Navigate a Google Maps route on a Garmin Device for Mac
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- Опубліковано 19 лип 2024
- In this video I show you how to navigate a route that you have created in #Google #Maps on a #Garmin device using the #Mac version of Garmin #BaseCamp.
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Time Stamps:
0:00 Introduction
1:15 Creating a route in Google Maps
4:50 Exporting the Google Maps Route to KML/KMZ
6:00 Launching Garmin BaseCamp
6:40 How to view the BaseCamp Detailed Map
7:45 How to install the detailed map to BaseCamp
8:52 Organising the filing system
9:14 Importing the route from Google Maps
10:14 Terminology, Tracks vs Routes
10:42 Creating a route from the imported track
12:29 Garmin Route Point Extensions
13:31 Issues with recalculating
14:43 Exporting the route to the Garmin Device
15:08 Importing the route on the Garmin Device
16:09 Driving the route in the real world
18:00 Fixing the route by adding more via points
20:52 Checking and updating via points
22:10 Changing via points to non-alerting
23:12 Exporting the refined route to the Garmin Device
24:50 Driving the refined route in the real world
26:10 Plotting a more complex route
34:18 Summary
Thanks Joseph. A useful summary. I’d be interested to hear your opinion of Garmin’s recent change of recommended method using Explore instead of Basecamp. I’m using a MacBook, iPhone and Garmin XT. The instructions from Garmin are confusing and obscure but I’ve devised a working method, albeit rather involved! From your KML/KMZ file import point: import into Garmin Explore rather than Basecamp, and the route appears automatically in the XT app “Explore”. This relies on having your Garmin account set up with Explore, XT and the Garmin Drive app on the iPhone. It still all seems rather clumsy though… I’d appreciate your views as a more experienced chap than me! Cheers
Aaaand I'm on speaking terms with my previously useless Garmin...they don't make it easy, do they. Now I can actually plan complicated motorcycle routes quickly. Dude, this is magic.
Anytime. Thanks for the feedback. Once you learn the quirks you can get great results but until then you are stumbling around in the dark.
Another very useful video. This software is unnecessarily complex and could do with a goof UX review but your explanations are gold dust. Thanks again.
Thanks for the feedback. Best wishes.
Basecamp, easy innit! Realy detailed video, thanks! The developers really need to engage with you before they publish anything to the wider world!
As for your comments about biking roads in Essex, as a denizen of North Wales, I obviously disagree! Learnt a lot here, thanks again.
Anytime Gary. Thanks for the feedback. There are some great roads in North Wales. It's a bit of a trek from London though and your police are fierce.
Excellent, thank you, I was just about to take a sledgehammer to my PC and Garmin in frustration! Not sure if I will remember it all next time though.
Ha we have all been there. I forget things all the time and have to reference my own videos.
Nice work! I tried this method on my iMac and it works exactly as demonstrated. I thought to use this method on my iPad Pro but found the ‘cross hairs’ cursor is not available. This makes road/route selection a real chore. Great powers of patience are required. Have you any experience of using an iPad in this application? I haven’t found any way of configuring the iPad My Maps app. The portability offered is the obvious attraction. Basecamp remains an indispensable tool to deliver the finished route to my Navigator 6 device.
Thanks for the quick reply. I am playing with the conversion and see after converting to route that all the turns and roundabouts are actually via points now without doing anything other than convert to route. In essence I think it’s what I need. I cannot do a simulation as I returned my garmin to Curry’s yesterday as it has started to jitter. Fortunately still in warranty . Great vids btw.
Thank you very much - about to do another trial!! Is there some way to add actual waypoints (ie PIO already known in Google/Garmin maps) easily. Or do we have to add them as actual "Alerting" waypoints?
To do this on a Mac first you need to copy the waypoints or points of interest into the same Basecamp list as your route. Next double click on you route to open the list of via points. Next drag and drop the waypoints you want in your route from the list in the navigator into the route list of waypoints. Drag the waypoints you've added to the correct position in the route order. Imported waypoints (and POIs) are created as alerting via points by default. To change them to non-alerting via points, right click on them in the list of via points and click Do not alert. Then you should be all set. If you can't get this to work contact me through the about section of my channel and we can look at it on a video call.
@@JosephByrne Thank you - I think I had been overwhelmed trying to set up a route, and forgot the simple "copy" & "paste" !! But still have a query for you on dragging route back where I want it - and will email you with some details. MANY THANKS.
You gave me more insight in the working of the garmin stuff. I am new in the Garmin world.... It is quite complicated.
