Old AC INFINITYs are bad and here’s why 😤.
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2021
- There is a problem with AC Infinity Fan Systems ... and nobody is talking about it. Until now. Review.
LIVE Dashboard: geni.us/active-grow (AC Infinity could never build this)
Tenti controller: geni.us/controller (an ACTUALLY intelligent controller) - Навчання та стиль
Go to the off setting and then set fan speed to 1 or 2 then when it goes off it only turns down fan to 1 or 2 depending on setting, constant flow. You need to look at how the fan works before putting stuff like this out, the fans are stunning and cut down on energy too.
Agree he doesn't understand the off settings regardless what controller. I use the reverse of the high and low temp setting so I have a band the fan is on the "on speed" and the a constant low speed in the "off setting" when outside of my ideal temp. I use this type of setting for my lung room intake.
@@filipinomangog0489 so you're saying the 529 can run 24/7 on a low fan speed (let's say 2) and then when it hits the numbers I pick it will run on the higher speed?
@@filipinomangog0489 can you elaborate a bit more on your settings? Youd have a High Temp set at 80F and then have the Low temp set at 70F?
Ok thanks for your tips appreciate it
I went to the OFF setting to set the fan speed at 1 or 2. My controller doesnt allow the fan to run while OFF is chosen. I can only change the ON settings fan speed
This problem is fixed with the new AC-67 controller. There is now constant air flow 24/7 like it should be. Plus, you can control it via Bluetooth.
@@HomeGrowEngineering The app is in Beta mode. when you buy a controller 67 you will get a website and a code to enter beta for their app. controller 67 works perfect for me with bluetooth
@@oldeverest1715 Ok, didn't know that. I got the old one.
@@HomeGrowEngineering thank you for your videos anyway 👉🏾💯👍🏾
@@HomeGrowEngineering I have the old one as well and I. Not about to buy another one at this time. I like your idea and the fact that it has a dash board I can visually see what's going on throughout the day/week ... Depending on the memory it has.
I have a grow room with an intake fan that cycles on a timer but I would love to cut that power consumption out if I can because In Reality it's not a sealed room so that fan is not really necessary. So if I was to implement this tech I'd be able to do so. Is this controller affordable, or no offense are you trying to get rich on the idea?
I hate that you have to buy the Controller 67. I should be standard by now. I been running the 67 for about a year now.
Would we be able to wire up regular generic 3 wire fans to be controlled via the 3.5mm stereo TRS connector? I would love to add a basic fan as an intake and control it with the same controller.
the way around this is to run a humidifier in the tent, or pumping into the tent, from outside of it. Use a humidity controller and run it 1% above the high humidity setting on the AC Infinity controller. It works wonders!
that is a decent idea, i would worry about sensor placement and intake placement, if there is a wet spot it could form mold, or if something happens to the sensor it could give a misreading and ruin the crop.
i think the ambient humidity in the room could be 60% and just run a fan on low speed 90% of the time. take a regular timer and give it a couple cool off periods so the motor isn't running 24/7
the speed just needs to be high enough to provide enough CFM to have good turnover for cubic air circulation.
this vid talks about outside environment but really there are 3 layers of environment.. tent > ambient house environment > exterior environment. the most important thing would be to dial in the ambient house environment. if the environment of the grow room is good than the grow would be good, the air intake would always have ideal temp and humidity
Wo hast du den Ac Infinity gekauft?
Hi Volker, great videos and for trying to help make growing simpler. If I was to buy your controller and 4” fan kit, do they come with a AU plug setup if I’m in Australia? Cheers in advance
Yes! Comes with the right cables. But you might want to wait until it pops up on amazon Australia. This month! You can find it then on amazon by searching 'Tenti controller'.
@@HomeGrowEngineering thank you for the reply and update on my message. I’ll wait for it to pop up on Amazon then. Thanks again cheers 🍻
@@BrettTK2EMedia 🍻
@@BrettTK2EMedia did you end up getting one Brett ? and with the Aussie cable ? if you did how have you found it
Hi all, I was thinking about getting an ac infinity... I want to achieve the following
Minimum cfm at all times to supply enough fresh co2 and mask smell thru carbon filter. Plus I want fan to increase automatically up if temps or humidity get to high but to just the right speed to get job done before returning to minimum speed for co2 and smell removal.any suggestions?
The AC67 controller does that
Both controller will do it. Just set your "off" speed to be whatever cfm you need. The benefit of 67 allows the ramp up of speeds based on your set temp and/or humidity and how much it's exceeded. Its also much easier to program with the app. I have 3 67’s used for various applications and I think they are great short of having no wifi connection.
