7 years on and still relevant. I wish I’d seen this before planning my recent 2,000 mile European trip. I had weeks of planning nightmares which I could have easily resolved had I watched this. . Fantastic. Your explanations are clear, concise and perfectly explained.
Thank you so much for explaining Basecamp in a very easy to understand, basic way for us Luddites. In their infinite wisdom before Garmin decided to mothball Mapsource, I knew the program like the back of my hand. I could build a route with the best of them. Being frustrated beyond belief, I never have taken the time to get to know and learn Basecamp. Thanks again, Twisty roads, Good Cheer and Happy New Year to you!
I cannot thank you enough for these tutorials, and wish to compliment you on your delivery on the most straight forward, easiest tuition I've found concerning Basecamp. I have just got back from a 60 day trip, successfully navigating 6,350 miles around Europe, creating new routes every evening for the following day's ride. Sure, there were a few niggles (e.g. the route diving off down small side roads into villages instead of continuing the plotted route, only to re-emerge a short distance further along onto the same road) but I learned to zoom out on my Garmin at the hint of this happening and then simply ignored that direction and so the route continued. This happened in spite of me closely double checking the route so assume this must be a glitch when transferring from Basecamp to the unit. And yes, this is in spite of me setting both up to mirror each other in terms of avoidances, preferences etc. Of course, if you had a solution for this, it would be great! Many thanks again, you have made Basecamp a pleasure to use :)
Thank you for the comment. Basecamp imo all these years on is still the best way of mapping. It was years ahead of its time which is why it felt some complex but it's nice to see people still using it to it's potential. Stay safe and happy riding 💨
Like many for months I was struggling with Bascamp and therefore my BMW Nav routing until I found your channel and tutorials and having watched your simple instructions am now happy with my routes within the Uk and have got some great fully sorted routes for a forthcoming biking trip to France! Thankyou 1983lparker
Thank you for your outstanding videos using Basecamp! You’ve simplified BaseCamp like no other. I’ve fought with Basecamp off and on for years. Well done.
A great help, an excellent demonstration & explanation. Has made completely clear why I was having problems and how to do it properly. Thank you for a great job.
Excellent explanation of inserting shaping points. Thank you. I do have one question. In my basecamp setup, when I add a waypoint when creating a route, the default symbol is a black dot which is sequentially numbered. This makes it easier to drops points on a route as if adding shaping points. I have friends who go to add these points and they come up as flags with the road name on it. Do you know how to adjust the default waypoint emblem and how to change it from a numbered point to a named point? Thanks again.
Excellent video, Thanks... Need your experience... I use Basecamp to create routes and then transfer the route to Zumo XT. On Shaping points; If I "remove the alerts" from the shaping points (but keeping the quite shaping point in the route) on Basecamp and transfer the route to XT does that create a problem on my XT route? For instance... Will XT recalculate the route ignoring the quiet shaping points? Do you know? Issue: Shaping point alerts are annoying when you don't need them alerting you almost constantly. Thanks
No, if you select remove shaping points on transfer from the settings tab then all the shaping points will still be used to calculate a route but the only ones shown on the zumo would be alerting ones which you probably would have been named as something by you anyway. I always transfer 2 routes, one Inc shaping points and one without. I ride the route without the points but if I accidentally delete the route I have a spare on file to load up.
@@1983lparker Thanks for the quick response. I don't remove the points from the transfer. I just chose to "NOT ALERT". The points remain in the transfer I just don't wish to hear them.🤣 I just hope it keeps the route in tact.
@@GMCRiders any non alerting points will still be used by zumo to calculate a route. They show on your map but don't bleep at you. A stage further is to remove from transfer and then you don't even see them on the zumo screen . Still uses them on the zumo for calculation purposes
@@1983lparker Thank you. I will try it on my next ride. Every time the shaping points alert it blocks my Packtalk Com. Its so annoying. This will help a lot. Take care.
@@1983lparker Yesterday we did a 180 mile ride where I had silenced all 38 shaping points. Only 3 Waypoints left alone on the route and the XT followed the route flawlessly. It was such a nice quiet ride listening to my music and not hearing all the unnecessary alerts. Thank you for your post. Much appreciated.
