I would never go back to Italy if I was her and what kind of punishment can Italy do to her since their highest court released her and she is living in the United States.
@@joebidet2050 doesn't mean much, I remember in the 2000s during the whole catholic priest scandal, a Florida priest went back to Italy and italy refused to extradite him back to the US. Nothing ever happened
The Italian government was totally fixated on her, it's like they have a vendetta against her and are trying find any reason to save face because the Italian police totally messed up this investigation.
@@misanthropicmusings4596no she’s not. The authorities in Italy coerced a bunch of different statements from her and she was under duress at the time. She didn’t slander anyone or commit any crimes. This is all on the Italian police.
Ridiculous ... so she's being sued for slander for pointing her INNOCENT finger at another, but the Italian proscutor who locked her up is not being sued for slander? GTFOH
The European court of human rights decided that the slander conviction violated her human rights, so Italy had to reopen the case, and the court will now almost certainly acquit her of slander. Knox will have filed the complaint with the European court of human rights herself, so this is exactly what she wanted, and it will likely clear her name also in respect of the slander accusation.
@@melgrant7404 the Italian prosecutor was too busy putting a case together against an innocent duo who were only dating for one week at the time of the murder. The Italian prosecutor shouldn't be prosecuting as he's too lazy to actually find the real killer who was right in front of him the entire time.
Do you live in the US? I live in the UK, your media fed you different information than we got in the UK. Amanda Knox & her then boyfriend have been lying their backsides off since 2nd November 2007.
This is precisely why double jeopardy exists in the U.S. legal system, so the prosecution can't keep trying you until they get the verdict that they want.
In high profile cases has been a way in the U.S. to get around the prohibition of double jeopardy by recharging individuals previously found not guilty with the different crime of "violating the civil rights" of someone by harming or killing them. That was used down south during the 1960's by the Federal government to retry racists for murder that were previously cleared by biased all white juries of local townspeople and to retry law enforcement officers for the beating of Rodney King during the 1990's that the previous not guilty verdict caused the LA rights.
Don’t know if she’s done it or not , one thing for sure the Italian police completely messed up the investigation from day 1 and are responsible for not being able to put the killer behind bars.
She was involved. There was so much evidence against her. Her rich boyfriend's dad took care of everything in the end to get them exonerated. I followed that case extremely closely for years. I was involved online with a group who actually sent people there right after it happened to take measurements, photos, do interviews, and research. I'm convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that she was involved.
@TrueSeed-ft1jn , it's now been so long since it happened. I was online discussing and reading EVERY day for years. Now I've tried to forget a lot of it because I'm certain justice was not served. I was so disappointed when only Rudy went to prison and not the other two perps.
This has nothing to do with the murder itself. She is definitively acquitted of that. Knox, not Italy, initiated this trial when she appealed her lone remaining conviction for defamation against her former boss. HER appeal was granted and the defamation conviction was annulled with referral to a new trial. The new trial cannot use her two statements implicating Lumumba that she signed during the interrogation as the ECHR held they were taken when her civil rights to a lawyer and impartial interpreter were violated. Without those, she will likely be acquitted.
Always better than the barbaric, death penalty ruled and RACIST oriented american "Justice" = if you have money enough, you can escape every crime! Even with corruption or paying the american "bail", only existing in your corrupt country!
Yes, Lumumba said about Amanda that she has no soul. She has now once again lost the defamation case in an Italian court and due to her personal attendance at that trial she has now become even worse hated by Italian MSM. If Amada decides to appeal this verdict she'll go down in history as a very unpleasant woman, to say the least. Besides she'll now have to pay all court fees and her lawyer as well. She also takes the risk of being sued by Lumumba.
So all victims of crimes and misshandled justice who happen to become speakers, write books, make movies, make series, make documentaries, creaste organizations that help, etc, they are not making money of of their tragedy?
2:30 - "On social media, Knox calling her new trial, 'a good thing', and 'a chance to prove her innocence once and for all'". She has a lot more faith in the messed up Italian justice system than me after seeing what they did to her the first time around. I simply can't imagine why she would ever risk going there again, or any American for that matter.
"I simply can't imagine why she would ever risk going there again, or any American for that matter". Coming from a country who has the largest prison population in the world
@@phunkboxx she was released due to heavily, political american pressures. Italy is in the NATO and is substantially, an "american" colony (with american bases etc.). At least Italy has NOT the death penalty as you have, in American you have over 22.000 murders per year, Italy just 300, as is the SAFEST european country, except when some rotten american goes there thinking he can do whatever he wants to!
Anything Amanda Knox utters should be ' taken with a grain of salt', I don't believe a word she says, or that she cannot remember. Doesn't want to remember, would be closer to the truth. Meredith is the victim, not Amanda, though she likes to think she is.
@@sjordan7085 Meredith is definitely the victim - of Rudy Guede. Amanda Knox had nothing at all to do with it. In the USA she would never have even been charged based on such flimsy "evidence". As a matter of fact, the investigators might have been charged with crimes instead of her.
That's sad. Italy is a gorgeous country full of history and culture. That's like someone saying they'd never visit the US because a person was wrongfully imprisoned here.
@@melgrant7404 You mean the two statements she signed during an unrecorded interrogation where her rights to a lawyer and an impartial interpreter were violated and ruled inadmissible in the new trial as evidence? The interrogation where the interrogator, not Knox, brought up Lumumba and then admitted she jumped to the wrong conclusion about the text? The one where she erroneously believed Knox was confirming a meeting with him the night of the murder? The ones Chief of Police de Felice announced where Knox finally "buckled and made an admission of facts we knew were correct and from that we were able to bring them in"? LOL. De Felice is admitting they believed Lumumba was involved from the moment Ficarra (mis)read that text despite Knox's denials. If you were intellectually honest, you'd admit that. But you aren't.
@@Nayr747 there’s a big beautiful world out there full of interesting people and you want to stay in your room in ‘Murica. Its like being stuck in a cage with the door open. A place that’s often far more dangerous and disgusting than a lot of other places - but you’ll never know that, because you’ve never dared go anywhere.
@@Hvrtjff I've probably traveled more than you. But it's arrogant to think that everyone has to live your life or they're not good enough. Some people are happier than you will ever be just doing their own thing at home. Not everyone is you.
Amanda Knox was EXONERATED by Italy's Supreme Court. She was not present at the house when her roommate was tragically murdered by Rudy Guede. She is an exoneree, meaning she never should have been charged in the first place. The scant evidence the police claim they had was badly mishandled. Knox was interrogated for extended periods of time...without being allowed to have an attorney present. She was not allowed to use the bathroom.
No. She was justifiably convicted *twice.* Power, money, and influence got her out of that prison. Trump helped! Just goes to show how good his judgment is. 🙄
She never would have falsely implicated the bartender if neighborhood eyewitnesses hadn't seen a Black guy climbing through windows over the previous weeks, and if police hadn't been feeding Amanda that info and trying to get her to "be a good-'ol-boy" by falsely accusing the bartender. So Amanda deserves to go to jail for that, but so do the police who coerced her false accusation.
bah, she just wants headlines to sell another book and then complain about all the attention she, herself, has garnered - She might have even made a preemptive deal with Nancy Grace
Amanda Knox was EXONERATED by Italy's Supreme Court. She was not present at the house when her roommate was tragically murdered by Rudy Guede. She is an exoneree, meaning she never should have been charged in the first place. The scant evidence the police claim they had was badly mishandled. Knox was interrogated for extended periods of time...without being allowed to have an attorney present. She was not allowed to use the bathroom.
@@janetpartyka5968 she got away because she was not involved in the murder. She was innocent. If you know the case, there is no doubt. Rudy Guede committed the murder, Amanda had no connection to him. She was not there. Only in the imagination of a sexually perverted Italian prosecutor was she involved in the murder.
