The Story Of The Super FX Chip - The Chip That Made Star Fox On The Super Nintendo Possible

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  • In 1993 The Super FX Chip brought true 3D polygon based games to the Super Nintendo. A feat that many, including Nintendo executives, didn't think was possible. This is a preview for the Story Of The Super FX Chip. The strange tale of how a teenager, an off the cuff suggestion, and a cash strapped company brought the Super Nintendo into the third dimension.
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  • @JustinWhangYt
    @JustinWhangYt 6 років тому +278

    When I was a kid, I lied and told people that they invented the Super FX Chip by dumping a regular chip into apple juice.

  • @Winston0Boogie
    @Winston0Boogie 6 років тому +85

    I lost my shit when I first saw this game especially when they said, "why go to the next level when you can go light years beyond." Amazing slap in the face to Sega.

    • @stelb3r958
      @stelb3r958 4 роки тому +3

      But then, svp ship

    • @stelb3r958
      @stelb3r958 4 роки тому +4

      @@gamephreak5 ah yes crap,almost arcade perfect, 2 players support, replay mode, full 3d and fast, but starfox was light-years beyond, slow, glitchy and not full 3d, really the svp was superior to the fx ship, and other games where coming with the svp like Daytona USA virtua fighter, you know, sega's arcade hits, I prefer speed and technical impressive 3d rather than a bad shmup, if you want a better shmup, there's soul star on the mega CD, better graphics, no shitty 3d and its above 2fps :D, you know, good shmups

    • @stelb3r958
      @stelb3r958 4 роки тому +4

      @@gamephreak5 and you know that the Genesis can run a lower version of starfox just by her self, so Imagine what they could've done with the svp

    • @technicalmachine1671
      @technicalmachine1671 4 роки тому +8

      @HONOR the console wars are over.

    • @camulodunon
      @camulodunon 3 роки тому +2

      Vectorman: hahahahaha bitches!

  • @livefreeprintguns
    @livefreeprintguns 6 років тому +269

    Amazing that the Starfox franchise was essentially started by a couple of teenagers.

    • @tonyrandal9124
      @tonyrandal9124 3 роки тому +8

      If that's not inspiring I don't know what is

    • @drunkensailor112
      @drunkensailor112 3 роки тому +7

      Dude. Codemasters were already publishers when the darling brothers were 12 and 13 years old and multi millionaires

    • @charlie1234500
      @charlie1234500 3 роки тому +6

      And now the franchise is deader than dead.

    • @MasterOfFaster666
      @MasterOfFaster666 2 роки тому +2

      @@charlie1234500 We need a movie.

    • @tricksalot2
      @tricksalot2 2 роки тому +2

      if only they couldve had better follow ups after 64.

  • @hgbugalou
    @hgbugalou 5 років тому +54

    I remember playing Starfox in Sears for the first time back in the 90s when FX just came out. I was completely blown away by it and played that demo longer than any other game that ever was featured in those demo setups in Walmart and Sears. After getting the game for Christmas, it inspired me to make a 'simulator' in my room. It was basically a box that was covered with thick blankets to make it dark, with my 34" color CRT TV angled down against one of those low to the ground rocker chairs. Then I combined it with stereo speakers hooked through my radio/tap/CD player head unit. Then I figured a way to split the video from the SNES to an old black and white TV I had so I setup an 'operator' section of the simulator. The operator would flip on and off a flashing red light that was inside the 'cockpit' when you had critical damage, as well as pumping in bursts of smoke and shaking the frame that held everything up to simulate shit blowing up as you took damage (it was just a couple of cans of air freshener that was ducted into the 'cockpit' and a piece of cable tied to the frame that was pulled). We probably killed some brain cells inhaling all the propellant from the air freshener.
    Between the darkness, the stereo sound, and the TV being so close it took most of your visual field it really go you into the environment and your heart would pump playing.
    When Starfox 64 came it a few years later, I rebuilt the whole thing and it was even better.

    • @crono3339
      @crono3339 4 роки тому +4

      That sounds absolutely amazing. We used to put a blanket over my small tv and play Top gun on nes. Of course my little brother had to sit behind me as my copilot.

    • @rossbarr-scragg4076
      @rossbarr-scragg4076 Рік тому +1

      Mate, this sounds amazing! How on earth did you make a unit respond to instances in the game??

    • @hgbugalou
      @hgbugalou Рік тому +2

      @@rossbarr-scragg4076 It was just me or one of my friends watching what was happening on the second monitor outside of the "simulator" and then creating all the effects manually. On the back side there was an operator booth that had a cheap, tiny black and white TV, some light switches for alert lights inside, a pipe where "smoke" aka air freshener was sprayed in, and a few strings tied at various points that could be pulled to make panels and wires fall to simulate damage. Nothing fancy at all and completely manually operated by a human. That said I am very tempted to try and make something like this again now that I am older and understand electronics a lot more, and arduinos and such are so cheap and easy to program.

