'90 Chevy 454 SS vs '94 Ford Lightning F150 MuscleTrux Wars Part 1 - Trucks! S10, E1

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  • It's the start of our MuscleTrux series and to kick it off, it's the oldest matchup in the book, Ford versus Chevy. Ryan's taking a 1990 454 SS Chevy while Kevin's picking a '94 Ford Lightning. Today, we're gonna find out just how much these two trucks will put out in their stock form so each guy can formulate a secret plan to push both of these trucks towards the 400 horsepower mark. Then later in the season, we'll pit them head to head to see which one comes out on top.
    Follow the match up in the MuscleTrux Wars playlist:
    • MuscleTrux Wars - '90 ...
    PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
    DynoSpeed Racing, Inc.: 32 point dyno check list.
    Flowmaster: Scavenger Y-pipe comes in various sizes.
    Matco Tools: HVLP and conventional spray guns.
    O'Reilly Auto Parts: Distributor cap, rotor, spark plug wires, spark plugs, oil, air, and fuel filters.
    O'Reilly Auto Parts: Spark plugs, air, fuel and oil filters.

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  • @PowerNationTV
    @PowerNationTV  5 років тому +59

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    • @minimanadam
      @minimanadam 5 років тому +14

      @Robert LaPointe lol.no..no it doesnt

    • @Camilo19832001
      @Camilo19832001 5 років тому +4

      Robert LaPointe itll beat them until the POS HEMI engine destroys itself

    • @6628guitarhero
      @6628guitarhero 5 років тому +8

      Poor Robert.... Grew up never knowing what's beyond a Dodge 😂 must have been a hand me down like sibling clothes 😂

    • @jeffscott3160
      @jeffscott3160 5 років тому +7

      @Robert LaPointe Why does Ford and GM have exponentially more wins in Nascar, Nastruck, NHRA, off road truck racing, ect? Is because Dodge feels SOOOOOO bad for Ford and GM that they let them win time and time again? Oh yeah, aren't they owned by Fiat now? One of the worst reliability ratings an auto manufacturer can get!

    • @MrStacy1974
      @MrStacy1974 5 років тому +4

      @Robert LaPointe good luck with that electical system and cheap plastic.

  • @HonJazzz
    @HonJazzz 4 роки тому +121

    My first car was a black 94 lightning. I absolutely loved that truck. One day while I was driving and minding my own business, I was hit by a driver who ran a red light. Totaled the truck, but I walked without a scratch. I parted the truck out and now the drivetrain is in a Country Squire Wagon somewhere in Michigan and the body panels that were still good went to fix another lightning. Hopefully one day I’ll drive one again.

    • @mattbourgoyne3613
      @mattbourgoyne3613 4 роки тому +8

      Dam! sucks about the truck but it possibly saved your life

    • @HonJazzz
      @HonJazzz 4 роки тому +5

      @@mattbourgoyne3613 Yeah probably! That’s what’s important at the end of the day.

    • @mattbourgoyne3613
      @mattbourgoyne3613 3 роки тому +1

      I guess that it didn't possibly save your life it did save your life because you are here today even though it may have not been really really bad but some people die in some accidents that leave you scratching your head wondering how in the hell did they die in such a minor fender bender but it happens but that's when Ford was still "tough" too , at least she still lives on some what anyway kind of like some poor soul that has gotten killed somehow early in their life and ended up helping some other poor soul that was in dire need of a heart and another one needing a kidney or whatever so its like they are still around kind of so lol if you catch my drift

    • @HonJazzz
      @HonJazzz 3 роки тому +1

      @@mattbourgoyne3613 This is very true Matt. Thanks for the perspective

    • @wadevallbona5314
      @wadevallbona5314 3 роки тому

      I hope to own one soon. I think my wife may be on board

  • @WillyG1994
    @WillyG1994 5 років тому +434

    Kevin and Ryan look like default Autozone and O Riley’s employees

  • @DUNEATV
    @DUNEATV 5 років тому +397

    This is my era...I was in high school when these came out!

    • @santiceja8758
      @santiceja8758 5 років тому +5

      And y’all never got one 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @DUNEATV
      @DUNEATV 5 років тому +2

      Josh C. Hahaa

    • @psygn0sis
      @psygn0sis 5 років тому +2

      1994... I was 13.

    • @smartyardhouston
      @smartyardhouston 5 років тому +2

      @@santiceja8758 ive got a 454ss. Still working on it. Its really hard to find things for it. Mainly time and money....😂😂😂

    • @Bigshiesty1
      @Bigshiesty1 5 років тому +2

      DUNE YXZ I’m in high school right now and I like 2nd gen gm trucks. I find them looking like behemoths!

  • @Guns_N_Gears
    @Guns_N_Gears 5 років тому +433

    OMG, that exhaust looks like Stevie Wonder was tryin out a new Harbor Freight welder!

    • @nathanhill2044
      @nathanhill2044 5 років тому +12

      rashim kallihar isn’t she lovely

    • @sunder5747
      @sunder5747 5 років тому +22

      It look like the exhaust came from Harbor Freight too not just the welder 😂

    • @Dr.Westside
      @Dr.Westside 5 років тому +9

      It's not the machine. It's the moron operating it.

    • @sinformant
      @sinformant 5 років тому

      @@nathanhill2044 😂😂😂

    • @sinformant
      @sinformant 5 років тому +1

      @@Dr.Westside agreed! I've made weld porn with a little crappy sears and roebuck stick welder back in the day.

  • @Kenzo-bp1zs
    @Kenzo-bp1zs 5 років тому +236

    These trucks look so much better than the new ones out now.

    • @bilbobaggins4710
      @bilbobaggins4710 5 років тому +19

      Hell yeah. I want a chevy of this vintage wirh a LS swap

    • @kidamere2408
      @kidamere2408 5 років тому +5

      No just no

    • @kidamere2408
      @kidamere2408 5 років тому +2

      @@msw7021 no negative

    • @InternetDude
      @InternetDude 5 років тому +15

      And they’re way more simple and reliable

    • @breimer87
      @breimer87 5 років тому +3

      @@bilbobaggins4710 🤮🤢

  • @Lexman00
    @Lexman00 5 років тому +12

    You guys are bringing back some nice memories. Got a tear in my eye, cause I had that Ford back in the late 90's. I loved her so much.

