For everyone whose day I clearly ruined by not checking the CMOS. This morning I reset the CMOS and tested the motherboard with a different CPU, PSU, RAM and GPU. The motherboard is in fact still not working. Also, I know Predator is an Acer sub brand. My holiday brain just misspoke. Thanks for watching, bye!
If I had to guess: the participants or the staff got to take the rigs home, something happened the cheap motherboard in shipping, and it got put up on North American eBay.
I worked at ubi MTL during the summer of 2022 and I can absolutely confirm that Acer Predator were the PC sponsor of the Berlin Major. I remember seeing that exact case on the platform / stage thing that the players competed on so it absolutely could be a PC from that tournament, not sure if they did co-branded sales including the wallpaper or not.
The fact that Ubisoft can't provide better PCs than this suggests there was some embezzling going on there. I highly doubt Acer just gave them the PCs. The world of corporate sponsorship is a scammy shitshow. The best outcome is increased prices for consumers.
Then he felt obliged to tell us exactly what he meant by that. I'm not sure my life was really improved by that. Not that this channel is about improving my life in any way whatsoever.
The very first thing you should try in these situations is clearing the cmos. It's very easy and quick to do, doesn't require dismantling anything, and can fix the problem surprisingly often. There's no reason not to try it. And the funny thing is that if the culprit is the cmos, when you don't check it you may get the false impression that the entire motherboard is bad, and trying another motherboard will just strengthen that confirmation bias if the other one seems to work. It may well be that there was nothing wrong with the original, you just had to clear the cmos to make it work. This can cause you completely unnecessary extra expenses.
I had the same reaction (no screen / no post) when upgrading my RAM and I forget to turn off the XMP profile. So reseting first is indeed a very good option.
That's what I would try first as well. Clear CMOS, check the RAM and then try the GPU and other parts. Could be that previous owner was doing something in bios and broke it.
I'm very curious why every tech UA-camr seems to have forgotten that almost all motherboards still have beep codes for troubleshooting, and the PC speakers, with the slide-on connector, are like $5 for a pack of three on Amazon. Am I just that old, and this is forgotten magic of eons long past?
Yeah 🤷♂, I have one on all my PCs I just got a new pack of 5 for $4.95AUD Delivered off Ebay down here... After reading Dawid's replies yeah makes sense for serious channels but this is Dawid 😂
Well, I'm not old and I have a spare beeper in a bag with other small PC stuff. IIRC it is not quiet standardized, though, so without a manual it can be quiet tricky to decipher...
That mobo looks cheap and specifically made for the pre build, the gpu too, so it probably doesn't have that feature, my mobo has the lights and the sound thing and it really helps me when I have some problems with my ram in my first build
mobo probably didn't come with built in speaker , but basically anyone who builds regularly pc's has one lying around and it had a connector for it this guy isn't bright, didn't even bother removing the bios battery to see maybe that would reset the mobo lol
As a Semi-Pro Seige player, seeing that background, I can confirm that, the pc u have is very likely to have been in the berlin major, we had a "major" around the same time and we were using hand me downs from a pro league and this system looks almost identical (ours used 3060's) and that wallpaper was only ever used during the major. I am VERY jealous
The surgical process is so well practised now that it makes me wonder if there is a parallel universe where Dawid is a famous heart surgeon. Losing scalpels in the endless abyss of some guys open heart surgery.
checking, the cpu power was plugged in, this board just has a 8pin (plugged in) and a 4pin (unplugged), it should be just fine only having the 8pin plugged in
I dunno, I’ve always thought that bad PSUs give you all kinds of weird, seemingly unrelated symptoms. They do more than just go pop and release the magic blue smoke.
I had one customers PC whose kept shutting down under load due to faulty PSU. It also damaged the GPU which no longer outputs and fans do not spin. Another customers PC had a faulty unit, which would take 45 minutes to respond after pressing the power button. It would make a "click" but wouldn't power on for a long time. I verified this with my PSU tester, same thing. New PSU, works perfectly. I have also seen a couple of PSUs that exploded as soon as I plugged in the power cable... One was a PC I bought off of eBay so don't know if it survived because I returned it. The other one was from early 2000s, and was lucky because every single other component worked perfectly. Also someone who worked in the office had a mini Acer PC, in less than 1 year, the PSU decided to explode, I opened it up and yeah massive scorch marks on the underneath of the PSU..of course this one was proprietary so had to overpay for a replacement on eBay but the replacement was from a better brand (FSP, the one that exploded was Lite-on, a company I've had a few bad experiences with)
I love this format of video, the process of elimination and finding what works and what doesn’t is part of what makes salvaging/diagnosing pc’s worthwhile. And seeing dawid go through it is a treat to say the least😂
Forgive me, but did you try resetting the bios? I had a dell optiplex which used to lose its mind everytime there was an improper shutdown mostly due to power outage, I had to reset the bios for it to work again.
