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  • I've taken the time to go over the latest GigaLeak 2 - the massive Nintendo 64 leak of source code that occurred over the weekend. Source code and assets to Super Mario 64, The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time, Wave Race 64 and more have leaked. Here is what I've discovered.
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    ► CuckyDev - • SM64 - Luigi Restored
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  • @ModernVintageGamer
    @ModernVintageGamer  4 роки тому +1943

    A few notes and corrections (stuff is happening fast!)
    - There has been successful compilation of Dr Mario from the source code. Correction : i've been told that Dr Mario has complete source code
    - iQue DRM was broken in 2018. However AFAIK i dont believe the method was ever publicly released
    - If i credited someone incorrectly or didn't credit let me know.
    - Stop leaking stuff so i can go back to making Copy Protection videos lol

    • @LtCmdrAmbrose
      @LtCmdrAmbrose 4 роки тому +105

      Your eyebrows are beautiful ;)

    • @thekornreeper
      @thekornreeper 4 роки тому +36

      Calan Reichel , also the salt and pepper beard

    • @EBCHILL2
      @EBCHILL2 4 роки тому +25

      Thank you for working so hard making these videos

    • @panreyes2
      @panreyes2 4 роки тому +34

      I loved the last point 🤣

    • @kyugiyeneku1803
      @kyugiyeneku1803 4 роки тому +86

      iQue player hacking scene is very active server is here convinient called iQueBrew but it is hardly known that the scene even exists and the methide to hack it is public
      discord.gg/4g3ZUkD
      Maybe you can make "How iQue Player protection was cracked" lol it is Nintendos first online service afterall

  • @BlueYoshi
    @BlueYoshi 4 роки тому +2895

    People: do you support the leaks?
    MVG: The law requires that I say no.

    • @Lobothemainman23
      @Lobothemainman23 4 роки тому +482

      I do not condone this. Now let me break it all down and explain how awesome this is!

    • @6581punk
      @6581punk 4 роки тому +105

      There's a difference between breaking some sort of stupid user licence for your hardware by modifying it and hacking into someones network and stealing all their code.

    • @funkybuttloving
      @funkybuttloving 4 роки тому +67

      BlueYoshi-57EML MVG making too much money off of YT to jeopardize his channel by flat out advocating hacking/piracy... but we all know the deal

    • @SelecaoOfMidas
      @SelecaoOfMidas 4 роки тому +5

      There a problem with that?

    • @jhonbus
      @jhonbus 4 роки тому +104

      @@6581punk There's also a difference between doing it 20 years ago and doing it 20 years after the console was obsolete, though.

  • @Trimint123
    @Trimint123 4 роки тому +1051

    I think you forgot one thing about the case of Luigi:
    In Japanese article, fans ask if Luigi was planned during the development, which Miyamoto stated it was planned for multiplayer split-screen. But due to memory restriction, they had to scrap that idea.
    So in my theory, this model of Luigi was used of the planned multiplayer, which also explains why his model is basically just Mario but taller as it wasn't being made yet.

    • @bl4ckw1ngz64
      @bl4ckw1ngz64 4 роки тому +35

      Too bad the DD expansion idea didn't come in until F Zero eh

    • @littlenyancat5754
      @littlenyancat5754 4 роки тому +49

      @@bl4ckw1ngz64 And too bad the DD was pretty much a complete failure

    • @m0kkori
      @m0kkori 4 роки тому +55

      In older games, Luigi always looked like a color-swapped Mario so it makes sense that he's just a "taller Mario"

    • @rebelo2025
      @rebelo2025 4 роки тому +14

      @@littlenyancat5754 It wasn't a failure, Nintendo just thought it wasn't good enough for the US market. If Nintendo hadn't delayed the 64 and the 64DD and released it to the US market it would've sold millions

    • @Electro69420
      @Electro69420 4 роки тому +2

      That is what I think of the theory, finally someone sees it like that too

  • @adamcartermi5
    @adamcartermi5 4 роки тому +811

    MVG talking like he has been compromised. MVG blink once if the nintendo lawyers called you, blink twice if they are still there.

    • @Deoxy360
      @Deoxy360 4 роки тому +68

      Nintendo Lawyer
      *behind the camera*
      Good! Good! Keep reading the script.

    • @adamcartermi5
      @adamcartermi5 4 роки тому +66

      Deoxy360 yup!
      Hacker community: MVG What’s wrong with wolfie... I can hear him barking. Is he ok?
      MVG: Wolfie’s fine honey. Wolfie’s just fine. Where are you?

    • @rebelo2025
      @rebelo2025 4 роки тому +27

      *There is no Luigi in Ba Sing Se There is no Luigi in Ba Sing Se*

    • @kat5607
      @kat5607 4 роки тому +12

      his vibes arent as positive as theyre usually

    • @trevorrogers95
      @trevorrogers95 4 роки тому +4

      AdamCarter MI5 lmao great reference bro 😂

  • @Denshi
    @Denshi 4 роки тому +2263

    Nintendo's accidentally going open source lol

    • @ygx6
      @ygx6 4 роки тому +23

      Ikr

    • @Nintendo_fanboy87
      @Nintendo_fanboy87 4 роки тому +10

      lol lol

    • @vurpo7080
      @vurpo7080 4 роки тому +76

      If it was open source then emulator developers would actually be able to use this stuff, but they can't.

    • @DirtyRobot
      @DirtyRobot 4 роки тому +19

      China is trying to score some points but fails to understand the environment.

    • @guilhermehey3736
      @guilhermehey3736 4 роки тому +37

      Nintendo:HOW DARE YOU DISCOVER WEEGE,GONNA KILL YOU

  • @Dreddtube
    @Dreddtube 4 роки тому +815

    They should hire another plumber to fix that leak as their current one is too busy driving karts, playing tennis or dealing with origamis elsewhere.

    • @duragdee2760
      @duragdee2760 4 роки тому +20

      'Origamis' I'm done.😂

    • @NuclearTopSpot
      @NuclearTopSpot 4 роки тому +56

      He be eating shrooms all day and fighting a giant lizard dragon turtle, while running through colorful landscapes. boy is just trippin'

    • @retropuffer2986
      @retropuffer2986 4 роки тому +1

      I see what you did there.

    • @noellewastaken
      @noellewastaken 4 роки тому +11

      They should hire Sponge

    • @Shlonzs
      @Shlonzs 4 роки тому +3

      You forgot going to the moon

  • @renakunisaki
    @renakunisaki 4 роки тому +783

    To clarify: the source has Luigi files, but those files never got put into the original game.

    • @Logan_935
      @Logan_935 4 роки тому +87

      Yes. This would indicate Luigi was planned in some form to be in the game but does not confirm he was in any actual build of the game. People seem to make this mistake as some think something existing means it had to be.

    • @medicwheat69
      @medicwheat69 4 роки тому +22

      And now someone might compile a Rom with them restored.

    • @true_neutral3378
      @true_neutral3378 4 роки тому +13

      @Burger King Nationalism you mean the younger version of Mr T?