Should I buy standard s6 fan and a separate 67 controller... or do new t6 fans just come with 67 controller... or do I have to buy t6 And another separate 67 controller which seems like a waste?
In the app of AC Infinity you can set minimum and maximum fan speed by grow, bloom or other pre configurations by the user
Nice man! Seeing a problem and makin a solution is very inspiring! Really good vid and I hope you do well with it!
Und kann ich das nicht beheben mit einer Steuerung ?. Ich habe das Set nicht von Ac aber von Spiderfarmer. Gibt es eine Steuerung um Strom an zu stellen, damit Luft durch kommt auch bei Nacht, dennoch der Controller von SF funktioniert. ? Also eine Steuerung in bestehende Systeme integrieren ?
ALso der von dir veröffentlichte ist nicht verfügbar
But what if you have a controlled outter environment to pull fresh air from. With outside humidity levels constantly regulated?
Trashing another companies products to push your own overpriced $300 controller is pretty shady. I mean in your other video you literally took their fan without their permission to sell with your controller.
Nothing wrong with calling out obvious flaws and building a better product.
Their fans are fine.
The fan is good but the ac-infinity controller need a replace
@@darko7182 friend of mine bought a phresh stealth hyper fan and it’s way more quiet compared to my ac infinity, they not as quiet as people make out too
@@HomeGrowEngineering you are reviewing an old product from a reputable company. They have updated there controller twice since the model in your video. You can control humidifiers/dehumidifiers fans and lights with the new ones. Up to 4 different things of your choice. I don't think you would be very happy if In two years they compared your product from this video to their latest and greatest and made comments such as you did about theirs. Good luck with your controller and business model though.
@@chriswelch9070 well said 👏🏾
you can program the "off" position to be a low speed so that this isn't an issue
is there a way to program a minimum fan speed on the app?
yes.
it lets you set minimum and maximum fan speed.
I just got an ac infinity 4" fan on amazon it came with the 67 controller and you can set the thing to be always on in the auto mode. Probably thanks to people like you. I was watching your video just before i received my package and was worried, but once I opened the box i was relieved to see the 67 controller and bluetooth sticker on it. App controlled, works great!
So then you haven't had any problems with it? I was thinking about getting mine off amazon too but then I saw this guy's video and idk if I should still get it or the vivosun. Did you get the ac infinity t4 4" one that's like $119?? Thats the one I'm looking at.
@@Nevxh Its awesome, comes with 67 controller with bluetooth app etc... I'm very happy with it!
I have the same unit . LOVE IT 👍
I was about to buy your unit but I have an 8x8 with multiple lights. Any hope for implementation for multiple inputs to control?
I'm sorry ... not at this time. How much total real draw do your lights have?
@@HomeGrowEngineering Currently installing a new 20A circuit to run the other half of the tent lights. Being as it's all on 120v and not 240v it's obviously going to be higher but I still want to stay below 80% for both circuits. Leaving me with 32A +/- to play with for ventilation, heating and air pumps. Would say I'm around 2k watts, 20ish amps give or take.
@@oklagrowmie5587 Ok. Yeah that would need multiple relays to carry this current
I have a AC infinty and I bought both ur unit and adapter. What will that improve?
You will have the right airflow all the time. The AC Infinity is either ON all the time, or it will be OFF during the night, suffocating your plants.
@@HomeGrowEngineering this isn't true for the new AC-67 controller. i keep mine on 3 at all times. and it will bump up higher if the temp or humidity changes.
Ac infinity did start of for electronic racks and saw they can help out the growing community so yeah the first products were good but not great for growing but now they are really developing grow products. This controller ‘problem’ was fixed with their Controller 67. They are learning and adapting and coming out with great stuff for growers.
It’s not two speed, it can ramp up speeds gradually based on the difference between the trigger and set parameters. It’s under the settings under transition. Maybe learn about the product first before trying to talk trash about it.
@@HomeGrowEngineering none of what you said is true dude! Like you’re obviously just coming up with lies to try and make a false point.
Ok I wasn't aware that they send the new one by default. Sorry for my replies earlier. I will check the new controller.
Hey love all your content, i love your website but i was wondering why there is no guide on stress training, topping, or lollipoping
Thank you. You're right, I must add that.
Get a VPD chart, bracket in your humidity and temps for the VPD you want, set those as your min and max Humidity and temps. Done. It would probably be far too complex of a system for a fan to control the room at a certain VPF
The best thing is to make stuff to suite your needs. Stuff you can buy very rarely comes with all the functionality you would want.
