@RitaSano-tz4wyhonestly, this plastic watch is not work the asking price. I completely believe this watch is fine to buy a replica. If you are buying fake Rolexes, that is not right. Cringy and dishonest. This plastic watch isn’t the same situation.
I don’t doubt it that both the copy and the original are extremely cheap to manufacture, but what makes you think that the copy is more expansive? Just from this video you can see the discoloration on the plastics.
Actually since (I am told) the “mechanism” or “movement” (lol 😂) is a tad more expensive and arguably better “ quality” in the fake, the fake is the one to collect. Not the Swatch. Omega need to take a good long hard look at themselves. I’ll never buy an Omega now, like I would never have bought a Swatch.
I BOUGHT THE FAKE. My way of giving Swatch the middle finger. I waited all night in line for only 70 available pieces went to store many time and nothing. Wearing a fake 250 plastic watch is not flexing not the same as a fake Rolex. All my watch friends geeks think the same ..Swatch fkd up not making them easily available to everyone as they promised online..
The moonswatch is in that rare club in which the original watch is so bad that the replica is essentially comparable, and may even be superior, to the original.
@@williamsipe1151 yeah the skx had its run but i dont get why people still insist on It since you can get better diver from the other japanese watches.
So it poses a moral dilemma to some to buy a rep from swissarex that is same as original watch rather than supporting a Swiss non-profit with huge mark-up that benefits charities in one of the richest countries on earth, while they already sell everything they make without a problem? Okay fine, buy the genuine article. It won’t be any more accurate, durable or attractive, nor will anyone notice or care. It's your money, do what you want. Don’t get me wrong, I believe in paying homage to the original designers and/or founders, but they are long gone. I mean, if you’re driving an Escalade, you own a rebadged Tahoe. The badge only means so much, so why not just state what it’s really meant to represent? Steinhart and the rep factories are both selling clones but only one is honest about what they're copying.
I’ve had one and not impressed with it one little bit. Have gave it to my teenager to wear, she likes it. The copy is probably better than the original. They are so over priced for what they are. I get a better thrill wearing my casioak!
The actual scary thing is, that the Copy houses the superior movement - a Seiko 7T62. The ETA chrono V8 (in the original) ticks and misses the marks pretty much all the time. The copy however manages to have an actual sweep chrono like a real mechanical to messure time 5 times a second, where as the ETA only 1 time per second. For 1p times the price, that is disappointing ..... very sad. (Update - its a Sunon PE50, not Seiko)
I doubt that the fakes have a Seiko movement, especially an old one like that, the subdial layout on that one is wrong for the Moonswatch. The more expensive ones maybe have a Miyota JS00 or Seiko VR34 or VK68 but the cheaper ones (25£ around there) most likely have a cheap Sunon PE50. They are cheap to replace and since you can open the fake (unlike the original) you can even do that yourself.
The movement used for the fake watch I own also sweeps and has a 24h dial function at three o clock, the real one measures 1/10sec with the chronograph running. Also, there are more than one manufacturer of these fakes and color can vary, mine looks even closer to the original.
If you want a real moonwatch, but don't have/don't want to spend the money on an Omega, you could also look for a Bulova Lunar Pilot. This is as much a moonwatch as the Omega, but nobody knows about it. I opted for the Bulova, since I don't want to be a slave to the Swatch store where I have to go every week to see if there's stock, and in the end, you just have a plastic watch without any heritage. It just looks a bit like a moonwatch, but it's nothing. And it's plastic with a fancy name, and a scratchy plastic 'glass'. Somebody commented that Swatch employed the Apple marketing tactic by creating a shortage and a lot of hype, and it worked. Hats off to Swatch. I was tempted to buy one, but I resisted in the end and got myself a LE of the Bulova. Looks better, is an original with heritage and not made of plastic.
This is what I did. The Speedy Pro is my grail watch. Some day. But when these Moonswatch variants were announced, I really wanted one. Was gonna buy like two of them. But there are no Swatch stores near me, you can't buy them online, and I'm not paying over MSRP for a plastic watch. So I got the Bulova Lunar Pilot and I absolutely love it. Such a beautiful dial, feels great on the wrist, and still has that space exploration history associated with it like the Speedy Pro for way cheaper.
@@damiengrief The Omega SpeedMaster is way too expensive. A friend of me has one, a real original one from 1965, so without the stuff about it being the first watch on the moon etc. It's priceless at the moment. He bought it a long time ago for a price that I'd buy one for at this moment too. But now it's north of €20k I believe, so I won't even think about it.
@@songoku-jx3cb There can be many points. Swatch’s marketing has resulted in more Moonwatch sales for Omega. And China is manufacturing 1:1 copies to satisfy the demands of the market due to artificial scarcity.
@@tallon3925 nope the point of artificial scarcity was to create ruckus if this was easily available and anyone could get one it would be useless scarcity is what created this hype Stop acting like the fake watches industry doesnt exist its not limited to moonswatch
I know it’s silly but i find the fake one’s better looking the the original. I love the semi matte texture on the bezel and thinner fonts inside the dial! 😅
The replica watch market has come a long long way. On most luxury brand watches the pros are unable to identify which is real and which is fake. They have to go under the microscope to spot minute differences in details which to the naked eye would not be seen. And I'm talking even the movement.
Precisely. The fake has a flat, matte finish on the bezel; the real version is shinier and textured. You can also note the difference (albeit slight) in the band loops - the real one has a bit of a flatness to it and is also matte, the fake is purely round, smooth, and shiny. There are a ton of other things too, but I'd be waxing poetic.
@@myschevious11 And the fake is better purely due to price point lol. These MoonSwatches are such garbage it's unbelievable that Swatch is charging $300 for these when you can buy a Seiko with far better build quality, better quartz movement for half the price.
This launch left me disgusted with Swatch and Omega. This was a promise broken in a bad way. I was so hyped I saved up to buy every model once they were available online. Now I am left heartbroken and I see these watches as an offence to the common consumer. What started as a boost for both Swatch and Omega ended as a crash and burn that left Swatch looking like amateurs and Omega like they are morons for letting Swatch botch this so badly. Swatch hit the homerun of the century and managed to fuck it up in a way that seems inexplicable. How do you go from the best watch collaboration in the past two centuries too the biggest marketing blunder since claiming lead in fuel is good in a matter of months? Someone in either Swatch or Omega has major brain damage is my best guess.
The very least Swatch could do was offer them online to Swatch club members. They are disregarding customers loyalty over the years in favour of feeding the flippers market. After nearly 40 of buying Swatches I'm out.
True, and as a result, ppl like me, that have a job and friends, with no time to stand in a line for hours, or visit the store for several times, buy a knock off online. Most ppl that buy these at the store have the intention to sell them online. With an online supply this would immediately stop and you wouldn't have long lines at the stores anymore.
Hello from Spain. To distinguish the original from the copy, we can look at the length of the minute marks around 6 o'clock. The original has only 2 long marks between 6 and 7 o'clock, and between 5 and 6 o'clock. The copy has 3 on each side.
I had feared this would happen. We don’t have many Swatch shops in the states so eBay is one of our only options. Pretty scary how close they’ve come…. And with pent up demand I’m sure some people will buy one to hold them over until the real thing.