    • @StormBurnX
      @StormBurnX 4 роки тому +5

      Christopher already done lol. Modders work fast

    • @bleepbloopblahp
      @bleepbloopblahp 4 роки тому +46

      Iwata:
      Ever since Mario Bros., you've had your heart set on making a multiplayer Mario game. You've tried each time, but it's never quite come together… Even with Mario 64, it started with Mario and Luigi running around together, didn't it?
      Miyamoto:
      That's right. The screen was split and they went into the castle separately. When they meet in the corridor, I was incredibly happy! (laughs) Then there was also the mode where the camera is fixed and we see Mario running away, steadily getting smaller and smaller.
      Iwata:
      Yes, that's right.
      Miyamoto:
      That was a remnant of an experiment we did where Mario and Luigi would run away from each other but you could still see them both. But we were unable to pull it off…
      iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/wii/nsmb/0/5

  • @beardalaxy
    @beardalaxy 4 роки тому +168

    Hearing the uncompressed star fox voice lines was pure bliss. All of the high res zelda items are really awesome too. Even if what happened was obviously illegal, for preservation sake it's incredibly valuable. Nintendo themselves claimed to no longer have the original voice lines for star fox but now the whole world has them.

    • @Wyatt_James
      @Wyatt_James 4 роки тому +35

      Well it could be that Nintendo themselves didn't have it. This was BroadOn stuff after all, so maybe they had it kicking around and Nintendo didn't know.

    • @j.a.g816
      @j.a.g816 4 роки тому +10

      I mean they still use captain falcons voice lines from 64. They have never changed captans voice since 65

    • @angolin9352
      @angolin9352 4 роки тому +24

      @@j.a.g816 Ah, Super Smash Bros. 65, the forbidden sequel to SSB64

    • @kwizzeh
      @kwizzeh 4 роки тому +28

      @@Wyatt_James This 100%. A former contractor, distributer or even collector for whatever reason just happens to have a copy of media. Happens all the time in restoration projects.

    • @j.a.g816
      @j.a.g816 4 роки тому +1

      @@angolin9352 yeah

  • @jackmcslay
    @jackmcslay 4 роки тому +76

    You know what I like best about this? That someone had the care to preserve these in first place even if they didn't intend to make if public.

    • @lordzooq8987
      @lordzooq8987 4 роки тому +15

      Eh. They more than likely did it incase they needed the source code for future projects. They wanted to make sure if they needed to make money on those titles in the future they could

    • @irrelevoice
      @irrelevoice 4 роки тому +22

      @@lordzooq8987 You can't underestimate how easy it is to lose information, the fact they've preserved all this for 30+ years is more than you can say about other more modern developers.

    • @TheXev
      @TheXev 4 роки тому +5

      Nintendo requires source code submissions for every game they release, so Nintendo also should have a copy of every officially released game even from 3rd parties going at LEAST as far back as the SNES. SquareEnix was able to get the source code for Seiken Densetu 3 from Nintendo to use as a base for the remake, which is why Trials of Mana for SNES is a Switch exclusive (or so they say).
      Sega also generally keeps great track of their source code, as most of their 1st party titles have been rereleased on other systems without emulation.

    • @lordzooq8987
      @lordzooq8987 4 роки тому +1

      @@irrelevoice Every company keeps records, its as simple as having a place to store and keep it as well as having staff dedicated to doing so. Its not like storing data/information for that long is impossible. I see what he's saying but their intents werent that pure and the process isnt that rare, thats all im pointing out. Thats all im saying. If you think thats the most wonderful thing in the world youre more than entitled to have that view, friend. Its just not that impressive to me personally.

    • @irrelevoice
      @irrelevoice 4 роки тому +5

      @@lordzooq8987 Some companies mishandle their files, there are stories of remakes going wrong because the source code was missing or incomplete. I just pointed out preservation is a good thing, I didn't say Nintendo's the all time holy savior of data, you act like I offended you somehow.

  • @aarongreenfield9038
    @aarongreenfield9038 4 роки тому +212

    For being a plumber, Mario Doesn't seem so good at fixing leaks.

    • @anterax4097
      @anterax4097 4 роки тому +9

      He’s much too busy saving princesses

    • @aarongreenfield9038
      @aarongreenfield9038 4 роки тому +16

      @@anterax4097. He doesn't seem to be good at that either, she always seems to be in another castle.

    • @TheUltimateMarioFan
      @TheUltimateMarioFan 4 роки тому +4

      I'm-a the best! You haven't seen nothing yet!

    • @MakeItWithJim
      @MakeItWithJim 4 роки тому +1

      Ooft

    • @wesleyesq7306
      @wesleyesq7306 4 роки тому

      Is he even still a plumber?

  • @theharvardyard2356
    @theharvardyard2356 4 роки тому +225

    1080p was ahead of it's time. High definition snowboarding on the N64 is a technical marvel!

    • @alessandrob.g.4524
      @alessandrob.g.4524 4 роки тому +2

      lol

    • @samuelthecamel
      @samuelthecamel 4 роки тому +4

      I see what you did there

    • @Music-tg5is
      @Music-tg5is 4 роки тому +20

      Especially, since there were no displays available in the 90s capable of displaying it's native resolution. A game well and truly ahead of its time...

    • @BCDeshiG
      @BCDeshiG 4 роки тому +20

      John Carmack had a 1080p monitor in 1995 I believe

    • @theharvardyard2356
      @theharvardyard2356 4 роки тому +13

      @@BCDeshiG True. He had a Intergraph 28hd96 which could display 2048 x 1152 @ 80Hz

  • @joes2857
    @joes2857 4 роки тому +39

    Man I really hope the full source for Starfox 64 comes out. Imagine a PC version using all the uncompressed assets. IMAGINE SLIPPY PESTERING YOU CONSTANTLY IN FLAC QUALITY
    Well, I think it would be the bee's knees.

    • @CaptainCoolzCT-
      @CaptainCoolzCT- 4 роки тому +5

      They found every voice file in the game uncompressed, so maybe there is a full source code somewhere.

    • @joes2857
      @joes2857 4 роки тому +5

      @@CaptainCoolzCT- from what I can tell, it's mostly object files. There's only 2 or 3 actual source files unfortunately... but maybe in the next leak 👌👌👌

  • @facastello
    @facastello 4 роки тому +99

    Well at least we now have the full source code for Zelda: Link's Awakening on the Game Boy

    • @the.internet
      @the.internet 4 роки тому +11

      One of my all time favourites.

    • @gvcvbbhvbbccxcvn
      @gvcvbbhvbbccxcvn 4 роки тому +4

      Someone should port it to pc imo

    • @Music-tg5is
      @Music-tg5is 4 роки тому +5

      Let's re-skin it and sell it as 'Conker's Bad Morning After Super Turbo REDUX Champions Edition."

    • @babyvee7615
      @babyvee7615 4 роки тому +1

      best zelda game imo

    • @the.internet
      @the.internet 4 роки тому +1

      @@babyvee7615 best Gameboy game imo (and I agree best Zelda too)

  • @shopliftfilms
    @shopliftfilms 4 роки тому +3

    Haha you said at 5:56 1080p instead of 1080 snowboarding. Lol video formats got us all messed up. Great video as usual!

  • @TheRyanBre
    @TheRyanBre 4 роки тому +14

    I look forward to every video on your channel man! It’s great having someone who can break down the technical talk that goes over my head and all of these leaks.

  • @metroidmayhem8463
    @metroidmayhem8463 4 роки тому +42

    I love seeing mvg explain these leaks. The perfect youtuber for the job.

    • @trinity_null
      @trinity_null 4 роки тому +5

      Metroid Mayhem
      I just wish he didn't feel the need to talk like there's a gun behind the camera

    • @metroidmayhem8463
      @metroidmayhem8463 4 роки тому +3

      @@trinity_null Oh that's because Nintendos lawyers are there. Watching him out of the camera shot.

