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I'm assuming having enough lipids allows elasticity to apply while maintaining the mass on your body/arms as your body swings to hit the object or throw. There is a way to maintain both weight, elasticity, and uh balance/ clumsyness. Hard to balance, even with expects.
he was skinny for a short time late in his career, and it was probably his worst season, I knew that weight distribution thing was real because of it. glad he's healthier in retirement, though.
In short: If you're heavy, you hit the ball harder, which is kinda the most important thing with baseball these days. If you're heavy, you suffer fewer arm injuries because you pitch with your mass, not your arm. As pointed out in some other comments, some of these numbers are misleading because they look at weight rather than the way the weight is carried. Jumbo Diaz and Aaron Judge should not fall into the same category.
He ignores fat vs muscle, doesn't factor for height at all, and even misrepresented weights on his hitter lists. For example he has Miggy at 267 which was his 2023 weight when his 2013 Topps Card lists him at 240. He also had trout listed at the same weight for every season on there. And counted Ohtani as overweight
@@ayarzeev8237 in the top OPS+ seasons earlier in the video, he lists 267 next to his 2013 OPS falsely increasing the correlation between weight and performance
BMI is a terrible measurement for tall, muscular athletes. By those standards, Arnold Schwarzenegger classified as obese when he was literally Mr. Universe.
@@chonchjohnchI’m hardly hittin overweight with abs, unless you’re muscular as an ox you’re not gonna be too muscular for bmi it works for 99%+ of people
Bartolo truly lives the American dream. Immigrated here like our forefathers, loves Mcdonald’s and Taco Bell, and made a living off of America’s past time😂😂😂 True American hero at work
@@ChangeDaWorld-c9b Spell immigrate properly. Also, you don't immigrate to a country that doesn't exist before you get there. The (original) legacy of the US is not immigration, that came later. "Hope this helps
@@MeanBeanComedy To be fair some of them were born elsewhere and did, in fact, immigrate here such as Alexander Hamilton, James Wilson, & Francis Lewis just to name a few.
I've never thought about the existence of an underground cheesesteak eating contest, but now that I know it is out there, there's nothing I want to be a part of more.
To be fair, most of the “overweight” players are not actually overweight, they just are big guys with lots of muscle mass, look at Kris Bryant or Bryce Harper who were listed as “overweight” its pretty clear theyre not actually overweight, just shredded and 6’3-6’5
Basically weight is weight. Your body is not designed to deal with it whether its all muscle or all fat. Muscle being denser and the actions you take to gain it tend to be healthier then just being a blob but your still going to run into problems from the added wear and tear.
@@willnyc377they probably did, but honestly that exact statement could be made in an admirable, positive way depending on intention, tone and context. It’s not inherently insulting and could believably be affectionate…but considering it was 2000 I’m gonna assume it wasn’t. Fuckin brutal though.
This is just evidence of how bad BMI is as a metric. Because while there are exceptions of "overweight" players that play well despite not having an athletic body type, a big reason for why so many of the best players are getting heavier is because it is more common for them to build much more muscle. And guys like Mookie Betts and Jose Altuve aren't lighter because they're more fit, they're just limited by height.
The big problem with BMI is that the number itself is meaningless without context, and because of its nature, the context that's provided is super generalized. The "healthy" BMI range is based upon the "average" person, but the nature of humans is that we aren't average, we all have unique quirks that require much more relative metrics. Someone that has a larger overall build might not actually be healthy by getting their weight into the healthy range. On the flip side someone that has a low percentage fat composition can be considered obese if they build enough bulk, but the nature of getting to that level of fitness means having to be the most healthy you can be. So at the end of the day the only thing that BMI alone is good for is comparing your weight to people of a similar height. It takes other metrics to understand whether a person's weight is a problem or not (or in this case to compare whether baseball players are better because they're fatter or have just bulked up more)
For the record, Ichiro would deliberately start the season about 20 lbs over his ideal weight because he'd lose it all, and then some, over the course of the season. He explained that it's the exact reason why his April and May numbers were the worst throughout the season. My point is whether you're big or small, I believe productivity has more to do with a balance between consistency and adaptation. Bartolo remained consistent with his diet and was able to successfully adapt to the changes in his body while Pablo couldn't. It also takes a toll psychologically when you have to start being cautious of something you never had to think twice about before.
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Yeah, the biggest reason baseball players are heavier than ever is because they are more muscular than ever. People don’t realize that weight training was not a widespread practice in MLB circles until the 1990s, and that practice is not going away any time soon.
@@MisterVicky9 They're using BMI so anyone who's built is gonna count as overweight...I hope to god that paper he's mentioning doesnt also use BMI as its criteria for overweight
I have never played baseball, but I was a fat kid and played cricket growing up. I was one of the fastest bowlers (cricket pitchers) in the school and was able to throw fast balls with a fraction the run up of my teammates.
I one time was in alcohol rehab with a pro ball player and as a big baseball fan I would chat with him and he told that the Seattle mariners set his ass there because his bottle of liquor per day habit was keeping him fat, and that was the primary reason they wanted him to give it up
@@holstorrsceadus1990 BMI is body mass not body fat. in general if it fat or muscle you can still be over weight , look at body builders who are like 5 ft 9 and 250 lbs who are 5% body fat ... they still are considered over weight.
He should look at BMI. But still, the physics make sense. In positions of leverage (ie hitting and pitching) extra weight / more mass helps generate power. In positions of running/speed/agility (eg fielding, running bases) it will work against you, slow you down.
@@kevinbeazy Look at strongman physiques, strength is directly correlated with weight, putting up 100 pounds of muscle is just not sustainable so getting "out of shape" while keeping your strength training and conditioning will probably catapult your strength.
Stopped watching baseball for years - but I gotta say that this channel has gotten me back to watching & keeping up with the games! Thank you for this dope content
Same here I stopped watching after Strasburg got Tommy John's (and I personally didn't liked how they were babying him and still ended up having to do the surgery) found this channel during the off-season last year and he rekindled my passion for baseball so much I went to the cages swinging as if I was about to sign a contract but i still forgot to tune in to this season 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I LOVE baseball because the health grind obsession and body shaming doesn't apply. As John Kruk said in Sports Illustrated like 30yrs ago when interviewer tried to shame him for his unhealthy habits as an athlete, and he repsonded "i ain't no athlete, I'm a baseball player." He had a monster season.
While it doesn't account for the players who lost weight and then sucked, it should be noted that the disproportionately good stats from heavy players could be affected by the fact that fat players clearly had a shorter leash than thin players. Only the best got to the show and those that did had significantly more pressure to perform than the average player. There still may be a correlation but not as direct as it may seem.
Exactly. Survivor bias. People look at antique furniture or houses and they say “things were better made back then.” Wrong. They made plenty of things poorly or cheaply 100 years ago. And that stuff didn’t exist anymore. We see only the 100-year old products that happened to have been well made. People also take better care of the best made products.
