this is how you bring back a Legendary Exotic of D1 into D2, rework for d2 while keeping heritage of D1, make ammo, but you make your own ammo. This gun has perks that compliment D2's sandbox really well and rewards good use of the perks and abilities, while still paying homage to D1's icebreaker
A lot of people were malding over the fact they couldn't just sit in a cheese spot in a nightfall for 30 seconds to regen some ammo to plink away at a boss and wait another 30 second to do it again. Same thing with Hawkmoon, the D2 version is not only much better designed and interesting, it's WAAAAY stronger.
@@senate2674 Bungie is ultimately BUSINESS, they need to make money, Development time and costs of a dungeon are higher than what we even know, so chill dude. We got a cool expereience with a returning exotic that actually is returning in a great way rather than in the same bland broken form it was in D1. If ya dont like it, dont buy it, and fuck off to play something else, simple as that dude
Another thing to note about Icebreakers perk. Because you will essentially always have special there is no longer any need for a special finder mod, meaning you could reasonably run 2x Heavy Finder and the new heavy ammo mod on your primary without any issues.
And as you can see at 2:26 , it doesn't specifically state this in the perk description, but when you just shoot a stasis crystal and break it with icebreaker, it causes an explosion. The same explosion as if you just got a kill with it, it's not an ignition. So you can pair that with glacier grenade or any headstone weapon
You can already get the catalyst if you had the Ice Breaker. Icing-Breaker: Landing a hit on a slowed or frozen target has a chance to return the round to the magazine. That’s what it does.
The catty leaning more into that DPS role is hella nice. I wish it would be a guaranteed bullet on frozen targets but the rng might be high for it. Good catty definitely worth getting.
@@gooberMcGooberstien You have to do a secret mission in the dungeon to get it from what I’ve heard. Probably trying to get pass the second encounter solo before thinking about farming the dungeon for me 😭
I actually like that they're not letting certain effects stack, so that way you're not getting LFG groups saying "must have x weapon" because only one person benefits from using it
I am so glad an lucky it dropped for me last night on my third normal run. It was the fastest dropping exotic ever and that’s including old world drops, raids etc. using it with headstone weapons or prismatic with what stasis nade is there
I don’t understand why people were expecting ice breaker to be a good dps weapon when it was never good for that originally in d1. I’m sure people with nostalgia glasses don’t want to hear this but reality is disappointing. Ice breaker was ass in pve post year one d1, and the only reason it was ever good in the first place was because you could cheese fights with the infinite ammo. Beyond breaking the pvp ammo economy later on the guns gimmicks were never that valuable.
Exactly. It excelled at TOTAL damage because infinite ammo. But the rate of damage, or DPS, was never good since you had to sit around and wait for the ammo to regenerate. D1 Y1 was just very poorly designed with very few encounter mechanics and most of the bosses being massive health sponges. The best strategy therefore was to engage as little as possible while reliably doing a TON of overall damage. THAT’S why Ice Breaker was so good.
Icebreaker only really excelled at cheesing things in D1. Found Verdict and Black Hammer lived in my special slot unless I needed a specific elemental damage type.
@@fenixstorm2165 sleeper/levi's/grand overture work best, my team ran triple speakers and wells, with weakening and radiant we had consistent dmg and well up on the oil tank at all times
Run it with osomancy and you have infinite ammo. The shatters seem to proc the ammo so you freeze shoot they shatter and ignite and you get ammo back. It's great
Some people dont get it. This is a AD clearing sniper, not a total DPS weapon. I have been using this, and chain explosions clear everything near a precision kill with additional explosions, its awesome like acandesence on steriods. Bungie did a really good job with re release.
Just got done completing the catalyst defeat and it’s such a nice little icing on the cake especially for stasis build. Not too OP yet not too underpowered. Bungie found a sweet spot.
i think this build gets infinitely better with the rocket-assisted sidearm coming from Iron Banner, since that will roll with chill clip... much easier to make sure bosses are frozen Bleak Watcher + one shot of chill clip sidearm shot = frozen --> switch to Ice breaker = shatter + ignition damage with every shot
im using ice breaker with lucky pants and edge transit and that build just cooks you have so much damage all the time and consistant add clear and high health targets clearing and thats before using abilites you can pair with so many subclasses
i’m looking to try it with the new bleak domain warlock exotic, especially with IB catalyst. if you’re inside the bleak domain you can shoot enemies to slow them, giving IB more chances of free ammo
Yo, what's wrong with ignition right now ? The damage is falling off very hard on subsequent proc. Like going from 49k down to 3k with my concecration.