My replies have hacked this channel. I have written to Tim. I was told I had won a MacBook M1 and their language was nothing like the behaviour Tim would have approved.
At this point you start to think, why not just buy a fake because it proves the real one is just overpriced because other people can make and sell it at a fraction of the price
I bought a real Speedmaster in March, then I saw the Swatch and was amazed. It was a must have. But then I saw how this starts, like some fancy Apple product. So I decided to wait, friends got me a coupon end of May for my birthday. The Swatch store is no help, was there 2 times and they are not able to tell you when they have your preferred model. Ended up in buying a copy from China. So thats a sort of marketing that went wrong IMHO in some parts. And now the guys with the knock offs make their profit. It's not like I was not will to pay the price, but I have no time to visit the shop over and over again.
The other difference is the fake has a removable back, but the original only the small moon comes off for battery changes. The fake also reveals has a fake Renata 394 battery when you take off the small moon, and the real LR920 battery is only accessible if you take the back off.
I got mine today for $30 with postage and no box. looks really really good but the 1/10 second dial doesn't work right. it just repeats the hour hand. In addition, I ordered a metal version. It seems to me that it is more durable than ceramic
Got a couple a 41mm Tiffany OP and a Black GMT 116710LN from swissarex,the GMT is unbelievable, having owned both a Original and the Fake there's no difference at all.
The main tell that you didn't mention that can be spotted from a mile away is simply the 2o'clock dial, which is actually a 24hour dial in the fake. So basically useless when you keep the original 10th of a second design from the original. Not scary so far, until they replace the meca quartz movement with a clone of the swatch movement, then you won't be able to tell the difference.
Yea that's the problem with mine, 2 o'clock dial constantly turns as a new hour passes.. That's really the only call out. Also, there's no "hidden" S in the middle of the plastic crystal. Still looks like a happy meal toy just like the original lol
Swatch shot themselves in the foot with this. Yes the hype is good for them but it’s fuelled the criminals. I personally would not buy a fake as wearing that plastic on your wrist, god knows what chemicals are in it.
I've had the opportunity to study one of these fakes up close - I'll tell you what I found: 1) yes to the box. Flat vs. textured. Shiny vs. bland. Vivid color and detail in planets vs. overcorrected color. Also, on the fake boxes, all of the text on the planets is white, vs. white and black for readability on the original box. Folding style is the same, but is much less precise on the sharpness of the folds than the original box. Also, my box has that same stupid typo... made me laugh out loud! 2) Notes on the band: Text style was ever so slightly different between the two. Cleaner on the original - appeared like the "ink" or paint was put on just a smidge too heavily on the fake. Also definite splotchiness in some of the lettering; a huge factor that would not pass either Omega or Swatches QC requirements. On mine, the stitching was also different between the two. The real one had even thread, evenly spaced out, the seams weren't threaded tightly together. On the fake one, the stitching was overdone. 3) Band loop plastic: Real one has a bit of a matte finish/appearance to it, and has a bit of a flatness along the top/bottom in the shape. The fake one is shiny, and entirely round. 4) Watch face: Real version's bezel is shiny and textured, text is very crisp and clearly printed. There's a definite 3Dness about the lume markers. The fake version's bezel is flat in appearance; no shine, and no texture. Mine also had water/oil stains on it (eyeroll). The lens/crystal on the real one has a slight curvature to the top - it's not flat, and the edges along the bezel are curved fairly smoothly, creating a kaleidoscope type view when moving it at different angles in direct light. The fake version's lens is flat and has a steeper edge to it. You can see the (barely) visible serial number along the bottom (between the "6" point lume and the counter) when you hold the watch in the light. Does not exist on the fake. Neither does the easter egg - the barely visible "S" that's on the real versions. Lume marker at the "12"/"60" point do not line up on the fakes. Even if the fakes have finally started to "nail" the "dot over 90" signature of Omega, they did still fail at that... Hands - obvious differences in the hands. Lume on the real versions extends almost all the way down the length of the hour and minute hands. Not so on the fakes. 5) Watch plastic: Too lightweight by comparison. Also smooth; no texture to it. The real versions have a slight grainy texture to them. Feels like 3D printer plastic, not a ceramic mix. Also, the "lines" (angles) along the various shapes of the case are kinda blurry looking; not as sharp/crisp as they are on the real versions. You noted this when talking about the crown - the angles are very precise along the outside of the crown on the real version; they're "blurred" (sloppy) looking on the fake. The text on the back may say the same info, but it also is "blurred." You can tell it's not imprinted as strongly or crisply on the fake as the real version. That's likely a result of the type of plastic used. Also, you already noted the color tint difference between the two plastics. Spot on. I also had a bunch of edges that weren't clean - they were jagged, or had extra plastic along the molding lines. Again, this would never have passed either company's QC requirements. 6) One last thing to note as I've already overdone this to the point of being past pedantry... The moon which is what covers the battery. Technically, you should be able to remove the moon so you can replace the battery. On the real version, the bioceramic has a very defined gap at the bottom-most point to make that accessible; it also has some "depth" in that there's a lip all the way around. On my fake, that gap barely exists; the moon is literally just a sticker stuck to the back of the case. There is no access. If you read this far... I'm amazed, and thank you. I had fun with this little research project (I am only an amateur collector, but I have collected Swatches since childhood and I have been a long-time desirer of a Moonwatch, so I might be a little obsessed with the details.
" I have been a long-time desirer of a Moonwatch..." Same here. What you said about the fake having a flat crystal is a deal breaker for me. I'm pretty obsessed with the details also. So glad I read your comment. Thanks!
Thanks for this Tim. What makes things more complicated for a buyer is that there are slight variations in the originals themselves. I have 2 Mars watches, both bought from London Oxford St. and Covent Garden and there is a slight difference in the text on the strap (slightly darker black text)
but for a 10th the price, it's a good watch, considering how much Swatch is making a profit. The Chinese Swatch is already making a profit. plastic is plastic. and a quartz timepiece are also not the cost. do you understand. and why can china make them in large quantities. and Swatch Not. can you dig it
You are not wrong. The originals are actually cheaper watches than the replicas. China does not yet have the technology to produce watches that cheaply. The fakes are better, even has a real mineral crystal. As foe the movement there is basically nothing cheaper than what Swatch used.
A $20 watch... the original and the fake. I bought a Mission to Mercury. Thought I was lucky at Swatch London. The glass scratched up within a week and I broke a pusher button off before the first month of wear. It's a fragile plastic toy, not a serious daily wear watch.I bought a solid stainless Seiko diver with automatic movement for the same price and I think it could last a lifetime rather than a few month.
In my opinion the original MoosSwatch is heavily overpriced. I am absolutely no fan of that sort of piracy. But if the can make it for the tenth of the original price I think the MoonSwatch should not cost more then 50 $ or equivalent.
Cant imagine how cool and op they will look on display when the meznen will be finished and all the watches and model cars will be in the glass cabinets... 😅☺🙂🙃
The most obvious thing was missed. The bezel markings at 12 and 6 don't line up. It's so in your face, once you see it, it's impossible to unsee it. Also could you confirm if the FAKE has the "s" etched on the center of crystal as the original does? Thanks for the video Tim.
