For everyone whose day I clearly ruined by not checking the CMOS. This morning I reset the CMOS and tested the motherboard with a different CPU, PSU, RAM and GPU. The motherboard is in fact still not working. Also, I know Predator is an Acer sub brand. My holiday brain just misspoke. Thanks for watching, bye!
I worked at ubi MTL during the summer of 2022 and I can absolutely confirm that Acer Predator were the PC sponsor of the Berlin Major. I remember seeing that exact case on the platform / stage thing that the players competed on so it absolutely could be a PC from that tournament, not sure if they did co-branded sales including the wallpaper or not.
The fact that Ubisoft can't provide better PCs than this suggests there was some embezzling going on there. I highly doubt Acer just gave them the PCs. The world of corporate sponsorship is a scammy shitshow. The best outcome is increased prices for consumers.
As a Semi-Pro Seige player, seeing that background, I can confirm that, the pc u have is very likely to have been in the berlin major, we had a "major" around the same time and we were using hand me downs from a pro league and this system looks almost identical (ours used 3060's) and that wallpaper was only ever used during the major. I am VERY jealous
If I had to guess: the participants or the staff got to take the rigs home, something happened the cheap motherboard in shipping, and it got put up on North American eBay.
I'm very curious why every tech UA-camr seems to have forgotten that almost all motherboards still have beep codes for troubleshooting, and the PC speakers, with the slide-on connector, are like $5 for a pack of three on Amazon. Am I just that old, and this is forgotten magic of eons long past?
Yeah 🤷♂, I have one on all my PCs I just got a new pack of 5 for $4.95AUD Delivered off Ebay down here... After reading Dawid's replies yeah makes sense for serious channels but this is Dawid 😂
Well, I'm not old and I have a spare beeper in a bag with other small PC stuff. IIRC it is not quiet standardized, though, so without a manual it can be quiet tricky to decipher...
That mobo looks cheap and specifically made for the pre build, the gpu too, so it probably doesn't have that feature, my mobo has the lights and the sound thing and it really helps me when I have some problems with my ram in my first build
mobo probably didn't come with built in speaker , but basically anyone who builds regularly pc's has one lying around and it had a connector for it this guy isn't bright, didn't even bother removing the bios battery to see maybe that would reset the mobo lol
Then he felt obliged to tell us exactly what he meant by that. I'm not sure my life was really improved by that. Not that this channel is about improving my life in any way whatsoever.
The very first thing you should try in these situations is clearing the cmos. It's very easy and quick to do, doesn't require dismantling anything, and can fix the problem surprisingly often. There's no reason not to try it. And the funny thing is that if the culprit is the cmos, when you don't check it you may get the false impression that the entire motherboard is bad, and trying another motherboard will just strengthen that confirmation bias if the other one seems to work. It may well be that there was nothing wrong with the original, you just had to clear the cmos to make it work. This can cause you completely unnecessary extra expenses.
I had the same reaction (no screen / no post) when upgrading my RAM and I forget to turn off the XMP profile. So reseting first is indeed a very good option.
That's what I would try first as well. Clear CMOS, check the RAM and then try the GPU and other parts. Could be that previous owner was doing something in bios and broke it.
The surgical process is so well practised now that it makes me wonder if there is a parallel universe where Dawid is a famous heart surgeon. Losing scalpels in the endless abyss of some guys open heart surgery.
Dang that Prostate 🤣 @60 a trip to the bathroom is an adventure! Cliff hanger there around 13:00 really glad the card worked, Thanks for another great video, Hope the new space is working out for you Have a nice day Dawid!
I love this format of video, the process of elimination and finding what works and what doesn’t is part of what makes salvaging/diagnosing pc’s worthwhile. And seeing dawid go through it is a treat to say the least😂
Broken PCs used to be so cheap and were an awesome bargain deal for savvy starters. Now they are almost as expensive as intro builds themselves. What a joke.
You should get a speaker for the motherboard, really helps with identifying issues, for example you can remove the ram and if the system bips it means the mobo and processor seems to be working, if doesnt bip the problem is on the mobo or cpu since the system looks for the processor first, ram second.
Some of the ducting gizmos in that case might actually make a difference, particularly to GPU temps. Front fans don't create much air flow beyond the front half of the case, they just swirl it around there and raise pressure at the back which actually impedes the GPU fans trying to pull in air through the PCI grille. Vanes or ducts can straighten air flow and get it to the back of the case (under the GPU). Even without the "Ice Tunnel" duct those GPU and CPU temperatures were actually quite impressive but our esteemed host seemed pretty glib about them.
I dunno, I’ve always thought that bad PSUs give you all kinds of weird, seemingly unrelated symptoms. They do more than just go pop and release the magic blue smoke.
