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  • @Manather
    @Manather  2 місяці тому +10

    .5 guide can be found here: ua-cam.com/video/8bgHfOcVMcI/v-deo.html

  • @TheWingsco
    @TheWingsco 2 місяці тому +46

    Dear mr frost man, your guides are precise, easy to learn and fun to watch. Thank you for all your work and dedication to this class and specc!

    • @Xivuarath-p4o
      @Xivuarath-p4o Місяць тому +6

      as a new player this is not easy to learn whatsoever. ive been in stormwind for over 2 hours. i was doing more dps with cms crit aoe in dragonflight

    • @foreskinmcfatnutsjr
      @foreskinmcfatnutsjr Місяць тому

      @@Xivuarath-p4odid you find a simpler video?

  • @noridesleft
    @noridesleft Місяць тому +2

    Sick guide, straight forward and clear

  • @moo349
    @moo349 2 місяці тому +6

    Thanks for the vid! Like you said, really disappointed that they didnt incorporate S3 DF 4 piece set bonus into the tree. Love the GS playstyle and it feels REALLY bad to hold onto it rather than sending it. Also, love the WA additions for Excess Fire and Frost! I hope they fix/buff Frostfire. Anyways, keep up the great work brother!

  • @exclusivegg6071
    @exclusivegg6071 2 місяці тому +3

    Really love your guides and watched them multiple times. I would really enjoy having the addon/weakaura that shows which abilities you pressed so I can better follow the gameplay examples :)

  • @simonchoe9192
    @simonchoe9192 Місяць тому

    Thank you for always researching and uploading videos

  • @Fannykrodel
    @Fannykrodel 2 місяці тому +7

    Man I just feel so fkn stupid, even after watching videos and reading about how to play spellslinger frost my brain still can’t process wtf to do

    • @Fannykrodel
      @Fannykrodel 2 місяці тому +1

      ´but can i basically just play the regular rotation but as soon as those snowfall wa's shine blue or purple i just cxast ice lance?

  • @aandrenery
    @aandrenery 29 днів тому

    Honestly, found your channel by accident but you made me keep insisting on my Mage. Great content, gonna watch the fire one now.
    Cheers

  • @YeQiux
    @YeQiux 2 місяці тому

    Thanks as always mr manather for your time and effort !

  • @rey40
    @rey40 Місяць тому +11

    Hey man I really love your videos! May I suggest using the addon that shows the order in which yo press each ability? (Other streamers used it and is helpful!)

    • @Srousers1
      @Srousers1 Місяць тому +6

      YES PLEASE! Otherwise Im not able to learn this...... I have no clue what you are pressing, super hard to follow you.

  • @Vognyk325
    @Vognyk325 2 місяці тому

    great guides dude! and thnx for sharring your profiles and etc. This is helpful.

  • @chadnikolaus8793
    @chadnikolaus8793 2 місяці тому +6

    Long time Mage here, and I'm finding the SS Frost to be bloated and weird. For one thing, Winter's Chill and Fingers of Frost should be merged just to make the spec more simple. Then these Splinter things are a bit annoying. I have Weak Auras that tell me how many Spinters there are, and when Winter's Chill is applied. But I don't know... kind of annoying spec now with too many spells put in there over the years and now these Splinters. Anyway, excellent guide. I still like it because Mage is always fun, but yeah.

    • @dakotajalbert6119
      @dakotajalbert6119 2 місяці тому +2

      i wish we could just go back to shadowlands frost mage

    • @Telados
      @Telados Місяць тому

      @@dakotajalbert6119 Just give us back actual choice instead of forcing one build on us

    • @Leisanityy
      @Leisanityy Місяць тому

      what weakaura are you using to count splinters

  • @lolcat5303
    @lolcat5303 16 днів тому

    Thanks, the WoWhead guides, while good, can be a bit tricky to decipher at times. I'm glad frostifre is getting nearer to spellslinger. I'm not a huge fan of spellslinger frost. I'm really enjoying sunfury arcane but frostfire feels fun to play and it's good to have something to swap out to from time to time.

  • @skylermarcotte2012
    @skylermarcotte2012 17 днів тому

    i cant figure out how to get the bar you have in the middle of your screen showing how many stacks you have, can you help?
    thanks

  • @chrisbenn
    @chrisbenn Місяць тому +2

    Nice video! :)
    But Why ignor Ice nova? Is it not good for casting Comet Storm and then Ice Nova so when the Comets hit, the targets are frozen? Cone of cold have smaller range then Ice Nove?

