Things I learned during my Internal Monologue research!
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2023
- Just a recap of some things that I learned during my research. Thank you for all of the support over the years! (even though some of you are quite mean!)
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4 years later and still learning? Good job! You're awesome dude.
You didn't seem to belittle your friend! I though you kept it light and you were genuinely amazed. If you'd been 'clinical' with a friend that would have probably made her feel uncomfortable.
Same
I thought you did great with her. It was obvious that there’s a nice, solid friendship between you two.
I’m just learning about this today and my mind is blown. I didn’t know people didn’t have an internal monologue
I always thought the "voices in your head" was just a massive joke everyone followed, sort of how we all collectively lie to children and tell them Santa is real.
What do you mean by inner monologue, like "I'm hungry, what should I eat?" or something else?
@@Acujeremyyeah pretty much that. if you can talk to yourself in your head while you’re in a room full of ppl then yeah u got it
Although I don’t see many uploads by you, they have brought me such joy. I’m in my 40s and it’s SO RARE to see someone so genuinely curious about something. Watching your journey with this has triggered my curiosity; especially when the eating disorders came into play. I spent 2 weeks in a mental hospital as a teen. I met a preteen there who had anorexia. She was pure joy and so social and kind, and she died in those two weeks. The pain it brought me was so immense I never will forget that precious kid. Although I never forgot her, she has made me less curious. Reading the title about inner dialogs and bulimia, reached in and pulled some long forgotten drive for curiosity, back out of my long dead brain cells hahah. Thank you.
I'm also not as blown away by this as I was in the beginning, as I've observed myself having all five kinds of thoughts, though I had previously believed only inner monologuing was thinking. I think I have the most fun thinking visually.
What I'm more interested in now is deep thinking as opposed to superficial thinking. That one still baffles me. I genuinely do not understand how anyone can be introspective or self-reflective without using language. I do most of it with my inner monologue, but even I still need to sometimes journal and write my thoughts down. It amazes me that someone can engage in deep introspection using only unsymbolized thinking, visuals, feelings, or senses...For me all of those are just the starting point. I need language to probe further and explore why I'm feeling a certain way or why I'm having a gut reaction to something, and then further analyze that reason and question whether or not it's true... Fascinating stuff.
Okay, I came across your videos awhile back, and I was blown away that some people do not have an internal monologue. I truly thought at first that this was a joke. It is hard to comprehend that this is possible when I have an inner monologue. Thank you for enlightening and educating all of us. BTW, my reactions when you were asking someone else questions were a mirror image of your reactions. I am still mind blown. Totally mind blown by this. Thank you again for doing this!
I think it's important to say to people who don't have an internal monologue that when I say there's an inner voice I don't "hear" it with my ears or even imagine that I hear it with my ears. It's sentences formed in my mind. An example would be "I need to go grocery shopping tomorrow." I also can visualize things -- for example, something I want to make. I have to be careful to not do that when I'm driving, because I might see whatever it is in my imagination rather than see the highway and vehicles.
I have been studying/practicing non-duality -- and am fascinated by thoughts and thinking as a part of that. Buddhists, non-dualists -- they talk about our "monkey-mind" - chattering away, and practice so that the thoughts drop away and truth is revealed. What you mentioned about non-symbolic thinking really caught my attention. I call that "knowing" and I also call it quantum thinking - it is like the knowing simply arises (from where?) and you are certain of it. I plan on watching more of your videos as I love the intersection of scientific practice and what we tend to label as "spirituality". Thanks for your work.
When I saw your video a few years ago I reposted it on Facebook and got crazy responses, both sides didn't know either existed.
But, unsymbolized thinking, would that be sorta like if you pick up an orange and smell it, you don't have a thought or speak to yourself - "this is an orange" you just have the idea in your brain that it's an orange? You immediately know if it's rotten, ripe, or unripe - and again, you don't say the words in your head, you just know it. If someone asks you what you have, then you translate your idea into verbal, "I have an orange that is rotten." So your senses of smell (I can smell the orange is bad), touch (the orange is mushy), sight (I can see a moldy spot on the orange), etc. are actually the unsymbolized thinking that translates to your brain and gives you the words to speak.
Awesome opportunity that you were able to partake in a study for something you were so interested in!