    • @rossbarr-scragg4076
      @rossbarr-scragg4076 Рік тому +3

      @@hgbugalou Absolutely love the creativity of 'Friendgineering' you had together. Get it up and running again! 'GOOD LUCK'⭐🦊🪐

    • @olsonbryce777
      @olsonbryce777 Рік тому +1

      @@hgbugalou wonderful story. Have you seen that device which is an LED strip you wrap around your TV that responds to the colors being displayed from the TV? For instance, if a fire is displayed the LED will glow bright red and orange and shimmer all about. It's very immersive

  • @Movie_Games
    @Movie_Games 4 роки тому +42

    I remember LOVING Stunt Race FX as a kid. I tried playing it today and the extremely low framerate actually made me physically ill. It's weird because Star Fox doesn't do that.

    • @BroodingAcorn
      @BroodingAcorn 3 роки тому +5

      because star fox runs smoother than stunt race FX. stunt race fx puts a heavier load on the super FX chip

    • @beemrmem3
      @beemrmem3 3 роки тому +5

      Star fox still looks like 15fps LOL

    • @markhaus
      @markhaus 2 роки тому +2

      It’s insane how much I played both games as a kid and today that frame rate just makes both unplayable. 3D was so novel back then that people would put up with basically anything for it

    • @olsonbryce777
      @olsonbryce777 Рік тому

      @@beemrmem3 you get used to it tho

  • @Riz2336
    @Riz2336 6 років тому +207

    Apparently Nintendo didn't really appreciate those guys work.

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  6 років тому +19

      +Riz2336 I tend to agree.

    • @feckingud
      @feckingud 5 років тому +3

      The relocation may not have been so well for the devs... Or they made them do work on a game they knew they will never release, making them loose their time while developping N64... Who knows.

    • @jerkfudgewater147
      @jerkfudgewater147 4 роки тому +7

      These kids showed up delivering THEE GAMES that expanded the Nintendo player base, DOOM & Star Fox, i can say that their games were the ones that every games playing kid in my school was talking about, how they were possible and the magical upgrade to the playing experience... if it turned out that these kids somehow made Golden Eye... well that would be too much

    • @lugaidster
      @lugaidster 4 роки тому +2

      @* AnimalHeadSpirit * What long history? Their relationship started in the 80s, by then, Nintendo had no history with unfair practices for devs. At all.

    • @kawanbruh
      @kawanbruh 4 роки тому

      Ikr

  • @SaccoBelmonte
    @SaccoBelmonte 7 років тому +82

    Sadly the Super FX was a transitional chip. Amazing nonetheless but short lived.
    I still remember trying StarFox on a special ship shaped booth on one Nintendo store. The ship had speakers on each side of the cockpit. I already knew starfox but the experience in the booth with stereo sound and a joystick was mind blowing. The most memorable moment, the selected planet zooming in, and it's wooooough! sound. And the "good luck" delayed on each ear....ahh man!
    I wish more people coded games like that, 3D but still 2D in a way too due to pixelation. It's an art on itself.

  • @thomaspleacher2735
    @thomaspleacher2735 7 років тому +262

    After watching this, Nintendo seems way less like a whimsical factory of magic and rainbows to me. It reminds me a little of their heavy handed policies with 3rd party software publishers in the NES days.

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  7 років тому +61

      +Thomas Pleacher yeah, I hear ya. Nintendo can certainly be jerks, particularly to 3rd party developers.

    • @Smokydoggg
      @Smokydoggg 6 років тому +39

      In those days they were sharks in the pond of fish. It doesn't take away from their importance in the history of video games, it's pretty common for the top company in any given field to strong-arm other companies with their influence and power. Microsoft and Walmart's business practices come to mind.

    • @justsomeguy8385
      @justsomeguy8385 6 років тому +51

      Yeah they pulled some shit with Sony too, but it ultimately just led to the creation of the Playstation, which really hurt Nintendo in the long run.

    • @foxymetroid
      @foxymetroid 6 років тому +12

      @kwyjibo O_o: That was after Sony tried to pull some shit with Nintendo. If the Nintendo Playstation was released, Sony would be the company that got the royalties from the CD game sales, which would have seriously hurt Nintendo. So Nintendo dumped them. Sony then tried to make a deal with Sega, but Sega of Japan basically told them to go fly a kite.

    • @Rationalific
      @Rationalific 6 років тому +16

      +Thomas Pleacher: Yeah. Almost every historical account dealing with Nintendo deals with how they screwed someone over or were jerks. (Unfair exclusivity, suing Game Genie, no blood Mortal Kombat, StarFox 2, and on and on.) Even now, they have fan games that include Mario removed, and although they have that right, Sega got fan game developers to make a game (Sonic Mania) for them. One thing Nintendo has over Sega, though, is that they still make great games with their classic characters, while Sega really does need fans from the outside to make great stuff for them.

  • @jameslighterGTR
    @jameslighterGTR 3 роки тому +11

    The composer Hajime Hirasawa had a falling out with Nintendo as well after Star Fox. Apparently over the ownership of the music he composed. The dude ended up basically inventing the technology for ringtones after getting into it with Nintendo, he's a CEO currently at his own company. Amazing that he came up with the major themes for Star Fox on game one, and dipped afterward with Nintendo obviously still using the music for decades. The design process for Star Fox was really groundbreaking and it seems like a lot can be learned about the industry from that game alone. Great work here, WWG that was enjoyable!

  • @dwindeyer
    @dwindeyer 4 роки тому +65

    What I find most impressive is that they made the chip cheap enough to include a GPU with every copy of the game

  • @randywatson8347
    @randywatson8347 6 років тому +167

    Doom on snes is quite an achievment.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 6 років тому +1

      Domm can run on a Printre, but is more an arechivement due to the number of sourceports.