I had one customers PC whose kept shutting down under load due to faulty PSU. It also damaged the GPU which no longer outputs and fans do not spin. Another customers PC had a faulty unit, which would take 45 minutes to respond after pressing the power button. It would make a "click" but wouldn't power on for a long time. I verified this with my PSU tester, same thing. New PSU, works perfectly. I have also seen a couple of PSUs that exploded as soon as I plugged in the power cable... One was a PC I bought off of eBay so don't know if it survived because I returned it. The other one was from early 2000s, and was lucky because every single other component worked perfectly. Also someone who worked in the office had a mini Acer PC, in less than 1 year, the PSU decided to explode, I opened it up and yeah massive scorch marks on the underneath of the PSU..of course this one was proprietary so had to overpay for a replacement on eBay but the replacement was from a better brand (FSP, the one that exploded was Lite-on, a company I've had a few bad experiences with)
checking, the cpu power was plugged in, this board just has a 8pin (plugged in) and a 4pin (unplugged), it should be just fine only having the 8pin plugged in
Love seeing my name on the Patreon list in every video... Makes my happy to support such an amazing UA-camr and person... Dankie Dawid (also if you wanna feel special just know you are literally the first and only Patreon I'm supporting - You damn well deserve it)
@@thesolver1970 hmm i shave regularly and cut my hair once a month and i can tell the difference between acer and hp then again he is a clown and not an it guy
I'm betting 50 bucks that mainboard still works if you just tested it with a PC speaker and reset the BIOS as well. FIGHT ME. Please like absolutely please 666K Dawid, exorcise Elma once and for all with a PC speaker i'm begging you!! And PSU tester while you're at it, both of these things cost like 20 bucks total...
One thing I find that helps with troubleshooting, most motherboards still have a speaker header so keeping a supply of those little piezo electric beepers on hand to plug in really helps with this because they still have beep codes
if it was me doing the examination, I'd also reset the BIOS on a mobo before swapping it out. just because it's faster to take out the battery instead of unscrewing the entire thing.
Yep, remember checking everything and the fix was swapping dead bios battery. Apparently some mobo post and say that battery is dead, but some just refuse to start.
Could be the CPU mounting bracket. LGA 1700 is notorious for memory issues when not properly mounted. The official bracket design doesn't apply pressure evenly. That's why aftermarket brackets are so popular. And, if still not working, it might have corrupted BIOS. You can either sell it cheap, or buy a SPI programmer.
Riser cable just introduces another failure point, well illustrated in this video. But if your average gamer understood the first thing about failure analysis, AIOs wouldn't exist. Meanwhile, you can buy a GPU support for $10 or just use some Legos to support it. My takeaway here is never buy a pre-built with a GPU riser cable. You wanna spend $50 on a good riser cable for a DIY build, that's your business. I'd rather spend it on more storage.
Based on the symptoms, step one is power supply because they in fact do not fail spectacularly very often like you said they do. Next is the ram, next is gpu (not the riser because they don't often just fail unless they have been moved a lot such as when kept messing with it) you could have just removed the riser cable from the PCI slot and power from the GPU and tested with the igpu. Next would be the NVMe drives because being PCIe devices they can cause no post on failure, cpu is last, and then finally mobo. I'd have pulled the mobo when I pulled the cpu and tried it with known good RAM and PSU on an antistatic mat with nothing else plugged in
Forgive me, but did you try resetting the bios? I had a dell optiplex which used to lose its mind everytime there was an improper shutdown mostly due to power outage, I had to reset the bios for it to work again.
hey david , just put some aux speakers in rear aux port(green ) it may give you sound beeps like signal for different posting etc issues which you can google for what error it is according to brand
Power supplies do not always “fail spectacularly”. I’ve had systems overheat and loosen solder on a PSU causing failure. The system would flash the lights for a split second when attempting to power on. LED lights “lighting up” definitely doesn’t mean the power supply is ok. It means nothing lol.
Sometimes a faulty nvme drive make the pc not boot. I was building a pc once and got a faulty crucial p2. Whenever I plugged it in it didnt make the PC boot , removing it would make the pc boot.
just a tips for troubleshooting If the motherboard have a speaker/buzzer pin, you can grab one buzzer for dirt cheap (at max it's 1 or 2 usd, even less actually, it's 5k idr on here(~0.5usd)) and try plug one into that pin it should beeps with some pattern, and then you can lookup on the motherboard brand for beep codes (for example "Asus (Motherboard Model) Beep Codes" easier than disassembling all of the part and swapping one by one tbh 😁
Hey Dawid, great video as always. Love your style. BTW, what is the benchmark overlay software you use for game testing? I can't seem to find a link in your videos, and i haven't heard you name it before.
@@doobybrother21 i didnt say that they were stupid. i just said that the number 6 is pretty special for them. if you have peeked in to the kabbalah and zohar and even talmud you will know that was i just said above its true :)
15:36 but you did say you bought it a long time ago so maybe that can be chalked up to the dark ages of GPU pricing when a 3070 was worth $700ish by itself, which brings me to the end of this comment, until the next time thank you for reading, bye bye!
I just recently replaced my Gigabyte Aorus X570 Master and Ryzen 5900x when it would POST but wouldn't boot any OS. After trying to troubleshoot it for a few days, I came to the conclusion that it had to be the motherboard. Not wanting to spend the money to replace the X570 Master, I just went and upgraded to a 7900X and AM5 motherboard. The new system ran fine for just over a week and then would not post halting with a CPU diagnostic LED lit. One power supply replacement later and the new hardware is working fine. I haven't had a chance to test the Aorus and 5900x yet but I'm pretty sure that the power supply was the entire problem.