  • @electric8668
    @electric8668 5 років тому +311

    Neither truck stock is messing with a Syclone or Typhoon.

    • @RedfishCarolina
      @RedfishCarolina 5 років тому +50

      Yeah I heard what he said and immediately thought "now that's a bunch of horseshit"

    • @alonzokincaid1362
      @alonzokincaid1362 5 років тому +1

      RedfishCarolina yeah right bo

    • @tehgzizlauw1787
      @tehgzizlauw1787 5 років тому +5

      @leo c smoked*

    • @JoeIsCrazyWillman
      @JoeIsCrazyWillman 5 років тому +13

      No joke! Almost 300 horsepower in a turbo little V6 little truck... Power to weight, baby. Syclone was a little rocketship.

    • @electric8668
      @electric8668 5 років тому +11

      @@JoeIsCrazyWillman Don't forget it is AWD giving it instant traction to get up and go.

  • @michaelbloom5342
    @michaelbloom5342 5 років тому +165

    The transmission in the Ford is not an E40D (ee forty dee), it's an E4OD (ee four oh dee). As in, Electronic shift, 4 speed, OverDrive.
    Just a little FYI. :)

    • @kfstreich4787
      @kfstreich4787 5 років тому +13

      I mentioned the same thing, they just lost their hotroder card

    • @miken.4693
      @miken.4693 5 років тому +13

      I’m glad I’m not the only one who was bothered by that.

    • @alexpayne1523
      @alexpayne1523 5 років тому +2

      What does E40D stand for then?

    • @alexcorona
      @alexcorona 5 років тому +8

      Michael Bloom they're Chevy guys can't blame them

    • @jrod264winmag
      @jrod264winmag 5 років тому +12

      @@alexpayne1523 re-read original comment.

  • @olov244
    @olov244 5 років тому +259

    I am a chevy guy, but the lightning was a better truck stock.

    • @andrewfotopoulos7766
      @andrewfotopoulos7766 5 років тому +22

      Better potential with the 454...

    • @saltysteel3996
      @saltysteel3996 5 років тому +7

      There's no replacement for displacement!

    • @letsgotomarsman
      @letsgotomarsman 5 років тому +5

      Salty Steel turbo, supercharger?

    • @olov244
      @olov244 5 років тому

      @@andrewfotopoulos7766 I hope this series finds it

    • @alexcorona
      @alexcorona 5 років тому +34

      Andrew Fotopoulos lightings got a supercharger later on... Replacement for displacement.

  • @littlebucks912
    @littlebucks912 2 роки тому +2

    2:49 "Kick a few Syclones to the curb." Lmao. Anyone who calls themselves a car guy and doesn't know that the Syclone was the quickest vehicle in 1990 famously gapping a Ferrari in a drag race.

  • @columbiariverdetailing1943
    @columbiariverdetailing1943 5 років тому +19

    I've always been partial to the lightning I just love the way they look and sound

  • @Anuskasv0
    @Anuskasv0 5 років тому +224

    454 BB, 230 horses. Sad times in the 90's.

    • @jaystein1405
      @jaystein1405 5 років тому +46

      GM had a pickup with a turbo 4.3l and AWD that made 280hp and 350tq at the time. It'd beat the piss out of that Lightning

    • @jeffscott3160
      @jeffscott3160 5 років тому +25

      The poor horsepower/torque specs were not due to GM's design, but directly due to EPA regulators. The engineering knowledge base and technology simply was not up to the level of what the EPA was mandating at the time. Kinda like when they first started mandating EGR and DPF's on diesel trucks. They were horrible when first introduced. While they still aren't a perfect system, they have gotten better and will continue to do so as the technology advances. They should have compared a '93 SS with the '94 Lightning though. Much better comparison as most all trucks get better and better every few years. It doesn't make sense to compare a truck that is 4 years older than the one your comparing it too. Might as well compare a brand new Civic R to a 1978 Camaro. Complete waste of time by these two morons!

    • @randomprojectsusa5196
      @randomprojectsusa5196 5 років тому

      Jay Stein Not the supercharged Voodoo one

    • @jeffscott3160
      @jeffscott3160 5 років тому +9

      @@randomprojectsusa5196 The supercharged Lighting didn't show up until '99. That's an eternity when it comes to engine tech advances. Again, they were comparing early 90's naturally aspirated trucks.

    • @randomprojectsusa5196
      @randomprojectsusa5196 5 років тому

      Jeff Scott I know, just saying

  • @dheujsnrhfydhehehshshhdggsd
    @dheujsnrhfydhehehshshhdggsd 5 років тому +32

    This was best. Real project, real budget.

  • @Miguelspl150
    @Miguelspl150 5 років тому +67

    This aired back in early 2000 lol brings back memories

    • @DaBrute
      @DaBrute 5 років тому +6

      Watching this again seriously made me feel 16 again

    • @ironpanther2420
      @ironpanther2420 5 років тому +1

      I remember seeing it. I had a 1994 Chevy Cheyenne 1500 as my first vehicle. It only had the 4.3 and I wanted a 454SS in the worst way. Seeing this episode and how easily that truck in the show laid rubber didn't help that any lol

  • @sdlausen1
    @sdlausen1 5 років тому +36

    Man... that Lightning still looks amazing and fresh design wise in 2019. Love it!

    • @Dudafrego7717
      @Dudafrego7717 5 років тому

      Yea it’s not fat and bulky like the new one, its nice and simple

  • @milkman1026
    @milkman1026 5 років тому +2

    I miss waking up on Saturday mornings in high school and tuning in to these shows. The feels man, the feels.

  • @deansapp4635
    @deansapp4635 5 років тому +132

    Later 454SS trucks gained 20hp to 255, 4speed od trans and 4.10 limited slip gears. Vast improvement over this truck

    • @smokesgtp
      @smokesgtp 5 років тому +6

      Yep, much more expensive now though

    • @mattmc8391
      @mattmc8391 5 років тому

      Yes , Thank You

    • @lanemorrow5513
      @lanemorrow5513 5 років тому +17

      It might be able to keep up with the Ford then LOL

    • @swampfoxpicks6908
      @swampfoxpicks6908 5 років тому +8

      @@lanemorrow5513 the fORd obviously had been modified and had no cats.