Dang that Prostate 🤣 @60 a trip to the bathroom is an adventure! Cliff hanger there around 13:00 really glad the card worked, Thanks for another great video, Hope the new space is working out for you Have a nice day Dawid!
I'm betting 50 bucks that mainboard still works if you just tested it with a PC speaker and reset the BIOS as well. FIGHT ME. Please like absolutely please 666K Dawid, exorcise Elma once and for all with a PC speaker i'm begging you!! And PSU tester while you're at it, both of these things cost like 20 bucks total...
You should get a speaker for the motherboard, really helps with identifying issues, for example you can remove the ram and if the system bips it means the mobo and processor seems to be working, if doesnt bip the problem is on the mobo or cpu since the system looks for the processor first, ram second.
Sometimes a faulty nvme drive make the pc not boot. I was building a pc once and got a faulty crucial p2. Whenever I plugged it in it didnt make the PC boot , removing it would make the pc boot.
15:36 but you did say you bought it a long time ago so maybe that can be chalked up to the dark ages of GPU pricing when a 3070 was worth $700ish by itself, which brings me to the end of this comment, until the next time thank you for reading, bye bye!
Some of the ducting gizmos in that case might actually make a difference, particularly to GPU temps. Front fans don't create much air flow beyond the front half of the case, they just swirl it around there and raise pressure at the back which actually impedes the GPU fans trying to pull in air through the PCI grille. Vanes or ducts can straighten air flow and get it to the back of the case (under the GPU). Even without the "Ice Tunnel" duct those GPU and CPU temperatures were actually quite impressive but our esteemed host seemed pretty glib about them.
@@thesolver1970 hmm i shave regularly and cut my hair once a month and i can tell the difference between acer and hp then again he is a clown and not an it guy
hey david , just put some aux speakers in rear aux port(green ) it may give you sound beeps like signal for different posting etc issues which you can google for what error it is according to brand
Riser cable just introduces another failure point, well illustrated in this video. But if your average gamer understood the first thing about failure analysis, AIOs wouldn't exist. Meanwhile, you can buy a GPU support for $10 or just use some Legos to support it. My takeaway here is never buy a pre-built with a GPU riser cable. You wanna spend $50 on a good riser cable for a DIY build, that's your business. I'd rather spend it on more storage.
I recently fixed my RTX 4090, i7-13700 build. You wanna know why it stopped turning on? One of my RAM sticks went bad. The motherboard refused to boot while that stick was plugged in. It works fine with only the one good working stick in it. That is how annoying PC problems can be. I tested each stick in all 4 RAM slots until the system booted. 😩
What in all that is holy was the 2nd NVMe doing just chilling off the side of the motherboard? And then the WiFi card was sat all alone when the I/O area had a ton of space. Are the engineers over at Acer really that bad?
Could be the CPU mounting bracket. LGA 1700 is notorious for memory issues when not properly mounted. The official bracket design doesn't apply pressure evenly. That's why aftermarket brackets are so popular. And, if still not working, it might have corrupted BIOS. You can either sell it cheap, or buy a SPI programmer.
if it was me doing the examination, I'd also reset the BIOS on a mobo before swapping it out. just because it's faster to take out the battery instead of unscrewing the entire thing.
Yep, remember checking everything and the fix was swapping dead bios battery. Apparently some mobo post and say that battery is dead, but some just refuse to start.
Love seeing my name on the Patreon list in every video... Makes my happy to support such an amazing UA-camr and person... Dankie Dawid (also if you wanna feel special just know you are literally the first and only Patreon I'm supporting - You damn well deserve it)
@@doobybrother21 i didnt say that they were stupid. i just said that the number 6 is pretty special for them. if you have peeked in to the kabbalah and zohar and even talmud you will know that was i just said above its true :)
Do post cards work in modern PC's? I was just thinking of how handy that would be, but something in my mind is saying they don't work with modern PC's for some reason... Am I right or wrong?
I'd be interested in more testing of the supposed dead pc part on it's own outside the case a bit more, even if you just mention testing it again. Curious if resetting the bios would have any effect. -that being said, I have only had one mobo die on me out of the blue and it behaved similarly, and only gave me ram and cpu error codes.
I've seen power supplies fail without blowing up, they just might not be putting out enough current. I almost wonder if that board that was in it was just a bad BIOS update. Who knows if it has some kind of flashback feature though.
Generally speaking, if a PC starts up when you plug the PSU into the mains, there's a problem with the motherboard. A properly working motherboard will not boot the system unless it detects a power-on signal. Plugging it in is not a power-on signal. I watch this, and I wonder, why put everything back into the case to begin testing with the new board?
