Let's Talk About JEAN GREY's Not-So-Secret Power in Jean Grey #1

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  • In today's video let's talk about Jean Grey's not-so-secret power in Jean Grey #1, and why this will allow her to cheat death and lead the X-Men in their attempt to avenge the Hellfire Gala 2023 Massacre.
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  • @gbonz80
    @gbonz80 Рік тому +38

    This puts Jean back at top dawg status. Jean is the Phoenix. This Oprah everybody gets a bird era was fun but put some respect on the original recipe. Good job my guy

    • @BiG-JuPO1O1
      @BiG-JuPO1O1 Рік тому +1

      Lmao so true. You get Phoenix!! You get a Phoenix!! EVERYBODY GETS A PHOENIX!! I could imagine everyone including Hulk pulls off 90s clumsy Jean Grey saying I'm am Phoenix then faints.

  • @edaniels240
    @edaniels240 Рік тому +50

    Without Louise Simonson, we wouldn't have Cable, Archangel, Stryfe, Apocalypse, some of the characters she co-created

    • @smorillo8581
      @smorillo8581 Рік тому +7

      And look at the historical significance of those characters‼️‼️‼️‼️

  • @jesusdicent2
    @jesusdicent2 Рік тому +17

    they gave us, the Jean Grey we always believe she was.

  • @antwan1357
    @antwan1357 Рік тому +32

    What would be impressive isn't if Jean Grey can resurrect herself , but I think resurrecting the entire mutant population would be impressive .

    • @roguephoenix
      @roguephoenix Рік тому +4

      it's what the phoenix is made for. death and rebirth. destruction and creation. seems almost likely that she will tap into that.

  • @armoghetto
    @armoghetto Рік тому +6

    Jean has a talent for survival. My fav is still transferring her mind into Emma’s body & even using Emma’s latent telekinesis during the first Upstarts battle with Shinobi. This move has never really been examined or revisited as it wasn’t a minor moment. For that matter Emma transferring her mind into Iceman’s body shouldn’t be overlooked either as usually entities like Shadow King are more known for this.
    Jean doing what she told Cyclops was wrong seems natural after her way didn’t seem to work with the gala going so bad.

  • @trehubb6144
    @trehubb6144 Рік тому +14

    Jean going back in time is some OP stuff that I'm here for 😂💯

    • @Lucretia19
      @Lucretia19 11 місяців тому

      yes and she's using her telepathy

  • @fishnewt1331
    @fishnewt1331 Рік тому +46

    Jean once said her greatest fear was not being Phoenix. Not Madelyne Pryor. It was herself. She would have no one to blame if she were to lose control of herself because of the power she wields.
    People who say Jean Grey is too perfect do not realize that that is by design of what she had already been through. And it will not take much to unravel it when push comes to shove if Jean does not be careful.

    • @ingonyama70
      @ingonyama70 Рік тому +5

      This comic seems to be doing GREAT at showing that.

    • @TonyWilliams-in4xr
      @TonyWilliams-in4xr Рік тому +1

      Jean didn't lose control of the power. Remember she was manipulated by Mastermind over a period if time. That set in motion the events that led to Dark Phoenix.

  • @uxm4life94
    @uxm4life94 Рік тому +9

    Jean actually came into contact with the Phoenix well before the space shuttle incident- when Annie Richardson died and again during X-men the Hidden Years.

  • @godsson231
    @godsson231 Рік тому +13

    Dark Phoenix has always been my favorite after Storm and Magneto
    Every game I played storm and Jean especially in marvel vs capcom 3

  • @superthorc6894
    @superthorc6894 Рік тому +8

    I see where Cable got his reckless use of time travel from lol

  • @uxm4life94
    @uxm4life94 Рік тому +7

    Louise Simonson was OK as a writer- but her real strength was in the lost art of comicbook editing. She was editor during the peak X-men period of: Dark Phoenix Saga and Days of Future Past

  • @darrius3022
    @darrius3022 Рік тому +17

    Jean and Exodus have similar powers for most part. He's able to ressurect himself and technically others if he takes their mind into his and reconstruct their body. He did it with Professor X. Im not sure why people would think she would require the Phoenix to ressurect

    • @Phoenix2024-k1g
      @Phoenix2024-k1g Рік тому +1

      Jean cant resurrect herself jean is connected to the Phoenix soul bond so I believe this is the Phoenix doing, jean is just a telepath and telekinesis user

    • @darrius3022
      @darrius3022 Рік тому +7

      @wallisvictor9688 She can, has, and another mutant with a similar powerset on a similar scale has done the same for himself and others.