In the original interview I was surprised how many of the answers were seemingly normal, especially on sentences, reading and writing, just with the monologue removed. These were seemingly typical answers for a fast reader and certain writers. I'm sure there's nuance when you get deeper into it, and yet there were other clear differences too.
With such a seemingly innocuous mental abnormality and answers, and one that was known many years prior, I feel it's clear why people were confused at your reaction. After all the world contains people with abnormalities in every part of their body and mental mind much more severe than this. It seemed to me like your reaction was more that of intrigue though, and it's just great to see you've indeed found so much interest in the subject and got the opportunity to delve more into it!
I'm somewhere in between. I do have negative thoughts, and I can think through problems using one of 4 languages that I know, and I sometimes think about what other people may be thinking about me. All of that is with words. I'm also a programmer so I can think how to solve a problem in computer languages - so concepts more than words and sentences. The in-between comes from me usually not thinking individual words, but rather concepts or historical periods or philosophical ideas and how they affect each other. I can also speak the 3 acquired languages without first thinking what to say in my native language. I've spoken to some people who find that hard to reconcile. I use writing to organize my thoughts, but not extensively or regularly.
Let me tell you how I'm thinking right now about how to end this, without asking myself "what can i say here", "how can i end this". I just park the talking part of my brain for a while and let it run while imagining emotions my listener has or that I'd like to evoke in them. When I'm done imagining feelings or when I don't know what else would impress the listener, I can just wait. While waiting something relevant may come up, that I can chose to put into words.
It took me about 5-12 seconds to sense and feel the paragraph above, but it took me nearly three minutes to put it into words. YMMV!
One of my all-time favorite fantasy/science fiction writers is Piers Anthony. In the first volume of his "Incarnations of Immortality" series titled "On a Pale Horse" he discusses different forms, or methods, of thinking. He describes different thought patterns, not specifically types of thought, as if they were a series of matchsticks. He describes how people can come to conclusions using these various methods, or patterns, and I think that they align with the different thought types that you describe.
I do have an internal dialogue. Sometimes it can be downright distracting and it requires some significant effort to "quiet" the voice in my head. To that end I have practiced meditation, self medication and distraction techniques. These work to varying levels of success.
The one thing that led me to a deeper self realization of the distraction that I was creating in myself for most of my life was undergoing neuro-feedback therapy. Since I went through that therapy I have been much more conscious of the times when I am creating a feedback loop within my mind with distracting or non-helpful thoughts. These non-helpful thoughts are generally of the inner monologue type. Sometimes, however, images and feelings can be just as intrusive and distracting.
I would never want to give up my inner dialogue but I could see how not having one could actually be beneficial in some situations.
Thank you so much for these videos--really interesting topic.
Very cool! I never knew I needed a term for it, but "unsymbolized thought" is going right into my working vocabulary. Thanks!
So in movies + tv shows when there's a voice over playing in the background without the character moving their lips the people who don't have inner monologue what did they think was happening when that happens or when in a sci fi there's someone who can hear thoughts as a superpower what did they think was happening?
I'm interested in this too!
I saw some tweets or tumblr posts or something saying they assumed this was just a commonly accepted literary device.
This is the exact answer! I thought that it was just a literary device used to clue the reader/audience in on what the character is thinking@@TheWynterknight
Or Anya ability to hear thoughs from Spy X Family
This is how a friend of mine found out they were different. They thought their wife might be crazy because she was talking to herself in her head like the character in the show “You” they had to call me and my wife to see if we had inner monologue or not. He was the only one of the 4 of us that did not have an inner monologue.
I loved your first video and I love this one too! I find this topic so cool
This was cool to watch. I dont have an internal monologue myself.
The best way I can describe the landscape of my mind is generally Im in observing mode.
I can indeed speak in my head but it is generally an intentional thing.
An example would be if Im in a noisy environment and having a very difficult time focusing on something Im reading, I will read it "out loud" at high volume in my head to drown out distractions .
I grew up bilingual.
I meditate and I think it helps keep my inner landscape quiter than if i didnt.
Most of my thoughts are what I always called "conceptual". It may be the same as this "unsymbolised". Essentially just being aware of things as they arise and as info is needed its just there.
so glad i came across your info ~ i'll be looking into it more & think it will help me communicate & be more productive
Dude you're still on it! How cool!