Power supplies do not always “fail spectacularly”. I’ve had systems overheat and loosen solder on a PSU causing failure. The system would flash the lights for a split second when attempting to power on. LED lights “lighting up” definitely doesn’t mean the power supply is ok. It means nothing lol.
Hey Dawid, great video as always. Love your style. BTW, what is the benchmark overlay software you use for game testing? I can't seem to find a link in your videos, and i haven't heard you name it before.
I can't remember but did you reset the BIOS/EFI and maybe checked the BIOS battery. Greg Szalazar had once a system acting up because the BIOS battery was at low voltage and replacing it fixed everything.
The mobo seemed to be missing the heatsink from the southbridge chip. Sus? Assume not like this from factory, unless it needed removing to fit the vertical riser & bracket?
I'm not sure how I feel about the M.2 slot that just sticks out to the side. I find it silly, yet part of me also now really wants a motherboard with 4-8 of them down the side.
i gotta say, changing everything but the mobo may not solve it, but did you try resetting the bios? perhaps flashing it back if it has a flashback option? these systems have "modded" bios options that typically dont end well...
One thing I find that helps with troubleshooting, most motherboards still have a speaker header so keeping a supply of those little piezo electric beepers on hand to plug in really helps with this because they still have beep codes
I am guessing the problem all along was the PCIe riser cable, the bad one probably fried something in the PCIe slot whenever it failed and you got lucky the same didn't happen when you tried it on the new mobo. Did you ever test the mobo video outputs to see if the CPU would output any image?
Have you tried replacing the CMOS battery on that board? I’ve revived a few seemingly dead motherboards by replacing the battery. It may not always work, but it’s worth a shot.
just curious on 2 things, you never tried igpu with no gpu, and you never tried unhooking unneeded drives and usb headers. i have seen a damaged usb port short and cause this exact situation.
I just recently replaced my Gigabyte Aorus X570 Master and Ryzen 5900x when it would POST but wouldn't boot any OS. After trying to troubleshoot it for a few days, I came to the conclusion that it had to be the motherboard. Not wanting to spend the money to replace the X570 Master, I just went and upgraded to a 7900X and AM5 motherboard. The new system ran fine for just over a week and then would not post halting with a CPU diagnostic LED lit. One power supply replacement later and the new hardware is working fine. I haven't had a chance to test the Aorus and 5900x yet but I'm pretty sure that the power supply was the entire problem.
Does the m/b have a qflash or similar option, I know it’s unlikely but it could just be the cpu was incompatible with the m/b and a bios upgrade could fix it.
I suspect the PCI-E riser to be at fault. Seen a lot of bad reviews on the rain forest website saying they went that route and the cable burned up their motherboard. It worked and worked, then just fried stuff. This is what kept me from buying one. My case will also smash the GPU up against the glass panel so I'd have to end up "Going Commando" leaving the side panel off the PC to get any use out of it.
At around 5 minutes in I'm wondering why not just disconnect the riser cable. Assuming the processor has integrated graphics, you could see if it's the gpu without removing it. I'd also check for any diagnostic LEDs on the motherboard and check for a speaker connection for POST code beeps. I would not have replaced the memory first or tried to tear out the GPU.
PC Diags 101: (I agree on the system speaker comments from others, but if somehow not available:) Remove all the add-on cards, Ram, GPU, SSD etc. Reset Bios. Check CPU seat. Test post with known good CPU, GPU, Ram, PSU start re-adding original things. My bet would be the board is fine, but had a bad bios loadout. Someone tried to OC improperly maybe. Otherwise fair enough process.
David, have you tried to reflash BIOS into the seemingly dead motherboard? Once you have ruled out that is the motherboard, doing a BIOS reflash is mandatory: if that works, BIOS got corrupted for some reason (e.g. CPU and/or memory failing or unstable OC, happened to me a lot of times). If that is not the case, then is something related with the hardware of the motherboard. Note that sometimes CLRMOS has to be performed and/or CMOS battery must be replaced to prevent corrupted BIOS / some special systems (e.g. some HPs) won't even POST properly (though having video output signal) if CMOS battery is almost dead
Based on the symptoms, step one is power supply because they in fact do not fail spectacularly very often like you said they do. Next is the ram, next is gpu (not the riser because they don't often just fail unless they have been moved a lot such as when kept messing with it) you could have just removed the riser cable from the PCI slot and power from the GPU and tested with the igpu. Next would be the NVMe drives because being PCIe devices they can cause no post on failure, cpu is last, and then finally mobo. I'd have pulled the mobo when I pulled the cpu and tried it with known good RAM and PSU on an antistatic mat with nothing else plugged in
For everyone whose day I clearly ruined by not checking the CMOS. This morning I reset the CMOS and tested the motherboard with a different CPU, PSU, RAM and GPU. The motherboard is in fact still not working.