  • @theodororeato5095
    @theodororeato5095 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for the video! :D

  • @voiddyn
    @voiddyn 2 місяці тому +6

    Thanks for making this guide.
    I really hate that we were sold that it's simply Ice Lances when it's kind of just garbage style of game play.
    Guess I'll be an arcane mage this xpac.

  • @Jesse-jp8tz
    @Jesse-jp8tz 2 місяці тому

    "Hello? welcome to frost mage" love it XD Ty for the good video bro

  • @clarosmamanijhonnyjuniors1346
    @clarosmamanijhonnyjuniors1346 25 днів тому

    Are the splinters that go to random targets at minute 32:20 a problem for pulling where I shouldn't, is there any fix? :(

    • @Manather
      @Manather  25 днів тому

      Nope, blizzard issue

  • @phnxx5301
    @phnxx5301 2 місяці тому +16

    its crazy what wow has become , u need 10 guides and 100 pages to play a class on a decent level

    • @Telados
      @Telados Місяць тому +5

      Frost used to be one of the easiest speccs and now we have this crap

    • @Blackdocks
      @Blackdocks Місяць тому +1

      Coming back from a long break and can't agree lzss

    • @francescopallottino2825
      @francescopallottino2825 Місяць тому +1

      As for any class rotations are much more easily understood when you level up your character and access to some abilities per level so you can test priorities yourself. Once you ding 80 and have a good grasp at your character then and only then you can appreciate guides like this one. Unfortunately ppl still use to character boost and struggle to understand all of the abilities at the same time

    • @frozenIRL
      @frozenIRL 19 днів тому

      You really dont . Why you just flat out lie ?

    • @phuryzz
      @phuryzz 10 днів тому

      ​@Telados the players asked for change.

  • @Cyoon417
    @Cyoon417 Місяць тому

    How do I setup that WA to show purple when splinters are going to come up? the aura also disappears when I'm not in combat

  • @gatopan2558
    @gatopan2558 Місяць тому

    quick question, if playing spellslinger, the play style is orb and fingers of frost, which are all instant, why would haste be required aside from the global cooldown reduction?, is everything is instant is way better to get up to 33% crit and around 40-45% mastery filling up with haste. Or am I missing something?

  • @stelioskaxiris8982
    @stelioskaxiris8982 2 місяці тому +5

    Damn spellslinger is fun af. Finally a more interesting version, just hope they tracked splinterstorm somehow without the use of WA.

  • @Ivan-yl2gr
    @Ivan-yl2gr 2 місяці тому +3

    R1 frost mage here from previous m+ - and played only frostmage for 10 years. I just dont understand how to play around winter's chill debuff that is randomly gained from splinterstorm. I tried 5 hours to make custom WA that would suit me and even the WA you mentioned does not fit me well, makes me more confused/hesitating than not haveing it. Lets say I completely ignore/miss everything going on with splinterstorm and just use icelance like I normally would, when I have proc or after flurry - Basically just playing frost like spellinger does not exist. What will my dps loss be? Many time they overlapp anyway meaning you have finger of frost proc when you get winter chill debuff from the splinterstorm, so it seems it might not be crazy high dmg loss. Thanks!

    • @farawayranger8489
      @farawayranger8489 2 місяці тому

      pretty sure he said its a 20% dps loss if you mess up with ice lancing the purple splinterstorm procs

  • @Frostgaming335
    @Frostgaming335 Місяць тому

    hi
    i got 720k dps 6 minutes fight dummy ST
    but my top2 dps ability is glacial spike (not orb like in your video).
    Is that bad?
    I'm trying to use it only when can't use lance

  • @wintertale.
    @wintertale. 2 місяці тому +7

    I need a spelltrack to watch your rotation in your example gameplay plz!

    • @felipevargassepulveda1785
      @felipevargassepulveda1785 Місяць тому

      do you find any?

    • @amelvin32
      @amelvin32 Місяць тому

      The content creator has to have one running when he streams his rotation.​@@felipevargassepulveda1785

  • @gabrielfournier6131
    @gabrielfournier6131 Місяць тому

    In dungeon, when you get to bosses, do you go back to ST rotation and cast glacial spike? And do you cast glacial spike when there’s less then 4 target?