In order to believe that Knox and Sollecito are innocent, you have to overlook the following: Knox's accusation against her employer, a claim she made after less than TWO HOURS of being interviewed (not 40, like Team Knox would have you believe - this is a proven fact) and stuck to for 3 weeks, letting her innocent boss rot in jail all the while. The fact that Meredith Kercher’s blood was found mixed inside Knox’s fresh DNA in 5 different spots in the bathroom. The fact the Knox was bleeding on the day of the murder, and left blood smeared in the bathroom, blood which she herself admits was not there the day before. Sollecito’s DNA on Meredith’s bra clasp - with a 16 loci match, the probability that the DNA belongs to someone else is one in a trillion, and with only ONE other DNA trace of him in the cottage (cigarette butt) the idea of contamination is near impossible. Knox’s DNA on the handle of the murder weapon and Meredith’s on the blade. Sollectio tried to explain this by saying he had accidentally pricked Meredith with his knife while she had been at his house. She had never been there. The THREE sets of bloody footprints, one a match for Guede, one a match for Sollecito, and one in Knox’s size, in her own DNA, mixed with Meredith’s. The single bloody footprint on the bathmat, which is a perfect match for Sollecito, and also, being the only bloody footprint with no others around it, is undisputed proof a clean up happened. The blatantly staged crime scene, with glass on TOP of the clothes strewn around, a near impossible window entry point, and not a single trace of Guede anywhere in that room, not to mention the fact Knox and Sollecito ‘knew’ nothing had been taken before anyone had even looked. The fact that Guede’s footprints lead right out Meredith’s room out the front door and he has an alibi for the rest of the night, meaning we KNOW it wasn’t Guede who returned to the scene hours later, staged a burglary, cleaned up and moved the body. The fact that Knox’s lamp was found in Meredith’s room with no fingerprints whatsoever - more proof of a clean up. The incredible amount of changes in her account before, during, and after she was arrested. Total lack of alibi after multiple attempts, and then Sollecito withdrawing his alibi for her. Her dubious account of her activity the morning after the murder, including her lies about Meredith’s locked door, her reaction to the blood, and the contradictions to this she makes in her testimony, email home, and in her book. The fact Knox knew several details about her murder she could not possibly have known: cause of death, position of body, that there had been more than one attacker, that Meredith had been assaulted etc. The frantic call she made to her mother in the middle of the night that she ‘forgets’ making. The witness who saw her and Sollecito by the cottage on the murder night. The shopkeeper who saw her when she claimed to be in her bed sleeping. Her overall behaviour after the murder. And I can go on, and on, and on. My point is that, whatever opinion people have as to their guilty or innocence, there is enough evidence to convict, and however many times those claims of “no evidence" are repeated, it doesn't make it true.
In order to believe that Knox and Sollecito are innocent, you have to overlook the following: *No you have to understand that they are all baloney, questionable, or downright lies Knox's accusation against her employer, a claim she made after less than TWO HOURS of being interviewed (not 40, like Team Knox would have you believe - this is a proven fact) and stuck to for 3 weeks, letting her innocent boss rot in jail all the while. *No, Amanda was interrogated for 53 hours in total from the 2nd November until 6th November when Lumumba was implicated due to mulitple human right and domestic laws abuses. The fact that Meredith Kercher’s blood was found mixed inside Knox’s fresh DNA in 5 different spots in the bathroom. *Erm no! You don't get blood INSIDE anyones DNA. You are talking baloney. The DNA can't be proven to be "fresh" as Stefanoni herself indicated in court. The fact the Knox was bleeding on the day of the murder, and left blood smeared in the bathroom, blood which she herself admits was not there the day before. *A tiny amount of Amanda's blood was found on the tap that might not have been noticed the day before. It was due to an infected ear piercing. The court failed to prove otherwise. Sollecito’s DNA on Meredith’s bra clasp - with a 16 loci match, the probability that the DNA belongs to someone else is one in a trillion, and with only ONE other DNA trace of him in the cottage (cigarette butt) the idea of contamination is near impossible. *The bra-clasp was thrown out by the supreme court as an "item of no evidential value" due to probable contamination. Your boat has sailed. Knox’s DNA on the handle of the murder weapon and Meredith’s on the blade. Sollectio tried to explain this by saying he had accidentally pricked Meredith with his knife while she had been at his house. She had never been there. *The supreme court concluded that Meredith's DNA trace (36b) would not have been decisive in court due to the fact that "it was not a blood trace". What Raffaele said about it is irrelevant. Amanda's DNA was to be expected since she used the knife for domestic purposes. The THREE sets of bloody footprints, one a match for Guede, one a match for Sollecito, and one in Knox’s size, in her own DNA, mixed with Meredith’s. *No there wasn't. YOU'RE LYING! Read the motivation report. The single bloody footprint on the bathmat, which is a perfect match for Sollecito, and also, being the only bloody footprint with no others around it, is undisputed proof a clean up happened. *The evidence was thrown out by the supreme court as unreliable. The blatantly staged crime scene, with glass on TOP of the clothes strewn around, a near impossible window entry point, and not a single trace of Guede anywhere in that room, not to mention the fact Knox and Sollecito ‘knew’ nothing had been taken before anyone had even looked. *No photographs showed glass on top of clothing. The entry point has been demonstrated twice, once by defence lawyer Delfo Beretti and once by climbing enthusiast Ricardo Pinella. Amanda saw that Filomena's valuable laptop and camera had not been taken. It was translated by Raffaele to mean that nothing had been taken. No traces were found of Rudy due to the fact the the police were totally negligent in falsely assuming that the breaking in was staged. The supreme court described their incompetence as "investigative amnesia" The fact that Guede’s footprints lead right out Meredith’s room out the front door and he has an alibi for the rest of the night, meaning we KNOW it wasn’t Guede who returned to the scene hours later, staged a burglary, cleaned up and moved the body. *No they didn't Rudy's footprints very likely emerged from the bathroom and they faded out before reaching the front door. No one came back and cleaned up or moved the body, nor did the supreme court conclude any such thing. In fact they rubbished the idea of a posthumous clean-up multiple times in the motivation report. I suggest you read it. The fact that Knox’s lamp was found in Meredith’s room with no fingerprints whatsoever - more proof of a clean up. *No one knows with any certainty how the lamp got into Meredith's room, least of all you. There is no evidence that the lamp was cleaned of fingerprints. It's baloney! The incredible amount of changes in her account before, during, and after she was arrested. *Both K&S changed there stories under police pressure, intimidation and human rights abuses. Once these abuses were removed the both reverted back to their original stories that the were at Raffaele's flat during the murder. Total lack of alibi after multiple attempts, and then Sollecito withdrawing his alibi for her. *Raffaele didn't withdraw his alibi. It was coerced by abusive cops who wouldn't allow him to access the calander on the wall The depostion was unusable in court against him. The depostion doesn't contain a shred of reliable evidence and is more likely to be the events of Halloween, not the night of the murder. Her dubious account of her activity the morning after the murder, including her lies about Meredith’s locked door, her reaction to the blood, and the contradictions to this she makes in her testimony, email home, and in her book. *What lies about Meredith's door? She misunderstood Filomena's rapid fire Italian that's all. What about the rest? You cite nothing incriminating. The fact Knox knew several details about her murder she could not possibly have known: cause of death, position of body, that there had been more than one attacker, that Meredith had been assaulted etc. *Baloney! K&S were told of the details of the murder en route to the questura by Luca Altieri and Paolo Grande who testified that they got the information from the medical team that attended Meredith's body. The frantic call she made to her mother in the middle of the night that she ‘forgets’ making. *To be accurate Amanda didn't call during the night, it was shortly after noon when she phoned her mother. It was night when her mother received the call. The witness who saw her and Sollecito by the cottage on the murder night. *Curatolo? His testimony was thrown out by the supreme court as being totally addled and unreliable. The shopkeeper who saw her when she claimed to be in her bed sleeping. *Quintavalle's testimony was thrown out as unreliable by the supreme court. Her overall behaviour after the murder. *Her overall behaviour was not to try to flee but to stay and be as helpful to the police as possible. She had the choice to leave Italy but her Mother decided that she would come to Italy in order to be supportive. The invesigators exploited her trust. And I can go on, and on, and on. My point is that, whatever opinion people have as to their guilty or innocence, there is enough evidence to convict, and however many times those claims of “no evidence" are repeated, it doesn't make it true. *Yes, you could go on and on but it would be just a regurgitation of the same old baloney. No there isn't enough to convict, that's why K&S were acquitted. It doesn't matter how many times you recycle your list of lies and factoids it's not going to make you any more credible. In fact I don't think you've even got the gumption to defend any of your lies
@@TGcomments Mike Hunt is one of Les Grossman's many sock puppets. He's been copying and pasting the same exact crap for years. He's a troll. He never provides evidence for any of his long lists of lies. He posts his crap and disappears only to repeat it the same thing elsewhere.
@@TGcomments BREAKING: Amanda Knox (@amandaknox ), who falsely accused Patrick Lumumba, a Congolese man, of the murder of British exchange student Meredith Kercher in Italy in 2007, has been re-convicted of slander. Lumumba had been kind to her, giving her a part-time job. However, she deliberately lied about him to exonerate herself and later blamed police pressure. The court has just reconvicted her.
@@TGcomments BREAKING: Amanda Knox (@amandaknox ), who falsely accused Patrick Lumumba, a Congolese man, of the murder of British exchange student Meredith Kercher in Italy in 2007, has been re-convicted of slander. Lumumba had been kind to her, giving her a part-time job. However, she deliberately lied about him to exonerate herself and later blamed police pressure. The court has just reconvicted her. lol
@@alabama.worley Only to those who are blinded by their own "she's guilty" bias and prejudice which is usually due to lack of knowledge of the case or inability to admit they're wrong. Knox has led a totally normal life for the last 13 years, getting married, having children, working and never in trouble. That is not a psychopath.