Only thing is Garmin express does no longer have support from Garmin, the software cannot be installed anymore on Mac. Garmin Connect IQ is the new thing. But I am not sure whether this does the same... Maybe you have a new way to get another map on garmin.
Oh I'll check it out and see if I can make a video.
Hi mate , I’m in japan is there a way to DL a map for japan on my garmen as for some reason garmen doesn’t make one available .
My Mac crashes on one of the routes. Did you find solution? Maybe it was in the video and I missed it.
Though it happens in Motorcycling, same route in Driving is fine. I might just leave there as avoidances are same and also same calculation mode.
Just annoying when it happens
Hi I have recently bought a garment 780 And currently playing around with importing maps to base camp . If I convert a track to a route and open it up I see each via as a turn left , enter roundabout exit at 4th junction etc. this seems like what I am watching has been fixed and wonder if you know if that is the case. I am using basecamp 4.7.4. With map city navigator Europe 2023. I am concerned because I pull a heavy caravan and don’t want to fall foul of losing my route should I go off track. Best regards
If you convert a track to a route it will create a navigable route. But the route is based on Garmin Route Point extensions not via points. If for any reason the device recalculates the route while you are driving it, all the Garmin Route Point extension data is discarded and it simply creates a route from the current location to the final via point. The way to check it is to enable GPS simulator on your device and execute the route, then force it to re-calculate. On most devices you can do this by using the *Detour* function. That gives you options like, "Avoid the next road." If you click detour, the route will recalculate. If the new route is simply a direct route from your current location to your destination then you know the route is based on route point extensions and not via points. There are two solutions to this, the first one is simply to disable recalculation on the device. This means if you drive off the route it won't recalculate so it will always keep the route, but, it will also give you no help to get back onto the route if you drive off it, for example if you miss your exit on the motorway. The second and more reliable method is to add via points to the route when you import it as described here 17:46.
Hi Joseph,
Just wondering if you have ever discovered a way to create a route on Via Michelin (I love the maps for touring) and export to Garmin?
I've not looked yet but I'll see if there are any options.
@@JosephByrne much appreciate that! Base Camp along with Google & Apple maps don’t have the traditional look of a Michelin map, when planning a touring trip!
You say that if you deviate from a route while executing it, the GPS will recalculate the remaining via points based on the BaseCamp settings when the route was initially created. Won't it recalculate based on the navigation settings presently set in the GPS?
When you transfer a route to the device from BaseCamp, the activity profile you use is transferred with the route. So if you plotted the route using driving activity profile, when you come to navigate the route on the device it will use the car transportation mode. If you plotted using the motorcycling activity profile in basecamp then the route will use the motorcycling transportation mode on the device. The route avoidances for each activity profile are not transferred to the device. These are taken from the transportation mode settings on the device. That's why it's important to align the activity profile and transportation mode settings between BaseCamp and on the device.
@@JosephByrne Interesting. So, preferences like Curvy Roads, Fastest Route don't convey, but are set by the GPS unit's current setting? What is going on within the GPS when it is "Importing" the route from the GPX file and when loading just prior to execution within Trip Planner?"
@@mddale Calculation mode is carried but things like route avoidance are not. If you pause and look closely at the code in 13:19 you can see the route calculation mode towards the top. If you select a calculation mode that your device doesn't support then it just uses the default, usually fastest time. When you import the route and it processes the device is taking the viewpoints and settings and interpreting them. The device has a different algorythm (and sometimes map) to the computer so it has to figure out it out for itself before it presents you with a navigable route.
Hi, Joby. I'm attempting to transfer a route created on MyMaps to my Zumo. I'm using a PC, and am stuck where I need to add via points to the track in order to avoid losing the route in the event of a recalculation. There's no BaseCamp menu on the PC version, and I can't see a Preferences item anywhere; the closest I've got is Edit>Options>General>Device Transfer, but that doesn't contain the Track Conversion option you mention. Incidentally, my track contains 10,555 lines! Can you assist, please?
Oh - and are Waypoints the same as Via points?
