Breaking down Internal Power part 3
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- Опубліковано 16 кві 2022
- This is the third and last in this breaking down internal power series. in this video I talk about "connecting to force structure", this is again a very deceptive technique that can be used to make you seem impossible to push over or lift. While this technique can be used to deceive students, it also has legitimate value in grappling arts, and is commonly used all of the time.
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I'm convinced. I've been through like 50 of your videos now since learning about you from Rokas. As a Historical Fencer you've opened my eyes on so many different concepts/strategies that I apply weekly now at practice.
Your channel has genuinely transformed my martial arts. You've got a lifelong viewer.
Glad to hear it! If you haven't checked out my patreon page, I think you'd like it- I upload there 2-3 times a week, lot's of material that is not here on youtube. Thanks for your comments! www.patreon.com/christopherhein
Another spot on explanation of physics and biomechanics. I used to use these principles when I played Tight End during my Football days. Brute strength gets you pretty far, but balance, sensitivity, and the ability to change the direction of one's own force and that of one's opponent quickly in a small space is what gives you a huge advantage. So most times, the Warrior with the better nervous system wins. Which is why Aikido is a Superior Art in my humble opinion... it utilizes the principles of physics and biomechanics, trains the nervous system, and cultivates sensitivity perhaps a little better than some others do by it's very nature .. Great video.
Thanks!
Excellent three part presentatin, this FINALLY makes sense !
Thank you !
Bill P.
Loved this series, please more material!
Great Info! You have been on some other pod casts that was very good. I believe your approach explains Aikido the best! Keep up the Great work! The whole force angle connection is good mojo!
Thank you, glad you're enjoying my work!
Fantastic video-would love videos like this to show how to use someone's against them!
Great suggestion!
love watching your videos Hein's sensei, thank you for sharing, I am 100% with you there, i keep telling my students it is just physics, there is nothing magical about this, this series has been awesome 👍🙏
Glad you enjoyed the videos! Thanks for watching!
Awesome series! Would love to see more! Really appreciate your generosity of these free videos on UA-cam! 🙏
I’ve seen the lifting your partner exercise done slightly differently in different arts. First, the partner being lifted would stand stiff as a board. They were pretty easy to lift. Then the person being lifted was instructed to completely relax. This made them dead weight and made it so that the person lifting had to actually lift their full weight and made it way harder to lift them. The instructor tried to make it mystical and called it grounding. That being said, I think it is still a good demonstration of how by being more relaxed and less physically connected through rigidity throughout your whole body you make yourself harder to move and disrupt your balance. Sorry for the long reply; it is hard to write it so that it is clear enough for others to understand simply through reading. Hopefully, this makes sense.
Gracias Sensei su generosidad y buena intensión salta por encima de su ropa. Con gran claridad y sencillez expone un tema que ha estado cubierto de patrañas, sin desmeritar la autenticidad del trabajo interno. Al final todo y todos somos energía la física es capaz de darnos fórmulas y métodos para explicar el funcionamiento de muchas de las energías con las que vivimos no obstante
Queda pendiente un estudio serio y sistemático de nuestra energía interior. La cual SI existe.. muchas gracias y bendiciones para usted y los suyos.
A lot more of these internal power videos, please. Although I already know the tricks you've already shown, I enjoy your perspective. It's always good to hear someone else's thoughts on what is going on.
I did Aikido for about 7 years, and now I do Katori Shinto Ryu. What I realized is that a lot of the secret techniques are essentially applying "magic tricks", for lack of a better expression, to combat. With swords, there are many techniques that you can't even see when done to you because they apply specific angles and take advantage of weaknesses in human vision. Michael Jai White has a great video where he punches by aligning it with his opponent's vision, without engaging his shoulders, making it almost impossible to see the punch coming or judge the distance. From the side you can see the punch coming a mile away, but when you're the target, you can't see shit.
The same sort of tricks are done with swords. Here are two common ones you see in almost every traditional sword school:
Point the sword at the enemy's eyes, and he can't tell when it's coming towards him, allowing you to sneak up rather close before you cut him. That way the attack comes a lot more suddenly than he expected, and he can't react to it in time.
Another is that you're cutting down on the enemy, and you see he's raising his sword to block, but then you find yourself losing balance, and stagger a bit. What happened was that the block was softer than expected, 受ける(ukeru, "yielding/receiving"). The defender then takes advantage of your staggering.
Cool, have to think about how to apply these to jian
Thanks for sharing 🙏
You did a really good breakdown
It would also be interesting to see more how these concepts can be used in martial arts.
These are concepts used specifically to describe what is happening in "Internal Power" demonstrations- aside from leverage there are better ways to describe these things in martial arts techniques... Although you're right, it might be fun to do.
@@ChuShinTani in my youth I always thought that these are the concepts aikido was built on in order to give the edge if one is outweighed or against stronger opponent, hence why the statement "using their own strength against them" and what you showed in the wrestling scenario with trapping the foot was a good technique. You sharing these things are important to unveil the riff raff and get down to the nitty gritty of effectiveness.
Looking forward to your next video
I agree that you've laid a good foundation with these principles. What would be interesting, is taking those principles and showing them at work in nikkyo, or iriminage, or whatever else would make sense.
That might be fun.
Really great video, man
Thanks!
Very interesting. !!
I have watched all three of your videos on the subject and I thank you very much because you made simple what my aikido instructor obfuscated for us. making it some kind of magical power.
But I believe he deceived himself believing it to be chi power.
Glad you found them helpful. You might enjoy my Patreon page, I'm devoted to simplifying and making Aikido more understandable. Patreon.com/christopherhein
Ive watched the whole series now. And indeed as you said this is not internal and much different from the internal arts. All internal arts dont make use of force(muscle power) changing vectors and using leverages is a low level skill which does help with martial applications obviously. Basic rule is... if your trying to overpower or use muscles to move some or stop someone its not internal. Obviously internal just means inside love the series thanks.