Do post cards work in modern PC's? I was just thinking of how handy that would be, but something in my mind is saying they don't work with modern PC's for some reason... Am I right or wrong?
Great video as always! I also said “I bet it’s the riser cable” right off the hop, so we were both at least partially right lol. As a huge VR nerd, I’m very much looking forward to your next video! OptimumTech did one recently where he used it for his racing sim… perhaps you’ll be breaking yours out again? 🤔
Have you tried replacing the CMOS battery on that board? I’ve revived a few seemingly dead motherboards by replacing the battery. It may not always work, but it’s worth a shot.
I'd be interested in more testing of the supposed dead pc part on it's own outside the case a bit more, even if you just mention testing it again. Curious if resetting the bios would have any effect. -that being said, I have only had one mobo die on me out of the blue and it behaved similarly, and only gave me ram and cpu error codes.
Last week I troubleshot a pc I built and tested for my niece before shipping it to her. I set it up and repeatedly got power and no post. No mobs codes. I tried a different monitor, hdmi cable, and finally just pulled everything out minus the cpu and reset it along with a 4th check on all the cables. And reseating everything worked. I don’t know why or what was misaligned, but I was so happy it worked and my niece can game now as she didn’t have a pc before. Sometime tech just does that. Also once built 2 identical new pcs and only thru that did I find out one of my ram sticks was doa. Caused either pc it was in to not post. I have only built 4 pcs total now and 3 have had magic problems, but it was still fun to build. And I would do it again. Makes me want to try this buying a parts only but I have no use for more pcs.
Generally speaking, if a PC starts up when you plug the PSU into the mains, there's a problem with the motherboard. A properly working motherboard will not boot the system unless it detects a power-on signal. Plugging it in is not a power-on signal. I watch this, and I wonder, why put everything back into the case to begin testing with the new board?
Thanks for the cool vid man... Here's my unsolicited 10c :) You should still always first connect another psu before removing mbd as its a quick test. I've had many pc's starting up without posting with faulty psu's... So... If CPU has onchip graphics, remove Gaming Graphics card, Swap Mem, Swap PSU, then .... I've had a Case that created a short, causing it to just not start - rebuild the pc on the mdb box :) Have a good one
I almost forgot to mention: first, unplug the power cable, then press the power switch to discharge the capacitors. Next, pull the mbd battery and short the two battery poles with something metallic. I've actually seen motherboards fire right up after it probably swallowed a BIOS bug. Just don’t do it while the board’s powered, or you can kiss it goodbye. Oh, and if you’re reading this, maybe make a video messing around with the mbd you took out-see if it’ll come back to life. Could be interesting content if you’ve got other spares you’re not too sure about. My pleasure! :)
Good lucky with the VR! Unfortunately, it can be really complicated to get VR to work optimally, but if you're testing a popular title like Half Life Alyx, it should work right away. It's absolutely wonderful to play in VR after you got your "VR legs", but start with something simple like Beat Saber and maybe use teleportation in Half Life Alyx, otherwise you probably gonna feel nauseous your first time.
Fyi, in the past PCs would "beep" errors. So the front panel header should have an option to connect a buzzer and it will beep a code that will be referable via the manual. But watching you diagnose, is way more fun :).
The riser cable is probably fine. Most riser cables are PCIe gen 3 and that motherboard uses PCIe gen 4. Doesn't seem like that should be an issue... But the standards are different and if you do not go into bios and tell the system specifically to use gen 3 mode, it can cause symptoms similar to that of a dead GPU. I had the same thing happen when i upgraded my system from am4 to am5 and kept my RTX 3070.
I found the exact listing you posted. Sold for the exact same price as you paid for it. It states that the motherboard does not boot. You knew exactly what you bought.
It's amazing that a dead motherboard can still send power through the computer. In my experience, it often doesn't work at all. It's totally dead. When the RAM was broken, my Computers always got stuck on the post screen. Dead CPU nothing, dead PSU nothing at all.
Before anyone does all this disassembly, you should try a bios clear first. Judging by the gpu placement on this system, you would have to remove that to get to the cmos clear and battery anyway. CMS and uefi, and Windows secure boot can all cause non boot, the latter I have recently dealt with!😅
Probably the first thing I'd do is get it right down to a motherboard and power supply, and try to get it to beep, then you can start adding memory and video. I don't recall but you might be able to even get a board to beep without a CPU... Starting with the least amount of computer possible takes out a lot of things that could be wrong like all those SSDs.
If the system doesn't have a display of the POST codes connect a system speaker. I'm talking about the beeping kind hated by so many that a lot of people doesn't even know what is it. During POST a failure will be reported with a beep code. A successful POST is signaled by a single beep. Now check the beep code against the BIOS manufacturers signal table and it will tell you where the POST halted. Even if you don't bother to check the beep code table you at least get a signal. Change memory, graphics card or what ever and test again and see if the signal changes.
What in all that is holy was the 2nd NVMe doing just chilling off the side of the motherboard? And then the WiFi card was sat all alone when the I/O area had a ton of space. Are the engineers over at Acer really that bad?