I remember this so well because my daughter was studying abroad and I thought this could happen to any of our children. I never thought she was guilty and that the Italian government were like a dog with a bone and wouldn't let go. Their judicial system is a joke and this case was so mishandled from the beginning They do not know how to do a professional and thourough murder investigation. They put her in jail for 4 years and slandered her reputation and gave her crappy legal representation. I would never, ever return to Italy and would have this process done via Zoom or a legal representative. I hear nothing but terrible things about Italy's government and health care system.
The World Health Organization (WHO) ranked the Italian healthcare system among the best in the world, after the French healthcare system. Italians enjoy the 7th highest life expectancy in the world, as well as very low levels of infant mortality. Of all countries in 2020, the United States possessed the highest infant mortality rate at 5.4 deaths per 1000 live births, which is markedly higher than the 1.6 deaths per 1000 live births in Norway, which has the the lowest mortality rate. U.S. life expectancy was 76 years in 2021, according to data from the World Bank, ranking it approximately 60th in the world for life expectancy, behind countries like Estonia and Saudi Arabia.
Amanda Knox was found outside the cottage with a mop and bucket whispering embarrassed to be seen with her boyfriend. The postal police were there to return phones to her two roommates only Meredith was dead behind the door so Raphael called police after postal police were already there. It was when confronted about this reality that he turned on Amanda Knox - for two innocents they sure have acted oddly never again telling the same story. They were charged with murder because they committed murder. Amanda Knox was freed during the days of Obama. Donald Trump saying she was innocent- this was back before the media turned on him he was simply lied to like everyone else.
1) "Amanda Knox was found outside the cottage with a mop and bucket whispering embarrassed to be seen with her boyfriend." Looks like you've fallen for the lies spewed by TJMK's Peter Quennell who originated the "found outside the cottage with a mop and bucket" lie. Neither of your claims is backed up with an iota of evidence. In fact, neither of the two first responding officers, Battistelli and Marzi, testified to seeing any mop or bucket outside: Testimony of Off. M. Battistelli Feb 6. 2009: PROSECUTOR - Well, when you arrived, what did you see when you arrived, who was there? WITNESS - When I arrived, the two young people sitting... PROSECUTOR - The two young people, that is, the two defendants? WITNESS - The two defendants, yes, were sitting in front of the windows of the house where there is... PROSECUTOR - Oh, in front, that is, where exactly were they? WITNESS: They were standing near the corner, where the fence meets the corner, just in front of the windows. No mention of any mop or bucket. Nor did they say Knox was "whispering embarrassed to be seen with her boyfriend." PROSECUTOR - Listen, when you started talking to them... WITNESS - Yes. PROSECUTOR - As they spoke, they were... WITNESS - They were quite awkward I noticed, they were quite surprised. ["imbarazzanti" means 'awkward/embarrassed/uncomfortable'] PROSECUTOR: But were they talking, I mean, let's say were they mumbling a little, or was it normal speech? [the verb used was "farfugliare" which means to mumble/slur, it does NOT mean "to whisper"] (Defense objects to judge that witness cannot make judgment calls, only report facts. Judge agrees and asks if the two waved or moved their hands) WITNESS: No, in that respect, no, they were calm, it's not that they were gesticulating nervously. PROSECUTOR - What was the appearance a little... You first said they looked awkward, that is... WITNESS - Yes, surprised, let's say more than anything else surprised. DEFENSE LAWYER BONGIORNO - Mr. President, we are continuing with the judgments. PRESIDENT: Of course, judgments cannot be taken into account. This surprise that you say, how they had shown it, what objective behavior that you... WITNESS - No, they didn't have any particular behavior. As I repeat, I had that impression, but they spoke softly, they spoke softly, they were enough... PRESIDENT: They spoke in low voices (parlavano sottovoce) and this is an objective fact that we collect. Please (Continue). ["Parlavano sottovoce" means to "talk softly/ in low voices/whisper". In English, "whispering" can imply being furtive or just talking softly] 2) " Raphael called police after postal police were already there." False. As both Massei (Corte di Assise of first level) and Hellmann concluded, he called police BEFORE the postal police arrived: From the Hellmann Report: "There has been much discussion on whether the call to 112 happened before or after the arrival of the Police, with it having been hypothesized by the Public Minister that the call to the Carabinieri at 112 had been made on seeing the arrival of the Police, just to validate the notion [tesi] of their innocence. Except that even the Corte di Assise of first level, on the basis of the testimony given by the on-duty Police personnel and of the times reproduced from the logs, arrived at the conclusion that these calls had been made before the arrival of the Police and unaware of their imminent arrival." 3) " for two innocents they sure have acted oddly never again telling the same story. " Incredible! I suggest you read Knox's pre- and post-interrogation depositions, two memoriales and her book. They are the same story. You've obviously never read Sollecito's depositions or his book or read his lawyers' arguments in court! 4) " Amanda Knox was freed during the days of Obama." AND? Did Obama control the Italian judiciary? Did he get TWO judges and SIX lay jurors to acquit someone they thought was really guilty? Did he get two, independent Italian forensic experts to discredit the bra hook and knife evidence? Did Obama get Curatolo to claim he saw Knox and Sollecito on HALLOWEEN night? Good lord. 5) "Donald Trump saying she was innocent- this was back before the media turned on him he was simply lied to like everyone else." I thought your statement about Obama was nuts, but this one explains it all! 🥜🥜
A young woman was brutally murdered and people’s only concern is for this nutcase not getting in any more bother. If Meredith were American, the context of how you all talk about this would totally change and you know. Utterly disgraceful.
She has, several times. Knox has said she would like to contact Meredith Kercher's family to let them know how sorry she is for the murder and loss of her housemate.
And I bet you know absolutely nothing about why that happened. Or that she recanted the same day and again the next day...both of which the police ignored.
@@Helenwheels370 and were you there.no. who accuses an innocent man.she is full of excuses. It was this it was because that.i don't buy it. She wasn't tortured.
Were you there? No. What police don't record the interrogation of someone they already believe is involved in the murder ? What police don't even bother to make a transcript of what questions were asked and how the suspect answered? What police write up statements in a language the suspect doesn't understand and have her sign them? What police violate a suspect's civil rights by denying them a lawyer and an impartial interpreter and fail to investigate a suspect's claims of being smacked on the head as found by the ECHR? Answer: the Perugia police on Nov. 5/6 , 2007. Saul Kassin is the world's leading expert of false confessions. His opinion? Knox was coerced into believing she had amnesia and was intimidated through fear, stress, and exhaustion into agreeing to what the police were telling her "really" happened.
@@GH-oi2jf the three of them were there that night. Her boyfriend's father's money and influence got her and his son off and the whole blame was placed on Rudy.
There was overwhelming forensic evidence of O.J. at the murder scene, including his blood. There were fresh cuts on his hands. Both victims' blood was found on the outside and inside of O.J.'s Bronco. Nicole's blood was found on O.J.'s socks in his bedroom. And much more. O.J. had a documented history of domestic violence by him toward Nicole. So, if Knox is the female O.J., what evidence is there against her? Be specific.
@@mikethespike7579 Italy justice system has 3 grades of judgement (america just 2) and is absolutely not so severe towards criminals, no death penalty and rarely the life sentence. Italians complain that murderers go out from prison just after 10 years, the EXACT OPPOSITE of the ignorant tra..sh you are saying about Italy!
@@commenter4190 So, you accuse me of ignorant trash because I have a different opinion. Do you talk like that to your friends, family and colleagues? Grow up first and become an adult before you post infantile comments to people you don't know and maybe you'll start to be taken seriously.
Most of the comments show people do not understand what this trial is and is not. KNOX WANTED THIS TRIAL, NOT ITALY. KNOX APPEALED her only remaining conviction in Italy. She was cleared of the murder in 2015 but the slander (calunnia) conviction against her former boss, Patrick Lumumba, remained. A new law in Italy allows definitive convictions to be annulled and retried if the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) finds a conviction was unfair due to a person's civil rights being violated. The ECHR found in 2019 that Italy had violated her right to a lawyer and to an impartial interpreter during her interrogation. Knox then appealed to Italy's Supreme Court which annulled her slander conviction and ordered a new trial. In that trial, the prosecution cannot use against her the two statements signed during that interrogation accusing Lumumba. They can only use her Nov. 6 written letter which she gave the police a few hours after the interrogation. In that, she wrote "I want to make clear that I'm very doubtful of the veritity [sic] of my statements because they were made under the pressures of stress, shock and extreme exhaustion. Not only was I told I would be arrested and put in jail for 30 years, but I was also hit in the head when I didn't remember a fact correctly." and "I also know that the fact that I can't fully recall the events that I claim took place at Raffaele's home during the time that Meredith was murdered is incriminating. And I stand by my statements that I made last night about events that could have taken place in my home with Patrik, but I want to make very clear that these events seem more unreal to me than what I said before, that I stayed at Raffaele's house." She asked, "2. Why did I think of Patrik? 3. Is the evidence proving my pressance [sic] at the time and place of the crime reliable? If so, what does this say about my memory? Is it reliable?" She was clearly telling them that she didn't know for sure what happened, if Lumumba was there or not. But the police ignored it. If acquitted, Knox will have no convictions remaining and the monetary award given to Lumumba will also be cancelled. If convicted, she cannot, under Italian law, be sentenced to additional prison time as she already served 3 years for that conviction. This is NOT Italy going after Knox. This is Knox going after Italy.