Nice job!
You messed up from the beginning. You said first step is to program it. Just program the off setting to a low fan speed. Did you read the instructions?
I run a constant clean air intake & use the smart unit to regulate!!
They work great!!
i do the same, kind of no brainer really.
I wonder kf these fans would be ideal for pc cooling as ive noticed they have smaller fans also.
When lights go off and Humidity skyrockets, no air flow will cause powdery mildew.
When will the single plant grow kit be ready ?
November
you supposed to set the speed at least in 1 for continuous flow then you set the alarm system with the high temp and humidity and low ones, the alarms will work as the smart system but , you have to have the fan at least in 1 for continuous air flow, plants need that airflow the whole time , so is disingenuous to say that, is better to say i have no clue or don't know how to use it , is a much better statement for this video, if you wannasell another controller just sell the controller dont batch something that you just showed that you don't know how to use cheers
Real talk…I’m watching and I’m like I have continuous flow with my T8 and i was bugging like homie must be doing something wrong lol
And I’ve owned mine for 3 years now
He doesn't talk about the fact that everyone has at least 1 fan circulating the air all the time inside the tent. Also if the outside weather has such an impact on your temp and hum inside your house, you have shitty insulation/seals.
I mean as long as you have some fan in the tent to circulate air in general, you are meeting temps as well as humidity, your lights are off therefore your plants are not photosynthesizing and not exchanging co2 and photons to produce exudates and other carbohydrates why are you cycling your air?
Just add a small co2 bag if you are that concerned about it.
Just keep mine on 24/7 no problems. Why would you not have a fan running
The fan running 24/7 same speed is not a good control system
@@HomeGrowEngineering No, but it is a system.
I’m literally going to get one of those remotes. I’m having the same problem. At night time when the temps are below the set temp the fans are off all night
I do like your advanced controller with the wifi but this review is unfair to ac infinity. I know people who received the new AC-67 controller when they bought the larger cloudlines ts a few weeks ago. It'll be a matter of time before it hits the 4" and 6". Also it can do minimum speed now and then a more advance setting where the speed ramps up and down incrementally.
I will review the 67 too. But at this point, going by their websites, all units ship with the old one. So its fair for me to comment on that one.
I tried your links but they are not working.
I checked and they work now.
Awesome... thanks for sharing
👍🏻
My ac infinity tent hold temp and humidity very well indoor in a controlled environment
Dude, you are right on the money, I hate the timing controls on the lights too
Or you can just leave an exhaust hole open and run a small fan constantly. You should be more worried about controlling the outside environment to keep the tent constant then just controlling the tent
I was thinking that too.I run three,4 inch clip on fans in my 3x3 AC Infinity tent,one at the trunk area,1 at canopy level and one at the top of my tent and I’ve never had any mold,mildew,or bud rott,
Good video brother I always enjoy them
Glad i read the comments before listening to this whole vid
So this would be the same for phresh controllers.
this would be really cool if you added relays for a heater and co2 controller
Great idea, thanks. I might do that.
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Best keeping the fan connected to a timing plug.
Love ur pictures of the house
My lights are on at night and off during the hottest part of the day that way it’s warm enough at both times to keep it running in automode. I live in south Florida so it’s hot and this light schedule saves money 💰
Running at night is a good idea for hot climates.
@Canna Denfour20 true!
I ran into the same problem, but they did fix this is newer versions
Have you thought about using the controller to control VPD?
It was mentioned several times and I think its a great idea.
Thank you!
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
Price
$249 if you use it with your existing ACI fan. geni.us/controller
AC had new betters controllers now, with phone app wiffi, bt etc for less than 50$.....!
I will test it.
@@HomeGrowEngineering I use this one, I have bough this one last year and I use it with BT app on my phone....! An 5 time cheaper than your product ! I think your product is smartest and better quality ! But the price .... the price ! Make something
@@HomeGrowEngineering they have an app but it only works over Bluetooth.
@@boobasativa Ok.
They have a new controller made for growing it stays running way more controller saying that I've not had a problem with the old ones love the content stay blessed
They have a new controller but not many reviews about it
Mountain Air. It doesn't have digital controller only temp and speed but its hands down a better product.
I'll check it out.