    • @MDLuffy1234YT
      @MDLuffy1234YT 3 роки тому +1

      We need to check the Wave Race 64 files for Totaka's Song

  • @Dasaltwarrior
    @Dasaltwarrior 4 роки тому +189

    And they dont stop comin, and they dont stop comin, and they dont stop comin.

    • @thebeastwithin6978
      @thebeastwithin6978 4 роки тому +13

      And they don’t stop coming and they don’t stop coming and they don’t stop coming

    • @trevorrogers95
      @trevorrogers95 4 роки тому +3

      Shrek is love, Shrek is life.

    • @edhh-yq8ty
      @edhh-yq8ty 4 роки тому +7

      And they don’t stop comin And they don’t stop cominAnd they don’t stop And they don’t stop comin

    • @sociallyresponsiblexenomor7608
      @sociallyresponsiblexenomor7608 4 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/eT3BFzSD6YY/v-deo.html

    • @andy56duky
      @andy56duky 4 роки тому +1

      Hey now, you're a rockstar!

  • @x3mbr
    @x3mbr 4 роки тому +162

    4:25 - more like the L-ephant in the room

  • @Hansengineering
    @Hansengineering 4 роки тому +22

    "So I guess there's gonna be another MVG video tomorrow."

  • @SunSpirit
    @SunSpirit 4 роки тому +42

    The Ique ROMs have been loaded into mupen the same day it leaked. The ROM specifically for Mario 64 is an unreleased English version of the shindu version that is like a version 3.
    Luigi was made with the actual Rom with the decomp project not PC port.
    Luigi was planned for multiplayer that was scrapped

    • @AwesomeHairo
      @AwesomeHairo 4 роки тому +1

      SM64 with rumble in English!? I'm down

    • @coronelfalk
      @coronelfalk 4 роки тому +1

      is there any footage of that english version?

    • @SunSpirit
      @SunSpirit 4 роки тому +1

      @@coronelfalk not really. It would crash after leaving the pipe after the opening cutscene

    • @bangerbangerbro
      @bangerbangerbro 4 роки тому +1

      Why is the chinese market version in English? What is the shindu version again? Is that the one with a few bugfixes?

    • @SunSpirit
      @SunSpirit 4 роки тому

      @@bangerbangerbro yeah and idk tbh it would crash after the opening so that's fun

  • @pflynn12
    @pflynn12 4 роки тому +79

    Shigeru Miyamoto said himself that luigi was planned for the game but it never happened

    • @Music-tg5is
      @Music-tg5is 4 роки тому +6

      'Pics' or it never happened ... * L E A K S * .... Wait! ... what? ... Oh!

    • @pflynn12
      @pflynn12 4 роки тому +3

      @@Music-tg5is "L is real"

    • @pflynn12
      @pflynn12 4 роки тому

      @Win XP A 2P mode wasn't possible but I also heard that a lot N64 games only used half the cartridge memory

    • @SuperChunk84
      @SuperChunk84 4 роки тому +1

      Luigi was dropped sometime in February 1996 according to the TCRF.

  • @FilFee
    @FilFee 4 роки тому +30

    5:55 That's some high quality snow boarding

  • @MarcoGPUtuber
    @MarcoGPUtuber 4 роки тому +233

    The truth about the leak is that itll be good for game preservation. Long live Nintendo 64!

    • @unitedfools3493
      @unitedfools3493 4 роки тому +2

      No it won't. Did you even watch the video? You cannot compile anything.

    • @MarcoGPUtuber
      @MarcoGPUtuber 4 роки тому +40

      @@unitedfools3493 I did watch the video. MVG did say that it could be possible to reconstruct it. It wont compile as is but it adds another layer of preservation security.

    • @sarowie
      @sarowie 4 роки тому +47

      it depends on what you want to preserve. You want to preserve the games you played as a kid? Already done.
      You want to preserve historic artifacts used to create those games? This is a treasure box.
      Yeah, some of the shiny rocks are just shiny rocks, but uncompressed audio and early sprites are some gems if they are what you are looking for.

    • @MarcoGPUtuber
      @MarcoGPUtuber 4 роки тому +61

      @@sarowie The art, graphics and unfinished game assets are alone worth preserving.

    • @beardalaxy
      @beardalaxy 4 роки тому +21

      @@sarowie absolutely. There have been a lot of awesome discoveries made from these.

  • @Jeffcrocodile
    @Jeffcrocodile 4 роки тому +184

    hard to be on Nintendo side on this, with all the stuff these companies did so no game ever gets public domain, this will actually serve to preserve these games.

    • @NathanChisholm041
      @NathanChisholm041 4 роки тому +21

      Yeah but it's their property why should they give it away?

    • @SUNSHINE-t-m
      @SUNSHINE-t-m 4 роки тому +42

      @@NathanChisholm041 it's least about a should. But it's tremendously uncool to make this content remain unarchived afted multiple decades after their useful life, stripping credit, history and preservation

    • @sebastianfernandez6146
      @sebastianfernandez6146 4 роки тому +41

      They weren't gonna do anything with it anyway so I agree. Like they could've made "behind the scenes" videos/content for some of these games.

    • @ponocni1
      @ponocni1 4 роки тому +33

      When you consider how well preserved these files are, i would not shit that much on nintendo. They clearly have archiving covered even without others. Its sad, that they dont really do much with them, but at least they are not pieces of shit like square enix or blizzard, that lost their source codes for tons of games, that had to be then laboriously stitched together from compiled code and scraps of unremoved junk from retail copies.

    • @NathanChisholm041
      @NathanChisholm041 4 роки тому +4

      @@SUNSHINE-t-mI'm all for preservation I'm sure Nintendo have everything nice and secure somewhere for future generations! Lol

  • @stardustman420
    @stardustman420 4 роки тому +84

    Let us find Earthbound 64 before stopping all the leaks.

    • @TeruteruBozusama
      @TeruteruBozusama 4 роки тому +6

      I hope Nintendo will release cancelled games on the switch to keep people entertained during the virus..!
      Maybe even make some fan translations official..! That can't be too hard to do..!

    • @TimurSokol
      @TimurSokol 4 роки тому +31

      @@TeruteruBozusama This will never happen, sorry

    • @TeruteruBozusama
      @TeruteruBozusama 4 роки тому +10

      @@TimurSokol but one can dream..!

    • @pourgoi_6100
      @pourgoi_6100 4 роки тому +9

      someone found a very primative untextured model of lucas last night, so im kinda hopeful

    • @samexists5776
      @samexists5776 4 роки тому +7

      @@pourgoi_6100 where did you find this info at?

  • @Vanessaira-Retro
    @Vanessaira-Retro 4 роки тому +108

    Thank you MVG for explaining the in's and out's of all of this.

  • @DreamcastGuy
    @DreamcastGuy 4 роки тому +117

    Thanks for explaining this all MVG. The leaks are really interesting to see but make no sense to a random gamer like me. Great breakdown as always!