    • @mungaloyd1
      @mungaloyd1 5 років тому +2

      That ford was slow for stock...ive had 2 lightnings

  • @mrdumbfellow927
    @mrdumbfellow927 5 років тому +96

    5:32 Love the piece of mig wire still stuck to that awful exhaust weld on the lightning. :)

    • @alexcorona
      @alexcorona 5 років тому

      Mrdumbfellow did they remove the 02 sensors as well???

    • @AtZero138
      @AtZero138 5 років тому +1

      All anyone can do is grind away the shame.. you know it's a crap weld when the evidence is just looking you back in the face.. metal holding hands Not a Weld..

    • @missingremote4388
      @missingremote4388 5 років тому

      Lol

    • @98erics
      @98erics 5 років тому

      @@AtZero138 haha, as they say "Grinders and paint make me the welder I aint"

    • @mrdumbfellow927
      @mrdumbfellow927 5 років тому

      @@AtZero138 heh I would say most of my work is just holding hands. Says a lot about the previous owner when they don't even bother clipping that wire though :)

  • @backroadracing5449
    @backroadracing5449 5 років тому +79

    A slight giggle came out when he said “Kick a few Syclones to the curb”. Hahaha

    • @johnkendall6962
      @johnkendall6962 5 років тому +31

      LOL yea that's not going to happen .

    • @theblackwellreport
      @theblackwellreport 5 років тому +8

      man. same. LOL

    • @jamarharrison7895
      @jamarharrison7895 5 років тому +4

      Lmao i was gonna say the same thing but you beat me to it

    • @tskraj3190
      @tskraj3190 5 років тому +8

      Except it didn't. The Cyclone's Typhoons and Cameos are still the fastest quarter mile pickups.

    • @backroadracing5449
      @backroadracing5449 5 років тому +2

      Timothy Isenhart oh I know.

  • @mariot3708
    @mariot3708 5 років тому

    That man that ran that show was a real man! Think about most of us man used to wake up early sunday morning as we are used to waking up M-F for work. And knows about our daily routine, work and work on cars... this man is a real business man. Great shows.

  • @mayssm
    @mayssm 4 роки тому +5

    My dad had a 454 SS. I'm not a truck guy, but I liked that truck. Lot of torque, decent handling for a truck of that time. I always imagined he'd give it to me one day, but someone stole it.

  • @adammccallum7493
    @adammccallum7493 5 років тому +182

    8 mpg and 195hp to the wheels😂

    • @jrod264winmag
      @jrod264winmag 5 років тому +5

      Adam, nawh 10 mpg's

    • @seantaylor2683
      @seantaylor2683 5 років тому +49

      Also 290-300 torque from a package that was all but choked to death by emissions regulations. Let that engine breath and you'd see all three numbers increase

    • @jasonvoorhees6657
      @jasonvoorhees6657 5 років тому +8

      Yea but gas was cheaper then

    • @jrod264winmag
      @jrod264winmag 5 років тому +8

      @@jasonvoorhees6657 yes, I lived in Wyoming during this time and gas was under a buck a gallon.

    • @teds4983
      @teds4983 5 років тому

      @Mallard work truck dont get a ton better. 18 wheelers get worse, totally useless. Your right

  • @alconk7129
    @alconk7129 5 років тому +4

    I bought a 454SS new in ‘90 and just by changing the factory air cleaner to a 5” open element along with the Edelbrock intake made a huge difference. Then I changed out the factory y-pipe to the ‘92 SS dual y-pipe with cats and true duals our back completely transformed that truck. Intake and exhaust is choking that big block and you’ll see when you get into it .

  • @southstreetbarbecue7875
    @southstreetbarbecue7875 5 років тому +10

    Always loved the squat aggressive stance of the Lightning.

  • @whiskers78753
    @whiskers78753 5 років тому +5

    I use to own one of those Chevy's 454SS; it's the reason I drive a Toyota Tacoma today.

    • @iDrive4fun93
      @iDrive4fun93 5 років тому

      Plus the 4.0 V6 would leave a 454SS in the dust, let alone the newer 3.5

    • @joeblow6127
      @joeblow6127 5 років тому

      That was dumb

  • @clayromero4733
    @clayromero4733 5 років тому +24

    I like how ford can make the same and even more power from smaller blocks

    • @kr4t0sg.28
      @kr4t0sg.28 4 роки тому +3

      Pretty much what they are known for.

    • @satown2150
      @satown2150 4 роки тому +7

      @Dave Micolichek yup yup. when you go to the track almost all those fox body mustangs running 8s and 7s have big block chevys under the hood.

    • @bradnimbus4836
      @bradnimbus4836 4 роки тому

      @@satown2150 Lies lies

    • @anthonyhuntley4498
      @anthonyhuntley4498 3 роки тому

      @@bradnimbus4836 he’s telling the truth.

    • @bradnimbus4836
      @bradnimbus4836 3 роки тому

      @@anthonyhuntley4498 Not around these parts, he isn't

  • @bkeith269
    @bkeith269 5 років тому +57

    Ford is down 100 cubes and still comes out on top. No surprise.

    • @kylepett1
      @kylepett1 5 років тому +4

      any motor chevy had in the 90s was a straight up dog then when the introduced the 4.8-6.1 they took the game over because everyone is ls swapping now

    • @BUILTFORDTOUGH79
      @BUILTFORDTOUGH79 5 років тому +8

      kylepett1 then ford took the cake with the gen 3 coyote

    • @ChrisPBacon-nf3op
      @ChrisPBacon-nf3op 5 років тому +7

      @@kylepett1 LT1's weren't dogs

    • @adambrooks2297
      @adambrooks2297 5 років тому +3

      Lmao these are both bone stock trucks with around 100,000 miles on them,at this point who cares,wait and see what happens when the 454 gets properly set up,and the Ford small block gets the same the 454 will destroy the sbf! I remember both trucks when they came out,Ford never could keep up back then!

