the 2nd livery for Ricardo Zonta in 1999 BAR 001 F1 CAR.
@@luissebastianramosvizcaino7518McRae's car number is actually 1.
I just commented the same thing about the 22B name referencing the engine configuration a few mins ago cos it was bugging me. Then I remembered I'm not a child and had to not be an A-hole.
Did you ever see the "P1" prodrive cars?
My best friend had one with 480hp and wow was this thing an animal.
Beautiful cars too. Very special
Some added quirks: (I hope Doug pins this comment, or Kennan mentions these if he ever reviews this car)
1. Stock rear wing - aside from adjustable, the rear wing also sits on top of the third brake light which is housed in a separate trim piece. The regular V5-V6 STI had a similar design albeit the third brake light being slightly raised due to the lower part of the spoiler (which is attached to the trunk) being lower than the third brake light. The STI optional double deck wing had a similar third brake light situation to the 22B but it is a bit longer and is separated from the wing itself
2. Carbon Fiber - CF strut bar was standard on 22B models. Regular STI had aluminum strut bars. Interior trim pieces are aftermarket.
3. Red intake manifold - better porting and airflow compared to regular intake manifolds, straight out of the Type R/RA editions which was the competition ready models.
4. Front bumper - 22B exclusive which was widened to pair with the fenders. Integrated grill, with a smal stalk holding the pink Subaru STI emblem. Although Subaru also offered a similar style bumperfor the regular narrowbody Impreza, it was a two-piece kit, with the grill being a separate piece.
5. Taillights - UK-spec taillights with the amber turn signal lights. Japan-spec models had clear turn signal lights similar to the front turj signal lights.
6. Auxilliary gauges - those are actually a factory option offered by Subaru, made by Lamco. They have a dedicated pod cluster that was supposed to be housed in the top central storage compartment.
7. Seats - 22B-specific. The black line across the STI logo is only available in the 22B. The next generation STi also had this seat, but without the black line across the STI logo.
8. Hood - scoop is standard, but vents are 22B-specific. Vents are enlarged, slightly raised, and are placed horizontally, regular Impreza (V3-V6) models had vertical vents with smaller openings. Even older models (V1, V2) had even tinier openings.
9. Exclusivity and rareness - Subaru produced about 400 22Bs for the Japanese market, and about 20 more for export (UK, Australia), excluding some prototypes that were given to members of the WRC team (McRae, Grist, and Prodrive). Total number produced was about 425~ units.
10. Another ultimate Subaru GC8 - Subaru also produced an even rarer first generation Impreza- dubbed the S201, a four door sedan with a wild body kit, and even more power than the 22B at 300hp, and even wilder suspension upgrades. Produced with less than 100 units, this car is even more rare and cheaper than the 22B. (Hope they review this car in the future)
Thank you for this. You could also option a factory roll cage for a few years of the gc’s. So that possible could be factory but doubt it as it was very rare. He always misses out on a lot of things or just doesn’t know what he’s talking about when it comes to Subarus lol
What is a third brake light? It's called the High Stop light
@@nzuncovered1845n most countries it is called a third brake light...
Regular STIs also came with the carbon strut brace. Not just the 22B. And I'm pretty sure for any 92-00 Impreza, the STI and type R/RA/22B/S201 all had the same manifold within reason. I don't think the manifolds were polished and ported, and were essentially standard manifolds painted red. Some earlier type R/RA had a 5th injector next to the TB
@@u-an6821Aluminum was standard. Carbon Fiber was an option. R/RA manifolds had a larger diameter, to pair with the R/RA heads (I believe they were ported and polished)
Confirming that no Impreza owner can leave their car alone.
Seriously, it's one of 400 cars and the owner had to change the wheels, the wing (the wing is not much different, why change it? The stock one looked fine?) and the rear wiper is removed leaving a nub on the rear window... Just leave the damn wiper, it's great to have.
@@volvo09 you can see from the paint damage, various dents on the car etc. that this has actually been driven and not a garage queen. I bet those wheels and wing were changed due to damage, rather than by choice, as getting 1:1 replacements would be extremely expensive.
I've had my 2012 STi since 2019. Previous owner added an exhaust and that's it for the mod list haha. I've done nothing to it and I'm still enjoying it
The carbon fiber overlay in the interior made me giggle!
