3:37 ... The guy with the Cynic T-shirt and his look " I finally see them live after all those years, appreciate the moment" is priceless. Hat off to you sir!
another masterpiece from that album. My brother cant past the weird vocals but it works for me :) I love how Paul is raging with the short hair, times have changed but the music is still perfect :) Wish they had a "real" singer doing the growls and Paul would sing his parts with no processing but ill take whatever I can get CYNIC 4ever
the scream vocals were prerecorded (i think they're the original tracks from Focus) -Paul's been playing custom MIDI loaded Steinberger guitars for a long time... This is the first time I've seen him with passive pickups though
Wow...just reading this exchange made me feel good about my music preferences. Passion and intellectualism combined with an ultimate focus on objectivity and subjectivity...cheers to you both. Needless to say...great fucking band!
AMAZING!!! CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THEM LIVE!!! And what's with that static public? Fans in Western Europe and America totally don't go crazy at shows, they are used to getting all the bands they want. In Eastern Europe, when you rarely get the chance of seeing awesome bands, the atmosphere is totally different.
what an injustice!! fucking awesome band and place is half empty...Norway doesnt deserve another visit by this kick ass band..I bet half of this crowd came from thousands of miles to see them here...what a fucking kick ass band
the new second guitarist growls now... but the processing is still there and i kinda like it. does anyone know what effect he is using now? it's not a normal vocoder anymore...
From Wikipedia: The vocals of Paul Masvidal and Tony Teegarden alternate between Masvidal's robotic vocoder and Teegarden's guttural death growl, both of which are given equal emphasis on the album. In addition, a female vocalist (Sonia Otey, who also performed with French death metal band Loudblast around the same time) performed on several of the album's tracks. It still might very well be, that the growls are recorded and played in.
@javierlocutor nope, not the drummer. He has no mic on him and there is a shot of his face during harsh vocals and he is not moving his mouth. I believe it has to be a sample or something like that. At some point I thought there was a 5th guy but it was a cameraman.
rofl, that would explain it, cause Malone alwways has that mellow, rounded, fretless tone (Gordian Knot!!! when he's not on the STICK)...you would think he wouldnt even need fret markers but whatever...sick, unique bass tone. These guys are headlining the NOCTIS III METAL CONFERENCE in Calgary, Alberta in a few weeks! Can't wait
I've seen this happen during sound checks...the band will want one of the guitars turned down to have an overall mixing of the instruments, but they have to turn the other guitar up because the sound guys didn't seem them telling them to turn the guitar down. Same goes for any instrument, and I'd assume that's what happened here...Bass got turned down too much while the guitars were turned up. It sucks but at least the bands performance wasn't diminished.
To DaveDenver, The vocals are not a shame, they are original and add a whole other element to this band. Instead of doing death metal vocals the entire time they add melody. You gotta use your imagination. They are supposed to be other worldly, and with the number of galaxies in the universe that we know of it's hard to say this type of creature wouldn't exist. Just close your eye's and let it take you places. If you want cynic with other vocals listen to death - human or their demos.
@MaskedEmrys Well music is supossed to be listen to, anything else is optional. Some music is not ment for people to mosh, but rather to be listen only, and this is the case.
I don't think that Tony didn't want to tour with them. It just that he's an succesful entrepreneur nowadays, and probably don't have time to contribute with his amazing growls (which is a rare thing among entrepreneurs)
these guys came on stage and were like, "there's so few people in the crowd, but that's okay 'cause we're Cynic and we all get laid erre night." time to do some growls with my mind
soooo, did chris kringel get the frets removed from his spector for this? cause i have the exact same bass, down to the color, but they dont come in fretless. and that is most definately a fretless.
I heard a lot about these guys, but never actually really got into their stuff. I have to say, that WOW, this is awesome! Just wondering; who's doing the brutal vocals?
Jason Gobel apparently refuses to reunite or tour. And I agree, dude with hat is butchering our precious material. I'm sure there have to be two or ten guitarists watching these vids who ask themselves, why couldn't I have auditioned for this?? =)
Not entirely true. Masvidal as is illustrated on the demo's can death growl, but during the rebirth he decided not to compromise the quality of his clean vocals.
Why did they keep cutting to shots of random people staring in confusion? Show more of the Cynic shirt guy, at least he's enjoying himself. I don't want to see a meth head spacing out or a kid wishing slipknot was playing instead.
What's up with the horribly ASS cameraman that seems to totally love the rhythm guitarist when the lead is playing a solo, and the lead when the rhythm guitarist is playing his??? Holy ass.
This is the weakest Cynic arrangement since Pre-Focus with Tony Choy when the music was straight terrible. I can't understand how Paul Masvidal can be so amazing at arranging, yet have no concept of a decent mix. Chris Kringel is an AMAZING bassist, and he is almost entirely mixed out, Dave Senescu's tone is just terrible, and Paul's vocal effect sucks balls. So glad they shaped up when Tymon and Robin stepped in.