    • @adambrooks2297
      @adambrooks2297 5 років тому +3

      @@BUILTFORDTOUGH79 Ford didn't take anything over, where do you fellas get this crap from? The 90s LT1s killed 302 Fords,then the LS1 came out and the rest is history, the only fast Fords back then needed help with nitrous or boost,they never could keep up NA!

  • @EDHBlvd
    @EDHBlvd 5 років тому +8

    Love this. That generation of Chevy is still one of my favorites. Loved the step side with a bell tech drop in black.

  • @thekingsservant1104
    @thekingsservant1104 5 років тому +52

    When these were new, the Ford walked the 454.....still take the SS. Now had Chevy grown a set of balls and did the 454 right it would have been king!

    • @bilbobaggins4710
      @bilbobaggins4710 5 років тому +7

      Same...Old chevy trucks are just more sexy

    • @theman68and1
      @theman68and1 5 років тому +4

      The King's Servant almost 30 years later and it still is

    • @bilbobaggins4710
      @bilbobaggins4710 5 років тому +5

      @@theman68and1 no...It's not

    • @N1RKW
      @N1RKW 5 років тому +17

      It wasn't about balls, they did the best they could given the limitations of the time. That was (sadly) as much power as they could coax out of the old big block and still meet 1990 emissions laws. ALL cars were dogs in the 80's and 90's, as manufacturers hadn't yet figured out how to meet emissions without de-tuning their engines beyond all reason.

    • @GUNSLINGEROUTDOORS
      @GUNSLINGEROUTDOORS 5 років тому +13

      Big blocks from both companies were pooches in that era.. emissions killed alot of power in the 90s.. as far as the chevy looks better, I suppose it's in the eye of the beholder.. but as I wrote in another post I've owned both trucks and both were black, the lightning got more looks than the Chevy.. so you can like which ever.. in my personal opinion the 78-79 fords and box Chevys of the same era kick both their assis

  • @Jonboy997
    @Jonboy997 10 місяців тому

    I remember watching this on Saturday mornings with my grandpa. I love those memories

  • @nikeboi56dollar
    @nikeboi56dollar 5 років тому +24

    I’m a Chevy guy but I still have respect for this Ford lighting

  • @LiquidSSSnake
    @LiquidSSSnake 5 років тому +41

    230 HP from a 454 is a feat of engineering in itself.

    • @garyhayes4756
      @garyhayes4756 5 років тому +1

      At the same time they had the syclones and typhoons.

    • @drewinhou
      @drewinhou 5 років тому +1

      @@lenagdyfigpkhhmossuto9623 And for EPA reasons, they still were limited on what they were allowed to put out hp wise. And car manufacturers just weren't there yet with having a high horsepower fuel injected engines priced for the masses, with low enough emissions to pass the federal regulations. All while getting decent fuel mileage. Fuel injection by the times these trucks were produced had only really been widespread available for 8-10 years. They had along ways to go to get them were they needed to be.

    • @michaelprovost5433
      @michaelprovost5433 5 років тому

      Obviously you've never heard of an LSX

    • @michaelprovost5433
      @michaelprovost5433 5 років тому

      @@lenagdyfigpkhhmossuto9623 Then why would they suggest that its hard to get 230 hp out of a 454?

    • @nogamez26
      @nogamez26 5 років тому +1

      @@drewinhou You have no idea what your talking about. Fuel injection had been around since the late 70's. The Eldorado was not only fuel injected but front wheel drive. Camaro's and Monte Carlo's in the 80's you could get with a fuel injected 305.

  • @drewolah1556
    @drewolah1556 5 років тому +5

    The Gen 1 Lighting is a beast even from factory!!! Love them!! Wish I still had mine!!

  • @dustinpowell5981
    @dustinpowell5981 2 роки тому

    This was the best weekend show in school. Then on Monday morning you get to go into auto class and pretend you knew this shit already 🤣

  • @vburke1
    @vburke1 5 років тому +16

    That exhaust on the Lightning is what is known as booger welding.

    • @scdevon
      @scdevon 5 років тому +4

      Two Hillbillies with a car battery and a coat hanger, LOL.

    • @NoViews1975
      @NoViews1975 5 років тому +2

      And probably done by a guy named Booger, too.

    • @172-e5s
      @172-e5s 5 років тому +1

      We call that look 'chicken shit'. Just plop some on, here and there....

  • @superslow7609
    @superslow7609 5 років тому +57

    The lightning takes the cake with looks that truck is beautifull!!!!

  • @mikeschmalz2031
    @mikeschmalz2031 5 років тому +4

    I used to have a 94 Lightning, slightly modded with intake, exhaust, and a shift kit. Best run was 14.89 at 94mph. I miss that beast.

  • @coty397
    @coty397 5 років тому +1

    My grandpa daily drove a lightning when I was a kid as a daily driver. I literally watched him use it to haul hay. I’m not a ford guy but there is a certain amount of nostalgia I get when I see a lightning.

  • @YouTubeDeletedYourComment
    @YouTubeDeletedYourComment 5 років тому +8

    If you ever owned a 94 95 lightning, then you know how important it is for the switch that flips the gas tanks to work.

    • @jamesprice2163
      @jamesprice2163 5 років тому

      My buddy has a f250 with a 460 and dual tanks he uses the secondary tank every three days due to it sucking on gas luckily he just bought a 2.2 s10 for a daily

  • @lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930
    @lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930 5 років тому +2

    A friend of mine had a red Lightening just like this one,he did some mods on it including a Paxton Supercharger which made it a real drag racing machine,the only other truck that could touch him at the local track was a Dodge RumbleBee. One of them would win one week and the other the next week. Both of them would run the quarter mile in the mid to high 13 second range. That Lightening would plant you in the seat at wide open throttle

  • @teceit
    @teceit 5 років тому +11

    I love how these guys talk about 140,000 miles like high mileage. My Silverado with 297,000 in the driveway is crying listening to them.

  • @klefusmcdonald2644
    @klefusmcdonald2644 5 років тому +2

    Thought I slept and woke up in 1995, well done video, well done.