Because mad stabbers show signs of being mad stabbers long before they become mad stabbers. And we know because there are a lot If mad stabbers here. No criminal record, no history of psychopathy. That why
Because suburban hobbits and gentrified hillbillies just do not have self-awareness (it's simply not taught in their society), and can never see what's wrong with themselves or those in their company. And then they "move on", and have relationships and reproduce shamelessly.
She didn't write anything. The Italian police wrote up her alleged statements and had her sign them. They've been thrown out as evidence and can't be used against her as they were taken illegally.
Which ever documentary you watch about this case, they ALL start with the Polizia impression that Knox was not sad/emotional enough…about the murder off a person she was a new roommate with and barely knew.
Amanda Knox was EXONERATED by Italy's Supreme Court. She was not present at the house when her roommate was tragically murdered by Rudy Guede. She is an exoneree, meaning she never should have been charged in the first place. The scant evidence the police claim they had was badly mishandled. Knox was interrogated for extended periods of time...without being allowed to have an attorney present. She was not allowed to use the bathroom.
@@rachelross1657 and Rudy? Remember initially he never mentioned anyone else only after being enticed with a shorter sentence did he link himself to Amanda and her boyfriend. The investigator gave Rudy the cues and clues. Get it straight!
You do not know the facts of the case if you think that. You do know the actual killer, who served 13 years for the murder, is black? Literally under the bus? What? She picked him up and tossed him under the tires?
@@missasinenominethere is a decent amount of physical evidence that could suggest she was involved along with Rudi. Not saying she is, but there is an argument to be made and it’s not a clear cut case of innocence as it’s portrayed.
If I were her, I would never return to Italy ever. Ever. Ever.
She’s been exonerated so I’m pretty sure they can’t jail her for the murder of Meredith Kercher.
I agree. I would stay far far away. Im shocked she returned
@@drtg101we7This is for her slandering Patrick Muhmbia
@@drtg101we7 Yeah, but if I were her, I would figure the Italian authorities would decide if we can't get her on one thing, we'll get her on another.
@@Naturefan354 If I were her, I would stay in the US and never go near Italy or even Europe.
I would never go back to Italy if I was her and what kind of punishment can Italy do to her since their highest court released her and she is living in the United States.
NON avete capito : la Corte Europea ha annullato la condanna a 3 anni , questo processo è a suo vantaggio !
@@sertorio1040 English, please. 😮
@@JTRocks1 Don't have a translator ?
@sertorio1040 you're annoying.
@@sertorio1040 don't you?
She really shouldn't go back .
She should not go back, not even for free pasta!
Why did she go to Italy this time in the first place??
If the Feds are cooperating in her extradition she doesn't have a choice.
There is NO way I'd ever set foot in Italy again .
'Come get my a**"!
There is extradition treaty
@@joebidet2050 doesn't mean much, I remember in the 2000s during the whole catholic priest scandal, a Florida priest went back to Italy and italy refused to extradite him back to the US. Nothing ever happened
@@LuckyDuckie115 catholic Church runs Italy
@@LuckyDuckie115 Back to Italy or back to the Vatican?
@@ourcorrectopinions6824 yeah
But I still would never return
To Italy
No way
Man… Italy really has it out for this chick. They can’t let go..
They threw her under the bus because an Africa immigrant did the crime.
Like some people with OJ
@@firedawg2240Except OJ was actually guilty
Because Italy wants justice and I don’t blame them!
Guilty
The Italian government was totally fixated on her, it's like they have a vendetta against her and are trying find any reason to save face because the Italian police totally messed up this investigation.
So says the American media. People are soooo incredibly easy to manipulate, it always astounds me how much.
Absolutely.
@@WhoWho569then what happened?
@@WhoWho569 Agreed, however at least the US police can't sue you for slander, in the US we have free speech.
@@frankt5987 "Then what happened"? They got the killer. His name is Rudy Guede.
I don't understand why she would return to that place?? The whole court system is corrupt in Italy!!!
It’s just as corrupt here in the U.S.
You are so wrong !
@@ravenzyblack Not even close, we don't defend African r apists.
@@MK_ULTRA420 what do africans have to do with this?
The U.S. is more corrupt.
I NEVER thought she was a killer that got away. Amanda don't go back to Italy. They have not been kind to you.
Maybe, but she's definitely a slanderer.
@@misanthropicmusings4596no she’s not. The authorities in Italy coerced a bunch of different statements from her and she was under duress at the time. She didn’t slander anyone or commit any crimes. This is all on the Italian police.
@@bigdopamine9343 Tell that to the man she slandered.
@@misanthropicmusings4596 she didn’t slander him. The police did.
@@bigdopamine9343 you have only her word on that. Right?
Ridiculous ... so she's being sued for slander for pointing her INNOCENT finger at another, but the Italian proscutor who locked her up is not being sued for slander? GTFOH
Yes he did it all for publicity and saw 💵 $$…. Everyone who helped as well…… this what I’m afraid of when leaving to another country
She is the one who accused him .not Italy prosecutor.
Innocent people don't accuse Innocent people.
The European court of human rights decided that the slander conviction violated her human rights, so Italy had to reopen the case, and the court will now almost certainly acquit her of slander.
Knox will have filed the complaint with the European court of human rights herself, so this is exactly what she wanted, and it will likely clear her name also in respect of the slander accusation.
@@melgrant7404 the Italian prosecutor was too busy putting a case together against an innocent duo who were only dating for one week at the time of the murder. The Italian prosecutor shouldn't be prosecuting as he's too lazy to actually find the real killer who was right in front of him the entire time.
@@lour9348 I think he was already looking at two of them.
Italy leaving Amanda Knox alone challenge (impossible).
Do you live in the US? I live in the UK, your media fed you different information than we got in the UK. Amanda Knox & her then boyfriend have been lying their backsides off since 2nd November 2007.
This is precisely why double jeopardy exists in the U.S. legal system, so the prosecution can't keep trying you until they get the verdict that they want.
It's stupid, guilty people go free because of it
@@luvlost03 Better than innocent people having their lives destroyed.
In high profile cases has been a way in the U.S. to get around the prohibition of double jeopardy by recharging individuals previously found not guilty with the different crime of "violating the civil rights" of someone by harming or killing them. That was used down south during the 1960's by the Federal government to retry racists for murder that were previously cleared by biased all white juries of local townspeople and to retry law enforcement officers for the beating of Rodney King during the 1990's that the previous not guilty verdict caused the LA rights.
The flipside of Double Jeopardy is that if you convicted unfairly, it's much more difficult to get retrial...
Don’t know if she’s done it or not , one thing for sure the Italian police completely messed up the investigation from day 1 and are responsible for not being able to put the killer behind bars.
You're not watching. They put the killer behind bars years ago. He was in prison till 2021.
She certainly didn't do it. The whole absurd theory on which she was convicted was the brainchild of a perverted Italian prosecutor.
She didn't do it. Not even close. If you've ever looked into it, it's beyond ridiculous what their "court system" did to her.
geezus - Italy really has it out for her.
i wonder why 🥴🤪
Do not mess around with Italians, when they know they know. And they will come after you for accountability.
Because she's involved, obviously.
@@WhoWho569 Because they can't face their own appalling ignorance in ever charging her in the first place.
Good she is guilty
I dont think she is innocent.
Her behaviour was certainly bizarre. I wouldn't trust her anywhere near me or my family.
I also don’t think she’s innocent.
She was involved. There was so much evidence against her. Her rich boyfriend's dad took care of everything in the end to get them exonerated. I followed that case extremely closely for years. I was involved online with a group who actually sent people there right after it happened to take measurements, photos, do interviews, and research. I'm convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that she was involved.
@@rachelross1657 didn't they both have very suspicious cell phone activity too? Went from very active to inactive.
@TrueSeed-ft1jn , it's now been so long since it happened. I was online discussing and reading EVERY day for years. Now I've tried to forget a lot of it because I'm certain justice was not served. I was so disappointed when only Rudy went to prison and not the other two perps.
Why is Amanda Knox still in Italy 😅
Because she miss the spotlight!
@@johnghilduta3016 - I wouldn't call a circus of a trial, wrongful conviction and 4 years in prison something she misses.
I’m sure her roommate killed her self! Use your mind if you have any.@@deborahblackvideoediting8697
She isn't.
@@johnghilduta3016exactly. There is no reason for her to go back but she wants the fame.
Even the way this information is relayed in this clip is misleading.
Can't believe this case is still going on. The court system over there seems like a joke. Complete waste of time.