The players that lost weight on team orders and started sucking probably lost muscle weight because losing the fat was too hard in such a short time. Everyone knows muscle is easier to lose than fat. That would easily explain their regressions.
@@mat5473 Even if they didn't lose muscle, losing a lot of weight quickly is not healthy. Baseball's off-season is not very long. If I had a guy come in to spring training 30 pounds lighter than he was at the end of the year, I'd be worried. 10 pounds? Great but 30, that's asking for trouble. And of course as you said, there is likely to be muscle mass loss involved in that kind of weight loss too.
Big Sexy getting offered 50 grand to cut weight, getting FATTER instead, and then winning a Cy Young, is one of the most hilarious developments in baseball. Going on to become EVEN FATTER and be the MLBs oldest to hit their first HR is the cherry on top.
IT worked for John Kruk. He was a lifetime .300 hitter that, according to reports, would go inbetween innings and microwave hotdogs in the team microwave. He'd also order pizza and cheesesteaks and be surrounded with the wrappers.
I’ve long wondered if slimming down was the worst thing that happened to Felix Hernandez in his career. When King Felix arrived in the majors as a teen prodigy, he was noticeably thicker than pretty much every pitcher in his age bracket. After fulfilling his potential and becoming one of the most dominant pitchers in the game, Felix started to slim down noticeably and almost immediately started losing velocity on his fastball. This also had the effect of turning the best changeup in the game into just another pitch. Felix also seemed to lose durability and endurance, rarely pitching more than 5 innings in a start after turning 30.
It's possible but it could easily be a chicken or the egg sort of situation did the weight loss cause his struggles or did his struggles cause his weight loss. Then again, you could just be one of those situations You can find and basically every sport where a really great player has a really short prime
@karlwithak. you do realize that King Felix was 33 when he threw his last pitch, right? Also, players tend to put on weight as they age, not the other way around.
I watch a video based on Wade Boogs 73 beer flight. They did the math, and he have been super dead if it happened. But I admit it's a great baseball storytale. His BAC would be over 1%, which is more than double the lethal limit of 0.40%.
9:04 you’re inadvertently misrepresenting this research. The Harvard study uses the word “fat” as a form of intellectual clickbait. As someone with a graduate degree in psychology which is literally just to train you how to write studies and research that’s all, the entire premise is attacking the mass end of the BMI calculation. Players that weigh more are statistically significantly more likely to be taller players hence more frame to add more muscle along with more fat. Those two do not weight remotely the same. “Fatter” players at the top of the sport offensively who gained weight aren’t gaining fat - they are converting excess fat to muscle. That’s why it didn’t work for young. He was just getting fatter and he was diagnosed accordingly. Notice also how this only about offense. Your whole video started with all players but conveniently morphed into hitting. Those bigger players universally regressed in the field in cases where they were adding fat over muscle. So absolutely not it doesn’t help to be fatter. It helps to be stronger and taller players are higher ceilings to achieve this. Bc they are process is bal athletes, they still list weights so as players who are even lazy add weight, they can convert some of this after they add fat. The kids call this bulking. Smaller players can’t do this bc they have much less of a frame to play with this ratio. This is why Altuve has to remain as bulky as he can while being agile given that’s his strength. It’s also why you’ll see division 1 champion sprinters who could easily all set combine records in track shape but when drafted run much slower. Yah no shit they gained 30 pounds to be able to hit their bench targets. Trindon Holliday is the best example of this. In track shape he’d have zero problem going low 4s in a 40. We know this bc in literally electronic timing track races with blind starting guns unlike the goofy way nfl does it, we can clock his 40 meter pace. Same goes for Walter Dix who did go in the 3’s for his official 40 but that was in track shape. He’d likely not get drafted weighing 170 pounds soaking wet even as just a return man.
I weight 210 when I got drafted, gain 38lbs in the offseason and the A’s were furious the next year but I did well! Got up to 254 at 6’6”, and played for 12 years!
@@theathlete1903hey I looked up your name. It’s true, the A’s drafted you 1st round 38. You even played in Mexican league one year. You were a real baseball player.
I grew up in Little Rock, Arkansas. Dmitri Young is a legend in the Rock. He's our Babe Ruth. He once hit a ball over the retaining wall that kept balls off the freeway. I found that ball. It was on the other side of the freeway up the hill. Thats 800 ft. I have at least 20 of his HR balls. The left field fence was in front of the Armory my Dad worked at. He'd hit em on to the roof and we'd go get em after the inning as it was literally right next door. My fondest memories are of him putting balls on the moon in Ray Winder. Best player I've ever seen live.
My son is the chubbiest ( I wouldn't say hes "fat" but hes hefty) kid on his team but he's also the best pitcher and the best hitter. Funny enough he also plays ss if he's not pitching or playing 1st.
I can't believe how often you're able to release videos with this kind of depth. I feel like your masterpiece on Japanese baseball just came out! This channel is a wonder.
Exactly. For Example, Yordan Alvarez weighs 225, and is included in the "overweight" category in the video, even though his BMI (26.5) is lower than his teammate Jose Altuve's (26.7). Freddie Freeman is also "Over 210 lbs" but he's nearly a foot taller than Altuve, so his BMI is lower. It's not just about being "fat" it's about being big.
Growing up in Detroit, the first time my dad took me to a Tiger's game and I saw Cecil Fielder go up to bat for the first time live, I said to my dad incredulously "Dad, he's too fat to run the bases!" But my dad responded "He doesn't have to run so it doesn't matter if he's fat, he hits so many home runs." And to my amazement, that's exactly what happened. Cecil immediately hit a home run, and slowly and ceremoniously jiggled his way around the bases.
I haven't watched a single baseball game in 20 years, and this is insane. A bit like waking up from a coma and wondering, "what's going on in baseball?" Oh, there are loads of fat guys now.
I don't think it is possible to drink 107 beers in a few hours or whatever Boggs reportedly did. You would pass out after 30-40 or get alcohol poisoning, liver failure, or just not enough room in your system for that much liquid. I call BS. FYI, the unofficial world record is 156 beers but that was by the professional drunk Andre the Giant. He also died young.
I love how people in this day and age still think the most bogus unscientific statistic, BMI, means anything in regards to your health or fitness. Would love to see a video on how 99% of all NFL players not named Devonta Smith are "overweight" when he's less than 2 BMI points away from being "overweight" lol
THIS comment. The BMI wasn't even invented for what it's used for now. The guy who came up with it was only trying to see what averages were for men, and he only studied white European men. He specifically said it shouldn't be used for any individual recommendations. It wasn't meant as a measure of who should lose weight or not, it was just a measure of what average was. If they had all been fatter, the average would have been fatter, too. But now we're all reduced to a number and most people aren't going to get down to the "right" BMI and stay that way.