    • @ThePhoenixEntity
      @ThePhoenixEntity Рік тому +7

      @@Phoenix2024-k1g apparently you were not paying attention to the video

    • @Phoenix2024-k1g
      @Phoenix2024-k1g Рік тому

      @@darrius3022 so when jean was dying I'm space malnourished who was the one who saved her life and bonded with her.. Phoenix SO wtf are you talking about, jean grey is a telepath and telekinetic everything after that is plot amor and Phoenix doing the work. Cause how many times have jean died and how many times have the PHOENIX resurrect her? So don't try to call me slow when i read the comic . The Phoenix as a whole isn't jean grey the Phoenix is beyond jeans power for its a force older than time older than earth 616 universe, the Phoenix spread it self and only one can exist in a universe and in earth 616 it CHOOSES JEAN GREY. And bonded with her, not because jean is special but because jean was crying telepathically and the Phoenix was attracted to her emotion which the Phoenix never have nor possess, in exchange for jeans life to be saves the Phoenix bonded with her FOREVER. this is no different from a contract ghost rider did , meaning jean will always be the Phoenix, SO WHATEVER POWERS JEAN HAVE its the Phoenix doing the work through jeans will. Not because jean herself have the power

    • @qizaarzomar3614
      @qizaarzomar3614 Рік тому +5

      ​@wallisvictor9688 Jean still has the power to ressurect herself without the Phoenix. Young Jean does this before bonding with the Phoenix. Quentin Quire has also ressurected himself, and so has Nate Grey. It's just an ability powerful telepaths/telekinetics have.

  • @TheDeMarcChannel
    @TheDeMarcChannel Рік тому +3

    😂🤣😂 Jean out there pulling a whole ass Moira!

  • @wakamoon1910
    @wakamoon1910 Рік тому +6

    its also important to note that jean was stabbed by blightswill knife so her powers aren't gonna work so well, probably not good enough right now to fix herself.

  • @smorillo8581
    @smorillo8581 Рік тому +3

    I love the RESPECT you showed for Louise Simonson! She’s a Marvel OG!

  • @jzachery
    @jzachery Рік тому +16

    I'm one that was very fatigued of the Phoenix, more specifically the Phoenix with Jean. With Rachel it was awesome. That said, the way this story is already going I can see Jean becoming the Phoenix again, but not the problematic psycho Phoenix but, sort of like how Rachel seemed to handle it, almost like it was dormant and at peace within her.

    • @darthonyx2382
      @darthonyx2382 Рік тому +9

      "Fatigued" she legit hasn't had the Phoenix since 2005, it brought her back 2017, and that's about it til 2023!
      Before then she was the Phoenix in the 80's!

    • @ozziemsmith
      @ozziemsmith Рік тому +1

      I agree. My issue with the phoenix and Jean is the constant internal battle for control. That seems to only persist with Jean…
      On the flip side, to have someone that powerful on your roster could make story telling an issue. But the Morrison run I believe solved that issue, having jean have access to a part of the power vs. the whole thing. I hope these issues explore her power more than the phoenix. Say what you want about Bendis, but his take on jean and her power set made my day. To see what she can do without the phoenix was on another level. I need that aspect back to adult jean if possible..

    • @PickleJarr
      @PickleJarr Рік тому +8

      For me, I’m just fatigued with Phoenix in general at this point. They overused it several years ago with terrible plot with or without Jean. They need to take a break with it for at least another 5 years because they’re draining the excitement behind it when they’re milking it at any chance they get.
      I know Jean is Phoenix basically. They just need to lay off the aesthetic and keep her pink power effects. Don’t want to see no bird or orange palette soon. Just want Jean explored with her Omega potential and not just reasoned that she’s being empowered by the PF. It takes away her credibility of being an Omega level with just her skills. I like the subtleness in this issue because it shows us Jean and what she’s truly capable of. Phoenix or not, just need it to be subtle for now and let Jean be alone herself, whether it’s the PF or a man, they need to let her breathe for a moment.

    • @areyoulookingbitch7065
      @areyoulookingbitch7065 Рік тому

      ​@PickleJarr jean isn't potential is Omega

  • @Wezt334
    @Wezt334 Рік тому +20

    It feels like we are returning to the Claremont Phoenix retcon era of Jean and the Phoenix being distinct beings yet are one and the same which is not a bad thing in my opinion. Given that Jeans soul is said to be carved from the Phoenix Force itself I would not be surprised if she had access to the power of the Phoenix without technically being its current host, hell it’s not like she’s forgotten her time in the White Hot Room or what it felt like to be the White Phoenix of the Crown we don’t even know if a WPOTC has ever returned to life from the White Hot Room before she could’ve had access to more power than she realised after “breaking up” with the Phoenix Force…like still having access to a joint account with your ex

    • @ingonyama70
      @ingonyama70 Рік тому +9

      "I AM you. Don't you remember?"
      That line from Endsong always, ALWAYS gets me. No matter how many times writers try to create a distinction between Jean Grey and the Phoenix, passing the Big Bad Bird power-up around from hero to hero like the hottest of potatoes, the truth is, Phoenix will always be too closely associated with Jean Grey. Even Rachel, the Phoenix's "runner-up" host, is noted to be such an ideal candidate because she's the daughter of Jean Grey.
      (this isn't a knock at Rachel, I want to be clear, I love her to bits, I'm just making a point)
      Even when Jean Grey is not Phoenix, she's still Phoenix.