Just a thought, I once had a motherboard die on me, so I started troubleshooting it and, to make the story short, everything checked out, it started, lights, but nothing after that (just like what you show on the video). After ages looking for the problem, it turned out to be that the bios tried to auto-update and failed, which corrupted the posting process of the MB. Fortunately the MB had a way of updating the bios from a USB by following the manufacturers procedure, and it started working again. Then I promptly disabled the auto-update feature and now I'm very picky about letting firmware auto-update.
For everyone whose day I clearly ruined by not checking the CMOS. This morning I reset the CMOS and tested the motherboard with a different CPU, PSU, RAM and GPU. The motherboard is in fact still not working.
Also, I know Predator is an Acer sub brand. My holiday brain just misspoke.
Thanks for watching, bye!
Flash the BIOS, you've got a CH341A from another video I remember I think?
Seeing it's ACER it must have some Elma
Did you try to clear the CMOS?
Psu failure on load. Not steady cpu voltage
Did you check that the jumpers are all in their correct position? If clear cmos jumper is left in clear the system will not boot
In today's video Dawid refuses to admit that he has an Acer PC by repeatedly calling it an HP to try and shame it into working.
I choose to believe this
There is no greater shame than being called an HP. 😂
@@DawidDoesTechStuff what about being called a dell?
@@stolenchaserAdele is a great artist!
Is Acer better than HP? In my experience Acer (and Dell) have been worse than HP.
I worked at ubi MTL during the summer of 2022 and I can absolutely confirm that Acer Predator were the PC sponsor of the Berlin Major. I remember seeing that exact case on the platform / stage thing that the players competed on so it absolutely could be a PC from that tournament, not sure if they did co-branded sales including the wallpaper or not.
true
The fact that Ubisoft can't provide better PCs than this suggests there was some embezzling going on there. I highly doubt Acer just gave them the PCs. The world of corporate sponsorship is a scammy shitshow. The best outcome is increased prices for consumers.
@@Lurch-Botubisoft? Buddy blame acer don't come up with some conspiracy theory
As a Semi-Pro Seige player, seeing that background, I can confirm that, the pc u have is very likely to have been in the berlin major, we had a "major" around the same time and we were using hand me downs from a pro league and this system looks almost identical (ours used 3060's) and that wallpaper was only ever used during the major. I am VERY jealous
Was going to be in the Berlin Major but failed due to the world's cheapest GPU riser.
@@Lurch-Bot should have bought lunchly
Imagine how wild global economy has to be that a PC assembled for a tournament in Germany ends up broken and sold in Canada.
It was even shipped from the US 😮😮😮
Yeah, it really is crazy.
If I had to guess: the participants or the staff got to take the rigs home, something happened the cheap motherboard in shipping, and it got put up on North American eBay.
Do you resell this back to Ebay 😂
I'm very curious why every tech UA-camr seems to have forgotten that almost all motherboards still have beep codes for troubleshooting, and the PC speakers, with the slide-on connector, are like $5 for a pack of three on Amazon. Am I just that old, and this is forgotten magic of eons long past?
Never heard of it, even on reddit
Yeah 🤷♂, I have one on all my PCs
I just got a new pack of 5 for $4.95AUD Delivered off Ebay down here...
After reading Dawid's replies yeah makes sense for serious channels but this is Dawid 😂
Well, I'm not old and I have a spare beeper in a bag with other small PC stuff. IIRC it is not quiet standardized, though, so without a manual it can be quiet tricky to decipher...
That mobo looks cheap and specifically made for the pre build, the gpu too, so it probably doesn't have that feature, my mobo has the lights and the sound thing and it really helps me when I have some problems with my ram in my first build
mobo probably didn't come with built in speaker , but basically anyone who builds regularly pc's has one lying around and it had a connector for it
this guy isn't bright, didn't even bother removing the bios battery to see maybe that would reset the mobo lol
PC clearly has Acer written all over it.
Dawid: Calls it HP 😂
I'm suprised he didnt call it a Dell (Alienware)
same garbage different dumpster
@@antongrekov7710 Exactly, they’re all just the same pile of crap to me. 😂
@@DawidDoesTechStuff clap clap clap
"Prostate shattering pile of crap" almost had me spit out my morning coffee 😂
Then he felt obliged to tell us exactly what he meant by that. I'm not sure my life was really improved by that. Not that this channel is about improving my life in any way whatsoever.
@@cv990a4 dose he know where it is
Haha it was the eye contact for me. I was shook 😂😂😂
i'm subscribed to that shit
@@AnnaDoes the eye contact definitely made it even better! 😂
The very first thing you should try in these situations is clearing the cmos. It's very easy and quick to do, doesn't require dismantling anything, and can fix the problem surprisingly often. There's no reason not to try it.
And the funny thing is that if the culprit is the cmos, when you don't check it you may get the false impression that the entire motherboard is bad, and trying another motherboard will just strengthen that confirmation bias if the other one seems to work. It may well be that there was nothing wrong with the original, you just had to clear the cmos to make it work. This can cause you completely unnecessary extra expenses.