Also, I know Predator is an Acer sub brand. My holiday brain just misspoke.
Thanks for watching, bye!
Flash the BIOS, you've got a CH341A from another video I remember I think?
Seeing it's ACER it must have some Elma
Did you try to clear the CMOS?
Psu failure on load. Not steady cpu voltage
Did you check that the jumpers are all in their correct position? If clear cmos jumper is left in clear the system will not boot
In today's video Dawid refuses to admit that he has an Acer PC by repeatedly calling it an HP to try and shame it into working.
I choose to believe this
There is no greater shame than being called an HP. 😂
@@DawidDoesTechStuff what about being called a dell?
@@stolenchaserAdele is a great artist!
Is Acer better than HP? In my experience Acer (and Dell) have been worse than HP.
Imagine how wild global economy has to be that a PC assembled for a tournament in Germany ends up broken and sold in Canada.
It was even shipped from the US 😮😮😮
Yeah, it really is crazy.
If I had to guess: the participants or the staff got to take the rigs home, something happened the cheap motherboard in shipping, and it got put up on North American eBay.
Do you resell this back to Ebay 😂
I worked at ubi MTL during the summer of 2022 and I can absolutely confirm that Acer Predator were the PC sponsor of the Berlin Major. I remember seeing that exact case on the platform / stage thing that the players competed on so it absolutely could be a PC from that tournament, not sure if they did co-branded sales including the wallpaper or not.
true
The fact that Ubisoft can't provide better PCs than this suggests there was some embezzling going on there. I highly doubt Acer just gave them the PCs. The world of corporate sponsorship is a scammy shitshow. The best outcome is increased prices for consumers.
@@Lurch-Botubisoft? Buddy blame acer don't come up with some conspiracy theory
This PC is more broke than me.
Maybe the IceTunnel froze it.
Manufacturers naming of cooling accessories is so tacky.... Everything has to have ice, freeze, chill, or frozen in the name.
Don't forget the letter "X"@@volvo09
ye just too much cooling the mother board could not take it rip
The ice tunnel was just too powerful for its own good.
It's from acer better than expected
"Prostate shattering pile of crap" almost had me spit out my morning coffee 😂
Then he felt obliged to tell us exactly what he meant by that. I'm not sure my life was really improved by that. Not that this channel is about improving my life in any way whatsoever.
@@cv990a4 dose he know where it is
Haha it was the eye contact for me. I was shook 😂😂😂
i'm subscribed to that shit
@@AnnaDoes the eye contact definitely made it even better! 😂
The very first thing you should try in these situations is clearing the cmos. It's very easy and quick to do, doesn't require dismantling anything, and can fix the problem surprisingly often. There's no reason not to try it.
And the funny thing is that if the culprit is the cmos, when you don't check it you may get the false impression that the entire motherboard is bad, and trying another motherboard will just strengthen that confirmation bias if the other one seems to work. It may well be that there was nothing wrong with the original, you just had to clear the cmos to make it work. This can cause you completely unnecessary extra expenses.
I had the same reaction (no screen / no post) when upgrading my RAM and I forget to turn off the XMP profile. So reseting first is indeed a very good option.
Imagine how horrible it would be if he did that in the first place and it was just CMOS? The video would be like 30 seconds long.
I came to see if I had missed him clearing the Cmos
That's what I would try first as well. Clear CMOS, check the RAM and then try the GPU and other parts. Could be that previous owner was doing something in bios and broke it.
I would not be surprised if he forgot that after calling it a hp later in the video...
I'm very curious why every tech UA-camr seems to have forgotten that almost all motherboards still have beep codes for troubleshooting, and the PC speakers, with the slide-on connector, are like $5 for a pack of three on Amazon. Am I just that old, and this is forgotten magic of eons long past?
Never heard of it, even on reddit
Yeah 🤷♂, I have one on all my PCs
I just got a new pack of 5 for $4.95AUD Delivered off Ebay down here...
After reading Dawid's replies yeah makes sense for serious channels but this is Dawid 😂
Well, I'm not old and I have a spare beeper in a bag with other small PC stuff. IIRC it is not quiet standardized, though, so without a manual it can be quiet tricky to decipher...
That mobo looks cheap and specifically made for the pre build, the gpu too, so it probably doesn't have that feature, my mobo has the lights and the sound thing and it really helps me when I have some problems with my ram in my first build
mobo probably didn't come with built in speaker , but basically anyone who builds regularly pc's has one lying around and it had a connector for it
this guy isn't bright, didn't even bother removing the bios battery to see maybe that would reset the mobo lol
PC clearly has Acer written all over it.
