I believe that it is accurate to say that the person who realistically best embodies Nietzsche's ideals is the slave who rebels against their enslavement. Their worldview and self-view is not limited by any kind of resentment against the slaver or themself, but rather the desire for power over ones own life. They are radically life-affirming in their desire and struggle. They overcome their limitations and gain power.
It's funny how you consider voting a way of avoiding ressentiment, when it's the perfect example of a disciplinary/control institution. If you want to change the system, don't play by its rules because you are doomed to fail. If voting once every 4 years is grabbing life by the horns, we are a little bit fucked right? :) Thanks again for your content, I really appreciate it.
Its so weird how you make Nietzsche sound like an anarcho-leftist... Your interpretation of Nietzsche is so off it hurts. Considering the fact that Nietzsche made it clear that he was into a "Aristocratic ideal" with his ubermensch concept which is the opposjte of "Enjoying life" just for the sake of it. Amor fati is the love of life as it is, the good and the bad. Its an ideal for the "Strong" For him, discipline was the only way for the greater good, to reach the top of the Mountain.
Let's not forget that N understood progressive history in a much different sense as well, i.e. NOT that with the passage of time society progresses, but instead that individuals who further society make up a scattered archipelago along the timeline of civilization. The conception of a progressive history in the Hegelian sense or Marxist sense is completely antithetical to N's conception! He was certainly no humanist, to say the least, and we would be doing a terrible disservice to N to characterize him as anarcho-leftist!!! N even thought that the body itself was a hierarchical battleground for the multiplicity of forces that constitute it! In all his positive philosophy, N is in no way a leftist in the normative sense. Thank you for your post.
Today I learned Nietzsche discovered and fleshed out C-PTSD over a hundred years before anyone else lmao. Holy shit. Nietzsche is fucking brilliant. I relate SO hard to all of this.
Really appreciate how you tackle complex thinkers and ideas. You present so many concepts in such a straightforward and captivating way . Keep the great content going. We need channels like yours on youtube.
Yeah, as a Conservative, I have to admit, there's plenty of Resentment on BOTH sides of the political spectrum. But, here's an idea: isn't that a problem with Representative Democracy in general? (Not that it isn't otherwise a very good system... but...) The thing is, as long as YOUR party- the party YOU identify with, isn't in power, isn't it almost irresistibly tempting to curl up on yourself, reject your life (in favor of what you wish it was), and say, "If only WE had the power! How dare THEY exclude us!?" This notion of democratic equality only makes it worse! That's where the notion of Resenting the Government & those with Institutional Power comes from- that's why Conspiracy Theories, etc., are so popular! (At least that's my theory!) Some food for thought.
It’s more on the conservative side though. But that’s to be expected. Conservatives want permanence in a world full of change and when things change (as they always do and will) they get resentful and engage in an attitude of burning the ship down with themselves still on it, one final fuck you to the world.
@@wantanamera interesting POV. Where do you see that happening? Not like us Conservatives are perfect- being one kinda makes you feel like a Sports Fan a lot of the time; "How could they DO that!?" But I never have seen THAT particular sort of resentment; conspiracy theories- yes; burning the house down... when??
Hi, I discovered your channel and I love these presentations - great work! I think the popularity of Nietzsche is a result of the many ways one can interpret his text. He offers no complete system and criticizes almost everyone. From fascist to anarchist, everyone seems to find something compelling. Some people think his Übermensch is a dominant leader some others point to the misunderstood artist. The same seems to be true with his concept of Ressentiment. I would love to hear some sort of comparison between Nietzsche, Camus, and Kierkegaard. Kierkegaard's Knight of Death reminds me of Nietzsche's Übermensch. Would Nietzsche say Camus "living without appeal" is some sort of Ressentiment? Camus also talks about the "revolt against the meaningless of life", which fits the Nietzschean spirit?
Wonderfully clear exposition of an aspect of Nietzsche's philosophy I was unaware of. Re your request for further angles on ressentiment: I came to your site after reading an academic paper arguing that ressentiment was the key driver of the Incel movement. I was shocked by how much of what you said described the symptoms of ressentiment. Maybe worth exploring further? And of course the outcome of the 2024 US election offers further reasons for talking about it. Unfortunately.