I had the same reaction (no screen / no post) when upgrading my RAM and I forget to turn off the XMP profile. So reseting first is indeed a very good option.
Imagine how horrible it would be if he did that in the first place and it was just CMOS? The video would be like 30 seconds long.
I came to see if I had missed him clearing the Cmos
That's what I would try first as well. Clear CMOS, check the RAM and then try the GPU and other parts. Could be that previous owner was doing something in bios and broke it.
I would not be surprised if he forgot that after calling it a hp later in the video...
This PC is more broke than me.
Maybe the IceTunnel froze it.
Manufacturers naming of cooling accessories is so tacky.... Everything has to have ice, freeze, chill, or frozen in the name.
Don't forget the letter "X"@@volvo09
ye just too much cooling the mother board could not take it rip
The ice tunnel was just too powerful for its own good.
It's from acer better than expected
As a Romanian I can say that 13 year old Romanian kids do not buy broken prebuilds, they do way worse.
They steal and break the already broken prebuilds?
@@ArtisChronicles wth are u talking abt?, u have never been to romanis
India and egypt has more scamers and its a loot safer
@@andreirintye8916 fake news!
@@ArtisChroniclesno since we can get a job and get a pc were in india people scam and steal and they aren't punish for it
@@andreirintye8916 I'd better live in Romania than in India(and I'm from Hungary)
If you have a Mobo Speaker you can plug one in and it will give error beeps.
Exactly what I was thinking. Very likely a corrupted BIOS.
9:40 No way!! A Samsung Galaxy Z Fold SSD!!
😂
LMAO!
The surgical process is so well practised now that it makes me wonder if there is a parallel universe where Dawid is a famous heart surgeon. Losing scalpels in the endless abyss of some guys open heart surgery.
A graduate from the Derp University College of Medicine.
Dang that Prostate 🤣 @60 a trip to the bathroom is an adventure! Cliff hanger there around 13:00 really glad the card worked, Thanks for another great video, Hope the new space is working out for you Have a nice day Dawid!
For troubleshooting: Buying motherboard speaker beeper helps me a lot.
I have like 37 of them laying around from various free PCs I've picked up over the years.
Those dont touch stickers gives me uncontrollable laughter!! EPIC!
Anyone who is stupid enough to stick their finger into a spinning fan isn't going to be able to read that anyway.
I love this format of video, the process of elimination and finding what works and what doesn’t is part of what makes salvaging/diagnosing pc’s worthwhile. And seeing dawid go through it is a treat to say the least😂
Broken PCs used to be so cheap and were an awesome bargain deal for savvy starters. Now they are almost as expensive as intro builds themselves. What a joke.
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Dawid definitely got his wallet stole by a Romanian.
No, he gave it to them.😉
Maybe I’ve been the Romanian child all along.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff I mean there are alot of people in romanian called david and also dawid prob ??
@@DawidDoesTechStuff aha
A wallet drops on the ground... Who's gonna reach it first? light or a Romanian?
I think it's really cool that you found one of the PCS from the Berlin major. It's actually kind of cool for someone who plays a lot of R6
You should get a speaker for the motherboard, really helps with identifying issues, for example you can remove the ram and if the system bips it means the mobo and processor seems to be working, if doesnt bip the problem is on the mobo or cpu since the system looks for the processor first, ram second.
I asked for one like this to play and well, does anyone know where to find Office and Windows keys? I need them haha
Poor you but at least I come to your aid in BNH Software you may get it
Some of the ducting gizmos in that case might actually make a difference, particularly to GPU temps. Front fans don't create much air flow beyond the front half of the case, they just swirl it around there and raise pressure at the back which actually impedes the GPU fans trying to pull in air through the PCI grille. Vanes or ducts can straighten air flow and get it to the back of the case (under the GPU). Even without the "Ice Tunnel" duct those GPU and CPU temperatures were actually quite impressive but our esteemed host seemed pretty glib about them.
I dunno, I’ve always thought that bad PSUs give you all kinds of weird, seemingly unrelated symptoms. They do more than just go pop and release the magic blue smoke.
I can confirm my 2 previous (and only) dead PSUs just turn the fan and rgb on, and nothing else, so it looks exactly like that computer lol.
I had one customers PC whose kept shutting down under load due to faulty PSU. It also damaged the GPU which no longer outputs and fans do not spin.
Another customers PC had a faulty unit, which would take 45 minutes to respond after pressing the power button. It would make a "click" but wouldn't power on for a long time. I verified this with my PSU tester, same thing. New PSU, works perfectly.
I have also seen a couple of PSUs that exploded as soon as I plugged in the power cable... One was a PC I bought off of eBay so don't know if it survived because I returned it. The other one was from early 2000s, and was lucky because every single other component worked perfectly.
Also someone who worked in the office had a mini Acer PC, in less than 1 year, the PSU decided to explode, I opened it up and yeah massive scorch marks on the underneath of the PSU..of course this one was proprietary so had to overpay for a replacement on eBay but the replacement was from a better brand (FSP, the one that exploded was Lite-on, a company I've had a few bad experiences with)
clear the cmos wouldve been my first move, after plugging in the CPU power connector which wasnt plugged in. pretty sure that board is fine.