All Subarus benefit from mild mods for reliability at a minimum. Add an air oil separator, big oil pan w/ baffles, and an oil cooler at the very minimum. Being Pro-tuned for whatever local fuel it will be consuming is recommended for reliability as well.
I love to see Doug do more of the old stuff... even though it's just a cars and bids plug
It’s a win win
@Brian_Eugene_Lee Tesla isn't giving it to real car reviewers, that thing is all about hype, hence why a guy who reviews cell phones reviewed a cybertruck before anyone like Doug or throttle house...
i'd say the same for review from 7 years ago but this is still fresh review... i aint watching it
@@volvo09well logically the Tesla cyber truck was all about technology and it’s technological features so it would make sense to send it to someone who specializes in tech reviews lmfao. What should Tesla have done, sent a cyber truck to someone like Cletus mcfarend to review LMFAO. Doug’s favorite and personal cars are old analog cars like the ford GT and Carrera GT which are the opposite of the cyber truck. People like Doug aren’t the target audience for the truck so why would they send him one to review. That’s like a soccer ball company sending a professional American football player a soccer ball to review😂
@@zaiyas1408 it’s still a car.
Doug is the type of guy to review all of the remaining 398 units of the 22B. First number 085/400 and now 061/400. He forgot to mention the second cup holder this time. And I’m not sure his format has changed at all since the last time. Guess he really wanted this car on his site.
yeah usually when he does a car again it seems he really tries to highlight something different. But it's only been 3 years since the last one so this is essentially him producing the same exact video twice which seems lazy
...even though it's a bit of a beater
Except for the ones that got totally wrecked...if you think about it, this car is even rarer.
@@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785and also the one that is 20 years after release.
@@hedgerhedgerhedgerhedger4454more like still capable of battling supercars.
Doug is the type of guy to film a highly modified 22B and present it to us as OEM+
300k? Imagine how many vapes a Subaru owner could buy with that kind of money!
Why do subie owners like to vape? Cause I know I did hear this joke from somewhere else.
Why do birds fly? They just do.@@jamieborg4547
Agree!
Not Subie owners. It's the bros who would pay $300k for a car from Gran Turismo. Subie owners are... I mean they have a whole section for pet upgrades, like kennels and seat protectors. People who take their dog to the park.
@@KevinJDildonikthe dudes buying these are the same fuckheads buying 500,000$ r34s
Very cool car. Every time Doug mentioned an aftermarket modification, I just pictured the car's value slowly dropping compared to a completely stock 22B. Not that it matters much - the prior owner likely used the car in the time period, and the new owner should also do the same!
He spends the whole video justifying the modifications ☠️☠️☠️
The fully tuned Impreza 22B maybe costed about $399.000.
I think it might matter though. This is an obviously limited trim, and wouldn't be purchased to mess with and customize. It's not like the original owner would have bought not knowing that. Something's up with this car.
@@NitsujWrenches i also notice the body lines dont look quite right especially the sides of the hood, like that's way too much of a gap for me to just shrug off. something is definitely fishy about this one
7:56 special badge as well
I noticed literally as he said only two back seats, there is a middle seat belt. Also the rear wipers came on alot of the JDM base market cars, but also the AU market too. My 01 I30T is the Infiniti Canadian version, so its missing the rear fog light, and rear wiper. As the Cefiro from Japan and the Maxima STR from Austrailia had. The EU also had different requirements on sedans/saloon cars. Love this car and the 90s JDM feel, fit and finish. It just worked, every time!
Worked very nicely indeed too.😊
Yup, the JDM cars got all the goods and if anything, any market other than US (and maybe Canada?) tended to be a little better. My JDM 2010 STI has self-leveling headlights, power mirrors, fog lights (front and rear), rear wiper (which is actually useful!) and probably other goodies too.
The 22B stands for 2.2 Boxer.
Wudda thought that was pretty obvious but then I was remembering the way some people refer to the engine configuration as a "Flat 4" rather than a "Boxer".
What a car man.... I was lucky enough that 4 of my friends all had WRX's and STi's at the same time and I'll never forget the 1st time sitting in the passenger seat when boost hit! 😂
My mate also had an Impreza P1, and that imo is almost as special as the 22B. The power and sound of this thing was unbelievable.
i thought 22b is hexadecimal for 555
@@nx3035 That is a very neat coincidence, or maybe on purpose I have never heard that before. I always thought 2.2 boxer also.
