Im a male with CAH. Im prescribed Cypinate 180mg per week and Deca 100mg per week. Even at 100mg I notice the biggest difference in everything. My metal clarity comes back, my achy joints stop hurting, my energy levels are insane and actually stops me from fading from the testosterone my severe depression (depressed for no reason) all goes away. I naturally produce to much androgens caused from elevated levels of DHEA 800-850 . All I know legally prescribed gear literally has saved me from wanting to put a bullet in my head.
I’m in the same boat, I was prescribed all kinds of nasty anti depressants and anti psychotics. Did loads of bloods and came back with very low test, after 6 weeks on cyp (120mg) I literally have a different life.
@@brightongardeningservices2178 I love hearing folks say there life has gotten better. One of my customers got checked out for his issues and TRT has saved his marriage. Hormones dont get discussed enough, I hope better educational protocols are taught to PCP doctors treating their local communities in the coming years
My little brother was in a near death car accident about 17 years ago. He crushed his femur, amongst other things. The doctors said it would take 3 -4 months before he could walk again. I took it upon myself to administer him with 400 mgs of nandrolone decoanate, and 200 mgs of test cypionate every ten days. He was up and walking within 9 weeks.
I’m 50y ,living in Dallas and I’m taking 200mg of Testosterone and 100 of Deca from TRT National and I’m feeling Amazing. My blood pressure 111 /75 for the past year. I have not eating junk food at all for 13 months.
I feel like this guy is talking to me when I watch his videos. I love how he does this for us so that we can make more informed decisions. Thank you for all you do Doc.
I ran Test E at 300mg/week and Deca at 150mg/week for 12 weeks. I was 42 y/o and I have pain in my knees and elbows from years of training. During my cycle the pain went completely away. I felt brand new and my workouts were phenomenal. I didn’t have any sides at all except for some sleep issues and maybe some increased anxiety, but that’s it. No ED issues and my libido was through the roof constantly. I’ll probably add in some more cycles of Deca occasionally just for the pain relief alone. At my age with all of the training the Deca provides excellent benefits. Just keep the doses as low as possible.
hello, i orderd test enth and deca , i have injected 2ml of test, and 1ml of deca last week on same day. my right testicle is sore, my skinn is oily and injection site is very sore.... but no other affects, no strength no energy change, no muscle pump change... no veins popping.... i think my skin is oily becuase of the cotton seed oil suspension..should i be using an anti e with it? im very disappointed perhaps stuff is fake. the name brand for the deca is (ALPHA Pharmaceuticals), and the Test enthanate brand is called ( FORZA Farmaceuticals) sorry i dont know mgs... im canadian the syringes are in Milliliters
Great to hear! I'm on Doc prescribed 100mg TCyp/week, and working around a torn rotator cuff and torn meniscus. Any thoughts,good or bad, to adding 50mg of Deca as a long-term, joint friendly TRT?
i did 1 ml of test enathate 2x a week and 1 ml of decca once a week and i was ok no pct no noting on or after no decca dick and i had over 55 surgery's in da last 20 years due to my car accident but then i herd decca takes 6 months to get out of ur system just before summer i like to do tren for 1 month but give me ur thoughts on this
I started on Deca only in 2014 (Age 45) due to bad knee pain, and it was amazing. Have only been off for 6 months due to knee replacement surgery. I have since tried most of the available steroids. I have come down to test/deca only and its still a life saver. I have arthritis and fibromyalgia but a healthy diet and a couple weekly injections keeps me alive and kicking.
hello, i orderd test enth and deca , i have injected 2ml of test, and 1ml of deca last week on same day. my right testicle is sore, my skinn is oily and injection site is very sore.... but no other affects, no strength no energy change, no muscle pump change... no veins popping.... i think my skin is oily becuase of the cotton seed oil suspension..should i be using an anti e with it? im very disappointed perhaps stuff is fake. the name brand for the deca is (ALPHA Pharmaceuticals), and the Test enthanate brand is called ( FORZA Farmaceuticals) sorry i dont know mgs , i am canadian and the syringes say MLs
@@Mbehr24I’ve been on 150 test and 120 deca for about 2 months. It’s the best of everything I’ve tried. I feel great and my little friend is acting like he’s 19 not 64. Amazing. I’m getting some indication of maybe my estrogen being high so I might back the test down to 130 and see what happens. But for me the main thing is the resolution of my ed, and in such an amazing fashion. I’m not kidding I just think about sex and he responds. Even if I just did it an hour ago. My libido however is normal, not like when I tried tren and got an insane libido and ed at the same time. That was frustrating. Hope this helps some.
Deca has always been good to me. :D I get the biggest gains on it, but as long as I can still walk when im older, that alone is a good enough reason to use it for me. My girlfriend was having hives for over a month and I gave her a small dose of Deca, and until this day no hives ever came back. Amazing stuff.
I do a 100 mg deca/100 mg test (alternating weekly) for an 8 week cycle. I do it maybe once a year. It tones me up and has really helped my joints. The results are noticeable. I have never had any side effects apart from the slimming of the waist.
you would have to have severe health issues to witness any side effects...... not only it's a very low/safe dosage, but test and deca injectables, are probably 2 safest steroids ever...... injectable version of these drugs are almost harmless to liver
Your dosages are so low and the fact that you are taking breaks that you shouldn’t have any significant side effects or health issues. If it’s working stick with it.
I'm 48, 5th wk on 300mg test cypionate an 250mg deca durabolin once a week. Great strength and size gains. Some water retention. Looking forward to finishing this cycle to see the progress. Then 2mo off and back on. Jus my 2cents
I'm at 190lbs low body fat, some water retention and acne/zits, health is good considering my other conditions and age. Overall I'm very satisfied and pleased with my results and processes. My weight, strength, family, health, life, sex life, is all better. I hope you get good and safe results my friend
I'm starting my test/deca cycle today. It's 120mg of test e and c each, with 160mg of deca. I'll be doing 2ml per injection, so roughly 400mg of test and 300 deca per week. Suffer with bad back pain, so looking forward to see if it helps that, and get me off these damn painkillers.
I have used 50mg of Deca every three weeks for three months along with 100mg of Testosterone Enanthate every week to heal various joint injuries and it was more than enough for me.
Why wouldn't you just use 50mg of deca a week along with the test. I use 50 mg of NPP eod with 100 mg of test prop eod. I consider that my TRT Plus and it works great with little to no side effects
I am currently on 200mg Test Cyp a week, taken in two shots per week, and 100mg a week Deca, two shots a week. I feel great. Been on this protocol for 3 months. My blood pressure is good, don't notice much in the way of water retention. I also take a low dose aspirin, and donate blood every 6-8 weeks. Recent blood work showed total Test at 950 and free at 18. Addendum: I am currently 48 years of age.
How can u donate blood when u use supraphysiological androgens?? and donating blood so often lowers iron levels hard. these do not recover quickly enough to go and donate every 6-8weeks.
@@TzillVirmalRS donating blood every 6-8 weeks helps to lower one's hematocrit levels and keep them in check. It's probably every 8 weeks. I don't study the calendar. I get a lot of iron in my diet. And I use the Red Cross. They don't have a problem with my blood, and the Testosterone levels in my blood are NOT at supraphysiological levels. They are clinically high normal.
I'm doing 150mg of testosterone cypionate every 5 days and 300mg of deca a week . My water retention actually went down from before when i was doing 300mg of test every 5 days i actually feel way better
Im 4 weeks into Sustanon 250 (100mg weekly) / decca (100mg weekly) / anavar (20mg daily). I have noticed DRAMATIC improvements with my injuries (ACL tears, rotors cuffs etc). I find during and after a workout arthritic pains are non existent, i noticed this from the 2nd day. I find im getting tired earlier on in the evening than im used to, probably due to the fact im working out twice a day. Ive gained roughly 8kg of size, nothing in my wardrobe fits me anymore. Nothing negative to say regarding labido, im still bashing it like it owes me money.
Hello .. how you you doing now ? Im going through same now im 4 week post ACL just started TRT 250 every 5 days soon im planing to combine deca what's your suggestion
@@naemmograbi384 Over a year now and ive changed things a bit. Ill now do 600mg test E (i found it way more stable hormonally). 400mg decca and 40mg per day of dbol for 4 weeks. Honestly bro just recommended medical dose of deca would suffice. Not enough to play any major part in hormonal changes or effect you dramatically except in the way that its going to benefit you. BPC 157 is also something id recommend looking into for that, its a wonder drug for repair
@@TheAnthony0852 ive been running the same compounds for about 2 years now, still no side effects except im massive and cant scratch my back. I run them for 20 weeks now instead of 12 though. You do need to be very mindful of estrogens. I cannot recommend an arimidex dose as everyone differs so much with estrogen control, what works for me may not for you but i will say this. It is way easier to crash it than have too much estrogen so i suggest starting light with it
So you say deca definitely helped you going through this recovery , This coming week about to combine deca 50 with my TRT , ive done deca something like 10 years ago i still remember how good my joints felt , Actually im asking you all this cause im at week 8 i still dont have full range of motion i cant full straighten my knee im a little bit nervous about it cant wait to start deca !
Ran 12 week cycle of 200 deca and 200 test E. Massive size and strength gains. Sex drive through the roof. However, developed bad paranoia (never had mental health issues before), night sweats, insomnia, BP went from 115systolic to 135systolic, and after 9 months still suppressed despite 2 cycles of PCT with nova and clomid. Took enclomiphene for 4 weeks, just finished, balls have grown massive, can’t wait to test my Test levels!
7 months on TRT at 200mg and just moved it up to 300mg and using deca for 6 weeks started at 150mg now at 200mg. I do my blood work every 3 months to make sure im good 👍🏼 everything is still running fine, sex life is a blast.
I’m a 33 year old male been on test for almost a year and after hurting my shoulder and it not getting better I decided to jump on test and decca. Will keep you guys updated
@@MeanBeanComedy its by no means unreasonable. 130/85 is considered the new norm. 120/80 is considered ideal, but remember, drug companies have blood pressure medications to sell. The guy is fine. Can more than likely get it lower with diet.
Was taking 200 test e 2x per week for about a year. My hemoglobin was over 19. Had a few phlebotomy to get back to 16. Now I'm 62 and take 50 Dec with 100 test e 1x per week. Feel great 2 months after meniscus surgery. Will have my bloods done in a few weeks.
@tonehernandez8598 I stopped taking it about 6 months ago due to the high hemoglobin and my age but it worked great for the few years I used it. I didn't feel like going for the constant phlebotomy every week. They were messing up my veins.
Ill tell you what will help with high hemoglobin. Grapefruit the actual grapefruit . Also constant phlebotomy will deplete your ferritin . I been their feels like crap
I have been on Deca and Test C for the last 5 years. Test C(TRT) 140mg per week and 60mg Deca a week. I love my recovery time in the gym. I have had HBP before TRT and it is controlled by meds and nothing has had changed over the years
Hello bro, I’ve just got sustanon 250, test ex-c200, an Deca (nandrolone) I’m a first time user, any advice on how much of each to take an do I mix it in 1 or do 3 separate injections, thanks bro
I’ve only done low dose (100mg test 100mg Deca per week) for 6 weeks. Noticeable results. Once a year I do this to break a plateau. Gonna try doubling to 200mg Cip 200mg Deca for 4 weeks end of this year. I’m 51. I hear 6 weeks made more sense but mor concerned with side effects than growth.
Each cycle ive done of deca and test I've never had any issues. Mind you I pin 1ml of 300mg deca and 1ml of 250mg test enanthante both once a week only Saturday is test and wednesday is deca And I've seen huge results in strength with weight gain which is what I'm going for. I started in 2019 at 190lbs. Now 2022 I'm at 239.8lbs With 4-6 month breaks in between.
I too had used Deca for joint pain and loved it. Fixed my knee pain right up, only problem is when you comes off after awhile the pain comes back sadly. So I said to myself what's the since of taking the risk.
42yr old Male 200lbs weekly dosages are 750mg test 450mg deca 150mg Clomid .5mg Anastrazole since June 2021. Slight adema twice only lasted a day. Body temp stays pretty warm. Sex drive through the roof. Slight insomnia...sleep 4-5 hrs a nite...train 6 days a week..
Im on only deca for 3 months and getting my blood check in a couple of days. My libido is perfect, my mood is so good. It seems like deca makes me happy. Im taking it with 20ui per week of estrogen injection. The deca dose is 200mg by the way.
