He packs considerable amount of muscle. Probably weighs about as much as his opponent despite being shorter. His arms are dense thus even without good technique he is landing some heavy hits.
90% of fighting is mental and has to do with the ability to strategize and apply certain fighting techniques properly. The other 10% has to do with conditioning.
@@Chashaobao3938 I feel like he has done some soccer, he had balance, he returned to his stance, and his first choice against a bigger opponent was leg kicks, that all makes me think that he did something like soccer.
That's my brother📢📢📢❤❤❤ im so proud of him. He and my other brothers played soccer and wrestling in high school and i am amazed everytime he sees sonething and is able to replicate. I love it. He is just brilliant in what he is able to do and endure. More grace to him and more knockout!!!!!!!!! ❤
As a short person, seeing another short person chopping a tree is awesome! And yes a lot can be learned online for sure, that’s where I started learning before I started to actually train.
I first learned karate in elementary school from a book in the library. 4th grade I found a dojo for a dollar a lesson. A few years there and I transitioned to jujitsu. Book knowledge definitely seemed to be a big start
Definitely get him out there! Show the people the difference between “normal” beginning fighters and natural born fighters. Totally agree that you can learn from media. And your current understanding dictates how much of that information you’ll retain to then later put into practice.
The main issue with self learning is that you need to be able to be self critical. Most people just straight up cant learn from themselves. I have sparring partners and even then we film to learn. You also cant learn to take a punch from a video which is a serious issue. Guaranteed anybody successful is going to have already done some street fights.
@@InWitheNew Sparring is fine, drilling is way better. I actually had someone on Streetbeefs facebook try to convince me that sparing was this great training method "trust me brah"... Sparing is literally the only thing anyone wants to do and the people with holes in their game just get those things reinforced. Drilling takes discipline and you will master aspects of your game doing it. I'm positive all these people who get in the ring on Streetbeefs and crumble in seconds spar their friends. I've had more benefit knuckling down alone in my garage and putting in some real work shadowboxing than any session of gym-tag.
Yes, bring him onto your channel! A few questions are: How did he practice what he learned from UA-cam? How often did he practice? Did he have a sparring partner, or did everything on his own?
In my personal experience, no amount of being told how to fight can ever make up for actual fighting experience. Sparring and training are extremely important.
There's always that one in a hundred person who can see something and replicate it, I had a friend like that in primary school he'd replicate moves from Bruce Lee movies effortlessly right after watching them. Max Holloway had only learned from the UFC game up until his debut.
You can get the basic anatomical movements down too for stuff like punches. It’s not gonna give you the best punch but you can learn how to throw simple strikes well enough to use them in a fight. Obviously, sparring and constant training will make you much better, but why not combine all 3?
I recommend for anyone who is training alone, record yourself with your phone or a webcam or something. A lot of times when you watch videos of yourself hitting the heavy bag you'll notice a lot of things you're doing wrong. I also recommend training outside where the entire world can see you. This will force you to train harder and more seriously, and it'll help you get used to performing under pressure.
Yes, bring him on. A question to ask him could be: "After watching so many videos what did he decide to focus on and what did decide to discard, and why?"
love that one of my favorite questions cause i too realized in the streets you have to discard a lot doesnt mean you cant use technique like people say but you cant do anything flashy and expect to win unless you are far to skilled over the other person then i guess you can just make them look like a fool but i wouldnt try it as its so easy to catch someone slipping when they try to clown someone
I think it would be a great idea to bring him to the studio - he looks like he's a natural athlete. I'd like to know how quickly he can learn a new technique then execute it properly.
@@UltmtDestroyer doesn't matter, a weeb is someone who is obsessed with Japanese culture, Israel Adesanya is considered a weeb and he likes 2 or 3 anime, most of his references are pop culture like comics and WWE and he's a breakdancer yet "weeb" is what people label him as
I'd love to have him in the studio at least for an interview. Ask him how, by watching only UA-cam, did he reach that level of prowess. Did he shadow box, spar with a friend, just hit a bag, etc. Drills and such. How did he practice what he saw and what is the most important skills he feels he learned by doing so.
My dad who's now 73 would tell me how he fought in his teenage years. (No videos back in his day). All he had was books which he would tell me he read from and applied what he learned. He would train like he was a professional, as in every day. His "sparring" came in the form of street fighting. He was well known in his neighborhood/s because he would always fight and gained respect by beating his opponents. The most interesting story for me was when he fought a professional boxer. His friend came up to him once and asked if he could fight someone that had beat him up, my dad said yes and to his surprise it was the boxer. My dad knew the boxer because he was well known around that part of town. I rember my dad told me that he thought to himself "shit what did I get myself into"? But he wasn't going to back down because he already told his friend yes. Well the boxer was beating my dad up, knocking him down left and right, up until my dad told him to let him use kicks since he's a pro. The guy agreed and that's when my dad told me the fight changed, my dad knew how to kick as well and from there the fight lasted an hour or so until the boxer called it off. It was funny cuz my dad told me he had to kick the living shit out of him just to stand a chance at beating him. Anyway. It shouldn't be a surprise to learn how to fight from UA-cam. I think b. Chan has spared before though, if not....damn he's good.
@@Meloncholymadness yes, you can see the footage on icymikes channel. It's been 3 months so I can't remember exactly how far back it was. Maybe 6-12 months ago? They were definitely misrepresenting things here and I was honestly not a huge fan of that. They didn't lie, it just kind of felt like a lie by omission to me
@@mr.doctorcaptain1124 doesn't surprise me, I've caught Icy Mike lying quite a few times over the years. I watch because the videos are entertaining, but there's a few dodgy things I've noticed. He has short man syndrome too, can tell by the way he talks down to everyone that's bigger than him etc.
Blackie chan needs some striking drills and I feel he'd be an amazing amateur. His ceiling is also very high based on his fight intelligence. So much potential in him
Id say, he is more highly motivated than special. If you're really into something (I mean his health and core fitness are obvious) then you're going to persevere and perfect stuff. Just like the people that go to classes. Some take it seriously, some less so. He trains hard however he does it, and that's his talent.
Definitely bring him on the channel if he’s interested, you/we might even learn something from an instinctual but gifted fighters different style/technique. Keep doin what your doin, much appreciated!
That was an insane performance from someone with no sparring or organized training. He was calm, aggressive, and controlled. He'll be a monster if he gets some formal training and experience.