It's not perfect, but generally people who think it's useless and bogus are the ones squarely in the upper numbers...and it's not because they're professional athletes.
George Foreman famously won the heavyweight crown back in his late 40s. He had always been a power puncher young, and when he was older it was more of the same. He gained a substantial amount of weight and that was just more force into his punches. Makes sense to me from the stand point that the force is generated from your hips and having more weight around your hips puts more mass into movement at the most critical stage.
@@mikerogers5086 Well yeah, but the comment was about driving the ball far, not hitting line drives into gaps. One doesn't typically refer to a gap hitting leadoff center fielder as a "power hitter" even if he can hit the ball hard, so why should we apply a different principle to Vogey? There's more than EV that goes into power hitting. Side note, if you looked further into the stats you're referencing for 2023, you'd see that his 17.6% bump in hard hit% and 4.1mph increase in average exit velo was accompanied by a nearly 10% bump in ground ball percentage. His ground ball/fly ball ratio increased by .24 points! All of this resulted in a whopping... .032 point decrease in slugging and a 0.8 point reduction in hr%. Oh and to do all this he took a nearly 5% point hit in his walk rate. So he isn't hitting the ball any farther than he has in the past. And that's okay! HRs aren't his strength. Historically, his value has come from his on base skills, not his average or slugging. A good example is to look at years where his EV and hard hit% have been down, like 2022 or even 2020. His effectiveness really doesn't reduce that much. He's still walking, he's still hitting line drives, and he's still effective. That's discipline, not power.
Not sure about Lincecum in this video. He was always a smaller guy who threw gas, but his size scared many teams away. He got sick one offseason, and lost all kinds of weight and was a string bean. He gained the pre-illness weight back, but he never recovered his velocity.
And he's muscular, not fat. Statistics would suggest he'll probably be a giant whale after he's been retired for a few years 🤣🤣, but as of now, he's not fat at all.
a lot of baseball players are naturally more bottom heavy than the average man -- more of their weight is distributed more evenly throughout their whole body (no stick legs in sight) so even if their body fat % IS also in fact too high, they STILL won't necessarily "look" overweight cuz they're guys with thighs -- baseball booties are the best in sports
There are also many past and current players that were great despite being fat or not. It might work for some as you pointed out, but I also think of Ted Williams, DiMaggio, Jackie Robinson, Bob Gibson, Hank Aaron, Griffey, Aaron Judge, Ohtani, Ichiro, Nolan Ryan, Pedro Martinez.. The list can go on all day, but I would say that fitness and strength is directly related to athletic performance. The players today look pretty strong and in shape, but it’s also interesting to see how that’s not the case at all like the evidence in the video. This is what makes baseball interesting to me. It’s mental, unpredictable and relies on instinct more than athleticism sometimes. Great videos, man! Keep it up!
love your content. some guys are just huge and heavy but by no means over weight - like judge and stanton, they are just monsters among men. but i always thought the big guys had a distinct power advantage as well
It’s funny because whenever my partner occasionally glances at the screen when I’m watching a game, she’s like -why is that guy (pitcher or batter) fat and/or sweating? Cracks me up when she’s like -is he sweating from stress?
So every football player that isn’t a WR or DB is overweight/obese too? I get that you have a premise, but it’s misleading info when you put someone like Trout up there as an example of “more weight=good”. SO MANY PEOPLE don’t understand that height, body fat %, and muscle/bone mass are far more indicitive of health. Yes there’s very few, if any, I would consider healthy above 300lbs. But it ain’t black and white when you talk weights of pro athletes in the 150-250 range
I feel like I’ve always noticed that baseball players have a certain body type that is unique within athletics. It’s like fat-strong. Or strong-fat. Whichever you prefer. And tall. For some reason it works out near-perfectly in baseball.
No joke, the longest homerun I ever hit in my modest playing career was a game where I was sick as hell, I had been throwing up all night and barely could walk. I was hitting leadoff so I just took a big vicious hack at the first pitch, because I was hoping to hit it a mile and not have to run the bases, fastball right down the middle, I cracked that sucker over the scoreboard in left center, probably about 380 maybe 400 ft.
I hated as a kid in little league, and now with my son playing travel ball that so many "good" players are overweight kids who are twice the size of my son. They crush the ball and then go eat 5000 calories in junk food in the dugout. Its not a jealousy thing (my son is still really good and it doesn't affect him), just an aggravation.
I mean, yeah...thinking of some of my favorite Brewers comes up with names like C.C. Sabathia and Prince Fielder. And while he isn't on my list of favorites, all the gratuitous footage of the living embodiment of the Beer Barrel Man (a.k.a. Daniel Vogelbach) is much appreciated. I'm also loving the clip of Bartolo Colon's homer. That was an absolutely pure, joyous moment in baseball that we all got to experience in our lifetimes. What would have been nice to see is all of his ridiculously athletic fielding plays despite being a robust gentleman, though multiple shots of him eating ribs is also pretty okay. I am now going to eat ribs and wonder if I, an unathletic man nearing 40, should go to spring tryouts next year to offer my services.
Ive always loved the concept of fat players in baseball. What other major league sport has that. You can be fat, wear jewlery, chew on tobacco, while playing in a professional sporting event. Thats badass to me
This video made my day as I have often thought about this subject but not seen anything about it. The before and afters are just epic and show what our shittte American diet can do to even supposed in great shape baseball players. Colon is and was a freak of nature. His home run was one of the most fun Mets (big fan) moments of my baseball life.
In summary: extra weight helps in positions where leverage is important - hitting and pitching. Makes sense. Extra weight will reduce performance where speed/cardio/nimbleness are needed - fielding and base running.
Hi.... Nobody can drink 73 beers on a flight. Assuming he drank cans that's 6 gallons of liquid. That amount of liquid consumed in a short time can kill you, even if it's water.
A lot of the guys you highlighted as "technically overweight" are not overweight at all. Things like BMI and average/healthy weight do not do well at taking muscle into account. Mike Trout is not overweight, he's just built like a brick house and has a lot of muscle. That goes for many of the guys who got highlighted on that list
I grew up watching cricket and there were plenty of players that were fat and incorporated their size into their style of play. Honestly, when it comes to sports, whatever gets the job done (legally) should be appreciated. Feel like this is the physics of baseball coming up against our contemporary obsession with image.
Bmi does not show that a guy like Judge is muscular and tall, meanwhile Pablo Sandoval was sub 6 feet and over 250. Weight isn’t everything, it’s how much weight you carry that is muscle.