Good Day Parker - First off you are incredible at teaching this = very patient and very understandable. So I'm having a novice issue I'm sure. Brand new at basecamp and motorcycling in general. I've got the Zumo 395lm. So i've watched your mapping videos and when i created a route in basecamp and named it "NEW MAP" when i right click transfer to device to my ZUMO when i eject my zumo and it asks to import file its asking me to import like 27 points its not recognizing the one file name that i named it for some reason - I'm doing something wrong apparently. So when i import all 27 points - -which dosent seem right because I've made way more than just 27 points - when i go to click on one of the points it only imports one point for me to navigate that one point not the entire route ??? Please help - I hope i've made sense.
Great vid m8 really explained lots of issues a friend and I have with creating motorcycles routes for our bmw navigators! Silly question though, what is the difference between a shaping point and a way point and how do I create and use the shaping points? Thanks in advance.
Depends of you have the navigator 5 or 6. The one that is a zumo 660 replica won't accept shaping points. Shaping points are points to manipulate a route into going the direction you wish it to and they aren't on your screen like a waypoint flag would be unless you want them too. Waypoints are points of interest in basic terms and stay embedded into basecamp and the zumo until a user deletes them whereas shaping points are only embedded into the route your on.
Yes another great video, I have been planing European trips for over 30 years now and have done all the mistakes and more that you mention :-), it is clear that the attention to detail and looking at every shaping point is critical. I see that you split your trip into daily routes as I have always done but I have seen people do one huge route and then using the "divide" function to split it into smaller chunks, probably a waste of time but what do you think ? Thanks for the info anyway its a big help as I'm going to Scotland in July and Corsica again next year.
Hi John, yes the way you do it wether it be day to day or one long trip and use the split function is the same. The reason i dont do the long route all in one go is because most people do a round trip route, therefore putting an start and an end point in the same location would work and you would then set about starting to add shaping points from the start point until you get to the end point, it works BUT as the route gets longer the more basecamp has to calculate so depending on your computer the slower it gets in doing those calculations. I prefer to do day to day routes as the route is shorter, you can zoom in more on the screen for that day, any changes you make are calculated quickly within basecamp and most importantly for me is that the DAY mileage is displayed at the bottom of the screen so i know what mileage im planning as im going along without having to split the route to find out. Happy planning!
Tried to use Basecamp and Zumo thinking it can't be that difficult and spent the weekend getting lost in West Sussex and wishing I had saved the money I spent on the Zumo and bought a waterproof box for my iPhone. Watched your videos and tried again. Do you train people to use software tools or are you a teacher? You made the whole thing simple and easy to understand. Thanks for taking the time to make and post, you did a great job.
John Corris neither, I did quite a bit of phone work with garmin tech when they released the newer units as they weren't easy to program but I'm just one bloke that managed to master it and thought it may help others out if I videoed what I'd learnt. Hope it helped you!
Silly question time! I’ve loads of pretty good routes on Basecamp that I prepared before I watched your brill tutorials, can I go back into them and add shaping points to fully sort them for future use? Thanks in advance - Gary S
Yes of course, just click the add point tool from the top bar and hover over the roads you want to add points to, it will show you a straight line, if it's a short line of a mile or so it should be fine already, if the line is very long then left click and add as many points as you wish.
@@1983lparker Thankyou so much - I keep dropping back to your vids from time to time just to bull up on my technique. They have made it so much easier to get top notch biking routes. Just preparing a weeks worth down to the Tarn Gorge - Millau area of France this June. Thanks again!
Good vids mate, I'm pretty happy with it but I always like seeing if others do owt different 👍, sound like you're only down the road from me ...Stoke ?
7 years on and still relevant. I wish I’d seen this before planning my recent 2,000 mile European trip. I had weeks of planning nightmares which I could have easily resolved had I watched this. . Fantastic. Your explanations are clear, concise and perfectly explained.
Most concise and easiest to follow tutorial I’ve seen on this. Thank you.
Thank you so much for explaining Basecamp in a very easy to understand, basic way for us Luddites. In their infinite wisdom before Garmin decided to mothball Mapsource, I knew the program like the back of my hand. I could build a route with the best of them. Being frustrated beyond belief, I never have taken the time to get to know and learn Basecamp. Thanks again, Twisty roads, Good Cheer and Happy New Year to you!
I cannot thank you enough for these tutorials, and wish to compliment you on your delivery on the most straight forward, easiest tuition I've found concerning Basecamp.