Dawid: Calls it HP 😂
I'm suprised he didnt call it a Dell (Alienware)
same garbage different dumpster
@@antongrekov7710 Exactly, they’re all just the same pile of crap to me. 😂
@@DawidDoesTechStuff clap clap clap
As a Romanian I can say that 13 year old Romanian kids do not buy broken prebuilds, they do way worse.
They steal and break the already broken prebuilds?
@@ArtisChronicles wth are u talking abt?, u have never been to romanis
India and egypt has more scamers and its a loot safer
@@andreirintye8916 fake news!
@@ArtisChroniclesno since we can get a job and get a pc were in india people scam and steal and they aren't punish for it
@@andreirintye8916 I'd better live in Romania than in India(and I'm from Hungary)
As a Semi-Pro Seige player, seeing that background, I can confirm that, the pc u have is very likely to have been in the berlin major, we had a "major" around the same time and we were using hand me downs from a pro league and this system looks almost identical (ours used 3060's) and that wallpaper was only ever used during the major. I am VERY jealous
Was going to be in the Berlin Major but failed due to the world's cheapest GPU riser.
@@Lurch-Bot should have bought lunchly
9:40 No way!! A Samsung Galaxy Z Fold SSD!!
😂
LMAO!
If you have a Mobo Speaker you can plug one in and it will give error beeps.
Exactly what I was thinking. Very likely a corrupted BIOS.
The surgical process is so well practised now that it makes me wonder if there is a parallel universe where Dawid is a famous heart surgeon. Losing scalpels in the endless abyss of some guys open heart surgery.
A graduate from the Derp University College of Medicine.
For troubleshooting: Buying motherboard speaker beeper helps me a lot.
I have like 37 of them laying around from various free PCs I've picked up over the years.
I asked for one like this to play and well, does anyone know where to find Office and Windows keys? I need them haha
Poor you but at least I come to your aid in BNH Software you may get it
0:13
Dawid definitely got his wallet stole by a Romanian.
No, he gave it to them.😉
Maybe I’ve been the Romanian child all along.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff I mean there are alot of people in romanian called david and also dawid prob ??
@@DawidDoesTechStuff aha
A wallet drops on the ground... Who's gonna reach it first? light or a Romanian?
clear the cmos wouldve been my first move, after plugging in the CPU power connector which wasnt plugged in. pretty sure that board is fine.
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How do you know the CPU power connector wasn't plugged in?
might want to rewatch the video, the Mobo has 8 + 4 EPS & the 8pin was plugged in until Dawid removed the Mobo
checking, the cpu power was plugged in, this board just has a 8pin (plugged in) and a 4pin (unplugged), it should be just fine only having the 8pin plugged in
Also should've tried mobo video outputs, lol.
$750? The old prostate did get quite a workout ..
One may wonder what the monetary value of a human prostate is 😂
I dunno, I’ve always thought that bad PSUs give you all kinds of weird, seemingly unrelated symptoms. They do more than just go pop and release the magic blue smoke.
I can confirm my 2 previous (and only) dead PSUs just turn the fan and rgb on, and nothing else, so it looks exactly like that computer lol.
I had one customers PC whose kept shutting down under load due to faulty PSU. It also damaged the GPU which no longer outputs and fans do not spin.
Another customers PC had a faulty unit, which would take 45 minutes to respond after pressing the power button. It would make a "click" but wouldn't power on for a long time. I verified this with my PSU tester, same thing. New PSU, works perfectly.
I have also seen a couple of PSUs that exploded as soon as I plugged in the power cable... One was a PC I bought off of eBay so don't know if it survived because I returned it. The other one was from early 2000s, and was lucky because every single other component worked perfectly.
Also someone who worked in the office had a mini Acer PC, in less than 1 year, the PSU decided to explode, I opened it up and yeah massive scorch marks on the underneath of the PSU..of course this one was proprietary so had to overpay for a replacement on eBay but the replacement was from a better brand (FSP, the one that exploded was Lite-on, a company I've had a few bad experiences with)
Those dont touch stickers gives me uncontrollable laughter!! EPIC!
Anyone who is stupid enough to stick their finger into a spinning fan isn't going to be able to read that anyway.
I love this format of video, the process of elimination and finding what works and what doesn’t is part of what makes salvaging/diagnosing pc’s worthwhile. And seeing dawid go through it is a treat to say the least😂
Forgive me, but did you try resetting the bios? I had a dell optiplex which used to lose its mind everytime there was an improper shutdown mostly due to power outage, I had to reset the bios for it to work again.