    • @ViralKiller
      @ViralKiller 6 років тому +12

      you think that's impressive? check out FX fighter which was gonna be basically Virtua Fighter on the Snes, and commanche..both unreleased

    • @DannyCD
      @DannyCD 6 років тому +25

      I was so grateful that Doom came out on the SNES when I was a kid. I didn't have a PC and only had a SNES at best in '97. I saw the game on PC at a friend's house and I needed to have it. So I couldn't believe it when I saw Doom for the SNES behind a glass case at K-Mart back then. It had its shortcomings, but it was certainly better than not having Doom at all. Yes, it was quite an achievement.

    • @nightruler666
      @nightruler666 6 років тому +9

      Like Doom on the switch

    • @AlexOjideagu2
      @AlexOjideagu2 6 років тому +3

      Viral Killer FX fighter was released on pc

  • @seabit253
    @seabit253 6 років тому +224

    This is beautifully edited and written and definitely gives you the full picture. I actually learnt quite a lot from this. Nice work man.

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  6 років тому +5

      +CactusErebittsu Thanks for the kind words. I really enjoyed making this one. Thanks for checking the channel out.

    • @PEA600
      @PEA600 6 років тому +1

      Wrestling With Gaming I agree...the only problem I have is how you introduce your topic....it feels as though you are continuing from a previous topic....apart from that....I’m loving it :)

  • @IngeldGaming
    @IngeldGaming 7 років тому +51

    Really interesting video. I miss the 16 bit era for this reason; being able to beef up graphics by including additional hardware with the games themselves.

    • @inlovewithi
      @inlovewithi 6 років тому +4

      I was hoping for this ability for the Switch. For faster cheaper chips would be able to add extra abilities to it, after a year or two. But I don't think it has that ability.

    • @paul1979uk2000
      @paul1979uk2000 6 років тому

      Microsoft does have that online power thing for the Xbox One but it doesn't seem to deliver what they promised, as for the Switch, with how tech moves nowadays so fast, it's better to just release new consoles in a quicker cycle whiles keeping full compatibility, if Sony, Microsoft and NIntendo sticks to x86 and ARM's, that should be much easier to achieve a bit like how the PC can play pretty much any game going back decades.

    • @defeqel6537
      @defeqel6537 4 роки тому +5

      Moving from passively cooled systems to actively cooled ones, pretty much killed the idea (and of course the fact that games are now just digital). Adding any passively cooled system to an actively cooled one would see only minimal gains and be way more work and cost.

  • @niccusworth
    @niccusworth 6 років тому +33

    Great video, and mostly accurate. Argonaut was allowed to develop other games while working with Nintendo. Vortex was developed by Argonaut (and the first game I worked on), and published by Electro Brain - as well as a bunch of other SNES/PC games. Brought back some fond memories!

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  6 років тому +6

      +Nic Cusworth whoa, Nic Cusworth! This is a pleasant surprise. Thanks for taking the time out to watch the video. I'm glad you enjoyed it and I also appreciate the correction. When I get home from work I'll add a note about it to the video's description. Thanks for all of the memories from the games you've worked on and please excuse my fanboy moment 😊

    • @casinowilhelm
      @casinowilhelm 6 років тому +6

      Also, after the success of the FX chip, the chip design part of the business was spun off from Argonaut into a separate business called "Argonaut Risc Cores" (ARC) which survived way longer than daddy Argonaut - until 2009 when it was bought out. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synopsys#ARC_International. According to the blurb on wiki the SuperFX chip was initially sold to businesses as a general purpose accelerator and they developed it further into a range of chips which apparently are still shipped in bazillions of IoT type devices. I also used to work at Argonaut in the late 90s, the ARC crew took up the top floor of the office and they had a lot of very boring looking charts and whatnot on the walls, so I didn't pay much attention to them though they did join in with our Quake sessions after work . They were rubbish at it :)

  • @LordMarlle
    @LordMarlle 6 років тому +129

    Nintendo is like the cool kid in school, but he's really a douche towards everybody but he's soo good at sports and everything.
    Sega is like the friend you had that OD'd

    • @zakutheferret8182
      @zakutheferret8182 6 років тому +18

      And your friend SEGA always had the best indie movies, and the newest anime, and the coolest music you'd never heard of, and you had tons of fun with him even though he didn't have much money because that didn't matter, you could just hang out and have more fun than anywhere else anyway.
      RIP Sega, I didn't have a Genesis growing up but I had a Dreamcast in adolescence and I loved it so much.

    • @Firguy
      @Firguy 5 років тому +1

      Not really an appropriate comment to put your 'haha!' rubber stamp, there.

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  5 років тому +2

      I agree and deleted my comment. I'm pretty sure he edited his comment after I left mine but either way, I agree with you.

    • @thisisJim85
      @thisisJim85 4 роки тому

      That's dark

  • @jfitnesshealth
    @jfitnesshealth 6 років тому +106

    I hope they get paid after the SNES MINI CLASSIC since full Starfox 2 is on there.

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  6 років тому +44

      +jfitnesshealth they're not 😕. Technically Argonaut Games doesn't exist anymore so there isn't a company to pay.