Yeah sure so once you've imported the KMZ file into Basecamp it'll create your track with 10,555 points. Make sure your device is plugged in to display the detailed map, (or that you've installed the detailed map to your computer. Next go to *View --> Toolbars --> Activity Profiles.* This will display a dropdown tool bar with a list of the activity profiles. From the drop down list change the activity profile to *Direct.* Next double click on the track you imported from the KML file and click *Create Route.* A dialogue box will appear saying "Enter the maximum number of via points to create while converting the track to a route." Figure out how long your route is in miles and divide that number by 2 and put the value you come up with as the number of via points. So if the route is 100 miles long put 50 here. Click *Ok.* Basecamp will create a route from the track with the number of via points you specified. The route details window should be open now, if it's not then double click the route that was just created. Within the route details there is a drop down for the activity profile, it's currently set to *Direct.* Change it from *Direct* to *Driving.* The route will recalculate to a driveable route. Next a bit of housekeeping. Within the route details select the second via point on the list, now scroll down to the bottom and hold down shift and select the second last via point on the list. Now right and choose *Don't alert on arrival (shaping point).* This will stop all the points from announcing on the device which is annoying. If you don't see the option for *Don't alert on arrival (shaping point)* then the route doesn't have any alerting via points so you are all set. Click X to close out of the route details then right click on the route *Send to* and choose your device from the list. Once the route is transferred, power up the device, it should prompt you to import the route, if it doesn't go to *Apps --> Trip Planner --> Three Bar menu --> Import.* When the route is imported if you want to test it without going out on the bike go to *Settings --> Navigation --> GPS Simulator.* Then go back to *Apps --> Trip Planner --> Select your trip --> Go --> Select the first via point in the list.* Now you can sit back and watch the route navigate from the comfort of your own home. To check the route click on the top of the screen and click *map.* You'll see the route display on a map and all the non alerting via points will appear as grey dots, if you have any alerting via points they'll appear as orange flags. Teh start point will be a green flag and the end point will be a chequered flag. To navigate the route on the bike just do the same but don't enable GPS simulator.
@@JosephByrne Wow - that's amazing; thank you so much! I haven't followed all the steps yet, but it looks really clear. I can't help feeling that Garmin could have done a better job of designing the interface for this though, if they'd tried a bit harder!
@@JosephByrne Almost done. My last hurdle is checking that none of my 185(!) shaping points are close to junctions - but I can't get them to select and move. You illustrate this in another video; is it a Mac vs PC thing?
@@triplem9805 Yes, it's different on a PC. Go to *View --> Toolbars --> Edit Features.* This displays the edit features tool bar. (Although these can also be seen under the tools menu). On the Edit tools tool bar select *Move point* (Or you can also press the *M* key). Move the pointer close to the point you want to move. It'll turn from a small black dot to a large black dot. When it does this hold down the left mouse button and drag it to where you want it to be then release. The point will move and the route will recalculate.
@@JosephByrne That's working, although the recalcs take ages for each point I move. I can't thank you enough... just hope I remember all this Byzantine complexity next time I need to plan a route!
I have a Zumo XT, Garmin doesn’t allow you to download the maps from it anymore... And Garmin Express doesn’t work either. Express sees the device, and knows it up to date, etc. But it cannot download the maps off the device either.
Express will let me download the maps to the device again (or move them to the external SD card), but I cannot download to the computer. So I can’t see them in Basecamp.
That's strange. Maybe they've changed it again. So long as you have your device plugged into the computer you should see the detailed map in Basecamp. On Mac computers Garmin Express and Garmin BaseCamp don't work well at the same time so shut down Garmin Express and then load up BaseCamp with your device still connected and you should see all of the maps on it.
@@JosephByrne yes, cannot run both at the same time. But even just running express it will not allow download the maps. If I just run basecamp it sees that I have the city navigator north america and when it finishes downloading it crashes. So I cannot get Basecamp to work no matter what.
I honestly think it is the Zumo XT device. I don't think they have updated the Express software to fully support it. If I use the built in updater on the Zumo XT over wifi express thinks the files are all missing. Once I wipe the files and install from Express then the Zumo XT thinks the files are out of date. Seems like a conflict.
@@jasonshortphd Maybe you have a faulty XT? They are really good with warranties so sent it back and see if the replacement is any better. Or see if you can try it on another computer. Sometimes there is a hardware conflict that can't be resolved.
@@JosephByrne I will try another machine, good idea. I think I have an old PC around here, maybe the PC version is more stable.
@@jasonshortphd The PC version is a lot less temperamental than the Mac version. The Mac version crashes consistently when requested to do certain tasks. It even crashed on my live stream. I've not had such issues with the PC version.
ffs! I'd need a phd in rocket science!
It seems like it but all you really need to do is convert the imported track to a route using the direct profile and specify 20 via points then change the profile to driving and check the via points. Once you know it takes about 5 minutes. I had to explain it all or no one would believe it was necessary.