0:48 using BMI is a bad idea. Using BMI in sports is a terrible idea. Bryce Harper is 6'3 210 pounds. Technically he's overweight. But anyone can look at Harper and tell he's a healthy guy. He's muscular. 80 percent of the MLB is "over weight" because 65 percent of the MLB is in outstanding physical condition
Not every metric is perfect but it’s accurate for the most part outside for some outliers (mainly athletes) You’re right though for sports it’s not the best
Using BMI as a data point to determine if a player is overweight is not the best approach. There are players who are “overweight” because of muscle mass but these players are not fat. New guys coming up now are in better shape you don’t see many overweight players anymore
It may not be the best for performance, but watching Pablo Sandoval's belt bust from swinging the bat is one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time....
I didn't realize how many big fellas played baseball until after my freshman football season when there was three other linemen (including me) showing up to baseball pre conditioning that winter. unfortunately i switched to a school with no sports so i couldn't play with my buddies but i heard they weren't too bad.
couldn’t you argue that in order to be a fat pitcher you would have to be performing extra well or you’d be cut? After all, most of the video is spent discussing how skeptical MLB teams are of fat pitchers. So it’ could be a case of correlation, but not causation; a fat pitcher will be cut for poor performance at a lower bar than a fit pictcher, so their averages will necessarily be higher.
As long as your weight does not become a detriment to your overall health, players should have some discretion. Personally I don't think any ball player should be heavier than 250lbs, give or take... Everybody knows their body best, health is not as black and white as dietitians and health gurus claim. If a power hitter plays his best at 250lbs and his weight is stable year-year, then I think it's perfectly acceptable.
Just because they’re “overweight” doesn’t mean they’re fat. Perfect example Mike trout who in their right mind would say he’s fat or goldy or Ohtani? They may be “overweight” but that doesn’t mean they’re fat. Muscle weighs more than fat. Body fat percentage is a much better indicator for being that fat than weight alone.
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I'm assuming having enough lipids allows elasticity to apply while maintaining the mass on your body/arms as your body swings to hit the object or throw. There is a way to maintain both weight, elasticity, and uh balance/ clumsyness. Hard to balance, even with expects.
Being fat doesn't make anyone better at anything! And these stories aren't proven just hear say...
@@MrHeroicDemonbruh get a life lmao
$11 a meal is way more expensive than going to the grocery store
It still cracks me up that CC got skinny AFTER he retired. I love that freaking dude, he's a national treasure.
I'm happy for CC's health post baseball. But man, beer gut CC was a PROBLEM! 😂
Its a thing with some nfl linemen to lose the weight after playing days. I heard a former panthers linemen lost all the weight and ran a marathon
he was skinny for a short time late in his career, and it was probably his worst season, I knew that weight distribution thing was real because of it. glad he's healthier in retirement, though.
Mass=Gas in the words of CC. He said he wasn’t getting the velo when he was in his best shape.
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In short:
If you're heavy, you hit the ball harder, which is kinda the most important thing with baseball these days.
If you're heavy, you suffer fewer arm injuries because you pitch with your mass, not your arm.
As pointed out in some other comments, some of these numbers are misleading because they look at weight rather than the way the weight is carried. Jumbo Diaz and Aaron Judge should not fall into the same category.
However, a decent amount of the stars listed aren't particularly fat.
He ignores fat vs muscle, doesn't factor for height at all, and even misrepresented weights on his hitter lists. For example he has Miggy at 267 which was his 2023 weight when his 2013 Topps Card lists him at 240. He also had trout listed at the same weight for every season on there. And counted Ohtani as overweight
@@thomascevallos5042he literally said Miggy weighed 240 in 2013 11:15
@@ayarzeev8237 in the top OPS+ seasons earlier in the video, he lists 267 next to his 2013 OPS falsely increasing the correlation between weight and performance
@@thomascevallos5042 I see the point you are referencing now. That may have been a typo on the slide given what he said later in the video.
BMI is a terrible measurement for tall, muscular athletes. By those standards, Arnold Schwarzenegger classified as obese when he was literally Mr. Universe.
I have incredibly broad shoulders, and whenever I’ve weighed a “normal” I’ve looked skeletal
BMI can be really hit or miss
Many body builders are obese. Its just muscle weight versus fat weight. But they get so overweight their foot arches flatten out.
@@chonchjohnchI’m hardly hittin overweight with abs, unless you’re muscular as an ox you’re not gonna be too muscular for bmi it works for 99%+ of people
@@nhlifts9151 my shoulder span is 24 inches, it runs in my dad’s side
At 4:49 Freddie Freeman is one of nine “overweight” players! Absurd
Bartolo truly lives the American dream. Immigrated here like our forefathers, loves Mcdonald’s and Taco Bell, and made a living off of America’s past time😂😂😂 True American hero at work
I remember him from the minors. We saw him twice. That dude WAS charisma. Dunno how else to explain it.
Our forefathers didn't immigrate here, they settled it and created the Nation to begin with.
@MeanBeanComedy Imigrate: come to live permanently in a foreign country. Hope this helps ❤
@@ChangeDaWorld-c9b Spell immigrate properly. Also, you don't immigrate to a country that doesn't exist before you get there. The (original) legacy of the US is not immigration, that came later.
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@@MeanBeanComedy To be fair some of them were born elsewhere and did, in fact, immigrate here such as Alexander Hamilton, James Wilson, & Francis Lewis just to name a few.
You are onto something. Pablo Sanchez was always the best Backyard Sports athlete.
kiesha dmitri and mikey are also good at baseball and they're big to
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On the old slow ass PC . Great childhood memories , that little midget could ball
Oh my gosh if i could play that game rn
"I learned Spanish in school" IYKYK
I've never thought about the existence of an underground cheesesteak eating contest, but now that I know it is out there, there's nothing I want to be a part of more.
To be fair, most of the “overweight” players are not actually overweight, they just are big guys with lots of muscle mass, look at Kris Bryant or Bryce Harper who were listed as “overweight” its pretty clear theyre not actually overweight, just shredded and 6’3-6’5
Exactly, if these guys were 5-9 or 5-8 they would be way overweight but these guys are very tall
Yeah, I saw Aaron Judge on that list and was like???
The thing is the standard that determines overweight are outdated to be fair, and don’t take into account muscle.
Basically weight is weight. Your body is not designed to deal with it whether its all muscle or all fat. Muscle being denser and the actions you take to gain it tend to be healthier then just being a blob but your still going to run into problems from the added wear and tear.
This was David Ortiz. On TV he looked fat, but to see him in person, he was just a massive human being altogether.
"even his voice sounds fat" got damn 😂😂😂
that whole paragraph is soooo funny 😂😂😂😂😂
I want whatever he ate now. You know he eat good.
That publisher literally had something against fat people 😂😂
Best quote ever
@@willnyc377they probably did, but honestly that exact statement could be made in an admirable, positive way depending on intention, tone and context. It’s not inherently insulting and could believably be affectionate…but considering it was 2000 I’m gonna assume it wasn’t. Fuckin brutal though.