I haven’t seen to much on this but I saw a bit of the video from 3 years ago but with my internal monologue I can have conversations with my self & anyone I know or met & each person inside my head has their actual voice. So I can have a hypothetical conversation with my father inside my head & his voice is his voice & my voice is my voice inside my head. And yes I am constantly talking to myself.
I can do this but all voices are same, i dont hear any but just know who speaks when...if that makes sense. I have multisensory Aphantasia
I started reading untethered soul and now I won’t stop researching about inner monologue. I’ve come across your page and you’ve inspired me to create a survey. Brb
Honestly when I saw your video 3 years ago when I tell you it physically made me unwell knowing that people don’t have an inner monologue 🤣 it’s stuck with me! 🥊
Your reaction was valid. To me this undermining how I see sentience and intelligence. I think this have huge implications on mental health and a new way to view the world.
Very interesting. I'll check out your other videos.
Very nice update.
You touched on a thing here which definitely struck me while watching your first interview on the topic:
Surely this is just not "you either do it or you don't". It blows the mind of people because they define it one way and their target defines it in a different way.
It is a wild and crazy spectrum for sure and someone has to be close to either end but most people are in the hazy in-between.
People like you who spend a lot of time studying and writing about this stuff has a different ability and vocabulary to articulate it. It's very interesting to others because you put it into words.
I know that I would struggle to describe my thinking abilities and your friend in the interview might also!
Interesting videos thanks for sharing
I gave you the 1K like here, just my 2 cents for a great research Topic. Keep going!
I have an internal monologue and adhd. I often zone out and just go into my thoughts it’s like i can technically still see the world but it’s like greyed out in a way, not in focus i guess. I never realize the real world until i come back. In these periods of zoning out i think using words in my brain and also visually. Thought bubbles paired with words in a way
Same for me I got adhd and an internal dialogue that won’t stop. And my wife wants me to get meds cause when I start taking to people I can’t shut up.
I am reminded of that old show "Married with Children", Peg asks Al "Aaal, what are you thinking?", and Al answers "If I wanted you to know, id'a been talkin'"
I was so confused by unsymbolized thinking when I started noticing it a few years ago - it's awesome this has a name
This is all pretty fascinating stuff. When I first heard that people "don't have an inner monologue," I was pretty shocked and confused too. But, as I thought about it, I realized that I don't necessarily have a constant narrator in my head either. It's definitely there - I don't have the thing where I have to physically speak a thought if I want to put it into words (I'm a little skeptical if that is even a real thing). But it's not constant running commentary in the way that someone is narrating an audiobook or something. Sometimes I have images, or little "movies," Sometimes I just intuit things (I guess that's unsymbolized thinking?). As it relates to reading, I'd imagine that probably relates mostly to how one learned to read as a child. Some people were taught to "sound out" words one by one in a sentence, and some people skipped all that entirely.
Yeah what are these people talking about having some narrator in their mind?
My internal monologue sounds like Master Shake and won't shut up about committing class c felonies.
I found this video. Am amazed. I thought everybody had an internal dialog!
I know someone who thinks in speech bubbles. That's so cool and it really makes you think about how other people think
I feel like my thought types are all the ones you listed except for unsymbolized thinking, except I feel like I have that too unconsciously. I have monologue, I can taste, visualize, physical feelings, and also like auditory where for example I can think about a song so hard that I will actually believe I’m hearing it with my ears.
I feel like there should be a movie from the perspective of someone without an internal monologue and like showcasing their thoughts and stuff
There are movies rhough
Man, this is interesting! This makes me think of the "nothing box" that many say that men have. I sure have that. Often I find my self thinking nothing - it's just blank. I'm relaxed, just beeing, and the thoughts are ... swithched off, somehow. I wonder how common that is, and if it's a good or bad thing. Thinking about it, it makes me feel kinda stupid, but I know I'm not. I'm highly educated. It also feels like it is something very good for for my mental health. Constantly thinking would stress me out.
@@user-xp3jf9sf6s I wonder if being able to turn it off is more common in men than it is in women. Even hearing a TV going in background while I'm trying to sleep is impossible because my mind is repeating everything I hear...