  • @aquamidideluxe5079
    @aquamidideluxe5079 4 роки тому +2

    A couple things.
    -Luigi WAS in fact confirmed by Shigeru Miyamoto to have been in Super Mario 64, but was removed from the game in February 1996 due to memory issues. They tried to re-implement him in a Mario Bros style mingame à la SMB3's versus multiplayer, but even this couldn't come to pass.
    -The source of these leaks is already known. The big digital heist was done in 2018 by a guy called wack0, who at the time was in trouble for hacking Microsoft's servers. He got off on house arrest and a computer ban because he's autistic, but he actually spread the leaked contents to multiple people to assure that even if he was caught, this stuff would still get out there. It's still being released in batches by those people to this day. This same guy also leaked a shitload of Pokémon stuff before he was caught.
    -The Ocarina of Time maps that leaked appear to include previous versions of maps that made it in the final game, including a working early Kokiri Forest. The screenshots in this video are in early versions of Ganon's Castle. Beta enemies have also leaked, such as early versions of the Wallmaster and Octorok, and an unused golden knight enemy, probably a Darknut. All of these enemies, and the older Ganon's Castle rooms, have been seen in old Ocarina of Time screenshots from beta builds. I've seen screenshots of test maps on 4chan too but those were already available in complete form in the Ocarina of Time Master Quest debug rom, which leaked online in 2005.
    -The coolest thing not mentioned here is that EVERY voice clip from Star Fox 64 was leaked in fully uncompressed form. Theoretically this can be hacked into the 3DS remake of Star Fox 64 to replace the awkwardly re-recorded voice lines in that version.

  • @mossbag69
    @mossbag69 4 роки тому +16

    Thanks for the insightful explanation of these leaks!

  • @DevilDogMuNky
    @DevilDogMuNky 4 роки тому +40

    What if years from now we find out that one of the old dogs from Nintendo had been leaking all this content?

    • @RikkiSan1
      @RikkiSan1 4 роки тому +20

      You never know...

    • @Cardinalbins
      @Cardinalbins 4 роки тому +7

      That would be pretty cool and btw not that unlikely

    • @dejiko
      @dejiko 4 роки тому +9

      Nintendogs?

    • @stgigamovement
      @stgigamovement 4 роки тому

      It's not like that

    • @SonicPman
      @SonicPman 4 роки тому +3

      *what if it was Shiggy the whole time*

  • @kruemmelbande5078
    @kruemmelbande5078 4 роки тому +75

    Wait a week, and every Nintendo game is open source

    • @DarkSoul-ds2
      @DarkSoul-ds2 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. This leak barely came out and the people who know what this can be used for aren't even completely sure all the benifits.

    • @lescitrons
      @lescitrons 4 роки тому +5

      no nintendo game is open source. open source is a specific term that refers to programs that have licenses that allow you to freely distribute source with or without modifications for any purposes.
      all of these source code leaks are illegal.

    • @coronelfalk
      @coronelfalk 4 роки тому

      it's old. they don't sell n64s anymore. get it over with.

    • @kruemmelbande5078
      @kruemmelbande5078 4 роки тому

      @@coronelfalk what do you mean?

    • @coronelfalk
      @coronelfalk 4 роки тому

      @@kruemmelbande5078 even if it's illegal to leak source code, the files are from games released 20 years ago like would it even affect nintendo in any way?

  • @alinayossimouse
    @alinayossimouse 4 роки тому +8

    the pressing question: does the leak contain a higher res texture of the plaque in the mario 64 courtyard

  • @EpicTyphlosionTV
    @EpicTyphlosionTV 4 роки тому +218

    Nintendo: **DMCA's ROM hackers and fan game creators**
    ROM hackers and fan game creators: **Leak loads of shit from Nintendo's archives**
    Nintendo: "Such a lust for revenge... WHOOOOOOOOOOO?!"

    • @Professor_Utonium_
      @Professor_Utonium_ 4 роки тому +30

      THEY PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE

    • @MarcoFD
      @MarcoFD 4 роки тому +7

      thats a great mgs V reference

    • @gluttonousmaximus9048
      @gluttonousmaximus9048 4 роки тому +5

      r/UnexpectedMetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain

    • @amyrosechaqueta
      @amyrosechaqueta 4 роки тому +4

      Leakers: Im gonna use something called a pro gaming move

    • @Ildskalli
      @Ildskalli 4 роки тому +2

      Beyond the lulz, though, Nintendo had this one coming. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

  • @Niosai
    @Niosai 4 роки тому +2

    Correction: Almost all of the ROM dumps are playable. I was able to get them running myself. The "checked out" versions were somehow corrupted, so you have to use the versions with the ,v extension. Plus, you actually have to edit the files to remove metadata headers and footers. Interestingly, the dumps are nearly identical to retail, but the Ocarina of Time dump contains some interesting differences. For example: It has the changed Gerudo symbols for some items that was seen in the Gamecube release, but not in the N64 retail versions. Almost like an in-between version.
    Edit: Just as a note, the ROMs are clearly just retail ROMs used for iQue localisation/conversion. They don't contain beta assets or anything that aren't already well-documented.

  • @Xoferif
    @Xoferif 4 роки тому +54

    3:40 Never mind Luigi, what's that LINUX_PORT folder?!? :-o

    • @dwdadevil
      @dwdadevil 4 роки тому +11

      They did the code on linux and compiled (ported) to the N64 hardware

    • @MegaManNeo
      @MegaManNeo 4 роки тому +5

      @@dwdadevil Weren't Sun workstations running on SunOS which is a UNIX variant rather than Linux?

    • @dwdadevil
      @dwdadevil 4 роки тому +4

      @@MegaManNeoThey were, but code compilation is written in Linux, Makefile is a linux compiler file, i found it in almost all proyects

    • @paulgraves1392
      @paulgraves1392 4 роки тому +5

      @@dwdadevil
      Actually if I recall correctly, didn't the N64 SDK involve SGI computers running IRIX?

    • @TroutButter
      @TroutButter 4 роки тому

      @@paulgraves1392 Yep. www.retroreversing.com/official-n64-devkit/

  • @pocketstationman6364
    @pocketstationman6364 4 роки тому +7

    Thank you for covering this. This really cleared things up for me. Also the beta SM64 stuff is really neat.

  • @xeddiustripp6398
    @xeddiustripp6398 4 роки тому +13

    You can convert all of the ,v files into the regular versions by installing rcs on linux and using the command: co whateverthefileiscalled,v
    It's literally that easy.

    • @gayusschwulius8490
      @gayusschwulius8490 4 роки тому

      @@nneeerrrd imagine running anything but Linux as your daily driver

  • @slimcognitoentertainment5170
    @slimcognitoentertainment5170 4 роки тому +2

    Informative as always. Thank so much I needed this extra information for my podcast. Also loving the facial hair Mr. GQsmooth.

  • @bigforestband
    @bigforestband 4 роки тому +9

    For gaming historians and those interested in hidden, deleted, and old version data will find these dumps valuable.

  • @cactoidpinata
    @cactoidpinata 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks the great video!
    Luigi was in the Super Mario 64 DS port. So, he eventually made it into the game anyway.

  • @livinlicious
    @livinlicious 4 роки тому +70

    this is actually amazing for preservation and history.
    THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUBLIC DOMAIN BY LAW IMHO. Software companies dont give a shit and literally delete their files (FF8).

    • @geraq0
      @geraq0 4 роки тому +16

      Konami too, they lost the source code from silent hill 2 and 3.

    • @GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli
      @GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli 4 роки тому +15

      @@geraq0 they have a mostly complete version of Silent Hills somewhere on their servers as well.

    • @geraq0
      @geraq0 4 роки тому +8

      @@GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli seriously? God they suck, they should get a leak too.

    • @gyroninjamodder
      @gyroninjamodder 4 роки тому +9

      It's Nintendo's IP. If they don't to want to give it out, then you shouldn't force them.