Pablo avoiding that tag while doing the splits is a thing of beauty. That statue belongs in the Big man Hof.
Kung Fu Panda dodge
This always made sense to me. Every time in Little League with a fat kid stepped up to the plate we always took five steps back
This is just evidence of how bad BMI is as a metric. Because while there are exceptions of "overweight" players that play well despite not having an athletic body type, a big reason for why so many of the best players are getting heavier is because it is more common for them to build much more muscle. And guys like Mookie Betts and Jose Altuve aren't lighter because they're more fit, they're just limited by height.
Realisticly if the average height of Americans was 6-3 none of these guys would be overweight
My BMI is perfect but I'm skinny fat 🤷
It’s only for normal people
@@kingyellowman5762skinny fat? Gtfo here
The big problem with BMI is that the number itself is meaningless without context, and because of its nature, the context that's provided is super generalized. The "healthy" BMI range is based upon the "average" person, but the nature of humans is that we aren't average, we all have unique quirks that require much more relative metrics. Someone that has a larger overall build might not actually be healthy by getting their weight into the healthy range. On the flip side someone that has a low percentage fat composition can be considered obese if they build enough bulk, but the nature of getting to that level of fitness means having to be the most healthy you can be. So at the end of the day the only thing that BMI alone is good for is comparing your weight to people of a similar height. It takes other metrics to understand whether a person's weight is a problem or not (or in this case to compare whether baseball players are better because they're fatter or have just bulked up more)
For the record, Ichiro would deliberately start the season about 20 lbs over his ideal weight because he'd lose it all, and then some, over the course of the season. He explained that it's the exact reason why his April and May numbers were the worst throughout the season.
My point is whether you're big or small, I believe productivity has more to do with a balance between consistency and adaptation. Bartolo remained consistent with his diet and was able to successfully adapt to the changes in his body while Pablo couldn't. It also takes a toll psychologically when you have to start being cautious of something you never had to think twice about before.
Best baseball content on UA-cam. This and Jomboy got me into baseball
I loved jomboy so much and still do that I couldn't imagine someone coming along and doing baseball content even better. But this guy is it.
@@corywilson2007 jomboy has fallen off and just shills out content now.
@@z.r.r4593 I feel that too. Seemed like he barely did any baseball videos last year compared to the previous years.
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He never does the lipsync stuff, which is what made him blow up. 😮💨 😢
@@z.r.r4593my guy, what are you talking about… just because not every video is baseball doesn’t mean the content is any worse. The whole company is having as much fun as ever on UA-cam
Also something to consider, a guy who is 6 foot 2, 210 pounds of pure muscle, chiseled like a sculpture, is considered overweight by bmi.
And at 6 foot 1, 220 pounds, considered obese.
there’s zero way mike trout and kris bryant were overweight in the 2014-2016 season
Tall and muscular counts as overweight I guess 😭😭😭
Yeah, the biggest reason baseball players are heavier than ever is because they are more muscular than ever.
People don’t realize that weight training was not a widespread practice in MLB circles until the 1990s, and that practice is not going away any time soon.
@@MisterVicky9 They're using BMI so anyone who's built is gonna count as overweight...I hope to god that paper he's mentioning doesnt also use BMI as its criteria for overweight
im 6'4 / 215 and I'm technically overweight
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I have never played baseball, but I was a fat kid and played cricket growing up. I was one of the fastest bowlers (cricket pitchers) in the school and was able to throw fast balls with a fraction the run up of my teammates.
107 beers is LITE
Nice lil warm up
Nah
Lite*
Natty lite
Easy pregame
I one time was in alcohol rehab with a pro ball player and as a big baseball fan I would chat with him and he told that the Seattle mariners set his ass there because his bottle of liquor per day habit was keeping him fat, and that was the primary reason they wanted him to give it up
Body weight and %body fat are two very different things. Nor does it take height into consideration
Dude legit called Mike Trout overweight. Wtf
BMI only takes height and weight into consideration. Height is definitely considered. Body fat is what's missing.
@@holstorrsceadus1990 BMI is body mass not body fat. in general if it fat or muscle you can still be over weight , look at body builders who are like 5 ft 9 and 250 lbs who are 5% body fat ... they still are considered over weight.
muscle is whats missing. most strong men are fat simply because restricintg your calories is stressful@@holstorrsceadus1990
He should look at BMI. But still, the physics make sense. In positions of leverage (ie hitting and pitching) extra weight / more mass helps generate power. In positions of running/speed/agility (eg fielding, running bases) it will work against you, slow you down.
I mean, Babe Ruth is a downright mythical and he had a beer belly. This seems like something that’d be just common sense
What does this say about baseball
@@kevinbeazy
What does it say about power lifting? Who cares. Big dudes bring power.
@@kevinbeazy Look at strongman physiques, strength is directly correlated with weight, putting up 100 pounds of muscle is just not sustainable so getting "out of shape" while keeping your strength training and conditioning will probably catapult your strength.
Stopped watching baseball for years - but I gotta say that this channel has gotten me back to watching & keeping up with the games! Thank you for this dope content
I click and I watch to the end everytime.
I'm from England and have never watched a baseball game in my 29years , but I like the vids/storys
I also watch jomboys cricket videos, even though ive never watched a match haha. @dtha_truth6079
Same
Same here I stopped watching after Strasburg got Tommy John's (and I personally didn't liked how they were babying him and still ended up having to do the surgery) found this channel during the off-season last year and he rekindled my passion for baseball so much I went to the cages swinging as if I was about to sign a contract but i still forgot to tune in to this season 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I LOVE baseball because the health grind obsession and body shaming doesn't apply. As John Kruk said in Sports Illustrated like 30yrs ago when interviewer tried to shame him for his unhealthy habits as an athlete, and he repsonded "i ain't no athlete, I'm a baseball player." He had a monster season.
I love this...I ain't no athlete, I'm a bb player...and one heck of a player he was
While it doesn't account for the players who lost weight and then sucked, it should be noted that the disproportionately good stats from heavy players could be affected by the fact that fat players clearly had a shorter leash than thin players. Only the best got to the show and those that did had significantly more pressure to perform than the average player. There still may be a correlation but not as direct as it may seem.
Exactly. Survivor bias. People look at antique furniture or houses and they say “things were better made back then.” Wrong. They made plenty of things poorly or cheaply 100 years ago. And that stuff didn’t exist anymore. We see only the 100-year old products that happened to have been well made. People also take better care of the best made products.
The players that lost weight on team orders and started sucking probably lost muscle weight because losing the fat was too hard in such a short time. Everyone knows muscle is easier to lose than fat. That would easily explain their regressions.
@@jamesdrake142Same is true for music.
