Aikido doesn't have knife disarms??

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  • Aikido doesn't have knife disarms??
    From outside of the system, knife disarms look super cool and new people always want to learn them. From inside of the system, a growing concern in the Aikido community is that Aikido doesn't actually have any viable knife disarms-- it's not true. Aikido doesn't have knife disarms- have you seen Aikido- it's full of them. However knife disarms are not easy or common place in a live situation- so the real question is how do you train those disarms so you can do them if the situation ever arises. Aikido techniques focus around clearing objects from the hand- that what all those wrist twisting techniques are, and why there are so many wrist grabs in Aikido- but you have to learn how to actually use them- and when they are a bad idea. How does Aikido v.s. the Knife play out? Well it's not as fancy as you think but Aikido knife disarming techniques are common in the system. You can look at this a wristlocks for the streets... that's dramatic!
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  • @akumabakemono1447
    @akumabakemono1447 3 роки тому +27

    I always loved (and will love) unarmed martial arts (Hung Gar, Northern Shaolin Kung Fu, Okinawan Karate, Southern Praying Mantis, Kudo, Sumo and Sambo are my favourites ones) but I always wondered the same as you: "Why so much obsession for unarmed martial arts in our cultures?". Even with all fire weapons, edge weapons still be the most common tool used to hurt and even kill people.
    I studied Aikido for 4 years (in a really chill out non martial focused Aikikai Dojo) and when I sparred in my backyard with a mate that started practizing Box at the same time I started Aikido, the results were always the same:
    -10 unarmed matches: I fought well 4 or 5 matches, but he won all 10.
    -10 armed matches (me with knife, he unarmed): he "died" 10 times.
    -10 armed matches (he with knife, me unarmed): I only "died" 3 or 4 times.
    I'm not saying Box is useless (is an awesome discipline) I'm saying that is fun how one of the most popular and effective fight systems lose in the same scenario were one of the most insulted martial arts (Aikido) works pretty well... and is the same scenario where more commonly people get killed in the streets...
    Awesome vid by the way, I love your view on Aikido, a really fresh air on the topic. Greetings from Argentina!

    • @ChuShinTani
      @ChuShinTani  3 роки тому +3

      Thanks for your comments and kind words!

  • @lsporter88
    @lsporter88 5 місяців тому

    Sterling Explanations in concert with well executed Demonstrations. Superb video.

  • @franciscordon9230
    @franciscordon9230 3 роки тому +2

    Loved this one. Thanks for sharing as always! I love how you separate a system having 'something' and one's ability to do that very same thing.

  • @guarddog318
    @guarddog318 3 роки тому +6

    Josh and Maya have quickly become 2 of my favorite martial arts instructors/demonstraighters.
    You ain't bad either, Redbeard. 😁😉😜
    P.S. Many years ago I studied Karate, Wing Chun, and Northern Shaolin Kung Fu, as well as several others.
    Unfortunately, neurological problems put a stop to the practice. ( Can't do that stuff if you have a leg that won't work properly. )

  • @RichardBejtlich
    @RichardBejtlich 3 роки тому +6

    Neat video. Maybe Maya should throw the knife away from Josh after the disarm? We've all heard the story of a trainee who practiced disarms and returned the gun or knife to the "attacker" in the gym, only to do the same "on the street." It's probably an urban myth, but throwing the weapon away is a good way to instill proper actions into the trainee.

    • @ChuShinTani
      @ChuShinTani  3 роки тому +3

      I train them to use what they take away!

  • @rev.paull.vasquez4001
    @rev.paull.vasquez4001 3 роки тому +4

    There’s no way in real life that fighting someone who is armed when you aren’t is a desirable situation. You’ve shown your awareness of this in your other videos (the marker one is my favorite). You’ve also made it clear that the techniques of aikido need not be just unarmed versus armed, that the movements and techniques apply in various situations. I like that you train people to think of the overall tactical situation. No one should be seeking to get into an unequal fight. I like that you also explicitly train people to think of delaying until you can get a “superior weapon system.”

  • @blaa443blaa2
    @blaa443blaa2 Рік тому +1

    this was actually really good

  • @anthonystevenson7944
    @anthonystevenson7944 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you Christopher .Very practical, very realistic! Love and respect.I would like to see Aikido defense/knife dis - arm when uke utilizes the military/ " ice pick " knife grip(where with the knife, an attacker has a unique range of slashing motion, especially upwards,and horizontally across,utilizing either wrist pronation/supination) ! However, your video effort is much appreciated!

  • @deejin25
    @deejin25 3 роки тому +4

    Over a thousand views, not one dislike. Good lecture and demo.