I noticed many many differences in these, mainly in the case. The copy is probably all plastic with no ceramic. The original case, pushers and crown have that sharp, clean, almost machined look. Same with the text on the case back. You can also see the dial is very different, especially in the glare.
Already lots of fakes online The subdial on the 2 hour position does not work the same as Original Swatch.I will buy the fake.Admire the easy production of the watches and Why pay that much for only a Swatch.Nothing to do with Omega.
Idk but I feel like the shmuseum has more of a garage feel than a museum. I know i know they're still building it but I feel like that's the vibe it will always have
Why didn’t you stack all your cash up to make a table out of it seeing as you’ve got all your cars in the background. Really show off how much cash you have. Maybe do it from your gold plated bathroom
For the differences , one is 250 the other is 30 , which is what it's worth even the plastic orig .. I've got 2 copies no regrets . Even origs have broken buttons , hands not at 0 .. even at 250 not worth it
If you dont want to buy a garbage plastic watch in the first place then it does not matter if there are fakes. You can all do better than a garbage plastic watch.
Hey Tim, great video! I put out a similar one on the fake moonswatches on my channel recently after hearing about a couple of ppl who were sold fakes on eBay thinking they were real - and at the inflated prices being charged by the scalpers of course! Great to know you're a watch guy as well as a car guy and I look forward to more watch content 👍
When the fake becomes better than the real. It’s also a quartz, how difficult is it to clone a quartz. They have no sweeping hand to worry, don’t have a stainless steel case to worry about, and don’t have a bracelet to worry. It’s literally a free reign for people to copy them.
Well, they didn't put an appropriate movement in. TBH, they should have just not bothered putting fake logos on the dial and strap and set the 3 O'clock subdial with 24 hour markings and sold it as a 'lookalike'/'homage' instead of an outright fake - People would still have bought it just to give Swatch the V signs for feeding the scalper market.
What this in fact tells you is what a poorly-made (see Adrian Barker’s video), obscenely over-priced, scalping, piece of plastic hypnotising cynical marketing bs, festival of corporate greed, the homagy MoonSwatch is. That the counterfeit homage of the homage is a tenth of the price (and they’re still making a profit on that) it tells you what complete fools Swatch Group take their customers for. It’s a pure distasteful tacky vulgar money grab by Swatch. And if someone *gave* me a real Omega Speedy Moonwatch, I’d say “thank you” and sell it immediately, spend half the proceeds on heating my home this winter and the rest on a Tudor.
Soooo...what I heard is that you can buy a Chinese knockoff Moon Swatch that is made of similar materials that is almost indistinguishable from the original for 1/10 the price? Swatch's acquisition of Omega is the death of my favorite brand, so sad. DHGate has that Omega/Swatch confab for $25. Oh...and the chrono works. Seems to me like Swatch is trying to cash in on the Speedmaster heritage by offering a version that costs $10 to make and sells for $250. How sad,
Great video and nicely compared as well! Scarily close replica and I like the fact that the 2 o'clock subdial is a 24hr indicator tbh. Yes, 10% less which means you can buy all 10 for the price of one - which are not available at the moment and selling on the grey market for MUCH MUCH more. Whovever is paying those crazy prices are ot of their mind. I've heard from a few collectors that the Omega Moon Swatches cost $7 to manufacture, which is probably what these DHGate ones cost. Looking forward to your Panda Daytona Replica video lol
The one with 10% of the price is probably the real value of the real one..... both have a platic case, cheap glas, rediculous movement... don´t get me wrong its a nice looking watch but not for that price... Maybe i would buy a MoonSwatch for 80-100€ but not more.
You’d almost consider going for the fake one since the real Moonswatch is so hard to obtain. I’ve been to many different Swatch stores on multiple days but never been able to get a hold on the Moonswatch. I’m almost at a point to just give up on searching for one. I wish Swatch will start selling them online soon. I’d never buy a fake watch with the more expensive brands like Rolex or Omega but for a plastic 250 euro watch it would be an option for many people I guess.
I got one for $16 on aliexpress. No way in hell I'd pay scalpers for a real one and I don't live close to a Swatch store so I'm not going to pass up getting one delivered to my door for 5% of the cost. They're both trash, plastic watches so it doesn't matter to me if it's real or fake.
I got so sick of trying to find a moonswatch, so I ended up buying a last gen seamaster 120m chronometer! A piece that i honestly think is slept on! Also side note, I did not know that Schmee loves watches but im glad I came across this channel! I look forward to seeing more!
@@hank1537 I just remembered about these Moonswatches after forgetting about them for months. Started calling around and Yorkdale has them. Wanted one again now that they're available. $378 after tax is such a rip off for this garbage. The amount of reviews i saw with peoples Moonswatches breaking is unreal. I'm glad i was too lazy to wait in long line ups to get these and slept on it. No way im giving Swatch damn near $400 for a watch that costs them $7 to make. There are much better built Seikos, similar design and cheaper by about a $100. Was just about to head over to yorkdale and buy one too, glad i looked up reviews after they've been out for over a year.
I’ve bought a Chinese copy and am awaiting it’s arrival. To me, the moonswatch is just a plastic copy of a Speedmaster so all I’m doing is buying a copy of a copy! Not worth the silly price Swatch want for a bit of plastic!
Excellent video Tim, would love it if you could please do the same with your rolex as there is now AAA+ QUALITY REPLICA out there and the way that you spoke about the both of them and the the way we all got to see your reaction for the first time actually made me visualise much much better, cheers once again Tim. Keep up the good work.
I've seen replicas advertised as 1 to 1. I follow many factories that make fakes cuz they have good products lol. A comparison with a 2022 fake Rolex would be very interesting.
Interesting comparison: I would have liked to seen the comparison of the chrono function. It is well known that the original's function is very shoddy. It ticks just once per second and the Chrono seconds hand misses the markers. There is no excuse for this! This should have been calibrated properly. Also wonder if the crystal on the fake is better than the original which scratches so easily even if you stare it too hard. Wouldn't at all surprised if the fake sports a sapphire?
I ordered a fake Moon as well, to hold me over until Swatch gets their act together. I definitely intend to buy a Real Mars version whenever they become available. The most obvious difference that you haven’t pointed out is that the top-right sundial on the Fake is actually a 24hr indicator… i figured this out when i wasn’t able to re-set the hand in the usual manner for other chronos
but for a 10th the price, it's a good watch, considering how much Swatch is making a profit. The Chinese Swatch is already making a profit. plastic is plastic. and a quartz timepiece are also not the cost. do you understand. and why can china make them in large quantities. and Swatch Not. can you dig it
buy a homage instead, got a pagani design homage and it's way way better than my moonswatch swatch made for half the price. the pagani design speedmaster now comes in moonswatch colors which I highly suggest if you want a watch that lasts for more than a couple of months
Swatch has reported having sold a million of these in less than a year. They also reported having made 90% profit from the sale of the MoonSwatch. If anything, the replica is the honestly priced watch, with only a smidgeon of profit to be had. Likely, the labour and materials cost is lower, so the maker can still eke out a profit. The Chinese are proving the concept that people ought to more closely consider if it is worth the Swiss Made label - and I don't mean replica versus the original. But instead, original Chinese brand watches that feature all of the same materials, detail, mechanical prowess and finishing - at a fraction of the price. People will argue that when buying Chinese watches that you are contributing to unfair labour practices, but they will make that argument whilst wearing Nikes, or Adidas and perhaps use their smartphone to supply their argument with statistics, without seeing the irony of their position. I contend that supporting this emerging sector of Chinese manufacturing helps push the needle in the direction that benefits labour. Investment in Chinese manufacturing will improve the lives of its workers in the same way that Europe and The States improved its labour practices and working conditions a hundred years ago.