I'm so glad I found your video, especially this update. To finally have a name for the way I often have thoughts materialize in my mind/body "unsymbolized" OMG thank you. I'm going to go down a rabbit hole.
Hmmm rabbit hole is rabbiting, I'm not sure if this is actually what I'm looking for to describe some of my internalization. I do however have an inner monologue, just to be clear lol. I have many ways of expressing and thinking/feeling. Why am I saying any of this is a very big thought I'm having right now.
Really curious to hear more about people who think they do have an inner monologue actually not having one, and vice versa. Did you do a video expanding on that?
This!
I speak native spanish. When I'm listening to your voice, I usually I'm repeating what you are saying in my head so I can then translate (almost instant). The same as I'm writing this comment.
That's cool that you got Kevin Soacey to play the doctor
In my head I was thinking she was gonna be like a literal air head bc of the no internal monologue but I think the video acc made her sound very smart
i hope we’ll be able to link this with neurobiology one day
I know some people don't realize that they do have an internal monolog and, in fact, think it's someone else. talking to them.
I have all of those thinking patterns
I always thought people hearing voices in their heads was a metaphor bc I never had such a thing, all I know is when there’s a task such as cleaning, I know it needs done and complete it. My gf however I’ve have noticed she has pauses in between like there’s micro tasks she has to do first or she can’t get the main task completed or inner thoughts in between like and constant distraction
I thought i could see distress in your face and to be honest i felt the same. From someone who's mind is their biggest demon its frustrating to see such surface level thinking.
I would be interested to know how not having an internal monoloque affects ability to think symbolically and metaphorically.
Hey, what about moving my mouth(Like moving jaws and tongue) even if it closed? is it still an internal monologue or am I crazy?
I have an internal dialogue, and I cannot imagine how anyone would not. However, I recently discovered that I have aphantasia. I was shocked to find that people actually see things in their mind. This is all so interesting!
Correction: Internal Monologue not Dialogue
Yes! I have an internal dialogue too and I can't visualize things. I remember when I was younger doing visualizations in classes or something. They would ask people to describe things they were seeing and I thought they were making it up because I wasn't seeing anything. After listening to her describe how she thinks, I was wondering if those things are connected.
@@SamShank175 agreed!!
You should look into multisensory aphantasia. Not having an inner monolog falls under that umbrella, though aphantasia is the lack of ability to see any images in your minds eye there are people like me where that inability extend to pretty much all other senses or "ways of thinking"
So my interest is very piqued after finding your videos.
I'm very curious to know if you also have aphantasia.
Age 16 I had a serious brain injury. It changed many things, including a slow, now 21 year decline in my ability to use my "minds eye" or in other words: to visualize objects or people in my head on command. Over the years it has diminished, yet my inner monologue never seems to shut up these days. Bit of a dichotomy, really.
Very curious to hear your thoughts on this which is why I commented on one of your Vids that isn't 3 years old.
Thank you for sharing either way.
Edit: I thought about how short and lacking details I had left this comment and felt it warranted some clarity. (Yes it took about 3 minutes)
So to add to the problem of my inner monologue being so ubiquitous:
It not only takes more effort these days to visualize my thoughts when needed, but to relate to your situation of not being able to think something without saying it, I often have the issue of feeling more effective/comfortable airing my thoughts vocally than internally. That's not to say that I cannot internally monologue, but that it's actually easier to just talk to myself. Sounds weird, but this is a big reason I wanted to understand what you're going through to a better degree. I might end up there one day myself.
You said that 17 percent didn't have inner speech. Im wondering if there is a difference between the two groups as far as is one group wealthier than the other, does one group have better family experiences, has one group done drugs and the other hasn't? What is if any the difference on the outside of these two groups? Thanks for the video pretty cool.
damn i finally have a word for my kind of thinking! im primarly using un-symbolized thinking like 95% of the time.
I’m floating this out into the atmosphere: unsymnolized thinking is introverted intuition as described by Carl Jung in his work, “Psychological Types.”
Individuals who think in an unsymbolized fashion are individuals who prefer to utilize introverted intuition as their dominant perceiving function.