I currently run 200mg a week of Test Cyp for my TRT protocol from my local TRT clinic. Did 16 weeks of Deca at 100mg a week from that same clinic. I had never felt better than when I was on Deca. No joint pain, better training sessions, more energy, bigger appetite and more sleep. Even at that low dose of Test and Deca I made some seriously impressive gains. However, now that I’m off Deca my joint pain has come back along with a reduction in appetite and sleep. Planning to run the 200mg Test and 100mg Deca indefinitely now since it’s safe to do so with low, therapeutic, dose Deca and proper quarterly bloodwork.
Hello m8, I’ve just got sustanon 250, test ex-c200, an nandrolone (Deca) my first time using, any recommendations on what doses I should do, an should I put them altogether? Thanks bro
I only had very positive experiences using Deca and TE. Usually 200mg/week, then for a few weeks 400mg. Never ever went over that and never had any issues. TE 500mg/week.
Recently did bloodwork on a cruise dose of 250mg/125mg Test & DECA Monday/Thursday… mood & mobility excellent, there were some sides but they are manageable. You should have anastrozole & caber on-hand. That helped a lot to reduce the night sweats & accompanying mild acne. I use Tadalafil to control blood pressure (122/79 -48 y.o.) The results? 3100 total T. Now, for me that is not my idea of a “cruise” dose. I halved the weekly test & DECA (125/65) and will be doing labs again at the end of this month. AMA
I seem to be hyper sensitive to test and or deca. I have had to continuously bring down the dosage to find the minimum effective dose and so far it is a 1 to 1 ratio of test/deca at 10mg/10mg injected every 2-3 days. Yes, that’s only 40-60 total mg a week. Still gives me an edge and more importantly minimal sides. 49yr male
I've used Test with Deca for 2 years now. Test 400 and Deca 100 / week. Deca really helped my knee and shoulder injuries but I am careful with increasing the weights. Instead more reps and sets to prevent injury.
I finished last week my 15 week cycle and now im on 250sust 2xweek and i added 300 deca a week. I have cronic tendinosis con my shoulder and my elbow was hurting increasinly over the past 4 months. Since i added deca , all pain went away. Maybe Will reduce to 100-150 a week and see if the pain stays away. I always mix hypertrophy with strenght, i like training heavy but i also dont want to push my injuries to the limit. We gotta stay safe and healthy bud
@@adrianpapibuilder I agree. Sounds good. Actually I meant to say 200 susta 2x per week. I dose 50mg deca before I exercise legs (knee problem) and a couple days later dose 50mg before shoulder exercises. I might go up to 150 / wk as I feel a little pain now I'm pushing a bit more.
@@beyond_the_infinite2098 deca half Life is 7-9 days. You could just jab once a week. Im jabbing 2xweek atm until i finish with susta and start 200 test e.
Great video! I'm 25 and ive used Test and other derivatives for years! This is one of my favorite cycles! Currently i'm running 1ML = 250mg Testosterone Enanthenate, and 1ML = 250mg of Nandralone Deccanate twice weekly and im loving the cycle! Sex drive is abnormally high, no "Decca Dick", BP stays slightly Hypertensive with 130/85 being AVG.. No alcohol consumption, low carb, high protein diet. Vitamin D3 5000IU 1x, Vitamin C 5000mg 1x, Calcium 1000mg 1x, 325mg aspirin 1x, 50mg Metoporol 1x, and 1000mg Fish Oil 1x all daily. So far roughly 7LBS. gained in 3 weeks of cycle. Taking into factor some things stated above! May look into some liver support and detox for PCT with Arimadex and Chlomid.
I've done roids all my life. Never a problem until my late 40s. I'm running 625mgs Test e a week and 500 Deca a week. Just recently my red blood cells increased so much it made my blood too thick and almost killed me. I could barely breath. ER doctors got it taken care of...guess I'll dial down the dosage..
So ill talk about my experience. Was on 160mg weekly testosterone for months. Felt amazing!!! doctor offered to prescribe deca so i did it. Went down to 120mg test and 100mg deca as prescribed. 10 weeks in i can say I'm stronger, lean muscle building and joint pain was awesome, sex life stayed awesome.. but my mood wasn't that great lol. I choose to be happy and always in a good mood on test and dropped the deca.. also noticed heart palpitations even tho i have a great diet and exercise regimen. I never had any Eco test though or my calcium number scan. Rbc, hemoglobin and hemocrit was in range. (Mid high side of good range).. maybe it was just time to put it down for a while or drop the dose?? Sustainability, most dudes cant take it for longer then 3-4 months.. on and off, hot and cold.. listen to me!! It's only worth it if you really need it! Its dangerous so watch yourself.. Deca is the big cousin of testosterone .. yea it has a higher anabolic effect buttttt if you take more test youll find its more then enough. My point is guys testosterone is enough. Eat clean train hard, focus on longevity. If you're on the fence about it? Make sure you're healthy and try it. Low dose dont be crazy see how u respond to it. Some people don't have any side effects till one day the worst one hits them and now regret it all.. my brothers, test is enough.. much love
I do 250mg of Test E and 250mg of Deca a week and it has done absolute wonders for me. Blood pressure slightly elevated but thats about it. It has literally changed my life completely. I am 37 yrs old and did both for the first time about a year ago. I look,feel, and i am in general a happier human being accross the board. But thats MY experience. No 2 guys are the same in doses and sides.
It's by far my favorite combo. You HAVE to do it right though, and everyone is different. My go to cycle is 400mg deca, 600mg cypionate. With all the supports, it's a great combo and blood work will still look good.
Yea only problem is if doctor can prescribe that much and if they can then prescription versions are ultra-expensive compared to the street, hopefully, I can get them on the street sometime soon.
Ok I was a power lifter for 16 consecutive years., age 31 to 47., never used test or steroids. But I did do pro hormones when I was getting ready for a meet. At age 49 to 54 I was on an Armwrestling team and competed all over. I started injecting Test E without much knowledge on it. Felt great. I do have pains in the shoulders, knees & back throughout most of my time competing from way back. I’ve watched numerous videos on test & deca. I’m now considering taking Test E 200 to 100 of Deca. Then again I may just do Test E with my Pro Hormone stack. I’m just confused and trying to build knowledge on the safest way to go. I’ve ran just Test over the last few years periodically because I still compete in my age group which will be 60 to 64. I turn 60 this April. I’m a type 1 diabetic for the last 32 years. I see my primary on a regular basis. Everything is pretty much in check. But my cholesterol is borderline of being a tad bit high. Any knowledge thrown at me would be much appreciated.
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I'm just here because I'm in the rabbit hole, but hey, this doc knows his stuff. Lots of interesting videos and some I've sent to Body builder friends on steroids. He sounds so passionate and genuine about what he does
I never have negative sides with Deca. I've run 500mg per week test with 400mg per week Deca. Felt great. Joints felt great. Just didn't like the way I looked. Too fluffy. Not ripped or grainy. Strict diet is a must if you want to look lean on Deca. Not forgiving like tren. Still run low dose of Deca on cycle for joints.
Do you think if you dropped dose a bit on both sides you might have been less fluffy? I can handle 500mg test easy, upped to about 600 and minor sides popped up (mostly pimples) so figured I found my threshold, am considering deca at some point potentially, like with test would progress dose up and find threshold, minimum requirement for maximum benefit is what I like to go for
@@benjaminprince6424 You are probably right. I’ve dropped to 400mg test on cycle when stacked with deca or tren. Less estrogen to deal with and gains are the same.
I started to mix DECA with Sustanon when I turned 60 years old, for shoulders and lower back. There were a significant improvement; less pain and more flexibility, also strength. I'm 64 now, and no water retention, but blood pressure is slightly high at times, more like up and down. My dosage is 250mg of Sustanon with 100mg of Deca, once a week.
Try using THC oil to get your bloodpressure lower. I'm smoking weed sometimes and it helps getting my bloodpressure lower. There are also other plants you can eat to lower your bloodpressure. You can drink thee with a special plant to lower your bloodpressure. 250mg per week is in my opinion high. But in the end, its all about how you feel. I would recommend to lower Sustanon but with deca, you need twice the amount of Testosteron to compensate the deca dick. Some won't have any issues when do 120mg or 100mg Testosteron with 100mg deca. Do what feels right and check your blood and ask a specialist. In America the doctors give the patients more testosteron than in Europe. I do 120mg Sustanon every week and I'm 38. I have low T of myself so I had depressions and moodswings because of that. Sexdrive was really bad. Now its perfect. I also blast 14 weeks of Testosteron with another compound. But my rule is to use 1,5 more testosteron than Deca. Just to be safe to not get a deca dick. If you inject too high Testosterone, you may feel more agressive, but if you don't feel that way, then do bloodwork every now and then and control your bloodpressure and you be fit until the day you die. I rather die at 75 or 80 and be fit and walk and train like a younger male then to be old and walking difficult because of the low T and grow hormone. I also used MK 677 and that might help too with your cartilage. I would recommend to use that on 10 or 20mg a day. It have helped growing my cartilage in my shoulders. It was gone on the left and right shouders. I had an ultrasound done, before 8 months and after 8 months MK 677. The result was that I had regained new cartilage in my shoulders. Everything wears off as you get older so it's good to have these medicine to help you feel younger again. Hope this helps!
After doing research on Deca I would assume most would run deca 2:1 with test, but it seems like most of the bro sites tell you thats nonsense and you "need the test" ... but isnt the deca "taking the place" of whatever test is aromatized ?
what is the difference ? appart from avoiding side effects ,what is your dosages and how is libido on this dosage ? PLEASE BE more specific it interrest alot of people
Ive taken 300 test 150 deca and suffered from high libido but not being as hard during sex. However never got full blown errectile dysfunction. Running 300 test 300 deca however; ED defo got me and cialis was my solution
It's funny all those potential side effects happen to people everywhere who do not take either test or nadralone. I forget the guys name but he runs a health clinic. He talked about his use with the lifting dermatologist. He said he took higher doses for nearly 20 years with no issues. I mean side effects are important but they need to be compared to what you'll be dealing with without being on the compound. I'm just saying being off is sometimes worse than being on.
Been on TRT for 3yrs. 32yr male. Tried Deca 3 times through my doc over the years. Plus is joint pain goes away almost immediately and stays away while on deca. The downside for me personally is, every time I ran it after I'd say 6weeks+ I would start to mentally feel blah. Like almost depressed to a certain extent. This is completely abnormal to my normal mind state. That's why I was able to notice it the first time I was on deca. And the deca dick usually hits me around 6weeks+ aswell. I've tried several different dosages with both test and deca and they all seems to eventually lead me back to both of those personal cons
same thing here.. this time i was using 150 test E + 150 deca... i also add 150 masteron e still got deca dick.. the mental state too... next time i'll try double the test, as @Anabolic Doc mention on his videos
I went back and forth for 30 years + testosterone 200 to 500 mg per week I switched off Deca and equipoise from 100 to 400 mg pet week ,, I always got super strong with the EQ, Yes I was a gold card person at the local blood bank, They loved me, The muscle pain when I had to stop was very bad...
Recently did a 12 week cycle of Rad-140 at 20mg a day and 150mg of Deca a week. I had great strength and size gain. I did not get puffiness on it but did notice my joints felt way better. I noticed visible vascularity and no Deca dick. Ive been off about a month and a half and my strength has not gone away.
Ran 300mg/wk Deca with 400mg/wk tri test blend (150mg of test C and E and 100mg of testP) felt great, sex drive was phenomenal, never had stiffer erections, only side towards end of 8wks was sensitive nips and a noticeable shrinkage in testicles.
When I begin cutting (march) I will drop the deca and up my test to 750 MG a week with frequent Injections along with Adex. Once the cut is over I will recomp with 350 test, 100 MG tren ace eod and 15 MG superdrol on lifting days.
Well, I am 73 so, forever isn't very long for me LOL! I just started taking prescription TRT. 120mg/wk of T and 80mg/wk of N. Taking the N for joint pain, haven't noticed much yet at 4 wks in. Been working out since I was 14. Not trying to gain just maintain and so far so good. My left shoulder is a mess though, no cartilage left so I am not doing any heavy bench pressing or overhead pressing. Everything is about pain management for me right now, trying to avoid shoulder replacement. Maybe they will get stem cell therapy perfected before I kick the bucket, hoping anyway.
Sir, you are jacked for 73, and if you are still boxing/striking that is even more impressive. I'm only 43 & pretty banged up, but the goal is to be in great shape & to be able to live a active life in my seventies still lifting, training bjj & muay thai, & enjoying my kids & grandkids.