  • @rickykullin9672
    @rickykullin9672 9 днів тому

    Freaky shoe transmog u got there sir.

  • @powerplay074
    @powerplay074 26 днів тому

    Finally learned arcane its actually the easiest spec. Spellslinger frost is carpal tunnel lance spam nightmare but still clunky. Frostfire is ok but underperforming. Arcane is simple but engaging and rewarding.

  • @KingJerbear
    @KingJerbear 2 місяці тому

    I'm new to retail and leveled up to 80 as Frostfire, had a ton of fun. Just took like a general AOE type setup without Ray of Frost or Glacial Spike. What a shame to hear that Frostfire is bugged and significantly weaker. Either way, I stumbled across your Arcane guide video and have been trying to learn that the last couple days, having a lot of fun. I can see why the Spellslinger setup is so strong. Actually looks kinda fun where Frozen Orb is randomly coming off cooldown. I may have to check this build out too once I'm done scratching the arcane itch. It seems like the gear priority would be pretty similar? Probably Crit > Mastery for Frost vs the other way for Arcane. Either way I'm not looking to be a top player on the server, just trying to have fun, and your guides have been invaluable. Thanks much

  • @amelvin32
    @amelvin32 Місяць тому

    So if i have 4 out of 5 isecicles, do i frost bolt with flurry, or just flurry and then glacial spike?

    • @Manather
      @Manather  Місяць тому

      1st if you are spellslinger, and 2nd if you are frostfire

  • @taylordaniel797
    @taylordaniel797 Місяць тому

    The WA kinda throws me off, seems like it updates when the Ice Lance hits the target not when you cast so theres a delay. Am I right?

  • @M.A.K.B
    @M.A.K.B Місяць тому

    Unable to import the ui profiles etc atm i just get alot of lua errors? also whats the snow crystals you got in the middle?

  • @poroasmr
    @poroasmr 2 місяці тому

    thanks so much once again!

  • @Nn-cm5bq
    @Nn-cm5bq 14 днів тому

    could you please explain the frozen orb tracker so i can tell every 3 seconds we track fingers of frost but how do i stack the combo ? i think im doing it to fast or wrong thanks for the vid

    • @Nn-cm5bq
      @Nn-cm5bq 14 днів тому

      or is it just how many procs of frozen orb i weaved in

    • @Manather
      @Manather  14 днів тому

      Combo thing doesnt matter, its just aesthetic (its for how many orbs youve sent without freezing winds dropping). The tracker is mainly for you to know if you would be able to ice lance as your next spell rather than starting a frostbolt cast

    • @deedud
      @deedud 14 днів тому

      thanks man! thats what i thought hehe.. dude i struggle sooo much with frost, i execute the aoe rota quite good on dummies (5 targets) ill pump 2.8-3 mio burst with 605 but after that it falls to 1.8… do these numbers feel weak gs wise?
      rather struggle with single target idk even watched your guide arcane feels so much smoother and i execute it better

  • @aeryluna
    @aeryluna 2 місяці тому +5

    Time to finally learn arcane I guess

    • @Manather
      @Manather  2 місяці тому +2

      Arcane guide out tmmrw lol

    • @phnxx5301
      @phnxx5301 Місяць тому

      @@aeryluna if u think frost is annoying to follow dont go arcane😅

    • @ArcticMoose17
      @ArcticMoose17 Місяць тому

      @@phnxx5301 nah arcane is way easier and more intuitive than spellslinger frost

    • @powerplay074
      @powerplay074 26 днів тому

      Lmao yes frost is now awful to play

  • @aeryluna
    @aeryluna 2 місяці тому +3

    Apologies if I missed it, but do you know how much % difference frostfire is? Spellslinger sounds crazy annoying

    • @Manather
      @Manather  2 місяці тому +3

      About 15% in st last I checked

    • @aeryluna
      @aeryluna 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Manather wtf, that isnt even close

    • @Mduffy-yo6rb
      @Mduffy-yo6rb 2 місяці тому

      @@aeryluna It might change as we get closer to raid. But Spellslinger isn't even worth playing IMO

  • @WBPANDA-xt6wc
    @WBPANDA-xt6wc 2 місяці тому

    the best guide in youtube
    ty for guide

  • @nacho8090
    @nacho8090 Місяць тому

    Can you explain in simple terms the reason we cast some glacial spikes during our ice lance spam? I cannot understand it for the life of me

  • @majazar4505
    @majazar4505 Місяць тому

    Hello @Manather love the video

    • @Manather
      @Manather  Місяць тому +1

      Frostfire is easier to pick up, and the ST rotation doesnt change between m+ and raid build, just ca nt use the talents you dont have like ray of frost for instance.