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How do you know the CPU power connector wasn't plugged in?
might want to rewatch the video, the Mobo has 8 + 4 EPS & the 8pin was plugged in until Dawid removed the Mobo
checking, the cpu power was plugged in, this board just has a 8pin (plugged in) and a 4pin (unplugged), it should be just fine only having the 8pin plugged in
Also should've tried mobo video outputs, lol.
Really like the double Don't Touch edition 3070. Hopefully they will fit some real Makita circular saw blade in the 4070 Don't Touch edition
Love seeing my name on the Patreon list in every video... Makes my happy to support such an amazing UA-camr and person... Dankie Dawid
(also if you wanna feel special just know you are literally the first and only Patreon I'm supporting - You damn well deserve it)
$750? The old prostate did get quite a workout ..
One may wonder what the monetary value of a human prostate is 😂
You're videos are so funny, love the innuendos, keep up the good work
Dawid is slowly starting to look like a homeless dude who hasn't been to the barber in years
you mean like a typical IT dude?
@@thesolver1970 hmm i shave regularly and cut my hair once a month and i can tell the difference between acer and hp
then again he is a clown and not an it guy
@@r3tr0c0e3but you also dont have a 4090 lying around
Glad to see good ad👏🏻good for u lexar,great memory
I'm betting 50 bucks that mainboard still works if you just tested it with a PC speaker and reset the BIOS as well. FIGHT ME.
Please like absolutely please 666K Dawid, exorcise Elma once and for all with a PC speaker i'm begging you!!
And PSU tester while you're at it, both of these things cost like 20 bucks total...
I appreciate you trying to make it feel natural putting in the lexar ram for the sponsor. Love your videos!
This is why I am sad that they stopped putting a PC speaker header on a lot of new motherboards.
Thanks for another vid Dawid! Can't wait for the VR plays!
"Prostate-shattering pile of crap" is going into my growing list of Dawidisms.
I've had one of those before - worst constipation ever.
@@Lurch-Bot The user name of Lurch somehow makes your post even more appropriate.
One thing I find that helps with troubleshooting, most motherboards still have a speaker header so keeping a supply of those little piezo electric beepers on hand to plug in really helps with this because they still have beep codes
if it was me doing the examination, I'd also reset the BIOS on a mobo before swapping it out. just because it's faster to take out the battery instead of unscrewing the entire thing.
First rule of dead pc. Check for cmos and bios issues. Don’t ask why I know this, 😂😂😂
@@seanmack1087 we've all been there.
Yep, remember checking everything and the fix was swapping dead bios battery. Apparently some mobo post and say that battery is dead, but some just refuse to start.
Could be the CPU mounting bracket. LGA 1700 is notorious for memory issues when not properly mounted. The official bracket design doesn't apply pressure evenly. That's why aftermarket brackets are so popular.
And, if still not working, it might have corrupted BIOS. You can either sell it cheap, or buy a SPI programmer.
NGL Vertical GPUs is a pretty good idea considering how heavy those mfs are, good on acer for doing that, but that front panel tho
Riser cable just introduces another failure point, well illustrated in this video. But if your average gamer understood the first thing about failure analysis, AIOs wouldn't exist. Meanwhile, you can buy a GPU support for $10 or just use some Legos to support it. My takeaway here is never buy a pre-built with a GPU riser cable. You wanna spend $50 on a good riser cable for a DIY build, that's your business. I'd rather spend it on more storage.
When aesthetics took over functionality a ton of issues with pcs started to happen
Based on the symptoms, step one is power supply because they in fact do not fail spectacularly very often like you said they do. Next is the ram, next is gpu (not the riser because they don't often just fail unless they have been moved a lot such as when kept messing with it) you could have just removed the riser cable from the PCI slot and power from the GPU and tested with the igpu. Next would be the NVMe drives because being PCIe devices they can cause no post on failure, cpu is last, and then finally mobo. I'd have pulled the mobo when I pulled the cpu and tried it with known good RAM and PSU on an antistatic mat with nothing else plugged in
I have a Cosmos Elite and suitable pc. But, I think the lenses might be short throw. I can't get a stable clear image without it being a skull vice.
Always glad to see a new video from you.
Forgive me, but did you try resetting the bios? I had a dell optiplex which used to lose its mind everytime there was an improper shutdown mostly due to power outage, I had to reset the bios for it to work again.
hey david , just put some aux speakers in rear aux port(green ) it may give you sound beeps like signal for different posting etc issues which you can google for what error it is according to brand
No keyboard detected. Press F1…. Always makes me laugh
Power supplies do not always “fail spectacularly”. I’ve had systems overheat and loosen solder on a PSU causing failure. The system would flash the lights for a split second when attempting to power on. LED lights “lighting up” definitely doesn’t mean the power supply is ok. It means nothing lol.