This has nothing to do with the murder itself. She is definitively acquitted of that. Knox, not Italy, initiated this trial when she appealed her lone remaining conviction for defamation against her former boss. HER appeal was granted and the defamation conviction was annulled with referral to a new trial. The new trial cannot use her two statements implicating Lumumba that she signed during the interrogation as the ECHR held they were taken when her civil rights to a lawyer and impartial interpreter were violated. Without those, she will likely be acquitted.
Lol they'll never stop.
The Italian Police and court system are a flaming joke.
No, the circumstances are pretty extraordinary in Amanda Knoxs case too. Knox is quite conning etc. a rare type of personality.
I read an article that said an Italian judge ruled that the victim was too ugly to get )$&ed. Still the funniest thing I’ve read this decade.
Always better than the barbaric, death penalty ruled and RACIST oriented american "Justice" = if you have money enough, you can escape every crime! Even with corruption or paying the american "bail", only existing in your corrupt country!
@@robertm3561 Dude, it was an african immigrant that did the killing.
@@robertm3561 You're insane. Italy is so corrupt. If you have even the foggiest clue about this case, you'd never make such a claim.
This woman was innocent from the beginning. Leave her alone. Where’s our government protecting our citizens?
She is evil
Yes, Lumumba said about Amanda that she has no soul.
She has now once again lost the defamation case in an Italian court and due to her personal attendance at that trial she has now become even worse hated by Italian MSM.
If Amada decides to appeal this verdict she'll go down in history as a very unpleasant woman, to say the least. Besides she'll now have to pay all court fees and her lawyer as well. She also takes the risk of being sued by Lumumba.
The killer always goes back to the crime scene.
She's revisited several times now. She displays traits consistent with psychopathy.
Why won't they leave Amanda alone?
I'm still not convinced she's innocent, honestly.
Why?
Duh plane Duh plane
She doesn't seem to shy away from publicity . Another docu series? She is making money of this tragedy still.
Jealous?
She enjoys it. What a narcissist
If you were in her place, would you be silent? This case was seriously fncked up, in many ways.
She's also technically a victim. A lot of what she's making is to clear her own name.
So all victims of crimes and misshandled justice who happen to become speakers, write books, make movies, make series, make documentaries, creaste organizations that help, etc, they are not making money of of their tragedy?
2:30 - "On social media, Knox calling her new trial, 'a good thing', and 'a chance to prove her innocence once and for all'".
She has a lot more faith in the messed up Italian justice system than me after seeing what they did to her the first time around. I simply can't imagine why she would ever risk going there again, or any American for that matter.
Me too. I feel like they showed how incompetent and ridiculously biased they are
"I simply can't imagine why she would ever risk going there again, or any American for that matter". Coming from a country who has the largest prison population in the world
@@phunkboxx she was released due to heavily, political american pressures. Italy is in the NATO and is substantially, an "american" colony (with american bases etc.).
At least Italy has NOT the death penalty as you have, in American you have over 22.000 murders per year, Italy just 300, as is the SAFEST european country, except when some rotten american goes there thinking he can do whatever he wants to!
Anything Amanda Knox utters should be ' taken with a grain of salt', I don't believe a word she says, or that she cannot remember. Doesn't want to remember, would be closer to the truth. Meredith is the victim, not Amanda, though she likes to think she is.
@@sjordan7085 Meredith is definitely the victim - of Rudy Guede. Amanda Knox had nothing at all to do with it. In the USA she would never have even been charged based on such flimsy "evidence". As a matter of fact, the investigators might have been charged with crimes instead of her.
Money got her out of it in the first place.
Bingo!
She needs more money for future defenses. She’s riding on the publicity
No, DNA convicting the african immigrant is what got her out.
As if you know anything about this topic
@@humansvd3269 ya' can't do that without loot.
Based on what happened to Amanda Knox, I would never travel to Italy.
That's sad. Italy is a gorgeous country full of history and culture. That's like someone saying they'd never visit the US because a person was wrongfully imprisoned here.
Knox didn't want to go back for her 2nd conviction.
As for myself, I would like to travel to Florens, but without Amanda.
@@bjornsundberg1947 Has she asked you?
Amanda still playing the victim.
Amanda is a sociopath
Own your mistake.
Her bizarre behavior was her worse evidence against her
Let me guess: cartwheels and kissing her boyfriend?
@@mytrip6991accusing an innocent man.
@@mytrip6991 why is she joining a cult
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@@mytrip6991 no.implicating an innocent man.
@@melgrant7404 You mean the two statements she signed during an unrecorded interrogation where her rights to a lawyer and an impartial interpreter were violated and ruled inadmissible in the new trial as evidence? The interrogation where the interrogator, not Knox, brought up Lumumba and then admitted she jumped to the wrong conclusion about the text? The one where she erroneously believed Knox was confirming a meeting with him the night of the murder? The ones Chief of Police de Felice announced where Knox finally "buckled and made an admission of facts we knew were correct and from that we were able to bring them in"?
LOL. De Felice is admitting they believed Lumumba was involved from the moment Ficarra (mis)read that text despite Knox's denials. If you were intellectually honest, you'd admit that. But you aren't.
Italy really hates her!
Well, she was part of a murder ritual murder gang and girl got murdered. What more reason you want.
She goes back there!!
Yup she is guilty
Funny how murdering someone makes others angry.
Amanda knox simply got away with murder end of story....
Only evidence of one person being in the room with Kercher when she was killed: Rudy Guede. End of story.
Ive always felt this woman is guilty as heck and will probably get away with it.
Thankfully, "feeling" someone is guilty isn't evidence.
@@mytrip6991 sadly.
Not "sadly" but "thank goodness!"
Why don't you tell us on what evidence your "feeling" is based?
@mytrip6991 well it sadly in this case .she was convicted twice.
Guilty or not, doing cart wheels outside while your roommate was just found murdered is not normal. Something wrong in your head if not Guilty.
Cartwheels? Hyperbolic much?
Can you give a link to a reputable news source where this was confirmed?
@@richardscranton4159 do you know the story or? Not exaggerating at all.
@@lat1502 google
This lady is guilty. She has all the hallmarks of a liar. The case was just poorly handled and she got away with it.
I would never go back there. This could open another Pandora’s box. Don’t go Amanda!
She should not go back to Italy. Someone is not giving her good advice.
So confused, was the podcast made in Italy?r what jurisdiction do they hold here in the states
It's from the past, from a statement she wrote when she was there before, not current slander
I sure am glad that I'm an introvert who never had a desire to leave America.
I don’t think you realise what an appallingly sad thing that is to say.
@@Hvrtjff Everyone's different. A happy life to you is a sad one to someone else.
@@Nayr747 there’s a big beautiful world out there full of interesting people and you want to stay in your room in ‘Murica. Its like being stuck in a cage with the door open. A place that’s often far more dangerous and disgusting than a lot of other places - but you’ll never know that, because you’ve never dared go anywhere.
@@Hvrtjff I've probably traveled more than you. But it's arrogant to think that everyone has to live your life or they're not good enough. Some people are happier than you will ever be just doing their own thing at home. Not everyone is you.
Being ignorant doesn't work for me, when curiosity about the world brings so much knowledge and experience.
Was it proved that she was NOT guilty? How was it proved?
Amanda Knox was EXONERATED by Italy's Supreme Court. She was not present at the house when her roommate was tragically murdered by Rudy Guede. She is an exoneree, meaning she never should have been charged in the first place. The scant evidence the police claim they had was badly mishandled. Knox was interrogated for extended periods of time...without being allowed to have an attorney present. She was not allowed to use the bathroom.
No. She was justifiably convicted *twice.* Power, money, and influence got her out of that prison. Trump helped! Just goes to show how good his judgment is. 🙄
I doubt her. But not the pretty money behind her. She tried to implicate two innocent people. Period.
She never would have falsely implicated the bartender if neighborhood eyewitnesses hadn't seen a Black guy climbing through windows over the previous weeks, and if police hadn't been feeding Amanda that info and trying to get her to "be a good-'ol-boy" by falsely accusing the bartender. So Amanda deserves to go to jail for that, but so do the police who coerced her false accusation.
@@stugrant01 No evidence, Nothing.
@@janetpartyka5968 I think that Amanda admitted on record to "trying to 'help' the police" by falsely accusing the bartender.
Dear Italy, as the song goes "Let it go, let it go!"
She got away with murder.
I wish people would just get off of this poor young woman. Enough, already! I hope Amanda does NOT go back to Italy.
bah, she just wants headlines to sell another book and then complain about all the attention she, herself, has garnered - She might have even made a preemptive deal with Nancy Grace
Like Meghan Markle lol
Making a profit from the suffering of another is both dispicable and disgusting!
Knox is innocent
She is a killer who got away
She is innocent!!!
the higher court begs to differ. and really no one cares for what you, a clear mysoginist, thinks about her.
She’s OJ Simpson just the white female version 😅
Funny how she is charged with slander for wrongly accusing someone…. Didn’t that prosecutor also wrongly accuse her?!
Perfect documentary on how to get away with murder
Amanda's first step to get away with murder was to not commit murder in the first place.