I agree up to a point. If you can learn your basics from someone. Then you can learn from videos and books. Basics are the foundation of your training.
Get Balckie Chan in? Abso-f***ing-lutely. This was cool. A few years ago, I had 3 fights, won 1, despite people saying that I am skilled and pick up techniques easily. I've struggled with finding the aggression this guy seems to have naturally I would like to know how he prepared his mind and how he overcomes any inhibition towards really wanting to hurt someone.
I wasn't a fighter, but a soldier. Individuals always seem to either find a way to justify it so that it makes sense to them (professionalism for me personally) and use that or they fail at it.
Yeah, of course we want Blackie Chan! I want to know his mindset and how he learnt to read the opponents movement without sparing.. Or if he did spare, with who.. Maybe he is just a natural Street Fighter with a lot of reflexes and conditioning, but even this is very interesting, I would watch this anime.
The thing is with learning how to fight on your own is you’ll develop habits that are going to be hard to crunch later on when you want proper training. I love karate okay, although Muay Thai has been extremely difficult for me to transition to since my kyokushin background gave me “bad” habits.
I came from a Karate and Taekwondo back ground, and I'll never forget how hard it was for me to learn to do a proper Thai roundhouse with the shin. I was so used to not only connecting with some part of my foot, but also rarely had to "follow through" since in most of those kicks you bring your leg back. It took a lot of practice to get a barely capable ability to kick.
Yes you can absolutely learn how to do things on the internet IF you're practicing the techniques correctly and put time into training. And I can relate, because when I was a kid and parkour became a big thing on youtube, I spent hours watching instructional videos and even more hours going outside to train, and ended up learning how to do things I never thought I could do, but only because I took the time to watch the right people and listen very carefully to what they were saying, and then spent time practicing those things in a safe and gradual way. If you watch one video about how to do a backflip or how to throw a roundhouse kick and then run outside and try it, operating under the delusion that you've got it figured out, you're going to end up hurting yourself.
I use to do TKD on a high level, and I had some pretty tall guys in my studio, one guy was 6 4, heavily muscled, and frankly, with how long the fuckers legs were, he was flat out impossible for anyone in the 5'0-5'10 range to spar, My friend and I were 5'6 and we would literally try to 2 v 1 him in hard sparring and he would kick our asses without even trying with the 2 of us going all out. The main reason for this, is literally all the dude would have to do is lift up his leg, and we had literally no way to get in unless we tried to grapple his leg. (which we didn't do for it felt like cheating, we did this sparring under a weird modified TKD rules) but yeah every time the dude would just smoke us, even in a 2 on 1 match. Reach is a fucking bitch, and frankly, the way you beat it is through grappling or attacking the legs, and even then it's still a bitch. Honestly, a big reason i feel blackie won so one-sidedly, is he is just flat out in better physical condition, he looks like he participates in body building exercises regularly you can see how defined his muscles are, and his endurance to go for quick bursts without gassing out is very impressive. This is clearly a guy who hard core takes care of his fitness while throwing in combat training. You can tell from his movements he is passionate about the sport and loves it, and it wouldn't surprise me if we see him in ufc one day.
If ur opponent is taller than you and you can't close the distance.. think first, use your legs, because ur leg is longer than ur hand, after u hit him with ur leg, then close the distance and hit him with ur fist
totally man, im 5'7ish and my friend is like 5'11, its alot of fun but i gotta time my shots extra careful coz he has hella reach advantage, as well as a bit of boxing experience
People don't realize that martial arts are just a force multiplier. You're still constrained by what your body is capable of doing. If you're very inflexible and heavy, you're going to be a terrible at tae kwon do. If you're a 95 lb, 5'0" woman, you're not going to be box a heavyweight. You start with your base athleticism, conditioning, and body type, then multiply it by adding skill. Ultimately, you want to build your base fitness, strength, speed, and flexibility when you train. This guy just demonstrated this idea. This guy's clearly stocky, strong, fast, and naturally aggressive at baseline. You can give him basics and let him execute with them and he'll do well because he's already very fit. If you watch what he did, it's just fundamental kickboxing. Good leg kicks, good level changes, good resets to his stance so he's light on his feet, and good head movement for defense. Nothing flashy. No tricks. No black belt stuff.
@@kma3647 true do to my size everyone told me martial arts and kung fu would be better but still heard people saying it was useless yet it works better than even boxing for me and that says something as im a great counter puncher some people are better suited to other things cause hate to admit it but no matter my skill level speed and reaction time even if i dodge every single punch i cant box a heavywieght since even with overtime damage to places that hurt with the gloves on they can just shrug off my blows now if it was bare handed where i can actually fully open up my hands that might be a different story especially if theres no rules and its just a real fight
Traditional MA schools is interchangeable with BJJ/MMA gym in terms of your point. There are plenty of folks training at those schools that would freeze completely in a real conflict
You said it yourself, he's a special dude. Bring him out! Ask him about his athletic background. He might have killer genetics but no one has abs and movement that explosive untrained... the dude goes hard in another sport.
@@CubedNightShot9777 everyone has defined abs if their bodyfat percentage is low. Having defined Abs doesn’t mean having strong abs. Anyway, this guys has really good genetics, and for sure he works out with weights or bodyweight. Combine that with a really low bodyfat % and good genetics and you have that look.
@@justaghost3285 no, not like that, "poverty abs" that are formed from basically just calorie restriction and no working out, will not jut out like that. look at 8:53 those abs are muscle that has been built to be larger than what you have naturally.
He seems like he has been sparring with his buddies a bit. No way he has ZERO experience. But he is clearly a talented athlete, and thats insane if thats his first fight.
Honestly, you can get a lot of the reaction speed from shadow boxing, honestly after doing both classes and shadow boxing, i can say that shadow boxing and imagining an invisible opponent who is flat out better then me, helped me out more with things like head movement, more then sparring did. Sparring mostly helped me get use to aiming more efficiently and not getting nervous. But everyone is different
I mean he's really good for a UA-cam trained dude, and clearly quite fit. I think if it was a martial arts fight, there's quite a lot of stuff to be done about efficiency, guard and the like, but if you're not fighting a guy with fight experience it's unlikely they will punish you for it.