I hope you take this as constructive criticism rather than offense, but forgo the need to insert your biases when explaining another man’s philosophy. In an attempt to explain neitzche’s thoughts you twisted them into your own view of how they should be interpreted. If that in itself wasn’t bad enough, you reduced a great man’s incredibly complex philosophy into nothing more than an advertisement for a vague off brand version of hedonism. This is without even mentioning the reductionist almost childish juxtaposition you tried to hammer in. This is a philosophy channel, your viewers are much more analytical than those who would flog at the mention of buzzwords and semblance of perceived progressiveness. If you have any desire to be taken seriously (no offense) i’d advise you to start stepping into the grey area instead of being so black and white. I apologize for being harsh, but this in my opinion, was a terrible analysis.
This issue is so important (and group resentment ("herd") and its consequences) that more studies (and videos) on the topic would be interesting. I am grateful in advance. (I'm a new subscriber to the channel).
Not really. Hegel affords much more opportunity (albeit abstractly) to the bondsman than Nietzsche does to the oppressed. The bondsman is open to change whereas the subject of ressentiment is foreclosed to change by their own accord
@@jorgemachado5317 Yeah, watch like the first 6 or 7, it's not super interesting and the audio quality sucks tho, so maybe take notes or do some monotonous task while you listen, great info tho and very easy to digest, especially if you account what is being discussed.
Using Nietzsche as a tool for left wing propaganda? Now I've seen everything. But then it goes to show that the posibilities of interpretation are truly infinite.
The Elephants call Nazties leftists even though both Parties believe the same things, so I reckon that maybe the political spectrum depends on who is defining the vocabulary?
nice. except I am the creator of values. leftism has set itself as victim and martyr. it is ressentiment. it goes down and insists all do so in the interest of recent redefinitions of equality/equity. we are not nor have ever been been equal. nor ever will be. we are are individually unique in any given sphere we are blessed to exist in. i appreciate your lucidity into historic Nietzsche.
I think that mention of Slave mentality , the fact that those who cultivate resentment become passive aggressive and ugly and nietzisché’s analysis oh how the Christian’s managed to subvert the Roman empire through getting the Romans to adopt their masochistic moral principles would all be interesting to explore. I was pro sanders but am not sure that mixing presentations on philosophical subjects with political proselytizing is the most felicitous mixture.
Good video, yet Nietzsche does not see that self-denial brings the greatest joys indeed. His lack of understanding where and how deeper joys arise demonstrates his lack of experiencing them ...perhaps. Just a thought. Love yall
Vote left? 🤣 How you liking that decision now? Smoking, alcohol, (drugs?) brings joy? Never smoked anything, never cared to…joy and happiness is different for people. What one person sees as suffering by not partaking in joyous things depends on what things they feel are joyous.
Thanks for the video...I guess presumptions I'm hearing is that inherent in self is the ability to find actualized joy. If that is not reality, if the order of the universe is that self can actually be one of the biggest hurdles to joy, how does that affect these views? Love, community, relationships with sincere consideration of the other in absence of self cannot be possible if self is ruling. Seems that way in my head. Can a parent raise a fully dependent baby if they operate on self-will and decide they don't care about the needs of the child to survive anymore because their desires matter more? Maybe a bigger question is what leads to joy? Why do some reach the heights of self-expression, creativity, fame, money then want to kill themselves/overdose (musicians, actors)? That would seem to imply finding an identity on self-promotion, self-importance, self-worship is not the path to joy. I personally have not experienced that my indulgence in whatever self wants has left me more fulfilled. Often its more empty, even self-destructive. So that seems to tell me that self can be an impediment to my own joy, and some level of restraining self can actually open me up to receive love, promote in me a desire to love, and experience joy. What does it mean to self-sacrifice, and is there joy in that?