    • @rajohnbutler7131
      @rajohnbutler7131 Рік тому +4

      Damn right, Jean is Phoenix, Phoenix is Jean.

    • @christopherbennett5858
      @christopherbennett5858 Рік тому +2

      @@ingonyama70It’s fine. We like Rachel.
      But damn, Pheonix Endsong wasn’t kind to her. Seriously, Kurt tells her to stay on the jet during a Pheonix story and she does it? Just… no.

    • @christopherbennett5858
      @christopherbennett5858 Рік тому

      @@rajohnbutler7131Exactly.

    • @christopheouvrard8548
      @christopheouvrard8548 Рік тому

      ​@@ingonyama70 I always got the feeling that for the Phoenix, Jean is the fun girl you don't introduce to your parent, and Rachel is the one you settle for.

  • @mcpics4448
    @mcpics4448 Рік тому +6

    4:18 to be fair, Jean never did like magneto even time displace Jean had her issue with him

  • @Gaberille
    @Gaberille Рік тому +28

    Its not surprising Jean can send her essence back in time… or at least to me its not because the “white witch” “saturnine” did something similar during The X of swords and event.

    • @Ephideltrance
      @Ephideltrance Рік тому +6

      I mean, her daughter Rachel has the power to telepathically send people consciousness through time, plus chronoskimming.... so Jean potentially having such abilities is not farfetched at all.
      That, and Jean, whether she knows it or not, wants it or not, will always have a connection to the phoenix. So anything is possible.

    • @Gaberille
      @Gaberille Рік тому

      @@Ephideltrance so real. So true.

    • @darthonyx2382
      @darthonyx2382 Рік тому +10

      Readers forget less than a year ago, during X Lives and X Deaths of Wolverine, Charles Xavier asked Jean while they were projecting Wolverine's consciousness through different timelines.
      To send a psionic blast to the past to erase the minds of anyone who saw Logan within a mile. She's OP!

    • @kendleoneal4080
      @kendleoneal4080 Рік тому

      What happened to Rachel being an Omega Mutant?

    • @ingonyama70
      @ingonyama70 Рік тому +5

      @@kendleoneal4080 I think she still is one, she's just not On The List.
      Honestly, I never cared much about 'Omega potential' as a label. In practice, Rachel can do everything Jean can do, she just goes about it differently.

  • @TheChriscount
    @TheChriscount Рік тому +6

    The way Jean ripped the phoenix out f ema frost in " End Song " She said. this belongs to me. go find something else to play with.

  • @joemagnum611
    @joemagnum611 Рік тому +3

    The teen Jean Grey had her powers ramped up. That's why she was able to bring herself back

    • @hcbabyssian8936
      @hcbabyssian8936 Рік тому

      amped by what? When she arrived in the present, she already had access to her telepathy, something her orihinal self shouldn't have been able to do yet. The Phoenix didn't even like her and killed her, but she forced it to resurrect her.

    • @joemagnum611
      @joemagnum611 Рік тому +2

      @hcbabyssian8936 remember when they went to space and Angel got his fire wings and Jean had something like a quantum psychic ability

    • @Mitsu2040
      @Mitsu2040 Рік тому

      @@joemagnum611during the whole Black Vortex mess?

    • @joemagnum611
      @joemagnum611 Рік тому +1

      @Mitsu2040 yeah that bullshit

  • @ZulooSoRandom
    @ZulooSoRandom 11 місяців тому +1

    I'm so happy some one gives her the flowers she deserves 😭

  • @Mitsu2040
    @Mitsu2040 Рік тому +1

    In this issue, I think Jean was deliberately doing things she normally wouldn't do in order to see a different outcome. In the end it all spiraled out of her control, which means that she was right to do things as she had the first time.

  • @warriorfella
    @warriorfella Рік тому +2

    12:50 That drawing of Phoenix Jean Grey looks crazy as f**k. She looks way more like a psycho than the live action versions

  • @Nikholot
    @Nikholot 11 місяців тому

    Endsong was the great ending that Jean deserved but also as a fan, I loved how they explored Jean's feats without the Phoenix and how we saw her growing closer to her omega-level status. She's so powerful that even the phoenix kept yearning for her even after these years. The phoenix storylines after her parting with Jean seemed so lost. I hope that the two gets to reunite only for Jean to absorb the phoenix and become one being with it (like how Wanda absorbed cthon but in a more peaceful way as phoenix loved jean and cthon despised wanda).