The reason individuals who experience unsymbolized thinking may also experience aphantasia, a lack of an inner monologue, and Severe Deficits in Autobiographical Memory (SDAM) is because in order to utilize introverted intuition as a dominant perceiving process, the utilization of introverted sensing is the weakest (or least preferred) perceiving function. Introverted sensing allows us to re-experience our sensory experiences in highly refined detail. The introverted intuitive (or individual who predominantly thinks in an unsymbolized fashion) is not actually paying attention to the sensory details of the immediate sensory environment (the reality outside of one’s self) but the impressions these sensory details leave as we passively take in the external environment subconsciously.
This is why we cannot remember our sensory experiences very well - because we were not paying attention to them in the first place.
Hahaha “..even though some of you are quite mean.” 👌🏽😂✌🏽
When I think about movies or interviews I hear the actual voice of the actors or commentators. If the people without an inner monologue can’t hear their own voices I’d assume they can’t hear the voices from others they’ve watched or listened too either. That blows my mind
In some forms of meditation they tell you to concentrate on your breath. In transcendental meditation they tell you to concentrate on a mantra, a word. I guess these people couldn't do that type? Maybe you could ask one.
do you guys distinguish controlled thoughts vs ones that arent created deliberately? it hasnt seemed so
how do you count time without an inner monologue? if i have no watch available and i have to count seconds, i usually go "one thousand eleven, one thousand twelve, ...". How do you do this without the actual words in your head? The time it takes you to say "one thousand eleven" is after all roughly one second. But if you dont say it in your head, you cant count it, right?
I don't see how someone could not have their mind blown by this information. Yes there are different kinds of thinking, but for certain people to entirely lack a specific type of thinking is extremely odd. Inner dialogue is almost always involuntary.
So people w no internal monologue never have a song stuck in their head?
Man took "Find a Niche" too seriously.
for baseline reasons, I would have liked to know those who don't have an internal monolog can visualize things in their brain and 2 if they visualize in their brain in color or black and white
Wow, *17%* have no internal monologue?! Now *that* blew my mind!
I perceive unsymbolized thinking as a thought processed so fats that skips any form of concept formation, like it's unconscious or almost unconscious.
this is an absolutely insane confluence in the algorithim but i not only don't have an internal monologue, but i'm "selectively" [ie, lifelong phasally] MUTE. and only just now 'got access' recently to the full capacity for language after having untreated cerebral palsy+dystonia for my entire life. i have a few videos recently on this channel documenting it for my very small online presence, but have been keeping a 'living archive' going for the past year or so about the entire process-IRL i'm an ex-academic in philosophy+cognitive sciences.
would you be interested in speaking/emailing further?
not sure if you'll see this notification--i definitely have run out of bandwidth for language for the day. but, i just made a couple posts on my channel that may interest you; there are some videos being uploaded 'in time' as well that could be very valuable to your research. i've been able to get in touch with a few other past colleagues the past day or so and i'm just absolutely chuffed to find ways to try and make my experience 'useful'. (":
How can something think they have an internal monologue but not??
So If you can think in all those ways , is that divergent?
I didn’t think you were rude to your friend at all.
I thought how you kept joking/not joking about not being able to function was so relatable.
I found it funny and sad.
I'm high functioning autistic approaching 60 and thought I'd share a few things.
Your videos are great. The internal monologue I can see you have downgraded from a binary to just a differences thing. I see the human brain as like billions of networked people. Various groups are specialised for different subjects like speech, emotions, visual, social, logic, survival etc. Everyone has an internal monologue or conversation i.e. those waves that are seen washing back and forth on a brain scan, but for different people that flow is biassed between different areas.
Being typically autistic, emotional and social language rarely occurs in my otherwise normal visual and verbal internal monologue, but in my 30s I began to notice another hidden player in my understanding of the world - gut instinct. It was a weird one as it definitely predicted events, like turmoil at work and yet was not consciously recognised until it happened e.g. company downsizing. I'm guessing the social part of my brain was picking up on something but it didn't have a direct route to "an actionable" internal monologue.
Now for the interesting bit, some autism is related to early or even genetic trauma. What I believe is going on here is the lone wolf circuit being switched on. Why bother focusing on social or emotional needs when you don't have to fit into a community ? You could say the same thing for the offspring of a voyager who need that extra focus and survival vigilance rather than a depth of emotional knowledge.