You look phenomenal for your age man. I would imagine you're probably wondering why you waited so long to get on trt. Ive been on 110mg a week for almost a year now. Only thing I can share with guys is watch your blood pressure and check your hemoglobin
I run true TRT at 140mg /week dosed every other day with 0.25 adex, and 300iu hcg every fourth day - newer studies supporting this protocol for long term use to maintain efficacy without desensitization. Well-being is typically through the roof with this protocol, I have tons of drive in the gym and bed, test levels maintained at remarkably close to 1000 every time, free T is always between 250-300. BP is better than ever 115/65-125/75, resting PR in the 50s-60s. I do however have chronic soft tissue issues to the tune of 11 major ortho surgeries for various shoulder, neck, nerve, and hip injuries sustained in Afghanistan, the gym, and on the bjj mats. I have experimented with various doses of deca added on to TRT for less pain, better joint health, and prophylactic treatment for genetically tight and rigid tendons and ligaments. My experience is that the drug is very well tolerated physiologically at a maintenance dose of 105mg /week, BP and PR remain WNL, HDL decreases slightly but nothing concerning, no added estrogenic effects, E2 still in check with same adex dose, sex drive through the roof and erections are still rock hard. The only two major side effects I notice, which are significant, is a much harder time sleeping well through the night; I get a marked increase in relapse of bouts of insomnia, worse night time sweats, and will wake up hours earlier than my alarm and be unable to fall back asleep. The other, and equally important, issue is stress and anxiety. Anxiety definitely increases substantially with even these low doses. I’m much more stressed out about normal, daily stressors on a regular basis and more ‘on edge’ than is typical. There are days where these effects seem to be balanced out by the positive effects, ie I feel so good that My stress is reduced s/t the noticeable benefits, but overall it seems to be pretty close to an equal trade off. Whenever I stop I do usually feel much better within a month and seem to tell myself each time that I shouldn’t do that again, but of course the injuries catch up and I feel like I need it. May just be a cyclical need, and going on/off might ultimately be the best approach however, for whatever reason, I very much prefer the idea of a sort of ‘steady state’ with my medication and would much rather just figure out what’s best for me but that can actually be maintained long term, as I don’t like ‘cycling’ or experimenting so much anymore. Just want to feel and perform as best I can all the time while being mindful that I’m balancing overall health and longevity as well. I will be decreasing my dose to 52.5 mg /week for a few months and try to determine how much pain relief/joint health benefit I can get while also trying to minimize the anxiety and sleeplessness as much as possible. Will update anyone who’s interested!
Hey & thanx for sharing! Your protocol has one flaw: throw away the Adex!!! NO NEED for that at such a low dose T. Really. Adex reduces the benefits of the E2 for your joints and tendons dramatically. Especially in your condition this is important. I do TRT 125 mg - 250 mg: @250 my E2 is 100, twice above the max range. But I have no E2 sides. @125 mg T my E2 is in the high ref range (50): but here my back and joints hurt more. Even in BB the new concept is to stay lower with T and when you go higher with T, instead of AI you stack the T with Primo or Mast, which work as an sort of AI without the sides of an AI...
Awesome to see the replies, thanks y’all! Doctor Gazorpazorp - Not a corpsman, USMC infantry here. But I am now a nurse practitioner, so that’s where it comes from! 13Prometheus and newbluerugby - so I had always run some level of an AI because I’ve actually had two gyno surgeries already, one BL surgery related to PEDs, but also one prior, unilateral, for some gyno I developed after my first pump in Afghanistan. Personally I believe this was caused by the fact that we drank almost all of our water from regular cases of plastic water bottles that they would airdrop in pallets, and then would sit in the 100+ degree sun for hours or even days before we got them.. all the xenoestrogens is the only thing that makes sense to me but will never know for sure. So after I needed it again secondary to AAS I got very paranoid and I would definitely feel some sensitivity if I missed a week or so of my AI. After reading your post though I did a bit of research into those benefits of higher E2 and all the other ones. So about a month ago I switched to every other day dosing on my test and deca, just because of how it’s dosed, otherwise would have done ED. I also lowered my deca dose to 52.5mg / week (15mg EOD). After doing so I definitely felt like i got a noticeable improvement in my joint discomfort. Also felt a bit more full but not puffy, even though I lowered the deca dose. Mood and affect have definitely improved, noticeably more calm and level headed. Dealing with stress a bit better then I was with the higher deca + arimidex dosing. I know this type of medicine is not cookie cutter whatsoever but I definitely think this is a good place to start if you’re dealing with issues similar to me. I know I said I’m not particularly interested in experimenting much anymore but because of the significant benefit I realized by lowering deca, discontinuing adex, and increasing my dosing from every third day to every other day, I think I am going to try to change things up one more time and see how I would feel doing every day dosing with 12.5mg test and 5mg NPP for a total of 87.5mg test and 35mg NPP /week. Would love to get my overall dosages down and feel even better if both can be achieved simultaneously, which this recent adjustment has definitely at least made me think is possible. Please stay in touch, will continue to update if interested and would look forward to vice versa 🤙🏻
Wow interesting you bring this up doc cause that's what mixture I put together in my weekly syringe .I started test cypionate last year but there months ago I had Bought a 10 ml 250 mg bottle 🍾 of nandrolone .I primarily had an interest in it helping my hips .I thought at sometime I would need a hip replacement but thanks to nandrolone no more issues .I probably was just only beginning as I am 57 .I only plan to take this one bottle and be done and just stick with test cypionate .I also thought it would bring the known hairloss triggering androgens down along with gyno .I have no apparent adema .I also am taking finasteride and alternating dutasteride when I inject the test . plus using quarterd 10 mg of oral minoxidil to keep my hair intact .I don't experience any side effects of any of this .oh the first injection blend of test and nandrolone my libido was to the roof . getting erect at the drop of a hat but now normal .can always perform
I did 1ml deca and 1ml sustanon 250ml. My mood increased, confidence sky high. I gained about 20lbs. The only thing I didnt like was that my neck and head swole along with my muscles so I looked like I had no neck. My balls disappeared 😂, some sweaty nights sleep but overall....BRILLIANT! IVE never seen anyone mention this but when I ate food. My jaw, and muscles on side of head got pump so it felt like cramp in my head. Chewing food gave me aching pumps😂😂😂
I have been taking 100mg of deca with my test specifically for the joint pain. I am training for a strongman competition. I think a lot of that is dependent on your activity level as well. If you're sweating all day then go to the gym and get drenched in sweat 5x a week you're going to need more sodium than the average guy that's just on trt for hormone replacement. There's really nothing like deca for the joints but yes I'm not going to be on it forever. After my competition I will get off for 6-8 weeks before I get back on it again for the next competition.
60 year old, 200 mg a week of test cyp, just added 100mg of deca a week, would I get any muscle gains on this protocol? Doc said I'll be on deca for 10 weeks, off 10 weeks and back again on deca... Thank you guys for your time and help...
Doc, hurt my low back muscle 2 years ago, was basically bedridden for a month. Recovered but constantly had low back pain. Got on trt and was cured of back pain 2 weeks later. Amazing
I have the same issue lower back pain and my legs hurt sometimes and neck pain. I was on gear back in 2018 that was about it, I might go back on it. My body feels stiff now
My first anabolic cycle was with TE at 300mg per week and ND at 200mg per week. I got zero side effects, great strength gains with a little size gains, compared to a few peptides that I had tried which gave me incredibly bad side effects with zero gains. I just recently did another cycle of exactly the same compounds and same rates. 6 weeks later after stopping, no nonsense pct, I am still gaining with few aches, pains and lethargy creeping in. The cycle prior to this one, 12 months ago was with TP at 300mg per week and NPP at 200mg per week. No adverse side effects except for excessive hair growth on my shoulders and back. Not as much gains as TE and ND unfortunately.
Just sent in my blood work to get started on TRT hopefully I get the consultation tomorrow or Tuesday. I’m 31 years old 6 ft tall 198 lbs. consistently been in the gym for 12 months strait. My goal is 220-225 I’ve been looking at deca for a little while now to help get there. I know once I get off I’ll lose a lot of muscle is 210 lbs a realistic weight after I stop with just a TRT cruise?
I did a cycle of low dosed deca(300mg per week with 500mg sustanon) The acne was horrible and I had some sexual issues where I couldn't finish, no deca dick, In fact pretty much the opposite, some sleep issues but it made me feel great, no joint pain, elevated moods, appetite increased, the benefits outweighed the bad stuff
Love cruise on 250mg cyp 375mg Decca every 3 days 18 years some high bp controlled by losartion. Rb around 115. No erectile issues good for 4 times anite 65 yr old bench over 5 love this stack part of every day life
Been running a 400mg/ cc blend of cyp and anenthate for 4 weeks with 300mg/cc of deca. So 2 CC's weekly and the effects so far are a lot of aggression but no rage, BP is perfect, and the gains are awesome. Little edema but great energy. No progesterone effects so far. I'm 49 and have maintained a great workout regimen for decades.
My favorite cycle 500 sust tw/ wk & 400 nandrolone tw/wk, am 61 and I feel fine checking my blood tw/yr, cycles go from 10/12wks.my trt is 200 sust💪🏻tws/a year
I’m 59. On TRT hCG Sermorelin.. might change to tesamorelin.. I’ve also got some anavar. I took some last week 3 times. 25ml. Today I took 50ml. And I feel fantastic
I am a chronic pain sufferer. Pain management, I was told, will bring Test levels far below what is considered "average." I gathered up all my blood work-up for the past 5 years. My endocrinologist was shocked at how low my test levels were and how it was I had muscle mass. I have never used steroids as I never wanted to compete. I saw a Urologist yesterday who is putting me on a TRT using a testosterone gell. I am 59 and lifted most of my life. I am currently making noticeable gain. I hope this TRT will allow me the ability to recover easier. My question is, how is it I have been gaining muscle density without testosterone in my system? It was so low I had an MRI to see if I had some sort of brain tumor!!Lol! Should I expect better results when I begin TRT? Are there other androgenic/anabolic compounds used with test? I am 59 years of age, currently 208lbs, 5'7" and lift 3x a week.
Love Deca. Nothing has helped my old injuries like Deca has. It's clockwork that 2 days after my first pin with it I'm feeling some level of relief in my busted up finger joints & my lower back from my grappling days. I don't get Deca dong but it makes me disinterested in sex. It's not really that bad as it might seem it's just that I'm not interested in having sex at all so if you get it your girl might be pissed lol. Don't get me wrong, I can still have sex & get off etc but I couldn't care less about not doing it... I put on fantastic size with Deca using 400-500mg a week. It's cheap & affordable. For me Deca is my go to compound for size & strength. Yes the orals can slap on size fast but Deca size is more permanent then Anadrol or Dianabol & for a longer period of time vs your health & staying healthy. At least with me it is. You can always low dose Deca for joint relief if you don't want to jump on a half gram of it etc. For me the only side I get is the disinterest in sex. No estrogen issues. No Deca dong. I love it. My quality of life on it goes up so nicely. They should be studying Deca for it's joint relief alone. I mean I can go from needing pain pill relief to not needing anything when using Deca so to me it's on the level of miracle drug & should be looked at further to possibly isolate that pain relief aspect & potentially offer that in a medicine. It would transform lives if that happened.
@@MySmurfe Not really. You can find yourself getting pissed at things a little easier but your self restraint is more. I linen it to a lion with his cubs & his cubs are chewing at him but he knows better than to take that so seriously. I've never had any gyno issues with it. To me it's a pretty clean compound. Good size & good strength. Do not run Deca with Tren. They're related & you can run into big gyno issues doing this. It's a classic compound & I love it.
I am in my 50s and have been using low dose Deca on and off with TRT for a few years - and recently was prescribed long term use. I run about 100 mg / wk of each compound for 12 weeks then I lower the deca to 50 mg for another few months and repeat. I feel great - joint relief is amazing. Had all sorts of advanced cardio tests and everything is optimal. No one knows the long term effects of this but I’m going to keep doing this for the foreseeable future based on results.
Great to hear! 47 yr old here... Would you say the long term, relatively low dose "TRT-plus Deca" regimen has been joint/ligament/tendon regenerating?? Or the extra kick of Deca just simply takes away the pain signals that start to fire otherwise with only Test? I'm currently on Doc-prescribed 100mg TCyp/week, but considering adding in 50mg/week of Deca as a year-round "TRT-plus" regimen if it can help heal my torn rotator cuff and newly-acquired meniscus tear. Also, curious if you've noticed any hair and skin cosmetic enhancement, due to Deca being collagen-promoting?? Thanks so much for any thoughts and help on the matter.