Amanda Knox was EXONERATED by Italy's Supreme Court. She was not present at the house when her roommate was tragically murdered by Rudy Guede. She is an exoneree, meaning she never should have been charged in the first place. The scant evidence the police claim they had was badly mishandled. Knox was interrogated for extended periods of time...without being allowed to have an attorney present. She was not allowed to use the bathroom.
@@ronald3836 Prove it, Ronald. Were you there? Did you see her do it? How did she do it? Give us the details.
@@janetpartyka5968 she got away because she was not involved in the murder. She was innocent. If you know the case, there is no doubt. Rudy Guede committed the murder, Amanda had no connection to him. She was not there. Only in the imagination of a sexually perverted Italian prosecutor was she involved in the murder.
In order to believe that Knox and Sollecito are innocent, you have to overlook the following:
Knox's accusation against her employer, a claim she made after less than TWO HOURS of being interviewed (not 40, like Team Knox would have you believe - this is a proven fact) and stuck to for 3 weeks, letting her innocent boss rot in jail all the while.
The fact that Meredith Kercher’s blood was found mixed inside Knox’s fresh DNA in 5 different spots in the bathroom.
The fact the Knox was bleeding on the day of the murder, and left blood smeared in the bathroom, blood which she herself admits was not there the day before.
Sollecito’s DNA on Meredith’s bra clasp - with a 16 loci match, the probability that the DNA belongs to someone else is one in a trillion, and with only ONE other DNA trace of him in the cottage (cigarette butt) the idea of contamination is near impossible.
Knox’s DNA on the handle of the murder weapon and Meredith’s on the blade. Sollectio tried to explain this by saying he had accidentally pricked Meredith with his knife while she had been at his house. She had never been there.
The THREE sets of bloody footprints, one a match for Guede, one a match for Sollecito, and one in Knox’s size, in her own DNA, mixed with Meredith’s.
The single bloody footprint on the bathmat, which is a perfect match for Sollecito, and also, being the only bloody footprint with no others around it, is undisputed proof a clean up happened.
The blatantly staged crime scene, with glass on TOP of the clothes strewn around, a near impossible window entry point, and not a single trace of Guede anywhere in that room, not to mention the fact Knox and Sollecito ‘knew’ nothing had been taken before anyone had even looked.
The fact that Guede’s footprints lead right out Meredith’s room out the front door and he has an alibi for the rest of the night, meaning we KNOW it wasn’t Guede who returned to the scene hours later, staged a burglary, cleaned up and moved the body.
The fact that Knox’s lamp was found in Meredith’s room with no fingerprints whatsoever - more proof of a clean up.
The incredible amount of changes in her account before, during, and after she was arrested.
Total lack of alibi after multiple attempts, and then Sollecito withdrawing his alibi for her.
Her dubious account of her activity the morning after the murder, including her lies about Meredith’s locked door, her reaction to the blood, and the contradictions to this she makes in her testimony, email home, and in her book.
The fact Knox knew several details about her murder she could not possibly have known: cause of death, position of body, that there had been more than one attacker, that Meredith had been assaulted etc.
The frantic call she made to her mother in the middle of the night that she ‘forgets’ making.
The witness who saw her and Sollecito by the cottage on the murder night.
The shopkeeper who saw her when she claimed to be in her bed sleeping.
Her overall behaviour after the murder.
And I can go on, and on, and on. My point is that, whatever opinion people have as to their guilty or innocence, there is enough evidence to convict, and however many times those claims of “no evidence" are repeated, it doesn't make it true.
It's a pity none of your points are sustainable Les as I've previously indicated. Think of something better to do
In order to believe that Knox and Sollecito are innocent, you have to overlook the following:
*No you have to understand that they are all baloney, questionable, or downright lies
Knox's accusation against her employer, a claim she made after less than TWO HOURS of being interviewed (not 40, like Team Knox would have you believe - this is a proven fact) and stuck to for 3 weeks, letting her innocent boss rot in jail all the while.
*No, Amanda was interrogated for 53 hours in total from the 2nd November until 6th November when Lumumba was implicated due to mulitple human right and domestic laws abuses.
The fact that Meredith Kercher’s blood was found mixed inside Knox’s fresh DNA in 5 different spots in the bathroom.
*Erm no! You don't get blood INSIDE anyones DNA. You are talking baloney. The DNA can't be proven to be "fresh" as Stefanoni herself indicated in court.
The fact the Knox was bleeding on the day of the murder, and left blood smeared in the bathroom, blood which she herself admits was not there the day before.
*A tiny amount of Amanda's blood was found on the tap that might not have been noticed the day before. It was due to an infected ear piercing. The court failed to prove otherwise.
Sollecito’s DNA on Meredith’s bra clasp - with a 16 loci match, the probability that the DNA belongs to someone else is one in a trillion, and with only ONE other DNA trace of him in the cottage (cigarette butt) the idea of contamination is near impossible.
*The bra-clasp was thrown out by the supreme court as an "item of no evidential value" due to probable contamination. Your boat has sailed.
Knox’s DNA on the handle of the murder weapon and Meredith’s on the blade. Sollectio tried to explain this by saying he had accidentally pricked Meredith with his knife while she had been at his house. She had never been there.
*The supreme court concluded that Meredith's DNA trace (36b) would not have been decisive in court due to the fact that "it was not a blood trace". What Raffaele said about it is irrelevant. Amanda's DNA was to be expected since she used the knife for domestic purposes.
The THREE sets of bloody footprints, one a match for Guede, one a match for Sollecito, and one in Knox’s size, in her own DNA, mixed with Meredith’s.
*No there wasn't. YOU'RE LYING! Read the motivation report.
The single bloody footprint on the bathmat, which is a perfect match for Sollecito, and also, being the only bloody footprint with no others around it, is undisputed proof a clean up happened.
*The evidence was thrown out by the supreme court as unreliable.
The blatantly staged crime scene, with glass on TOP of the clothes strewn around, a near impossible window entry point, and not a single trace of Guede anywhere in that room, not to mention the fact Knox and Sollecito ‘knew’ nothing had been taken before anyone had even looked.
*No photographs showed glass on top of clothing. The entry point has been demonstrated twice, once by defence lawyer Delfo Beretti and once by climbing enthusiast Ricardo Pinella. Amanda saw that Filomena's valuable laptop and camera had not been taken. It was translated by Raffaele to mean that nothing had been taken. No traces were found of Rudy due to the fact the the police were totally negligent in falsely assuming that the breaking in was staged. The supreme court described their incompetence as "investigative amnesia"
The fact that Guede’s footprints lead right out Meredith’s room out the front door and he has an alibi for the rest of the night, meaning we KNOW it wasn’t Guede who returned to the scene hours later, staged a burglary, cleaned up and moved the body.
*No they didn't Rudy's footprints very likely emerged from the bathroom and they faded out before reaching the front door. No one came back and cleaned up or moved the body, nor did the supreme court conclude any such thing. In fact they rubbished the idea of a posthumous clean-up multiple times in the motivation report. I suggest you read it.
The fact that Knox’s lamp was found in Meredith’s room with no fingerprints whatsoever - more proof of a clean up.
*No one knows with any certainty how the lamp got into Meredith's room, least of all you. There is no evidence that the lamp was cleaned of fingerprints. It's baloney!
The incredible amount of changes in her account before, during, and after she was arrested.
*Both K&S changed there stories under police pressure, intimidation and human rights abuses. Once these abuses were removed the both reverted back to their original stories that the were at Raffaele's flat during the murder.
Total lack of alibi after multiple attempts, and then Sollecito withdrawing his alibi for her.
*Raffaele didn't withdraw his alibi. It was coerced by abusive cops who wouldn't allow him to access the calander on the wall The depostion was unusable in court against him. The depostion doesn't contain a shred of reliable evidence and is more likely to be the events of Halloween, not the night of the murder.
Her dubious account of her activity the morning after the murder, including her lies about Meredith’s locked door, her reaction to the blood, and the contradictions to this she makes in her testimony, email home, and in her book.
*What lies about Meredith's door? She misunderstood Filomena's rapid fire Italian that's all. What about the rest? You cite nothing incriminating.
The fact Knox knew several details about her murder she could not possibly have known: cause of death, position of body, that there had been more than one attacker, that Meredith had been assaulted etc.
*Baloney! K&S were told of the details of the murder en route to the questura by Luca Altieri and Paolo Grande who testified that they got the information from the medical team that attended Meredith's body.
The frantic call she made to her mother in the middle of the night that she ‘forgets’ making.
*To be accurate Amanda didn't call during the night, it was shortly after noon when she phoned her mother. It was night when her mother received the call.
The witness who saw her and Sollecito by the cottage on the murder night.
*Curatolo? His testimony was thrown out by the supreme court as being totally addled and unreliable.
The shopkeeper who saw her when she claimed to be in her bed sleeping.
*Quintavalle's testimony was thrown out as unreliable by the supreme court.
