Using injector on Fillmore valve
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- So a tip given to me in the community chat got me to this place. Watch the video and you will see how the syringe essentially became a funnel. Funny....eh?
NOTE: For those of you who keep thinking there is a core to remove, there isn't. Look up the Reserve Wheels Fillmore valve or go back a few videos where I review it and you will see it's a completely different design.
6-1-22 Good news. I wrote to Fillmore (Reserve Wheels) asking how I could use the Stan's Injector with their valves as the new Fillmore vales I received in early May did not allow me to screw on the injector. Fillmore replied they have just changed the valve and increased the threads on the stem to allow you to attach the Stan's Injector. They sent me a new pair of valves at no charge.
I know this is an old video but the yellow thing hanging on the tube is what stops the flow of the sealant. You have to close it and it pinches the hose so you can fill the it up then screw the top back on, connect it to the tire and open the yellow piece and push the plunger.
Ha! I was trying to figure out how that was supposed to work. This thing didn't come with instructions.
I don't put sealant in the way. I find it much easier to just pop the tire bead on one side, add sealant, then pop the tire back in. I learned that if only one side of the tire needs to be seated my regular pump can do it easily, especially with a Fillmore valve.
I did this yesterday with two new Fillmore valves. My Stan's injector nozzle wasn't long enough to connect with the threads on the Fillmore (they extend beyond the rim and up the valve only about 8mm on my Velocity Cliffhangers). I took the nozzle off but it was clear that the tube wouldn't go over the valve head of the Fillmores. I hunted around for alternative tubing but couldn't find any. In the end, I just dislodged the bead, levered off about 30cm/12" of tyre and poured in directly the Stan's Race sealant. I'll keep looking for a better tube or injector but at present paying NZD$85 for these valves has been a waste of time because filling sealant through the valve after I had got the bead to pop was my number one reason for buying them.
For what it's worth, I've always used my Stan's injector as a funnel and not as a syringe. I wouldn't do it your way, though, because you'll never know how much has gone into the tyre. Either use your clamp or do what I do - I have a dedicated measuring cup with a nice spout. I pour the sealant in there first, then pour it into the injector as funnel .... now to find the right tube or preferably an injector with long enough threads/clearance. I emailed Reserve about which injectors work but they're not known for replying often.
The syringe has measuring lines on it so I know how much goes in.
I was at a thrift store and saw a bunch of packaged air lines for those oxygen systems. I was thinking I could use them for my aquarium. So I bought one. The air lines have a kind of rubber thicker/wider fitting connection at each end. It fits absolutely perfectly over the Fillmore valve, its nice and snug, and it has a good grip for your hands to work it onto the valve. I am still waiting for a syringe I've ordered to make the connection at the other end.
I still have the standard valves and with the core removed, the sealant flows right in like you showed. Your syringe has the hose clamp, use that to allow measuring before it flows into the tire. Some sealant will fill the hose up to the clamp, but who needs such exact measuring? I have the Stans injector which doesn't include the clamp, so I screw on the end and then hold the syringe so that the hose is kinked while I fill it, works fine. I agree, the plunger is mostly useless, I do think there has been a time or two where it did help to get all the sealant into the tire.
Another thing to consider, is the type of sealant you use. If you are using Stans "Race Sealant", you will not be able to add sealent through any type of valve. Even a standard valve with core removed, will not work. It has very large particles so you must pop the bead.
To be honest, it only takes me about 3-4 minutes to air down,. pop the bead on one side and lever a small section of the tire open and pour the sealant in the tire. I can do this with the wheel still mounted to the bike. In my opinion, it takes the same amount of time and if you are experienced, no mess...
I see no value in adding sealant through any valve. I only bought the Fillmore vales to eliminate the sealant plug up in the valve body...
I agree. This is the first time I have tried it this way. I have always popped the bead and added sealant that way.
Easiest way is to draw the sealant into the syringe with the plunger, then connect hose to valve, plunge. Ta da, done. Vacuum will hold it in. Just like giving a shot!
Ah yes.....a vacuum would keep it from coming out! Didn't think of that. I will try it.
Thanks for the video , what syringe did you use ? I ordered some on Amazon and still more is spilled vs going in the tire . Thanks !
Way to go!
Hahaa brilliant I've got some that's great only one problem I've had is my digital pressure checker needs shrader so I usually just put a adaptor on the presta valve then check pressure but it doesn't seem to work with fillmore nevermind I'll need to get a dedicated presta pressure tester
So one needs to use a hose to get sealant through the Fillmore valve?
No more pouring my 3 oz. Throw aways through it?
Thanks
Thank you for this video. I recently put these Fillmore valves on my road bike. So far, I do like them. They work way better for seating the bead to the rim as well as airing up the tire. I will say that I DON't like the idea of pouring sealant through the valve. Seems sort of counterproductive ....since I bought them to relieve the whole issue of clogging within the valve. I'd rather unseat the bead a little and pour it in that way. I was thinking that if I do use your method, I would still run ( a little) soap & water down a clean tube to prevent any build up on the other end if you know what I mean. I watched other videos (even from the manufacturer) and they mentioned that build up can still "possibly" occur with these valves......but why contribute to that I say. What do you think?
I don't do this method, I just wanted to try it. I unseat and poor it in. This method is kind of a pain.
So I tried this with Silca's sealant replenished and that stuff is a bit too thick and viscous to really get thru the valve with no air in tire. Ended up pouring through the side of tire anyways, lol
Yep, this video is older. I only did this a couple of times before I simply decided to just pop the bead and put the sealant in that way. The convenience of this method is that you don't need to re-seat the tire, but with the Fillmore valves, you can't remove the core, so it's difficult to do.
What is the injector you use to add sealant. My Stans NoTube injector hose is too wide and have to break tire seal to add sealant.
Something I got off Amazon a while ago. I actually don't use this method anymore and I find it easier to pop the bead and add sealant.
note this won't work with stans race sealant, it has rocks n stuff in that just block any syringe 😂
I actually don't use this method. I was testing it out and honestly, it is much easier to just pop the bead add sealant and pop it back in.
I am wondering if you could post a link to the exact injector you use? I have tried two different ones using your method (still can't find another way to do it) but both of them have too big of tubes, they are tight like yours. Thanks!
I had to mod this one to work and it is barely tight enough. So not perfect, but I could make it work.
www.amazon.com/dp/B088R8XK21?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Hello, and thanks for this video! Any chance you could add the ref for the injector you are using? I have Stan's but the tube is too wide for the fillmore valve :(
I just found it on Amazon and it's not listed anymore. It looks similar to the Dymoece one I see on there. 🤷♂️
So did that Stan’s injector you originally had not work? Or was it the same problem as this one on the video?
I never have had a Stan's injector. Just this cheap one off of Amazon.
I had a Stans injector and cut it as described. It was a perfect fit. It also has a little on/off tap which is good
What length valve is this a 50mm?
Yes
In your experience, how does it compare to the MilkIt system?
I have never used Milkit. I actually don't use this system either. I just pop the bead, add sealant and then pop it back in. Super easy to do.
You have to take the valve out…..
Insert sarcasm here ^^^
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