@@mat5473 Even if they didn't lose muscle, losing a lot of weight quickly is not healthy. Baseball's off-season is not very long. If I had a guy come in to spring training 30 pounds lighter than he was at the end of the year, I'd be worried. 10 pounds? Great but 30, that's asking for trouble. And of course as you said, there is likely to be muscle mass loss involved in that kind of weight loss too.
Big Sexy getting offered 50 grand to cut weight, getting FATTER instead, and then winning a Cy Young, is one of the most hilarious developments in baseball. Going on to become EVEN FATTER and be the MLBs oldest to hit their first HR is the cherry on top.
IT worked for John Kruk. He was a lifetime .300 hitter that, according to reports, would go inbetween innings and microwave hotdogs in the team microwave. He'd also order pizza and cheesesteaks and be surrounded with the wrappers.
John Kruk is not a good siiingerr
We mask his hideous voiiice with more voluumeee
Wehwehweh doodoo
In the words of John Daly: "You can't pull fat"
🎶 sixty niiiiiine when you eat a junk lunch
Lots of cocaine too
I’ve long wondered if slimming down was the worst thing that happened to Felix Hernandez in his career.
When King Felix arrived in the majors as a teen prodigy, he was noticeably thicker than pretty much every pitcher in his age bracket.
After fulfilling his potential and becoming one of the most dominant pitchers in the game, Felix started to slim down noticeably and almost immediately started losing velocity on his fastball. This also had the effect of turning the best changeup in the game into just another pitch. Felix also seemed to lose durability and endurance, rarely pitching more than 5 innings in a start after turning 30.
It's possible but it could easily be a chicken or the egg sort of situation did the weight loss cause his struggles or did his struggles cause his weight loss.
Then again, you could just be one of those situations You can find and basically every sport where a really great player has a really short prime
@karlwithak. you do realize that King Felix was 33 when he threw his last pitch, right? Also, players tend to put on weight as they age, not the other way around.
I watch a video based on Wade Boogs 73 beer flight. They did the math, and he have been super dead if it happened. But I admit it's a great baseball storytale. His BAC would be over 1%, which is more than double the lethal limit of 0.40%.
Andre the Giant put away 100 beers in a sitting. Wade Boggs did not.
9:04 you’re inadvertently misrepresenting this research. The Harvard study uses the word “fat” as a form of intellectual clickbait. As someone with a graduate degree in psychology which is literally just to train you how to write studies and research that’s all, the entire premise is attacking the mass end of the BMI calculation. Players that weigh more are statistically significantly more likely to be taller players hence more frame to add more muscle along with more fat. Those two do not weight remotely the same. “Fatter” players at the top of the sport offensively who gained weight aren’t gaining fat - they are converting excess fat to muscle. That’s why it didn’t work for young. He was just getting fatter and he was diagnosed accordingly. Notice also how this only about offense. Your whole video started with all players but conveniently morphed into hitting. Those bigger players universally regressed in the field in cases where they were adding fat over muscle.
So absolutely not it doesn’t help to be fatter. It helps to be stronger and taller players are higher ceilings to achieve this. Bc they are process is bal athletes, they still list weights so as players who are even lazy add weight, they can convert some of this after they add fat. The kids call this bulking. Smaller players can’t do this bc they have much less of a frame to play with this ratio. This is why Altuve has to remain as bulky as he can while being agile given that’s his strength. It’s also why you’ll see division 1 champion sprinters who could easily all set combine records in track shape but when drafted run much slower. Yah no shit they gained 30 pounds to be able to hit their bench targets. Trindon Holliday is the best example of this. In track shape he’d have zero problem going low 4s in a 40. We know this bc in literally electronic timing track races with blind starting guns unlike the goofy way nfl does it, we can clock his 40 meter pace. Same goes for Walter Dix who did go in the 3’s for his official 40 but that was in track shape. He’d likely not get drafted weighing 170 pounds soaking wet even as just a return man.
I weight 210 when I got drafted, gain 38lbs in the offseason and the A’s were furious the next year but I did well! Got up to 254 at 6’6”, and played for 12 years!
whats your name if you dont mind me asking?
@@aryansharma808 Mike Rossiter 38th pick in 91!
@@theathlete1903hey I looked up your name. It’s true, the A’s drafted you 1st round 38. You even played in Mexican league one year. You were a real baseball player.
@@engell3707 that’s me… actually played a couple years down there but only one shows hp! Fun times!
That's really cool thanks for sharing it
I grew up in Little Rock, Arkansas.
Dmitri Young is a legend in the Rock. He's our Babe Ruth.
He once hit a ball over the retaining wall that kept balls off the freeway. I found that ball. It was on the other side of the freeway up the hill. Thats 800 ft.
I have at least 20 of his HR balls. The left field fence was in front of the Armory my Dad worked at. He'd hit em on to the roof and we'd go get em after the inning as it was literally right next door.
My fondest memories are of him putting balls on the moon in Ray Winder. Best player I've ever seen live.
I’ve seen photos of Miggy recently and he’s a lot slimmer now. Pretty crazy stuff since a lot of his physical ailments were affecting his mobility
I used to get annoyed as hell when watching Miggy jog to first base when he hit a grounder.
107 beers is pretty much 107 shots, you’re dying at least 5 times over doesn’t matter who you are. Never heard more cap in my life
Pablo Sandoval is a legend here in SF. Always brought the house down.
Tony Gwynn. He was a chunker. One of the greatest hitters of all time
Yeah I can't believe he wasn't mentioned in this video.
My son is the chubbiest ( I wouldn't say hes "fat" but hes hefty) kid on his team but he's also the best pitcher and the best hitter. Funny enough he also plays ss if he's not pitching or playing 1st.
Hello heart disease
Says the guy laying around playing video games, foh.
Huge respect for you, keep doing what you do and help your child, don't let others opinions affect you nor your son.@@Bobby-Dingers
He would still be the best pitcher if he carried less mass. Correlation isn't causation.
Congratulations, your kid is fat. What a great parent you are.
THAT UMP ACTUALLY TAKING A BITE OF THE BURGER THAT WAS ON THE BASE 😮 😂
Like you wouldn't. We all would.
As a bigger guy playing baseball, I see this as a win. My nickname in the dugout is Thicc Nick btw.
Fuck yeah
Babe Ruth, Mark McGuire, Barry Bonds, & Big Papi all prove that having extra weight gives you extra power. I don't know why it's still a discussion.
finally, some sports content i can relate to
Being fat sux unless you're rich
@@kingyellowman5762 not for Chris Farley
@@stewpitteejit I assure you he lived a better life than a skinny broke mf
Literally burst into tears at the sponsor choice on this one. Top tier stuff
I can't believe how often you're able to release videos with this kind of depth.
I feel like your masterpiece on Japanese baseball just came out!
This channel is a wonder.