Of course the copycats can always make them cheaper became they don't need expensive R&D to come up with original designs and ideas. All you need are machinists...no designers and promotions. These all cost a lot of money. It's always cheaper to reap off the success of another bec you get a free ride.
That’s a good thing. Swatch allows the flippers resell them as a higher price online. The more people have it, real or fake, the more depreciation real one will be. Swatch marketing team sucks
The confuse matters even more, Tim's main difference was the colour of the bio ceramic material but company themselves say that the material is different in colour, there are variations anyway. So colour may not be an obvious indicator.
The replica watch world is getting crazy good, but like most things, the more you pay the higher quality it is. If you go really high end, unless you're an expert it would be very hard to tell, but for the prices of the super high end replica/fake/knock off Rolex/omega/AP/whatever, you can normally buy a reasonably high end watch from another luxury brand such as Oris, Hamilton, longines, rado. Then the homage world has seen similar developments over the last few years too, the quality of the work and materials used in some homages is really quite impressive.
another squillionaire trying to get into watches lololololol, gets boring now... im guessing you emailed every watch manufacturer and asked to be an ambassador then went with the one that said yes haha
The copies are a better idea of what the price should have been for a plastic watch. The Omega connection is not really there in any part of the quality.
I orderd a fake one and it has the 1/10 sec dial at two o'clock position, but it just turnes with the hour dial but not while using the stop watch functions......am I alone?
Fake is better made than the original and you’re pocketing over $200. The experts couldn’t tell the difference because the Chinese are now so skilled at making copies you wouldn’t be embarrassed to wear in public! In overpricing the MoonSwatch, Swatch opened the door for people who either didn’t want to wait, who couldn’t be bothered to pay full retail price or who simply wanted a homage to the Speedmaster fo get theirs for a discount! The hype was simply too much of a good thing.
Thanks for the video, you missed a big functional difference between the fake and the real one, the 1/10th of a second dial on the original actually counts tenths of a second like a real Speedmaster does, but on the fake it just rotates every 12 hours, geared to the main hour hand. (The dial top right, should count tenths of a second when the Tachymeter function is used, top push button). Then you can time to tenths of a second, the fake will not do that.
Doubt there’s any difference between the two. Both prob cost about 4 quid to make. Just the deliberately engineered demand means idiots will pay obscene prices for what is effectively a plastic piece of crap worthy only of a prize in a Christmas Cracker.
Ziarex have best clones but never in stock :(
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@RitaSano-tz4wyhonestly, this plastic watch is not work the asking price. I completely believe this watch is fine to buy a replica.
If you are buying fake Rolexes, that is not right. Cringy and dishonest. This plastic watch isn’t the same situation.
@@arercee5528 One fake watch is ok but another is not? lmao come on
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the genuine article probably cost $5 to produce, and the copy about $8 (better component parts).
I don’t doubt it that both the copy and the original are extremely cheap to manufacture, but what makes you think that the copy is more expansive? Just from this video you can see the discoloration on the plastics.
@@m4t7eo the movement in some of these copies are actually Japanese seiko movements and that’s what Larry might be referring to
Actually since (I am told) the “mechanism” or “movement” (lol 😂) is a tad more expensive and arguably better “ quality” in the fake, the fake is the one to collect. Not the Swatch. Omega need to take a good long hard look at themselves. I’ll never buy an Omega now, like I would never have bought a Swatch.
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@@iaingraham7276 agree
I BOUGHT THE FAKE. My way of giving Swatch the middle finger. I waited all night in line for only 70 available pieces went to store many time and nothing. Wearing a fake 250 plastic watch is not flexing not the same as a fake Rolex. All my watch friends geeks think the same ..Swatch fkd up not making them easily available to everyone as they promised online..
how do we buy the fake?
Where did you buy it
@@rickdeckard7470 send link
Same here. Bought one, cause I have no time to wait. And I also say FU! to the ppl who try to make money with them.
@@rickdeckard7470 can you send me a Link for the Watch?
i mean the fake watchmakers from swissarex are so innovative that they can make an actual rolex with less money, and profit!yt
The scariest part is that there are people out there trying to sell those silly happy meal toys for 900 bucks.
Perhaps the scariest part is that there might be people willing to pay 900 bucks.
@@jeffbrown2982 They would have to be a real Schmuck
There has been reports of these going for over 5000 bucks.
Just like selling GMT Masters II for 21k$
Supply and demand baby 😉
The moonswatch is in that rare club in which the original watch is so bad that the replica is essentially comparable, and may even be superior, to the original.
Fake has the same movement with a better warranty
@@purelyfixedyyc4039 Just don't get it wet. LOL
What other watches fit that criteria?
I know it's iconic but the SKX, most Seikos actually.
@@williamsipe1151 yeah the skx had its run but i dont get why people still insist on It since you can get better diver from the other japanese watches.
So it poses a moral dilemma to some to buy a rep from swissarex that is same as original watch rather than supporting a Swiss non-profit with huge mark-up that benefits charities in one of the richest countries on earth, while they already sell everything they make without a problem? Okay fine, buy the genuine article. It won’t be any more accurate, durable or attractive, nor will anyone notice or care. It's your money, do what you want. Don’t get me wrong, I believe in paying homage to the original designers and/or founders, but they are long gone. I mean, if you’re driving an Escalade, you own a rebadged Tahoe. The badge only means so much, so why not just state what it’s really meant to represent? Steinhart and the rep factories are both selling clones but only one is honest about what they're copying.
I’ve had one and not impressed with it one little bit. Have gave it to my teenager to wear, she likes it. The copy is probably better than the original. They are so over priced for what they are. I get a better thrill wearing my casioak!
The Casioak is really a joy to wear! I enjoy wearing it! Just too lovely!
Tim, your addiction to material things and spiritual depravity is nauseating
The moonswatch scratches so easily
@@alexkane84 Who is Tim? Grammar dear boy and concentrate on your own materialistic little world. Tatty bye 👋🏼
It is what it is, cheap rubbish. It hasn't elevated the kudos of Swatch one bit, but it's certainly lowered the prestige of Omega, big time!
The actual scary thing is, that the Copy houses the superior movement - a Seiko 7T62. The ETA chrono V8 (in the original) ticks and misses the marks pretty much all the time. The copy however manages to have an actual sweep chrono like a real mechanical to messure time 5 times a second, where as the ETA only 1 time per second. For 1p times the price, that is disappointing ..... very sad.