  • @ChungsMartialArts
    @ChungsMartialArts 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks for all the great content!

  • @gengotaku
    @gengotaku 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the realistic video depicting aikido's techniques and showing it is USEFUL, despite what people say. I shall get to 3 kyu level next month and hopefully get my black belt
    by next year. Keep it up!

  • @tavtav3526
    @tavtav3526 3 роки тому +4

    You seem really enjoyed it now and I love it. The way you project yourself in front of camera is several times better now. Josh and Maya also seem enjoyed it now.
    It happen in my dojo. My senior when doing live demonstration on audience do kind of hit the knife disarm when I ask him a question, he said he learn it from krav maga video on yt. I don't know why aikidoka even need to train other martial art system knife disarm that doesn't have organized training method like aikido. I don't say you shouldn't learn from other, just why don't deepen your own martial art technique.
    I hope you finished all your aikido live drill/sparring. It's only you who can do it. Thank you for this awesome video.

    • @ChuShinTani
      @ChuShinTani  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks for the comments, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @reginaldwelkin
    @reginaldwelkin 3 роки тому +2

    This was great! There are three scenarios I didn't see covered: defending in a small space (e.g. elevator or small office) where there isn't all that room to run, non-flat ground (where it is easier to fall when backing up), and the non-knife hand being used to grab and pull the defender into the stab while blocking an easy knife grab. I believe all of these can be addressed using Aikido Technics, but would require some changes in strategy.

  • @Rokasleo
    @Rokasleo 3 роки тому +5

    Love the thumbnail! 😂

    • @ChuShinTani
      @ChuShinTani  3 роки тому +2

      Ha! Trying to break the internet over here, HAHA!

  • @anthonydavythompsonstevens4297

    Thankyou .Much Appreciated. 😀❤️👍😀

  • @ravenlasky5286
    @ravenlasky5286 3 роки тому +6

    A comment for the algorithm. +1

  • @ezekielgarza1150
    @ezekielgarza1150 Рік тому

    Nice progression

  • @rashidmartialarts9513
    @rashidmartialarts9513 3 роки тому +2

    Well explained

  • @dogguyful
    @dogguyful 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome 👍👍👌👌👊👊🥊🥊🙏🙏🥋🥋

  • @thescholar-general5975
    @thescholar-general5975 3 роки тому +2

    One of the best knife defense vids I have seen so far!

  • @SlickTim9905
    @SlickTim9905 3 роки тому +2

    Nicely ordered, from the visual concept to the training. Soft to hard.
    I noticed the lady losing her form as the difficulty increased. That happens. Thanks for showing that.
    I have to ask, how often do you practice in the self defence? How quickly do beginners start this training? I think on the point you made in the beginning, is that people train for a few months and then stop. They don't have a clear vision of what it's supposed to look like.

  • @shidoin5398
    @shidoin5398 3 роки тому

    Part 2 should be comparing real life knife attacks caught on video, and see how you would defend in that situation

  • @bloodhyena
    @bloodhyena 3 роки тому +2

    Good stuff

  • @ACCool78
    @ACCool78 2 роки тому +1

    Always a fan of this channel&
    many great ideas here! However those techniques can probably only work if attacker isn't experienced. Experienced knife fighter won't come with long strikes. It'll be quick slashes&back like jab in boxing.
    Still tho if close to attacker when knife is pulled, these moves can work very well.

    • @ChuShinTani
      @ChuShinTani  2 роки тому

      Distance is the answer to quick cuts and stabs.

  • @vano-559
    @vano-559 3 роки тому +2

    You mentioned that for example nikkyo is principle of Aikido. Maybe you extend this idea in next videos?

    • @ChuShinTani
      @ChuShinTani  3 роки тому +1

      I think a series of technical video's is in the near future. Thanks for the comments!

  • @zachtrent9956
    @zachtrent9956 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks I really REALLY like the way you teach and explain Aikido. I haven't taught in over 5 months due to COVID so I am missing training :)
    Where is your dojo? I hope I can come and train sometime.

    • @ChuShinTani
      @ChuShinTani  3 роки тому +1

      We are in Fresno California. Currently closed as well. When we are open and back to normal you will be very welcome at my Dojo! Thanks for the comments!

  • @ianperkins2679
    @ianperkins2679 3 роки тому +2

    Great video, are these principles taught in japanese jujutsu? Many thanks

    • @ChuShinTani
      @ChuShinTani  3 роки тому +3

      Thanks! Yes and no. First you have to understand that "Japanese Jujutsu" is a collection of work, with many different schools of thought that focus on armed grappling methods- that later became focused on unarmed grappling and eventually turned into Judo.
      That said- these are all common disarming methods used in most styles of Japanese Jujutsu.