Absolutely iconic colour scheme.
I always make the joke, that if it doesn't have gold wheels it's not a 'real Subaru' 🤣🤣
The Blue Mica 555 colour on 22B STi still legendary...
Color*
Its color
@ashokathegreat4534 no we speak English not American
"It does have back seats, but only two of them - no center, middle back seat." he says, while clearly showing the middle lap belt
Well Impreza 22B originally should've had its mid back seat.
He just phones it in. This channel is an ad for his auction
Things to actually note: the Kenwood head unit wasn’t aftermarket, it was a factory upgrade option that literally says Subaru on it. The back seat isn’t a two seater, as you can see there is a lap belt and three buckles. In the trunk there is a 6-CD changer which is why the head unit was the upgraded Kenwood unit.
25 years ago I regularly walked past one going to the bus stop for school in the suburbs of Melbourne. It was parked just around the corner from my house. We knew the owner. If I recall correctly my mum told me he ended up selling it because he kept getting speeding tickets. Blows my mind now that he parked it on the street.
Driving the Impreza around Melbourne definitely feeling sweet indeed.
There was a 22B on carsales last year, going for $800,000!
not worth it imo..@@simo7321
Doug is the type of guy to climb over a glass wall to see what's on the other side
This had me dying 😂
😂
genius :Dddd
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@quintonulm2435more like: Thats an interesting tactic.
The 22B is one of my favorite cars. That’s peak design, right there.
No it isn't. All my kids think that.
I particularly love the front end of it. Peak 90s JDM. Much like the r34 GTR.
@@arisengladiator Peak fridge design.
tf you mean a generic sedan with a wing is "peak design".
@@disguisedclone6722 Inverting a porsche.
11:55 loving the new Co-presenter who climbs onto the windshield.
Cars and Twigs!
Cars and Twigs? Now thats real funny.😂
One of the best car I ever drove. In Gran Turismo.
Same goes to one of the cars in DiRT 1 along with 1995 Celica GT4 ST205.
I once relaxed on the beach with a CIA employee. She told me maybe we can swim with masks? I told her it’s okay, take the lubricant.
I have to imagine the modifications to this car will lower it's value substantially.
Roll cage and no 5 point belts 👎
I never understood a rear wiper delete mod.
@@pinoypoolboynot really a "mod" though is it, with the 22b being focused on handling and lightness, things like a wiper motor seem pointless. Plus on the twisty roads you don't need to look out the back window cos nothing will be there just dust bro
@@pinoypoolboyModifying a car to modify it. Pointless and lowers value.
people modifying cars to make them worse
Love that fuji heavy industries aerospace division badge on the strut bar
I never understood why Subaru didn’t make more 2 door cars
@@Madge104I think they don’t tend to sell as well as 4 doors, historically
Doug the kind of guy to re-review cars as an ad for his website
I can't have been the only person thinking he already did a 22B.
22B - At the time, the title sponsor of Subaru was 555 cigarettes, and 22B translates to '555' in hexadecimal.
Sti stands for sexual transmitted illness from 22 boys or 22b
2.2L Turbo
Subaru engine code for turbo
That's some peak nerdage rat thar. 😁
@@AliG-nn9nf2.2L Turbo? I thought it used 3L V6 Turbo.
I was born 1980. I watched WRC in the 90's and was fortunate to score a slightly hail-damaged 2.5RS in 1998 while in HS. I modified it and drove the crap out of it until I sold it in the 2000s (I really wish I hadn't). The 22B was my icon going back to when it was released and I irrationally love it over every other car. If I could afford to buy a $300k car, out of all the supercars it would definitely be a 22B. I can even recognize how stupid that is.
Well even it is approven in DiRT 1.
Only roo I'd get. Smart.
Something nice about seeing a Doug review outside again. I get the convenience of using the offices but the outsideness adds something to it I guess
I think the reviewing in the dingy dark basement car park in front of a concrete wall backdrop made his videos looked cheap with low production values. Outside is so much better
I’m surprised people haven’t figured out the 22B naming since it’s so simple.
22 - 2.2L since it’s bigger than the standard 2.0L.