    • @Tempora158
      @Tempora158 6 років тому +21

      Cut "them" a check? The individuals who worked on the game are not the one who gets royalty from the game, it's Argonaut, which doesn't exist anymore.

    • @deusexaethera
      @deusexaethera 6 років тому +4

      On a related note: Still no Tetris? What is wrong with Nintendo? Pay the damn licensing fee and include the most popular Nintendo game of all time already!

    • @mygaffer
      @mygaffer 6 років тому +4

      They don't own the IP anymore, they got screwed big.

    • @jon-erich9752
      @jon-erich9752 6 років тому +8

      How exactly would you pay them? The original contract was for Argonaut, not the individuals. That meant Argonaut would get the money and they decided who would get what? In order to give these individuals a paycheck, a new contract would have to be drawn up. Since StarFox 2 isn't being sold separately, that means that they would have to get a cut of the SNES classic edition profits. On top of that, the worth of the individual game in the collection of games might have to be determined. Unless they sued, which they would have no case for, they're not getting a paycheck.

  • @tomservo5347
    @tomservo5347 6 років тому +2

    Starfox...ah what memories for my 13 year old self. It was quite an experience playing for the very first time. The graphics of course, but the game play, music, variance of courses, and for the time fast screen rendering was an experience I'll never forget.
    Today if a teenager showed a company he had hacked their system they would immediately lawsuit him out of existence as the video game industry today is stifled as the indie game developer movement has shown.

  • @brett84c
    @brett84c 3 роки тому +4

    It's kind of sad how things fell apart for Argonaut especially given how talented they were and what they were capable of delivering on.

  • @jblsucks321
    @jblsucks321 7 років тому +44

    Very well structured and planned out. I enjoy how you stick to theme and story - keep it up and keep making documentaries and you will have 100k subs!

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  7 років тому +3

      +jblsucks321 Thanks! 100k would be nice but what I really want is a limo with giant horns on the hood like JBL used to have. Haha.

    • @7thHanyou
      @7thHanyou 7 років тому +4

      Gotta say, man, just discovered this channel yesterday and it's one of my favorite gaming channels already. Really good content. Look forward to seeing more of your output.

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  7 років тому +2

      +7thHanyou Thanks! Really appreciate it. I had a long list of topics I want to cover so there will be plenty more to come.

  • @RobertNES816
    @RobertNES816 6 років тому +5

    I loved the Super FX chip! As a kid I remember being blown away with it when I first played Star Fox. I remember all the adds that were around for it at the time to, the hype was all over the place. I also got Stunt Race FX as a birthday present for my 8th birthday. I loved playing that game and it just so happens to still be one of my all time favorite SNES games. I have the most nostalgia for that game and also the most memories playing it. I remember how impressed my Dad was when I first played Stunt Race FX. He was big into tech back then so he took the controller from me and started driving the buggy slowly around the track just looking at all the polygons and textures in amazement. So many fun memories from the 90's thanks to that little chip.

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  6 років тому

      +Robert NES816 Yeah man, I loved the Super FX chip games. As a kid it was like magic to me to see that kind of 3d on the SNES.

  • @fotografritz_
    @fotografritz_ 7 років тому +26

    what a fascinating story... It kinda seemed they had genius stroke of luck, but didn't have the experience to negotiate a more promising deal. The lack of success seemed to have made them choose to mostly produce license games - crap options but sure cash flow. Who knows what might have become of them, if Nintendo would have been more fair or more inclusive.

    • @700gsteak
      @700gsteak 6 років тому +5

      I dont think the Japanese pay that much to anyone, like Shigeru Miyamoto is only worth 40million even after all the great games hes released.

  • @arthurbrax6561
    @arthurbrax6561 6 років тому +29

    Hey my dude, awesome video but you forgot to mention that when the Nintendo/Argonaut deal ended Nintendo took some of the best people from argonaut with them and screwed them. The head of Argonaut said that he disliked Nintendo from then on in a Eurogamer interview. I would have been pissed as well

  • @CarsSimplified
    @CarsSimplified 6 років тому +40

    I wonder how the release of Star Fox 2 on the mini retro system went over with those that had been involved.

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  6 років тому +26

      +Cars Simplified Dylan Cuthbert has said in interviews that he's happy it's finally being released. Don't know about everyone else.

    • @girlsdrinkfeck
      @girlsdrinkfeck 6 років тому +12

      having your work being put out is worth more than money i guess

    • @jon-erich9752
      @jon-erich9752 6 років тому +5

      When it is something that happened decades ago, it's easier to get past it, especially since these guys seem to be doing pretty well for themselves.

    • @Aluze
      @Aluze 6 років тому +8

      Like most of us, probably would be happier if he could actually BUY it

    • @Nelwyn
      @Nelwyn 5 років тому

      I briefly tried it, but was unimpressed. I don't know if it's just because it's so many years later or that it wasn't similar enough to the first title which I beat many times.

  • @kirbymarchbarcena
    @kirbymarchbarcena 4 роки тому +5

    That M.A.R.I.O. acronym was a genius on Argonauts' part

  • @lookoutforchris
    @lookoutforchris 6 років тому +7

    6:30... the worlds first GPU? I don't know if it was the first but Silicon Graphics had a chip doing hardware accelerated triangles, transform, and lighting in 1982. They added texture mapping and other advanced features soon after. SGI was built around graphics hardware from day one and they had been producing generations of their chips for 10 years by the time the FX chips came along.