Another evolutionary adaptation I can see is the 10% of gender flexible people, almost as if genetics has an inbuilt plan for additional carers or warriors should the need arise. It wouldn't surprise me if the internal monologue of gay people has a bias toward social / emotional thinking.
I think the main issue for me is if you cannot talk through things in your head, how do you problem solve? How do they work out what's true or not? Do they just believe what they're told from "trusted" sources?
Pretty sure you were just shocked by her answers, because I had mirrored reactions to you 😂😂
Hey i live in syracuse too! How odd
Hi! I'm a Psychology student doing a thesis related to inner monologue and other forms of inner experience. Do you know any forums or groups where I could try and recruit participants who might be interested in this sort of thing?
I don’t but if you need questions answered I can help you
@@Rlangdon7 thanks! Your channel was a super fun resource to explore when I was getting started, you've already helped :)
👉 SIR PLEASE HELP ME 👈 is internal talk gadjeds (inner monogolu or inner mind talk)are real or not in my surroundings (nigbours) talk as it is when i talk in my mind please help me sir is inner talk gadjeds are real or not
I don't think in words. I can think in words, but I don't feel convinced by that thinking. I have to think things through in abstract, vestibular meditation. I've started articulating this, and investigating this. I can't tell you how many things have gone wrong in my life because my non-verbal thinking has been treated as not legitimate. Because I didn't have the processing time I needed, I was rushed into articulating things prematurely, and told my emotions were not valid. The consequences of people assuming that verbal thinking is the only thinking is pretty horrific. I feel like it is the basis of gaslighting. This is a wonderful, wonderful video. Basically every other video or blog post I've seen on the topic is by someone who is outraged by people claiming to be special, or implying that those of us without internal monologue are somehow imbeciles. We all have so many ways of thinking. We limit ourselves when we assume a singular way of thinking is real. I so appreciate your straightforward, cogent, and very honest discussion. How cool to be part of research like that. We are all unique, for sure! Thank you for this.
lol, have a little faith in yourself, buddy. If you're dumb, you won't know it ;) think about that... and even if you are, there is plenty of stuff people can appreciate you for. everyone does not have to be super smart to succeed. though if you're dumb and asocial, you may want to flip some things around.
Why my internal monologues are loud enough to hear by others who surrounded me during stress situation.is it possible?pls reply me sir
Honestly, if people feel so intimidated, offended, etc by your interview with your subject /friend? It just says more about what's going with them, then it ever does you. Overly sensitive humans? Internet is full of them. You can't learn about 💩 if you don't ask the questions. I rather enjoyed that interview. As an empath, I never once felt like she was feeling attacked. And believe me... I feel entirely too much. It's exhausting actually. You did a wonderful job in that interview. Great upload... Look forward to more.
Sudbury, Ontario, Canada 🇨🇦✌️
Watched your interview with your friend and you were not belittling her. It was obvious to me you were struggling to ask her the questions because, to you, they made no sense. Don't let the hate stick. You're offering an incredible insight to the world.
Where's the love for the Aphantasia crowd?
What do people without an inner dialogue when the rest of us lower our heads in silent prayer, do they just sit there and wait quietly with nothing to do ? o_O
Wouldn't unsymbolized thoughts be intuition ive had moments where complete thought just form with no words sense or symbol and i just act with said gained knowledge or intuition
A fact that might have been glosses over is that everyone is still engaging their vocal cords when they have their internal dialogue. Similar to how Kirsten, or how children in early education, still move their lips when they read. And when it comes to writing, trying out sentences in silence in your head before writing them down is just an intermediary step from unsymbolized thought to words on a page. And that step isn't actually as conductive of the writing process as the way Kirsten tackles writing a paper. Which might be the way how everyone should do it. Think of your outline, follow a structure, and just put the words on paper without hesitation. You don't want to listen to that voice in your head. Just write, rearrange sentences, move words around, and rewrite.
We should be careful about framing something most of us do as "normal." When you'd actually observe us from a more neutral standpoint, our internal monologue is overdeveloped and turned into a batshit insane habit. We wouldn't haven gotten away with that habit of constantly talking to ourselves, if we hadn't learn to repress the motions that make our thoughts audible. And we especially wouldn't have learned to talk negatively about ourselves if we, or the people around us, could hear the shit we tell ourselves out loud. And even when we conduct a healthy and therapeutic internal monologue like affirmations or reciting mantras, the process is more effective when we actually bother to say it out loud. The irony of us self-talkers is, if we catch someone talking to themselves out loud, positive affirmations or not, we reflectively think that person might be losing their mind.