B - Boxer motor
I think Doug needs to make a video compiling all the flimsy cup holders and crown the true World Flimsiest Cup Holder champion
Doug! I had a 01 GC8. That back seat is for 3 (count the belts) and there are more cup holders next to the defroster button on the dash, it folds out… ya missed them 😂
I was staring at it as he pushed the hazard lights
Yeah, saw that too. I was yelling at the screen when he was talking about that, can't believe he missed a cup holder.
you had a gm6 not a gc8
@@bluecomet8416the 2001 Impreza Prototype also has this.
@@swell07_ I thought the later years were gc8s
I know this car. First owner was Akihito Shibata. I met him on business in Hokkaido when he had this car in 1999. Still looks good although too bad the original wing is gone. I wonder how many owners this has had since.
There's something about that Boxer gurgle that always puts a smile on my face.
That retro edit at the beginning confused me and I thought I was just being nostalgic. Doug got me with the edit 😂
Brilliant edit, Demuro-san...😊
One of the best cars ever made imo. My uncle had one about a decade ago and said it was the best car he’s ever owned and the only one he regrets selling
Too bad subaru engines are trash. - from someone that owned a '98 JDM STi.
i knew years ago subaru boxer engine is trash. would get people denying it was. wonder how much money people lose modifying cars
Sounds like he owned a Toyota
The engines are pretty reliable tbf. My dad had a 1999 wrx for 6 years without any trouble. They’ve got a bad reputation because of how most owners treat them
@@kyritix2380 they are cheaply built. they all blow regardless crap you say the ej is flawed design
I've never seen Doug justify so many modifications, especially on such a high end car.
A lot of mods done here are reversible, save for potentially the roll cage (which... why?), but I can't imagine that this is going to sell for near 300k.
First generation Imprezas, regardless of trim, were wonderful cars to drive. The suspension just worked, the car just did what you asked it to. They did especially well on bumpy backroads, just not caring about road irregularities, with no bump steer.
Correction for Doug: the I/C intercooler spray "auto" function is designed to spray water on the intercooler when the engine senses climbing boost levels. The auto spray will discharge water during the boost climb and go for 5 second intervals. Only available on JDM models, but the switches can be recreated for U.S. models. My tuner makes the auto spray modules and the map change switches for changing tuner maps on the fly.
GFY
My Evo 8 had a similar switch that you could program to do similar things I believe.
S209 has the same feature. Someone did the math and it broke down to a significant 3hp jump. Not worth it
@@thebees4371absolutely triggered
@OneIssueVoterI bet you drive your mom's Corolla 😂
I just wish they still made a two-door.
That's nutty. My buddy had one when I was stationed in Groton, CT. It was such a badass car. Never even dreamed it would be worth that much.
The subaru impreza to own is the 1995 version 2 type RA that is the real deal 👌 super rare and the quickest homologation impreza of them all. 22b is very heavy
V2 and v3 had the TD05 or VF22. You could actually chose which turbo you wanted when you bought them new
I'm just over here rocking my WRX swapped shitbox Impreza coupe with about $10k into it. Love my wannabe22b and feeling pretty good about my project!! 😁
Are you going to weld the rear doors shut?
@@MichaelEilers I have a swapped coupe. It has the same basic chassis and doors as the 22b, without the widebody. But it is a factory two door, no rear doors at all.
The 2 doors look great. Even better with a widebody though 😈
No freaking way at 11:57 a rare leaf bug lands on the windshield. Doug reviewing a rare subaru and a leaf bug decides to join in
Cars and Bids has been a real win-win... Doug gets access to more of these rare cars, we get to see more videos about them, and sellers get more awareness and attention on their listings!
That's correct.. the 22B does stand for 2.2L and Bilstein suspension. That car looks like it's one of the 25 made for outside of Japan. The 400 for Japan had different tail lights
Awesome car. Not even close to $300k awesome.
It is if that's what people are paying for them.
I'm sure you know more than all the people who bought one.
especially when you learn it wasn't any faster than the other sti models and parts interchangeable
@@MichaelEilersIndeed. Those who paid $300K might have more money than sense.
What an incredibly tinkered box. Congratulations to the owner: There's no better way to reduce the value of a former collector's item!