"There are no moral phenomena only moral interpretations." Actually I would see socialism as a more fitting example. All of Marxism can be seen as a conspiracy theory of Capitalists exploiting Workers. Workers are essentially victims who resent their employers who exploit them. This matches up quite well with Nietzsche's anti-egalitarianism and the resentiment of the other and the self/herd which defines itself as Not. The socialization of the German people under the Nazis followed this formula of resentiment of the masses toward Jewish capitalism/bankers of the capitalist system. Critical Race theory is a conspiracy theory of racial victimization which thrives on the resentiment of white privilege. Moral force in these arguments or conspiracies always resides within the victimhood of the oppressed and underprivileged. Socialism, Nazism and much of Postmodernism are examples of Slave Morality from a Nietzschean perspective. The marriage of the warrior class and asceticism in the middle ages would seem to be more interesting from a Nietzschean perspective. Here we have a confluence of noble, ascetic and heroic individualism. Nietzsche's cherished ideals. They represent an overcoming of the will's ill-will towards itself in an affirmation of life. BGE and GM bring into question the whole moralizing project as having a life rejecting negative force. The proclamation of the Death of God means man must find legitimacy elsewhere. Modern secularism and liberalism is the grammar of God without God. It is transitional. This nexus was foretold by Nietzsche it is not something that he just made up because he was an atheist; it was a pressing reality for him.
You've misunderstood Nazism if you're comparing it to CRT. It wasn't just capitalist and bankers that the Nazis rebeled against, it was the God awful art. One can argue that CRT is just another astro-turf destraction if not road block for another Nazi type rebellion against the new world social order.
@@stephencarter7266 Actually I would say that CRT is a denazification project. Marcuse and Neuman as well as Adorno were heavily involved in the Fragebogen and the American denazification project after the second world war.
@@kimfreeborn No, I'm not talking about "denazifying" anything. CRT is a distraction, a kinda _controlled cultural storm_ . It exist to keep Americans confused, mutually suspicious and paranoid of one another. It's enabled, if not funded by "the bankers". Sure, CRT is about stoking RESSENTIMENT, but it's _controlled_ ressentiment. CRT isn't grassroots; it's the creation of the media industrial complex (for want of a better term). It's aim is to _prevent_ Nazism or something like it. You can't really compare CRT's advocates (white collared, mediocre _largely female_ academics and lawyers) to hardened Nazi WW1 working class veterans. Contemporary historians haven't earnestly analyzed what led to Nazism, not really. There is a kinda _Orwellian Newspeak_ used when analyzing the first half of Germany's 1900s. There's a great deal of _water muddying_ when it comes to that period. You yourself engaged in it ( perhaps unwittingly). Personally I'm not convinced that Nietzsche would have despised the Nazis. I think he actually would have included Hitler in the same vain as Napoleon, Ceasar and Frederick the Great. Modern academics seem to willfully misinterpret Nietzsche to suite the mores of post WW2, Post 911, post covid culture . Europeans living during the two world wars were temporally closer to Nietzsche's world and had an organic, purer, more immediate grasp of Nietzsche's ideas.
@@stephencarter7266 As for Nietzsche and the Nazis, he was neither a collectivist, statist nor antisemite. However, I would agree that it would be harder to say how he would have felt about Hitler. And I would agree that it would be inaccurate to view the Woke as a kind of Freikorps. At the end of denazification in 1947 the experts agreed that the German problem was a due to a conformist attitude and a lack of critical thinking. I would agree this hardly seems adequate. In the end denazification was discontinued for largely pragmatic and practical concerns. We would also seem to agree that CRT presents itself as a denazification program. As a moral interpretation CRT takes its cue from the holocaust and paints its detractors as Nazis or White Supremacists. For Nietzsche all moral interpretations are reducible to the Will to Power and an expression of it. As an immoralist Nietzsche may have contributed to the social milieu that gave rise to Nazism. I don't think that we can disentangle CRT from its roots in fascism/anti-fascism nor its techniques. And herein lies the muddiness. The postmodernist arm of CRT brackets the moral argument and redirects it back to the issue of power formation. As such there is little reason to expect that CRT is more than a normalizing force or that it is capable of legitimizing itself beyond its own power formation. It is certainly broader in its' effects than its' media representation and it has spread into the institutional framework as a tool of socialization. No doubt this has been noticed by those higher up the rungs of power as a form of subjugation and why its methodologies have been so readily adopted by our corporate powers. So here I would agree that it is a controlled form of manipulation to isolate its political enemies and present itself as a progressive force. In reality as you have noted our age of catastrophe would seem to present us with a biopolitics that Foucault warned against.