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  6 років тому +5

      I'm with you. That's why in the video I say that "Jez San (the founder of Argonaut) considers it the world's first GPU."
      It's something he's said in interviews before. I'm not saying that it actually is the world's first GPU. In hindsight I probably could've been a little more clear by adding something like, "although others disagree, Je San personally considers it the world's first GPU." I can see how someone might miss that I say it's JEz's opinion.

  • @Luix
    @Luix 6 років тому +1

    very nice advertisement in spanish, that was on a VHS on the magazine "hobbyconsolas"

  • @erniesdeck7550
    @erniesdeck7550 6 років тому +3

    I just discovered this channel, and after watching a couple of videos. . . I'm pretty much a fan of the channel now. Thanks for the content!

  • @lojakz
    @lojakz 6 років тому +2

    Well, you got a new subscriber. I've watched 2 of your vids now and I'm hooked. Love the history of gaming (both video and tabletop) so I'm happy to have found your channel.

  • @cthru2k
    @cthru2k 6 років тому +3

    I loved StarFox and was very impressed with the 3D graphics when I first loaded up this cartridge into my SNES. I am even more impressed with it now, I always thought the FX chip is something Nintendo made. Thank you for this.

    • @XrisD147
      @XrisD147 4 роки тому

      Outsourcing, a standard business practice.

  • @prinzbach
    @prinzbach 4 роки тому

    Damn ! What a story... Never knew it was that crazy. Great work ! I'm pretty sure it was a long and hard work to go and dig for all those details !

  • @carloscoy6635
    @carloscoy6635 6 років тому +12

    Damn i remember that starfox commercial

  • @aham2903
    @aham2903 6 років тому

    These series are so great. I hope your channel gets huge. Definitely underrated.

  • @dwarfbunni
    @dwarfbunni 6 років тому +27

    "all it took was putting a little faith in a couple of kids"
    man, if only the inspirational speakers in highschool were that good.

    • @Taporeee
      @Taporeee 6 років тому +1

      Art blender
      The Alex Ferguson effect

  • @acethebest6028
    @acethebest6028 6 років тому +44

    Have you noticed that many 2D games from the old days have aged much better than early 3D games?

    • @josecarlosxyz
      @josecarlosxyz 4 роки тому +3

      That’s because polygons don’t age very well

    • @SomePotato
      @SomePotato 4 роки тому +6

      Yeah, but to be fair, 2600 games also don't age like a Monkey Island.

    • @albertnortononymous9020
      @albertnortononymous9020 3 роки тому +2

      Idk every game for the magnavox odyssey kinda sucks

    • @willissudweeks1050
      @willissudweeks1050 3 роки тому +1

      I like Mario Kart and Star Fox for 64 but the SNES versions are almost unplayable for me.

    • @georgezubat7225
      @georgezubat7225 Рік тому +2

      Early 2D games didn't age too well either. New things take time to get right.

  • @johnlewisbrooks
    @johnlewisbrooks 6 років тому +5

    To this day i remember seeing the final boss of Starfox. The giant face still scares the shit right out of me!
    XD!

  • @torgrimmyt3549
    @torgrimmyt3549 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for this entertaining mini doc. Quite an interesting story around this particular chip and you even covered some of the technical aspects.

  • @QuarterSwede
    @QuarterSwede 6 років тому +1

    This was the most informative video I’ve seen on the SuperFX chip history. You’ve earned another sub Sir. Kudos!

  • @s1rb1untly
    @s1rb1untly 6 років тому +2

    Nintendo should have included the SuperFX co-processor on the SNES mainboard. It'd have been worth a $30 price bump, given that it's inclusion would have really pushed the SNES far above and beyond the capabilites of the Mega Drive/Genesis and the PC-Engine/TurboGrafx

  • @therealjasonpark
    @therealjasonpark 3 роки тому +1

    Super interesting! Love learning about the business/technical side behind beloved childhood memories.

  • @superdan5617
    @superdan5617 6 років тому +2

    Nice work! I'm not even really into video games, but you made this very interesting. I subbed!

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  6 років тому

      +Super Dan Wow, thanks so much. That's probably the best compliment I could get on my work. Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @CastleKnight7
    @CastleKnight7 2 роки тому +1

    I remember taking this home from the shop, plugging it in and being blown away by the graphics and gameplay!

  • @MorganIsAway
    @MorganIsAway 3 роки тому

    Great documentary, all the videos i have watched of yours so far are awesome!

  • @TheMovieCreator
    @TheMovieCreator 6 років тому +1

    2:36 - In Europe, there was a game called "Elite" released for the NES in 1991. This predates X in being the first 3D-game on a Nintendo device.

  • @jaymounes9473
    @jaymounes9473 6 років тому +2

    Thank you, this took a refreshing level of depth, and even if you don't work in 3D graphics you seem to at least understand the terms on a basic level. I don't know about the first GPU though... you'll have to ask someone else but I think it'll be contentious.