It’s his car he can do what he wants to it
@@dannysamsam2467 Well said. Like seriously, how dare this guy spend HIS hard earned cash on a car and drive it, and mod it how HE likes it, gosh, how dare he! /s
I find it hilarious that people think like that and get *genuinely* upset lol. If these people are THIS upset, they should buy it and return it back to stock, they make it sound so easy.
I would be willing to bet some of these mods were done out of necessity due to it potentially being in an accident of some sort. The OEM replacement parts would have to be extremely expensive I imagine. If I had to guess, I bet the car was in an accident where it hit a curb (or something similar) with one side of the wheels, spun around, and took off the rear bumper/spoiler and potentially took out the rear glass as well. It's just a hunch but that could explain why things have been changed either willingly or unwillingly.
@@K_FI_L_Y_P_S_O Exactly. No other reason to replace that rear wing. This car's a beater; it would only scrape into grade 3 at USS
@@K_FI_L_Y_P_S_Othats very interesting.
I love the random location this video is filmed at. Good old Doug, wish he did more like that.
I bought a new ‘04 WRX, had it for 8 years and 100k miles. I lightly modded it and wow was she reliable. Only thing other than maintenance, only replaced driver side fog lamp twice, that’s it. Woman rear ended me and totaled it day before I was gonna sell it. Her insurance gave me $14.5k for it, only $9k less than I paid for it!
This is IT! WHO played rally games knows it’s either Mitsubishi lancer evo or this! Iconic
I believe in Delta Integrale supremacy 🙏
Someone who talks sense
Mm.. yesss yes. Lancer Evo VII & Subaru Impreza STi 22B are indeed iconic. But my personal favorite still is the Peugeot 205
Always love the 22B, lucky enough to get into a 2019 sti
Subaru liked to refer to their rally sucsess with the codes for the cars, for example RB5 refered to Richard Burns no5 car and Subaru them self said the 22b is a hexadecimal reference to the 555 Colin Mcrae car it shared the body shell with. It might look like a basic Impreza (i think that was the point) but the 22b has almost a cult following due to it's Rally pedegree, back in the 90's there was the Subaru - Mitsubishi wars in rallying and they had fans so dedecated there would be fights at events over which manufacture was best.
I had a 2000 Impreza 2.5RS for a few years, it was a very fun car. The 22B styling is great, but I'm sad the prices are so expensive because I doubt that people who pay that much will be able to enjoy driving their Subaru the way I got to enjoy driving mine.
I memorized when these would show up in the used car dealer in Gran Turismo 4 because they were the best Subaru in the game (in my opinion). Try to find an Evo VI Tommi Makinen Edition next! They were really crazy, with the titanium turbocharger and stuff.
This 22B is a bit odd. Removing the wheels, wing, gear knob and steering wheel, all items that command an incredibly high price used, and replacing them with non OEM units, as well as having a roll cage, kind of makes this too modified to be considered easy to return to factory in my opinion. If it were my money I'd buy a completely stock one, or just buy a V4 STI Type R for a fraction of the price.
As Doug points out though, you could happily daily this, knowing that you weren't going to hurt the value as much doing so. And personally I'd only buy a car to drive it.
@@phuzz00 Why would anyone daily a car like that? At this point almost everything japanese from the 90s is so overpriced. Maybe it’s worth as an investment (until the bubble bursts) but as a daily you’ll get much more bang for your buck spending it on practically anything else.
There could be a reason for these parts missing 🤔 maybe the parts where stolen or broken along the way
5:30 I love the knee support on the ground :D
for those who want a next super iconic subaru - take a look at JDM 2005 WRX STi Spec C type RA-R. the highest performance classic subaru contains all the best features subaru was ever made. lightened, very limited and very rare.
I'd want to check the history of this car before bidding on it. I have a suspicion wheels and wings are replaced because the originals were damaged somehow.
Agreed. Why on earth would someone change out those perfect factory parts for some inferior aftermarket ones? Because they were damaged and you can’t find them again.
This is proof that there is 100% a car valuation bubble.
I think there were only 500 yellow Volvo 850 T5-R cars brought into America (or wagons, I forget) but those aren't valued crazy high like this Subaru.
I guess collectors are willing to pay.
I would be shocked if a 22b ever dipped below £300k, i understand people outside europe won't get it but anything attached to Mcrae and wrx will have an almost cult following.