I wish bungie would stop lying with the perk descriptions. It isn't a chance on kill it is entirely deterministically decided. Chance implies it's random and could not happen as often or happen more often, while in actuality the perk it is perfectly consistent. I genuinely don't understand
Rimecoat Raimant, bait and switch auto loading rocket, nova bomb, hand cannon primary. Stand in the Raiment pool, nova, hit twice with the hand cannon to freeze the boss, switch to Icebreaker to shatter, rocket, back to hand cannon, repeat. On Prismatic with the shatter and ignition fragment.
Or you could equip cloudstrike and skip most of what u just said. Nothing u do with icebreaker can beat cloudstrike. It's add clear and how you gonna freeze bosses my guy?
@@hoax845 bosses freeze and shatter like anything else, my guy, they just don't get frozen in place. And Cloudstrike isn't as easily put into a damage rotation as something that hits big and then lets you switch to a rocket or grenade launcher. Cloudstrike doesn't have the burst damage this does per shot.
Not every weapon has to be a boss damage one. I hate that people always look if its killing Bosses fast,if not its trash. 🤬 This us so dumb. Icebreaker is such a cool in between boss phase weapon that i cant put it away.😂
Its cool with stasis, other than that, it is worthless. Its a add clear exotic and not meant to dps bosses. Its nostalgia but i like the effect when the original wasnt a dps machine either.
D2 is so dead to me, after playing from day one until a few months ago. Crucible and Trials pool is tiny. You need a fireteam for everything. I really hope bungie makes a new game.
I’ve seen a theory that icebreaker was probably meant to be in the pass originally and something internally made it be the dungeon exotic but I do hope they change the step to the grenade launcher
Bungo are the kings of recycling old stuff, and their players are suckers who gladly accept it, along with being fine with content they paid for being vaulted, seasons/dlc's being lackluster, etc, etc.
Exactly what I was thinking, nearly all the comments are coping hard. This sniper is irrelevant when you have stillhunt, cloudstrike, whisper, izanagi’s, etc etc. Straight to the vault with this version of icebreaker smh…
@@DMNATRDM as someone who uses every gun in the game having a new option makes the game fun for me while constantly using Meta stuff can make the game stale
well we were never gonna get THE icebreaker because its perk was so busted, that's why i was surprised when they said they were bringing it back because like with hawkmoon i knew they were gonna change it substantially
Uhh… original icebreaker only had 6 ammo capacity so this new ice breaker actually has larger reserves. Plus it’s ammo regeneration is nothing like shoot to loot. It’s just instead of waiting 7 seconds to regen 1 ammo, you get kills with other weapons to regen ammo, which is better in most situations. Plus the explosions on kill are still there. This seems pretty like icebreaker to me and not just a low reserves sniper with shoot to loot.
this is how you bring back a Legendary Exotic of D1 into D2, rework for d2 while keeping heritage of D1, make ammo, but you make your own ammo.
This gun has perks that compliment D2's sandbox really well and rewards good use of the perks and abilities, while still paying homage to D1's icebreaker
A lot of people were malding over the fact they couldn't just sit in a cheese spot in a nightfall for 30 seconds to regen some ammo to plink away at a boss and wait another 30 second to do it again.
Same thing with Hawkmoon, the D2 version is not only much better designed and interesting, it's WAAAAY stronger.
It also has a 20dollar price tag even though we have already acquired it multiple times in the previous game, yeahhhhh lets gooo📈📈📈
@@senate2674 stfu lmfao, mfs like you always find something to complain about.
@@senate2674 the average d2 experience
@@senate2674 Bungie is ultimately BUSINESS, they need to make money, Development time and costs of a dungeon are higher than what we even know, so chill dude. We got a cool expereience with a returning exotic that actually is returning in a great way rather than in the same bland broken form it was in D1.
If ya dont like it, dont buy it, and fuck off to play something else, simple as that dude
Another thing to note about Icebreakers perk. Because you will essentially always have special there is no longer any need for a special finder mod, meaning you could reasonably run 2x Heavy Finder and the new heavy ammo mod on your primary without any issues.