    • @inendlesspain4724
      @inendlesspain4724 4 роки тому +9

      "THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUBLIC DOMAIN BY LAW"
      Blame the mouse for that.

  • @MarcoFD
    @MarcoFD 4 роки тому +28

    idd love to see a version of sm64 thats able to run on original hardware now where all the "luigi" content originally scrapped is added, and luigis playable after completing the 120 stars in the same scheme as galaxy did it

    • @sarowie
      @sarowie 4 роки тому +7

      I can imagine that some people are working on a hacked ROM that runs on a flash cart.
      But honestly: What is the point? Yes it is a "childhood dream come true", but that is at best a recreation, but more likely it is a re-imagination.

    • @beardalaxy
      @beardalaxy 4 роки тому +14

      Kaze Emanuar made a split screen hack that can run on real hardware, however things like frame skip had to be implemented. He did it to prove Nintendo wrong.

    • @MarcoFD
      @MarcoFD 4 роки тому +2

      @@sarowie its like a part of your childhood you knew was there through logic of mostly imagination coming true, its great to see it come to reality 25 years and 1 month (L is real 2501)

    • @rayminishi689
      @rayminishi689 4 роки тому +5

      @@beardalaxy Prove Nintendo wrong? You mean a modern day programmer using modern day tech that made it possible and was impossible in the 90s where tech was so infantile?

  • @nathanddrews
    @nathanddrews 4 роки тому +16

    MVG: There is no file that links Luigi to the game files for Mario 64
    Internet: OMG! Link is in Mario 64!

  • @meh6722
    @meh6722 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the updated video, bud. Keep up all the good work!

  • @jessicacarter8264
    @jessicacarter8264 4 роки тому +30

    I get what you mean about it being "copyrighted data" that belongs to Nintendo. Although I kinda don't feel sorry for them because they are so against fan creations or adaptations of their games. There's nothing wrong with a scholarly view of this though and you're certainly a person people look to for information about this stuff. I've bought quite a lot of Nintendo's games in the past sometimes having to buy them more than once, (like having to buy it again on the Wii, when you already have it on the SNES).
    This Luigi source reference, could it have been used in the Nintendo Super Mario 64DS game? I know Luigi (also Yoshi, and Wario in addition to Mario) were in that version of the game. Anyways, keep up making the videos! They're awesome!
    Edited: Accidentally missed a couple of words :)

    • @Srcsqwrn
      @Srcsqwrn 4 роки тому

      I agree.
      As for the last bit; I wonder if anyone could compare the source code to find out

    • @gyroninjamodder
      @gyroninjamodder 4 роки тому +3

      If people infringe Nintendo's IP it's not Nintendo's fault that they broke the law.

    • @gyroninjamodder
      @gyroninjamodder 4 роки тому +1

      @J K Just because you think you can do a better job, that doesn't mean you are allowed to steal their IP and give it a shot yourself.

    • @natirasohumana
      @natirasohumana 4 роки тому

      @@gyroninjamodder yeah, like, he's saying it so high and mighty lmao. Create your own IP if you're so much better than them. Really.

  • @casedistorted
    @casedistorted 4 роки тому +10

    MVG my fav when it comes to source code stuff.
    Also so happy that Nintendo saved all of their past work unlike many other game studios.

  • @tonystair6818
    @tonystair6818 4 роки тому +6

    Was hoping you'd do another update. Thanks for the videos.

  • @MrEddiedk
    @MrEddiedk 4 роки тому +1

    If Nintendo can't stop the leaks, then why not ride the wave, and support it. I have a feeling, that if they wrote a downloadable book about the development of these systems and games and what happened behind the scenes, and somewhat used some of the leaked source code as a reference, a LOT of people would be interested in paying a fee to read that documentary. "If you can't beat them, join them" - that would also be a good strategy here, and Nintendo could profit of it also.
    Unfortunatly Nintendo always goes in a different direction about these things - somewhat in the opposite direction of Sony, that is kind of happy to embrace the emulator-community.

  • @nexus6100
    @nexus6100 4 роки тому +18

    These leaks combined with the shirt you're wearing is making me hope we can finally get a satisfying conclusion to Breakdown in Doom 64.

    • @LonelySpaceDetective
      @LonelySpaceDetective 4 роки тому +1

      IIRC the level designer got asked about that in a Doomworld thread. He said the easter egg was a love message (think like "Bob

  • @oB3ATS
    @oB3ATS 4 роки тому +1

    Wow, 1080 snowboarding can be interesting if improved and modified. One can only imagine.

  • @AROAH
    @AROAH 4 роки тому +25

    I condone this illegal activity, just wanted to make that clear.

  • @guttsu
    @guttsu 4 роки тому +1

    Absolutely love what you're doing with this stuff, because the hype and pie-in-the-sky speculation I see on forums/reddit/etc makes it hard to get REAL information.

  • @elhugo13
    @elhugo13 4 роки тому +71

    Nintendo leaks
    Smash mouth: and they don't stop coming loop

  • @JessieEchidna
    @JessieEchidna 4 роки тому +2

    The UNUSED DATA for the games such as Luigi's model and textures and Zelda's unused dungeon rooms, ARE leftovers from earlier prototypes of their respective games.
    The fact that they don't get compiled into the ROM with the makefile ONLY indicates that they aren't present in the FINAL RELEASE build of the ROM, not that they were NEVER used in any previous builds.
    You may consider it misleading that they have to be partially reconstructed and re-injected into the final ROM to be seen in a usable form, but that's necessary because the game (and the rendering engine) moved on without those assets.

  • @DJ_CARCINOGEN
    @DJ_CARCINOGEN 4 роки тому +4

    The best thing to come from this is finding the unused enemy, Moto in the code of Mario 64
    He was an earlier version of the bully, There were gonna be a boss version on LLL.
    He's really the greatest.

    • @bangerbangerbro
      @bangerbangerbro 4 роки тому

      Is that what your profile pic is?

    • @DJ_CARCINOGEN
      @DJ_CARCINOGEN 4 роки тому

      @@bangerbangerbro yea hes beautiful isn't he?

  • @Saph1r0
    @Saph1r0 4 роки тому +39

    As a programmer myself, I don't think any programmers or graphic designers would have created any Luigi files without having the directive/task to make them.. He was probably considered for playing and may have been cut due to time constraints, as Nintendo tried pushing the game out in time for its release.

    • @beardalaxy
      @beardalaxy 4 роки тому +8

      He was cut because the hardware couldn't handle split screen multiplayer.

    • @sarowie
      @sarowie 4 роки тому +6

      Maybe it was not time constrains perse, but technical constrains. Okay: Later games proved that the N64 can handle 4 player split screen and the recompilation project proves that the game was not compiled with the highest newest compiler optimization options... but to some extend: It is a launch title. It is primly a single player game. Instead of tacking on a two player mode (or an alternate character with different jump physic for single player), focusing on the core game was absolutely the right decission.

    • @GreenSwede
      @GreenSwede 4 роки тому +2

      I am pretty certain that Nintendo have talked about Luigi in SM64 in the past, especially for the cancelled sequel to the game that was planned for the N64DD

    • @MLennholm
      @MLennholm 4 роки тому +7

      Miyamoto already confirmed ages ago that they planned to have a split-screen multiplayer mode where one player would control Luigi but scrapped it due to time, so this isn't even that big of news.