@@anthonybewlz388 I feel it definitely helps long-term. Not only from the anti-inflammatory effect, but the low-dose deca will help add some muscle. I had a slight tear on my rotator cuff, and what helped tremendously was injecting BPC 157 directly into the muscle. Literally had no pain after like three days. Start working out again with light weights, and of course the added androgens from the TRT and deca helped build and stabilize the joint. My knees feel so much better as well because it allowed me to lift with light weights and build muscle - which further stabilized the joint and alleviated about 80 percent of the pain I had.
I am 28 been on trt for 4 years due to side effects from medication after surgery. I am on 125 test 125 deca. Bloods are within range minus 4 points above high end range for total test and shbg
My best friend used to use Deca. He would do 100mg of test and 100mg of deca per week. I’m looking into because I’m an arm wrestler and I’m experiencing elbow pain so bad it extras to fall asleep and if if I do fall asleep I wake up because my elbows are throbbing in massive pain and I refuse to give up the sport.
Definitely Npp and test is my favorite. I like Npp with sustanon. As far as sex drive ,outrageous. Lower test and higher Npp. Mood is great. Actually got into accident and fractured my wrist and my fracture healed very fast.
I have found that the best I’ve felt on trt was when I did 50mg test cyp (yes that is correct) and 120 deca per week. I had an insane libido. No deca duck. My joints felt awesome. My blood pressure didn’t change. I did this for a year. Now I’m off the deca for alittle while with just test cyp at 180 per week. Still feel really good but not as good as the deca had me. The main reason for being on deca was for my knees, which still feel great even off deca for about 4 months.
@@trickcyclist1 a guy I know told me to try that dosage combo. He swears by a deca based protocol. The test dose is just to keep my estrogen within range since deca doesn’t aromatize enough to keep estrogen at a healthy level.
Similar to my experience. If on just TRT i run 150mg per week. Test and deca combo I call it the old man cycle of 75mg T per week and 250mg deca per week i run for 10 weeks which i use mostly for back pain. After reverting back to TRT, the pain relief effects of deca seem to last several months. Run it every 9months or so seems to work fine.
Fascinating. I wonder how low I'd need to run the test if I were to add npp for my joints. I only take 50mg of test cyp a week for TRT because I hyper convert. 80mg a week puts me at an average of 1300 ng/dl on a 270-870 range and of course being that high causes E2 issues. 50mg keeps me in the 800s still. Would I need to drop that all the way to 25-30?
I do Deca only cycles. Treats me very well compared to Testosterone. Libido is good, gains are great, but no acne, no hairloss. Nothing! It does not work for everyone, but it does for me!
Having a libido with just taking decca and no test? Yeah ok bud. Never have i heard someone say that or just run decca or tren without test. Honestly its super stupid. Unless you are some kind of anomaly.
@@RichardsWorld in 1 gram yes...if u are aboout 400 600 a week will be fine... i am user..i am IFBB athlete..i still know something more..but yes..overall u have right
Deca has helped me with an old shoulder injury tremendously. I get a huge libido jump in the beginning of the cycle and then the last few weeks almost always end I with a bit of ED. I only ever run 10-12 week cycles. I do the 2:1 ratio and my body just doesn’t respond as well when it comes to growth as it does to dianabol. I do keep p5p in hand as well as novla or clomid just in case sides start to show. The only time I really get hypertension is when I’m running tren, which is VERY rare.
100mg of Cyp every 4 days and 100mg of Deca every 8 days. Donate blood every 6-8 weeks. At the end of 21 weeks I take 4-6 weeks off. Repeat. Less is more. I feel great.
125 mg. Sustanon 250, 100 mg. Deca- every 7-10 days. 50 daily winny works well, shoulders feel great. I have type III acromions susceptible to tears/impingement. I've also run Deca only with no issues and great shoulder health. 43 years old.
I did test with an occasional additional oral for over 2yrs and then came off cold turkey, I gained weight at first then dieted to loose it. I did not have a hard time coming off, felt fine. after a short break of 6 months, I'm going back on for another cycle of test and deca with some dbol to kick it off.
200-250mg test and 125-150mg deca twice a week. I'm 7 weeks in and I've gained about 8lbs. I'm 49, I feel great and my sex drive is like it was in my late teens to my early 20's but I'm still not as strong as I was in my mid 30's with no gear.....I did a 12 week cycle of test 6 months ago and that was the fist time I've done gear in 15 years. Before this I did a 4 week cycle of test e back in 2006.
That's a lot for a guy your age, (and mine). I was using 250 test and 125 deca per week and my cholesterol was a mess. My doctor was aware of what I was using. My blood work was bad, he put me on cholesterol meds right away. You should get your blood work done in a month or so just to be sure.
@@BaggerJay that’s great man. I’m going to do a couple more weeks. Then see the doctor, get my blood checked, pct and just give my body time to recover.
My buddy at work has just recently started Decc and Testosterone and he was telling me about his insane gains in mass and bench max over the last month but I noticed acne on his face and he told me his nuts have already visibly shrunk! 🤯
250 mg Test ,250 mg Deca for 12 weeks cycle, my first .Everything was great till week 10 ,during orgasm I was getting hit with extreme haddock, kind like migraines type. Any idea what could cause the ? Beyond the I felt great ,no pains, Quick recovery.
Love all of your videos man, and how much you actually legitimately care of your viewers. You're doing great things, man; really appreciate your emphasis on helping us fully appreciate the pros/cons of taking anabolics, and really getting the word out there. I found you on another social media site and I thought your information was fantastic. Keep doing what you're doing, doc. A lot of my buddies in my old unit really appreciate your information. Take care and stay safe.
Yeah he cares soo much about his viewers that he never replies to any comments ever . Probably cause he's out there being such a great doctor caring about his fellow human being.
Awesome as always, I’m now 41 I’ve personally done over 10 cycles at 12 weeks of test enanthate 300mg and deca 300mg at 600mg test enanthate 300mg deca each week I’ve always done Pct never had any issues over the years
Fractured my fibia and tibia and tore ligament that holds knee cap in place , i was running test cyp & deca took calcium and lots of protein was back to work & gym in 4 weeks! I now have shoulder issues and want to try it again
isnt HIGH SODIUM scare mongering a thing of the past? its only processed salt/sodium you need to worry about cuz its pure sodium! sea salt on the other hand has about 40 other trace minerals and AFIK you can eat as much as you want as it will flush out equally what you dont need. SO i just avoid all processed foods regardless of this anyways and never limit my sea salt intake, i even put it in my coffee you can even make you own hangover medicine with mostly sea salt , a lil pot chloride and even less magnesium i think a quarter tsp of this while drinking and or at end of night and in morning will help prevent those dried out mouth hangovers which i personally dont get as bad when drinking light beer only when doing alot of 40% shots cuz theres so lil water /alchohol content
Always had bad experiences with decca, however running 700mg decca and 300 test with proviron at 50ed and superdrol 25ed pre workout and im working fine down there and feeling good
600mg test e, 350mg deca a week(m/th). Joints feel grain. Great gains and strength as Long as i eat a lot. .5 anastrozole 2x weekly(m/th). I work outside all day and i drink tons of water so my water retention is fine. Blood pressure is normal. If i don’t drink a lot of water then I’ll look puffy and have chubby cheeks.
Im a male with CAH. Im prescribed Cypinate 180mg per week and Deca 100mg per week. Even at 100mg I notice the biggest difference in everything. My metal clarity comes back, my achy joints stop hurting, my energy levels are insane and actually stops me from fading from the testosterone my severe depression (depressed for no reason) all goes away. I naturally produce to much androgens caused from elevated levels of DHEA 800-850 . All I know legally prescribed gear literally has saved me from wanting to put a bullet in my head.
I love the mental clarity
I’m in the same boat, I was prescribed all kinds of nasty anti depressants and anti psychotics. Did loads of bloods and came back with very low test, after 6 weeks on cyp (120mg) I literally have a different life.
@@brightongardeningservices2178 I love hearing folks say there life has gotten better. One of my customers got checked out for his issues and TRT has saved his marriage. Hormones dont get discussed enough, I hope better educational protocols are taught to PCP doctors treating their local communities in the coming years
@@raymondsalazar5291 100mg of deca is how many CC ? Is that half a CC ?
@@9DramaCydal6GodHead9 im not sure I go to a clinic they mix it with my testosterone shot.
My little brother was in a near death car accident about 17 years ago. He crushed his femur, amongst other things. The doctors said it would take 3 -4 months before he could walk again. I took it upon myself to administer him with 400 mgs of nandrolone decoanate, and 200 mgs of test cypionate every ten days. He was up and walking within 9 weeks.
Wow
That's nuts
That was incredibly stupid of you. You had no idea the interactions with other medications he was taking
@@kevinwheeler5595 specily if he has anti trombose medication
Damn good brother right there mate
I’m 50y ,living in Dallas and I’m taking 200mg of Testosterone and 100 of Deca from TRT National and I’m feeling Amazing. My blood pressure 111 /75 for the past year. I have not eating junk food at all for 13 months.
@@jdasilvaMDTexas quick question. Do you stay on the Deca year round?
@@marshallelliott8894 yes
@marshallelliott8894 my blood pressure still 110/86 111/90
@marshallelliott8894 yes ,and my blood pressure still the same 110-111 / 80-75
@@jdasilvaMDTexas wow ok. Thanks!
I feel like this guy is talking to me when I watch his videos. I love how he does this for us so that we can make more informed decisions. Thank you for all you do Doc.
I ran Test E at 300mg/week and Deca at 150mg/week for 12 weeks. I was 42 y/o and I have pain in my knees and elbows from years of training. During my cycle the pain went completely away. I felt brand new and my workouts were phenomenal. I didn’t have any sides at all except for some sleep issues and maybe some increased anxiety, but that’s it. No ED issues and my libido was through the roof constantly. I’ll probably add in some more cycles of Deca occasionally just for the pain relief alone. At my age with all of the training the Deca provides excellent benefits. Just keep the doses as low as possible.
hello, i orderd test enth and deca , i have injected 2ml of test, and 1ml of deca last week on same day. my right testicle is sore, my skinn is oily and injection site is very sore.... but no other affects, no strength no energy change, no muscle pump change... no veins popping.... i think my skin is oily becuase of the cotton seed oil suspension..should i be using an anti e with it? im very disappointed perhaps stuff is fake. the name brand for the deca is (ALPHA Pharmaceuticals), and the Test enthanate brand is called ( FORZA Farmaceuticals) sorry i dont know mgs... im canadian the syringes are in Milliliters
For some reason deca was anti anxiety for me 😮
It takes several weeks for the deca to help joint pain
@bigbadbootydaddy616 dude you need at least 4-5 weeks to start feeling it ..
@roberthuffman4599 that's because it takes awhile for Deca to really get rolling in your system
Just did this cycle. Deca and cyp. Good gains, zero libido loss, actually went up, and the chronic pains in my shoulder went away while on it.
Can I ask was dosage you did for both?
@@kennymacleod2544 100ml per week of each. Some guys use more, but I'm not trying to be Mr Olympia lol.
Great to hear! I'm on Doc prescribed 100mg TCyp/week, and working around a torn rotator cuff and torn meniscus. Any thoughts,good or bad, to adding 50mg of Deca as a long-term, joint friendly TRT?
I’m trying to do 350 mg test n deca 200 mg .. twice a week , I would be splinting those in one week
i did 1 ml of test enathate 2x a week and 1 ml of decca once a week and i was ok no pct no noting on or after no decca dick and i had over 55 surgery's in da last 20 years due to my car accident but then i herd decca takes 6 months to get out of ur system just before summer i like to do tren for 1 month but give me ur thoughts on this
I started on Deca only in 2014 (Age 45) due to bad knee pain, and it was amazing. Have only been off for 6 months due to knee replacement surgery. I have since tried most of the available steroids. I have come down to test/deca only and its still a life saver. I have arthritis and fibromyalgia but a healthy diet and a couple weekly injections keeps me alive and kicking.
hello, i orderd test enth and deca , i have injected 2ml of test, and 1ml of deca last week on same day. my right testicle is sore, my skinn is oily and injection site is very sore.... but no other affects, no strength no energy change, no muscle pump change... no veins popping.... i think my skin is oily becuase of the cotton seed oil suspension..should i be using an anti e with it? im very disappointed perhaps stuff is fake. the name brand for the deca is (ALPHA Pharmaceuticals), and the Test enthanate brand is called ( FORZA Farmaceuticals) sorry i dont know mgs , i am canadian and the syringes say MLs
What’s your dosages?