    • @majazar4505
      @majazar4505 Місяць тому

      @@Manather Awesome, thank you 😊even though spellslinger is better I think I will play frostfire just to get comfortable with playing a mage

  • @joshuaford7043
    @joshuaford7043 Місяць тому +1

    So what was the difference between purple and blue snowflakes?

  • @Ghstface1222
    @Ghstface1222 19 днів тому

    Hi I'm a noob frost mage, what build would you suggest for Delves? Thanks!

    • @Manather
      @Manather  19 днів тому

      Frostfire M+ build

  • @wwams9513
    @wwams9513 Місяць тому +1

    Question Manather although its been a few days since video release.
    You don't ice nova or frost nova when you use comet storm anymore?

  • @raph3323
    @raph3323 Місяць тому

    Thank you for your guide !
    If I understood correctly, when weak aura is purple, we need to spam ice lance also ?
    No comet storm or glacial spike if there are procs and weak aura is blue or purple ?
    Sorry I’m french and I try to learn english at the same time haha

    • @Manather
      @Manather  Місяць тому +2

      About 1 gcd after your weakaura turns purple you should use ice lance. So you can use frozen orb/comet storm and then ice lance to fill that gap. Comet storm should be used if the weakaura is purple.

    • @raph3323
      @raph3323 Місяць тому

      @@Manather Ok thank you so much ! So much thing to track I understand now why you say it’s not quite funny to play it…

  • @sonnywhite1337
    @sonnywhite1337 2 місяці тому +3

    I actually like the spellslinger/ice lance approach. Last time I watched a frost guide from you it was during DF and I ended up not playing WoW because it sounded so compilcated like I was back in College and learning for an exam or something. Much too compilcated. Thats my opinion at least. Thx for the guide mate!

    • @Manather
      @Manather  2 місяці тому

      Very fair, I tend to get pretty in the weeds too about things so I definitely make things sound a little more complex than they are, but happy to have you back interested in frost.

    • @Kooriaisu
      @Kooriaisu 2 місяці тому +4

      id argue this is more complicated except not by intention which is very cringe if you ask me

  • @schwegburt3002
    @schwegburt3002 11 днів тому +1

    Nice guide but dial back all of the "It's tough" comments with Spellslinger. We got the point the first 2-3 times you said it. It's wasted air and time afterwards.

  • @simonkyl2
    @simonkyl2 Місяць тому

    What addon are you using for the flurry icons on screen?

  • @777ok777
    @777ok777 2 місяці тому +1

    anyone have the feelings that (Time Anomaly) isn't worth in dungs and M+??
    it works more often at the last second of the pull, while we running to next pack.
    Does (Inspired Int) 3% flat intellect doing any good in TWW??

    • @Manather
      @Manather  2 місяці тому

      its quite a bit worse than TA, TA will get better with m+ when we spend a lot more time in combat.

  • @RED--01
    @RED--01 2 місяці тому

    Hey bro let me ask..if in m+ we kinda rarely touch on the ice spike.
    Wouldn’t it be better to have that frozen beam with the aoe and the extra dmg instead?
    Good af for single and very good for aoe..
    Or am I trippin

    • @Manather
      @Manather  2 місяці тому

      Ray requires 3 talent points to get what you are talking about, Glacial Spike is 1 talent point. Its also not worth casting ray in AOE and you use it even less than GS since we dont use ray at all in IV. So no, not worth it.

    • @RED--01
      @RED--01 2 місяці тому

      @@Manather Thank you man!

  • @LemmyHQ
    @LemmyHQ 2 місяці тому

    Been leveling with glacial spike just for fun... Does the shatter combo (spike>flurry>lance>lance) not work with glacial spike anymore? I feel like my glacial spikes are hitting for the same numbers as if I just casted it by it's self, but if I flurry first, it hits for double. Been a bit since I played so this could have changed in dragonflight and I might just be living under a rock lol

    • @Manather
      @Manather  2 місяці тому +2

      Still works, just cant be right next to/inside the mob when you GS -> flurry. Which often happens when leveling as you have aggro.