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  6 років тому

      +Jay Mounes thanks, glad you enjoyed it. I agree, it's up for debate whether or not it was really the first GPU. I made this so long ago I'd need to go back and watch but I believe i said that it was Jez San that considered it the world's fittest GPU, which is what I found he said during an interview when I was researching the FX chip. I couldn't personally find something comparable before it that was dedicated to graphics on the same level but I'd be lying if I said it was my area of expertise. Jez did like to talk a big game so I suspect he was exaggerating a bit.

  • @1anre
    @1anre 4 роки тому +1

    Glad to learn about all these technicalities behind the development of some of these outstanding games. Wish parents & primary school science teachers had videos like these back then so they’d fully disregard the hobby of gaming and actually appreciate that it took really intelligent people to make those games that kept us captivated in from our CRT TVs back then.

  • @vinman3773
    @vinman3773 6 років тому +1

    i love your channel. subscribed. this is some interesting video game history. well done man

  • @demonsty
    @demonsty 3 роки тому +1

    i remember being blown away by starfox and out of this world on snes as a kid

  • @atroise
    @atroise 6 років тому +2

    F Zero was 3D, I was a child when I first played it 1991, I remember getting dizzy trying to play it, took me a while to get used to it

    • @foxymetroid
      @foxymetroid 6 років тому +3

      2D with scaling and rotation.

  • @8KilgoreTrout4
    @8KilgoreTrout4 4 роки тому

    I had to sub. Been watching several of your videos recently and I'm like damn this is a great channel

  • @user-zw4wh1tm9x
    @user-zw4wh1tm9x 6 років тому +2

    very informative and well edited, you got a new sub

  • @esnebta
    @esnebta 5 місяців тому

    This is one of my favorite videos on UA-cam. It's encouraging me to reach out to developers of projects that have influenced mine

  • @robertwilson3866
    @robertwilson3866 Рік тому +1

    The SNES is still the most recent console I own. I am very happy the Super FX chip was made because it meant I didn't have to buy a new console to play the new 3D games. There are still many games on the SNES I have yet to play. I love it!

  • @thanasysdim
    @thanasysdim 4 роки тому

    Super FX was amazing back then. I remember how it seemed to us when we first played Starfox. There are simply no words to describe the awesomeness of that game. Nice video. Thank you for this.

  • @duane8620
    @duane8620 4 роки тому

    Damn... I am so upset I've only just now found this channel. Really great video!

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  4 роки тому

      Thanks. Appreciate it. This video is one of my oldest and way behind production quality of my current stuff so I'm really glad you liked it lol. This is my latest
      ua-cam.com/video/SjCivnt5t50/v-deo.html

  • @mattwigley203
    @mattwigley203 6 років тому

    Absolutely love your channel! Have been extremely sick, but the bright side is, I have had the time to binge watch nearly all your videos. Definitely earned a sub and a like on each. Keep up the great work, I look forward to many more!

  • @Simonio8
    @Simonio8 4 роки тому +1

    It just shows you Nintendo isn't quite as wholesome as you think it is. Very well made and informative video, I enjoyed a lot.

  • @MrMekmek29
    @MrMekmek29 6 років тому

    Another great video! Didn’t know that the fx chip wasn’t an original Nintendo IP. Maybe Argonaut games leaked the copy of star fox 2 in the internet out of sheer frustration. This is the kind of content you rarely see covered when talking about retro gaming. Good work sir!

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  6 років тому +1

      +MrMekmek29 thanks! There were actually a couple versions of it that were leaked. One of them is a very early version that has a debug menu and a multiplayer head to head feature that was taken out of the final version. I didn't really go into it in the video since it's more about the chip that anything but it's a neat little tidbit of info.

  • @Valitzu777
    @Valitzu777 5 років тому

    How do you not have like 2 million subs already? You're awesome! Fantastically produced video, it was a real pleasure to watch and learn... It sucks that Argonaut didn't achieve the HUGE success they so deserved... they should be up there as one of the big AAA companies like Naughty Dog & Rockstar, setting the trend and pushing the heck out of the consoles and PC hardware...

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  5 років тому +1

      Thanks, I appreciate it! Glad you liked the video. Unfortunately with UA-cam these days it's hard for a channel to gain traction except through word of mouth.
      It really is too bad about Argonaut. Thankfully, pretty much everyone involved went on to be very successful afterwards.

    • @Valitzu777
      @Valitzu777 5 років тому

      Keep it up brother... IMHO, you clearly have what it takes, a great narrators/speaking voice, fantastic video editing skills and you've provided a well presented/researched piece to give the audience all the facts. RE: Argonaut, Yes, however, the level of success could have been so much greater for all those fellows involved with Argonaut in my opinion... Hey, Dylan Cuthbert is a better man than I, I would have had a huge problem swallowing my pride and having to do ANYTHING with Nintendo afterward... But I understand, a man has to pay the bills :) Well, I truly hope that they continue to thrive successfully in one way or another in the software/hardware industry... To me, these fellas are in the same respected light that reminds of John Carmack and I would hate to know that John Carmack (even though is now with FB) would soon ever pack up his bags and move to Tahiti, sipping on mai tais and not wanting to ever do anything more with the industry...

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  5 років тому +1

      Thanks again man 😊.
      Dylan is such a good dude. He actually was nice enough to provide a correction for me on the first version of this video I made. Really talented guy too.