Bartolo is every casual rec players hero. That man is a national treasure LUL
Alot of those ovrerwieght listed players are just tall. Aaron Judge is 282 lbs. but hes 6'7
Exactly. For Example, Yordan Alvarez weighs 225, and is included in the "overweight" category in the video, even though his BMI (26.5) is lower than his teammate Jose Altuve's (26.7). Freddie Freeman is also "Over 210 lbs" but he's nearly a foot taller than Altuve, so his BMI is lower. It's not just about being "fat" it's about being big.
Force = Mass x Acceleration. If you can accelerate more mass as fast or faster, one can increase their force in hitting and pitching.
This is the funniest baseball video I've ever seen
Growing up in Detroit, the first time my dad took me to a Tiger's game and I saw Cecil Fielder go up to bat for the first time live, I said to my dad incredulously "Dad, he's too fat to run the bases!" But my dad responded "He doesn't have to run so it doesn't matter if he's fat, he hits so many home runs." And to my amazement, that's exactly what happened. Cecil immediately hit a home run, and slowly and ceremoniously jiggled his way around the bases.
He was indeed a monster with a cap M
Aaron judge being 282 pounds shouldnt be overweight because hes 6"8
It’s more about him being that heavy
I haven't watched a single baseball game in 20 years, and this is insane. A bit like waking up from a coma and wondering, "what's going on in baseball?" Oh, there are loads of fat guys now.
Ozzie Guillen calling Jenks out of the pen is the funniest thing I’ve ever seen
I don't think it is possible to drink 107 beers in a few hours or whatever Boggs reportedly did. You would pass out after 30-40 or get alcohol poisoning, liver failure, or just not enough room in your system for that much liquid. I call BS.
FYI, the unofficial world record is 156 beers but that was by the professional drunk Andre the Giant. He also died young.
I love how people in this day and age still think the most bogus unscientific statistic, BMI, means anything in regards to your health or fitness. Would love to see a video on how 99% of all NFL players not named Devonta Smith are "overweight" when he's less than 2 BMI points away from being "overweight" lol
THIS comment. The BMI wasn't even invented for what it's used for now. The guy who came up with it was only trying to see what averages were for men, and he only studied white European men. He specifically said it shouldn't be used for any individual recommendations. It wasn't meant as a measure of who should lose weight or not, it was just a measure of what average was. If they had all been fatter, the average would have been fatter, too. But now we're all reduced to a number and most people aren't going to get down to the "right" BMI and stay that way.
It's not perfect, but generally people who think it's useless and bogus are the ones squarely in the upper numbers...and it's not because they're professional athletes.
George Foreman famously won the heavyweight crown back in his late 40s. He had always been a power puncher young, and when he was older it was more of the same. He gained a substantial amount of weight and that was just more force into his punches. Makes sense to me from the stand point that the force is generated from your hips and having more weight around your hips puts more mass into movement at the most critical stage.
Very funny as a Mets fan that a Vogelbach clip was used for “hit balls farther than ever.”
I am a mets fan, and vogelbach was really good besides the 2 months slump in the beginning of 2023 season
@@mikerogers5086 never said he was bad, but the man sure isn’t a power hitter. His strength is his discipline.
@emilyg3758 his strength wasn't home runs, but his exit velocity was in the top category in the league. His hitting came from his power.
@@mikerogers5086 Well yeah, but the comment was about driving the ball far, not hitting line drives into gaps. One doesn't typically refer to a gap hitting leadoff center fielder as a "power hitter" even if he can hit the ball hard, so why should we apply a different principle to Vogey? There's more than EV that goes into power hitting.
Side note, if you looked further into the stats you're referencing for 2023, you'd see that his 17.6% bump in hard hit% and 4.1mph increase in average exit velo was accompanied by a nearly 10% bump in ground ball percentage. His ground ball/fly ball ratio increased by .24 points! All of this resulted in a whopping... .032 point decrease in slugging and a 0.8 point reduction in hr%. Oh and to do all this he took a nearly 5% point hit in his walk rate. So he isn't hitting the ball any farther than he has in the past. And that's okay! HRs aren't his strength.
Historically, his value has come from his on base skills, not his average or slugging. A good example is to look at years where his EV and hard hit% have been down, like 2022 or even 2020. His effectiveness really doesn't reduce that much. He's still walking, he's still hitting line drives, and he's still effective. That's discipline, not power.
Not sure about Lincecum in this video. He was always a smaller guy who threw gas, but his size scared many teams away. He got sick one offseason, and lost all kinds of weight and was a string bean. He gained the pre-illness weight back, but he never recovered his velocity.
Eating lunch during this video is an experience. 10 cheesesteaks in a day???
When BDE posts a new video, I stop what I’m doing and watch. Even when I’m driving.
Aaron Judge is 6'7" 280 isn't THAT heavy for that height
Height doesn’t matter
Yeah it does
And he's muscular, not fat. Statistics would suggest he'll probably be a giant whale after he's been retired for a few years 🤣🤣, but as of now, he's not fat at all.
He’s also built like a titan so he doesn’t count in this regard
@@sloshtugz4087are you slow
a lot of baseball players are naturally more bottom heavy than the average man -- more of their weight is distributed more evenly throughout their whole body (no stick legs in sight)
so even if their body fat % IS also in fact too high, they STILL won't necessarily "look" overweight cuz they're guys with thighs -- baseball booties are the best in sports
@breadandcircuses8127i like big butts, & i cannot lie
LOL "This video is brought to you by cook unity" That made me lol in the context lol
There are also many past and current players that were great despite being fat or not. It might work for some as you pointed out, but I also think of Ted Williams, DiMaggio, Jackie Robinson, Bob Gibson, Hank Aaron, Griffey, Aaron Judge, Ohtani, Ichiro, Nolan Ryan, Pedro Martinez.. The list can go on all day, but I would say that fitness and strength is directly related to athletic performance. The players today look pretty strong and in shape, but it’s also interesting to see how that’s not the case at all like the evidence in the video. This is what makes baseball interesting to me. It’s mental, unpredictable and relies on instinct more than athleticism sometimes. Great videos, man! Keep it up!
BRB, gonna go drink a bunch of beer and pizza and go sneak into spring training for the Rockies
6:29 - Yer FACE on that fadeaway! 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
as a brit your vids are great . love the game
I have basically zero previous interest in baseball but I’m SO glad this channel showed up in my recs. This stuff is SO interesting!!
love your content. some guys are just huge and heavy but by no means over weight - like judge and stanton, they are just monsters among men. but i always thought the big guys had a distinct power advantage as well
It’s funny because whenever my partner occasionally glances at the screen when I’m watching a game, she’s like -why is that guy (pitcher or batter) fat and/or sweating? Cracks me up when she’s like -is he sweating from stress?
BDE is asking the real questions here
Nah, the real question is is: how fat would Ohtani have to get to win cy young and the triple crown in the same season?