Her overall behaviour after the murder.
*Her overall behaviour was not to try to flee but to stay and be as helpful to the police as possible. She had the choice to leave Italy but her Mother decided that she would come to Italy in order to be supportive. The invesigators exploited her trust.
And I can go on, and on, and on. My point is that, whatever opinion people have as to their guilty or innocence, there is enough evidence to convict, and however many times those claims of “no evidence" are repeated, it doesn't make it true.
*Yes, you could go on and on but it would be just a regurgitation of the same old baloney. No there isn't enough to convict, that's why K&S were acquitted. It doesn't matter how many times you recycle your list of lies and factoids it's not going to make you any more credible.
In fact I don't think you've even got the gumption to defend any of your lies
@@TGcomments Mike Hunt is one of Les Grossman's many sock puppets. He's been copying and pasting the same exact crap for years. He's a troll. He never provides evidence for any of his long lists of lies. He posts his crap and disappears only to repeat it the same thing elsewhere.
@@TGcomments BREAKING: Amanda Knox (@amandaknox
), who falsely accused Patrick Lumumba, a Congolese man, of the murder of British exchange student Meredith Kercher in Italy in 2007, has been re-convicted of slander. Lumumba had been kind to her, giving her a part-time job. However, she deliberately lied about him to exonerate herself and later blamed police pressure. The court has just reconvicted her.
@@TGcomments BREAKING: Amanda Knox (@amandaknox
), who falsely accused Patrick Lumumba, a Congolese man, of the murder of British exchange student Meredith Kercher in Italy in 2007, has been re-convicted of slander. Lumumba had been kind to her, giving her a part-time job. However, she deliberately lied about him to exonerate herself and later blamed police pressure. The court has just reconvicted her. lol
Because they probably know she is a psychopath.
That's a lazy and ignorant go to by people who have nothing else. Read my comment to johnniewalker4857 above and learn something.
She certainly presents as such.
@@alabama.worley Only to those who are blinded by their own "she's guilty" bias and prejudice which is usually due to lack of knowledge of the case or inability to admit they're wrong.
Knox has led a totally normal life for the last 13 years, getting married, having children, working and never in trouble. That is not a psychopath.
@@alabama.worley Based on what?
She did it...
I live near her in west Seattle.....she is the real deal sociopath.
No question about it
Living near her is not evidence she's guilty or a sociopath.
On what evidence is your opinion she's guilty based?
The deficient are easily swayed.
She didn’t do it. She was an American teenager who didn’t react the way the police wanted her to.
She did. She accused an innocent man.
Leave her alone…
I remember this so well because my daughter was studying abroad and I thought this could happen to any of our children. I never thought she was guilty and that the Italian government were like a dog with a bone and wouldn't let go. Their judicial system is a joke and this case was so mishandled from the beginning They do not know how to do a professional and thourough murder investigation. They put her in jail for 4 years and slandered her reputation and gave her crappy legal representation. I would never, ever return to Italy and would have this process done via Zoom or a legal representative. I hear nothing but terrible things about Italy's government and health care system.
The World Health Organization (WHO) ranked the Italian healthcare system among the best in the world, after the French healthcare system. Italians enjoy the 7th highest life expectancy in the world, as well as very low levels of infant mortality.
Of all countries in 2020, the United States possessed the highest infant mortality rate at 5.4 deaths per 1000 live births, which is markedly higher than the 1.6 deaths per 1000 live births in Norway, which has the the lowest mortality rate. U.S. life expectancy was 76 years in 2021, according to data from the World Bank, ranking it approximately 60th in the world for life expectancy, behind countries like Estonia and Saudi Arabia.
@@MrChopsticktech I’m sure that you are right about Italian health care, but their justice system may need work
Amanda Knox was found outside the cottage with a mop and bucket whispering embarrassed to be seen with her boyfriend. The postal police were there to return phones to her two roommates only Meredith was dead behind the door so Raphael called police after postal police were already there. It was when confronted about this reality that he turned on Amanda Knox - for two innocents they sure have acted oddly never again telling the same story. They were charged with murder because they committed murder. Amanda Knox was freed during the days of Obama. Donald Trump saying she was innocent- this was back before the media turned on him he was simply lied to like everyone else.
1) "Amanda Knox was found outside the cottage with a mop and bucket whispering embarrassed to be seen with her boyfriend."
Looks like you've fallen for the lies spewed by TJMK's Peter Quennell who originated the "found outside the cottage with a mop and bucket" lie. Neither of your claims is backed up with an iota of evidence. In fact, neither of the two first responding officers, Battistelli and Marzi, testified to seeing any mop or bucket outside:
Testimony of Off. M. Battistelli Feb 6. 2009:
PROSECUTOR - Well, when you arrived, what did you see when you arrived, who was there?
WITNESS - When I arrived, the two young people sitting...
PROSECUTOR - The two young people, that is, the two defendants?
WITNESS - The two defendants, yes, were sitting in front of the windows of the house where there is...
PROSECUTOR - Oh, in front, that is, where exactly were they?
WITNESS: They were standing near the corner, where the fence meets the corner, just in front of the windows.
No mention of any mop or bucket.
Nor did they say Knox was "whispering embarrassed to be seen with her boyfriend."
PROSECUTOR - Listen, when you started talking to them...
WITNESS - Yes.
PROSECUTOR - As they spoke, they were...
WITNESS - They were quite awkward I noticed, they were quite surprised. ["imbarazzanti" means 'awkward/embarrassed/uncomfortable']
PROSECUTOR: But were they talking, I mean, let's say were they mumbling a little, or was it normal speech? [the verb used was "farfugliare" which means to mumble/slur, it does NOT mean "to whisper"]
(Defense objects to judge that witness cannot make judgment calls, only report facts. Judge agrees and asks if the two waved or moved their hands)
WITNESS: No, in that respect, no, they were calm, it's not that they were gesticulating nervously.
PROSECUTOR - What was the appearance a little... You first said they looked awkward, that is...
WITNESS - Yes, surprised, let's say more than anything else surprised.
DEFENSE LAWYER BONGIORNO - Mr. President, we are continuing with the judgments.
PRESIDENT: Of course, judgments cannot be taken into account. This surprise that you say, how they had shown it, what objective behavior that you...
WITNESS - No, they didn't have any particular behavior. As I repeat, I had that impression, but they spoke softly, they spoke softly, they were enough...
PRESIDENT: They spoke in low voices (parlavano sottovoce) and this is an objective fact that we collect. Please (Continue). ["Parlavano sottovoce" means to "talk softly/ in low voices/whisper". In English, "whispering" can imply being furtive or just talking softly]
2) " Raphael called police after postal police were already there."
False. As both Massei (Corte di Assise of first level) and Hellmann concluded, he called police BEFORE the postal police arrived:
From the Hellmann Report:
"There has been much discussion on whether the call to 112 happened before or after the arrival of the Police, with it having been hypothesized by the Public Minister that the call to the Carabinieri at 112 had been made on seeing the arrival of the Police, just to validate the notion [tesi] of their innocence. Except that even the Corte di Assise of first level, on the basis of the testimony given by the on-duty Police personnel and of the times reproduced from the logs, arrived at the conclusion that these calls had been made before the arrival of the Police and unaware of their imminent arrival."
3) " for two innocents they sure have acted oddly never again telling the same story. "
Incredible! I suggest you read Knox's pre- and post-interrogation depositions, two memoriales and her book. They are the same story. You've obviously never read Sollecito's depositions or his book or read his lawyers' arguments in court!
4) " Amanda Knox was freed during the days of Obama."
AND? Did Obama control the Italian judiciary? Did he get TWO judges and SIX lay jurors to acquit someone they thought was really guilty? Did he get two, independent Italian forensic experts to discredit the bra hook and knife evidence? Did Obama get Curatolo to claim he saw Knox and Sollecito on HALLOWEEN night? Good lord.
5) "Donald Trump saying she was innocent- this was back before the media turned on him he was simply lied to like everyone else."
I thought your statement about Obama was nuts, but this one explains it all! 🥜🥜
I'm still not sure with her innocence.
Then pay attention. The Italian police got the hots for a blonde American and couldn't let it go. They are obscene
Why is she still in this country??????
Italian law and its court system is nuts.
Leave her alone already!
A young woman was brutally murdered and people’s only concern is for this nutcase not getting in any more bother. If Meredith were American, the context of how you all talk about this would totally change and you know. Utterly disgraceful.
Absolutely agree with that. She is involved with the Meredith murder, for sure.
Sadly you are right. They defended her like that because of her nationality.
Leave the poor woman alone.
Poor woman. She's happy .
funny how she never says how sorry she would be for the family of her roomate
She has, several times. Knox has said she would like to contact Meredith Kercher's family to let them know how sorry she is for the murder and loss of her housemate.
Sha has many, many times. Dimwit.
@@spasiba12345they don't seem to want her around though. Don't blame them after her being convicted twice.
She would probably never contact them.