@@kimfreeborn I agree. Nietzsche wasn't a collectivist or statist, but neither were the Nazis. There's a reason Hitler was refered to as "Der Führer" as opposed to President, Primer or even Chancellor. As to whether Nietzche was an anti-semite, it's hard to say. I've read so many "experts" vociferously insist that Nietzsche wasn't an anti-semite that it seems less an honest accessment of his views than an academic protocol. If the Weimar republic's culture was anything like the USA's 2022 culture, Nietzsche would have been loath to be percieved as anti-semitic. Witness the hysteria over Kanye West's rather benign comments. In 'BGE' 9: 258 when Nietzsche spoke of the _Sipo Matado_ and... "the sacrifice of a legion of individuals, who for for its sake, must be suppressed and reduced to imperfect men, to slaves and instruments..." What did he mean? How did the Nazis interpret the Sipo Matador metaphor? How should a Kanye West read BGE.9: 258 ? In no way am I comparing Kanye to Nazis, but it's interesting that the _seeds_ of a Master morality can only be found in the soil of _ressentiment_ . "And if you gaze long into the abyss..." *correction:* I meant _1880s culture_ , not as I mistakenly wrote, "Weimar republic's culture" (which obviously makes no sense).
Ironically you both spoke like a true conspiracy theorist in terms of justification of actions and spoke like a true underground man , slave Ressentiment when you accede and go on to encourage people to take part in bipartisan constrained , contrived political voting in a system long since coopted by the lobby groups and donations of the most powerful corporate interests . As if that helps .
7:05 "Disciplinary institutions" do not foreclose or limit possibility, they increase it greatly. Disciplined lives have always increased possibility and enhanced potential. Even spiritual discipline is a wonderful way to expand and grow your spiritual insights and understandings...you should give this a try perhaps. Your perspective is a little narrow on this issue.
I'm reading Genealogy of Morals and i wonder if Nietzsche is also proposing a sociological theory of consciousness? Was not the inwardness of the ascetic man what gave birth to consciousness? Consciousness and self as the result of an act of violence ? He seems to be also deconstructing the so called unity of self.
Nietzsche actually does believe morality to be natural. But we have to be careful here. Not that our morality is universal and therefore natural in that sense, but that morality as a phenomenon arising out of the 'mnemonics of pain' as Nietsche penned, IS something natural to man. Contrary to common understanding often attributed to him, N actually believes morality as a form is natural, but its judgments wholly arbitrary. As he writes: "All virtues are physiological conditions: particularly the principle organic functions considered as necessary, as good. All virtues are really refined passions and enhanced states". So for example the forms of pity, love, justice, virtue, all have a corresponding physiological condition. In this way, N understands the forms to be perfectly natural, (again not in the universal sense, merely in the normative sense natural as opposed to inorganic) and then the dictates of the forms, of course, hopelessly appropriated by the groups who control the population. Hope this helps your understanding! Elizabeth Grosz writes on this excellently. It is a subtle point (is it though?!) but for me, is such an essential aspect of N's positive philosophy that is notoriously difficult to deduce.
I believe that it is accurate to say that the person who realistically best embodies Nietzsche's ideals is the slave who rebels against their enslavement. Their worldview and self-view is not limited by any kind of resentment against the slaver or themself, but rather the desire for power over ones own life. They are radically life-affirming in their desire and struggle. They overcome their limitations and gain power.
It's funny how you consider voting a way of avoiding ressentiment, when it's the perfect example of a disciplinary/control institution. If you want to change the system, don't play by its rules because you are doomed to fail. If voting once every 4 years is grabbing life by the horns, we are a little bit fucked right? :)
Thanks again for your content, I really appreciate it.
I agree--and that was a separate endeavour on my part.
Its so weird how you make Nietzsche sound like an anarcho-leftist... Your interpretation of Nietzsche is so off it hurts.
Considering the fact that Nietzsche made it clear that he was into a "Aristocratic ideal" with his ubermensch concept which is the opposjte of "Enjoying life" just for the sake of it. Amor fati is the love of life as it is, the good and the bad. Its an ideal for the "Strong"
For him, discipline was the only way for the greater good, to reach the top of the Mountain.