  • @eustatic3832
    @eustatic3832 Рік тому +2

    Love this. Great to see it after the krakoan era changed the relationship to death. Still so sad that none of the movies could get on this wavelength, too scifi, to mystical for dumb action movies

  • @user-pr8gx3vb9h
    @user-pr8gx3vb9h Рік тому +2

    Jean Grey being able to do this is not surprising as being an avatar of the Phoenix force is an ability at her disposal. Plus it was already a part of her powers that she was already well versed in.

  • @tracyalan7201
    @tracyalan7201 Рік тому +4

    It wasn't quite what I expected and thanks for bringing me up to speed on some past stories that I didn't catch on X-men like the Jean Grey ability to resurrect herself from death that she did on issues I never bought/read but also on the teen X-men when they in the future that I glossed over unnoticed when I did buy/read them. This ability of Grey is totally catching me off guard, but I'd ask why she didn't do that upon her death in the Power/House of X, when the X-men were attacked the Orchis station to destroy the Master Mold Sentinel from coming operational. Mutant resurrection would have been unnecessary for her. This first issue story arc that not wiping the memories upon return to the past and remembering their experiences would then become a multi-verse divergency of the Watcher as future would be fractured from occurring all while simultaneously existing in nanoseconds in a virtualized reality of Jean's consciousness and then re-diverged with other conceptual alternatives of her slowly ebbing consciousness of cognitive mind plotting alternetive pathways to returning to physical life. It actually makes Jean not just an Omega mutant but a Omega threat as well, that her physical body cannot be killed and how would it ever be restrained? If the mutant physical body is dead, then how is the physic consciousness still powerful enough that the astral plane can reach back and resurrect physical body to resurrect. Thus, Jean becomes greater as she is in essential immortal/eternal entity. It's dangerous direction for Marvel to elevate Jean Grey from beloved love & moral compass to a new direction and dare say 'Dominion' that defeats Sinister?

  • @waynesmiley2207
    @waynesmiley2207 Рік тому +1

    I don't know why, but mid video I felt compelled to click the like button and subscribe even though I had already done those things...

  • @scottnewsome5828
    @scottnewsome5828 Рік тому +3

    I am waiting for the completion after reading the first issue. I thought it was just Jean’s psychic It’s A Wonderful Life moment because it doesn’t make sense to me that she has all this knowledge but still went awry

    • @ingonyama70
      @ingonyama70 Рік тому

      Knowledge isn't the same as wisdom. Going back and making different choices is a gift we all wish we could have, but no one ever thinks of the consequences of doing so.
      Jean can apparently reset her timeline if she messes it up too badly, so this is something she'll only be able to get better with with practice.

  • @seanheiser2179
    @seanheiser2179 Рік тому

    Crazy how I just like hit that like, and subscribe, bell icon button without even thinking about it anymore.

  • @hypertechual4436
    @hypertechual4436 Рік тому +2

    when they un-retcon the phoenix and reveal that it's jean's ultimate expression of her omega level potential that she cut off after dark phoenix 🙏

    • @ALifetimeDreaming
      @ALifetimeDreaming Рік тому +1

      That will be 👍🏽 since I think (someone correct me if I’m wrong) Claremont intention was that the PF was her ultimate power at the end, since her soul was mostly carved by the Force.

  • @SensoriaMaRia
    @SensoriaMaRia Рік тому +2

    I was waiting for this video! Louise is a LEGEND

  • @audacityofyouth7051
    @audacityofyouth7051 Рік тому +1

    They gotta decide on whether or not they want Jean to take full accountability for the dark phoenix saga or not. Cause first it was all her, then it wasn’t actually her, and then they started going back and forth on it.

    • @Mitsu2040
      @Mitsu2040 Рік тому

      It's funny because people brush aside other Phoenix host's actions because they were possessed, but Jean still gets blamed for something her clone did. I mean, they did give Scott crap about it for a time, but we haven't brought it up in a long time. The reason I stick with the Phoenix switch retcon is because we have it on print explaining how it happened over several issues and for decades it was the established canon. Now they want to just pretend that it didn't happen without putting in the work of explaining the why. Just expect the readers to be too stupid to notice, I guess?

  • @StJon
    @StJon Рік тому +2

    I'm kinda done with the trips down memory lane for her character. We need to go forward. The same energy they're putting into Storm they need to be putting into Jean, especially if you're gonna claim she's one of the strongest mutants alive.