(Update - its a Sunon PE50, not Seiko)
I doubt that the fakes have a Seiko movement, especially an old one like that, the subdial layout on that one is wrong for the Moonswatch. The more expensive ones maybe have a Miyota JS00 or Seiko VR34 or VK68 but the cheaper ones (25£ around there) most likely have a cheap Sunon PE50. They are cheap to replace and since you can open the fake (unlike the original) you can even do that yourself.
@@Sapetoku1 Indeed. A PE50. I am amazed. Must say. The sweep does it for me ;) Helps me with my OCD. Thank you for the insight!
The movement used for the fake watch I own also sweeps and has a 24h dial function at three o clock, the real one measures 1/10sec with the chronograph running. Also, there are more than one manufacturer of these fakes and color can vary, mine looks even closer to the original.
@@SkinnyAl83 where did you get it?
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If you want a real moonwatch, but don't have/don't want to spend the money on an Omega, you could also look for a Bulova Lunar Pilot. This is as much a moonwatch as the Omega, but nobody knows about it. I opted for the Bulova, since I don't want to be a slave to the Swatch store where I have to go every week to see if there's stock, and in the end, you just have a plastic watch without any heritage. It just looks a bit like a moonwatch, but it's nothing. And it's plastic with a fancy name, and a scratchy plastic 'glass'.
Somebody commented that Swatch employed the Apple marketing tactic by creating a shortage and a lot of hype, and it worked. Hats off to Swatch. I was tempted to buy one, but I resisted in the end and got myself a LE of the Bulova. Looks better, is an original with heritage and not made of plastic.
The biggest problem with the Bulova Moonwatch is the sheer size of it. The made it ways to big. I only would use it on my desk on a holder
This is what I did. The Speedy Pro is my grail watch. Some day. But when these Moonswatch variants were announced, I really wanted one. Was gonna buy like two of them. But there are no Swatch stores near me, you can't buy them online, and I'm not paying over MSRP for a plastic watch. So I got the Bulova Lunar Pilot and I absolutely love it. Such a beautiful dial, feels great on the wrist, and still has that space exploration history associated with it like the Speedy Pro for way cheaper.
@@damiengrief The Omega SpeedMaster is way too expensive. A friend of me has one, a real original one from 1965, so without the stuff about it being the first watch on the moon etc. It's priceless at the moment. He bought it a long time ago for a price that I'd buy one for at this moment too. But now it's north of €20k I believe, so I won't even think about it.
@@elmarpodiebrad9570 That's true - The only watch I've felt was TOO big. Shame as it's a great watch, otherwise.
I tried the bulova, I hated the size. I passed on it because of that. I do own an Orient Neo 70 and the moonswatch.
This is what happens when companies put artificial limitations on items, China makes 1:1 copies for 20% of the price and sell more than the real one
Missed the point omega did this for marketing and see the amount of ruckus it created
@@songoku-jx3cb There can be many points. Swatch’s marketing has resulted in more Moonwatch sales for Omega. And China is manufacturing 1:1 copies to satisfy the demands of the market due to artificial scarcity.
@@tallon3925 nope the point of artificial scarcity was to create ruckus if this was easily available and anyone could get one it would be useless scarcity is what created this hype
Stop acting like the fake watches industry doesnt exist its not limited to moonswatch
@@songoku-jx3cb You’re arguing with nobody
I know it’s silly but i find the fake one’s better looking the the original. I love the semi matte texture on the bezel and thinner fonts inside the dial! 😅
The replica watch market has come a long long way. On most luxury brand watches the pros are unable to identify which is real and which is fake. They have to go under the microscope to spot minute differences in details which to the naked eye would not be seen. And I'm talking even the movement.
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This is exactly why dealers are refusing to buy second hand panerais without paper work now as they cannot tell the difference.
you can quickly notice the difference between the two. The real one has better color density and its finish is closer to a 50$ Timex
Precisely. The fake has a flat, matte finish on the bezel; the real version is shinier and textured. You can also note the difference (albeit slight) in the band loops - the real one has a bit of a flatness to it and is also matte, the fake is purely round, smooth, and shiny.
There are a ton of other things too, but I'd be waxing poetic.
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@@myschevious11 And the fake is better purely due to price point lol. These MoonSwatches are such garbage it's unbelievable that Swatch is charging $300 for these when you can buy a Seiko with far better build quality, better quartz movement for half the price.
This launch left me disgusted with Swatch and Omega. This was a promise broken in a bad way. I was so hyped I saved up to buy every model once they were available online. Now I am left heartbroken and I see these watches as an offence to the common consumer. What started as a boost for both Swatch and Omega ended as a crash and burn that left Swatch looking like amateurs and Omega like they are morons for letting Swatch botch this so badly. Swatch hit the homerun of the century and managed to fuck it up in a way that seems inexplicable. How do you go from the best watch collaboration in the past two centuries too the biggest marketing blunder since claiming lead in fuel is good in a matter of months? Someone in either Swatch or Omega has major brain damage is my best guess.
The very least Swatch could do was offer them online to Swatch club members. They are disregarding customers loyalty over the years in favour of feeding the flippers market. After nearly 40 of buying Swatches I'm out.
I do suspect Omega wasn't given a choice :(
Heartbroken? Grow up!
@@ams54321 agreed. It sucks they screwed it up, but saying you're heartbroken over a crappy plastic watch is a bit pitiful.
True, and as a result, ppl like me, that have a job and friends, with no time to stand in a line for hours, or visit the store for several times, buy a knock off online. Most ppl that buy these at the store have the intention to sell them online. With an online supply this would immediately stop and you wouldn't have long lines at the stores anymore.
Hello from Spain. To distinguish the original from the copy, we can look at the length of the minute marks around 6 o'clock. The original has only 2 long marks between 6 and 7 o'clock, and between 5 and 6 o'clock. The copy has 3 on each side.
Smart pick, I agree, their accuracy on the mark is not spot on/line up with the fake watch
If you need to go down to such tiny detail to spot a fake then a lot of people will just pay $25 for the fake.
I had feared this would happen. We don’t have many Swatch shops in the states so eBay is one of our only options. Pretty scary how close they’ve come…. And with pent up demand I’m sure some people will buy one to hold them over until the real thing.
Was literally going to waste my money and pay a premium for a listing on eBay and this video popped up right before. Will not be buying one anymore.
Hi Nick, after Tim’s warning I will not be buying from eBay online or anywhere else. Swatch quality or nothing. David
My replies have hacked this channel. I have written to Tim. I was told I had won a MacBook M1 and their language was nothing like the behaviour Tim would have approved.
@@davidthegolfer those are scammers don't message them lol.
@@davidthegolfer Check out Adrian Barker's video on his broken MoonSwatch... ua-cam.com/video/sfJd5UE0NMQ/v-deo.html
Chinese version is actually better quality !! And readily available to buy online. Buy the chinese version and stick 2 fingers up at swatch 😆 🤣 lol
At this point you start to think, why not just buy a fake because it proves the real one is just overpriced because other people can make and sell it at a fraction of the price
My man, your comments section is now an advertisement for a illegal watch replica company.