Let's not forget that N understood progressive history in a much different sense as well, i.e. NOT that with the passage of time society progresses, but instead that individuals who further society make up a scattered archipelago along the timeline of civilization. The conception of a progressive history in the Hegelian sense or Marxist sense is completely antithetical to N's conception! He was certainly no humanist, to say the least, and we would be doing a terrible disservice to N to characterize him as anarcho-leftist!!!
N even thought that the body itself was a hierarchical battleground for the multiplicity of forces that constitute it!
In all his positive philosophy, N is in no way a leftist in the normative sense. Thank you for your post.
I am highly critical of Nietzsche's elitism but I don't believe it is easily pigeon-holed into a left or right political world view.
Today I learned Nietzsche discovered and fleshed out C-PTSD over a hundred years before anyone else lmao. Holy shit. Nietzsche is fucking brilliant. I relate SO hard to all of this.
Really appreciate how you tackle complex thinkers and ideas. You present so many concepts in such a straightforward and captivating way . Keep the great content going. We need channels like yours on youtube.
Why is this the top video for this topic
Enjoyed your explanation! Just read the book and did a video on it, great timing.
Very cool! I wasn't familiar with your stuff--ill have to check it out!
Vote for Joe! The essence of Nietzschean philosophy, Mass Democracy!
Yeah, as a Conservative, I have to admit, there's plenty of Resentment on BOTH sides of the political spectrum. But, here's an idea: isn't that a problem with Representative Democracy in general? (Not that it isn't otherwise a very good system... but...) The thing is, as long as YOUR party- the party YOU identify with, isn't in power, isn't it almost irresistibly tempting to curl up on yourself, reject your life (in favor of what you wish it was), and say, "If only WE had the power! How dare THEY exclude us!?"
This notion of democratic equality only makes it worse! That's where the notion of Resenting the Government & those with Institutional Power comes from- that's why Conspiracy Theories, etc., are so popular! (At least that's my theory!)
Some food for thought.
It’s more on the conservative side though.
But that’s to be expected.
Conservatives want permanence in a world full of change and when things change (as they always do and will) they get resentful and engage in an attitude of burning the ship down with themselves still on it, one final fuck you to the world.
@@wantanamera interesting POV. Where do you see that happening?
Not like us Conservatives are perfect- being one kinda makes you feel like a Sports Fan a lot of the time; "How could they DO that!?" But I never have seen THAT particular sort of resentment; conspiracy theories- yes; burning the house down... when??
Hi, I discovered your channel and I love these presentations - great work! I think the popularity of Nietzsche is a result of the many ways one can interpret his text. He offers no complete system and criticizes almost everyone. From fascist to anarchist, everyone seems to find something compelling. Some people think his Übermensch is a dominant leader some others point to the misunderstood artist. The same seems to be true with his concept of Ressentiment. I would love to hear some sort of comparison between Nietzsche, Camus, and Kierkegaard. Kierkegaard's Knight of Death reminds me of Nietzsche's Übermensch. Would Nietzsche say Camus "living without appeal" is some sort of Ressentiment? Camus also talks about the "revolt against the meaningless of life", which fits the Nietzschean spirit?
Haha I would too. Great points
Wonderfully clear exposition of an aspect of Nietzsche's philosophy I was unaware of. Re your request for further angles on ressentiment: I came to your site after reading an academic paper arguing that ressentiment was the key driver of the Incel movement. I was shocked by how much of what you said described the symptoms of ressentiment. Maybe worth exploring further? And of course the outcome of the 2024 US election offers further reasons for talking about it. Unfortunately.
I hope you take this as constructive criticism rather than offense, but forgo the need to insert your biases when explaining another man’s philosophy. In an attempt to explain neitzche’s thoughts you twisted them into your own view of how they should be interpreted. If that in itself wasn’t bad enough, you reduced a great man’s incredibly complex philosophy into nothing more than an advertisement for a vague off brand version of hedonism. This is without even mentioning the reductionist almost childish juxtaposition you tried to hammer in. This is a philosophy channel, your viewers are much more analytical than those who would flog at the mention of buzzwords and semblance of perceived progressiveness. If you have any desire to be taken seriously (no offense) i’d advise you to start stepping into the grey area instead of being so black and white. I apologize for being harsh, but this in my opinion, was a terrible analysis.