  • @rgbigdog
    @rgbigdog 5 років тому +4

    Back in 2010 I bought a used 1994 F150 Lightning for $4,500 I put about $1,500 into the truck. New rear tires, new shocks , new parking brake cabel, new Lightning Decals, new plugs , wires, rotor and cap, new vale cover gasket, bought a complete used Bassani equal length shorter headers exhaust system. Had the headers power coated black. Recondition the engine bay and some engine components, new radiator, sway bar links. Went to the auto recycling to get a decent radiator core support to recondition ( the one in the truck was rotten at the bottom) a completed jack and a better coolant/windshield washer tank, new fog lamps, new rubber channels for the door windows. It was a fun truck that got about 10 miles to a gallon of gas. Sold the truck in fall of 2012 for the same amount that I bought it for.

    • @XploreAz
      @XploreAz 5 років тому +1

      You did all that for $1,500? Impressive.

    • @chefderappa4838
      @chefderappa4838 5 років тому

      That would cost way more today lol

    • @rgbigdog
      @rgbigdog 5 років тому

      @@chefderappa4838 LMC Truck saved me a lot of money the hardware to mount the reconditioned radiator core support was about $150, the dealer parts department was around $300. Also RockAuto was a big money saver. The owner of the Auto Salvage yard is a friend so any parts that I bought from him I got a killer deal on them.

  • @andrewbelmudez6985
    @andrewbelmudez6985 5 років тому +1

    Because of a high demand for pick up trucks in the US, I think Ford and GM should bring back these two iconic muscle trucks for young truck buyers (who want to haul a*s rather than payload). Same goes with Ram. They need to take this opportunity ASAP before we switch over to electric cars in the future.

  • @mylanmiller9656
    @mylanmiller9656 5 років тому +6

    GM verses ford 454 head to head with a 351 that is about par for the coarse!

  • @soaredwood162
    @soaredwood162 2 роки тому +1

    I will say This up front, I am a Ford guy, but I would definitely own/drive a Chevy 454 SS.

  • @MrBaeza1994
    @MrBaeza1994 5 років тому +21

    Can’t believe this was filmed in 2019, it seems so old, perhaps early 90’s

    • @connorparrish4182
      @connorparrish4182 5 років тому +4

      MrBaeza1994 I was filmed about 10 years ago, I remember watching it when I was about 12.

    • @mtb416
      @mtb416 5 років тому +2

      That’s because these truck/car shows continue to follow a rubric that predates even the 90s you think it represents. I prefer it, especially when alternatives are essentially absurd reality TV shows.

    • @evdawg7757
      @evdawg7757 5 років тому +1

      This is older. I watched every episode with my old man every weekend 😂

    • @HellaNorCal916
      @HellaNorCal916 5 років тому

      I won’t to try what you’re smok’n.....🤯

  • @matthewkrisowaty7053
    @matthewkrisowaty7053 5 років тому

    I got the black ford lightning in 93 off the show room floor first day I saw it.. went in for a 4 wheel drive pickup in January..upstate New York.. saw the Black Death sitting inside.. salesman said wanna drive it.. well hell yes..drove it like it was built to do.. man it was a blast .. I mostly loved how well it stuck to the road . It was like a slot car with both gas tanks filled. So yes when I returned to the dealer I got Black Death that day . The smiles on my face driving her home .. I lived 10 miles away..think I got home 6-7 hrs later.. OH yes the Long Way home.. lol

  • @jessekulbe1855
    @jessekulbe1855 5 років тому +6

    "it's a wonder this truck even runs" well it'll run with open headers so I don't think a few bad welds are gonna shut it down

  • @Long-nd8bq
    @Long-nd8bq 5 років тому

    I've seen middle school kids who can weld better than that. Love the trucks. Grew up in the 80's and 90's and I love trucks. My 91 GMC stepside I'm building to be a muscle truck. I have taken off all the chrome (mirrors, grille, bumpers) and put on the 454 SS mirrors, color matched front bumper, roll pan in the rear, took off the emblems and rubber trim. Just painted it all fresh dark gray last summer. Needs a drop and some wheels now. It has no cats, EGR delete, K&N filter, injector pod spacer, Hypertech "salad bowl", 3" flowmaster 40 series dumped, B&M shift kit (chirps second easily), timing advanced at the distributor, 180 degree t-stat, and electric fan. Would love some 4.10 gears and Detroit true trac.

  • @zacharymurdock6721
    @zacharymurdock6721 2 роки тому +4

    Geez this episode takes me back, I remember watching this a long time ago, on Spike TV! PowerBlock is probably one of the many reasons why I work on cars professionally now! 👨🏼‍🔧

  • @danmallery9142
    @danmallery9142 5 років тому +2

    Really wish Ford would make a Lightning again. Love the Raptor but a sport truck would be a nice addition.

  • @jayyoutube8790
    @jayyoutube8790 5 років тому +69

    I had a truck with that 454 back in the 90’s. It was such a dog..

    • @painterboy454
      @painterboy454 5 років тому +10

      I got to experience a brand new 454 SS run against me twice in the quarter mile in Youngstown Ohio in 1990. It was a 16 second truck.

    • @painterboy454
      @painterboy454 5 років тому +2

      @Steven Lindsey, the 1988 Police Package Caprice with an LS5 454 and nitrous I was racing ran a 13.2 WELL ahead of that truck, lol.

    • @Westtxcowboy100
      @Westtxcowboy100 5 років тому +3

      I use to spank those 454 ss's with my 89 chevy stepside back in the day, only thing done was headers, lil more than stock cam, they were lame!

    • @waterloo123100
      @waterloo123100 5 років тому +6

      Steven Lindsey Your Corolla is almost 20 years newer obviously it’s gonna have more power. Everyone knows American v8s struggled to make good power after the Emission laws took place. If you were to carburetor/head swap that 454. It would be making at least 400 hp to the wheels.

    • @waterloo123100
      @waterloo123100 5 років тому +4

      Steven Lindsey Yeah if you want to make more then 500 hp to the wheels. There’s plenty of low compression 454’s making mid 400 hp with just a top end swap. All depends on your build.