Sometimes a faulty nvme drive make the pc not boot. I was building a pc once and got a faulty crucial p2. Whenever I plugged it in it didnt make the PC boot , removing it would make the pc boot.
just a tips for troubleshooting
If the motherboard have a speaker/buzzer pin, you can grab one buzzer for dirt cheap (at max it's 1 or 2 usd, even less actually, it's 5k idr on here(~0.5usd)) and try plug one into that pin
it should beeps with some pattern, and then you can lookup on the motherboard brand for beep codes (for example "Asus (Motherboard Model) Beep Codes"
easier than disassembling all of the part and swapping one by one tbh 😁
Isn't Predator an Acer brand, not HP?
He is drunk.
Hey Dawid, great video as always. Love your style. BTW, what is the benchmark overlay software you use for game testing? I can't seem to find a link in your videos, and i haven't heard you name it before.
666k subscribers. This channel needs an exorcism.
isnt dawid jewish? if so i think he would find that number to be beautiful
@@polarvortex6601 I'm not sure. At the risk of stereotyping most jewish people I know are very intelligent :)
@@doobybrother21 i didnt say that they were stupid. i just said that the number 6 is pretty special for them. if you have peeked in to the kabbalah and zohar and even talmud you will know that was i just said above its true :)
666 is a number of a man and has nothing to do with whatever you think it is
Did you get new cameras, cause damn that looks good.
15:36 but you did say you bought it a long time ago so maybe that can be chalked up to the dark ages of GPU pricing when a 3070 was worth $700ish by itself, which brings me to the end of this comment, until the next time thank you for reading, bye bye!
Looking forward to your VR experience. I've done it twice, this year and also in 1991. Quite the difference!
"Thank Gaben that worked" is what I say everytime I need to come up with an excuse to open cases in cs
I just recently replaced my Gigabyte Aorus X570 Master and Ryzen 5900x when it would POST but wouldn't boot any OS. After trying to troubleshoot it for a few days, I came to the conclusion that it had to be the motherboard. Not wanting to spend the money to replace the X570 Master, I just went and upgraded to a 7900X and AM5 motherboard. The new system ran fine for just over a week and then would not post halting with a CPU diagnostic LED lit. One power supply replacement later and the new hardware is working fine. I haven't had a chance to test the Aorus and 5900x yet but I'm pretty sure that the power supply was the entire problem.
You really need a post card and power supply tester
Do post cards work in modern PC's? I was just thinking of how handy that would be, but something in my mind is saying they don't work with modern PC's for some reason...
Am I right or wrong?
@@volvo09 I believe there are PCIe pluggable ones nowadays, but it's usually just easier to get small PC speaker lol
The pcie cards work well and you can see the voltage the rails are putting out
@@CarbonPanther thanks, I have idea why I was thinking that then.
Great video as always! I also said “I bet it’s the riser cable” right off the hop, so we were both at least partially right lol.
As a huge VR nerd, I’m very much looking forward to your next video! OptimumTech did one recently where he used it for his racing sim… perhaps you’ll be breaking yours out again? 🤔
When i start working on a pc that isnt working i first wipe the cmos. That often helps. Did you try this?
I would have tried that too, just yank the battery and try again in a bit.
he was drunk while troubleshooting this. Basically he just did not want to diagnose the motherboard coz he could just replace it.
I love that case man,The tubes with the front fans kick ass.Sell it?
can't believe he didn't reset the bios, im 8 minutes in and he's replacing everything lol
Fun vid. I'm always down to watch Dawid struggle with tech
For the price you paid for that PC, seems like it was the one that shattered your prostate along with your wallet.
Have you tried replacing the CMOS battery on that board? I’ve revived a few seemingly dead motherboards by replacing the battery. It may not always work, but it’s worth a shot.
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Thanks for sharing I missed not seeing a video from you in awhile you make me laugh
Serious question: why is step 2 not connecting a mobo speaker for post error code beeps?
Just posted the same comment. Was wondering the same thing.
he was drunk while making this video.
I'd be interested in more testing of the supposed dead pc part on it's own outside the case a bit more, even if you just mention testing it again. Curious if resetting the bios would have any effect.
-that being said, I have only had one mobo die on me out of the blue and it behaved similarly, and only gave me ram and cpu error codes.
you forgot to reset the bios it could have overclocked wrong or have a bad bios update.
exactly
Nice one, really like the videos. You got a great sence of humour too. You should do stand up. All the best
Acer loser desktop's disappointed at being called an HP at 10:42.
and 11:08
Last week I troubleshot a pc I built and tested for my niece before shipping it to her. I set it up and repeatedly got power and no post. No mobs codes. I tried a different monitor, hdmi cable, and finally just pulled everything out minus the cpu and reset it along with a 4th check on all the cables. And reseating everything worked. I don’t know why or what was misaligned, but I was so happy it worked and my niece can game now as she didn’t have a pc before. Sometime tech just does that.
Also once built 2 identical new pcs and only thru that did I find out one of my ram sticks was doa. Caused either pc it was in to not post. I have only built 4 pcs total now and 3 have had magic problems, but it was still fun to build. And I would do it again. Makes me want to try this buying a parts only but I have no use for more pcs.
Always hilarious yet informative. Also congratulations on the Number of The Beast subscribers Dawid!