She should stay away from Italy. Move on.
I will NEVER GO THERE EVER AGAIN YOU ARE A FREE WOMAN NOW
She cant shake off that she accused this man.
And I bet you know absolutely nothing about why that happened. Or that she recanted the same day and again the next day...both of which the police ignored.
@@Helenwheels370 and were you there.no. who accuses an innocent man.she is full of excuses. It was this it was because that.i don't buy it.
She wasn't tortured.
Were you there? No.
What police don't record the interrogation of someone they already believe is involved in the murder ? What police don't even bother to make a transcript of what questions were asked and how the suspect answered? What police write up statements in a language the suspect doesn't understand and have her sign them? What police violate a suspect's civil rights by denying them a lawyer and an impartial interpreter and fail to investigate a suspect's claims of being smacked on the head as found by the ECHR?
Answer: the Perugia police on Nov. 5/6 , 2007.
Saul Kassin is the world's leading expert of false confessions. His opinion? Knox was coerced into believing she had amnesia and was intimidated through fear, stress, and exhaustion into agreeing to what the police were telling her "really" happened.
@@Helenwheels370 well the police got it wrong about the barman.
Just excuses from Amanda.
@@melgrant7404 Yes, they did. You're confusing 'excuses' with 'explanations and causes'.
Sorry she seems guilty as all heck
She is factually innocent. The murderer is known.
@@GH-oi2jf the three of them were there that night. Her boyfriend's father's money and influence got her and his son off and the whole blame was placed on Rudy.
She is a female O.J.
There was overwhelming forensic evidence of O.J. at the murder scene, including his blood. There were fresh cuts on his hands. Both victims' blood was found on the outside and inside of O.J.'s Bronco. Nicole's blood was found on O.J.'s socks in his bedroom. And much more. O.J. had a documented history of domestic violence by him toward Nicole.
So, if Knox is the female O.J., what evidence is there against her? Be specific.
rudy is the killer...rudy the afro.
He says knox was there.
Sending love to Amanda Knox ❤
This is ridiculous. As bad as our justice system can be, others in even developed, western countries like Italy can be much worse.
Italy has a crap justice system. Once you're caught in it there's little hope of getting out no matter how innocent you are.
Italy really is the worst of the best.
How I wish that was still true.
@@mikethespike7579 Italy justice system has 3 grades of judgement (america just 2) and is absolutely not so severe towards criminals, no death penalty and rarely the life sentence. Italians complain that murderers go out from prison just after 10 years, the EXACT OPPOSITE of the ignorant tra..sh you are saying about Italy!
@@commenter4190 So, you accuse me of ignorant trash because I have a different opinion. Do you talk like that to your friends, family and colleagues?
Grow up first and become an adult before you post infantile comments to people you don't know and maybe you'll start to be taken seriously.
As the broadcaster said, even if she wins the case, the people in Italy will still think she is guilty.
I think it is mostly people in the UK that have decided for themselves that Knox is guilty.
They don't matter
The girl who got away with murder
Wrong. Knox is factually innocent, along with her then boyfriend. They weren't there. The victim was her friend.
@@GH-oi2jf They most certainly WERE there.
They were definitely at the scene of the time
@@GH-oi2jfAmanda Knox is evil, and guilty!
By not committing it in the first place.
Most of the comments show people do not understand what this trial is and is not.
KNOX WANTED THIS TRIAL, NOT ITALY.
KNOX APPEALED her only remaining conviction in Italy. She was cleared of the murder in 2015 but the slander (calunnia) conviction against her former boss, Patrick Lumumba, remained.
A new law in Italy allows definitive convictions to be annulled and retried if the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) finds a conviction was unfair due to a person's civil rights being violated. The ECHR found in 2019 that Italy had violated her right to a lawyer and to an impartial interpreter during her interrogation. Knox then appealed to Italy's Supreme Court which annulled her slander conviction and ordered a new trial. In that trial, the prosecution cannot use against her the two statements signed during that interrogation accusing Lumumba. They can only use her Nov. 6 written letter which she gave the police a few hours after the interrogation. In that, she wrote "I want to make clear that I'm very doubtful of the veritity [sic] of my statements because they were made under the pressures of stress, shock and extreme exhaustion. Not only was I told I would be arrested and put in jail for 30 years, but I was also hit in the head when I didn't remember a fact correctly." and "I also know that the fact that I can't fully recall the events that I claim took place at Raffaele's home during the time that Meredith was murdered is incriminating. And I stand by my statements that I made last night about events that could have taken place in my home with Patrik, but I want to make very clear that these events seem more unreal to me than what I said before, that I stayed at Raffaele's house." She asked, "2. Why did I think of Patrik? 3. Is the evidence proving my pressance [sic] at the time and place of the crime reliable? If so, what does this say about my memory? Is it reliable?"
She was clearly telling them that she didn't know for sure what happened, if Lumumba was there or not. But the police ignored it.
If acquitted, Knox will have no convictions remaining and the monetary award given to Lumumba will also be cancelled. If convicted, she cannot, under Italian law, be sentenced to additional prison time as she already served 3 years for that conviction.
This is NOT Italy going after Knox. This is Knox going after Italy.
I am not sure who actually killed Meredith - Miss Knox or her Italian boyfriend - but I think one of them did
Then why is evidence of only one attacker, Rudy Guede, found in Meredith's room? Explain that.
She get away with murder
She was acquitted due to there being no evidence and all the evidence pointing straight to Rudy Guede.
I don’t think this was wrong. I think she did it
Do not go there.
IT NEVER ENDS FOR SOME PEOPLE...SORRY AMANDA
Never ends for merediths family.
Funny how murdering someone has consequences.
I remember this case, I still think she is the mind behaind the murder.
Why? What evidence supports your opinion?
Why do Americans think she’s innocent?
Because mad stabbers show signs of being mad stabbers long before they become mad stabbers. And we know because there are a lot
If mad stabbers here. No criminal record, no history of psychopathy. That why
Because suburban hobbits and gentrified hillbillies just do not have self-awareness (it's simply not taught in their society), and can never see what's wrong with themselves or those in their company. And then they "move on", and have relationships and reproduce shamelessly.
Media manipulation.
Media manipulation.
@@WhoWho569 agree. Americans are so brainwashed!
If she "wrote" it in a statement it would be "libel" not "slander" tho🤣
She didn't write anything. The Italian police wrote up her alleged statements and had her sign them. They've been thrown out as evidence and can't be used against her as they were taken illegally.
malignant narc
Italy have to let this go. So is Amanda.
Knox always knew she was getting off.
Which ever documentary you watch about this case, they ALL start with the Polizia impression that Knox was not sad/emotional enough…about the murder off a person she was a new roommate with and barely knew.
I remember Amanda Knox. Very sad case.
I’m American and I always had doubts about Amanda Knox’s innocence.
Because you hate women
Amanda Knox was EXONERATED by Italy's Supreme Court. She was not present at the house when her roommate was tragically murdered by Rudy Guede. She is an exoneree, meaning she never should have been charged in the first place. The scant evidence the police claim they had was badly mishandled. Knox was interrogated for extended periods of time...without being allowed to have an attorney present. She was not allowed to use the bathroom.
Meredith Kercher has really been looked over during all this, she almost an afterthought in her own murder story.
This new trial has nothing to do with Meredith's murder. It's only about the conviction for defamation against Knox's former boss.
She was over exposed, most victims never get any publicity
I still think she’s guilty
Why? She has been exonerated. She is factually innocent. Why would you say such a thing?
@@GH-oi2jf she was factually guilty. Her boyfriend's father had influence and money and that is what got his son and Amanda exonerated
@@rachelross1657 thank you
@@rachelross1657 and Rudy? Remember initially he never mentioned anyone else only after being enticed with a shorter sentence did he link himself to Amanda and her boyfriend. The investigator gave Rudy the cues and clues. Get it straight!
Helping the police? hahaha! are you serious? She literally threw the guy under the bus because he is black. End of story!
You do not know the facts of the case if you think that.
You do know the actual killer, who served 13 years for the murder, is black?
Literally under the bus? What? She picked him up and tossed him under the tires?
Don’t go to Italy ever again!!!
Why would she return?
Guilty people are compelled to revisit the scenes of their crimes.
There’s no way she didn’t do it. No way
Didn't do it? Rudi Guede was the murderer.
@@missasinenominethere is a decent amount of physical evidence that could suggest she was involved along with Rudi. Not saying she is, but there is an argument to be made and it’s not a clear cut case of innocence as it’s portrayed.
I don't know where you got your information? There is zero evidence linking Amanda to the murder.
Please inform us what all this evidence is?
@DaVinciSketch Well actually it was Rafael Socelito's DNA that was found on Meredith Kercher's bra clasp.
Leave this woman alone. I highly doubt that she will leave this country.
Why she went back ?
This narrative isn’t quite true. Seriously
What exactly isn't 'quite true'?
So, there is no statute of limitations for slander in Bella Italia?
Only slander if it's not true.