So every football player that isn’t a WR or DB is overweight/obese too?
I get that you have a premise, but it’s misleading info when you put someone like Trout up there as an example of “more weight=good”. SO MANY PEOPLE don’t understand that height, body fat %, and muscle/bone mass are far more indicitive of health. Yes there’s very few, if any, I would consider healthy above 300lbs. But it ain’t black and white when you talk weights of pro athletes in the 150-250 range
The Kenny Powers archetype
I feel like I’ve always noticed that baseball players have a certain body type that is unique within athletics. It’s like fat-strong. Or strong-fat. Whichever you prefer. And tall. For some reason it works out near-perfectly in baseball.
Every like this comment gets ill drink a beer
Another one
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Your 77th beer on my behalf , don't chug , sip it slow
Drink up
Good luck lil bro
0:20 100 pieces of gum?
That’s Pete Carroll’s thing
Rest in Peace, Wade Boggs
Wade Boggs is very much alive
@@trublaze This meme never gets old.
@@BrassPlayr I must be new because I was very confused by the comment
I met CC at the Panda Express in the Houston airport during the 04’ AS Game. He was with Matt Lawton. Can confirm: he’s enormous.
The fear of running makes them hit harder
No joke, the longest homerun I ever hit in my modest playing career was a game where I was sick as hell, I had been throwing up all night and barely could walk. I was hitting leadoff so I just took a big vicious hack at the first pitch, because I was hoping to hit it a mile and not have to run the bases, fastball right down the middle, I cracked that sucker over the scoreboard in left center, probably about 380 maybe 400 ft.
I hated as a kid in little league, and now with my son playing travel ball that so many "good" players are overweight kids who are twice the size of my son. They crush the ball and then go eat 5000 calories in junk food in the dugout. Its not a jealousy thing (my son is still really good and it doesn't affect him), just an aggravation.
I think Boggs had 107 ROOT BEERS!
I mean, yeah...thinking of some of my favorite Brewers comes up with names like C.C. Sabathia and Prince Fielder. And while he isn't on my list of favorites, all the gratuitous footage of the living embodiment of the Beer Barrel Man (a.k.a. Daniel Vogelbach) is much appreciated.
I'm also loving the clip of Bartolo Colon's homer. That was an absolutely pure, joyous moment in baseball that we all got to experience in our lifetimes. What would have been nice to see is all of his ridiculously athletic fielding plays despite being a robust gentleman, though multiple shots of him eating ribs is also pretty okay. I am now going to eat ribs and wonder if I, an unathletic man nearing 40, should go to spring tryouts next year to offer my services.
Ive always loved the concept of fat players in baseball. What other major league sport has that. You can be fat, wear jewlery, chew on tobacco, while playing in a professional sporting event. Thats badass to me
Apparently you have never watched darts. Those dudes used to smoke during live television broadcasts. 🤣🤣
This video made my day as I have often thought about this subject but not seen anything about it. The before and afters are just epic and show what our shittte American diet can do to even supposed in great shape baseball players. Colon is and was a freak of nature. His home run was one of the most fun Mets (big fan) moments of my baseball life.
In summary: extra weight helps in positions where leverage is important - hitting and pitching. Makes sense.
Extra weight will reduce performance where speed/cardio/nimbleness are needed - fielding and base running.
BDE-another excellent video, as usual! Glad to see you posting cool vids even in the offseason! 🙌
Well baseball being America game makes sense now. Babe Ruth would be proud
Lol at mike trout being "overweight". BMI is BS and doesn't factor in muscle density. LeBron is easily 260+ lbs... is he overweight too?
Hi.... Nobody can drink 73 beers on a flight. Assuming he drank cans that's 6 gallons of liquid. That amount of liquid consumed in a short time can kill you, even if it's water.
A lot of the guys you highlighted as "technically overweight" are not overweight at all. Things like BMI and average/healthy weight do not do well at taking muscle into account. Mike Trout is not overweight, he's just built like a brick house and has a lot of muscle. That goes for many of the guys who got highlighted on that list
I grew up watching cricket and there were plenty of players that were fat and incorporated their size into their style of play. Honestly, when it comes to sports, whatever gets the job done (legally) should be appreciated. Feel like this is the physics of baseball coming up against our contemporary obsession with image.
Bmi does not show that a guy like Judge is muscular and tall, meanwhile Pablo Sandoval was sub 6 feet and over 250. Weight isn’t everything, it’s how much weight you carry that is muscle.
0:48 using BMI is a bad idea. Using BMI in sports is a terrible idea. Bryce Harper is 6'3 210 pounds. Technically he's overweight. But anyone can look at Harper and tell he's a healthy guy. He's muscular. 80 percent of the MLB is "over weight" because 65 percent of the MLB is in outstanding physical condition
Not every metric is perfect but it’s accurate for the most part outside for some outliers (mainly athletes) You’re right though for sports it’s not the best
Using BMI as a data point to determine if a player is overweight is not the best approach. There are players who are “overweight” because of muscle mass but these players are not fat. New guys coming up now are in better shape you don’t see many overweight players anymore
It may not be the best for performance, but watching Pablo Sandoval's belt bust from swinging the bat is one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time....
Also, the Mariners catcher referenced in this video was Jesus Montero, not Miguel Montero.
I remember he was a skinny kid on thr yankees and he really lost himself.
If there's a sport where being overweight is actually a luxury, baseball IS that sport.
How much cardio do you really need tbh?
I didn't realize how many big fellas played baseball until after my freshman football season when there was three other linemen (including me) showing up to baseball pre conditioning that winter. unfortunately i switched to a school with no sports so i couldn't play with my buddies but i heard they weren't too bad.
couldn’t you argue that in order to be a fat pitcher you would have to be performing extra well or you’d be cut? After all, most of the video is spent discussing how skeptical MLB teams are of fat pitchers.
So it’ could be a case of correlation, but not causation; a fat pitcher will be cut for poor performance at a lower bar than a fit pictcher, so their averages will necessarily be higher.
your videos are so well done so well informed and just completely enjoyable to watch keep it up!
As long as your weight does not become a detriment to your overall health, players should have some discretion. Personally I don't think any ball player should be heavier than 250lbs, give or take... Everybody knows their body best, health is not as black and white as dietitians and health gurus claim. If a power hitter plays his best at 250lbs and his weight is stable year-year, then I think it's perfectly acceptable.
Just because they’re “overweight” doesn’t mean they’re fat. Perfect example Mike trout who in their right mind would say he’s fat or goldy or Ohtani? They may be “overweight” but that doesn’t mean they’re fat. Muscle weighs more than fat. Body fat percentage is a much better indicator for being that fat than weight alone.
This is one of my favorite Channels on UA-cam but all I could think about the whole video was “more longer”