I have just got back from a 60 day trip, successfully navigating 6,350 miles around Europe, creating new routes every evening for the following day's ride. Sure, there were a few niggles (e.g. the route diving off down small side roads into villages instead of continuing the plotted route, only to re-emerge a short distance further along onto the same road) but I learned to zoom out on my Garmin at the hint of this happening and then simply ignored that direction and so the route continued. This happened in spite of me closely double checking the route so assume this must be a glitch when transferring from Basecamp to the unit. And yes, this is in spite of me setting both up to mirror each other in terms of avoidances, preferences etc. Of course, if you had a solution for this, it would be great!
Many thanks again, you have made Basecamp a pleasure to use :)
Thank you for the comment. Basecamp imo all these years on is still the best way of mapping. It was years ahead of its time which is why it felt some complex but it's nice to see people still using it to it's potential. Stay safe and happy riding 💨
Like many for months I was struggling with Bascamp and therefore my BMW Nav routing until I found your channel and tutorials and having watched your simple instructions am now happy with my routes within the Uk and have got some great fully sorted routes for a forthcoming biking trip to France! Thankyou 1983lparker
No worries. Glad it's helped, keep planning and keep riding 👍 👌
Thank you for your outstanding videos using Basecamp! You’ve simplified BaseCamp like no other. I’ve fought with Basecamp off and on for years. Well done.
Glad it's helped, stick with it and you'll not look back. Thanks for the comment 👍
A great help, an excellent demonstration & explanation. Has made completely clear why I was having problems and how to do it properly. Thank you for a great job.
Ian Powell glad these are still helping folk plan trips !
What a great video, simple explanations that solved a big problem I had, made easy, and saving a lot of time planning of routes, simple, thanks.
Thanks , hope it's helped, scary that I'm actually on Basecamp now and seem to live on it planning routes!
Another excellent demonstration. Well done 1983lparker.
Thanks for the video! The Garmin Basecamp engeneers/developers should be fired!
Very good information thank you
No problem, keep the wheels turnin 🤘
Excellent explanation of inserting shaping points. Thank you. I do have one question. In my basecamp setup, when I add a waypoint when creating a route, the default symbol is a black dot which is sequentially numbered. This makes it easier to drops points on a route as if adding shaping points. I have friends who go to add these points and they come up as flags with the road name on it. Do you know how to adjust the default waypoint emblem and how to change it from a numbered point to a named point? Thanks again.
I have that question as well.
Excellent video, Thanks... Need your experience... I use Basecamp to create routes and then transfer the route to Zumo XT. On Shaping points; If I "remove the alerts" from the shaping points (but keeping the quite shaping point in the route) on Basecamp and transfer the route to XT does that create a problem on my XT route? For instance... Will XT recalculate the route ignoring the quiet shaping points? Do you know?
Issue: Shaping point alerts are annoying when you don't need them alerting you almost constantly. Thanks
No, if you select remove shaping points on transfer from the settings tab then all the shaping points will still be used to calculate a route but the only ones shown on the zumo would be alerting ones which you probably would have been named as something by you anyway.
I always transfer 2 routes, one Inc shaping points and one without.
I ride the route without the points but if I accidentally delete the route I have a spare on file to load up.
@@1983lparker Thanks for the quick response. I don't remove the points from the transfer. I just chose to "NOT ALERT". The points remain in the transfer I just don't wish to hear them.🤣 I just hope it keeps the route in tact.
@@GMCRiders any non alerting points will still be used by zumo to calculate a route. They show on your map but don't bleep at you.
A stage further is to remove from transfer and then you don't even see them on the zumo screen . Still uses them on the zumo for calculation purposes
@@1983lparker Thank you. I will try it on my next ride. Every time the shaping points alert it blocks my Packtalk Com. Its so annoying. This will help a lot. Take care.
@@1983lparker Yesterday we did a 180 mile ride where I had silenced all 38 shaping points. Only 3 Waypoints left alone on the route and the XT followed the route flawlessly. It was such a nice quiet ride listening to my music and not hearing all the unnecessary alerts. Thank you for your post. Much appreciated.
Extremely helpful!