Really like the double Don't Touch edition 3070. Hopefully they will fit some real Makita circular saw blade in the 4070 Don't Touch edition
Dang that Prostate 🤣 @60 a trip to the bathroom is an adventure! Cliff hanger there around 13:00 really glad the card worked, Thanks for another great video, Hope the new space is working out for you Have a nice day Dawid!
I'm betting 50 bucks that mainboard still works if you just tested it with a PC speaker and reset the BIOS as well. FIGHT ME.
Please like absolutely please 666K Dawid, exorcise Elma once and for all with a PC speaker i'm begging you!!
And PSU tester while you're at it, both of these things cost like 20 bucks total...
I have a Cosmos Elite and suitable pc. But, I think the lenses might be short throw. I can't get a stable clear image without it being a skull vice.
I think it's really cool that you found one of the PCS from the Berlin major. It's actually kind of cool for someone who plays a lot of R6
Isn't Predator an Acer brand, not HP?
He is drunk.
You should get a speaker for the motherboard, really helps with identifying issues, for example you can remove the ram and if the system bips it means the mobo and processor seems to be working, if doesnt bip the problem is on the mobo or cpu since the system looks for the processor first, ram second.
Sometimes a faulty nvme drive make the pc not boot. I was building a pc once and got a faulty crucial p2. Whenever I plugged it in it didnt make the PC boot , removing it would make the pc boot.
"Prostate-shattering pile of crap" is going into my growing list of Dawidisms.
I've had one of those before - worst constipation ever.
@@Lurch-Bot The user name of Lurch somehow makes your post even more appropriate.
15:36 but you did say you bought it a long time ago so maybe that can be chalked up to the dark ages of GPU pricing when a 3070 was worth $700ish by itself, which brings me to the end of this comment, until the next time thank you for reading, bye bye!
Some of the ducting gizmos in that case might actually make a difference, particularly to GPU temps. Front fans don't create much air flow beyond the front half of the case, they just swirl it around there and raise pressure at the back which actually impedes the GPU fans trying to pull in air through the PCI grille. Vanes or ducts can straighten air flow and get it to the back of the case (under the GPU). Even without the "Ice Tunnel" duct those GPU and CPU temperatures were actually quite impressive but our esteemed host seemed pretty glib about them.
This is why I am sad that they stopped putting a PC speaker header on a lot of new motherboards.
I appreciate you trying to make it feel natural putting in the lexar ram for the sponsor. Love your videos!
Dawid is slowly starting to look like a homeless dude who hasn't been to the barber in years
you mean like a typical IT dude?
@@thesolver1970 hmm i shave regularly and cut my hair once a month and i can tell the difference between acer and hp
then again he is a clown and not an it guy
@@r3tr0c0e3but you also dont have a 4090 lying around
hey david , just put some aux speakers in rear aux port(green ) it may give you sound beeps like signal for different posting etc issues which you can google for what error it is according to brand
NGL Vertical GPUs is a pretty good idea considering how heavy those mfs are, good on acer for doing that, but that front panel tho
Riser cable just introduces another failure point, well illustrated in this video. But if your average gamer understood the first thing about failure analysis, AIOs wouldn't exist. Meanwhile, you can buy a GPU support for $10 or just use some Legos to support it. My takeaway here is never buy a pre-built with a GPU riser cable. You wanna spend $50 on a good riser cable for a DIY build, that's your business. I'd rather spend it on more storage.
When aesthetics took over functionality a ton of issues with pcs started to happen
I recently fixed my RTX 4090, i7-13700 build. You wanna know why it stopped turning on? One of my RAM sticks went bad. The motherboard refused to boot while that stick was plugged in. It works fine with only the one good working stick in it. That is how annoying PC problems can be. I tested each stick in all 4 RAM slots until the system booted. 😩
No keyboard detected. Press F1…. Always makes me laugh
What in all that is holy was the 2nd NVMe doing just chilling off the side of the motherboard?
And then the WiFi card was sat all alone when the I/O area had a ton of space.
Are the engineers over at Acer really that bad?
When i start working on a pc that isnt working i first wipe the cmos. That often helps. Did you try this?
I would have tried that too, just yank the battery and try again in a bit.
he was drunk while troubleshooting this. Basically he just did not want to diagnose the motherboard coz he could just replace it.
Could be the CPU mounting bracket. LGA 1700 is notorious for memory issues when not properly mounted. The official bracket design doesn't apply pressure evenly. That's why aftermarket brackets are so popular.
And, if still not working, it might have corrupted BIOS. You can either sell it cheap, or buy a SPI programmer.
if it was me doing the examination, I'd also reset the BIOS on a mobo before swapping it out. just because it's faster to take out the battery instead of unscrewing the entire thing.