  • @OptimizedOptimism
    @OptimizedOptimism Рік тому

    I'm a big Starfox fan from growing up, the first title (known over here in the UK as Starting) was the first game I ever played and completed. I never actually knew about the importance of the FX chip until a retrospective article I read in Nintendo Official Magazine in 2005, to celebrate the review and release of Starfox Assault, and how it was a group of young English developers that got the chip and the groundwork for the first game going, and then learning about the (then) unreleased sequel. I'm pretty open with the series in terms of loving 64 just as much as Adventures (Rareware fan also) through to Assault and Command, but I always appreciate learning more and more about Argonauts and how they got Starfox up and running :)

  • @spritefun9362
    @spritefun9362 6 років тому +1

    I love me some gaming documentary playlists, you won me over easily :D

  • @ckent23
    @ckent23 6 років тому +1

    Well done. I only learned a few months ago that the FX chip was built into the cartridge , I always thought it was in the system. Really amazing engineering.

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  6 років тому

      +ckent23 thanks man. Yeah, it's pretty incredible what they were able to do with it.

  • @mtshark7
    @mtshark7 6 років тому

    Awesome documentary man! I had no idea there were 8 SNES games that used the Super FX chip. That's pretty neat learning about all the details of this chip that I've never knew before.

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  6 років тому +1

      +mtshark7 Thanks 😊. Here's another fun tidbit about one of the Super FX chip games. The snes version of Doom supports the SNES mouse that came bundled with Mario Paint. It's (as far as I know) the only console version of Doom that can be played with a mouse

    • @mtshark7
      @mtshark7 6 років тому

      Ah yes, I've actually found out about that earlier this year. I should pickup a Retron SNES laser mouse and see how that works.

  • @YavinPrime
    @YavinPrime 4 роки тому +1

    It's unfortunate that Nintendo didn't just buy out the small Studio and turn them into in-house developers. They seemed to have a lot of really good ideas.

  • @sonictimm
    @sonictimm 6 років тому +1

    This is a beautifully made documentary!
    Instant sub

  • @austins.2495
    @austins.2495 6 років тому +4

    How do you not have more subscribers? Great videos

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  6 років тому +1

      +Austin HasAgun thanks man, I appreciate it! It just takes a long time to build up subs unless UA-cam decides to heavily promote your channel. Hopefully the subscribers will eventually come. I'm just glad that the people that have found the channel generally seem to enjoy the videos.

  • @MK-lk7nc
    @MK-lk7nc 5 років тому

    Your videos are very well done. Thanks for this.

  • @thetinpin
    @thetinpin 6 років тому +1

    Awesome work! Learned a bunch!

  • @DoomFinger511
    @DoomFinger511 6 років тому +3

    Not to defend Nintendo but a lot of people don't realize that the monopoly Nintendo had on video games in the late 80's and 90's was only a thing in North America. In Europe and other parts of the world Nintendo had MUCH more competition. There was never a video game bubble burst outside of North America that left a void for Nintendo to fill. So all the gaming publishers had strong sales outside of NA which gave Nintendo less leverage.

  • @Kaynos
    @Kaynos 6 років тому +4

    Amazing how far we've come in the past 25 years.

  • @HedgehogStudios1
    @HedgehogStudios1 6 років тому +45

    Nowadays Nintendo would probably just sue anyone that makes a technological breakthrough with their hardware and then steal the idea 2 years later.

  • @GottgleicherMaster
    @GottgleicherMaster 6 років тому +1

    what a well made video. you deserve much more attention. now start wathcing your other videos :)

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  6 років тому

      +Marc Tißler thanks! Glad you liked it. This was one of my favorite ones to make.

  • @JohnnyCagePro
    @JohnnyCagePro 6 років тому +14

    What kind of geniuses were those guys at Argonaut anyway lol.
    A developer fairy tale.

    • @kanesmith8271
      @kanesmith8271 5 років тому +2

      It was a generation of miracles

  • @cand7e7ack
    @cand7e7ack 7 років тому

    love this channel man! keep it up!

  • @GTV-Japan
    @GTV-Japan 6 років тому +10

    One of the things I recall from the early 90s with the fx chip was constant reminders of not having to buy an add on for high level graphics. Of course in America we never got anything to expand hardware but in Japan there were all kinds of things out but each one let Nintendo not have complete control on everything how they liked it

    • @virgobro2025
      @virgobro2025 6 років тому +6

      Meanwhile on PC...

    • @wasd____
      @wasd____ 5 років тому +1

      The FX chip claiming to eliminate the need to buy an add-on for high level graphics was a lie. You were buying a hardware add-on, it was just embedded in the cart instead of a system module. What's more, you had to buy the same add-on all over again with every single game (because every cart needed its own chip), instead of being able to buy it once and be done. It was a brilliant way to pump gamers for cash by invisibly (and unnecessarily) selling them the same piece of add-on hardware multiple times, while claiming to let them "avoid add-ons."

  • @chooseymomschoose
    @chooseymomschoose 6 років тому +1

    My teenage mind was blown by Starfox. Now, I look at it and think, "Wuzzat? 10? Maybe 15 FPS?" I love watching emulators outrun the soundtrack in the intro sequence now. Fantastic game, though.

  • @lifeonleo1074
    @lifeonleo1074 2 роки тому

    Very good documentary, well done. I am always amazed at what some kids are doing at age 16 and 18 my goodness.