  • @whitetrashandhellbound6905
    @whitetrashandhellbound6905 5 років тому

    I bought the same year lightning a few years ago, huge fan. I'm a FORD guy through and through, but that Chev 454 is sexy too. Appreciate the video.

  • @Iconhulk
    @Iconhulk 5 років тому +15

    Lightning anyday of the week, twice on Sunday..

  • @neilshaw5717
    @neilshaw5717 4 роки тому +2

    When he opened the door of that Chevy, I could instantly smell the interior. Weird how some smells just stay in your memory forever.

  • @adrenaholic1
    @adrenaholic1 5 років тому +6

    Syclone is still the baddest muscletruck ever

  • @phillycheezcake907
    @phillycheezcake907 5 років тому

    "Wide open throttle " the most American sounding song with all the potential for greatness lol i didn't know i needed a 454 ss tell this video thanks -Trucks!

  • @2010HarleyDynaFXD
    @2010HarleyDynaFXD 5 років тому +71

    GMC Syclone would smoke both of those trucks stock.

    • @johngregg9187
      @johngregg9187 5 років тому +3

      It weighs a lot less than both of these trucks

    • @3madeamps
      @3madeamps 5 років тому

      You dam right

    • @teds4983
      @teds4983 5 років тому

      @@dufus2273 funny guy

    • @austinlafleur1484
      @austinlafleur1484 5 років тому +7

      O no shit, the syclone didn't even weight 4000lb it was all wheel drive backed up with a 4.3 Turbo'd engine that was a little truck that got a reputation for smokin Ferraris in the 90s what's a lighting and a 454!? Ya know!👌

    • @austinlafleur1484
      @austinlafleur1484 5 років тому +2

      But im not gonna lie the lighting and the 454 were pretty badass

  • @calebmurphy9082
    @calebmurphy9082 5 років тому +1

    Blast from the past! SS454 Ford lighting cyclone/typhoon I really miss those days..

  • @212acres3
    @212acres3 5 років тому +3

    When I started driving I always wanted one of these bad boys! Heck I still want one!

  • @ronalddonaldson3364
    @ronalddonaldson3364 5 років тому

    I'm a Ford Guy. I love my 2009 STX Supercab. 4.6L V-8. I can't complain. 150,000 + miles.

  • @huculak302
    @huculak302 5 років тому +35

    Haha, the ford makes like 35 more hp and the same amount of torque with 103 less cubes

    • @sonofthesheriff
      @sonofthesheriff 5 років тому

      It's an emission game. You dont think the same ford product would have beat out the 454 Chevy in 1970 do you?

    • @huculak302
      @huculak302 5 років тому +4

      sonofthesheriff no but a 1970s 460 would which is equal

    • @willc3586
      @willc3586 5 років тому +1

      And a whole 3 hundredths of a second faster because it's doing what a normal ford does. Sucking at putting the power on the ground.

    • @85MasterV
      @85MasterV 5 років тому +5

      @@willc3586 Its 3 tenths, not 3 hundredths. Which if you were a drag racer, you'd know is a lot.

    • @MyFriendPeter-d4k
      @MyFriendPeter-d4k 5 років тому +3

      @@willc3586 tenths, not hundredths....on a hundred less cubes.

  • @Nick-qs4re
    @Nick-qs4re 5 років тому +1

    This was in my era too. I had a 1994 Dodge Dakota sport with a 318 and 5 speed manual trans. These 2 trucks got to see my taillights on a regular basis.

    • @josephduplessis868
      @josephduplessis868 5 років тому

      I knew a guy with a 5sp 318 Dakota reg cab around '99. He embarrassed a couple of 5.9 rt Dakotas at the track. Those were some. >R< eal. >T< urds back then

  • @alexdelgadillo1569
    @alexdelgadillo1569 5 років тому +20

    That’s 4 years of technology difference

    • @royrichardson9164
      @royrichardson9164 5 років тому +2

      And neither truck really changed the years they were made. There really isnt any difference between a 93-95 lightning except 94 later blocks were roller cam ready...

    • @Coupydog
      @Coupydog 5 років тому +4

      Not so much. Ford was always ahead of Chevy in the Performance realm. The '87-on Musangs ran circles around their Z28 & IROC roadmates.

    • @satown2150
      @satown2150 4 роки тому

      @303StreetMachines been fords go to since then. Just slap a supercharger on everything because our motors can't compete with the modern marvel that is the LS series motors.

  • @alexhernandez6480
    @alexhernandez6480 3 роки тому +1

    I drive a 1992 ss454. it's my daily driver I've had it for 28 years

  • @Coronet_shop
    @Coronet_shop 5 років тому +57

    They should of came with a 5 spd from the factory

    • @anthonywebber2211
      @anthonywebber2211 5 років тому +16

      @Robert LaPointe
      He meant manual transmission, not automatic transmission

    • @eizzle78
      @eizzle78 5 років тому

      Robert LaPointe my 2016 Jeep Cherokee is a 9 speed auto. It doesn’t get any better mileage than my 4 speed Mazda.

    • @noelmedina6925
      @noelmedina6925 5 років тому +3

      @Robert LaPointe the current 10 speed that Ford and Chevy share is great, it shifts faster than any person could and because of the amount of gears it gets better gas milage and accelerates faster than a 5 speed manual could.

    • @eizzle78
      @eizzle78 5 років тому

      Robert LaPointe both are 4 cylinders, 4x4 Jeep, it averages around 26 mpg, my Mazda with a couple mods would average 28.

    • @SGTJDerek
      @SGTJDerek 5 років тому +3

      @@noelmedina6925 while all that is true, it's also a hell of a lot more expensive. A simple clutch is a damn sight cheaper to replace than those shift packs. I WISH my '93 had an NV4500.

  • @rcbronco
    @rcbronco 5 років тому +1

    I was happy to click on this to watch it but realized I saw this same video about 10yrs ago.

  • @Braaaap815
    @Braaaap815 5 років тому +6

    Lmao.. I was relieved to see that the exhaust welds were worse than mine..