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@@TheoryPhilosophy good luck 👍
Well said.
This issue is so important (and group resentment ("herd") and its consequences) that more studies (and videos) on the topic would be interesting. I am grateful in advance. (I'm a new subscriber to the channel).
Love the channel and the presentation! Great work as always!
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The master-slave morality in Nietzsche is somewhat related with Hegel´ś master-slave dialetics?
Not really. Hegel affords much more opportunity (albeit abstractly) to the bondsman than Nietzsche does to the oppressed. The bondsman is open to change whereas the subject of ressentiment is foreclosed to change by their own accord
@@TheoryPhilosophy Gotcha. Thank's for the explanation. Your content is really helpful because philosophy is not an easy topic
There is a lecture series that talks about that specific topic, type "Hegel as a background to Deleuze" and it should pop up on yt.
@@wp6007 I saved the lesson for later. I appreciate the indication
@@jorgemachado5317 Yeah, watch like the first 6 or 7, it's not super interesting and the audio quality sucks tho, so maybe take notes or do some monotonous task while you listen, great info tho and very easy to digest, especially if you account what is being discussed.
Using Nietzsche as a tool for left wing propaganda? Now I've seen everything. But then it goes to show that the posibilities of interpretation are truly infinite.
Unreal!
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Totally agree. Weird narrow and false assessment
Nazties perverted Nietzshean philosophy and the Republicans call Nazties leftists, so maybe it depends on who's defining the overton window
The Elephants call Nazties leftists even though both Parties believe the same things, so I reckon that maybe the political spectrum depends on who is defining the vocabulary?
nice.
except I am the creator of values.
leftism has set itself as victim and martyr.
it is ressentiment.
it goes down and insists all do so in the interest of recent redefinitions of equality/equity.
we are not nor have ever been been equal.
nor ever will be.
we are are individually unique in any given sphere we are blessed to exist in.
i appreciate your lucidity into historic Nietzsche.
nice way to twist this for your ideology
I think that mention of Slave mentality , the fact that those who cultivate resentment become passive aggressive and ugly and nietzisché’s analysis oh how the Christian’s managed to subvert the Roman empire through getting the Romans to adopt their masochistic moral principles would all be interesting to explore. I was pro sanders but am not sure that mixing presentations on philosophical subjects with political proselytizing is the most felicitous mixture.
Good video, yet Nietzsche does not see that self-denial brings the greatest joys indeed. His lack of understanding where and how deeper joys arise demonstrates his lack of experiencing them ...perhaps. Just a thought. Love yall
Nietzsche was full of Resentment 😎
The energy that started nazism .Comunism was more anger while naziem was pure resentmemt
Vote left? 🤣 How you liking that decision now? Smoking, alcohol, (drugs?) brings joy? Never smoked anything, never cared to…joy and happiness is different for people. What one person sees as suffering by not partaking in joyous things depends on what things they feel are joyous.
6:04 Ahhh and so they become their own tyrant indeed. To trust one's self too much is a fool's errand
Thanks for the video...I guess presumptions I'm hearing is that inherent in self is the ability to find actualized joy. If that is not reality, if the order of the universe is that self can actually be one of the biggest hurdles to joy, how does that affect these views? Love, community, relationships with sincere consideration of the other in absence of self cannot be possible if self is ruling. Seems that way in my head. Can a parent raise a fully dependent baby if they operate on self-will and decide they don't care about the needs of the child to survive anymore because their desires matter more?
Maybe a bigger question is what leads to joy? Why do some reach the heights of self-expression, creativity, fame, money then want to kill themselves/overdose (musicians, actors)? That would seem to imply finding an identity on self-promotion, self-importance, self-worship is not the path to joy. I personally have not experienced that my indulgence in whatever self wants has left me more fulfilled. Often its more empty, even self-destructive. So that seems to tell me that self can be an impediment to my own joy, and some level of restraining self can actually open me up to receive love, promote in me a desire to love, and experience joy. What does it mean to self-sacrifice, and is there joy in that?