  • @zaptrotix3
    @zaptrotix3 6 років тому +1

    brilliant video, man! Congratulations!

  • @ohmytoshi
    @ohmytoshi 4 роки тому

    Thanks for uploading. Now I can see what was going on back then.

  • @lolwut5235
    @lolwut5235 6 років тому

    Great material, looking forward for more of your videos. May I suggest something on Action 52 and Active enterprises perhaps? (The anti argonauts) lol.

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  6 років тому

      +Chris C thanks! I've actually been considering Action 52 myself. Just gotta see how much I can dig up.

  • @CosmicD
    @CosmicD 2 роки тому

    I can't express how massively hyped i was for star fox, as a teenager who was dreaming about games looking more real , star fox was that leap forward. The woman at the videogame store must have been tired of me always showing up nearly every day in the store to play the version she had long before it was released here.

  • @imaxjunior6531
    @imaxjunior6531 4 роки тому

    The Presentation is of this video is Awesome. I was so captivated i forgot that i was not watching a movie. Great job.

  • @freeedom22
    @freeedom22 6 років тому +1

    Fascinating story, great rendition! Keep going !

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  6 років тому +1

      +freeedom22 thanks! It was one my favorite videos that I've done so far. I wasn't doing anything nearly as important at their age!

    • @freeedom22
      @freeedom22 6 років тому +1

      Wrestling With Gaming I thought exactly the same when I heard of the guy being 18 years old !

  • @beardupbeerdown7355
    @beardupbeerdown7355 6 років тому

    That Star Fox commercial is wild. What a trip.

  • @pulphope
    @pulphope 6 років тому

    I grew up literally around the corner from Argonaut House, a building they bought and were based at in Edgware (North London); had no idea what they did at the time

  • @juergenhaas3530
    @juergenhaas3530 6 років тому +1

    I hardly knew any of what the video told. Thank you!

  • @aarongreenfield9038
    @aarongreenfield9038 3 роки тому +1

    It is amazing how they could make such great games was so very little. Even just a few seconds of this video is bigger than most super nes games.

  • @Demeterkitty
    @Demeterkitty 7 років тому +27

    Anyone notice the Back to the Future theme music in the Spanish SuperFX promo clip?

    • @WrestlingWithGaming
      @WrestlingWithGaming  7 років тому +4

      +Demeterkitty I know, right? So strange.

    • @Sean-D78
      @Sean-D78 6 років тому +8

      Demeterkitty they were probably too lazy to make their own music

    • @CarsSimplified
      @CarsSimplified 6 років тому +2

      I noticed that too; I wonder if/how they got away with that. The movie was pretty recent back then.

    • @girlsdrinkfeck
      @girlsdrinkfeck 6 років тому

      wel lit suits it

    • @Azuris190
      @Azuris190 5 років тому

      Maybe the Copyrights where not so hard back than or they just licenced it :>

  • @TheAlphaOmegaX3
    @TheAlphaOmegaX3 6 років тому +1

    Fantastic video. Extremely interesting and masterfully put together. Sub! Thank you.

  • @dynamicsketch
    @dynamicsketch 5 років тому +1

    I'm surprised that Star Fox was a commercial success. Back in the 90s I couldn't tell if anyone actually liked it since they would sneer at the mention of Star Fox or its commercial as well as the announcement of Star Fox 2. I felt as if I was the only one who liked the franchise. A few years ago I was so excited to secure a pre-order for the Super NES Classic so that I could finally try Star Fox 2 after 20 years of waiting and I did not feel disappointed. As dated as that game is I still enjoyed it more than Star Fox Zero. Like Star Fox 64, Star Fox 2 was designed for multiple playthroughs. Shame that Argonaut went under because they developed a great game. I would love a Star Fox 3 to continue with that series instead of its two reboots, Star Fox 64 and Star Fox Zero.

  • @joemacdonald1980
    @joemacdonald1980 6 років тому

    Great video! Keep up the great work.

  • @artkingofwholefoods74
    @artkingofwholefoods74 3 роки тому

    WOW! I wasn’t aware that they felt slighted. Thank you!

  • @crispybuns742
    @crispybuns742 Рік тому

    In 2017, The final finished build of Starfox 2 was shipped as an unlockable on the snes classic.

  • @jasonsteel9335
    @jasonsteel9335 6 років тому +1

    Awesome video, dude!

  • @ChroniclesofAJ
    @ChroniclesofAJ 7 років тому +3

    Very informative i like how u break it down

  • @michaelswitzer2121
    @michaelswitzer2121 6 років тому

    That old star fox tv ad brings back so much memory's

  • @afriend9428
    @afriend9428 3 роки тому +1

    *Wow! 2 teen made the Supet FX chip!* ⭐️

  • @eysikal
    @eysikal 7 років тому +1

    Really well done. Loved it.

  • @Optidorf
    @Optidorf 3 роки тому

    I also thought that Super Mario RPG used the Super FX chip, but apparently that's another chipset. According to Wikipedia 34 SNES/Super Famicom titles used an enhanced chip.

  • @emiel333
    @emiel333 2 роки тому

    Very insightful video. Thank you, I really love ❤️ your channel.

  • @JKZEROkenjiMB
    @JKZEROkenjiMB 6 років тому +2

    I'll be hype as ever when I play Starfox 2 on the mini. ^^