I'd like him to know what his prior athletic experience is. Personally I've found that rock climbing helps immensely with takedowns / takedown defence / clinch grappling. And dance really helps with fast footwork, as well as picking up combos / sequences in class. And then with HEMA giving me a sense of distance management, I found myself doing much better than others with my level of experience in Muay Thai class.
Rock climber here, i am exponentially better at striking lmao I am great at fighting off my back (for someone who has been to 5 jiu jitsu classes) and suck ass at takedowns (even for 3 wrestling classes)
I played basketball and honestly when I started boxing, just with combinations I learned on the internet, I was already taking care of people with 1 to 3 years of training.
I spent six years teaching myself how to box from UA-cam before joining a gym and yes I would have learned the basics faster had i started on the gym straight away but everything I learned on my own made me way ahead in body mechanics footwork conditioning and punching power. The only thing I learned from the coaches was how to fight like that coach. The team conditioning workouts, the different bags, and the sparring is the only thing you can't easily replicate on your own. You need to spar if you want to be good enough to defeat someone who does.
I like your content I cant believe more people havent subscribed to you, you deserve it from the very interesting catalog ive seen coming from you so far I dont even know if you still upload but i hope so i turnt that bell on
I feel like for the average person who’s trying to get into a martial art can for sure learn some from UA-cam but as said in the video it can be dependent on your current mastery. For me I’m learning basic techniques, basic footwork and fundamentals. But that’s about all I’m comfortable learning right now.
For sure bring the guy out! I’d love to hear everything about the lead up to him fighting in street beefs. How it was to learn from UA-cam etc. Excellent video, Mike! Shout out at the end was awesome
I love the fact that you take the time to point out his natural abilities, as well as what he needs to work on and what he’s already doing decent. Most people either purely love or purely hate fighters and it’s refreshing to see someone with more in-depth opinions, instant sub
Fuck yes get him on the channel. Long form interview, please. Get his summarised life story leading up to victory. He's an awesome natural fighter! Great video!
5:50 "Leg kicks suck if they aren't conditioned" - this brought me back to when I was a teenager... a friend of mine and I fought each other for fun. We wound up having a leg kicking competition towards the end 😅 I think it just went on until we were both too tired. Kids do the dumbest things 🤘
Before I ever went to a Muay Thai gym or trained I watched southpaw legends, petrosyan , yodsanklai , sanchi being left handed , and learned how to get my lead foot to the outside to use my power hand or body kick, or how to get my head offline , learned to parry a jab, or when they have their guard up use lead hand to pull hand down and land cross , like lomochenko , remember being asked how long I’d been doing it by others, I still watch guys like mma shredded ( Jeff chan ) slowly breakdown a technique and then use in sparring and then try myself in class when sparring
Ive Been watching street beefs on and off for a few years. I remember watching a beef fight and neither had any kind of training and I was kinda cringing but then i thought wait this is a great idea for two people to handle this in a controlled environment, no concrete to fall and hit your head, no friends jumping in if theres blood i believe they stop it. This is really good for ordinary people to get that primal side of themselves out. If anything it may encourage a few to get in shape.
I'd love to know if he's done any sparring with people who are also untrained just to practice what he saw on UA-cam and then see you teach him some fundamentals and finally some sparring.
I tried to learn from yt and books for few years before having the financial means to actually train with an instructor. I did learn from the yt and books, but it was a very slow process with me constantly checking if I'm doing something wrong. I was able to learn more from a single year under an instructor and training partners than about 4-5 years training alone. With that said, using yt and books while learning from an instructor helped me learn much faster than my classmates as I was getting more details on learned techniques and also playing around with new techniques they didn't know. So I do think it's possible to learn from yt and books, but it's much better if used more as a supplement to a class.
Definitely Definitely should invite him in. It would be amazing to see what his natural talents could evolve into after some hard classes. Guy is a natural.
I feel that I have learned a lot from H2H, and I find it reassuring to see someone else implementing it! Also, I would love to see a follow up with Blackie Chan.
Hell yeah that was pretty cool and yeah it would be awesome to see him on your show and in the studio working out and training with you guys live that'll be awesome
Definitely bring him in and sharpen his skills. Excellent point about your current level of knowledge having an affect on how much you may learn from videos. Another thing to consider is knowing what type of learner you are. I do know guys that can watch a video for the first time and perform the technique, no matter how sophisticated, as if they've been doing it for 50 years, I'm not not one of those guys. Great video, thank you!
Yes! Get Blackie Chan to the studio if you can, give him some lessons, tighten him up, make him a top notch pro! ;) I'd also like to say that from my perspective, I think that his aggression is what won him a significant percentage of that fight. He instantly had the other dude on the back foot and could play his game because of it.
You're both right & wrong when you say that your ability to learn from videos or other sources is based on your current ability. While it's true that if you already have some martial arts training, other techniques will become easier to learn from any source, you can start from ground 0 with no experience whatsoever. I know because I did it & a friend of mine did it. We trained together & while I make no claim to being as skilled as an MMA fighter, what I've learned, which was considerable, has saved me on more than one occasion. What is required to learn from videos or other sources (mine were primarily books) is an inherent or instinctive understanding of how to hurt people. Not that I'm violent I've just always been interested in fighting & the chess like aspect of it. So blackie chan does not surprise me one bit.
First time watching a video from your channel. Great stuff. That question you posed to the audience. Why even ask? Just do it. Good publicity for both the channel and Blackie Chan. Would be great to see how he improves after a few in-person session. Please film his movement in sparring before training (as baseline), And then compare with his movements at the end of the in-person training week.
You can, your learning skills and who you are watching are going to be the HUUGE difference. People used to tell me you can't teach yourself whatever, I'd always ask them, who taught the 1st guy?
Imagine him against someone in his weight class. It will be interesting to see how good of a grappler he is!. Can't wait to see if he accepts your invitation.
Sir that’s Affirmative!! Gitem in! You’re an awesome teacher, I dig your honesty and humbleness. It’s YOU the content creator’s personalty that keeps the subscribers like ME watching and following you. You definitely deserve the creds. I can tell Blackie Chan had some previous bouts. You can and will enhance arsenal. Kudos to you both.
I've learned mostly online and through practice on heavy bags, but I don't tell anyone that. No one's noticed that technically haven't taken boxing lessons yet.
I was actually in this situation, for years I've study martials arts on UA-cam all the way through middle school through high school. I could name all the moves that people performed. It wasn't until recently where I started taking boxing where I learned it was a completely different experience. And my technique and understanding of movements where all wrong.