What if I used the call with lead from gold with it would it still work well
Didn’t even think of that, nice thought
People actually run special finder?
@@SaffimaruOn double special loadout
@@Pineapple_Papi special finisher
And as you can see at 2:26 , it doesn't specifically state this in the perk description, but when you just shoot a stasis crystal and break it with icebreaker, it causes an explosion. The same explosion as if you just got a kill with it, it's not an ignition.
So you can pair that with glacier grenade or any headstone weapon
I think what happened was that the shatter explosion killed an ad. That kill counts as an icebreaker kill, so it made it explode
@AissamElkirafi I've seen video of others shooting just the stasis crystal, can confirm as of right now or causes detonation without ad needed.
Catalyst in the database also give Icebreaker headstone, so self contained loop right there
@@nathcu11er77liar
@@nathcu11er77ur wrong catalyst is alr out it gives ammo on shattering
You can already get the catalyst if you had the Ice Breaker.
Icing-Breaker: Landing a hit on a slowed or frozen target has a chance to return the round to the magazine.
That’s what it does.
The catty leaning more into that DPS role is hella nice. I wish it would be a guaranteed bullet on frozen targets but the rng might be high for it. Good catty definitely worth getting.
@@gooberMcGooberstien You have to do a secret mission in the dungeon to get it from what I’ve heard. Probably trying to get pass the second encounter solo before thinking about farming the dungeon for me 😭
@@Kevlar020give titan a go! Glacial quake demolishes that boss, make sure to use weaken/tractor for a 2-3 phase
@@junnKhya good to know. I will need to get my titan at level before. It’s been ages since I uses him 😅
What a creative caty name
I actually like that they're not letting certain effects stack, so that way you're not getting LFG groups saying "must have x weapon" because only one person benefits from using it
I am so glad an lucky it dropped for me last night on my third normal run. It was the fastest dropping exotic ever and that’s including old world drops, raids etc. using it with headstone weapons or prismatic with what stasis nade is there
I don’t understand why people were expecting ice breaker to be a good dps weapon when it was never good for that originally in d1. I’m sure people with nostalgia glasses don’t want to hear this but reality is disappointing. Ice breaker was ass in pve post year one d1, and the only reason it was ever good in the first place was because you could cheese fights with the infinite ammo. Beyond breaking the pvp ammo economy later on the guns gimmicks were never that valuable.
Exactly. It excelled at TOTAL damage because infinite ammo. But the rate of damage, or DPS, was never good since you had to sit around and wait for the ammo to regenerate.
D1 Y1 was just very poorly designed with very few encounter mechanics and most of the bosses being massive health sponges. The best strategy therefore was to engage as little as possible while reliably doing a TON of overall damage. THAT’S why Ice Breaker was so good.
Icebreaker only really excelled at cheesing things in D1. Found Verdict and Black Hammer lived in my special slot unless I needed a specific elemental damage type.
Sad I wasn't able to finish contest because of work. Im hoping and coping ill get it early with rng
Same here, man 😢
Man ... I had to bow out at the boss ...I feel u
@xFluffyDevilx same here my team and I were noobing it up on what weapon to use for dmg also where to stand for dmg seeing as the floor is lava
Same, wasn't able to even prep for contest mode cause of work
@@fenixstorm2165 sleeper/levi's/grand overture work best, my team ran triple speakers and wells, with weakening and radiant we had consistent dmg and well up on the oil tank at all times
1:47 how that abomination died had me dying too
Run it with osomancy and you have infinite ammo. The shatters seem to proc the ammo so you freeze shoot they shatter and ignite and you get ammo back. It's great
I think catalyst has been datamined and it's just a chance to get ammo back in the mag after kills on slowed and frozen targets
Not kills but hits
This version of icebreaker is so cool!
Looks like Ice Breaker was made with GMs in mind.
You could use stasis warlock melee with a bait and switch gl and hit melee>icebreaker>kinetic>b&s gl
Icebreaker + blastwave striders is so much fun and rarely run out of icebreaker ammo. Ignitions from crystals was a 10/10 decision
Some people dont get it. This is a AD clearing sniper, not a total DPS weapon. I have been using this, and chain explosions clear everything near a precision kill with additional explosions, its awesome like acandesence on steriods. Bungie did a really good job with re release.