This doesn't make any sense? The outside weather shouldn't impact the environment of the tent unless you leave the door or window open 25/7, or if you have very poor sealing on the window. Ultimately you should monitor, and you can control, the outside environment of the tent (the room the tent is in). This can easily be done with a variety of tools (humidifier, dehumidifier, a fan, opening the window for certain amounts of time, a heater, etc).
you can set it to idle at whatever speed you want at night for air circulation. read the manual first before bashing a very good company
In addition, the device has the function of recording, which can record the history of temperature and store the history of startup and shutdown.
I want to invite 10 people to review it. The samples are free. Please contact me directly.
Go to On mode and set fan speed, then when in Auto mode that will be the max speed.
Maybe it was a faulty one should just exchanged it I hear they pretty good with getting right. Got to give them that..
That’s why you get the new tech my G!!!
My shit would never turn all the way off. What idiot would have their fan turn all the way off for ANY amount of time?!? It gets too hot in there, it ramps up until it exhausts the hot/humid air out and then goes back down to normal, never all the way off.🤷🏻♂️
I will have to disagree if you have a dehumidifier that is always keeping your humidity at a steady level AC Infinity works great if you don't you will have a problem with big spikes on humidity and your VPD chart will be all off.
They fixed that with the 67 Controller
I don't have a problem with that I installed a small Axial fan from AC infinity 👍
i sent you an inquiry on october 8th using e-mail address from your website... i never received a reply... did you send me one and it was blocked by my e-mail box or you never did?... i've been told by some people that their e-mail/replies sometimes get rejected by my e-mail box server bot, hence my question...
Hi, let me check with caty, she does email.
@@HomeGrowEngineering ok, let me know please, i'm still very much interested in at least one of your mini tents but need that reply to my inquiry/questions...
@@36Studebaker You could also email myself at volker@tomatotent.com
@@HomeGrowEngineering ok volker, i'll just copy my original inquiry i sent you on 10/08 and paste it into the new e-mail with your address above... i'll send it out within the next 1/2 hour and will check for your reply tonight or tomorrow [it's 5 am here and i'm going to sleep now] if you won't get the chance to write me one today...
you are a beast man ! ya rule
Get the new Ac Infinity Controller 69 Pro Wi-Fi all good 100% best in class IMO
Na that was a good very good presentation thank u
First of all his the basis for his testing is wrong. He thinks the fan pumps air into the tent, when it actually draws it out. Duh the outside climate will affect the climate inside the tent, that's why you don't pump the outer air into your tent. A grow tent is essentially it's own climate, hence why you control what goes on inside the tent with heat and humidity. Solving for airflow is as simple as adding an intake vent or two on the lower bottom of your tent.
Its great you built your own smart system and everything. But talking cr@p about AC Infinity is not good sportsmanship. I mean how would you feel if someone asked why your controller plus fan kit is overpriced at $300? You can buy two CLOUDLINE T6s at that price. You basically have a cheap $5 AC Square Axial fan and put a nose in the front and back of it to mimic a duct fan. You do realize axial fans have a low static pressure ratings and cant push air through carbon filters right?
I will say the truth, that my system costs much more because I'm a small shop hand-building in Australia. I cannot compete on price against a large company. But I beat them 10x on quality. They can never built an app like mine.
I'd also say that my controller manages the whole tent. Including light and drying.
Its actually the very definition of good Sportmanship to build a new product and compete. I have every right to comment on the weaknesses of the incumbent.
I have measured my axial fan in myother videos. It easily pushes air through 2 carbon filters, I agree my fan is not the greatest yet. That's why I made my controller work with other fans, too. Any EC fan of any size will work.
All the units I see on their website contain the old controller. I will check the new one to see if what you're saying is correct.
Just put a 6inch fan in your text outlet facing in to your tent
I have other fans going all the time I just use it to cool down my tent
Simply add a humidifier
Just buy 2 4" units. Set one for Temp and the other for Humidity
Oh man, let's unpack all this. It seems like you're relying on your controller to do absolutely everything for you. Where are your tent fans for air circulation? Are you conditioning the air in the room that your tent is in? Do you have a humidifier and dehumidifier to control your RH? Is your tent exhausting directly into the room its sitting in? These are all variables that to be addressed first. My Grow closet is upstairs. It vents into my attic. It pulls fresh air when needed from the room that it is in that has an AC unit keeping the room within a temp range. I have a humidifier in the room to treat the air as needed. I have a dehumidifier in the grow closet to keep the RH where it needs to be. I run my lights at night to keep the closet cooler than if I ran my lights during the day. I have two 6" AC infinity fans for my intake and exhaust. I have worked to design my grow space to be as stable as possible and I can say that I don't have the problems you apparently have had.