I wouldn't say its wrong, because even street fighting has its place in fighting. Some street moves will be good against certain styles of fighting. My friend Aj is a street fighter and he is good, even against people who have trained for years in mma, boxing, etc. He is also not a sloppy fighter either. Obviously everyone is different lol
@@ljrandom147 true ive met street fighters who dusted me up way more then a trained fighter i will give them one thing over anything unorthodox techniques can especially work against a trained person cause there not used to off the wall attacks that dont make scientific sense so they might just not know what to do against it only reason i havent lost to one is cause just like them im a quick off the dome thinker who doesnt really need to think about it in all actuality i just do it in the heat of the moment through reaction time and second nature instinct
Hell yea I say bring him on! I train in a gym but I also train at home from UA-cam to so it'll be interesting to hear how he motivated himself to train everyday
I learned how to shoot a bow and arrow on youtube as well as play guitar...for the past few years I've become one of the best rangers in New england...it doesn't matter if you are shown the secrets of doing something well so much as it matters more if your willing to put in the time and energy to get to the point where those secrets are viable and maintainable! Thanks for your work your great and your crew is cool keep sparring brothers
How long has Blackie Chan been "training" from Hard2Hurt videos? Does he feel that he's ready to take it to the next level? He's clearly talented, but how much of that does he feel he really owes to UA-cam? Thanks again for all the great content. Yours is one of my favorite channels on this subject.
Yeah bring him out dude, im super interested in how he goes about learning from youtube. Im in a situation where ive had some experience in martial arts (tkd as a kid, small amount of boxing and some bjj), between covid and being sick myself for an extended period of time (not with covid) I havnt been able to get to a gym at all for almost 10months but ive been training solo at home (shadow boxing, footwork drills, I have a bob haha). Ive been bummed about not being able to train properly but my friend came down to my city last weekend, he has blackbelt in tkd and has been consistently training muay thai for 6months. We spared a bit and while his muay thai had clearly improved I wasnt as outskilled as I had been in the past, I felt much more comfortable, stable (movement) and had much better success gauging range. I was very surprised. TL:DR Havnt been able to go gym, train by self, spar friend who train lots, feel definite improvement, now super curious how Blackie Chan goes about learning from youtube. Bring him out!
Absolutely bring Blackie Chan to the studio. you should ask what tips from UA-cam he found the most useful. what tips he found the most easy to execute and the hardest to execute without a real gym and coach experience.
when i took jujitsu we all learned the same moves in class so when we were rolling my class mates knew what i was trying to do so i went on youtube to learn subs and escapes to be more unpredictable .....it was definitly useful .
Bring him! Lol. Very awesome. I would definitely like to know how he learned so quickly, and was it actually all just from the channel. Congrats on the fight Blackie!
We do have courses available at hard2hurt.teachable.com though lol... they are designed for intermediate to advanced practitioners.
I’d like to see you spare with him first them break it down and show what he needs to improve them spare again and compare the progress.
Absolutely get the guy in the studio! What a great opportunity for the channel and for him.
@8:57 Real talk Mike, a lot of us broke mf owe you so damn much... Getting into martial arts got me out of a rough time in my life. Thank you sir!
I consider myself an advanced beginner.
When are you going to do more vids on teachable? :)
There’s Martial Arts other than UA-cam?
Reddit who specialises in run-fu
There’s UA-cam other than martial arts?
Wikihow
I'm purple-belt in Youtubido.
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Yes...ABSOLUTELY bring Blackie Chan to the studio! Would like to see him work on punching fundamentals.
100%
yes
1000%, a weeks worth of privates
Bring him in
Asap
The guys looks like he’s conditioned and in shape he obviously has the heart get that man on the show
He packs considerable amount of muscle. Probably weighs about as much as his opponent despite being shorter.
His arms are dense thus even without good technique he is landing some heavy hits.
They said in the video that there was about a 30lb difference. 175 to I think 203.
90% of fighting is mental and has to do with the ability to strategize and apply certain fighting techniques properly. The other 10% has to do with conditioning.
@@azeke8 10 inch, 35 pound difference.
Hell yes, bring him on. He made Derek look like he was was the guy who learned from YT. I'd like to know what his athletic background is.
TRUTH!
Get Blackie Chan on ASAP!
Soccer!
@@Chashaobao3938 I feel like he has done some soccer, he had balance, he returned to his stance, and his first choice against a bigger opponent was leg kicks, that all makes me think that he did something like soccer.
That's my brother📢📢📢❤❤❤ im so proud of him. He and my other brothers played soccer and wrestling in high school and i am amazed everytime he sees sonething and is able to replicate. I love it. He is just brilliant in what he is able to do and endure. More grace to him and more knockout!!!!!!!!! ❤
As a short person, seeing another short person chopping a tree is awesome! And yes a lot can be learned online for sure, that’s where I started learning before I started to actually train.
I first learned karate in elementary school from a book in the library. 4th grade I found a dojo for a dollar a lesson. A few years there and I transitioned to jujitsu. Book knowledge definitely seemed to be a big start
@@garrydobson2626 my dad was a catch wrestler, so in turn taught my brother and I. It's definitely a huge advantage as far as grappling
Dude is black baki lol
Definitely get him out there! Show the people the difference between “normal” beginning fighters and natural born fighters. Totally agree that you can learn from media. And your current understanding dictates how much of that information you’ll retain to then later put into practice.
The main issue with self learning is that you need to be able to be self critical. Most people just straight up cant learn from themselves. I have sparring partners and even then we film to learn. You also cant learn to take a punch from a video which is a serious issue. Guaranteed anybody successful is going to have already done some street fights.
@@InWitheNew Sparring is fine, drilling is way better. I actually had someone on Streetbeefs facebook try to convince me that sparing was this great training method "trust me brah"... Sparing is literally the only thing anyone wants to do and the people with holes in their game just get those things reinforced. Drilling takes discipline and you will master aspects of your game doing it. I'm positive all these people who get in the ring on Streetbeefs and crumble in seconds spar their friends.
I've had more benefit knuckling down alone in my garage and putting in some real work shadowboxing than any session of gym-tag.
Yes, bring him onto your channel! A few questions are: How did he practice what he learned from UA-cam? How often did he practice? Did he have a sparring partner, or did everything on his own?
Seconded
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Excellent questions!