  • @nothingtoseehere177
    @nothingtoseehere177 5 років тому

    The polite jabs they throw back and forth are great haha

  • @GUNSLINGEROUTDOORS
    @GUNSLINGEROUTDOORS 5 років тому +14

    Ive owned both trucks.. the lighting kicked the crap out of the ss.. but tons of performance parts out for the 454 and the 351w so both can be a great truck.. but personally ill choose the lighting everytime it was just a better platform..

    • @bradzimmerman3171
      @bradzimmerman3171 5 років тому +6

      F150 has always been a better truck , everyone knows it but blowhard Chevy fans try real hard to bs their way through

    • @jeremyyazzie3474
      @jeremyyazzie3474 5 років тому +1

      Have a 98 k1500 5.7 5 speed Z71 strong motor. Flowmaster..yeah. Passing many fords on the road

  • @nyplantingsgardendesigners5645
    @nyplantingsgardendesigners5645 5 років тому

    love this kind of stuff. I know everyone says they would rather see XYZ but truly, I would LOVE to see the Gen2 Ford Lightning and later model chevy go at it mainly because I think the Fords are under rated.
    The Gen2 Lightnings are the most reliable and under rated vehicles made in history. Thanks for the vid. Lastly: Using non antolock brakes means modulating your pressure manually upon the pedal with experience, not simply stomping the pedal. Manually pulsing your foot pressure just like the antilock brakes automatically do for us. geez.

  • @otsenres1636
    @otsenres1636 5 років тому +9

    I like the crossovers to other shows and hosts! 😎

  • @OneForTheSouth
    @OneForTheSouth 5 років тому

    My neighbor banged my cat in what he called a D-Shape. I had him arrested and had to have my kitty put down. The D-shaped exhaust thing brings back bad memories...Just fucking with you, great channel!

  • @2jzs13
    @2jzs13 5 років тому +3

    Damn The nostalgia! I watched these episodes when i was in middle school

    • @172-e5s
      @172-e5s 5 років тому

      Lame production. Just a bunch of wanna-be's

  • @noebarajas9907
    @noebarajas9907 2 роки тому +2

    Such a beautiful Ford ❤

  • @jamest.5001
    @jamest.5001 5 років тому +3

    A 4L80 would be awesome, a cam intake , maybe headers, it be Awesomely awesome, a set of aluminum heads, who could ask for more, in a street engine!!

  • @kellyh4035
    @kellyh4035 3 роки тому +1

    SRT10 Ram is the King to this day.

  • @kfstreich4787
    @kfstreich4787 5 років тому +24

    E-forty-d
    E-four-oh-Dee
    That's a letter not a number

  • @30AndHatingIt
    @30AndHatingIt 5 років тому +2

    Screw brand loyalty... I would love EITHER of these trucks!

    • @slowpoke4321
      @slowpoke4321 3 роки тому

      Never been a big Ford guy but that’s one Ford I’ve always wanted

  • @kramnull8962
    @kramnull8962 5 років тому +31

    I guess when you have millions of dollars backing you, a cheap little Rear main seal isn't important...

    • @soppingwetburgers6493
      @soppingwetburgers6493 5 років тому

      Mustabeenoverlooked mhmm

    • @reallyhappenings5597
      @reallyhappenings5597 5 років тому +1

      what's so bad about a RMS?

    • @SiriusC1024
      @SiriusC1024 5 років тому +2

      When you're able to do the work yourself it's still just a cheap little rear main seal.

    • @scdevon
      @scdevon 5 років тому +2

      The leaking rear main seal isn't hurting anything for now. It's more of an annoyance and it probably only leaks when the engine is shut off anyhow.

  • @yung2ts21
    @yung2ts21 2 роки тому

    Kick a few Syclones to the curb he says 🤣🤣🤣🤣 EEEEEHHHH WRONG next 😂

  • @Bowtie4me
    @Bowtie4me 5 років тому +29

    Well TBi Vs multiport. 🤷‍♂️
    off course the multiport runs better.
    just check the Vortec 454 to see the gain in power.
    Even the 5.7 Vortec(96-01) is making lots better.

    • @delljr2769
      @delljr2769 5 років тому

      GM TBI from '88-95 were junk. Run forever and start right up but NOT even close to performance engines, not even a decent platform.
      I had a '94 GMC Sierra K1500 4x4 with TBI 350, lifted with 35s. A guy I worked with had a heavier Chevy Tahoe, 1996 K1500 with Vortec 350, same lift, same size tires and he would smoke me every time.
      Nice truck, clean, cool body style but no power.
      Now a days you can get those LS3 E-Rod crate engines designed to pass CA emission/smog and have 400+ horsepower.

    • @srvanddt1
      @srvanddt1 5 років тому +3

      Very true. TBI trucks absolutely suck for any kind of performance. Besides, Ford did a way better job in matching parts. All Chevy did was take the big block from the 1 ton and put it in a half ton. It is the same engine out of the 1 ton.

    • @saltysteel3996
      @saltysteel3996 5 років тому +1

      You mean the Vortec 496? The 496 8.1L was a monster!

    • @alexcorona
      @alexcorona 5 років тому +3

      excuses excuses, y'all got embarrassed by a small block.

    • @hawkdsl
      @hawkdsl 5 років тому +3

      Gm's TBI was rock solid, well designed, and one of the first of it's kind. They were (back then anyway) trying to make the most dependable truck you could by.. and one of the reasons GMT400 trucks are one of the best Chevy Truck runs in history.

  • @mungaloyd1
    @mungaloyd1 5 років тому

    Had a stock red 93..cowl hood roll pan chrome wheels black windows..15.3 88mph flowmaster delete..sideways everyday..never done anything but swap rear tires and change oil..i want one again..ode to 1999 and the women who loved that truck!!and kicker seperates with a rockford 15" between the seats and remote stereo..19 years old and bullet proof!!

  • @sinformant
    @sinformant 5 років тому +3

    5:41 😂i love how they even left a piece of mig wire hanging from the garbage welds! Looks like stevie wonder works part time in a muffler shop.