    • @LemmyHQ
      @LemmyHQ 2 місяці тому

      @@Manather Ah, yep that's what's been happening lol thanks for the response and thanks for the guides! :)

  • @tyronelagore1479
    @tyronelagore1479 27 днів тому

    "You're never really expected to play frostfire and it's just worse than spellslinger. Let me show you frostfire first, and dedicate the next 13 minutes of this video explaining frostfire."

    • @Manather
      @Manather  27 днів тому

      People do want to play it regardless. Not showing it would be silly. And guess what? I have the sections of the video shown on the timeline, you can just skip past it if you dont care for it after hearing that disclaimer.

    • @DailyShit.
      @DailyShit. 25 днів тому

      Agree. Frostfire looks way more fun and less janky (Splinters)
      Now they buffed it and hopefully it will be better then SS one day and I can switch. The Frostfire part could be at the end though.

  • @fabiocosta5160
    @fabiocosta5160 Місяць тому

    Hi, do you cast blizzard on target with a macro? If yes can you teach plz.
    Thanks

    • @Manather
      @Manather  Місяць тому

      You cant

    • @fabiocosta5160
      @fabiocosta5160 Місяць тому

      @@Manather ok, i ask because i didnt saw the green area when you cast it.
      Many thanks for the tips, you win a new follower.

    • @sokarr4779
      @sokarr4779 Місяць тому

      @@fabiocosta5160 The best you can do @Cursor macros with Blizzard.
      #showtooltip
      /cast [@Cursor] Blizzard
      That will save you clicking.

    • @lawlawz1
      @lawlawz1 Місяць тому

      I was wondering the same too , how to cast blizzard without the green area thing on the floor ​@fabiocosta5160

  • @Boatnuts14
    @Boatnuts14 Місяць тому

    sorry im very new, what is the add on that does the two snowflakes? thanks

    • @Manather
      @Manather  Місяць тому +1

      It is a weakaura. Weakauras are a WoW addon that allow you to create or import a lot of custom things. For instance its what I use to create the bars for my cd uptime, to show icons when abilities are up, do complex calculations and display numbers on my screen if i want. Very widely used in the WoW community. The advantage of them is you can have information you want from the game displayed in a format that best suits you. So if you have the WA addon you can go to wago.io (I linked the snowflake weakaura in the pinned comment) and copy the import and then import it in game after typing /wa.

  • @1smiciklas1
    @1smiciklas1 18 днів тому

    since in aoe in SS its not worth casting glacial spike,should we just spec out of that talent then?

    • @Manather
      @Manather  18 днів тому

      Nope, its still very strong in ST and low target cleave

  • @side.-4828
    @side.-4828 2 місяці тому

    I'm only about 3 minutes into the vid, so I don't know if you'll mention this, but an addition to the “frozen targets” is that Glacial Spike also freezes the target. The effect lasts for 4 seconds and also counts towards the damage multiplier of Ice Lance. :D

    • @Manather
      @Manather  2 місяці тому +8

      ice lance will travel faster than glacial spike however, so if you GS -> ice lance you wont shatter the ice lance.

  • @asinluka
    @asinluka 2 місяці тому

    Would it be worth taking ROF along with Cryopathy + Splintering Ray in M+, now that they buffed the latter by 5%? Assuming that you can shatter the AoE damage after Cone of Cold rotation? Or is it a huge dps loss? Cause in return I'd have to give up on GA, FF and DC. I'm not a huge fan of the Frostbolt spam early into IV so that's why I'm curious if this is a viable alternative.

    • @Manather
      @Manather  2 місяці тому

      Huge dps loss, you only use DC with frostfire and frostfire just isnt really worth it to play in M+ tbh, spellslinger AOE is basically just good old frost aoe with ice lance spam.

    • @asinluka
      @asinluka 2 місяці тому

      @@Manather I see... Appreciate it! Hopefully they tune/fix bugs for Frostfire by the time season 1 starts, cause I don't find Spellslinger very appealing tbh

  • @harpal34
    @harpal34 Місяць тому

    I just got back into the game, last time I played was shadowlands season 3 where I was top 20 on tich. Thank you for making these videos, would you ever consider making some fire mage content?
    Thanks for the great information on frost :)

  • @joshuawoodard6998
    @joshuawoodard6998 2 місяці тому +2

    Both frost and arcane require wa now. I can't believe arcane feels better than frost now. Perma veins was better than the rework.... And the hero talents are boring.