Yes, we need details. What sports has he done?
Surprised he didn't address the sparring partner angle, surely that'd make one hell of a difference.
In my personal experience, no amount of being told how to fight can ever make up for actual fighting experience. Sparring and training are extremely important.
But I can Dave you a lot of time. Easier to pick up advanced technique from an instructor than to figure it out own your own under a hail of fists m
Well ..yeah
@@willroland9811 this is an entirely different argument -Better known as a straw-man argument. You're going on a tangent
There's always that one in a hundred person who can see something and replicate it, I had a friend like that in primary school he'd replicate moves from Bruce Lee movies effortlessly right after watching them. Max Holloway had only learned from the UFC game up until his debut.
You can get the basic anatomical movements down too for stuff like punches. It’s not gonna give you the best punch but you can learn how to throw simple strikes well enough to use them in a fight. Obviously, sparring and constant training will make you much better, but why not combine all 3?
I recommend for anyone who is training alone, record yourself with your phone or a webcam or something. A lot of times when you watch videos of yourself hitting the heavy bag you'll notice a lot of things you're doing wrong. I also recommend training outside where the entire world can see you. This will force you to train harder and more seriously, and it'll help you get used to performing under pressure.
Yes, bring him on. A question to ask him could be: "After watching so many videos what did he decide to focus on and what did decide to discard, and why?"
love that one of my favorite questions cause i too realized in the streets you have to discard a lot doesnt mean you cant use technique like people say but you cant do anything flashy and expect to win unless you are far to skilled over the other person then i guess you can just make them look like a fool but i wouldnt try it as its so easy to catch someone slipping when they try to clown someone
Yes, bring him in. I liked that he was after it when it counted, and still showed restraint in victory. Heart and class.
I think it would be a great idea to bring him to the studio - he looks like he's a natural athlete. I'd like to know how quickly he can learn a new technique then execute it properly.
Just for the fact he calls himself blackie Chan, I already like him.
Lol weebo
@@OSTemli Jackie Chan is chinese brother, not japanese
@@LohJiaHung doesn't mean it's not a weeb name. Chan is both Japanese and chinese
@@P.Subaeruginosa ...but its specifically in reference to a Chinese man
@@UltmtDestroyer doesn't matter, a weeb is someone who is obsessed with Japanese culture, Israel Adesanya is considered a weeb and he likes 2 or 3 anime, most of his references are pop culture like comics and WWE and he's a breakdancer yet "weeb" is what people label him as
He's not only special. The man is a genius! Im so proud of him. Anything he sets his mind to, he accomplishes.
I'd love to have him in the studio at least for an interview. Ask him how, by watching only UA-cam, did he reach that level of prowess. Did he shadow box, spar with a friend, just hit a bag, etc. Drills and such. How did he practice what he saw and what is the most important skills he feels he learned by doing so.
Yes this question
My dad who's now 73 would tell me how he fought in his teenage years. (No videos back in his day). All he had was books which he would tell me he read from and applied what he learned. He would train like he was a professional, as in every day. His "sparring" came in the form of street fighting. He was well known in his neighborhood/s because he would always fight and gained respect by beating his opponents.
The most interesting story for me was when he fought a professional boxer. His friend came up to him once and asked if he could fight someone that had beat him up, my dad said yes and to his surprise it was the boxer. My dad knew the boxer because he was well known around that part of town. I rember my dad told me that he thought to himself "shit what did I get myself into"? But he wasn't going to back down because he already told his friend yes. Well the boxer was beating my dad up, knocking him down left and right, up until my dad told him to let him use kicks since he's a pro. The guy agreed and that's when my dad told me the fight changed, my dad knew how to kick as well and from there the fight lasted an hour or so until the boxer called it off. It was funny cuz my dad told me he had to kick the living shit out of him just to stand a chance at beating him. Anyway. It shouldn't be a surprise to learn how to fight from UA-cam. I think b. Chan has spared before though, if not....damn he's good.
It's his IQ, he knows the little things to create the big things
That's the golden question
I think I can safely speak for everyone here when I say, "hell yes, we want to see Blackie Chan in the studio!"
I'd honestly love to see Blackie Chan's test levels. He's a beast.. You definitely should give him a year's worth of classes
Blackie Chan has already trained with icymike, before this fight with Derek ever took place. Idk why he didn't mention that
Yeah I thought steroids immediately to be honest.
@@mr.doctorcaptain1124 really?
@@Meloncholymadness yes, you can see the footage on icymikes channel. It's been 3 months so I can't remember exactly how far back it was. Maybe 6-12 months ago?
They were definitely misrepresenting things here and I was honestly not a huge fan of that. They didn't lie, it just kind of felt like a lie by omission to me
@@mr.doctorcaptain1124 doesn't surprise me, I've caught Icy Mike lying quite a few times over the years. I watch because the videos are entertaining, but there's a few dodgy things I've noticed. He has short man syndrome too, can tell by the way he talks down to everyone that's bigger than him etc.
I can only imagine the immense pride Mike must feel.
What
Blackie chan needs some striking drills and I feel he'd be an amazing amateur. His ceiling is also very high based on his fight intelligence. So much potential in him
Id say, he is more highly motivated than special. If you're really into something (I mean his health and core fitness are obvious) then you're going to persevere and perfect stuff. Just like the people that go to classes. Some take it seriously, some less so. He trains hard however he does it, and that's his talent.
Definitely bring him on the channel if he’s interested, you/we might even learn something from an instinctual but gifted fighters different style/technique. Keep doin what your doin, much appreciated!
That was an insane performance from someone with no sparring or organized training. He was calm, aggressive, and controlled. He'll be a monster if he gets some formal training and experience.
4:40 I agree with this statement a lot. StreetBeefs is legit for learning how real people fight. Also, YES WE WANT Blackie Chan!
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I love to see you help him tighten up his skills
I agree up to a point. If you can learn your basics from someone. Then you can learn from videos and books. Basics are the foundation of your training.
Get Balckie Chan in? Abso-f***ing-lutely. This was cool. A few years ago, I had 3 fights, won 1, despite people saying that I am skilled and pick up techniques easily. I've struggled with finding the aggression this guy seems to have naturally I would like to know how he prepared his mind and how he overcomes any inhibition towards really wanting to hurt someone.
I wasn't a fighter, but a soldier. Individuals always seem to either find a way to justify it so that it makes sense to them (professionalism for me personally) and use that or they fail at it.