I love the deep, throaty sound of the 22B. One of the best sounding cars of all time.
Brah. I straight up dropped my vape pen into the puddle of oil from the leaking head gasket when I saw this.
This car is a legend in my book
and anyone is suppsoed care about "your book"?
@@slowery43 that wasn’t very nice! Go to timeout
The 22B STi is special only because of it's low production numbers of barely over 400 units total made. The 22B club in Japan still meets to this day at a Subaru dealership which was started by one of the 1st 22B owners. The 22B was a vast leap in automotive and rally technology. However, I will still stand by Richard Hammond's statement of the GD chassis being the best ever built by Subaru. I may be bias because I own one, but the driver/machine connection is much more raw and pure than that of the newer models without a doubt.
Because of safety standards none of the other chassis ever had the chance to be as raw as the GD
@@bradydevergilio7478I can say with all confidence that you have a massive point in your statement. The advancement in the manual transmission/transfer case dccd control of the 2004 - 2007 STi GD chassis were a helping hand to handle excessive power applications, and it did it surprisingly well. I've seen stock drivetrains handle 700whp without issue. The added safety did tend to weigh the vehicle down a bit as the newer models from 2008 - to current have been redesigned and heavier crash protection systems have been implemented since the days of the GD.
he 22B was a vast leap in automotive and rally technology? it never won any rallies. 22b never competed
The rarity factor is hilarious in what people will pay. I can draw a one of a kind art piece, literally 1 of 1, and it won't be worth anything, but some things people will pay thru the nose for based mostly on rarity. It's an interesting quirk of the human thought process.
@@mattm7798 not if you don’t suck at art lol, dumb point that’s trying to be made
Doug missed one other cup holder in the dash, just under the vent. This is the worlds most flimsy cup holder because it just hangs out the all on its own.
I just watched this video for the first time, and man i have to mention you seem especially happy driving this car.
Anyone notice the resprayed front upper radiator support, it should be a darker non metallic plain ol' blue, and also the other vin plate on drivers side is missing on strut housing, is this a mock up with a plaque purchased from ebay #0000.1 of 400 ?! lol
There’s a second fold out cup holder beside the Hazard light and demister switch. Equally as flimsy and cold drinks condensation drips right onto the radio
Hazard lights and demister switches?
Yes
And JDM models had a dual cup holder there, while other had only one there.
The best and only Impreaza that should ever exsist!
The intercooler water spray wasn't made just for the 22b. It's in a lot of stis. My 2005 blobeye has it. And has the same 2 part center storage
The Stereo is not aftermarket. It is a stock Subaru tape deck with CD changer by Kenwood
I never saw the 22B outperform any of the evos or base STi's. It's actually heavier than the other gc8s, so you're just paying for the rarity. If you wanted the best performing gc8, you got the Type RAs
Let’s congratulate the owner for making the car cheaper to buy with these modifications
Love this type of homologated style with wide fenders. It’s a subtle but purposeful look. Very clean.
Nice to see people actually driving and enjoying the car👍
11:48 Doug is the kind of guy who can charm the birds from the trees... to watch them go "thud" on his car's window.
Fun fact, the 22b name is hexidecimal of 555, Subaru's primary sponsor in the WRC at the time.
Sti stands for sexual transmitted illness from 22 boys or 22b
#22b is -also- blue color code.
2.2 boxer
I have a 2007 impresa 2.5i manual shift and I love it such a fun car to dive.
I can’t believe that Doug is STILL the type of guy to wear a white tshirt under his dark tshirt. The style will never change for old Doug. Never change Doug.
Hands down one of my favorite cars of all time. Sadly, seems like the price has launched this into the unobtainable stratosphere.
How dare they modded such a iconic car...
Yeah, how dare that guy who spent HIS money on it do what he wants with it!!!! How dare he drive it, devaluing it!!!! Such a dumb comment honestly.
I guess by 2005 this was a $25,000 car and not a $250,000 car so modding it wouldn’t have seemed so crazy
I respect the owner's choice but I think these will turn out to be the most expensive modifications in history 😂
@@Gobbbbbexplain changing the wing tho. Probably wrecked
It's a typical Japanese thing...unfortunately. I dealt with this often questionable (also form the technical point of view) mods in almost any car imported form Japan, they have to screw even the rarest cars at least with some fancy aftermarket radio.