Overdosing
Did you get this prescribed in the USA? If so, how? Thanks
What dose are you on how often do you cycle😊 what type of muscle gain did you get
100mg T 50mg D per week may sound low but is sustainable for TRT and can still give the joint pain relief and protection.
Is that your protocol? Any sides? Hows the workout recovery?
@@Mbehr24I’ve been on 150 test and 120 deca for about 2 months. It’s the best of everything I’ve tried. I feel great and my little friend is acting like he’s 19 not 64. Amazing. I’m getting some indication of maybe my estrogen being high so I might back the test down to 130 and see what happens. But for me the main thing is the resolution of my ed, and in such an amazing fashion. I’m not kidding I just think about sex and he responds. Even if I just did it an hour ago. My libido however is normal, not like when I tried tren and got an insane libido and ed at the same time. That was frustrating. Hope this helps some.
Thanks that’s what I was thinking of trying
Deca has always been good to me. :D I get the biggest gains on it, but as long as I can still walk when im older, that alone is a good enough reason to use it for me. My girlfriend was having hives for over a month and I gave her a small dose of Deca, and until this day no hives ever came back. Amazing stuff.
I do a 100 mg deca/100 mg test (alternating weekly) for an 8 week cycle. I do it maybe once a year. It tones me up and has really helped my joints. The results are noticeable. I have never had any side effects apart from the slimming of the waist.
you would have to have severe health issues to witness any side effects...... not only it's a very low/safe dosage, but test and deca injectables, are probably 2 safest steroids ever...... injectable version of these drugs are almost harmless to liver
which post cycle regime do you use with this and for how lomg?
Your dosages are so low and the fact that you are taking breaks that you shouldn’t have any significant side effects or health issues. If it’s working stick with it.
@ddbaliga1052 sorry, just saw your question. I just do the 8 weeks and keep working out. No post cycle. Works well for me.
Right on
I'm 48, 5th wk on 300mg test cypionate an 250mg deca durabolin once a week. Great strength and size gains. Some water retention. Looking forward to finishing this cycle to see the progress. Then 2mo off and back on.
Jus my 2cents
So how did the stack do? Overall health. Just got the same things. I haven't started yet
I'm at 190lbs low body fat, some water retention and acne/zits, health is good considering my other conditions and age. Overall I'm very satisfied and pleased with my results and processes. My weight, strength, family, health, life, sex life, is all better. I hope you get good and safe results my friend
@@justinhenning5284 thanks. I appreciate the feedback.
I'm starting my test/deca cycle today. It's 120mg of test e and c each, with 160mg of deca. I'll be doing 2ml per injection, so roughly 400mg of test and 300 deca per week. Suffer with bad back pain, so looking forward to see if it helps that, and get me off these damn painkillers.
Your two cents is worth at least a nickel!! Thanks for the info(it all helps!)👍😊🇺🇸
I have used 50mg of Deca every three weeks for three months along with 100mg of Testosterone Enanthate every week to heal various joint injuries and it was more than enough for me.
sustained benefits or they ceased after stopping ??
Why wouldn't you just use 50mg of deca a week along with the test. I use 50 mg of NPP eod with 100 mg of test prop eod. I consider that my TRT Plus and it works great with little to no side effects
@@justinwright4796 thats a cycle. there are sides internally. go get a full check
@@justinwright4796 you’re blasting 600mg of Test P a week??
@@dillonyng207 Nooooo, lol 100mg of test prop evey other day
I am currently on 200mg Test Cyp a week, taken in two shots per week, and 100mg a week Deca, two shots a week. I feel great. Been on this protocol for 3 months. My blood pressure is good, don't notice much in the way of water retention. I also take a low dose aspirin, and donate blood every 6-8 weeks. Recent blood work showed total Test at 950 and free at 18.
Addendum: I am currently 48 years of age.
Nice
How can u donate blood when u use supraphysiological androgens?? and donating blood so often lowers iron levels hard. these do not recover quickly enough to go and donate every 6-8weeks.
@@TzillVirmalRS donating blood every 6-8 weeks helps to lower one's hematocrit levels and keep them in check. It's probably every 8 weeks. I don't study the calendar. I get a lot of iron in my diet. And I use the Red Cross. They don't have a problem with my blood, and the Testosterone levels in my blood are NOT at supraphysiological levels. They are clinically high normal.
@@TzillVirmalRS you know absolutely nothing about what your trying to talk about c
I'm doing 150mg of testosterone cypionate every 5 days and 300mg of deca a week . My water retention actually went down from before when i was doing 300mg of test every 5 days i actually feel way better
Im 4 weeks into Sustanon 250 (100mg weekly) / decca (100mg weekly) / anavar (20mg daily). I have noticed DRAMATIC improvements with my injuries (ACL tears, rotors cuffs etc). I find during and after a workout arthritic pains are non existent, i noticed this from the 2nd day. I find im getting tired earlier on in the evening than im used to, probably due to the fact im working out twice a day. Ive gained roughly 8kg of size, nothing in my wardrobe fits me anymore. Nothing negative to say regarding labido, im still bashing it like it owes me money.
Hello .. how you you doing now ?
Im going through same now im 4 week post ACL just started TRT 250 every 5 days soon im planing to combine deca what's your suggestion
Question for you brother. I’m starting the same cycle. How long may I stay on for long term? God bless and thank you. Tony
@@naemmograbi384 Over a year now and ive changed things a bit. Ill now do 600mg test E (i found it way more stable hormonally). 400mg decca and 40mg per day of dbol for 4 weeks.
Honestly bro just recommended medical dose of deca would suffice. Not enough to play any major part in hormonal changes or effect you dramatically except in the way that its going to benefit you. BPC 157 is also something id recommend looking into for that, its a wonder drug for repair
@@TheAnthony0852 ive been running the same compounds for about 2 years now, still no side effects except im massive and cant scratch my back. I run them for 20 weeks now instead of 12 though. You do need to be very mindful of estrogens. I cannot recommend an arimidex dose as everyone differs so much with estrogen control, what works for me may not for you but i will say this. It is way easier to crash it than have too much estrogen so i suggest starting light with it
So you say deca definitely helped you going through this recovery ,
This coming week about to combine deca 50 with my TRT , ive done deca something like 10 years ago i still remember how good my joints felt ,
Actually im asking you all this cause im at week 8 i still dont have full range of motion i cant full straighten my knee im a little bit nervous about it cant wait to start deca !
Ran 12 week cycle of 200 deca and 200 test E. Massive size and strength gains. Sex drive through the roof. However, developed bad paranoia (never had mental health issues before), night sweats, insomnia, BP went from 115systolic to 135systolic, and after 9 months still suppressed despite 2 cycles of PCT with nova and clomid. Took enclomiphene for 4 weeks, just finished, balls have grown massive, can’t wait to test my Test levels!
200 deca and 200 t e a week?
@@vi_cg2778 Guess I was a super responder.
HCG will help with that.. Take 1500 iu 3 times a week while on cycle
The enclomiphene helped create testicular growth or kept them working I should say?
@@sstel5042 1500iu 3 times a week? To maintain testicular size/function?
Out of all the UA-cam 'testosterone' doctors, this one by far talks the most but says the least!
Thank you for pointing this out. I noticed that too. He doesn’t say sh** all day.
7 months on TRT at 200mg and just moved it up to 300mg and using deca for 6 weeks started at 150mg now at 200mg. I do my blood work every 3 months to make sure im good 👍🏼 everything is still running fine, sex life is a blast.
Do you stay on it or cycle? And shouldn't your test be double of deca
update?
@dsd-downshiftdave8056 , The test being double of deca is a bro science myth.
I run 1 of test and 1 of deca once a week... my first cycle and im showing much improvement
I’m a 33 year old male been on test for almost a year and after hurting my shoulder and it not getting better I decided to jump on test and decca. Will keep you guys updated
15 years TRT and 2 years with deca. Labs and ECHO's are great. BP is 130/80. Im 39yo.
Dosages over time?
Results?
@Jo Jo 130/80 is just fine. Not perfect, but he's ok.
That BP is a bit high.
@@MeanBeanComedy its by no means unreasonable. 130/85 is considered the new norm. 120/80 is considered ideal, but remember, drug companies have blood pressure medications to sell. The guy is fine. Can more than likely get it lower with diet.
Was taking 200 test e 2x per week for about a year. My hemoglobin was over 19. Had a few phlebotomy to get back to 16. Now I'm 62 and take 50 Dec with 100 test e 1x per week. Feel great 2 months after meniscus surgery. Will have my bloods done in a few weeks.
Any update ?
@tonehernandez8598 I stopped taking it about 6 months ago due to the high hemoglobin and my age but it worked great for the few years I used it. I didn't feel like going for the constant phlebotomy every week. They were messing up my veins.
Ill tell you what will help with high hemoglobin. Grapefruit the actual grapefruit . Also constant phlebotomy will deplete your ferritin . I been their feels like crap
I have been on Deca and Test C for the last 5 years. Test C(TRT) 140mg per week and 60mg Deca a week. I love my recovery time in the gym. I have had HBP before TRT and it is controlled by meds and nothing has had changed over the years
How should I use it? Should I mix Deca and test together like sugar and water or should I take it separately
@@leofitness7519mixing it is fine
Hello bro, I’ve just got sustanon 250, test ex-c200, an Deca (nandrolone) I’m a first time user, any advice on how much of each to take an do I mix it in 1 or do 3 separate injections, thanks bro
I’ve only done low dose (100mg test 100mg Deca per week) for 6 weeks. Noticeable results. Once a year I do this to break a plateau. Gonna try doubling to 200mg Cip 200mg Deca for 4 weeks end of this year. I’m 51. I hear 6 weeks made more sense but mor concerned with side effects than growth.
I love how he lists everything on screen!
500 deca, 500 EQ, 600 test E per week. No progesterone problems, only 1 Arimadex per week if needed. Been on it for over 16 weeks. I feel good
Each cycle ive done of deca and test I've never had any issues. Mind you I pin 1ml of 300mg deca and 1ml of 250mg test enanthante both once a week only Saturday is test and wednesday is deca And I've seen huge results in strength with weight gain which is what I'm going for. I started in 2019 at 190lbs. Now 2022 I'm at 239.8lbs
With 4-6 month breaks in between.
I did something similar the first time I tried decca. It was 100 mg of Cyp and 300 decca and felt amazing.
Why not pin on the same day
@@ogduck461pinning 2x week gives steady release on paper. Not everyone is the same. Got to see what works for you.
Instead of pinning test one day and then deca another day why not shoot them half and half?
Shouldnt your testosterone be double dose of deca
I too had used Deca for joint pain and loved it. Fixed my knee pain right up, only problem is when you comes off after awhile the pain comes back sadly. So I said to myself what's the since of taking the risk.
I guess your joint pain isn't that bad or you wouldn't be asking what's the sense in it lol.
Wtf live in pain afraid of a risk or live pain free and with super powers huh... such a hard choice when your built like an old woman mentally
So my question is what’s the sense in coming off if it helped that much?
42yr old Male 200lbs weekly dosages are 750mg test 450mg deca 150mg Clomid .5mg Anastrazole
since June 2021. Slight adema twice only lasted a day. Body temp stays pretty warm. Sex drive through the roof. Slight insomnia...sleep 4-5 hrs a nite...train 6 days a week..
that's just blatant abuse at those doses 😂
Holy shit dude.
Im on only deca for 3 months and getting my blood check in a couple of days. My libido is perfect, my mood is so good. It seems like deca makes me happy. Im taking it with 20ui per week of estrogen injection. The deca dose is 200mg by the way.
Hey bud..Why the added estrogen?
@@AS-gz8oe because estrogen levels get really low on pure nandrolone, and that is not good for our health.
I currently run 200mg a week of Test Cyp for my TRT protocol from my local TRT clinic. Did 16 weeks of Deca at 100mg a week from that same clinic. I had never felt better than when I was on Deca. No joint pain, better training sessions, more energy, bigger appetite and more sleep. Even at that low dose of Test and Deca I made some seriously impressive gains. However, now that I’m off Deca my joint pain has come back along with a reduction in appetite and sleep. Planning to run the 200mg Test and 100mg Deca indefinitely now since it’s safe to do so with low, therapeutic, dose Deca and proper quarterly bloodwork.