@@sancoribero you can beat someone with out hurting them. heavy full contact sparring is just that beating someone without "beating" them.
Yeah, of course we want Blackie Chan! I want to know his mindset and how he learnt to read the opponents movement without sparing.. Or if he did spare, with who.. Maybe he is just a natural Street Fighter with a lot of reflexes and conditioning, but even this is very interesting, I would watch this anime.
If it goes well you could even do a "youtube to trained fighter" premium course! Bring him in!
Bring on Blackie Chan dats a bad boy name 🤛
The thing is with learning how to fight on your own is you’ll develop habits that are going to be hard to crunch later on when you want proper training. I love karate okay, although Muay Thai has been extremely difficult for me to transition to since my kyokushin background gave me “bad” habits.
I came from a Karate and Taekwondo back ground, and I'll never forget how hard it was for me to learn to do a proper Thai roundhouse with the shin. I was so used to not only connecting with some part of my foot, but also rarely had to "follow through" since in most of those kicks you bring your leg back. It took a lot of practice to get a barely capable ability to kick.
@@chaosapiant same bro I’m a taekwondo black belt and kicking with my shin is a struggle
do 1000 repetitions start super slow and rebuild the neural pathways
Yes you can absolutely learn how to do things on the internet IF you're practicing the techniques correctly and put time into training.
And I can relate, because when I was a kid and parkour became a big thing on youtube, I spent hours watching instructional videos and even more hours going outside to train, and ended up learning how to do things I never thought I could do, but only because I took the time to watch the right people and listen very carefully to what they were saying, and then spent time practicing those things in a safe and gradual way.
If you watch one video about how to do a backflip or how to throw a roundhouse kick and then run outside and try it, operating under the delusion that you've got it figured out, you're going to end up hurting yourself.
Impressive fight. I've spared with my friend who's 6'4" ( I'm 5'8") It's no joke fighting someone with so much of a reach advantage.
I feel that dude lmao
Yeah I’m surprised no ones talking about how the guy is littlest a foot taller then him
I use to do TKD on a high level, and I had some pretty tall guys in my studio, one guy was 6 4, heavily muscled, and frankly, with how long the fuckers legs were, he was flat out impossible for anyone in the 5'0-5'10 range to spar, My friend and I were 5'6 and we would literally try to 2 v 1 him in hard sparring and he would kick our asses without even trying with the 2 of us going all out. The main reason for this, is literally all the dude would have to do is lift up his leg, and we had literally no way to get in unless we tried to grapple his leg. (which we didn't do for it felt like cheating, we did this sparring under a weird modified TKD rules)
but yeah every time the dude would just smoke us, even in a 2 on 1 match. Reach is a fucking bitch, and frankly, the way you beat it is through grappling or attacking the legs, and even then it's still a bitch.
Honestly, a big reason i feel blackie won so one-sidedly, is he is just flat out in better physical condition, he looks like he participates in body building exercises regularly you can see how defined his muscles are, and his endurance to go for quick bursts without gassing out is very impressive. This is clearly a guy who hard core takes care of his fitness while throwing in combat training. You can tell from his movements he is passionate about the sport and loves it, and it wouldn't surprise me if we see him in ufc one day.
If ur opponent is taller than you and you can't close the distance.. think first, use your legs, because ur leg is longer than ur hand, after u hit him with ur leg, then close the distance and hit him with ur fist
totally man, im 5'7ish and my friend is like 5'11, its alot of fun but i gotta time my shots extra careful coz he has hella reach advantage, as well as a bit of boxing experience
Yes, have him come in. Should be fun to see some training, and how that compares to his idea from video alone.
Yes!
This brings up such a great point that many traditional MA schools struggle with: athleticism and a fighter's mind-set goes a long way.
People don't realize that martial arts are just a force multiplier. You're still constrained by what your body is capable of doing. If you're very inflexible and heavy, you're going to be a terrible at tae kwon do. If you're a 95 lb, 5'0" woman, you're not going to be box a heavyweight. You start with your base athleticism, conditioning, and body type, then multiply it by adding skill. Ultimately, you want to build your base fitness, strength, speed, and flexibility when you train. This guy just demonstrated this idea. This guy's clearly stocky, strong, fast, and naturally aggressive at baseline. You can give him basics and let him execute with them and he'll do well because he's already very fit. If you watch what he did, it's just fundamental kickboxing. Good leg kicks, good level changes, good resets to his stance so he's light on his feet, and good head movement for defense. Nothing flashy. No tricks. No black belt stuff.
@@kma3647 I’ve never heard more facts ever.
@@kma3647 true do to my size everyone told me martial arts and kung fu would be better but still heard people saying it was useless yet it works better than even boxing for me and that says something as im a great counter puncher some people are better suited to other things cause hate to admit it but no matter my skill level speed and reaction time even if i dodge every single punch i cant box a heavywieght since even with overtime damage to places that hurt with the gloves on they can just shrug off my blows now if it was bare handed where i can actually fully open up my hands that might be a different story especially if theres no rules and its just a real fight
Traditional MA schools is interchangeable with BJJ/MMA gym in terms of your point. There are plenty of folks training at those schools that would freeze completely in a real conflict
hell yeah bring him in, no matter what you guys do im sure it'll be interesting and fun
I've learned a couple of fighting moves on UA-cam- I would say watching fighting you tubes on pretty effective.
You said it yourself, he's a special dude. Bring him out! Ask him about his athletic background. He might have killer genetics but no one has abs and movement that explosive untrained... the dude goes hard in another sport.
@@shinobi-no-bueno True but he has very defined abs which people who don't train don't have
@@CubedNightShot9777 everyone has defined abs if their bodyfat percentage is low. Having defined Abs doesn’t mean having strong abs. Anyway, this guys has really good genetics, and for sure he works out with weights or bodyweight. Combine that with a really low bodyfat % and good genetics and you have that look.
Yea I'm pretty sure he's good in some other sport. His punches & kicks as Mike said are a bit wild but the power generation is great
Probably a receiver
@@justaghost3285 no, not like that, "poverty abs" that are formed from basically just calorie restriction and no working out, will not jut out like that. look at 8:53 those abs are muscle that has been built to be larger than what you have naturally.
He seems like he has been sparring with his buddies a bit. No way he has ZERO experience. But he is clearly a talented athlete, and thats insane if thats his first fight.