So then the ac infinity cloudline t4 would be a better buy than the vivosun incline?
This fellas having a hard time lol.
Lucky Ac infinity don’t take you to the cleaners mate they could sue you
Yeah the controller is kinda useless to me. I was disappointed when I realized I wouldn’t be able to use the controller. I definitely want to try your controller.
Thanks. Thats what I mean.
darum gibt es auch einen feuchtigkeitssensor ;)
Stell einfach bei off Stufe 2 ein, dann läuft er immer min auf 2😉
I like my fan to run at the same speed day or night for air exchange. I only change the speed from winter to summer to utilize the heat from the lamps. I use $30 inkbirds to control the rest one for heat, cool, and one for humidifying or dehumidify all constant regardless of outside weather conditions.
That makes sense. Its the same functionality people get from the AC inf for just $30
Airflow 24-7
It would make me just feel smarter using something like this, and it would make any plant feel better more of the time! I can see there are times when plants could suffer and be set back under certain conditions when a fan isn't running, this makes a way for one less thing to go wrong.
Thanks for figuring it all out and bringing this to market.
Thank you
Lol he does know how to use it
Savage
I thought you were a bit sketchy as soon as I saw you .
Then when you pulled out your own controller, I laughed 😅 .
Your controller looks like a DIY raspberry pi or something 😆.
Nice try though .
There might be a flaw in this video...
Your invention seems fantastic and what many home growers have been seeking ,it addresses a problem many of us have delt/dealing with. However many home gardener's will find the price outside of their budget.
Thank you. Will try to reduce price over time. Currently not able to.
@@HomeGrowEngineering Understandable, from a previous video i know you had some issues with manufacturing. I look forward to seeing how this product and your business evolves.
I ended up buying wifi sockets and a wifi temp sensor using smartthings. it is all automated now. plus, with the ac-67 controller, i can control the fan via Bluetooth.
This guy is lame he’s just trying to sell his stuff you can always set the fan to stay on and when the temperatures get too high it goes for speed to cool it down
I have a 4 inch and a 6 inch AC infinity. They both don't work properly off the settings parameters. Both were a waste of money.
upgrade the controller to the AC-67 on Amazon.
Yeah that's what I mean.
Lmfaooo he dunno what he talking about
People are suggesting that the new AC-67 controller fixes the problems. I also heard from many sources that AC INfinity now sends out the new controller by default. That's good.
Still. most people have the old controller which is not good. Luckily, it can get upgraded either with the AC-67 (cheap) or my Tenti controller (expensive).
Also, 3 people have reached out and said that using VPD (Vapour Pressure Deficit) to calculate airflow. I think that is a great idea. www.cannabissciencetech.com/view/understanding-vpd-and-transpiration-rates-cannabis-cultivation-operations
People in the grow community are already confirming they are get the AC-67 when they buy the larger cloudlines. It'll be a matter of time before it hits the 4" and 6". Its also more than two speeds if you knew how the custom settings work.
@@alanw4541 Now that I put out the video showing how bad the old one is, they better send the 'new' controller. But I doubt they are, looking at their website and amazon.
I will test the Controller 69, I mean 67, and see whats what in a future video.
I recently ordered my ac infinty fan a few weeks back and did not recive the controller 67. I got the old one.
@@Punkt44a ok. They must have just changed it.
@@Punkt44a buy the 67 then send it back but put the old one in the box.
You can't control micro climates properly. You should be controlling your grow room temperature and not the tent. The controler is pointless for the most part unless you have a closed recirculating system for co2. Even then it's better to have timers programed. I think for your small tent its pointless. This is more about proper set up than not working your title is a lack of knowledge
ITS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT SET UP PROPERLY
I know it keeps getting turned on & off on & off in the morning..... I can recommend a doctor that can fix that for you whether you want it on or off. Blue pill or red pill. 🤔🤔😊😉😆😄😅😃🤣😂😁😎😎😎
No way this guy is trying to compete with ac infinity 🤡
The way you went about this, you have the drive, but lack a structural HUGE amount of knowledge about growing, product design, just everything...
Thanks, but we built a complex, WiFi-enabled product and brought it from prototype (easy) to market (hard). Including coding, electronic design, mechanical design, and manufacturing. AND got sales. If you haven't done the same (which you likely haven't), please keep your opinion private.
They released the Controller 69, this video is now useless
Somebody take this video down
clickbait title
Tenty, how German of you. Germans also call a cellphone a Handy. Very creative.
dont you dare talking bad about our handys
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Ac infinity is overpriced garbage!