Hello m8, I’ve just got sustanon 250, test ex-c200, an nandrolone (Deca) my first time using, any recommendations on what doses I should do, an should I put them altogether? Thanks bro
Is this your first cycle
@@darrensutton5499is this your first cycle
Yeh bro, first 1
There us a great product called eatmor to increase appetite
500mg substinon test and 400mg deca per week . I’m a 49 years old and my joint pain has disappeared and I feel great !
Lol... enjoy the stents
U have no business being on that much shit
You will feel good on that . 😊
300mg Deca, 300mg test e, 20mg of dbol (for first 4 weeks). Currently on week 1 so I’m STOKED to report in about 10 weeks or so
How goes brother
He prob died from heart attack
@@vaszryx Hes entering the Olympia later this year
I only had very positive experiences using Deca and TE. Usually 200mg/week, then for a few weeks 400mg. Never ever went over that and never had any issues. TE 500mg/week.
Recently did bloodwork on a cruise dose of 250mg/125mg Test & DECA Monday/Thursday… mood & mobility excellent, there were some sides but they are manageable. You should have anastrozole & caber on-hand. That helped a lot to reduce the night sweats & accompanying mild acne. I use Tadalafil to control blood pressure (122/79 -48 y.o.) The results? 3100 total T. Now, for me that is not my idea of a “cruise” dose. I halved the weekly test & DECA (125/65) and will be doing labs again at the end of this month. AMA
How'd halfing the dose go? I'm on 150mg Test for TRT. Wanting to add 80mg Deca for joint pain once I get my sweet spot dialed in
I seem to be hyper sensitive to test and or deca. I have had to continuously bring down the dosage to find the minimum effective dose and so far it is a 1 to 1 ratio of test/deca at 10mg/10mg injected every 2-3 days. Yes, that’s only 40-60 total mg a week. Still gives me an edge and more importantly minimal sides.
49yr male
I've used Test with Deca for 2 years now. Test 400 and Deca 100 / week. Deca really helped my knee and shoulder injuries but I am careful with increasing the weights. Instead more reps and sets to prevent injury.
I finished last week my 15 week cycle and now im on 250sust 2xweek and i added 300 deca a week. I have cronic tendinosis con my shoulder and my elbow was hurting increasinly over the past 4 months. Since i added deca , all pain went away. Maybe Will reduce to 100-150 a week and see if the pain stays away. I always mix hypertrophy with strenght, i like training heavy but i also dont want to push my injuries to the limit. We gotta stay safe and healthy bud
Do you use an AI?
@@orlandopelletier5036 I use 10mg/day of tamoxifen if I do a test/deca/anadrol cycle.
@@adrianpapibuilder I agree. Sounds good. Actually I meant to say 200 susta 2x per week. I dose 50mg deca before I exercise legs (knee problem) and a couple days later dose 50mg before shoulder exercises. I might go up to 150 / wk as I feel a little pain now I'm pushing a bit more.
@@beyond_the_infinite2098 deca half Life is 7-9 days. You could just jab once a week. Im jabbing 2xweek atm until i finish with susta and start 200 test e.
Great video! I'm 25 and ive used Test and other derivatives for years! This is one of my favorite cycles! Currently i'm running 1ML = 250mg Testosterone Enanthenate, and 1ML = 250mg of Nandralone Deccanate twice weekly and im loving the cycle! Sex drive is abnormally high, no "Decca Dick", BP stays slightly Hypertensive with 130/85 being AVG.. No alcohol consumption, low carb, high protein diet. Vitamin D3 5000IU 1x, Vitamin C 5000mg 1x, Calcium 1000mg 1x, 325mg aspirin 1x, 50mg Metoporol 1x, and 1000mg Fish Oil 1x all daily. So far roughly 7LBS. gained in 3 weeks of cycle. Taking into factor some things stated above! May look into some liver support and detox for PCT with Arimadex and Chlomid.
Hii bro can you suggest…i can inject together test and deca on glutes
In one syringe
I've done roids all my life. Never a problem until my late 40s. I'm running 625mgs Test e a week and 500 Deca a week. Just recently my red blood cells increased so much it made my blood too thick and almost killed me. I could barely breath. ER doctors got it taken care of...guess I'll dial down the dosage..
Give blood brother it help regenerate new plasma, run it with aspirin too
So ill talk about my experience. Was on 160mg weekly testosterone for months. Felt amazing!!! doctor offered to prescribe deca so i did it. Went down to 120mg test and 100mg deca as prescribed. 10 weeks in i can say I'm stronger, lean muscle building and joint pain was awesome, sex life stayed awesome.. but my mood wasn't that great lol. I choose to be happy and always in a good mood on test and dropped the deca.. also noticed heart palpitations even tho i have a great diet and exercise regimen. I never had any Eco test though or my calcium number scan. Rbc, hemoglobin and hemocrit was in range. (Mid high side of good range).. maybe it was just time to put it down for a while or drop the dose?? Sustainability, most dudes cant take it for longer then 3-4 months.. on and off, hot and cold.. listen to me!! It's only worth it if you really need it! Its dangerous so watch yourself.. Deca is the big cousin of testosterone .. yea it has a higher anabolic effect buttttt if you take more test youll find its more then enough. My point is guys testosterone is enough. Eat clean train hard, focus on longevity. If you're on the fence about it? Make sure you're healthy and try it. Low dose dont be crazy see how u respond to it. Some people don't have any side effects till one day the worst one hits them and now regret it all.. my brothers, test is enough.. much love
I do 250mg of Test E and 250mg of Deca a week and it has done absolute wonders for me. Blood pressure slightly elevated but thats about it. It has literally changed my life completely. I am 37 yrs old and did both for the first time about a year ago. I look,feel, and i am in general a happier human being accross the board. But thats MY experience. No 2 guys are the same in doses and sides.
I have been on deca and Sustanon for a year now and I love it.
How much do you take?
Sus = 500mg a week or 2ml
Deca = 300mg mg a week or 1ml
@@brandonperkins1341 have you been taking this dosage for a year?😀
I’ve heard 2:1 or 5:3 which you are doing.
@@b-bigb14265:3
Been doing 50 deca and 100 test for months now 34 hdl and 80 ldl, bp down to 105 70, hemoglobin 17.2 last time I checked…oh yeah, 49 years old
Great video. Thank you. No experience just learning.
It's by far my favorite combo. You HAVE to do it right though, and everyone is different. My go to cycle is 400mg deca, 600mg cypionate. With all the supports, it's a great combo and blood work will still look good.
Yea only problem is if doctor can prescribe that much and if they can then prescription versions are ultra-expensive compared to the street, hopefully, I can get them on the street sometime soon.
@@genjimccorkle5518 yeah mines not RX
What supports ?
@@guitarded5198 proviron and arimidex
What supports do you use?
Ok I was a power lifter for 16 consecutive years., age 31 to 47., never used test or steroids. But I did do pro hormones when I was getting ready for a meet. At age 49 to 54 I was on an Armwrestling team and competed all over. I started injecting Test E without much knowledge on it. Felt great. I do have pains in the shoulders, knees & back throughout most of my time competing from way back. I’ve watched numerous videos on test & deca. I’m now considering taking Test E 200 to 100 of Deca. Then again I may just do Test E with my Pro Hormone stack. I’m just confused and trying to build knowledge on the safest way to go. I’ve ran just Test over the last few years periodically because I still compete in my age group which will be 60 to 64. I turn 60 this April. I’m a type 1 diabetic for the last 32 years. I see my primary on a regular basis. Everything is pretty much in check. But my cholesterol is borderline of being a tad bit high. Any knowledge thrown at me would be much appreciated.
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I'm just here because I'm in the rabbit hole, but hey, this doc knows his stuff. Lots of interesting videos and some I've sent to Body builder friends on steroids. He sounds so passionate and genuine about what he does
Steroids not for u then?
@@tebmc3466 lol, I know it's a small pic, but does it look like I take steroids? Haha I'm 52 kgs
@@leannepiercy771 lol small n petite then lol u from UK?
@@tebmc3466 I'm Aussie
@@leannepiercy771 u look good shape by way
I never have negative sides with Deca. I've run 500mg per week test with 400mg per week Deca. Felt great. Joints felt great. Just didn't like the way I looked. Too fluffy. Not ripped or grainy. Strict diet is a must if you want to look lean on Deca. Not forgiving like tren.
Still run low dose of Deca on cycle for joints.
Do you think if you dropped dose a bit on both sides you might have been less fluffy? I can handle 500mg test easy, upped to about 600 and minor sides popped up (mostly pimples) so figured I found my threshold, am considering deca at some point potentially, like with test would progress dose up and find threshold, minimum requirement for maximum benefit is what I like to go for
@@benjaminprince6424
You are probably right. I’ve dropped to 400mg test on cycle when stacked with deca or tren. Less estrogen to deal with and gains are the same.
I started to mix DECA with Sustanon when I turned 60 years old, for shoulders and lower back. There were a significant improvement; less pain and more flexibility, also strength. I'm 64 now, and no water retention, but blood pressure is slightly high at times, more like up and down. My dosage is 250mg of Sustanon with 100mg of Deca, once a week.
Try using THC oil to get your bloodpressure lower.
I'm smoking weed sometimes and it helps getting my bloodpressure lower.
There are also other plants you can eat to lower your bloodpressure.
You can drink thee with a special plant to lower your bloodpressure.
250mg per week is in my opinion high.
But in the end, its all about how you feel.
I would recommend to lower Sustanon but with deca, you need twice the amount of Testosteron to compensate the deca dick.
Some won't have any issues when do 120mg or 100mg Testosteron with 100mg deca.
Do what feels right and check your blood and ask a specialist.
In America the doctors give the patients more testosteron than in Europe.
I do 120mg Sustanon every week and I'm 38.
I have low T of myself so I had depressions and moodswings because of that.
Sexdrive was really bad.
Now its perfect.
I also blast 14 weeks of Testosteron with another compound.
But my rule is to use 1,5 more testosteron than Deca.
Just to be safe to not get a deca dick.
If you inject too high Testosterone, you may feel more agressive, but if you don't feel that way, then do bloodwork every now and then and control your bloodpressure and you be fit until the day you die.
I rather die at 75 or 80 and be fit and walk and train like a younger male then to be old and walking difficult because of the low T and grow hormone.
I also used MK 677 and that might help too with your cartilage.
I would recommend to use that on 10 or 20mg a day.
It have helped growing my cartilage in my shoulders.
It was gone on the left and right shouders.
I had an ultrasound done, before 8 months and after 8 months MK 677. The result was that I had regained new cartilage in my shoulders.
Everything wears off as you get older so it's good to have these medicine to help you feel younger again.
Hope this helps!
I use high Deca and very low test, maybe 100mg week. Unreal how much different it is vs high test and lower deca(filled with sides).
How is your libido on that dose? I always run more test than deca. Erections all day long.
After doing research on Deca I would assume most would run deca 2:1 with test, but it seems like most of the bro sites tell you thats nonsense and you "need the test" ... but isnt the deca "taking the place" of whatever test is aromatized ?
what is the difference ? appart from avoiding side effects ,what is your dosages and how is libido on this dosage ? PLEASE BE more specific it interrest alot of people
Ive taken 300 test 150 deca and suffered from high libido but not being as hard during sex. However never got full blown errectile dysfunction. Running 300 test 300 deca however; ED defo got me and cialis was my solution
I think MPMD talks about this. High libido but insufficient erection is low E
@@rajeeb3500high E
It's funny all those potential side effects happen to people everywhere who do not take either test or nadralone. I forget the guys name but he runs a health clinic. He talked about his use with the lifting dermatologist. He said he took higher doses for nearly 20 years with no issues. I mean side effects are important but they need to be compared to what you'll be dealing with without being on the compound. I'm just saying being off is sometimes worse than being on.
What is your definition of a dangerous level
Been on TRT for 3yrs. 32yr male. Tried Deca 3 times through my doc over the years. Plus is joint pain goes away almost immediately and stays away while on deca. The downside for me personally is, every time I ran it after I'd say 6weeks+ I would start to mentally feel blah. Like almost depressed to a certain extent. This is completely abnormal to my normal mind state. That's why I was able to notice it the first time I was on deca. And the deca dick usually hits me around 6weeks+ aswell. I've tried several different dosages with both test and deca and they all seems to eventually lead me back to both of those personal cons
same thing here.. this time i was using 150 test E + 150 deca... i also add 150 masteron e still got deca dick..
the mental state too...
next time i'll try double the test, as @Anabolic Doc mention on his videos
I went back and forth for 30 years + testosterone 200 to 500 mg per week I switched off Deca and equipoise from 100 to 400 mg pet week ,, I always got super strong with the EQ, Yes I was a gold card person at the local blood bank, They loved me, The muscle pain when I had to stop was very bad...
my body killing me now lol
retention of water
higher blood pressure
other than that it is one of my favs
Recently did a 12 week cycle of Rad-140 at 20mg a day and 150mg of Deca a week. I had great strength and size gain. I did not get puffiness on it but did notice my joints felt way better. I noticed visible vascularity and no Deca dick. Ive been off about a month and a half and my strength has not gone away.