Just got done completing the catalyst defeat and it’s such a nice little icing on the cake especially for stasis build. Not too OP yet not too underpowered. Bungie found a sweet spot.
i think this build gets infinitely better with the rocket-assisted sidearm coming from Iron Banner, since that will roll with chill clip... much easier to make sure bosses are frozen
Bleak Watcher + one shot of chill clip sidearm shot = frozen --> switch to Ice breaker = shatter + ignition damage with every shot
Pocket infinity revive next pls
personally I could see this being a very good option with a rocket sidearm for ad clear
Ran this on stasis Titan and it was great. A LOT of fun and nearly unlimited ammo
Can't wait to run this with the stasis rocket sidearm
Ill never forget sitting in cheese spots with this badboy in D1 in order to solo nightfalls. Good times.
For solo you can use it as a swap dps weapon, sorta like izzy rocket
Just got it on my first try. Did the dungeon with it. And did 5M on the Final Boss with it.
Bro we still got a whole catalyst which might make it a DPS monster
(It doesnt)
just use still hunt
@@randomroIIsstill hunt is so boring
@@randomroIIsstill hunt is only good on 1 class
@@kyledea187mdkjr5 and still does more DPS than ice, not good for dps
im using ice breaker with lucky pants and edge transit and that build just cooks you have so much damage all the time and consistant add clear and high health targets clearing and thats before using abilites you can pair with so many subclasses
What does the catalyst do?
Killing frozen targets have a chance to refund a round.
@@Doyleseansenoir its hitting slowed/frozen targets
It came out this week cuh give it a sec 💀
Guardians make their own ammo.
its not for anything dps, just use it in gm against champ or elite then swap to something.
Got it from regular drop last night! Lets goooooooo
Looks dope!
I quit contest mode due to burn out then got it first try.
Funny thing is even though its not good for dps it kind of is just for being able to generate ammo for special swaps lol
I somehow got this on my 2nd attempt. I thought it would be mid but I was very wrong.
absolutely trying this especially with the catalyst on prismatic warlock. throw down a bleak watcher or two + transcendent grenade
i’m looking to try it with the new bleak domain warlock exotic, especially with IB catalyst. if you’re inside the bleak domain you can shoot enemies to slow them, giving IB more chances of free ammo
Yo if u mix the shatter with some dps heavy rotation that could very well be meta
Calling it now - the catalyst is gonna be Outlaw.
lol got me
Have you tested if the new warlock exotic would give you a freeze for every shot in a dps phase?
Rotation idea: new chill clip double fire gl into icebreaker into apex predator.
I got it on my 2nd run! Plus, we worked towards the catty! I also got 2 of them when it dropped!?
Destroying Stasis Crystals also cause an Ignition
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This is where I would put a comment about how much I like icebreaker IF I HAD IT! lol
Yo, what's wrong with ignition right now ? The damage is falling off very hard on subsequent proc. Like going from 49k down to 3k with my concecration.
I think it’s bugged rn
I bet it could be good in gms
They figured out how get the catylst so u should do update when u get it .
First try on normal. Sometimes Bungie does bless. Rarely though 😌
Calling it now the catalyst is gonna be forthtime the charm since it pulls a bullet from nowhere
Close enough but you get a chance to get an ammo back upon killing a frozen enemy.
@@Kevlar020 hitting slowed or frozen
@@nimrodszocs2795 to be fair, with that weapon, you still mostly kill everything in one shot beside bosses 😅
I wish bungie would stop lying with the perk descriptions. It isn't a chance on kill it is entirely deterministically decided. Chance implies it's random and could not happen as often or happen more often, while in actuality the perk it is perfectly consistent. I genuinely don't understand
Why does that bother you
@@connorshepler132 autism
@@connorshepler132 I have autism or something
Rimecoat Raimant, bait and switch auto loading rocket, nova bomb, hand cannon primary. Stand in the Raiment pool, nova, hit twice with the hand cannon to freeze the boss, switch to Icebreaker to shatter, rocket, back to hand cannon, repeat.
On Prismatic with the shatter and ignition fragment.
Or you could equip cloudstrike and skip most of what u just said. Nothing u do with icebreaker can beat cloudstrike. It's add clear and how you gonna freeze bosses my guy?