Best tutorial on YT cheers
Flatcap007 thank you and im glad they are helping you out a bit
Good Day Parker - First off you are incredible at teaching this = very patient and very understandable. So I'm having a novice issue I'm sure. Brand new at basecamp and motorcycling in general. I've got the Zumo 395lm. So i've watched your mapping videos and when i created a route in basecamp and named it "NEW MAP" when i right click transfer to device to my ZUMO when i eject my zumo and it asks to import file its asking me to import like 27 points its not recognizing the one file name that i named it for some reason - I'm doing something wrong apparently. So when i import all 27 points - -which dosent seem right because I've made way more than just 27 points - when i go to click on one of the points it only imports one point for me to navigate that one point not the entire route ??? Please help - I hope i've made sense.
sounds like you are making way points not shaping points
Thanks for the help. How do you put in the alerts?? Thanks in advance.
You can double click on the shaping point within the dialog box. My other videos explain how to do things in more detail.
No worries, thanks for that.
Great vid m8 really explained lots of issues a friend and I have with creating motorcycles routes for our bmw navigators! Silly question though, what is the difference between a shaping point and a way point and how do I create and use the shaping points? Thanks in advance.
Depends of you have the navigator 5 or 6. The one that is a zumo 660 replica won't accept shaping points.
Shaping points are points to manipulate a route into going the direction you wish it to and they aren't on your screen like a waypoint flag would be unless you want them too. Waypoints are points of interest in basic terms and stay embedded into basecamp and the zumo until a user deletes them whereas shaping points are only embedded into the route your on.
Yes another great video, I have been planing European trips for over 30 years now and have done all the mistakes and more that you mention :-), it is clear that the attention to detail and looking at every shaping point is critical. I see that you split your trip into daily routes as I have always done but I have seen people do one huge route and then using the "divide" function to split it into smaller chunks, probably a waste of time but what do you think ? Thanks for the info anyway its a big help as I'm going to Scotland in July and Corsica again next year.
Hi John, yes the way you do it wether it be day to day or one long trip and use the split function is the same. The reason i dont do the long route all in one go is because most people do a round trip route, therefore putting an start and an end point in the same location would work and you would then set about starting to add shaping points from the start point until you get to the end point, it works BUT as the route gets longer the more basecamp has to calculate so depending on your computer the slower it gets in doing those calculations. I prefer to do day to day routes as the route is shorter, you can zoom in more on the screen for that day, any changes you make are calculated quickly within basecamp and most importantly for me is that the DAY mileage is displayed at the bottom of the screen so i know what mileage im planning as im going along without having to split the route to find out. Happy planning!
That makes sense and sounds the way to go, thanks for taking the time to explain. Very much appreciated.
Tried to use Basecamp and Zumo thinking it can't be that difficult and spent the weekend getting lost in West Sussex and wishing I had saved the money I spent on the Zumo and bought a waterproof box for my iPhone.
Watched your videos and tried again. Do you train people to use software tools or are you a teacher? You made the whole thing simple and easy to understand. Thanks for taking the time to make and post, you did a great job.
John Corris neither, I did quite a bit of phone work with garmin tech when they released the newer units as they weren't easy to program but I'm just one bloke that managed to master it and thought it may help others out if I videoed what I'd learnt. Hope it helped you!
Silly question time! I’ve loads of pretty good routes on Basecamp that I prepared before I watched your brill tutorials, can I go back into them and add shaping points to fully sort them for future use? Thanks in advance - Gary S
Yes of course, just click the add point tool from the top bar and hover over the roads you want to add points to, it will show you a straight line, if it's a short line of a mile or so it should be fine already, if the line is very long then left click and add as many points as you wish.
@@1983lparker Thankyou so much - I keep dropping back to your vids from time to time just to bull up on my technique. They have made it so much easier to get top notch biking routes. Just preparing a weeks worth down to the Tarn Gorge - Millau area of France this June. Thanks again!
@@garysetch lovely place to tour around. We are passing over Millau 2nd week june enroute to the Pyrenees. Enjoy 👍
Good vids mate, I'm pretty happy with it but I always like seeing if others do owt different 👍, sound like you're only down the road from me ...Stoke ?
NomadBiker cheers, they were just some videos I put together to try and help folk learn it. Yeah not far away in Derby👍
google my maps looks way easier to use
It may well be, I'm not sure but Basecamp is for Garmin and it works.