  • @TheCrome2thadome
    @TheCrome2thadome 2 місяці тому

    Was this on the PTR or something? My gear is very comparable to his if not slightly better at this point and my my ice lance does around 550k, not even close to what his are doing.

    • @Manather
      @Manather  2 місяці тому

      It was on beta

  • @cavsjm4422
    @cavsjm4422 Місяць тому

    For Frost Fire, are you ever casting flurry on it's own without a frostfire bolt or glacial spike? In single target it seems like no, in AoE it was hard to tell, but at a few points it looked like you had 0 charges of flurry. Do you just sit on 2 charges for long periods of time generally?

    • @Manather
      @Manather  Місяць тому

      in st yes, if you have 4 icicles. In AOE also yes, because we dont cast gs (at least with tier set), so you just use it as a filler below empowered ice lances unless you will overcap excess frost.

    • @cavsjm4422
      @cavsjm4422 Місяць тому

      @@Manather thank you for the reply. Great mage content as always!

  • @michaellastname7200
    @michaellastname7200 2 місяці тому

    FIRST! I have been waiting for this video... switching from fire to frost this season and have no idea how it works.

  • @Bluefooted23
    @Bluefooted23 2 місяці тому

    Can someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like the annoying part of trying to time ice lances is basically only in ST. In AoE it seems like you just send ice lance constantly because you're always having procs.

  • @kikoredog
    @kikoredog Місяць тому

    for M+ ss frost, why even spec GS then? could move the point to subzero for m+?

    • @Manather
      @Manather  Місяць тому

      Because it is significant ST dps. If you are hitting a lot of freezable mobs you could move the gs point to frostbite and the splintering cold points to subzero, but I'd only do that for spellslinger and its still a 5% dps loss in ST for a gain only present on freezable targets.

  • @tottithomas
    @tottithomas 22 дні тому

    hello one question
    Why flurry at 4 icicles?

    • @bluey1695
      @bluey1695 21 день тому

      So you don't waste an icicle, if you do frostbolt>Flurry at 4 you will waste an icicle that could have contributed to another glacial spike. So at 4 you just send a naked flurry because it will generate just 1 icicle and then you can cast glacial after.

  • @wintertale.
    @wintertale. 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for the guide! I have a question for you. When I fight against 5 targets, and my current target isn't fronen and the others are frozen, I cast flurry > Glacial spike > frost nova(or Ice nova) for all Glacial Spike critical. Is this a good idea for higher overall dps or it's overall dps loss?

    • @KurrieSauce
      @KurrieSauce 2 місяці тому

      glacial spike doesn't explode on other targets anymore since that was just a set bonus from the previous season. Now glacial spike will only hit 2 targets, assuming u take Splitting Ice which you should, so that's why he said don't use glacial spike on more than 3 targets.

    • @wintertale.
      @wintertale. 2 місяці тому

      @@KurrieSauce thanks!

  • @CarolsFerrao
    @CarolsFerrao 2 місяці тому

    Thank you so much for this. Please do one for arcane T_T It seems like nobody can explain it without making it more confusing than never.

    • @Manather
      @Manather  2 місяці тому +2

      Arcane one was just posted actually lol

    • @CarolsFerrao
      @CarolsFerrao 2 місяці тому

      @@Manather you're a life saver! As always ❤️

  • @slimfastsubaru2043
    @slimfastsubaru2043 Місяць тому

    Is spellslinger still jank? Im lvling frost mage and enjoying frostfire hero talents with the intent to switch to spellslinger since its better. Tbh video is making me want to drop mage altogether.

    • @Manather
      @Manather  Місяць тому +1

      Its getting fixed in a month, you can just play frostfire till then.

  • @snuggoe
    @snuggoe 2 місяці тому +18

    jesus christ splinger looks so awkward to play lmao

  • @sandor93
    @sandor93 28 днів тому

    hi Manather, could you share your keybindings?

    • @Manather
      @Manather  28 днів тому

      You can see them on my bars, not sure what else you are looking for.

  • @arminplatzer1802
    @arminplatzer1802 2 місяці тому

    The Winters chill WA does not show winters chill for me at the start of the pull so the first winters chill appplications are not displayed properly.
    Does anyone else have this problem?

    • @Manather
      @Manather  2 місяці тому

      Yes, it has to do with how the WA is coded. You can go to load conditions and remove the in-combat requirement. And then if you want it hidden out of combat but still function, just go to conditions and add if in combat false then alpha 0%.