I bought a real Speedmaster in March, then I saw the Swatch and was amazed. It was a must have. But then I saw how this starts, like some fancy Apple product. So I decided to wait, friends got me a coupon end of May for my birthday. The Swatch store is no help, was there 2 times and they are not able to tell you when they have your preferred model. Ended up in buying a copy from China. So thats a sort of marketing that went wrong IMHO in some parts. And now the guys with the knock offs make their profit. It's not like I was not will to pay the price, but I have no time to visit the shop over and over again.
where do you got your Chinamodell? Kind of in the same situation :D
What’s the price you paid for the piece?
@@keyurjadav619 around 34 Euros. Think it's possible for less.
@@Lowrider2905 any advice where to look for one?
@@theguenterFB Aliexpress
The other difference is the fake has a removable back, but the original only the small moon comes off for battery changes. The fake also reveals has a fake Renata 394 battery when you take off the small moon, and the real LR920 battery is only accessible if you take the back off.
I got mine today for $30 with postage and no box. looks really really good but the 1/10 second dial doesn't work right. it just repeats the hour hand. In addition, I ordered a metal version. It seems to me that it is more durable than ceramic
Mine has the same problem with the 1/10 dial
@@ginsengroot815where can you get one?
I spot that even the original watch is total crap, save your money
Got a couple a 41mm Tiffany OP and a Black GMT 116710LN from swissarex,the GMT is unbelievable, having owned both a Original and the Fake there's no difference at all.
Are we just gonna ignore the fact that this guy has a car collection worth more than the gdp of Nicaragua?
The main tell that you didn't mention that can be spotted from a mile away is simply the 2o'clock dial, which is actually a 24hour dial in the fake. So basically useless when you keep the original 10th of a second design from the original. Not scary so far, until they replace the meca quartz movement with a clone of the swatch movement, then you won't be able to tell the difference.
Yea that's the problem with mine, 2 o'clock dial constantly turns as a new hour passes.. That's really the only call out. Also, there's no "hidden" S in the middle of the plastic crystal. Still looks like a happy meal toy just like the original lol
the one i have has the s in the glass
The fake is better quality than the original 😮😂
Swatch shot themselves in the foot with this.
Yes the hype is good for them but it’s fuelled the criminals.
I personally would not buy a fake as wearing that plastic on your wrist, god knows what chemicals are in it.
The real ones already stain your arm so prob no difference
@@BabyJesus66 Lol yeah, the real question is why are you buying a moonswatch in the first place be it fake or real.
@@Microwave414 I liked them just as like brand swag, like having an Omega/Swatch T shirt or hat... but they're definitely overpriced trash.
Lmaaaoo imagine making a fake of a swatch watch lolol.
I've had the opportunity to study one of these fakes up close - I'll tell you what I found:
1) yes to the box. Flat vs. textured. Shiny vs. bland. Vivid color and detail in planets vs. overcorrected color. Also, on the fake boxes, all of the text on the planets is white, vs. white and black for readability on the original box. Folding style is the same, but is much less precise on the sharpness of the folds than the original box. Also, my box has that same stupid typo... made me laugh out loud!
2) Notes on the band: Text style was ever so slightly different between the two. Cleaner on the original - appeared like the "ink" or paint was put on just a smidge too heavily on the fake. Also definite splotchiness in some of the lettering; a huge factor that would not pass either Omega or Swatches QC requirements. On mine, the stitching was also different between the two. The real one had even thread, evenly spaced out, the seams weren't threaded tightly together. On the fake one, the stitching was overdone.
3) Band loop plastic: Real one has a bit of a matte finish/appearance to it, and has a bit of a flatness along the top/bottom in the shape. The fake one is shiny, and entirely round.
4) Watch face:
Real version's bezel is shiny and textured, text is very crisp and clearly printed. There's a definite 3Dness about the lume markers. The fake version's bezel is flat in appearance; no shine, and no texture. Mine also had water/oil stains on it (eyeroll).
The lens/crystal on the real one has a slight curvature to the top - it's not flat, and the edges along the bezel are curved fairly smoothly, creating a kaleidoscope type view when moving it at different angles in direct light. The fake version's lens is flat and has a steeper edge to it.
You can see the (barely) visible serial number along the bottom (between the "6" point lume and the counter) when you hold the watch in the light. Does not exist on the fake.
Neither does the easter egg - the barely visible "S" that's on the real versions.
Lume marker at the "12"/"60" point do not line up on the fakes. Even if the fakes have finally started to "nail" the "dot over 90" signature of Omega, they did still fail at that...
Hands - obvious differences in the hands. Lume on the real versions extends almost all the way down the length of the hour and minute hands. Not so on the fakes.
5) Watch plastic: Too lightweight by comparison. Also smooth; no texture to it. The real versions have a slight grainy texture to them. Feels like 3D printer plastic, not a ceramic mix. Also, the "lines" (angles) along the various shapes of the case are kinda blurry looking; not as sharp/crisp as they are on the real versions. You noted this when talking about the crown - the angles are very precise along the outside of the crown on the real version; they're "blurred" (sloppy) looking on the fake. The text on the back may say the same info, but it also is "blurred." You can tell it's not imprinted as strongly or crisply on the fake as the real version. That's likely a result of the type of plastic used. Also, you already noted the color tint difference between the two plastics. Spot on. I also had a bunch of edges that weren't clean - they were jagged, or had extra plastic along the molding lines. Again, this would never have passed either company's QC requirements.
6) One last thing to note as I've already overdone this to the point of being past pedantry... The moon which is what covers the battery. Technically, you should be able to remove the moon so you can replace the battery. On the real version, the bioceramic has a very defined gap at the bottom-most point to make that accessible; it also has some "depth" in that there's a lip all the way around. On my fake, that gap barely exists; the moon is literally just a sticker stuck to the back of the case. There is no access.
If you read this far... I'm amazed, and thank you. I had fun with this little research project (I am only an amateur collector, but I have collected Swatches since childhood and I have been a long-time desirer of a Moonwatch, so I might be a little obsessed with the details.
Where did you get it from?
@@alexmakrigiannis One of the many fakes floating around on Ebay.
" I have been a long-time desirer of a Moonwatch..." Same here. What you said about the fake having a flat crystal is a deal breaker for me. I'm pretty obsessed with the details also. So glad I read your comment. Thanks!
I own a swatch previously but for this swatch×omega didnt worth its price. You can buy a decent watch with a metal case on that pricepoint
Thanks for this Tim. What makes things more complicated for a buyer is that there are slight variations in the originals themselves. I have 2 Mars watches, both bought from London Oxford St. and Covent Garden and there is a slight difference in the text on the strap (slightly darker black text)
MAYBE there are no variations...
Biggest tell is the 2 o’clock subdial. On the fake this is actually a 24hr subdial - not a tenth of a second like the original.
but for a 10th the price, it's a good watch, considering how much Swatch is making a profit. The Chinese Swatch is already making a profit. plastic is plastic. and a quartz timepiece are also not the cost. do you understand. and why can china make them in large quantities. and Swatch Not. can you dig it
I dont understand swatches and why they may be desirable. It's essentially a cheap quartz watch or am I wrong?