Wow! Great talk... And then you tell people to go and vote for those who are exploiting those who harbour Ressentiment! 😂
Ya that was a side note--i love me some ressentimentt
@@TheoryPhilosophy Luckily not so much as to lose your sense of humour! Best wishes
Great content as always. 👍🏽
Where do you live, dude? Sound pretty American to me. :)
"There are no moral phenomena only moral interpretations." Actually I would see socialism as a more fitting example. All of Marxism can be seen as a conspiracy theory of Capitalists exploiting Workers. Workers are essentially victims who resent their employers who exploit them. This matches up quite well with Nietzsche's anti-egalitarianism and the resentiment of the other and the self/herd which defines itself as Not. The socialization of the German people under the Nazis followed this formula of resentiment of the masses toward Jewish capitalism/bankers of the capitalist system. Critical Race theory is a conspiracy theory of racial victimization which thrives on the resentiment of white privilege. Moral force in these arguments or conspiracies always resides within the victimhood of the oppressed and underprivileged. Socialism, Nazism and much of Postmodernism are examples of Slave Morality from a Nietzschean perspective. The marriage of the warrior class and asceticism in the middle ages would seem to be more interesting from a Nietzschean perspective. Here we have a confluence of noble, ascetic and heroic individualism. Nietzsche's cherished ideals. They represent an overcoming of the will's ill-will towards itself in an affirmation of life. BGE and GM bring into question the whole moralizing project as having a life rejecting negative force. The proclamation of the Death of God means man must find legitimacy elsewhere. Modern secularism and liberalism is the grammar of God without God. It is transitional. This nexus was foretold by Nietzsche it is not something that he just made up because he was an atheist; it was a pressing reality for him.
You've misunderstood Nazism if you're comparing it to CRT.
It wasn't just capitalist and bankers that the Nazis rebeled against, it was the God awful art.
One can argue that CRT is just another astro-turf destraction if not road block for another Nazi type rebellion against the new world social order.
@@stephencarter7266 Actually I would say that CRT is a denazification project. Marcuse and Neuman as well as Adorno were heavily involved in the Fragebogen and the American denazification project after the second world war.
@@kimfreeborn No, I'm not talking about "denazifying" anything. CRT is a distraction, a kinda _controlled cultural storm_ . It exist to keep Americans confused, mutually suspicious and paranoid of one another. It's enabled, if not funded by "the bankers". Sure, CRT is about stoking RESSENTIMENT, but it's _controlled_ ressentiment. CRT isn't grassroots; it's the creation of the media industrial complex (for want of a better term). It's aim is to _prevent_ Nazism or something like it.
You can't really compare CRT's advocates (white collared, mediocre _largely female_ academics and lawyers) to hardened Nazi WW1 working class veterans. Contemporary historians haven't earnestly analyzed what led to Nazism, not really. There is a kinda _Orwellian Newspeak_ used when analyzing the first half of Germany's 1900s. There's a great deal of _water muddying_ when it comes to that period. You yourself engaged in it ( perhaps unwittingly).
Personally I'm not convinced that Nietzsche would have despised the Nazis. I think he actually would have included Hitler in the same vain as Napoleon, Ceasar and Frederick the Great.
Modern academics seem to willfully misinterpret Nietzsche to suite the mores of post WW2, Post 911, post covid culture . Europeans living during the two world wars were temporally closer to Nietzsche's world and had an organic, purer, more immediate grasp of Nietzsche's ideas.
@@stephencarter7266 As for Nietzsche and the Nazis, he was neither a collectivist, statist nor antisemite. However, I would agree that it would be harder to say how he would have felt about Hitler. And I would agree that it would be inaccurate to view the Woke as a kind of Freikorps. At the end of denazification in 1947 the experts agreed that the German problem was a due to a conformist attitude and a lack of critical thinking. I would agree this hardly seems adequate. In the end denazification was discontinued for largely pragmatic and practical concerns. We would also seem to agree that CRT presents itself as a denazification program. As a moral interpretation CRT takes its cue from the holocaust and paints its detractors as Nazis or White Supremacists. For Nietzsche all moral interpretations are reducible to the Will to Power and an expression of it. As an immoralist Nietzsche may have contributed to the social milieu that gave rise to Nazism. I don't think that we can disentangle CRT from its roots in fascism/anti-fascism nor its techniques. And herein lies the muddiness. The postmodernist arm of CRT brackets the moral argument and redirects it back to the issue of power formation. As such there is little reason to expect that CRT is more than a normalizing force or that it is capable of legitimizing itself beyond its own power formation. It is certainly broader in its' effects than its' media representation and it has spread into the institutional framework as a tool of socialization. No doubt this has been noticed by those higher up the rungs of power as a form of subjugation and why its methodologies have been so readily adopted by our corporate powers. So here I would agree that it is a controlled form of manipulation to isolate its political enemies and present itself as a progressive force. In reality as you have noted our age of catastrophe would seem to present us with a biopolitics that Foucault warned against.