That’s how it works. Once you add test you get awful sides.
U can run deca on its own?
The docs presentations have improved massively, slowed down alot , taking time with more detail.
Ran 300mg/wk Deca with 400mg/wk tri test blend (150mg of test C and E and 100mg of testP) felt great, sex drive was phenomenal, never had stiffer erections, only side towards end of 8wks was sensitive nips and a noticeable shrinkage in testicles.
You can run hcg at 300iu every 5 days to combat the nut shrinkage.
When I begin cutting (march) I will drop the deca and up my test to 750 MG a week with frequent Injections along with Adex. Once the cut is over I will recomp with 350 test, 100 MG tren ace eod and 15 MG superdrol on lifting days.
Well, I am 73 so, forever isn't very long for me LOL! I just started taking prescription TRT. 120mg/wk of T and 80mg/wk of N. Taking the N for joint pain, haven't noticed much yet at 4 wks in. Been working out since I was 14. Not trying to gain just maintain and so far so good. My left shoulder is a mess though, no cartilage left so I am not doing any heavy bench pressing or overhead pressing. Everything is about pain management for me right now, trying to avoid shoulder replacement. Maybe they will get stem cell therapy perfected before I kick the bucket, hoping anyway.
brother as 73 years you shouldn't Inject TRT something less dangerous will be fine as urlah.com/testobooster thank me later if it did.
@@hardazina3118 less dangerous then bio identical T? Hilarious!
Sir, you are jacked for 73, and if you are still boxing/striking that is even more impressive. I'm only 43 & pretty banged up, but the goal is to be in great shape & to be able to live a active life in my seventies still lifting, training bjj & muay thai, & enjoying my kids & grandkids.
Very inspiring!
You look phenomenal for your age man. I would imagine you're probably wondering why you waited so long to get on trt. Ive been on 110mg a week for almost a year now. Only thing I can share with guys is watch your blood pressure and check your hemoglobin
I run true TRT at 140mg /week dosed every other day with 0.25 adex, and 300iu hcg every fourth day - newer studies supporting this protocol for long term use to maintain efficacy without desensitization. Well-being is typically through the roof with this protocol, I have tons of drive in the gym and bed, test levels maintained at remarkably close to 1000 every time, free T is always between 250-300. BP is better than ever 115/65-125/75, resting PR in the 50s-60s.
I do however have chronic soft tissue issues to the tune of 11 major ortho surgeries for various shoulder, neck, nerve, and hip injuries sustained in Afghanistan, the gym, and on the bjj mats. I have experimented with various doses of deca added on to TRT for less pain, better joint health, and prophylactic treatment for genetically tight and rigid tendons and ligaments. My experience is that the drug is very well tolerated physiologically at a maintenance dose of 105mg /week, BP and PR remain WNL, HDL decreases slightly but nothing concerning, no added estrogenic effects, E2 still in check with same adex dose, sex drive through the roof and erections are still rock hard.
The only two major side effects I notice, which are significant, is a much harder time sleeping well through the night; I get a marked increase in relapse of bouts of insomnia, worse night time sweats, and will wake up hours earlier than my alarm and be unable to fall back asleep. The other, and equally important, issue is stress and anxiety. Anxiety definitely increases substantially with even these low doses. I’m much more stressed out about normal, daily stressors on a regular basis and more ‘on edge’ than is typical. There are days where these effects seem to be balanced out by the positive effects, ie I feel so good that My stress is reduced s/t the noticeable benefits, but overall it seems to be pretty close to an equal trade off. Whenever I stop I do usually feel much better within a month and seem to tell myself each time that I shouldn’t do that again, but of course the injuries catch up and I feel like I need it.
May just be a cyclical need, and going on/off might ultimately be the best approach however, for whatever reason, I very much prefer the idea of a sort of ‘steady state’ with my medication and would much rather just figure out what’s best for me but that can actually be maintained long term, as I don’t like ‘cycling’ or experimenting so much anymore. Just want to feel and perform as best I can all the time while being mindful that I’m balancing overall health and longevity as well. I will be decreasing my dose to 52.5 mg /week for a few months and try to determine how much pain relief/joint health benefit I can get while also trying to minimize the anxiety and sleeplessness as much as possible. Will update anyone who’s interested!
Were you a doc? Cuz you sound like a medic/corpsman! Lol… thanks for sharing!
Hey & thanx for sharing!
Your protocol has one flaw: throw away the Adex!!!
NO NEED for that at such a low dose T. Really. Adex reduces the benefits of the E2 for your joints and tendons dramatically. Especially in your condition this is important.
I do TRT 125 mg - 250 mg: @250 my E2 is 100, twice above the max range. But I have no E2 sides. @125 mg T my E2 is in the high ref range (50): but here my back and joints hurt more.
Even in BB the new concept is to stay lower with T and when you go higher with T, instead of AI you stack the T with Primo or Mast, which work as an sort of AI without the sides of an AI...
Everything you said but Iraq not Afghanistan, how did going from 100mg/wk to 50 work out? I’m dealing w the exact issues
Awesome to see the replies, thanks y’all!
Doctor Gazorpazorp - Not a corpsman, USMC infantry here. But I am now a nurse practitioner, so that’s where it comes from!
13Prometheus and newbluerugby - so I had always run some level of an AI because I’ve actually had two gyno surgeries already, one BL surgery related to PEDs, but also one prior, unilateral, for some gyno I developed after my first pump in Afghanistan. Personally I believe this was caused by the fact that we drank almost all of our water from regular cases of plastic water bottles that they would airdrop in pallets, and then would sit in the 100+ degree sun for hours or even days before we got them.. all the xenoestrogens is the only thing that makes sense to me but will never know for sure. So after I needed it again secondary to AAS I got very paranoid and I would definitely feel some sensitivity if I missed a week or so of my AI. After reading your post though I did a bit of research into those benefits of higher E2 and all the other ones. So about a month ago I switched to every other day dosing on my test and deca, just because of how it’s dosed, otherwise would have done ED. I also lowered my deca dose to 52.5mg / week (15mg EOD). After doing so I definitely felt like i got a noticeable improvement in my joint discomfort. Also felt a bit more full but not puffy, even though I lowered the deca dose. Mood and affect have definitely improved, noticeably more calm and level headed. Dealing with stress a bit better then I was with the higher deca + arimidex dosing. I know this type of medicine is not cookie cutter whatsoever but I definitely think this is a good place to start if you’re dealing with issues similar to me. I know I said I’m not particularly interested in experimenting much anymore but because of the significant benefit I realized by lowering deca, discontinuing adex, and increasing my dosing from every third day to every other day, I think I am going to try to change things up one more time and see how I would feel doing every day dosing with 12.5mg test and 5mg NPP for a total of 87.5mg test and 35mg NPP /week. Would love to get my overall dosages down and feel even better if both can be achieved simultaneously, which this recent adjustment has definitely at least made me think is possible. Please stay in touch, will continue to update if interested and would look forward to vice versa 🤙🏻
Awful HCG protocol. Microdosing HCG every day is far more beneficial due to its very short half life
Test -200 NPP 75 / week. Add in proviron and thats it. No charge
Im running 500mg test, 250mg deca week with 20mg dianabol daily and I feel great, alot of liquid retention though
Wow interesting you bring this up doc cause that's what mixture I put together in my weekly syringe .I started test cypionate last year but there months ago I had Bought a 10 ml 250 mg bottle 🍾 of nandrolone .I primarily had an interest in it helping my hips .I thought at sometime I would need a hip replacement but thanks to nandrolone no more issues .I probably was just only beginning as I am 57 .I only plan to take this one bottle and be done and just stick with test cypionate .I also thought it would bring the known hairloss triggering androgens down along with gyno .I have no apparent adema .I also am taking finasteride and alternating dutasteride when I inject the test . plus using quarterd 10 mg of oral minoxidil to keep my hair intact .I don't experience any side effects of any of this .oh the first injection blend of test and nandrolone my libido was to the roof . getting erect at the drop of a hat but now normal .can always perform
I did 1ml deca and 1ml sustanon 250ml.
My mood increased, confidence sky high. I gained about 20lbs.
The only thing I didnt like was that my neck and head swole along with my muscles so I looked like I had no neck.
My balls disappeared 😂, some sweaty nights sleep but overall....BRILLIANT!
IVE never seen anyone mention this but when I ate food. My jaw, and muscles on side of head got pump so it felt like cramp in my head. Chewing food gave me aching pumps😂😂😂
godamn😭 how was the coming off it tho?
The jaw ache bro i feel your pain 😂😂
I have been taking 100mg of deca with my test specifically for the joint pain. I am training for a strongman competition. I think a lot of that is dependent on your activity level as well. If you're sweating all day then go to the gym and get drenched in sweat 5x a week you're going to need more sodium than the average guy that's just on trt for hormone replacement. There's really nothing like deca for the joints but yes I'm not going to be on it forever. After my competition I will get off for 6-8 weeks before I get back on it again for the next competition.
60 year old, 200 mg a week of test cyp, just added 100mg of deca a week, would I get any muscle gains on this protocol? Doc said I'll be on deca for 10 weeks, off 10 weeks and back again on deca...
Thank you guys for your time and help...
Yes
Doc, hurt my low back muscle 2 years ago, was basically bedridden for a month. Recovered but constantly had low back pain. Got on trt and was cured of back pain 2 weeks later. Amazing
I have the same issue lower back pain and my legs hurt sometimes and neck pain. I was on gear back in 2018 that was about it, I might go back on it. My body feels stiff now
My first anabolic cycle was with TE at 300mg per week and ND at 200mg per week. I got zero side effects, great strength gains with a little size gains, compared to a few peptides that I had tried which gave me incredibly bad side effects with zero gains.
I just recently did another cycle of exactly the same compounds and same rates. 6 weeks later after stopping, no nonsense pct, I am still gaining with few aches, pains and lethargy creeping in. The cycle prior to this one, 12 months ago was with TP at 300mg per week and NPP at 200mg per week. No adverse side effects except for excessive hair growth on my shoulders and back. Not as much gains as TE and ND unfortunately.
you did a cycle without pct?
Have no clue how to get Deca. I’m on Test Cyp and would take both. I don’t think Deca is Dr. prescribed??
Just sent in my blood work to get started on TRT hopefully I get the consultation tomorrow or Tuesday. I’m 31 years old 6 ft tall 198 lbs. consistently been in the gym for 12 months strait. My goal is 220-225 I’ve been looking at deca for a little while now to help get there. I know once I get off I’ll lose a lot of muscle is 210 lbs a realistic weight after I stop with just a TRT cruise?
I did a cycle of low dosed deca(300mg per week with 500mg sustanon) The acne was horrible and I had some sexual issues where I couldn't finish, no deca dick, In fact pretty much the opposite, some sleep issues but it made me feel great, no joint pain, elevated moods, appetite increased, the benefits outweighed the bad stuff
Love cruise on 250mg cyp 375mg Decca every 3 days 18 years some high bp controlled by losartion. Rb around 115. No erectile issues good for 4 times anite 65 yr old bench over 5 love this stack part of every day life
Low dose lol... See how other ppl are commenting on doing ~100mg/week this is a low dose not yours.
LOW dosed? 😂😂
Cut the test and triple the Deca! Thank me later!
@@christianmathison1182 😂😂😂 yep.. erectile disfunction, low T with all its problems and depression. great advice..
Been running a 400mg/ cc blend of cyp and anenthate for 4 weeks with 300mg/cc of deca. So 2 CC's weekly and the effects so far are a lot of aggression but no rage, BP is perfect, and the gains are awesome. Little edema but great energy. No progesterone effects so far. I'm 49 and have maintained a great workout regimen for decades.
My favorite cycle 500 sust tw/ wk & 400 nandrolone tw/wk, am 61 and I feel fine checking my blood tw/yr, cycles go from 10/12wks.my trt is 200 sust💪🏻tws/a year
Side effects of deca are over played by guys that are prone. If you aren't prone to the sides test and deca is 👑👑👑
Have you tried Sustanon? It has 2 short esters and 2 long esters, so you get the best from test that way.