Everyone: Impreza
Doug: Imprezza
Total dream car when i was young. What a freaking gem.
Only one mistake. The Subaru Brat is clearly the most iconic Subaru of all time!
SVX
Hey Doug! At 8:05 you mentioned the naming and "why it is called 22b". The one theory I read a couple of years ago, is that 22b is "555" in hexadecimal.
555 Being a brand from British American Tobacco which sponsored the Subaru WRC program back in the day. It makes even more sense when you consider that the 22b was sort of a homologation special, allowing Subaru to use a wider track and bigger engine in the "World Rally Car class" of WRC.
So, in other words, Subaru named the 22b after the company that allowed them to "have the 22b" in the first place
Correct
... its 22b because its a 2.2l boxer engine
THIS is the best looking car Subaru has ever made. They broke the mold with this car. It's not even about performance, it's just a beautiful little car.
To me, one of the coolest cars ever, no exceptions. Just awesome.
I'm excited to learn more about the 22B, I loved racing mine around England in FH4❤ It was one of the barn find cars😊
Can't say I'd be all that happy about picking up an STI... 😂
I've never turned my head harder after a car than when I saw a 22B. Shocked and stunned. And so glad I had time to recognize it. Would have been easy to miss.
125 hp was a gentlemans agreement in the motorcycle world much like 155 mph for cars. "plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose".
There is absolutely zero reason to switch out the OEM adjustable rear wing for an aftermarket one that looks almost idential, and I can think of thousands (literally) of reasons not to. I'm betting this car was in an accident which damaged the rear wing and the owners couldn't afford to replace it with the OEM one from Subaru. Maybe the same is true for the wheels.
Or possibly a different 22B got damaged, and the parts were robbed off this one to rebuild it.
I don't mind most of the modifications because they seem period correct, but the replacement wing is baffling to me. Maybe this thing was in a serious rear end collision that broke the wing beyond repair. I'll be watching the auction because I'm curious what this will go for.
Passenger door color doesnt seem to match the front fender as well but it could be lighting. This car is just a little fishy hopefully the new owner gets it fully inspected
The Subie we all wanted, and still want today.
The first new car I bought with my own money was a Forest Green 1993 Subaru Impreza Wagon. I drove it for about 6 years and put around 100k miles on it. Those do not sell now for 300k.
22B - 2.2 boxer 👌
Sti stands for sexual transmitted illness from 22 boys or 22b
Makes all the sense to me.
Here in the UK that’s what it was known (officially) as 👌 I came across one at a salvage yard in around 2000 with left corner damage (moderate by today’s standards) for £15 K 😮😮
The perfect match for a solid gold vape pen.
Getabalist thanks for the new words. Appreciate all you have done Doug.
right next to the hazard light button is a pull out cup holder, so its got two! true luxury and pampering!
If I had to guess, I’d say 22B stands for 2.2 Boxer, to reference the larger engine
Never heard that explanation. It was always explained as 22b = hidden tobacco advertising as a homage to the rally cars. 22b in hex is 555.
@@RichHerdsCats that would be a pretty cool explanation too
@@RichHerdsCats doubt they would name the car after a cigarette 2.2 b for turbo
@@hassyg4083well the whole car is already a cigarette packet, given that the famous Subaru colour combination of blue and gold comes from the 555 logo.
@@RichHerdsCats if they wanted it named 555 they would have
I love my 22B.
The 1/18 model I bought from Mont Models is so cool. It sits on my desk at work.
For 300k I’ll consider a Gtr nismo, corvette c8 z06…… so many different rides to choose from
😂 Thank you - you’ve really made me laugh because you started out so well by correctly implying there are much better or exotic cars out there for $300k, and then proceeded to list yet more overhyped and baseball-cap-reversed “street racer” cars that are equally terrible value at anything over $100k!
Had the chance of seeing a 22b STi in person at a Car show in Nz when these were just hot off the press ( Nz are so relaxed with many MANY Japanese import Cars ) and knew all those years ago that this 22b would be stupidly expensive in 20-30years time.... and didn't disappoint lol
Doug's the type of guy to review the same car twice
You mean he reviewed it before? Goddamn it..😮