You are not wrong. The originals are actually cheaper watches than the replicas. China does not yet have the technology to produce watches that cheaply. The fakes are better, even has a real mineral crystal. As foe the movement there is basically nothing cheaper than what Swatch used.
@@rustknuckleirongut8107 thank u
A $20 watch... the original and the fake. I bought a Mission to Mercury. Thought I was lucky at Swatch London. The glass scratched up within a week and I broke a pusher button off before the first month of wear. It's a fragile plastic toy, not a serious daily wear watch.I bought a solid stainless Seiko diver with automatic movement for the same price and I think it could last a lifetime rather than a few month.
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The movement used for the fake watch has a 24h dial function at three o clock, the real one measures 1/10sec with the chronograph running.
In my opinion the original MoosSwatch is heavily overpriced. I am absolutely no fan of that sort of piracy. But if the can make it for the tenth of the original price I think the MoonSwatch should not cost more then 50 $ or equivalent.
Some of the fakes are better quality than the originals. They have metal cases and actual glass crystal not plastic that scratches easily.
rubbish.
No they dont🤣
Funny that the fake is better than the original lmao
Cant imagine how cool and op they will look on display when the meznen will be finished and all the watches and model cars will be in the glass cabinets... 😅☺🙂🙃
The entire project was a marketing exercise that buyers bought into instead of buying dozens of amazing watches.
The most obvious thing was missed. The bezel markings at 12 and 6 don't line up. It's so in your face, once you see it, it's impossible to unsee it. Also could you confirm if the FAKE has the "s" etched on the center of crystal as the original does? Thanks for the video Tim.
Funny isn't it! The point basically, is that it's not ever going to pass for a real one.
How do you create an almost perfect duplicate box and still misspell “low” 🤦🏽
I noticed many many differences in these, mainly in the case. The copy is probably all plastic with no ceramic. The original case, pushers and crown have that sharp, clean, almost machined look. Same with the text on the case back.
You can also see the dial is very different, especially in the glare.
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ironically some copies have a more durable case and a mineral crystal, a Sunon PE50 movement which is service'able compared to the original
Already lots of fakes online The subdial on the 2 hour position does not work the same as Original Swatch.I will buy the fake.Admire the easy production of the watches and Why pay that much for only a Swatch.Nothing to do with Omega.
Idk but I feel like the shmuseum has more of a garage feel than a museum. I know i know they're still building it but I feel like that's the vibe it will always have
Why didn’t you stack all your cash up to make a table out of it seeing as you’ve got all your cars in the background. Really show off how much cash you have. Maybe do it from your gold plated bathroom
More interestingly. When did you get your Neptune? Has it started restocking?
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For the differences , one is 250 the other is 30 , which is what it's worth even the plastic orig .. I've got 2 copies no regrets . Even origs have broken buttons , hands not at 0 .. even at 250 not worth it
one of the things I notice on the fake watch is that the logo sits further down than on the original
The scary thing is you proved nothing😅
So many reviews against the original MoonSwatch make you wonder where can I get the fake ones?
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If you dont want to buy a garbage plastic watch in the first place then it does not matter if there are fakes. You can all do better than a garbage plastic watch.
Hey Tim, great video! I put out a similar one on the fake moonswatches on my channel recently after hearing about a couple of ppl who were sold fakes on eBay thinking they were real - and at the inflated prices being charged by the scalpers of course!
Great to know you're a watch guy as well as a car guy and I look forward to more watch content 👍
I hate to say it but since I couldn't afford a real one right now I would love to buy one of these fakes. I wonder where to get one ... lol
Lol. Freely available on Aliexpress.
When the fake becomes better than the real. It’s also a quartz, how difficult is it to clone a quartz. They have no sweeping hand to worry, don’t have a stainless steel case to worry about, and don’t have a bracelet to worry. It’s literally a free reign for people to copy them.
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Well, they didn't put an appropriate movement in. TBH, they should have just not bothered putting fake logos on the dial and strap and set the 3 O'clock subdial with 24 hour markings and sold it as a 'lookalike'/'homage' instead of an outright fake - People would still have bought it just to give Swatch the V signs for feeding the scalper market.
What this in fact tells you is what a poorly-made (see Adrian Barker’s video), obscenely over-priced, scalping, piece of plastic hypnotising cynical marketing bs, festival of corporate greed, the homagy MoonSwatch is.
That the counterfeit homage of the homage is a tenth of the price (and they’re still making a profit on that) it tells you what complete fools Swatch Group take their customers for. It’s a pure distasteful tacky vulgar money grab by Swatch.
And if someone *gave* me a real Omega Speedy Moonwatch, I’d say “thank you” and sell it immediately, spend half the proceeds on heating my home this winter and the rest on a Tudor.
This is the variety we want from this channel, thanks tim
Glad you enjoy it!
Soooo...what I heard is that you can buy a Chinese knockoff Moon Swatch that is made of similar materials that is almost indistinguishable from the original for 1/10 the price? Swatch's acquisition of Omega is the death of my favorite brand, so sad. DHGate has that Omega/Swatch confab for $25. Oh...and the chrono works. Seems to me like Swatch is trying to cash in on the Speedmaster heritage by offering a version that costs $10 to make and sells for $250. How sad,
Great video and nicely compared as well! Scarily close replica and I like the fact that the 2 o'clock subdial is a 24hr indicator tbh. Yes, 10% less which means you can buy all 10 for the price of one - which are not available at the moment and selling on the grey market for MUCH MUCH more. Whovever is paying those crazy prices are ot of their mind. I've heard from a few collectors that the Omega Moon Swatches cost $7 to manufacture, which is probably what these DHGate ones cost. Looking forward to your Panda Daytona Replica video lol
The one with 10% of the price is probably the real value of the real one..... both have a platic case, cheap glas, rediculous movement... don´t get me wrong its a nice looking watch but not for that price... Maybe i would buy a MoonSwatch for 80-100€ but not more.
You’d almost consider going for the fake one since the real Moonswatch is so hard to obtain. I’ve been to many different Swatch stores on multiple days but never been able to get a hold on the Moonswatch. I’m almost at a point to just give up on searching for one. I wish Swatch will start selling them online soon.
I’d never buy a fake watch with the more expensive brands like Rolex or Omega but for a plastic 250 euro watch it would be an option for many people I guess.
I got one for $16 on aliexpress. No way in hell I'd pay scalpers for a real one and I don't live close to a Swatch store so I'm not going to pass up getting one delivered to my door for 5% of the cost. They're both trash, plastic watches so it doesn't matter to me if it's real or fake.
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I got so sick of trying to find a moonswatch, so I ended up buying a last gen seamaster 120m chronometer! A piece that i honestly think is slept on! Also side note, I did not know that Schmee loves watches but im glad I came across this channel! I look forward to seeing more!
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Great choice. I was in the same boat. Finally found a Pluto at my swatch store in Toronto yesterday.
Lol
I just bought 10€ watch, does exacly same thing as seamaster and doesn't matter if it brakes or loses.