    • @arminplatzer1802
      @arminplatzer1802 2 місяці тому

      @@Manather Yeah i noticed, when its always loaded it works properly, but that suggestion with the alpha 0% is perfect thanks man ;)

    • @MrDanni527
      @MrDanni527 2 місяці тому

      I have a issue - i want the WA to always show, but it doesnt, i go into WA --> Conditions --> Alive and in combat, but it still wont show outside combat. What am i doing wrong?

  • @zenechiang8622
    @zenechiang8622 Місяць тому

    Appreciate your fantastic tutorial; I would like to clarify that when we encounter the boss in the dungeon, we use the ST rotation? (under the M+ build)

  • @vwstr8edge
    @vwstr8edge 2 місяці тому +1

    Is it worth cancelling your GS, or anything, if my cute little snow flake turns purple?

  • @cuddleslol
    @cuddleslol 2 місяці тому +1

    This is the content

  • @Vindicator1998
    @Vindicator1998 2 місяці тому

    If I don’t mind no glacial spike, can’t I drop it in spellslinger for an extra talent

    • @Manather
      @Manather  2 місяці тому

      Not without a significant dmg loss in ST and cleave. In m+ if you want more aoe you can drop it for frostbite. But again, about a 5% dps loss in ST. You gain an ok amount of aoe if you are hitting freezable targets.

  • @juanpablosarmiento8106
    @juanpablosarmiento8106 Місяць тому

    I feel like a complete weird and crazy man. But i rlly love this playstyle of full uptime, first time playing mage tho

    • @Manather
      @Manather  Місяць тому

      There were more enjoyable forms of it in the past. You can look at my sennarth video from s1 of df to see an example if you want.

  • @aonevo8905
    @aonevo8905 19 днів тому

    The greatest guide ever. By the way, I can't find where are the stats priority in the video. Could you suggest one pls as a frost mage? tyvm in advance.

    • @Manather
      @Manather  19 днів тому

      Haste > crit >= mastery (prio mastery higher if you want to offspec) > vers

    • @aonevo8905
      @aonevo8905 19 днів тому

      @@Manather tyvm

  • @radiergummikalle
    @radiergummikalle 12 днів тому

    What does Purple Snow Flakes mean ?

    • @Manather
      @Manather  12 днів тому

      dont worry about it, its meaningless come tuesday

  • @danh7397
    @danh7397 24 дні тому

    Frostfire buffs this week! Let us know what you think @Manather

  • @Xivuarath-p4o
    @Xivuarath-p4o Місяць тому

    as a new player im super confused. also why dont you cast orb first for the instant cast blizzard

    • @Manather
      @Manather  Місяць тому

      You generally would in combat, the blizzard before orb is more of sneaking some precast time in and it gets more ticks if you icy veins after placing it.

  • @tomothered
    @tomothered Місяць тому

    Whats better damage wise, spellslinger or frostfire?

    • @Manather
      @Manather  Місяць тому

      spellslinger, in every situation

  • @GnomeHats
    @GnomeHats 2 місяці тому +1

    Why did they do a great job with the frost rework only to dumpster it

  • @sylvesterpedersen171
    @sylvesterpedersen171 Місяць тому +1

    it sucks that the most fun spec/hero combo (frostfire frost) is just not super good.. i do play it in M0 and stuff and for open world, but arcane is just better, well.. for this low content its not really better i feel since people do mega pulls all the time and the aoe from frost is just rly good, but yea... this SS stuff seems stupid

  • @itsKyyyle
    @itsKyyyle 24 дні тому

    Your content is always great, thanks for always being on top of mage stuff. Man frost is not fun at all right now, cannot wait for this stupid SS iteration to die. Like everyone else, I miss the DF season 3 play style…..this random splinter generation shit just ain’t it

  • @SilentKME
    @SilentKME Місяць тому

    Is this still current? Just hit 80 on my mage and way prefer Frostfire.

    • @Manather
      @Manather  Місяць тому +1

      Still current. Just play frostfire would be my advice.

    • @SilentKME
      @SilentKME Місяць тому

      @@Manather Thanks. I tried both out on the dummies and I do more DPS as FF just because I'm better at it. Spellslinger confuses the shit out of me so the DPS tanks.