Honestly, you can get a lot of the reaction speed from shadow boxing, honestly after doing both classes and shadow boxing, i can say that shadow boxing and imagining an invisible opponent who is flat out better then me, helped me out more with things like head movement, more then sparring did. Sparring mostly helped me get use to aiming more efficiently and not getting nervous. But everyone is different
@@madmaxiemartialartsnerd485 You need to no what it feels like to get punched in the mouth.Obviously this dude has been in fights before.
For sure he grew up in a rough hood and fought growing up
@@iandixon7641 Never said fighting/sparring isn't important, simply said that shadow boxing helped me out more with learning certain concepts.
Unofficial he’s won numerous fighting to the death Matches
I mean he's really good for a UA-cam trained dude, and clearly quite fit. I think if it was a martial arts fight, there's quite a lot of stuff to be done about efficiency, guard and the like, but if you're not fighting a guy with fight experience it's unlikely they will punish you for it.
I'd like him to know what his prior athletic experience is.
Personally I've found that rock climbing helps immensely with takedowns / takedown defence / clinch grappling. And dance really helps with fast footwork, as well as picking up combos / sequences in class. And then with HEMA giving me a sense of distance management, I found myself doing much better than others with my level of experience in Muay Thai class.
Rock climber here, i am exponentially better at striking lmao I am great at fighting off my back (for someone who has been to 5 jiu jitsu classes) and suck ass at takedowns (even for 3 wrestling classes)
I played basketball and honestly when I started boxing, just with combinations I learned on the internet, I was already taking care of people with 1 to 3 years of training.
Definitely do that, that would be incredible. Congrats to this guy for working hard and pulling out his first win.
Low kicks were on point, hell yeah!
I learned to fight by watching fence painting tutorials on UA-cam.
What about window cleaning?
Karate kid reference lol
Those leg kicks were eating that tall dude up
I spent six years teaching myself how to box from UA-cam before joining a gym and yes I would have learned the basics faster had i started on the gym straight away but everything I learned on my own made me way ahead in body mechanics footwork conditioning and punching power. The only thing I learned from the coaches was how to fight like that coach. The team conditioning workouts, the different bags, and the sparring is the only thing you can't easily replicate on your own. You need to spar if you want to be good enough to defeat someone who does.
That hard check on the leg kick was direct from this channel I’d bet
Defo would like to see him on the channel, he is an absolute mad lad! It would probably mean a lot to him too.
Hell yeah! Bring him in. I would love to know if he's training his technique all alone or if he's sparring with friends to hone it
Dude's got good fight IQ and heart. I think if he trains at a gym regularly he's gonna be phenomenally good.
HELL YESSSS bring this guy in! We need to hear his story and watch him level up.
I like your content I cant believe more people havent subscribed to you, you deserve it from the very interesting catalog ive seen coming from you so far I dont even know if you still upload but i hope so i turnt that bell on
I feel like for the average person who’s trying to get into a martial art can for sure learn some from UA-cam but as said in the video it can be dependent on your current mastery. For me I’m learning basic techniques, basic footwork and fundamentals. But that’s about all I’m comfortable learning right now.
For sure bring the guy out! I’d love to hear everything about the lead up to him fighting in street beefs. How it was to learn from UA-cam etc. Excellent video, Mike! Shout out at the end was awesome
That leg kick that took Derek down made my heart grow 2 sizes.
I love the fact that you take the time to point out his natural abilities, as well as what he needs to work on and what he’s already doing decent. Most people either purely love or purely hate fighters and it’s refreshing to see someone with more in-depth opinions, instant sub
That is so cool man. 🤝🤝💪🏾🤝🤝 god bless you!!
Fuck yes get him on the channel. Long form interview, please. Get his summarised life story leading up to victory. He's an awesome natural fighter! Great video!
5:50 "Leg kicks suck if they aren't conditioned" - this brought me back to when I was a teenager... a friend of mine and I fought each other for fun. We wound up having a leg kicking competition towards the end 😅 I think it just went on until we were both too tired. Kids do the dumbest things 🤘
Before I ever went to a Muay Thai gym or trained I watched southpaw legends, petrosyan , yodsanklai , sanchi being left handed , and learned how to get my lead foot to the outside to use my power hand or body kick, or how to get my head offline , learned to parry a jab, or when they have their guard up use lead hand to pull hand down and land cross , like lomochenko , remember being asked how long I’d been doing it by others, I still watch guys like mma shredded ( Jeff chan ) slowly breakdown a technique and then use in sparring and then try myself in class when sparring
Ive Been watching street beefs on and off for a few years. I remember watching a beef fight and neither had any kind of training and I was kinda cringing but then i thought wait this is a great idea for two people to handle this in a controlled environment, no concrete to fall and hit your head, no friends jumping in if theres blood i believe they stop it. This is really good for ordinary people to get that primal side of themselves out. If anything it may encourage a few to get in shape.
I would love to see a drawing of what an "Inverted Ninja Loop Choke" would look like. 🤣👊💥
Search "flying triangle." I'm pretty sure that qualifies.
I'd love to know if he's done any sparring with people who are also untrained just to practice what he saw on UA-cam and then see you teach him some fundamentals and finally some sparring.
I tried to learn from yt and books for few years before having the financial means to actually train with an instructor. I did learn from the yt and books, but it was a very slow process with me constantly checking if I'm doing something wrong. I was able to learn more from a single year under an instructor and training partners than about 4-5 years training alone. With that said, using yt and books while learning from an instructor helped me learn much faster than my classmates as I was getting more details on learned techniques and also playing around with new techniques they didn't know. So I do think it's possible to learn from yt and books, but it's much better if used more as a supplement to a class.
Definitely Definitely should invite him in. It would be amazing to see what his natural talents could evolve into after some hard classes. Guy is a natural.
7:19 Daaaaang buddy, I lost count how many times I rewind that back . The way that one ankle just collides with the other, well done.
Good ideas.
Give him some proper training. Maybe show us some training and sparring fotage.
I would love to see him after some training with a coach.
I feel that I have learned a lot from H2H, and I find it reassuring to see someone else implementing it! Also, I would love to see a follow up with Blackie Chan.
Hell yeah that was pretty cool and yeah it would be awesome to see him on your show and in the studio working out and training with you guys live that'll be awesome
Definitely bring him in and sharpen his skills.