@@hoax845 bosses freeze and shatter like anything else, my guy, they just don't get frozen in place. And Cloudstrike isn't as easily put into a damage rotation as something that hits big and then lets you switch to a rocket or grenade launcher. Cloudstrike doesn't have the burst damage this does per shot.
@@Michael-ee4uztheres always gonna be that one moron
They should have kept it as ammo eventually refills not kill based. SMH I don’t want it no more.
Does this have barrier???
I would define this weapon as “fun shit” but not a good weapon
Can you farm the weapon or is it three times a week?
3 times, 1 per character, be sure to do the triumphs to booat the drop rate
@@dayfox96 100% should be farmable
@@dayfox96 thanks 🙏
It will be farmable in 6 months 😂
@@dayfox96 no lol
Not every weapon has to be a boss damage one. I hate that people always look if its killing Bosses fast,if not its trash. 🤬 This us so dumb. Icebreaker is such a cool in between boss phase weapon that i cant put it away.😂
IMO the catalyst should be lead from gold and the RPM should be 60rpm. Let it be a little busted for a little while...
Why would you need lead from gold. It literally generates a bullet every two kills with another weapon.
in a perfect world IB gets a 10000% dmg buff with triple tap and precision instrument 😔😔
But does it sound the same?
You know darn well the whiny PvP'ers will be BEGGING for a nerf for this weapon AS PER USUAL.
Its cool with stasis, other than that, it is worthless. Its a add clear exotic and not meant to dps bosses. Its nostalgia but i like the effect when the original wasnt a dps machine either.
It should have refund ammo on precision hits
That’s what Whisper did many years ago
I think it’s ehh
Hey you are going to have to retest shoot a crystal
having fun in destiny ???
Amen, I’m ngl tho I’ve been running a build with the new hunter exotic and it’s the most fun gameplay I’ve had in months while in onslaught
no
Crazy ikr
@@diegochavira2680yes
Don’t let the elitists hear that F word
Why do you say "things" as "vfings"
Do you have to get kills yourself to restore ammo? I can easily see this being a problem with other players/not getting ammo back
Kills or assists
D2 is so dead to me, after playing from day one until a few months ago. Crucible and Trials pool is tiny. You need a fireteam for everything. I really hope bungie makes a new game.
The weapon is mid.
How are you doing damage testing without the catalyst that improves total damage though?
By doing it without the catalyst? Sounds pretty self explanatory.
Catalyst is just mulligan with stasis affected targets
It's so weird how they tied leveling up your journey rank to this exotic. Was lucky to get one 2nd run but come on Bungo
I’ve seen a theory that icebreaker was probably meant to be in the pass originally and something internally made it be the dungeon exotic but I do hope they change the step to the grenade launcher
First for once!
Bungo are the kings of recycling old stuff, and their players are suckers who gladly accept it, along with being fine with content they paid for being vaulted, seasons/dlc's being lackluster, etc, etc.
Exactly what I was thinking, nearly all the comments are coping hard. This sniper is irrelevant when you have stillhunt, cloudstrike, whisper, izanagi’s, etc etc. Straight to the vault with this version of icebreaker smh…
You’re one of those suckers
@@DMNATRDM as someone who uses every gun in the game having a new option makes the game fun for me while constantly using Meta stuff can make the game stale
And you don't think bout people actually enjoying this stuff? Fine your opinion is just an opinion. Others like thag
It’s a sniper with automatic shoot to loot and low reserves. It’s not icebreaker, just has it’s skin.
well we were never gonna get THE icebreaker because its perk was so busted, that's why i was surprised when they said they were bringing it back because like with hawkmoon i knew they were gonna change it substantially
Uhh… original icebreaker only had 6 ammo capacity so this new ice breaker actually has larger reserves. Plus it’s ammo regeneration is nothing like shoot to loot. It’s just instead of waiting 7 seconds to regen 1 ammo, you get kills with other weapons to regen ammo, which is better in most situations. Plus the explosions on kill are still there. This seems pretty like icebreaker to me and not just a low reserves sniper with shoot to loot.
Absolute shit take
Хуета... It's a waste of exotic slot, basically another weapon just to throw into the vault and forget about it, till they will re-work it again...
Nice oldschool Time 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