    • @ianperkins2679
      @ianperkins2679 3 роки тому +1

      @@ChuShinTani thank you for your reply

  • @ianrobertson432
    @ianrobertson432 2 роки тому +1

    i love your videos where is your dojo located?

    • @ChuShinTani
      @ChuShinTani  2 роки тому

      Thanks! I'm located in Fresno California.

  • @johndrake5467
    @johndrake5467 2 роки тому

    Great drill! But say if he ran at her with his defending arm outstretched with the intent to grab and stab?

    • @ChuShinTani
      @ChuShinTani  2 роки тому +1

      The techniques for that are mune dori and Kata dori.

  • @mordi2537
    @mordi2537 2 роки тому

    Buitifull Dojo. I train agresive contact Arnis. The chance of any of these Techniques working under pressure ? Slim. Hint that very few people realize. The attacker has more than 1hand.

  • @MrSamurai137
    @MrSamurai137 3 роки тому

    I like this I think maybe you should work on uki being cagey but dominating the space key points nage looking for the exit or other weapon equalise The situation I.e real strategy. There are no golden rule but General rules of thump

    • @ChuShinTani
      @ChuShinTani  3 роки тому

      I think you should work on: spelling, punctuation and grammar.

    • @MrSamurai137
      @MrSamurai137 3 роки тому +1

      @@ChuShinTani 100% correct

    • @MrSamurai137
      @MrSamurai137 3 роки тому

      @@ChuShinTani sorry if I upset you.
      I hope the maybe in there would nullify any hating. Like what you are doing new and interesting.

    • @ChuShinTani
      @ChuShinTani  3 роки тому

      @@MrSamurai137 I'm not upset, but you should understand I've spent over 20 years working on Aikido, I have my own approach to Aikido, and I make my living teaching Aikido full time. If you are to critique something you see me doing, you can't expect me to take you seriously if you cannot construct a readable sentence.
      In essence you're trying to tell me that you've found a flaw in a detail of something I have worked on constantly for a very long time- but you don't know that the common romanized spelling of 受け is "uke".
      This might seem like a small detail to you- but the detail you are describing to me is much smaller- it makes me not take you seriously.
      I wish you all the best in your studies!

    • @MrSamurai137
      @MrSamurai137 3 роки тому +1

      @@ChuShinTani Yes the written word is not my strongest from of communication as a dyslexic it never will be hope that helps with context.
      Glad your not upset I’m not either.
      Context is to me very important it defines what I should do or some might do to me in a conflict.
      All the best

  • @driver3899
    @driver3899 3 роки тому +1

    14:04 "cutting like this is normal" Have never come across any footage of a violent crime that used a small knife to cut down from 12 to 6 like that, seems pretty unlikely tbh

    • @ChuShinTani
      @ChuShinTani  3 роки тому +3

      Put the knife in a reverse grip and you'll find it pretty common. I found video of a lady getting attacked in an office that way, a cop being attacked that way and a woman attacking a police dog that way- all in about 2mins of searching "knife attack".

    • @driver3899
      @driver3899 3 роки тому +1

      @@ChuShinTani Yes reverse grip I have seen
      I tried googling the same thing and got very different results even after 10 mins but that doesn't mean much, its obviously out there so I stand corrected
      I guess I just never came across it before which is surprising because I have watched literally hundreds of stabbing attacks. I have been in that situation for real which is why I am interested in the subject

  • @Scorch1028
    @Scorch1028 3 роки тому +1

    Aikido definintely has "knife disarms" because it has "knife training", the well-known Aikido dagger. There's no point in training with the Aikido dagger, if you don't learn how to use the knife defensively.

  • @b11jiral63
    @b11jiral63 2 роки тому

    ESCRIMA IS BETTER AT KNIFE DISARMS THAN AIKIDO

    • @ChuShinTani
      @ChuShinTani  2 роки тому +1

      Escrima is not a person, Escrima cannot disarm anyone. The
      Techniques found in Escrima-for disarms are also in Aikido....As well a a few hundred other martial arts systems. The training methodology to develop a person to be proficient at disarms isn't uniform across Escrima, or really any system. Being proficient at anything is really dependent upon who is training the thing, what they are training, who is training them and their motivation to develop the skill.

  • @benjaminyoung9694
    @benjaminyoung9694 Рік тому

    This is not true Aikido

    • @ChuShinTani
      @ChuShinTani  Рік тому

      True Aikido? There are many true Aikidos- some people agree with you, some do not- such is the world.