    • @rebelo2025
      @rebelo2025 4 роки тому +1

      If the 64dd was successful in japan we would all have our beloved Luigi and Ura Zelda which just became majoras mask and master quest. Blame the Japanese

  • @Rednax35
    @Rednax35 4 роки тому +8

    Ngl I was expecting a GameCube source code leak yesterday

    • @redwidow1358
      @redwidow1358 4 роки тому +2

      It will come in due time

    • @CaptainCoolzCT-
      @CaptainCoolzCT- 4 роки тому

      And after GameCube, with the model for Donkey Kong Jr. in an early version of Double Dash, we'll get the Wii with a complete Hammer Bro model and animations for Mario Kart Wii.

  • @FoxInferno13
    @FoxInferno13 4 роки тому +103

    I can't believe L was real this whole time y'all

    • @chrismichaelgardner
      @chrismichaelgardner 4 роки тому +7

      I mean we knew it was back when Miyamoto said he was in the game...

    • @FoxInferno13
      @FoxInferno13 4 роки тому

      @i drink cyanide And now I look like a FOOL

    • @thetimebinder
      @thetimebinder 4 роки тому +1

      Always was

    • @FoxInferno13
      @FoxInferno13 4 роки тому

      @@thetimebinder WAIT DOES THIS MEAN I GET SHOT NOW

    • @discotrain173
      @discotrain173 4 роки тому +4

      Yeah but the fact that L is real 2401 is real is even more incredible (Luigi was found 24 years and 1 month after the game got released)

  • @Eric-yt7fp
    @Eric-yt7fp 4 роки тому +6

    This may just be the first non-clickbait story about the leaks. Thank you for that. I'm so so so sick of my sub list filled with "L IS REAL AFTER ALL" bullshit.

    • @CaptainCoolzCT-
      @CaptainCoolzCT- 4 роки тому

      But it’s an official Nintendo-made model of Luigi created for Super Mario 64 back before the game released. Idk why you think it isn’t real, the model was released nearly 24 years and 1 month after the game was originally released. 2401. It isn’t hard to understand, but don’t accept reality.

  • @Djungelurban
    @Djungelurban 4 роки тому +19

    I, on the other hand, super-condone it!

  • @garethevans9789
    @garethevans9789 4 роки тому +39

    It feels like Nintendo is being black mailed, with more leaks when someone doesn't get their own way...
    SNES and NES are pretty harmless with the source code being of fascination to many. N64 does feel like they're turning the thumb screws.

    • @daedremes
      @daedremes 4 роки тому +2

      The leaker must have been disappointed with the new Paper Mario.

    • @Jjjbbb5678
      @Jjjbbb5678 4 роки тому +3

      Absolutely they’re being extorted. Its possible that its just a random hacker who realized what they stumbled upon

    • @ivan4087
      @ivan4087 4 роки тому +4

      @@daedremes its retaliation for puttin people in jail by Nintendo , i guess

    • @23Scadu
      @23Scadu 4 роки тому +2

      Well let's hope they refuse to negotiate then.

    • @zakazany1945
      @zakazany1945 4 роки тому

      Didn't Japan passed a new law that even if you were blackmailed by the yakuza, if you cooperate with them you are considered an associate and would face legal problems?

  • @JimmyGFromDayton
    @JimmyGFromDayton 4 роки тому +1

    I completely understand your conflict on reporting on this type of information and these ongoing leaks.
    That being said I truly appreciate your insight and understanding of these things from a developer perspective. You know more about this than I could ever hope to and are able to break it down in ways that I find easy to digest. Thank you for this valuable work for the community at large.

  • @Delta225
    @Delta225 4 роки тому +35

    When you're so early you're on the verge of sleep.

  • @Matt.m6
    @Matt.m6 4 роки тому +1

    Ayyy i was just binging your videos. I am truly blessed.

  • @nowayjosetm29
    @nowayjosetm29 4 роки тому +12

    Actually,Luigi was supposed to be the second player on a scrapped multiplayer mode,this was confirmed by mijamoto on an interview,and there is an unused set of files in the leak saying '1p and '2p' in an early font,he's not in the final game tho,he is only a leftover inside the leak,and the voice lines are fake to my knowledge,they are from mario advance.

    • @sonicgamer178
      @sonicgamer178 4 роки тому

      Nintendo usually uses voice lines from older games as placeholders like in the E3 mario galaxy build, they used sunshine and 64 voice lines

    • @nowayjosetm29
      @nowayjosetm29 4 роки тому

      @@sonicgamer178 yeah,but the supossed leaked voice lines are i gba quality not n64 quality,wich means they must be fake.also nice name and pfp

    • @redwidow1358
      @redwidow1358 4 роки тому

      @@nowayjosetm29 the voice clips are Warner Brothers stock samples

    • @nowayjosetm29
      @nowayjosetm29 4 роки тому

      @@redwidow1358 mario's were,luigi probably didnt have a voice,or he reused mario's

    • @redwidow1358
      @redwidow1358 4 роки тому

      @@nowayjosetm29 Luigi uses some different samples from the same sample CD where Mario's were taken

  • @everyhandletaken
    @everyhandletaken 4 роки тому +2

    I find all the videos on this channel super interesting and the narration is so easy to listen to, even if (as a developer) I only understand a small % of the technical aspects of game dev.
    I’m not even into gaming (for many years now), so that’s how good the content is.. I literally have no place being here lol

  • @StinkTerios
    @StinkTerios 4 роки тому +21

    Can't wait for a big illegal OoT PC version to hit the internet and stay there forever. Can you imagine, 60 FPS Oot? Wild.

    • @redwidow1358
      @redwidow1358 4 роки тому +1

      Never gonna happen, not with this dump

    • @redwidow1358
      @redwidow1358 4 роки тому +3

      Also you can just emulate it lol

    • @Phantom1op
      @Phantom1op 4 роки тому

      yeaa....whoever makes hat better fly to Syria or something because I am sure Nintendo would drop a hammer the likes of which only Disney or TimeWarner has used before.

  • @hrududery
    @hrududery 4 роки тому

    Loving your coverage on all these leaks - specifically the tech/dev perspective on what’s going on. Nice shirt too!

  • @hegyak
    @hegyak 4 роки тому +45

    Legally Speaking, you have a Fair Use right to report on this, because it is news worthy. Not that Nintendo gives a Care about Fair Use.

    • @BrunodeSouzaLino
      @BrunodeSouzaLino 4 роки тому +8

      It's not that Nintendo doesn't care about fair use. Fair use doesn't exist in Japan. Nintendo is a Japanese company.

    • @n2n8sda
      @n2n8sda 4 роки тому +4

      This is stolen property, I don't think fair use applies...

    • @BrunodeSouzaLino
      @BrunodeSouzaLino 4 роки тому +5

      @@n2n8sda It does. MVG is not making use of any of the assets, but only showing them for educational purposes, even if they are illegal copies (not stolen, as that would imply Nintendo no longer has ownership of them).

    • @gyroninjamodder
      @gyroninjamodder 4 роки тому

      @@BrunodeSouzaLino This is a commercial purpose, not an educational one. It order to download these leaks he had to pirate them. The word stolen is the correct word. Intellectual property can be stolen from someone without having to remove all other memories of it.

    • @Wyatt_James
      @Wyatt_James 4 роки тому

      MVG didn't obtain the leak. He's just reporting on what other people have shown. Notice how he cites every source for everything he shows. It's completely legal, not different to a standard news broadcast.