@@kimfreeborn I agree. Nietzsche wasn't a collectivist or statist, but neither were the Nazis. There's a reason Hitler was refered to as "Der Führer" as opposed to President, Primer or even Chancellor. As to whether Nietzche was an anti-semite, it's hard to say. I've read so many "experts" vociferously insist that Nietzsche wasn't an anti-semite that it seems less an honest accessment of his views than an academic protocol. If the Weimar republic's culture was anything like the USA's 2022 culture, Nietzsche would have been loath to be percieved as anti-semitic.
Witness the hysteria over Kanye West's rather benign comments.
In 'BGE' 9: 258 when Nietzsche spoke of the _Sipo Matado_ and... "the sacrifice of a legion of individuals, who for for its sake, must be suppressed and reduced to imperfect men, to slaves and instruments..." What did he mean? How did the Nazis interpret the Sipo Matador metaphor? How should a Kanye West read BGE.9: 258 ?
In no way am I comparing Kanye to Nazis, but it's interesting that the _seeds_ of a Master morality can only be found in the soil of _ressentiment_ .
"And if you gaze long into the abyss..."
*correction:* I meant _1880s culture_ , not as I mistakenly wrote, "Weimar republic's culture" (which obviously makes no sense).
good stuff
Bad example with the migrants.
Ironically you both spoke like a true conspiracy theorist in terms of justification of actions and spoke like a true underground man , slave Ressentiment when you accede and go on to encourage people to take part in bipartisan constrained , contrived political voting in a system long since coopted by the lobby groups and donations of the most powerful corporate interests . As if that helps .
7:05 "Disciplinary institutions" do not foreclose or limit possibility, they increase it greatly. Disciplined lives have always increased possibility and enhanced potential. Even spiritual discipline is a wonderful way to expand and grow your spiritual insights and understandings...you should give this a try perhaps. Your perspective is a little narrow on this issue.
I'm reading Genealogy of Morals and i wonder if Nietzsche is also proposing a sociological theory of consciousness?
Was not the inwardness of the ascetic man what gave birth to consciousness?
Consciousness and self as the result of an act of violence ?
He seems to be also deconstructing the so called unity of self.
Nietzsche actually does believe morality to be natural. But we have to be careful here. Not that our morality is universal and therefore natural in that sense, but that morality as a phenomenon arising out of the 'mnemonics of pain' as Nietsche penned, IS something natural to man. Contrary to common understanding often attributed to him, N actually believes morality as a form is natural, but its judgments wholly arbitrary. As he writes:
"All virtues are physiological conditions: particularly the principle organic functions considered as necessary, as good. All virtues are really refined passions and enhanced states".
So for example the forms of pity, love, justice, virtue, all have a corresponding physiological condition. In this way, N understands the forms to be perfectly natural, (again not in the universal sense, merely in the normative sense natural as opposed to inorganic) and then the dictates of the forms, of course, hopelessly appropriated by the groups who control the population. Hope this helps your understanding! Elizabeth Grosz writes on this excellently.
It is a subtle point (is it though?!) but for me, is such an essential aspect of N's positive philosophy that is notoriously difficult to deduce.
Really?
This didn’t age well...
Great video
Yeah. Zarathustra would’ve been a big Biden supporter.
You're joking?
Nietzsche would have hated you.
Good
I'm voting the actual most left wing candidate, Alyson Kennedy.
Your vote, your choice, but its better to push Biden to implement rank voting over voting third party.