    • @breimer87
      @breimer87 5 років тому

      A piece of wire. More like several pieces lmao. Booger welds haha

    • @breimer87
      @breimer87 5 років тому

      A piece of wire. More like several pieces of wire haha. Booger welds lmao

    • @sinformant
      @sinformant 5 років тому

      @@breimer87 yeah I commented that before they got to the rest of the exhaust😂 sad to say I was welding 5 x better than this before I was even in highschool. Built my own exhaust for my f150 when I was 17 and all we had was a oxy acetylene torch and a stick welder from the ww2 era. Hell I even took two sections of pipe and pie cut then with a sawzall , welded them back together and made a large cowbell exhaust tip.even made the thing shoot flames with some primary wire, a switch, and old coil,and spark plug. I couldn't even imagine kids these days doing any of that.They are too busy with their fortnite, or whatever game is out lol

    • @montanaplease
      @montanaplease 5 років тому

      That's what you get with unions

  • @Bmr4life
    @Bmr4life 2 роки тому

    I loved watching this back in the day.

  • @yahyaaa635
    @yahyaaa635 5 років тому +5

    Thank you for this video from Saudi Arabia 🙏❤️🌹

    • @claude6318
      @claude6318 5 років тому +2

      Go ride a Lamborghini boi

    • @yahyaaa635
      @yahyaaa635 5 років тому +1

      @@claude6318 Those who live outside Saudi Arabia calculate that we ride luxury cars 😂😂😂 but if I have a Lamborghini you will find me here? 🤔

  • @saltysteel3996
    @saltysteel3996 5 років тому +1

    My 07 LBZ Duramax could drag both of these trucks at the same time down the road sideways. Lol still though, I love the SS and Lightening trucks. Also love the Cyclone too.

  • @ricardoextcab6942
    @ricardoextcab6942 5 років тому +9

    You can still pass inspection with no catalytic converters I don’t have them but they just charge me a little more

    • @drunk3n_m0nk12
      @drunk3n_m0nk12 5 років тому +5

      It all depends on what state you are in. Here in Florida there is no inspections. If they're in a state like California then inspections will be very strict.

    • @repnatl
      @repnatl 5 років тому

      We have emissions in GA and both of these are exempt due to age. So who cares about a cat.

    • @johnkendall6962
      @johnkendall6962 5 років тому

      In Pa it goes county by county If I lived a mile north I would have to have a emission inspection

    • @chefderappa4838
      @chefderappa4838 5 років тому +1

      E test are just scams. The money doesn’t go to green technology. It goes to “free” stuff.

    • @coltonjacobs5383
      @coltonjacobs5383 5 років тому

      We don’t even have inspection in Oklahoma. Then again, we do produce a lot of petroleum product.

  • @UBR_MXMU
    @UBR_MXMU 5 років тому +1

    I like the idea of having a small block pulling the same power as a big block saving a lot of weight and using most of the engine

  • @fatman1288
    @fatman1288 5 років тому +16

    it kills me to say this but the lightning is way nicer looking than the 454 ss and thats from a GM guy. the 454 ss trucks were a bit boring

    • @Texas_Holdin
      @Texas_Holdin 5 років тому +1

      Connar Downes no

    • @cyan1d3killa
      @cyan1d3killa 5 років тому

      And thats exactly why im turning my 88 silverado into a sleeper SS.

  • @PRL1290
    @PRL1290 5 років тому

    454SS My friends older brother bought one of these brand new, it was his first vehicle ever. When he wasn't home and the keys were there, me and his little brother would take it out and joy ride it.
    Beast of a truck, the second gear scratch was awesome. we were around 13-14 years old.
    Older bro had a slight fender bender in it mostly front end and it kinda rotted away in back yard, some parts were replaced but he ended up selling it on the cheap. It was White.

  • @MrWhitetailtracker
    @MrWhitetailtracker 5 років тому +3

    Part 2??

  • @curlylarrymoe
    @curlylarrymoe 5 років тому +2

    Its amazing how little power that giant 454 puts out.

    • @shawnd567
      @shawnd567 2 роки тому

      Variable valve timing is a god send.

    • @ThePokessmot
      @ThePokessmot Рік тому

      They were chocked bad from factory very cheap to wake up the 454 seen it many times

  • @Roadkill-jo2uq
    @Roadkill-jo2uq 5 років тому +7

    I miss my 93 lightning but on the bright side I’m getting a 2010 raptor as a replacement

    • @jasonvoorhees6657
      @jasonvoorhees6657 5 років тому +1

      Good luck with that my buddy got a 2012 raptor and it was tore up more than it was running

    • @whitelamborghinigoesskrrts9948
      @whitelamborghinigoesskrrts9948 5 років тому

      pretty much same boat sold the 94 white lightning. #3*** something.. 225k on motor, Jba headers true dual, side exit .
      a supercharged coyote would beat the shit out of the first gen and second gen lightnings.
      A new 5.0 tuned coyote on e85 2.9 whipple can boast 950whp .. so unless one throws a turbo or supercharger on the 5.8l it's just a sweet novelty truck

    • @coltonjacobs5383
      @coltonjacobs5383 5 років тому

      Just make sure you don’t get a 5.4. I don’t know what they had in that year.

    • @whitelamborghinigoesskrrts9948
      @whitelamborghinigoesskrrts9948 5 років тому

      Ya Boi CJ 5.8 351w port tuned fuel injection , auto

    • @f4udhorn
      @f4udhorn 4 роки тому

      My '95 Lightning, which I wish I had never sold, had a supercharged, .030 over forged piston 351, mild cam rebuilt engine. Also MSD ignition and a well built E4OD, that would throw your head thru the back glass on the one-two shift and lay 5" of rubber. It blew the doors off a 454 on nitros one day. Ran 7.30's in the 1/8.

  • @dallastexas9370
    @dallastexas9370 5 років тому

    Man ... lighting was legends that you would read about more than see on the road ... the 454 SS I would see othen... both are amazing trucks to see when i was growing up! I would take the lighting if I had option.

  • @tomnekuda3818
    @tomnekuda3818 5 років тому +5

    Love that coat-hanger weld job on the Ford....LOL!

  • @lowest.tier.garage
    @lowest.tier.garage 5 років тому +2

    Awesome! Can't wait for part 2!

  • @alexcorona
    @alexcorona 5 років тому +3

    Big Block Chevy getting embarassed by a SMALL Block Ford....same old story 😂