  • @SolidIncMedia
    @SolidIncMedia 4 роки тому

    I appreciate the leak videos, mostly because you pull in information from different sources and present it in a straightforward manner. Plus your videos were how I first found out about these leaks.

  • @sr212787
    @sr212787 4 роки тому +6

    It's already been proven that there was going to be a split screen, two player mode with Mario and Luigi and I'm pretty sure the model has been found.

    • @coronelfalk
      @coronelfalk 4 роки тому +1

      yeah but what about the textures

    • @sr212787
      @sr212787 4 роки тому

      @@coronelfalk you right

  • @TheRedRaven_
    @TheRedRaven_ 4 роки тому +1

    There is like hundreds of Mario 64 home brews with Luigi in it, these images prove nothing at all.

  • @cosmicjenny4508
    @cosmicjenny4508 4 роки тому +29

    Honestly, I don’t care about the legal aspect of this when it comes to how I feel about this.
    All the best to the leaker(s), and I hope we find some more amazing stuff, soon!

    • @ivan4087
      @ivan4087 4 роки тому +7

      hell , pirates help me to save 30 000 dollars for not buying games and consoles and playing all games on emulators, so i support them too

    • @jwr2904
      @jwr2904 4 роки тому +6

      @@ivan4087 and thank the people who actually buy the systems and games so the company can keep being successful and making more games...

    • @rayminishi689
      @rayminishi689 4 роки тому +1

      Well, of course you don't care. You have nothing to your name, worth to datamine nor protect via copyright.

  • @AndrevusWhitetail
    @AndrevusWhitetail 4 роки тому +1

    Something important to mention about this leak : People have found the full, uncompressed, studio quality voiceover lines of StarFox 64, ALL OF THEM.

  • @jmalmsten
    @jmalmsten 4 роки тому +29

    Nintendo Engineer 1: "You know... This N64 Classic is proving really hard to build and run well."
    Nintendo Engineer 2: "Yeah. We need way more people working on it"
    NE1: "hmm"
    NE2: "uhm.. I have an idea. It will totally not fly with our legal team... But..."
    NE1: "But what?"
    NE2: "I mean, there are a lot of people who wants to work on these for free... "
    NE1: "None that are cleared..."
    NE2: "Yes yes... But..."
    NE1: "What are you suggesting?... Wait. No. NO! I want no part of this!"

    • @sarowie
      @sarowie 4 роки тому +9

      We are talking about nintendo that used ripped ROMs with typical "community" ROM dumper headers in their virtual console releases?

    • @KaitouKaiju
      @KaitouKaiju 4 роки тому +4

      Plausible deniability

  • @sociallyresponsiblexenomor7608
    @sociallyresponsiblexenomor7608 4 роки тому +3

    Wish they could get that Wii U source code or something we could use to speed up that emulation progress.

    • @jwr2904
      @jwr2904 4 роки тому

      Wii U is too recent, Nintendo will definitely do something about that. So far what's been leaked is 20+ years old.

    • @sociallyresponsiblexenomor7608
      @sociallyresponsiblexenomor7608 4 роки тому +1

      @@jwr2904 I mean, do what? If they could do something about this you think they wouldn't? They absolutely would.
      The security around it preventative wise might be better which is why it likely won't happen- but if it did happen then that would be it, Nintendo can't do squat about it once it's been dumped online.
      They can target share sites, which they already do with everything, but they can't stop it at that point. No matter how recent it is.

  • @xflarearcadia1766
    @xflarearcadia1766 4 роки тому +6

    Coming soon Mega Giga leak!

  • @stefanweilhartner4415
    @stefanweilhartner4415 4 роки тому +1

    a version control system allows you to branch into different development trees. sometimes these trees are for prototype testing only and can be used as a test bed for completely different projects.
    because people do not understand how real world software development works, they assume that something was or is part of the released project if it has been found in the repository. i do this all the time to use an existing project and use it as a test environment for developing something new. it will be checked-in into a private development branch.
    same thing might apply to the luigi thing here

  • @Pilotgeek
    @Pilotgeek 4 роки тому +7

    Nintendo's mascot is a plumber, and yet they got all these leaks.

    • @ItsYee64
      @ItsYee64 4 роки тому

      Mario needed some help, and yet Nintendo didn't give.

  • @zipzeolocke2
    @zipzeolocke2 4 роки тому +2

    it's not my place to say but I can't imagine Nintendo really being bothered by information on hardware that's more than 20 years old. It can't possibly hurt their modern sales. It's hard to believe they worry about hardware that's roughly 10 years old currently. I just don't know if it should matter. If I was them I would only care and worry about Nintendo Switch security and even the 3DS because I'm sure those are still in heavy use

  • @uraldamasis6887
    @uraldamasis6887 4 роки тому +12

    8:52 "Nintendo has a massive problem on their hands"
    Sorry but I disagree. These properties have long since stopped generating revenue for Nintendo. Yes, they release remakes and ports from time to time but they can still do that anyway. Yes, the possibility of a ongoing leak can be a massive problem but so far there is no evidence that this is the case. The leak itself could be 20 to 25 years in the past.

  • @retrogameroom9019
    @retrogameroom9019 4 роки тому +1

    Holy didnt shave.....hell of a way to get the dollar shave club sponsor lol

  • @shellsterdude
    @shellsterdude 4 роки тому +12

    This could be a major boon for the speed running communities around these leaked games. It could make a lot of bug/glitch hunting easier.

    • @qneironaut
      @qneironaut 4 роки тому

      eh not really, youd need an understanding of the games source code and its not complete, so its not super useful

  • @Bobbias
    @Bobbias 4 роки тому +1

    You are the only place I go when I want to know the details of what just leaked. As much as I feel for Nintendo here, I am not super happy with how aggressive they are about forcing people to experience their games in Nintendo Approved ways, so I almost feel like they've brought this on themselves in a sense.

  • @mightylink65
    @mightylink65 4 роки тому +14

    Source Code I understand, but haven't people already been ripping the sprites and models for years? I've found those assets on various websites since the early 2000's.

    • @TruExtentChannel
      @TruExtentChannel 4 роки тому +25

      Yes but those were assets already on the cartridge. The idea here is finding stuff that was cut and scrapped during development that never made it onto the final cartridge; the never before seen like Luigi in Mario 64, the beta Yoshi sprites, the beta Pokémon designs, the uncompressed Star Fox 64 dialogue, etc.

    • @clientliaisonmusic
      @clientliaisonmusic 4 роки тому

      Where do you think I could find some of these sprites? Keen to have a play with them

  • @blitzy3d
    @blitzy3d 4 роки тому

    Thanks for keeping these updates coming MVG! I love knowing what's going on in the communities that surround this stuff!

  • @Essjaythegreat
    @Essjaythegreat 4 роки тому +13

    Does this mean we’ll get more ports of older Nintendo games for the switch? Loving Mario 64 on the switch :)

    • @TimurSokol
      @TimurSokol 4 роки тому +1

      Why?

    • @e24gamingchannel
      @e24gamingchannel 4 роки тому +1

      timur sokol watch the video lol

    • @pompshuffle562
      @pompshuffle562 4 роки тому

      No it still copywritten code and if it is used Nintendo has the right to sue

    • @redwidow1358
      @redwidow1358 4 роки тому

      Not OoT, that source is corrupted

    • @ElectroBlastLuigi
      @ElectroBlastLuigi 4 роки тому +1

      @@pompshuffle562 You misunderstood his comment. He's talking about Nintendo porting their old games to the Switch.