First rule of dead pc. Check for cmos and bios issues. Don’t ask why I know this, 😂😂😂
@@seanmack1087 we've all been there.
Yep, remember checking everything and the fix was swapping dead bios battery. Apparently some mobo post and say that battery is dead, but some just refuse to start.
Love seeing my name on the Patreon list in every video... Makes my happy to support such an amazing UA-camr and person... Dankie Dawid
(also if you wanna feel special just know you are literally the first and only Patreon I'm supporting - You damn well deserve it)
666k subscribers. This channel needs an exorcism.
isnt dawid jewish? if so i think he would find that number to be beautiful
@@polarvortex6601 I'm not sure. At the risk of stereotyping most jewish people I know are very intelligent :)
@@doobybrother21 i didnt say that they were stupid. i just said that the number 6 is pretty special for them. if you have peeked in to the kabbalah and zohar and even talmud you will know that was i just said above its true :)
666 is a number of a man and has nothing to do with whatever you think it is
Did you do a CMOS reset on the motherboard ? Sometimes it can fix problems.
"Thank Gaben that worked" is what I say everytime I need to come up with an excuse to open cases in cs
Thanks for another vid Dawid! Can't wait for the VR plays!
Serious question: why is step 2 not connecting a mobo speaker for post error code beeps?
Just posted the same comment. Was wondering the same thing.
he was drunk while making this video.
13:15 what is that weird thing that looks like a cpu without the cover that’s below the top PCIE slot?
You really need a post card and power supply tester
Do post cards work in modern PC's? I was just thinking of how handy that would be, but something in my mind is saying they don't work with modern PC's for some reason...
Am I right or wrong?
@@volvo09 I believe there are PCIe pluggable ones nowadays, but it's usually just easier to get small PC speaker lol
The pcie cards work well and you can see the voltage the rails are putting out
@@CarbonPanther thanks, I have idea why I was thinking that then.
I'd be interested in more testing of the supposed dead pc part on it's own outside the case a bit more, even if you just mention testing it again. Curious if resetting the bios would have any effect.
-that being said, I have only had one mobo die on me out of the blue and it behaved similarly, and only gave me ram and cpu error codes.
For the price you paid for that PC, seems like it was the one that shattered your prostate along with your wallet.
I've seen power supplies fail without blowing up, they just might not be putting out enough current. I almost wonder if that board that was in it was just a bad BIOS update. Who knows if it has some kind of flashback feature though.
he is drunk
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Generally speaking, if a PC starts up when you plug the PSU into the mains, there's a problem with the motherboard. A properly working motherboard will not boot the system unless it detects a power-on signal. Plugging it in is not a power-on signal.
I watch this, and I wonder, why put everything back into the case to begin testing with the new board?
can't believe he didn't reset the bios, im 8 minutes in and he's replacing everything lol
Power supplies do not always “fail spectacularly”. I’ve had systems overheat and loosen solder on a PSU causing failure. The system would flash the lights for a split second when attempting to power on. LED lights “lighting up” definitely doesn’t mean the power supply is ok. It means nothing lol.
you forgot to reset the bios it could have overclocked wrong or have a bad bios update.
exactly
Hey Dawid, great video as always. Love your style. BTW, what is the benchmark overlay software you use for game testing? I can't seem to find a link in your videos, and i haven't heard you name it before.
Acer loser desktop's disappointed at being called an HP at 10:42.
and 11:08
I can't remember but did you reset the BIOS/EFI and maybe checked the BIOS battery. Greg Szalazar had once a system acting up because the BIOS battery was at low voltage and replacing it fixed everything.
ofcourse he was drunk while making this video.
You're videos are so funny, love the innuendos, keep up the good work
try running pcie gen 3 with the riser cable. gen 4 cables are very problematic
Did you try to reset the CMOS or Test that the battery was ok some of these custom PC's won't even post if the battery is flat
The mobo seemed to be missing the heatsink from the southbridge chip. Sus? Assume not like this from factory, unless it needed removing to fit the vertical riser & bracket?
Did you get new cameras, cause damn that looks good.
Always glad to see a new video from you.
I'm not sure how I feel about the M.2 slot that just sticks out to the side. I find it silly, yet part of me also now really wants a motherboard with 4-8 of them down the side.
00:10 ...the fact that my country is mostly known for scams is amazing
Shouldn't it give out beep-codes when you put a piezo speaker in it?
i gotta say, changing everything but the mobo
may not solve it, but did you try resetting the bios?
perhaps flashing it back if it has a flashback option?
these systems have "modded" bios options that typically
dont end well...