I’m 59. On TRT hCG Sermorelin.. might change to tesamorelin.. I’ve also got some anavar. I took some last week 3 times. 25ml. Today I took 50ml. And I feel fantastic
Am new to your channel.. thanks... getting caught up and watching as much as i can
I am a chronic pain sufferer. Pain management, I was told, will bring Test levels far below what is considered "average."
I gathered up all my blood work-up for the past 5 years. My endocrinologist was shocked at how low my test levels were and how it was I had muscle mass. I have never used steroids as I never wanted to compete. I saw a Urologist yesterday who is putting me on a TRT using a testosterone gell. I am 59 and lifted most of my life. I am currently making noticeable gain. I hope this TRT will allow me the ability to recover easier. My question is, how is it I have been gaining muscle density without testosterone in my system? It was so low I had an MRI to see if I had some sort of brain tumor!!Lol! Should I expect better results when I begin TRT? Are there other androgenic/anabolic compounds used with test?
I am 59 years of age, currently 208lbs, 5'7" and lift 3x a week.
Love Deca.
Nothing has helped my old injuries like Deca has.
It's clockwork that 2 days after my first pin with it I'm feeling some level of relief in my busted up finger joints & my lower back from my grappling days.
I don't get Deca dong but it makes me disinterested in sex. It's not really that bad as it might seem it's just that I'm not interested in having sex at all so if you get it your girl might be pissed lol. Don't get me wrong, I can still have sex & get off etc but I couldn't care less about not doing it...
I put on fantastic size with Deca using 400-500mg a week.
It's cheap & affordable.
For me Deca is my go to compound for size & strength.
Yes the orals can slap on size fast but Deca size is more permanent then Anadrol or Dianabol & for a longer period of time vs your health & staying healthy. At least with me it is.
You can always low dose Deca for joint relief if you don't want to jump on a half gram of it etc.
For me the only side I get is the disinterest in sex. No estrogen issues. No Deca dong. I love it. My quality of life on it goes up so nicely.
They should be studying Deca for it's joint relief alone. I mean I can go from needing pain pill relief to not needing anything when using Deca so to me it's on the level of miracle drug & should be looked at further to possibly isolate that pain relief aspect & potentially offer that in a medicine. It would transform lives if that happened.
Did you run test with it? Or just deca
Did you get your sex libido after a while
@@ClickClack_Bam thank you for your quick response. I’m thinking about you taking it. Any other side effects. Mentally or emotionally?
@@MySmurfe Not really. You can find yourself getting pissed at things a little easier but your self restraint is more.
I linen it to a lion with his cubs & his cubs are chewing at him but he knows better than to take that so seriously.
I've never had any gyno issues with it. To me it's a pretty clean compound. Good size & good strength.
Do not run Deca with Tren. They're related & you can run into big gyno issues doing this.
It's a classic compound & I love it.
@@ClickClack_Bam thank you 🙏
Raises Blood Pressure; big problem if you already have high blood pressure.
I used Sustenon solely, and long term, I had extreme sweating, and then my sweat started smelling like ammonia, so I quit
I am in my 50s and have been using low dose Deca on and off with TRT for a few years - and recently was prescribed long term use. I run about 100 mg / wk of each compound for 12 weeks then I lower the deca to 50 mg for another few months and repeat. I feel great - joint relief is amazing. Had all sorts of advanced cardio tests and everything is optimal. No one knows the long term effects of this but I’m going to keep doing this for the foreseeable future based on results.
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Great to hear! 47 yr old here... Would you say the long term, relatively low dose "TRT-plus Deca" regimen has been joint/ligament/tendon regenerating?? Or the extra kick of Deca just simply takes away the pain signals that start to fire otherwise with only Test? I'm currently on Doc-prescribed 100mg TCyp/week, but considering adding in 50mg/week of Deca as a year-round "TRT-plus" regimen if it can help heal my torn rotator cuff and newly-acquired meniscus tear. Also, curious if you've noticed any hair and skin cosmetic enhancement, due to Deca being collagen-promoting?? Thanks so much for any thoughts and help on the matter.
@@anthonybewlz388 I feel it definitely helps long-term. Not only from the anti-inflammatory effect, but the low-dose deca will help add some muscle. I had a slight tear on my rotator cuff, and what helped tremendously was injecting BPC 157 directly into the muscle. Literally had no pain after like three days. Start working out again with light weights, and of course the added androgens from the TRT and deca helped build and stabilize the joint. My knees feel so much better as well because it allowed me to lift with light weights and build muscle - which further stabilized the joint and alleviated about 80 percent of the pain I had.
I am 28 been on trt for 4 years due to side effects from medication after surgery. I am on 125 test 125 deca. Bloods are within range minus 4 points above high end range for total test and shbg
125mg ?
@@11bravo79 125kg
@@ArkanSubotic what 125kg of test and deca ?
@@PRgencoupe its called sarcasm... of course mg durrrrrrrrp
@@ArkanSubotic 125 full vials.
My best friend used to use Deca. He would do 100mg of test and 100mg of deca per week. I’m looking into because I’m an arm wrestler and I’m experiencing elbow pain so bad it extras to fall asleep and if if I do fall asleep I wake up because my elbows are throbbing in massive pain and I refuse to give up the sport.
Definitely Npp and test is my favorite. I like Npp with sustanon. As far as sex drive ,outrageous. Lower test and higher Npp. Mood is great. Actually got into accident and fractured my wrist and my fracture healed very fast.
What dosage?
@@mikearonson1071 lower test like 300ml week and 350or 400decca
@@jimicarfora7878 Cool. I usually run slightly higher test than deca. Love NPP also. Sust is my favorite because of the long and short esters.
I have found that the best I’ve felt on trt was when I did 50mg test cyp (yes that is correct) and 120 deca per week.
I had an insane libido. No deca duck. My joints felt awesome. My blood pressure didn’t change. I did this for a year. Now I’m off the deca for alittle while with just test cyp at 180 per week. Still feel really good but not as good as the deca had me. The main reason for being on deca was for my knees, which still feel great even off deca for about 4 months.
What makes you choose this 50 test & 120 deca proportion?
@@trickcyclist1 a guy I know told me to try that dosage combo. He swears by a deca based protocol. The test dose is just to keep my estrogen within range since deca doesn’t aromatize enough to keep estrogen at a healthy level.
Similar to my experience. If on just TRT i run 150mg per week. Test and deca combo I call it the old man cycle of 75mg T per week and 250mg deca per week i run for 10 weeks which i use mostly for back pain. After reverting back to TRT, the pain relief effects of deca seem to last several months. Run it every 9months or so seems to work fine.
Fascinating. I wonder how low I'd need to run the test if I were to add npp for my joints. I only take 50mg of test cyp a week for TRT because I hyper convert. 80mg a week puts me at an average of 1300 ng/dl on a 270-870 range and of course being that high causes E2 issues. 50mg keeps me in the 800s still. Would I need to drop that all the way to 25-30?
@@mikerude5073 I’m the same way. Personally I’d keep test the same and adjust deca accordingly.
I do Deca only cycles. Treats me very well compared to Testosterone. Libido is good, gains are great, but no acne, no hairloss. Nothing!
It does not work for everyone, but it does for me!
Numbers?
Having a libido with just taking decca and no test? Yeah ok bud. Never have i heard someone say that or just run decca or tren without test. Honestly its super stupid. Unless you are some kind of anomaly.
Deca doesnt does hair loss cause it doesnt go DHT on head like other drags like Tren
A man still needs estrogen. Deca can't convert to it. And Deca will shut down your nuts.
@@RichardsWorld in 1 gram yes...if u are aboout 400 600 a week will be fine... i am user..i am IFBB athlete..i still know something more..but yes..overall u have right
Deca has helped me with an old shoulder injury tremendously. I get a huge libido jump in the beginning of the cycle and then the last few weeks almost always end I with a bit of ED. I only ever run 10-12 week cycles. I do the 2:1 ratio and my body just doesn’t respond as well when it comes to growth as it does to dianabol. I do keep p5p in hand as well as novla or clomid just in case sides start to show. The only time I really get hypertension is when I’m running tren, which is VERY rare.
Do you use the clomid during cycle or afterwards
100mg of Cyp every 4 days and 100mg of Deca every 8 days.
Donate blood every 6-8 weeks.
At the end of 21 weeks I take 4-6 weeks off.
Repeat.
Less is more.
I feel great.
125 mg. Sustanon 250, 100 mg. Deca- every 7-10 days. 50 daily winny
works well, shoulders feel great. I have type III acromions susceptible to tears/impingement.
I've also run Deca only with no issues and great shoulder health. 43 years old.
BP 117/78
@@ryanboilek3845 Hey Ryan, thanks for sharing your info. So the Winstrol doesn't counteract the Nandrolone and dry your joints out? Thanks!
I did test with an occasional additional oral for over 2yrs and then came off cold turkey, I gained weight at first then dieted to loose it. I did not have a hard time coming off, felt fine. after a short break of 6 months, I'm going back on for another cycle of test and deca with some dbol to kick it off.
So npp is better than deca ?
200-250mg test and 125-150mg deca twice a week. I'm 7 weeks in and I've gained about 8lbs. I'm 49, I feel great and my sex drive is like it was in my late teens to my early 20's but I'm still not as strong as I was in my mid 30's with no gear.....I did a 12 week cycle of test 6 months ago and that was the fist time I've done gear in 15 years. Before this I did a 4 week cycle of test e back in 2006.
That's a lot for a guy your age, (and mine). I was using 250 test and 125 deca per week and my cholesterol was a mess. My doctor was aware of what I was using. My blood work was bad, he put me on cholesterol meds right away. You should get your blood work done in a month or so just to be sure.
@@BaggerJay thanks man and I plan on having blood work soon and I will be honest with my doctor about what I took.
@@littleswol1 Good idea. We aren't young, we have to be cautious. I now do 250 test per week (1cc) I still feel fine.
@@BaggerJay that’s great man. I’m going to do a couple more weeks. Then see the doctor, get my blood checked, pct and just give my body time to recover.
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My buddy at work has just recently started Decc and Testosterone and he was telling me about his insane gains in mass and bench max over the last month but I noticed acne on his face and he told me his nuts have already visibly shrunk! 🤯
U r amazing please keep the good stuff coming ❤❤❤
250 mg Test ,250 mg Deca for 12 weeks cycle, my first .Everything was great till week 10 ,during orgasm I was getting hit with extreme haddock, kind like migraines type. Any idea what could cause the ? Beyond the I felt great ,no pains, Quick recovery.
Love all of your videos man, and how much you actually legitimately care of your viewers. You're doing great things, man; really appreciate your emphasis on helping us fully appreciate the pros/cons of taking anabolics, and really getting the word out there. I found you on another social media site and I thought your information was fantastic. Keep doing what you're doing, doc. A lot of my buddies in my old unit really appreciate your information. Take care and stay safe.
Yeah he cares soo much about his viewers that he never replies to any comments ever . Probably cause he's out there being such a great doctor caring about his fellow human being.
@@danielmosher2652 lololol
Awesome as always, I’m now 41 I’ve personally done over 10 cycles at 12 weeks of test enanthate 300mg and deca 300mg at 600mg test enanthate 300mg deca each week I’ve always done Pct never had any issues over the years
What did you use for pct for test and deca?
Fractured my fibia and tibia and tore ligament that holds knee cap in place , i was running test cyp & deca took calcium and lots of protein was back to work & gym in 4 weeks!
I now have shoulder issues and want to try it again
isnt HIGH SODIUM scare mongering a thing of the past?
its only processed salt/sodium you need to worry about cuz its pure sodium!
sea salt on the other hand has about 40 other trace minerals and AFIK you can eat as much as you want as it will flush out equally what you dont need.
SO i just avoid all processed foods regardless of this anyways and never limit my sea salt intake, i even put it in my coffee
you can even make you own hangover medicine with mostly sea salt , a lil pot chloride and even less magnesium i think
a quarter tsp of this while drinking and or at end of night and in morning will help prevent those dried out mouth hangovers which i personally dont get as bad when drinking light beer only when doing alot of 40% shots cuz theres so lil water /alchohol content
Always had bad experiences with decca, however running 700mg decca and 300 test with proviron at 50ed and superdrol 25ed pre workout and im working fine down there and feeling good
600mg test e, 350mg deca a week(m/th). Joints feel grain. Great gains and strength as Long as i eat a lot. .5 anastrozole 2x weekly(m/th). I work outside all day and i drink tons of water so my water retention is fine. Blood pressure is normal. If i don’t drink a lot of water then I’ll look puffy and have chubby cheeks.