3:37 ... The guy with the Cynic T-shirt and his look " I finally see them live after all those years, appreciate the moment" is priceless. Hat off to you sir!
This song is so amazing, I could listen to it forever.
Paul Masvidal has some insane windmills!
another masterpiece from that album. My brother cant past the weird vocals but it works for me :)
I love how Paul is raging with the short hair, times have changed but the music is still perfect :)
Wish they had a "real" singer doing the growls and Paul would sing his parts with no processing but ill take whatever I can get
CYNIC 4ever
It took me so long to catch up to all this excellent music. Cynic is great!
That windmill menace of Paul at around 2:05 is from the heart indeed, I felt that too my friend - Masvidal rocks
I love how happy the one true cynic fan in the audience looks :p
4:21 Paul never ceases to amaze me.
the scream vocals were prerecorded (i think they're the original tracks from Focus) -Paul's been playing custom MIDI loaded Steinberger guitars for a long time... This is the first time I've seen him with passive pickups though
3:15 track hit him so hard he forgot what year it was lol
Wow...just reading this exchange made me feel good about my music preferences. Passion and intellectualism combined with an ultimate focus on objectivity and subjectivity...cheers to you both. Needless to say...great fucking band!
AMAZING!!! CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THEM LIVE!!! And what's with that static public? Fans in Western Europe and America totally don't go crazy at shows, they are used to getting all the bands they want. In Eastern Europe, when you rarely get the chance of seeing awesome bands, the atmosphere is totally different.
i don't know why but this is just fucking awesome.
what an injustice!! fucking awesome band and place is half empty...Norway doesnt deserve another visit by this kick ass band..I bet half of this crowd came from thousands of miles to see them here...what a fucking kick ass band
the new second guitarist growls now...
but the processing is still there and i kinda like it.
does anyone know what effect he is using now? it's not a normal vocoder anymore...
I'm living in 20 seconds! right now!
kid at 2:41 probably didn't realize that what he is listening to is legendary music created by genius musicians
That's me! I realized how lucky I was a couple of years later
I love how some people in the audience look as if they dont know whats going - obviously they are not a wave to....
it's always a pleasure.
Bah! There's barely anyone in the crowd. Christ this is one of the most underrated bands of all of teh timez!
Clearly a wise soul, unafraid of erring: A true cynic fan is easy to spot. Good day sir., and good pun.
It's the pure entity of Cynic. Welcome to cynical sphere :)
3:39
I want that guys shirt. Love this song.
From Wikipedia:
The vocals of Paul Masvidal and Tony Teegarden alternate between Masvidal's robotic vocoder and Teegarden's guttural death growl, both of which are given equal emphasis on the album. In addition, a female vocalist (Sonia Otey, who also performed with French death metal band Loudblast around the same time) performed on several of the album's tracks.
It still might very well be, that the growls are recorded and played in.
@javierlocutor nope, not the drummer. He has no mic on him and there is a shot of his face during harsh vocals and he is not moving his mouth.
I believe it has to be a sample or something like that.
At some point I thought there was a 5th guy but it was a cameraman.
2:01 is the reason why Masvidal should have kept long hair :D
rofl, that would explain it, cause Malone alwways has that mellow, rounded, fretless tone (Gordian Knot!!! when he's not on the STICK)...you would think he wouldnt even need fret markers but whatever...sick, unique bass tone. These guys are headlining the NOCTIS III METAL CONFERENCE in Calgary, Alberta in a few weeks! Can't wait
I've seen this happen during sound checks...the band will want one of the guitars turned down to have an overall mixing of the instruments, but they have to turn the other guitar up because the sound guys didn't seem them telling them to turn the guitar down. Same goes for any instrument, and I'd assume that's what happened here...Bass got turned down too much while the guitars were turned up. It sucks but at least the bands performance wasn't diminished.
Yes, I noticed that too, so I got wrong, maybe it is a sample as you say... anyways, great band.
Have a nice day!
I couldn't agree any more myself.
My thoughts exactly, although the burden stands with him as the head man in correcting it.
And it pissed me off they weren't focusing on the bass in the beginning, such an amazing bass line.
Rest in Peace Sean.
* man looking onward confused*, Followed by the timely vocal, "and they're all standing still."
I didn't realize that I actually like Cynic until I heard Traced in Air. Makes me want to give Focus a closer listen next time.
@jek21 the lead singer does them with his mind. It's what they usually do live
The guy at 3:14 is like ''Oh my god I'm so totally getting this. Oh wait, I'm not.''
The guy in a cap in the reunion is not Gobel. Gobel played in old Cynic.
My soul hurts too.
@graveborn
I don't care what you call it. I mean this band doesn't get anywhere near the amount of attention it deserves. They shouldnt be obscure.
Does anyone have the whole concert in hd?
To DaveDenver, The vocals are not a shame, they are original and add a whole other element to this band. Instead of doing death metal vocals the entire time they add melody. You gotta use your imagination. They are supposed to be other worldly, and with the number of galaxies in the universe that we know of it's hard to say this type of creature wouldn't exist. Just close your eye's and let it take you places. If you want cynic with other vocals listen to death - human or their demos.