We're addicts. One internal thought leads to a million others. And when someone tells us they can just put a verb after a noun, and then stop drinking from the cup of insanity once they've finished speaking; we look at them like they are from another planet, like addicts do.
how old are you? i lost my internal monologue (inner voice) visions , and emotions at 27 years old, after a hardcore depersonalization derealization disorder. perhaps people lose it by age? could it be? or is an acquired aphantasia an abnormal phenomenon
If our brain is connecting to an external mind the lang-guage can override the non verbal thought? They must've thought as babies
So, not a duality, not even a spectrum, something that is very, very difficult to quantify. Perhaps a trajectory on a 10-dimensional Calabi-Yau manifold?
OMG! I had no idea! They're immune from the aliens telepathy! HOLY CRAP! Hire them all for the Space Force! Yes, they are human, but also immune!
so not everyone sings in their head?
I wonder whether people without inner speech had imaginary friends in their childhood. Did they hear a lot of conversations around them? Interesting if it's something aquired or inherited...
It's an unconstrained human without all the parts or missing parts it's a problem that thinks it's real 😮 !
okay so when i say Internal Monologue i mean i talk with it the same way i talk normally . when it comes to thoughts i see them objects , rooms, people . when i talk to people in my mind if i want to i can see them and my self talk let's say in a room , i can see this , but i talk for both of us . i mean i am saying words for both sides at will
If I was doing this research I,d end up in a padded cell....did I see somewhere some people see maths as colour...this is a bottomless pit...
Now go research Aphantasia. :P
The internal monologue is actually the soul ! without it I think you know what that means 😢 just programing !
Why do you think the inner voice is the soul? That would btw mean that every deaf-and-dumb person was also without soul - just because an inner voice is missing - like wtf?
that‘s so rude! I noticed that people with inner voice are far more judgy than people without inner monologue. According to what I read it‘s because the inner voice says these negative things about the other people. I‘m glad I don‘t have this inner voice. 🙏
ask a bi lingual person. is your inner monolog spanish or english?? its all just thought. next question.
If I study Language I don't really know it until I start thinking it.
@@LampWaters thinking is thought.
As a bi lingual. It dependes on what language you speak more often and who are you speaking to in your head. For example, if you are speaking to your korean mom or thinking about her thoughts are in korean. But if you are thinking about your chinese husband the thoughts are in chinese. It is not just a thought. It is very spicific words.
As a person who is capable of internal monologue but doesn't use it often or actively, international monologue, as people mostly describe, is weird. Like you are commenting about the situation after the fact, or you take an extra step of describing the situation instead of just straight up doing it or participating in it. Like a narrator commenting on your own life. That seems like an extra effort also weird.
They are NPC's, because they don't have that extra layer of self awareness perhaps...i dont know
They are like chat gpt i guess. It always says that it has no iternal thoughts. What its writing IS what it's thinking. So AI like chat gpt is probably based somewhat on people with no monologue type of thinking.
You say we are NPCs just because we don’t have an inner voice? So every deaf-and-dumb person is also an NPC?
that‘s so rude and ignorant!
Just because you can‘t imagine thinking and feeling without the concept of words, doesn‘t mean other forms are worse or less human…
I noticed that people with inner voice are far more judgy than people without inner monologue. According to what I read it‘s because the inner voice says these negative things about the other people. I‘m glad I don‘t have this inner voice. 🙏
soleless vessels
that‘s so rude! I noticed that people with inner voice are far more judgy than people without inner monologue. According to what I read it‘s because the inner voice says these negative things about the other people. I‘m glad I don‘t have this inner voice. 🙏
3:20 complete nonsense. That's not how we should see it if you want to explain it and instigate it to occur (and it will become mandatory.. it should already have been...)
Sadly researchers conflated certain words and created too much crap that didn't affiliate with the right themes... then Rainbows and shit happened and everyone got confused. If you Do not Know. You Do Not create these structures.............. It's called basic filters of science:::: attempt to disprove yourself, first... then ask yourself Why tf you're doing it etc ad vitam aeternam.