    • @Mitsu2040
      @Mitsu2040 Рік тому

      Amen!! Gotta look forward, not back!

  • @williamrowe3524
    @williamrowe3524 5 місяців тому

    I’ve already subscribed but man that was clever so definitely a like

  • @AlmightyJio
    @AlmightyJio Рік тому +1

    I don’t think Ernie gets enough respect for his shirt drip game 🔥

  • @blkai28
    @blkai28 Рік тому +7

    When you mentioned her killing potential threats I thought Moira, that failed, then Emma, then Emma sharing what she learned with Council, then Jean was on the Council, then “why do this when she knows it fails”
    Now that I’m writing this she left the Council to be an Xman before the reveal

  • @rtuggle82
    @rtuggle82 Рік тому +1

    I didn’t take this book to be Jean literally going back in time. But rather an introspection of pivotal moments in her life that she examines in an attempt to find if there was something different that could’ve been done to avoid the Fall of X. She shouldn’t be able to maintain consciousness long enough to do all this before fading away into the beyond. It almost feels like her soul could be stuck in this state of introspection because those were her final thoughts before she died at the gala.
    We don’t know much about the blight-whatever that coated the dagger that killed her. Only that it was obtained from otherworld, a realm of magic. Perhaps this prolonged consciousness is an after effect of that.

    • @Mitsu2040
      @Mitsu2040 Рік тому

      I do believe Jean's consciousness can exist outside of her mortal shell, like in the White Hot Room, maybe? The Phoenix is the nexus of all psionic energy and Jean is an omega level telepath, so there could be a connection there. It's probably why she appeared to people in visions and such when she was dead.

    • @Mitsu2040
      @Mitsu2040 Рік тому

      Also, during the teen Jean Grey's solo comic, Jean appeared to her as a 'ghost' and even Dr. Strange couldn't sense her.

    • @rtuggle82
      @rtuggle82 Рік тому +1

      @@Mitsu2040 I remember that. There was not real explanation given to it so I just thought the writers got sloppy.

    • @Mitsu2040
      @Mitsu2040 Рік тому +1

      @@rtuggle82 lol, probably!

  • @82RayJay
    @82RayJay Рік тому +1

    I love how you make us like the video. You just flow into it ❤😂🎉

  • @alexwalker9593
    @alexwalker9593 Рік тому +2

    An X-Book by Louise Simonson! I'm in 100%

  • @slf_rldtv4482
    @slf_rldtv4482 Рік тому +1

    I don’t know why, but I’m suddenly compelled to hit the like button

  • @Bwrandon
    @Bwrandon Рік тому

    Uncanny X-Men 281 is basically a self resurrection

  • @TheOther644
    @TheOther644 Рік тому +4

    I thought this would be about her in the Astral Plane, not her creating a what if scenarios to see what would have happened 🤷‍♂

    • @Mitsu2040
      @Mitsu2040 Рік тому +1

      I know, I'm a bit disappointed in that. She could have battled the Shadow King and done other stuff in the astral plane to help bring down Orchis.

    • @TheOther644
      @TheOther644 Рік тому +1

      @@Mitsu2040 Against the Shadow King, and who knows what also she'll find in the astral planes sounds alot better than what is actually going on.

  • @OUTSIDER40
    @OUTSIDER40 Рік тому

    Thank you for making this video 👍

  • @Deacontime1
    @Deacontime1 Рік тому

    My kinetic manipulation granted me a kind mindset, which gives me psychic immunity... good vid man

  • @julianbryantjb
    @julianbryantjb Рік тому +4

    Jean grey is a very dynamic character. She could have healed herself with enough focus a knife through the chest she could alt blood loss, bind planets together and then bind tissue fiber s together all while communicating with fire star. It is just the plot the directs her to die. She needs to be given more growth as a character. She is always Scott summers wife even though he has been with Emma frost and or teased with the closeness of wolverine. This story of krokoa, resurrection, and the cabal of orchis there is the offer of a better world and way. It is not allowed to be because the actions of those who could destroy them. I would have loved to see her completely level nimrod, but they have to drag it out a few more decades. I don't know what is their left to tell with the technological Conclusion of this story arc. That fact that the X-Men don't have any allies asking the bigger questions of who and how they are done in at a social gathering in which dignitaries were present and so were heroes. Tachalla, namor, reed richards, the avengers, there are very few other than captain America and iron man or even Wilson risk how can see what truly happened. I remember how hope summers went in on bastion when she got back from her and cables future and how that impacted both hero and villain alike with the A vs X storyline. Why isn't there anyone out side of the story able to see what happened? Again plot and the direction the story is going, but where is this going? This also stinks of genosha all over again with weapons run amok with no oversight.