Excellent point about your current level of knowledge having an affect on how much you may learn from videos. Another thing to consider is knowing what type of learner you are. I do know guys that can watch a video for the first time and perform the technique, no matter how sophisticated, as if they've been doing it for 50 years, I'm not not one of those guys.
Great video, thank you!
Obviously, we want to see more Blackie Chan. Bring him out
Yes! Get Blackie Chan to the studio if you can, give him some lessons, tighten him up, make him a top notch pro! ;)
I'd also like to say that from my perspective, I think that his aggression is what won him a significant percentage of that fight. He instantly had the other dude on the back foot and could play his game because of it.
Definitely get him involved! Would be great to hear about his training, does he have a buddy to train with or solo or what
You're both right & wrong when you say that your ability to learn from videos or other sources is based on your current ability.
While it's true that if you already have some martial arts training, other techniques will become easier to learn from any source, you can start from ground 0 with no experience whatsoever. I know because I did it & a friend of mine did it.
We trained together & while I make no claim to being as skilled as an MMA fighter, what I've learned, which was considerable, has saved me on more than one occasion.
What is required to learn from videos or other sources (mine were primarily books) is an inherent or instinctive understanding of how to hurt people. Not that I'm violent I've just always been interested in fighting & the chess like aspect of it. So blackie chan does not surprise me one bit.
Yes!!! Get him on the channel!!! Love to see him learn in person and would love to see anything else you do on this channel with him!!!
Absolutely bring him on. I want to see the trading video followed by his next street beefs fight
First time watching a video from your channel. Great stuff.
That question you posed to the audience. Why even ask? Just do it. Good publicity for both the channel and Blackie Chan. Would be great to see how he improves after a few in-person session.
Please film his movement in sparring before training (as baseline),
And then compare with his movements at the end of the in-person training week.
You can, your learning skills and who you are watching are going to be the HUUGE difference.
People used to tell me you can't teach yourself whatever, I'd always ask them, who taught the 1st guy?
holy shit, you got a big point here.
Years and generations of refinement
Imagine him against someone in his weight class. It will be interesting to see how good of a grappler he is!. Can't wait to see if he accepts your invitation.
Sir that’s Affirmative!! Gitem in! You’re an awesome teacher, I dig your honesty and humbleness. It’s YOU the content creator’s personalty that keeps the subscribers like ME watching and following you. You definitely deserve the creds. I can tell Blackie Chan had some previous bouts. You can and will enhance arsenal. Kudos to you both.
Bring Blackie Chan on. Ask him for advice for people trying to learn on UA-cam too
I've learned mostly online and through practice on heavy bags, but I don't tell anyone that. No one's noticed that technically haven't taken boxing lessons yet.
I wanna see u fighting him before u train him, just to see how much he picked up from ur videos, and how close he is to surpassing his master
I was actually in this situation, for years I've study martials arts on UA-cam all the way through middle school through high school. I could name all the moves that people performed. It wasn't until recently where I started taking boxing where I learned it was a completely different experience. And my technique and understanding of movements where all wrong.
I wouldn't say its wrong, because even street fighting has its place in fighting. Some street moves will be good against certain styles of fighting. My friend Aj is a street fighter and he is good, even against people who have trained for years in mma, boxing, etc. He is also not a sloppy fighter either. Obviously everyone is different lol
@@ljrandom147 true ive met street fighters who dusted me up way more then a trained fighter i will give them one thing over anything unorthodox techniques can especially work against a trained person cause there not used to off the wall attacks that dont make scientific sense so they might just not know what to do against it only reason i havent lost to one is cause just like them im a quick off the dome thinker who doesnt really need to think about it in all actuality i just do it in the heat of the moment through reaction time and second nature instinct
Hell yea I say bring him on! I train in a gym but I also train at home from UA-cam to so it'll be interesting to hear how he motivated himself to train everyday
I learned how to shoot a bow and arrow on youtube as well as play guitar...for the past few years I've become one of the best rangers in New england...it doesn't matter if you are shown the secrets of doing something well so much as it matters more if your willing to put in the time and energy to get to the point where those secrets are viable and maintainable! Thanks for your work your great and your crew is cool keep sparring brothers
How long has Blackie Chan been "training" from Hard2Hurt videos?
Does he feel that he's ready to take it to the next level? He's clearly talented, but how much of that does he feel he really owes to UA-cam?
Thanks again for all the great content. Yours is one of my favorite channels on this subject.
Don’t pretend like that was his first fight though!
You are the coolest, no nonsense, funniest and most authentic martial arts channel on You Tube. Mike, you're awesome.
Bring him out. He's got serious potential. I watched that fight awhile back and im glad you got to see it.
Yeah bring him out dude, im super interested in how he goes about learning from youtube. Im in a situation where ive had some experience in martial arts (tkd as a kid, small amount of boxing and some bjj), between covid and being sick myself for an extended period of time (not with covid) I havnt been able to get to a gym at all for almost 10months but ive been training solo at home (shadow boxing, footwork drills, I have a bob haha). Ive been bummed about not being able to train properly but my friend came down to my city last weekend, he has blackbelt in tkd and has been consistently training muay thai for 6months. We spared a bit and while his muay thai had clearly improved I wasnt as outskilled as I had been in the past, I felt much more comfortable, stable (movement) and had much better success gauging range. I was very surprised.
TL:DR Havnt been able to go gym, train by self, spar friend who train lots, feel definite improvement, now super curious how Blackie Chan goes about learning from youtube. Bring him out!
Absolutely bring Blackie Chan to the studio. you should ask what tips from UA-cam he found the most useful. what tips he found the most easy to execute and the hardest to execute without a real gym and coach experience.
Heck YES. Bring this man in!
when i took jujitsu we all learned the same moves in class so when we were rolling my class mates knew what i was trying to do so i went on youtube to learn subs and escapes to be more unpredictable .....it was definitly useful .
Love your honousty in saying most people will not learn from nothing watching UA-cam.
That leg kick check was solid!
This video put the biggest smile on my face!! Bring him on too.
Yeap, you must bring him on!!! It is going to be really interesting to know his process...
This is awesome and a testament to Mike’s impactful teaching.
Absolutely bring him to the Club 💪🏻
Great idea 👍🏻
Bring him! Lol. Very awesome. I would definitely like to know how he learned so quickly, and was it actually all just from the channel. Congrats on the fight Blackie!