  • @psz90
    @psz90 2 місяці тому

    Great guide as always.. When guide on fire? Or is it just down so bad no one will play it.. We need some fire parses to get it buffed

  • @comex667
    @comex667 Місяць тому

    L as a keybind? how long are your fingers

    • @Manather
      @Manather  Місяць тому

      its 100% a mouse button remacro'd

  • @skitzzlr1268
    @skitzzlr1268 23 дні тому

    is this still good?

  • @Barlylol
    @Barlylol 2 місяці тому

    Not trying to rush you or anything, but are you making arcane and fine anytime soon? Also, in your opinion what is the best spec for ST and M+?

    • @Manather
      @Manather  2 місяці тому +5

      Arcane is currently very overtuned. Fire is very undertuned. Stands for all content. I'll probably make arcane soon, we'll see about fire. Might make arcane this weekend.

    • @Manather
      @Manather  2 місяці тому +1

      Arcane guide is out now

  • @Venomskye00
    @Venomskye00 3 дні тому

    Why did they get rid of the elemental the frost mage pet :(

    • @Manather
      @Manather  2 дні тому

      They made it far more relevant than it has been in the past by tying it to icy veins.

  • @mehrdadpirak8518
    @mehrdadpirak8518 Місяць тому

    for aoe or m+ spellslincer is better or frostfire?

  • @allstar_
    @allstar_ Місяць тому

    so is GS more like a filler now?

  • @Glitch.-_-.
    @Glitch.-_-. Місяць тому +1

    what addons are u using?

  • @GinjeetX
    @GinjeetX Місяць тому

    thanks for the guide, really good info but why is your character bare foot? 🤨

  • @AvidPup1l
    @AvidPup1l 2 місяці тому

    Spellslinger seems like it doesn't want glacial spike (thematically), it'd add to the theme of icicles & splinters firing constantly so you get to be a magic gatling gun. I suppose I need to still take GS? Phooie

    • @Manather
      @Manather  2 місяці тому +1

      No other talents to compete with it really. Its strong for 1 point.

    • @AvidPup1l
      @AvidPup1l 2 місяці тому

      @@Manather true true!

  • @CoreMsK
    @CoreMsK 2 місяці тому

    GS and RoF in the same build? Let me try tomorrow but idk...

    • @Manather
      @Manather  2 місяці тому

      Was that way since the rework.

  • @DrakeDude1
    @DrakeDude1 2 місяці тому +1

    What wins out in M+, frost or arcane?

  • @rickhorde
    @rickhorde 2 місяці тому

    how reset the frozen orb always in the openings?

    • @CoreMsK
      @CoreMsK 2 місяці тому

      Cone of cold talent, 45s CD on CoC but reset comet, and orb so too strong in AoE openers and CoC freeze all targets for 6 secs

    • @iiRaawrz
      @iiRaawrz 2 місяці тому

      If you’re talking about the single target opening the reset is RNG.

  • @aonevo8905
    @aonevo8905 2 місяці тому

    Hellou Manather. Do you also play in privated server like Firestorm?

    • @Manather
      @Manather  2 місяці тому

      Nope

    • @aonevo8905
      @aonevo8905 2 місяці тому

      @@Manather then someone named the char after you. He he is the top tier player of the server lol.

  • @joshuawoodard6998
    @joshuawoodard6998 2 місяці тому

    How far behind is non gs version of spellslinger?

    • @Manather
      @Manather  2 місяці тому +1

      7% for my character atm, probably less once we get full geared but still very significant. There are just no good talents to take, most are frostbolt/IV talents which is anti-synergistic with spellslinger.

  • @chocobojoe6906
    @chocobojoe6906 2 місяці тому +4

    am i the only one thats excited to play spellslinger frost? i think it's been fun so far :)

    • @farawayranger8489
      @farawayranger8489 2 місяці тому +2

      its just boring essentially, frostfire you at least use your entire kit

    • @Nhouyengah
      @Nhouyengah 2 місяці тому +1

      I might play it raids when progging and learning fights but once I've mastered those fights I'm certainly playing Arcane, I want to play mage not Hunter...

    • @stelioskaxiris8982
      @stelioskaxiris8982 2 місяці тому +1

      Ye feels great!

    • @ironsideeve2955
      @ironsideeve2955 2 місяці тому +1

      I hate it... plays like BM😊

    • @courtneyvandermade358
      @courtneyvandermade358 2 місяці тому

      @@Nhouyengahso then you will have to get two sets of raid gear… lmao