    • @wakamoon1910
      @wakamoon1910 Рік тому +3

      jean got stabbed by a blightswill knife meaning her powers aren't working as well as they usually would be.

    • @Mitsu2040
      @Mitsu2040 Рік тому

      I feel like the plot of Fall of X wasn't good when you think about the details. Several mutant characters had to be nerfed or completely absent from the gala in order for the story to happen. Remember how Exodus utterly wrecked Selene just a few issues prior? But he was somehow twiddling his thumbs during the gala. Hope and Proteus? Same. Storm who put down Vulcan in a single strike? Nowhere to be seen. Jean who surrounded herself with telekinetic energy couldn't sense someone moving in on her? Or even have her telekinetic shields up during a massacre? Plot needed to happen. Bad writing, I say.

    • @Mitsu2040
      @Mitsu2040 Рік тому

      And where was Legion? I already forgot the plot for Knights of X

  • @Djminor321
    @Djminor321 Рік тому +2

    Jean Grey not staying dead? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you🙄😂

  • @mrdude88
    @mrdude88 Рік тому

    The thing about rewriting memory is that, the memory will heal and return and when it does, it never ends well.

  • @malicyoung9293
    @malicyoung9293 Рік тому

    Man, I hit the like button but I don't remember hitting it. Did blerd just wipe my mind? Oh, dear.

  • @NeterRafi77
    @NeterRafi77 Рік тому +2

    Just make her into an anti hero and avenge the nation of Krakoa. Like she is dark phoenix ghost rider

    • @rajohnbutler7131
      @rajohnbutler7131 Рік тому

      I would totally be down for that if they just let Jean cut loose and start reminding the bad guys what angry looks like

  • @hellblaze10
    @hellblaze10 Рік тому +2

    Mutants are just in a forever damned if ya do damned if ya don't situation aren't they?

    • @Paur
      @Paur Рік тому

      Spiderman: Welcome to the party. I ate all the dip.

  • @damaruslove8688
    @damaruslove8688 Рік тому

    Is that why I have a hankering for pb and jelly sandwiches 🥪 now you wiped my memory 😂

  • @okunrounmupelumi1194
    @okunrounmupelumi1194 Рік тому

    Liked, subscribed and activated notifications.
    Why did i do that???

  • @brianamaral6061
    @brianamaral6061 Рік тому

    Can't wait for the rest of this series!

  • @2123lotto
    @2123lotto Рік тому

    Jean doesn’t like The Mag man never did 😂

  • @hughtims
    @hughtims Рік тому

    I finally have a shirt in common with BWF!

  • @zfr7723
    @zfr7723 Рік тому

    6:20 Weren't they having a problem with bringing people back who died on Genosha? Resurrection doesn't work for them...

  • @davedavenport8487
    @davedavenport8487 Рік тому

    haha liked the vid (which I never do) ....
    we had a conversation?

  • @AdrianMendoza23
    @AdrianMendoza23 Рік тому

    Jean actin a damn fool in this issue.

  • @OdisAuttonberry
    @OdisAuttonberry Рік тому

    Blerd I hit the like whenever I start the video so I remember. I hit the like even if I don’t like it.

  • @Tony-dv5fs
    @Tony-dv5fs Рік тому

    5:17 I liked the video….I am not sure why

  • @brianamaral4604
    @brianamaral4604 Рік тому

    I CANNOT wait for the next issue!

  • @burton7838
    @burton7838 Рік тому

    Yes, she does so after becoming a poison.

  • @Cothica100
    @Cothica100 Рік тому +1

    I think Jean is the SIngularity Being that we saw at the end of Sins Of Sinister

    • @keithrchapman
      @keithrchapman Рік тому

      I think that you may be on to something. I assumed that it was M.R.But it could be Jean.

  • @dayingnightmare9777
    @dayingnightmare9777 Рік тому +2

    if jean grey somehow is sleeping in westview while at the same time wanda create reality (like in wandavision) can jean grey resists the magic from wanda as soon as she awake?

    • @Ephideltrance
      @Ephideltrance Рік тому +4

      Possible, we saw Wanda was mentally controlling people to act their parts. Some normal folks had little moments where they broke character. Jean mind is incredibly powerful, so there is no way Wanda can mentally alter it to play any role. She may get trapped in West View, but she will not be manipulated. It's just a matter of confronting Wanda after that.

    • @ingonyama70
      @ingonyama70 Рік тому +3

      Wanda's powers are innately magical, she's not mind-controlling so much as casting charm & domination spells. Jean was born with her telepathy, it's intrinsic to her being - and it's her Omega-level mutation, meaning she has no limit to what she can achieve within its boundaries.
      While I do think comparing Jean's powers and Wanda's is like apples and oranges, in the theater of mind manipulation, Wanda really doesn't hold a candle to Jean.