Generally speaking, if a PC starts up when you plug the PSU into the mains, there's a problem with the motherboard. A properly working motherboard will not boot the system unless it detects a power-on signal. Plugging it in is not a power-on signal.
I watch this, and I wonder, why put everything back into the case to begin testing with the new board?
Thanks for the cool vid man... Here's my unsolicited 10c :) You should still always first connect another psu before removing mbd as its a quick test. I've had many pc's starting up without posting with faulty psu's... So... If CPU has onchip graphics, remove Gaming Graphics card, Swap Mem, Swap PSU, then .... I've had a Case that created a short, causing it to just not start - rebuild the pc on the mdb box :) Have a good one
I almost forgot to mention: first, unplug the power cable, then press the power switch to discharge the capacitors. Next, pull the mbd battery and short the two battery poles with something metallic. I've actually seen motherboards fire right up after it probably swallowed a BIOS bug. Just don’t do it while the board’s powered, or you can kiss it goodbye. Oh, and if you’re reading this, maybe make a video messing around with the mbd you took out-see if it’ll come back to life. Could be interesting content if you’ve got other spares you’re not too sure about. My pleasure! :)
Good lucky with the VR! Unfortunately, it can be really complicated to get VR to work optimally, but if you're testing a popular title like Half Life Alyx, it should work right away. It's absolutely wonderful to play in VR after you got your "VR legs", but start with something simple like Beat Saber and maybe use teleportation in Half Life Alyx, otherwise you probably gonna feel nauseous your first time.
I'd love to see a Tech break down of the dead Motherboard to see exactly what is wrong with it. Did it not even have LEDs for boot progress?
Fyi, in the past PCs would "beep" errors. So the front panel header should have an option to connect a buzzer and it will beep a code that will be referable via the manual.
But watching you diagnose, is way more fun :).
The riser cable is probably fine. Most riser cables are PCIe gen 3 and that motherboard uses PCIe gen 4. Doesn't seem like that should be an issue... But the standards are different and if you do not go into bios and tell the system specifically to use gen 3 mode, it can cause symptoms similar to that of a dead GPU. I had the same thing happen when i upgraded my system from am4 to am5 and kept my RTX 3070.
I found the exact listing you posted. Sold for the exact same price as you paid for it.
It states that the motherboard does not boot. You knew exactly what you bought.
The ice tunnel reminds me of old school dell where they had all sorts of shrouds and plastic junk for the fans and drives😂
Liked & subbed man absolutely love your humor and the way your do your videos. Please add more explosions? :D
Merry Xmas!
It's amazing that a dead motherboard can still send power through the computer. In my experience, it often doesn't work at all. It's totally dead. When the RAM was broken, my Computers always got stuck on the post screen. Dead CPU nothing, dead PSU nothing at all.
First minute in and Dawid drives me nuts! :D Why didnt you test the computer with the iGPU directly?
I think that case looks pretty dope! The vertical GPU is a good idea too
Before anyone does all this disassembly, you should try a bios clear first. Judging by the gpu placement on this system, you would have to remove that to get to the cmos clear and battery anyway. CMS and uefi, and Windows secure boot can all cause non boot, the latter I have recently dealt with!😅
You should keep a motherboard beep speaker on hand, most mbs have the pins for it and the beep codes can tell you a lot.
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Probably the first thing I'd do is get it right down to a motherboard and power supply, and try to get it to beep, then you can start adding memory and video. I don't recall but you might be able to even get a board to beep without a CPU... Starting with the least amount of computer possible takes out a lot of things that could be wrong like all those SSDs.
I love your videos. Thanks for the content 👍
That lexar ad was sick. Like a John woo and. Linus Tech tips sponsor ad all in one.
looks like it's definitely from the berlin major in 2022. One of their sponsors was Acer Predator which is actually really cool :)
If the system doesn't have a display of the POST codes connect a system speaker. I'm talking about the beeping kind hated by so many that a lot of people doesn't even know what is it. During POST a failure will be reported with a beep code. A successful POST is signaled by a single beep. Now check the beep code against the BIOS manufacturers signal table and it will tell you where the POST halted. Even if you don't bother to check the beep code table you at least get a signal. Change memory, graphics card or what ever and test again and see if the signal changes.
What in all that is holy was the 2nd NVMe doing just chilling off the side of the motherboard?
And then the WiFi card was sat all alone when the I/O area had a ton of space.
Are the engineers over at Acer really that bad?
Free tip: Most of these boards still have speaker outputs for the POST codes. You can just plug a little mini speaker in and get them that way.
Finished video... wouldn't have helped. Oh well!
Very noble of you to use and give a shout out to Linus’s scree driver.
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The extreme sarcasm in these videos is what got me addicted to dawid's videos
Just a thought, I once had a motherboard die on me, so I started troubleshooting it and, to make the story short, everything checked out, it started, lights, but nothing after that (just like what you show on the video). After ages looking for the problem, it turned out to be that the bios tried to auto-update and failed, which corrupted the posting process of the MB. Fortunately the MB had a way of updating the bios from a USB by following the manufacturers procedure, and it started working again. Then I promptly disabled the auto-update feature and now I'm very picky about letting firmware auto-update.