@@hank1537 I just remembered about these Moonswatches after forgetting about them for months. Started calling around and Yorkdale has them. Wanted one again now that they're available. $378 after tax is such a rip off for this garbage. The amount of reviews i saw with peoples Moonswatches breaking is unreal. I'm glad i was too lazy to wait in long line ups to get these and slept on it. No way im giving Swatch damn near $400 for a watch that costs them $7 to make. There are much better built Seikos, similar design and cheaper by about a $100. Was just about to head over to yorkdale and buy one too, glad i looked up reviews after they've been out for over a year.
I’ve bought a Chinese copy and am awaiting it’s arrival. To me, the moonswatch is just a plastic copy of a Speedmaster so all I’m doing is buying a copy of a copy! Not worth the silly price Swatch want for a bit of plastic!
Excellent video Tim, would love it if you could please do the same with your rolex as there is now AAA+ QUALITY REPLICA out there and the way that you spoke about the both of them and the the way we all got to see your reaction for the first time actually made me visualise much much better, cheers once again Tim.
Keep up the good work.
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I've seen replicas advertised as 1 to 1. I follow many factories that make fakes cuz they have good products lol. A comparison with a 2022 fake Rolex would be very interesting.
TRUMP likes your swatches.
Interesting comparison: I would have liked to seen the comparison of the chrono function. It is well known that the original's function is very shoddy. It ticks just once per second and the Chrono seconds hand misses the markers. There is no excuse for this! This should have been calibrated properly. Also wonder if the crystal on the fake is better than the original which scratches so easily even if you stare it too hard. Wouldn't at all surprised if the fake sports a sapphire?
they're just quartz swatches with omega branding
Fake watch chronos are always broken, unless you pay $1000 of usd for high-end fake rolex.
I can't believe you didn't remove the back to show how different the fake is from the real watch.
Oh, brother, a fake Swatch. It's like a counterfeit Yugo.
I ordered a fake Moon as well, to hold me over until Swatch gets their act together. I definitely intend to buy a Real Mars version whenever they become available. The most obvious difference that you haven’t pointed out is that the top-right sundial on the Fake is actually a 24hr indicator… i figured this out when i wasn’t able to re-set the hand in the usual manner for other chronos
but for a 10th the price, it's a good watch, considering how much Swatch is making a profit. The Chinese Swatch is already making a profit. plastic is plastic. and a quartz timepiece are also not the cost. do you understand. and why can china make them in large quantities. and Swatch Not. can you dig it
buy a homage instead, got a pagani design homage and it's way way better than my moonswatch swatch made for half the price.
the pagani design speedmaster now comes in moonswatch colors which I highly suggest if you want a watch that lasts for more than a couple of months
Swatch has reported having sold a million of these in less than a year. They also reported having made 90% profit from the sale of the MoonSwatch. If anything, the replica is the honestly priced watch, with only a smidgeon of profit to be had. Likely, the labour and materials cost is lower, so the maker can still eke out a profit.
The Chinese are proving the concept that people ought to more closely consider if it is worth the Swiss Made label - and I don't mean replica versus the original. But instead, original Chinese brand watches that feature all of the same materials, detail, mechanical prowess and finishing - at a fraction of the price. People will argue that when buying Chinese watches that you are contributing to unfair labour practices, but they will make that argument whilst wearing Nikes, or Adidas and perhaps use their smartphone to supply their argument with statistics, without seeing the irony of their position.
I contend that supporting this emerging sector of Chinese manufacturing helps push the needle in the direction that benefits labour. Investment in Chinese manufacturing will improve the lives of its workers in the same way that Europe and The States improved its labour practices and working conditions a hundred years ago.
Of course the copycats can always make them cheaper became they don't need expensive R&D to come up with original designs and ideas. All you need are machinists...no designers and promotions. These all cost a lot of money.
It's always cheaper to reap off the success of another bec you get a free ride.
That’s a good thing. Swatch allows the flippers resell them as a higher price online. The more people have it, real or fake, the more depreciation real one will be. Swatch marketing team sucks
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The confuse matters even more, Tim's main difference was the colour of the bio ceramic material but company themselves say that the material is different in colour, there are variations anyway. So colour may not be an obvious indicator.
The replica watch world is getting crazy good, but like most things, the more you pay the higher quality it is.
If you go really high end, unless you're an expert it would be very hard to tell, but for the prices of the super high end replica/fake/knock off Rolex/omega/AP/whatever, you can normally buy a reasonably high end watch from another luxury brand such as Oris, Hamilton, longines, rado.
Then the homage world has seen similar developments over the last few years too, the quality of the work and materials used in some homages is really quite impressive.
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another squillionaire trying to get into watches lololololol, gets boring now... im guessing you emailed every watch manufacturer and asked to be an ambassador then went with the one that said yes haha
Can’t order online the real MoonSwatch. I guess I’ll get the 25 bucks one ✌️
They are both cheap crap, so where do we find the ripoff one?? It sounds like a real savings at no sacrifice of quality!
We are talking about shi...y watches, Is not a Rolex not an Omega, plastic made both in china
The copies are a better idea of what the price should have been for a plastic watch. The Omega connection is not really there in any part of the quality.
Considering people never went to the Moon to begin with,Omega was the original faker in terms of the watch itself.
A fake of a plastic watch with a quartz movement that is cheaply made?
Is this still the same planet? 😄
OMG, fakes of £250 watches, unbelievable.
Imagine collecting swatch
I prefer the fake because the original for plastic is so expensive ...
I wouldn't spend $260 for real one. I rather spend $25 for fake one.
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The fake ones that are better than the original are like $125.
You better buy that fake one because the real one is just as stupid.
I orderd a fake one and it has the 1/10 sec dial at two o'clock position, but it just turnes with the hour dial but not while using the stop watch functions......am I alone?
The faked one looks better than the ori.,.😂 I m please
A cheap knockoff of a cheap knockoff. Complete garbage
Just shows 1 company is ripping you off and your paying for a name
Where do I get the fake? I own a real, original Speedmaster, so it would be a nice joke to wear the fake of the fake... :-)
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Fake is better made than the original and you’re pocketing over $200. The experts couldn’t tell the difference because the Chinese are now so skilled at making copies you wouldn’t be embarrassed to wear in public! In overpricing the MoonSwatch, Swatch opened the door for people who either didn’t want to wait, who couldn’t be bothered to pay full retail price or who simply wanted a homage to the Speedmaster fo get theirs for a discount! The hype was simply too much of a good thing.
You want a proper space watch get a Russian one.
where did you buy the replica i want it
Thanks for the video, you missed a big functional difference between the fake and the real one, the 1/10th of a second dial on the original actually counts tenths of a second like a real Speedmaster does, but on the fake it just rotates every 12 hours, geared to the main hour hand. (The dial top right, should count tenths of a second when the Tachymeter function is used, top push button). Then you can time to tenths of a second, the fake will not do that.
Is it strange that a cheap watch is easy to copy?
Doubt there’s any difference between the two. Both prob cost about 4 quid to make. Just the deliberately engineered demand means idiots will pay obscene prices for what is effectively a plastic piece of crap worthy only of a prize in a Christmas Cracker.
I promise you the fake cost a lot more to produce.
The copy looks better mate honestly