    • @areyoulookingbitch7065
      @areyoulookingbitch7065 Рік тому

      ​@@Ephideltrancejean can easily controll wanda mind and get out.

    • @areyoulookingbitch7065
      @areyoulookingbitch7065 Рік тому

      ​@@ingonyama70at all and I wish they stop comparing and putting wanda on Jean Level with or without the Phoniex

  • @uxm4life94
    @uxm4life94 Рік тому

    What If vol 1 issue 27 and vol 2 issues 32/33- show exactly what happened if Jean Grey had remained Dark Phoenix! Why have no modern X-men "fans" actually read any X-men comics before the MCU!

  • @uxm4life94
    @uxm4life94 Рік тому

    "Jean Grey sacrificed herself to save the humans on board as well as the X-men"!?! By "human(s) I assume you mean Peter Corbeau?

  • @michaelturner1454
    @michaelturner1454 Рік тому

    This like is hilarious!

  • @ytsi7505
    @ytsi7505 Рік тому

    5:09 Sith Lord without fear

  • @koolcaz7778
    @koolcaz7778 Рік тому

    Xmen 101

  • @Grimlock987
    @Grimlock987 Рік тому

    Can you put the where you got that shirt from?

  • @Mitsu2040
    @Mitsu2040 Рік тому

    I'm not crazy about What-If stories. I guess I'll have to wait and see how I feel about it when it all wraps up at the end.

    • @Lucretia19
      @Lucretia19 11 місяців тому

      how many issues is this comic

    • @Mitsu2040
      @Mitsu2040 11 місяців тому

      @@Lucretia19I believe that it's only four issues.

    • @Lucretia19
      @Lucretia19 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Mitsu2040 ohh I thinks too short

    • @Mitsu2040
      @Mitsu2040 11 місяців тому

      @@Lucretia19 I agree, but considering most of it is "what-if" material, I'm not too bothered.

  • @SiriuslyBlack7
    @SiriuslyBlack7 Рік тому

    Professor Ernie X!!😂

  • @phonkp
    @phonkp Рік тому

    This issue really solidified for me that Jean is kind of the worst.

  • @fendisaintlaurent4257
    @fendisaintlaurent4257 Рік тому +1

    There can be no What If Jean Grey stayed Dark Phoenix be sure at that time she wasn't officially the Phoenix. The Phoenix copied her body and took on her essence. So leading back too me saying "Jean Grey" never went "dark".

    • @Mitsu2040
      @Mitsu2040 Рік тому

      Maybe a little during Endsong, but that Phoenix was already corrupted before they merged

  • @uxm4life94
    @uxm4life94 Рік тому

    Do you know who else already knew that Sinister would betray the X-men and infect/replace them? Everybody except the All New All Worse soulless Plant Clones!

  • @uxm4life94
    @uxm4life94 Рік тому

    Was really hoping Jean Grey would have been in the White Hot Room, watching her fascist plant clone counterparts with utter disgust and getting ready to resurrect the real X-men!

  • @violaine1
    @violaine1 Рік тому

    You're such a goofball 😊

  • @joenuyen6017
    @joenuyen6017 Рік тому

    Part of my problem w the mutant resurrection storyline, is like many of the X-men, they’ve come back with divine means before. Why haven’t we seen someone come back from those means after being brought back by an egg? So take Jean, she was brought back via egg after the Space raid in HoxPox, what is stopping her from willing herself back then too? Then you’d have a Jean problem, I feel like it’s a story they don’t care to get really into…see talon n x23

    • @qizaarzomar3614
      @qizaarzomar3614 Рік тому

      Well, does she have to ressurect where she dies? If so she would ressurect in the middle of space and just die over and over again.

  • @jackrook8715
    @jackrook8715 Рік тому

    *red triangle*

  • @grannywisconsin7119
    @grannywisconsin7119 Рік тому

    Who would win if jean grey from dark phoenix movie and doctor Manhattan from watchmen movie fight each other?

    • @hellblaze10
      @hellblaze10 Рік тому

      Manhattan far more control over his mental facaltys

  • @patd9850
    @patd9850 Рік тому +4

    orcas isn’t playing fair!!! So why should Jean play fair.

    • @hellblaze10
      @hellblaze10 Рік тому

      Caues it dose more harm then good.

    • @patd9850
      @patd9850 Рік тому +1

      @@hellblaze10 all those pleasantries are exactly what I got mutants killed. So if you’re going to hold back on your opponent. who clearly aren’t holding back on you. You’re pretty much guarantee to lose. Since you’re giving them a chance to attack, in ways you don’t expect.