  • @jasonxhx7854
    @jasonxhx7854 4 роки тому +4

    What's the potential impact on speedrunning games like Mario 64 or OoT? Will having more concrete information help with things like finding wrong warps or maybe rooms/items hidden out of bounds we never knew about?

  • @ViewpointProd
    @ViewpointProd 4 роки тому +19

    Thoe voice files are not from luigi, they are from mario advanced, someone looked up luigi and took the files without checking where they where from.
    Luigi was added, and we have a specific date when he was removed, 4 months prior to launch

    • @Deliveredmean42
      @Deliveredmean42 4 роки тому +5

      Are you sure isnt this the other way around, the sounds files from Mario Advance used assets from super mario 64? The gameboy advance wouldn't be here for another 5 years or so

    • @daedremes
      @daedremes 4 роки тому

      I thought I recognized the "that's delicious" voice line from somewhere.

    • @silveros
      @silveros 4 роки тому +8

      @@Deliveredmean42 Nintendo reuses voice clips from games all the time. A good way to show this, is the Yoshi sound effects, and Captain Falcon's voice clips. They wouldn't let good recording go to waste

    • @NatsumiTakanawa
      @NatsumiTakanawa 4 роки тому +3

      The voice clips were originally recorded for SM64. Nintendo just reused them for Mario Advanced.

    • @redwidow1358
      @redwidow1358 4 роки тому

      Luigi's voice clips are actually stock sounds from a Warner Brothers sample disc. So are Mario's early, sillier lines.

  • @cheaterman49
    @cheaterman49 4 роки тому +1

    Ooh, that's very interesting - the bit about missing C files and having precompiled object files in there. Reminds me of that "was Mario64 release accidentally compiled with debugging symbols" thing - you showed there how most objects were already compiled by independent Makefiles beforehand, and enabling debugging symbols on the main Makefile wouldn't do anything because it would mostly apply to the final linking phase (where it doesn't have any effect). I'd tend to agree about this being leak mitigation for precisely that kind of situation we're in right now - I mean, if I was Nintendo and I knew OEMs wouldn't need actual game code (basically only re-link the ROM and maybe rewrite a few headers for the platform), I wouldn't give it away either ; looks like Nintendo themselves have a better track record with leaks than third parties like BroadOn here (tighter NDAs or something?).
    That still doesn't explain how we have actual source code for other games, but I'm sure you'll have some insights on the subject in the next video. Thanks for your reporting - I feel equally conflicted about this, at some point I was even trying to convince myself Nintendo is doing it, perhaps to give away some knowledge while keeping the freedom to retract it all at some point if they don't like the outcome ; but obviously that's delusional, and I like Nintendo, I hope this doesn't change them in any bad way.

  • @forgettablePyromaniac
    @forgettablePyromaniac 4 роки тому +7

    "5 minutes ago"
    Dude I'm almost never on time.

    • @MarcoGPUtuber
      @MarcoGPUtuber 4 роки тому

      Hit the bell icon! It helps MVG and you get to be on time every time.

    • @forgettablePyromaniac
      @forgettablePyromaniac 4 роки тому

      @@MarcoGPUtuber I have notifications off for youtube because I dont like how it keeps giving me notifications every 30 minutes about a recomended video.

    • @forgettablePyromaniac
      @forgettablePyromaniac 4 роки тому

      @Mike UK and I am.

  • @H3liosphan
    @H3liosphan 4 роки тому +1

    Interesting. .O files are compiler output files, you use a linker to turn them into useable binaries / ROMs. It's also possible to reverse them back to rudimentary C or assembler, provided they haven't been obfuscated in some way. There's also quite a lot of assembler sources shown in the repository which could actually be a lot of the performance code. I'm not so sure these won't be of use to emulator developers because they could very well be original O files from the N64 - this weird console for the Chinese market may very well NOT be an emulated platform (eg. Like the PS1 classic) and actually runs the default binaries directly, so there may be use in them to come.

  • @BrianM180
    @BrianM180 4 роки тому +6

    Well the leaks start coming and they don't stop coming
    Fed to the rules and I hit the ground running

  • @UmVtCg
    @UmVtCg 4 роки тому +2

    8:54 Nintendo does not have a massive problem, it's N64 games, which are anchient. They could do nothing and it would have no effect whatsoever on Nintendo's value or profits.

    • @Phantom1op
      @Phantom1op 4 роки тому

      It might impact how they interact with bussiness and employees in the future, as surprisingly companies do not like it when their data is breached.

    • @UmVtCg
      @UmVtCg 4 роки тому

      @@Phantom1op Yeah, and how exactly might that impact them negatively? A buttelrfly flapping it's wings might cause a hurricane at the other side of the globe. Still not an argument, might, might, means nothing. And as I said It is N64, not Switch games.

    • @Phantom1op
      @Phantom1op 4 роки тому

      @@UmVtCg businesses deal in mights and possibilities all the time as the future is never certain. As for the initial question it would take up more time and money to patch up any potential holes to prevent such leaks, furthermore it will certainly result in companies being less trustworthy of Nintendo in the future out of fear that their own content could be leaked.

  • @EpicTyphlosionTV
    @EpicTyphlosionTV 4 роки тому +10

    So L really was real. We just weren't able to find him...

    • @betaplay2914
      @betaplay2914 4 роки тому +4

      Well there was only mesh of him and an l logo, and as it isn't used in the game build process just ignores it

    • @altimateguyz1016
      @altimateguyz1016 4 роки тому +2

      Only took us 24 years and 1 month.

    • @x3mbr
      @x3mbr 4 роки тому

      AltimateGuyz 101 still earlier than 2401 lol

    • @KaitouKaiju
      @KaitouKaiju 4 роки тому

      He was in Nintendo's dungeon

  • @awilliams1701
    @awilliams1701 4 роки тому +1

    Personally I think game companies should release their source after 10 years or less. Like Doom was open source almost in 1998 that's 6 years after it was released. The actual WAD files aren't open source but the engine is. I think that's awesome and that's how it should be. I know nintendo would never do that though.

    • @Phantom1op
      @Phantom1op 4 роки тому

      maybe something in between is what I am thinking, instead of releasing their games and/or assets as open source they could add their development assets to some kind of public digital library a decade or so after release, where the assets can't be utilized by people but can be looked at and read up on for preservation/knowledge reasons (possibly even interacted with in some form).

    • @anterax4097
      @anterax4097 4 роки тому

      Phantom1op If you can look at it you can take a picture of it

    • @Phantom1op
      @Phantom1op 4 роки тому

      @@anterax4097 I don't think most entities would be too worried about that, a picture of Luigi in Super Mario 64 is still just a picture of Luigi in Super Mario 64. That possibility doesn't run antithetical to my idea.

  • @polaris911
    @polaris911 4 роки тому +6

    instead of 1080° he said 1080p lol

  • @chrishansen7004
    @chrishansen7004 4 роки тому +1

    what was that one video or whatever explaining the one interview it said early on in super mario 64's development they had mario and luigi running on a flat field together and it worked fine but then when the levels got more complicated it didnt workout so they cut himm? so id very well say luigi was in it at one point

  • @supersquare
    @supersquare 4 роки тому +3

    He was cut because the hardware could fit them cheeks in those overalls.

  • @GregAtlas
    @GregAtlas 4 роки тому

    Please continue. This is interesting insight on gaming history that deserves its own little spotlight.