The grapevine is illegal in Greco. You do find it in most other wrestling styles, though. In my experience, it doesn't prevent people from getting lifted, but it's a strong deterrent against a suplex, since the guy doing the grapevine will usually fall on top, unless the guy in the back really throws the grapevined leg up and turns to the side. Therefore, you want to lift them and take them down forward, with or without a leg sweep.
Hi. Thank you for sharing those great informations.
I would like to ask you to make a video on how to use pressure and counter pressure in different technics from ikkyo to yonkyo.
Thank you
It would also be interesting to see all the grips in aikido, such as kata dori, ryu kata dori and so on. Researching aikido it seems that people have really watered it down to wrist grabs and locks, but looking into it, I see there's way more effectiveness there. All aikido grips should be displayed and then sparred using only the grips, learning how to make them and break and what techniques to set up in them.
You should join my Patreon page, I think I has all the material you're looking for.
Thank you; important to sniff out what is suspicious and scurrilous.
I would like to request a video on the strikes (if there are kicks as well) and parries from aikido. I have many more requests but this would be a good start and highly appreciated.
Also it would be interesting to see an experiment on tai sabaki and ma-ai vs boxer (i.e hand 2 hand).
I have many pending researches for the aiki-lab
I'll put some stuff up for you- but I don't think you'll like the answers- they won't work in MMA.
@@ChuShinTani thanks, I still think aikido could be used in MMA or hand2hand combat, just discovering the grips/grabs in aikido such as mune dori grip or ryo kata dori other ones combined with a strike has highered the fightability of aikido with like 70%.
Also would be appreciated if you covered more of ko geki
You looks like Lenin a bit. Especially on black an white pictures. Amasing.
Dad strength is real.
I knew it!
Great insights. I have been practicing this but hadn't got this far and simplified it in such a great way.
What about O'Sensei holding a jo out and a bunch of students grabbing the other end and not being able to move it? Is that force redirection?
Hi , many thanks for your 3 videos. Very good .
I would like to know how to move a partner sideway.
Many thanks
Sunny regards
Patrick from Mauritius.
There is footage from Koichi Tohei where he makes himself impossible to lift without touching or holding on to the other guy. I always figured there is some kind of trick to it, like shifting the weight a bit towards the back, or something. Do you know how to prevent the other man from lifting without touching or holding on to him?
If he's not being touched, how did they lift him. I think I know the demo you're talking about, I covered that on an earlier set I did here on UA-cam- you can find them in my internal power play list.
@@ChuShinTani Haha, with his hands I meant ;) thanks, I will check it out
Chris, how is the immovable arm done?
I think I've put this video up already, I'll look and get back to you.
@@ChuShinTani thank you!
@@ChuShinTani just following up on the this... Much appreciated! 😊
I do not think this is breaking down. It was just typical explanation about connecting. I hope you will break it down furthermore.
I can understand how you feel. I'm actually uploading a video today on my patreon page that talks about how I think you should investigate internal martial arts. You might find that illuminating. www.patreon.com/christopherhein
Can you demonstrate how someone can stand on one leg, while the opponent is pushing against their chest...but no arm links. Their arms are down on the side.
No- unless the person "pushing" is not pushing.
i have done this kind of demo with little kids(8 years old or less)resisting the push from full grown adult.And thn I allways explained that is NOT a mystical power!
Great!
What do you think about Dan Harden if you know him?
Yeah, I know about Dan. He does his own movement thing.
@@ChuShinTaniwhat do you think about his approach?
I dislike it.
@@ChuShinTani why if I can ask? I don't know him but I heard of him
You should check him out if you're interested. However it's not for me.
Dear Mister Hein,
Your explanations, which I appreciaete, as to the deceptions of internal power masters. But, but as an Aikido practitioner, why don´t you deal with speak a analyze Aikido? For example the late Mr. Koichi Tohei ś masters feets: such as
- making heavier by concentraiting on the lowest dantien
- the unmovable arm by conentrating on its lower line and leaving Chi flow via a wirsts with fingers wide open, etc.
Those are strictl&y Aikido related and wildly seen on the viedeos o f that admirable master of Aikido. May he an the Osensei rest in Peace. Paul,68
Those are also variations on these ideas. I could make a video specifically going through those demonstrations, but the explanations would basically be the same. I thought these particular demonstrations were more interesting at the time I recorded this.
hi chris, love your videos and approach to aiki, there are definitely styles/teachers that claim to be internal that use these tricks, but it’s not what real internal arts use. Adam Chan, a very capable martial artist who’s studied a multitude of disciplines, including both external and internal, has a great video describing the process in a straightforward manner ua-cam.com/video/61sLi5A5ewo/v-deo.html
Cool video. He's a good at explaining these ideas. They are the same ideas that I'm explaining in this series.
the artificial film grain artifacts are really distracting
The video's don't have them on Patreon.
@@ChuShinTani thankfully we've got AI for this instead
So okay. Three videos to show you really have no idea what actual internal power training is. Sure, people shouldn’t get fooled by basic mechanical physics being deceptively used by charlatans, but that’s not what actual internal power training is about.
And that's what IT/IP/IS people always say- yet (exactly as you've done here) fail to say what it is. I've trained with many people who do this kind of thing, what they demonstrate is simple principles of physics (as outlined out here), but for some strange reason they can't actually explain what it is they are doing. Now they can quickly point out what it isn't... But they seem to have no idea what it is. In the end it's the things outlined here.
I am just a student but I could explain internal principles. First principle Release muscle tension don't use muscles to move a person.