    • @hellblaze10
      @hellblaze10 Рік тому +1

      @@patd9850 Their enemy was smart cunning and brutality efficient. Wile the mutants were arrogant, distracted and vastly underestimated there enemy. Thats what doomed them.

    • @patd9850
      @patd9850 Рік тому

      @@hellblaze10 Actually Mutants held back. If they didn’t, we have a whole different story now. Then folks will be calling mutants villains. Regardless of the doing shit for the survival. Since clearly their enemies don’t seem to understand the word stop.

    • @patd9850
      @patd9850 Рік тому

      @@hellblaze10 the only reason they gave the world universal medication, was a bargaining chip so that they could be left alone and lives. Not being bothered or hunted by hate groups. Guess magneto was right!!! All jokes aside, will be funny when the sentinels start targeting humanity. As sentinels will come to the conclusion. Mutants are born from humanity.

  • @LeLeB37
    @LeLeB37 Рік тому

    Jean coming back from the dead huh? Shocker lol

  • @FreddieLane9001
    @FreddieLane9001 Рік тому

    Yaaaay doctor whooo!

  • @vision5541
    @vision5541 Рік тому +1

    Shouldn't Rouge be able to activate The 5's protocol on her own? 🤔

    • @Mitsu2040
      @Mitsu2040 Рік тому +1

      And Synch is still out there, too!

    • @vision5541
      @vision5541 Рік тому +1

      @@Mitsu2040 Forgot. Can he use multiple abilities at the same time also?

    • @Mitsu2040
      @Mitsu2040 Рік тому +1

      @@vision5541 I believe he can, but to be honest I can't confirm 100%

  • @thebernardchang
    @thebernardchang Рік тому

    🙏

  • @ijimenez5
    @ijimenez5 Рік тому

    🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

  • @Nikke283
    @Nikke283 Рік тому

    I....want...like...the ...video...

  • @TayMan52PSK
    @TayMan52PSK Рік тому

    👍🏿

  • @ladonte1980
    @ladonte1980 Рік тому

    I'm glad she doing it! You get tired of turning cheeks! Sometimes you gotta smack em!

  • @roguephoenix
    @roguephoenix Рік тому

    she might finally retake the phoenix and revive everyone. she would be too powerful though so maybe they'll make it so she makes a bargain that if the phoenix needs her she would go.
    damn! i was going to like the video but then i found out i was just being manipulated! jk lol

  • @uxm4life94
    @uxm4life94 Рік тому

    Isn't the entire Krakoa story arc about segregationist mutants forcing everyone to fear and hate them?

  • @ericsauer7389
    @ericsauer7389 Рік тому

    Mf I liked the video. Yw. 😂

  • @goodknight5783
    @goodknight5783 Рік тому

    Doesn't the Waiting Room, created by Wanda, still exist?

    • @cosmicentity1077
      @cosmicentity1077 Рік тому +1

      this is comics, some things are left forgotten

    • @goodknight5783
      @goodknight5783 Рік тому +1

      @@cosmicentity1077 Sadly, too true.

    • @BiG-JuPO1O1
      @BiG-JuPO1O1 Рік тому

      ​@@cosmicentity1077Especially every writers ignores another writer story/canon is an issue with comic book writers. For new fans especially from MCU, it's hard for them to even follow an actual timeline.

  • @megabear8905
    @megabear8905 Рік тому

    Did anyone actually die during the Hellfire Gala?

    • @danielivanov930
      @danielivanov930 Рік тому

      Didn't you see what Nimrod did to the newly elected X-MEN ? 😅 Jubilee,Dazzler,Frenzy with other 2 mutants died there . Juggernaut was beated and probably is held in Orchis facility but he's alive i belive . Lourdes Chantel also died when she teleported the remaining mutants who resisted Xavier's telepathy in the arms of Emma Frost . They are dead for now till the five come back somehow or revive them if they manage to find settlement in where are they at rn .

    • @ingonyama70
      @ingonyama70 Рік тому

      Frenzy, Prodigy, and Jubilee are currently deceased, as is Lordes Chantel. Cannonball and Dazzler were caught in Nimrod's initial impact, but they both have immortality/resurrection as part of their canonical power set so that's not likely to stick.

  • @renahgade1750
    @renahgade1750 Рік тому +1

    Blasphemy! I remember that you telepathically forced me to like the video! 😱 Karma is real 😠

  • @withonforafteratbyin
    @withonforafteratbyin Рік тому

    must.... click...... thumb.............

  • @knicksfule
    @knicksfule Рік тому

    All this weeks fall of x releases felt like filler. Jean and X-Force were good

  • @LarryDWilmore79
    @LarryDWilmore79 Рік тому

    I gave you a like but I don’t like Jean (Phoenix)