@MaskedEmrys Well music is supossed to be listen to, anything else is optional. Some music is not ment for people to mosh, but rather to be listen only, and this is the case.
I don't think that Tony didn't want to tour with them. It just that he's an succesful entrepreneur nowadays, and probably don't have time to contribute with his amazing growls (which is a rare thing among entrepreneurs)
I love Cynics album "Focus".
these guys came on stage and were like, "there's so few people in the crowd, but that's okay 'cause we're Cynic and we all get laid erre night." time to do some growls with my mind
Haha at 2:01 Paul is jamming so hard
awesome progness!! the bassist (is that Malone?) sounds like hes on a fretless, but I keep seeing frets... and insight?
I cant find him either, Im believing is the drummer.
@Zechdlak
What makes you think Paul was in charge of the mix? Sometimes sound guy's fuck you over at gigs.
to the 3 below me. this isn't sean malone. he didn't rejoin cynic right away, this is kris kringel. and yes that is his real name
soooo, did chris kringel get the frets removed from his spector for this? cause i have the exact same bass, down to the color, but they dont come in fretless. and that is most definately a fretless.
it's samples from the album since the guy didn't want to tour with them or something like that
I heard a lot about these guys, but never actually really got into their stuff. I have to say, that WOW, this is awesome! Just wondering; who's doing the brutal vocals?
What is the name of the girl how sings in song mirror child and not the same ? Please
Agreed.
the other guy is Jason Gobel
3:37 Jason Gobel in the crowd?
Jason Gobel apparently refuses to reunite or tour. And I agree, dude with hat is butchering our precious material. I'm sure there have to be two or ten guitarists watching these vids who ask themselves, why couldn't I have auditioned for this?? =)
Anyone know what floor fx units they're using? They look like MIDI?
gotcha, well none the less you should buy the new album if you haven't already. It's not so robotic sounding but still amazing.
i do listen to death they're my favorite band i was just hoping for something better.
Not entirely true. Masvidal as is illustrated on the demo's can death growl, but during the rebirth he decided not to compromise the quality of his clean vocals.
They couldn't get the original vocalist so it's just playback but I'm pretty sure now they have a new guy who sounds pretty much identical.
does anyone know what guitar is paul using?
i know i knew he was good but i didnt know he could shred that hard
i can't agree that Focus is more death metal because i don't hear anymore death metal elements than in Traced In Air.
i say that you should not care about the vocals...this is metal not freakin rap that has only the vocals!!(i love audio preview)
The new one is awesome though.
Man, Paul always looks so spaced out lol
@MercilessIgnorance no, i just hate that i have no idea where the are coming from
Martyr is a really awesome band but nothing sound like cynic they are unic
Who does the growled vocals?
did they screw the beginning up? it sounded kinda off
Is it just me, or does Paul Masvidal and Jake Gyllenhaal kinda look like each other? Cynic rules. Hope I'll catch them some day live.
Who does the harsh vocals?
Chris Kringel is playing bass here
Look at 3:24, looks like there's almost no crowd. Great band though.
Dude, who's doing the screaming vocals in this performance?
dont forget reinert! lol they all are
sean malone??????
@MaskedEmrys Drugs...? ;p
2:09 i'm sorry but head banging just wont work without long hair :( but i guess his is expiremental with jazz fusion style headbanging
@P5ych00 That would have more to do with editing than filming. But yeah, fail.
Listen to Paul kill that solo.
they put a lot of emphasis on that guy for some reason
@dmguitarist99 santa? haha
who's growling there ?
i would seriously love this band if it werent for the vocals. what a shame.
@Skjoldr16 HAHAHA FUNNIEST SHIT EVER
Then you have some searching to do lol.
yeah i know what you mean i just prefer the screaming
@RealityBend Goku.
@thefreezingmoon07 and is more tan
Why did they keep cutting to shots of random people staring in confusion? Show more of the Cynic shirt guy, at least he's enjoying himself. I don't want to see a meth head spacing out or a kid wishing slipknot was playing instead.
What's up with the horribly ASS cameraman that seems to totally love the rhythm guitarist when the lead is playing a solo, and the lead when the rhythm guitarist is playing his???
Holy ass.
yeah, they're obviously not too pro are they? lol i mean they recorded it in mutliple angles but they just managed to choose the dumbest angles lol
OMG! The throat vocal is a sync! BS! :(
@thefreezingmoon07 John Mayer is actually very good at guitar, but he writes rather...simple guitar
oh they scream? they should do it all the time and cut out the other vocals in my opinion. those other vocals just annoy me im sorry.
This is the weakest Cynic arrangement since Pre-Focus with Tony Choy when the music was straight terrible. I can't understand how Paul Masvidal can be so amazing at arranging, yet have no concept of a decent mix. Chris Kringel is an AMAZING bassist, and he is almost entirely mixed out, Dave Senescu's tone is just terrible, and Paul's vocal effect sucks balls. So glad they shaped up when Tymon and Robin stepped in.