One thing I find that helps with troubleshooting, most motherboards still have a speaker header so keeping a supply of those little piezo electric beepers on hand to plug in really helps with this because they still have beep codes
The extreme sarcasm in these videos is what got me addicted to dawid's videos
I am guessing the problem all along was the PCIe riser cable, the bad one probably fried something in the PCIe slot whenever it failed and you got lucky the same didn't happen when you tried it on the new mobo. Did you ever test the mobo video outputs to see if the CPU would output any image?
Have you tried replacing the CMOS battery on that board? I’ve revived a few seemingly dead motherboards by replacing the battery. It may not always work, but it’s worth a shot.
watching this is the equivalent of Dawid dangling his balls over a tank of sharks 😂
Glad to see good ad👏🏻good for u lexar,great memory
The ice tunnel reminds me of old school dell where they had all sorts of shrouds and plastic junk for the fans and drives😂
just curious on 2 things, you never tried igpu with no gpu, and you never tried unhooking unneeded drives and usb headers. i have seen a damaged usb port short and cause this exact situation.
Did you try the motherboard in another pc ? Without plugging all the cables from the case ?
I just recently replaced my Gigabyte Aorus X570 Master and Ryzen 5900x when it would POST but wouldn't boot any OS. After trying to troubleshoot it for a few days, I came to the conclusion that it had to be the motherboard. Not wanting to spend the money to replace the X570 Master, I just went and upgraded to a 7900X and AM5 motherboard. The new system ran fine for just over a week and then would not post halting with a CPU diagnostic LED lit. One power supply replacement later and the new hardware is working fine. I haven't had a chance to test the Aorus and 5900x yet but I'm pretty sure that the power supply was the entire problem.
Dawid.. with your glorious hair and powers of resurrecting PCs ..we should start calling you Computer Jesus!! 😅
Looking forward to your VR experience. I've done it twice, this year and also in 1991. Quite the difference!
Does the m/b have a qflash or similar option, I know it’s unlikely but it could just be the cpu was incompatible with the m/b and a bios upgrade could fix it.
Uhhhh, Im at 4:25, is the south bridge chip suppose to be without a heatsink on this motherboard??
who knows
Fun vid. I'm always down to watch Dawid struggle with tech
I suspect the PCI-E riser to be at fault. Seen a lot of bad reviews on the rain forest website saying they went that route and the cable burned up their motherboard. It worked and worked, then just fried stuff. This is what kept me from buying one. My case will also smash the GPU up against the glass panel so I'd have to end up "Going Commando" leaving the side panel off the PC to get any use out of it.
At around 5 minutes in I'm wondering why not just disconnect the riser cable. Assuming the processor has integrated graphics, you could see if it's the gpu without removing it. I'd also check for any diagnostic LEDs on the motherboard and check for a speaker connection for POST code beeps. I would not have replaced the memory first or tried to tear out the GPU.
12700K has integrated graphics. Should have gone to bios with no video card installed.
Dawid still has not apologised for calling left-handed calling as lesser people. What a man.
Did you try taking the nvme drives out? I've had bad nvme stop a boot in similar fashion
PC Diags 101: (I agree on the system speaker comments from others, but if somehow not available:) Remove all the add-on cards, Ram, GPU, SSD etc. Reset Bios. Check CPU seat. Test post with known good CPU, GPU, Ram, PSU start re-adding original things. My bet would be the board is fine, but had a bad bios loadout. Someone tried to OC improperly maybe. Otherwise fair enough process.
Dawid trying to fix eBay VD-PC??? Hell yeah!
David, have you tried to reflash BIOS into the seemingly dead motherboard?
Once you have ruled out that is the motherboard, doing a BIOS reflash is mandatory: if that works, BIOS got corrupted for some reason (e.g. CPU and/or memory failing or unstable OC, happened to me a lot of times). If that is not the case, then is something related with the hardware of the motherboard.
Note that sometimes CLRMOS has to be performed and/or CMOS battery must be replaced to prevent corrupted BIOS / some special systems (e.g. some HPs) won't even POST properly (though having video output signal) if CMOS battery is almost dead
0:11 Hey man, when the Pixie had got you, she's got you BAD.
1:05 "Now the point of today's video is to see if I can get this *Predator* working"
Come on now Dawid.
Based on the symptoms, step one is power supply because they in fact do not fail spectacularly very often like you said they do. Next is the ram, next is gpu (not the riser because they don't often just fail unless they have been moved a lot such as when kept messing with it) you could have just removed the riser cable from the PCI slot and power from the GPU and tested with the igpu. Next would be the NVMe drives because being PCIe devices they can cause no post on failure, cpu is last, and then finally mobo. I'd have pulled the mobo when I pulled the cpu and tried it with known good RAM and PSU on an antistatic mat with nothing else plugged in
Always hilarious yet informative. Also congratulations on the Number of The Beast subscribers Dawid!