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@@MickeyMouse-el5bk I was joking. Reduce your frequency to training each bodypart only once a week and training full body so you are not overlapping and overworking your tendons. Start with very light weights, then slowly increase your frequency to 2 workouts a week, then split up your training. Increase your weights very slowly. I found using a bands and warming up my elbow with extensions before I press helped with my tendonitis. Also you need to do rotator cuff exercises before pressing otherwise you will have shoulder issues eventually.
What is changing massively my delt workouts is having learned to contract them with very light weight. This made me learn how to isolate delts even more and make sure they are the ones doing the work. Now I squeeze them even before the rep starts and do all the positive portion squeezing the delt throughout all the range. I am finally getting the results I never managed to get.
That could be summed up as the most fundamental principle/requirement for muscle growth and body building. Having the ability to contract the targeted muscles as best as one can. Without this progress is suboptimal and takes far too much time than it should.
@@naazahs9045 Dr. Weider, why is your name implanted every where on my Workout Equipment. It should be blank. Agreed there was assistance and that non-black (underground) Lineage was able to flow into a teenage vein with workout apparatus and that's just awesome.
"during your training, your focus should be on building muscle and building strength; it doesn't always have to be a demonstration of it" Very well put, wish I'd realised this sooner.
My delts are my weakest muscle group and have always lagged behind the rest of my physique development. Starting with side and rear delt exercises has definitely helped me make gains recently.
I've been doing the pre-fatiguing before I get into Barbell overheads (with surfing the rack with lateral raises and light upright rows) and my shoulder development has improved significantly. Love the videos!
Love these new videos of workout routines that are straight to the point. I did your arm workout yesterday and the pump was insane. Thanks man God bless
Peter, I must say, I am absolutely in agreement with your views on old school bodybuilding. My wife and I own a women’s fitness club in Phila, and she has transformed so many women with the same principles u practice.. low cardio, a lot of weight training…. Thank you for all the amazing content. I am going to watch every video!!
Wow... Pay attention here fellas, absolute *GOLDMINE* of information. Specifically, this video excels in the delivery of finer points and details.I had to rewind a few times to really soak everything in. No unnecessary bullshit jokes, which is nice for once! 👍
Very informative video. 💪I never saw any shoulder change when I did shoulder presses. But when I threw in the side raises and fear fly's high rep. And heavy partials is when the development started. I wish I would have done more of this in the early years of my life. I always would do heavy shoulder presses and I seen no change in the shape. No matter how much weight I did. Sides and rears are a must especially at the beginning of the workout when you're fresh .
Great video. One question, you mentioned the upright row is also good for the traps. But surely you won't reach the RPE required on this excersise for it to grow efficiently? The delts will give out first. Your philosophy regarding the way you start with side delts/upright row before moving into pressing is also shared by Steeve Reeves among others. In his book "building the classic physique the natural way" he suggests starting with the upright row before moving to the behind the neck press and then finish off with rear delt raises. This was the ideal shoulder workout for building a "classic" physique in his opinion
The upright row is always condemned but before one condemns this exercise they should perform it properly and it will result in massive delts ….any exercise when performed improperly can cause injury imo …I’ve been doing upright rows for yrs which helped build nice sculpted delts and have no shoulder issues
Traps are different than shoulders, I prefer to grow shoulders without touching the traps, gives a wider look, my traps somehow grow when I stir my drinks. :/ lol
Nice, pinning this and the back workout to my saved videos. Had been combining side and front delt work with arms and usually put rears on back. Gonna stop being lazy and have a separate day for shoulders. Thanks for the highly informative demonstrations.
Do a drop set with lat raises, even if you use the pink dumbbells. My side delts are a strong point of mine and doing them made it to what it is. Also gives you a sick pump
Thank you for this video brother. After watching a couple of your videos.. I really have to say that I appreciate your no nonsense.. no frills approach to content.
I watched this video Wednesday and incorporated your Techniques into my routine yesterday. I used the Bench at just below vertical. I did the Dumbbell Shoulder Press Lateral Raises Against the wall Upright Rows I felt a really sweet burn in my anterior deltoids just from the Dumbbell Press Then I saw some kids doing Lat Pulls while sitting on a Dumbbell. It reminded me of your commentary of how guys lack the basics and so they resort to new fangled nonsense exercises that could get them hurt.
4:35 “this should be a difficult point and I can’t lift nearly as much as I normally can”…as he casually and methodically shoulder presses 100’s LMAOO guy’s a tank
Great video! Admiration for the advices and the way of training. May I just note to increase the volume of your voice it will improve the quality of the videos. Thank you in advance and I wish you continue provide valuable content!
I think you've given some very sound advice in this video, thank you. I've found better results with shrugs since I started doing them with dumbbells as well. I have occasionally experimented with using a hex trap bar for shrugs previously. I found that I can shrug more with the trap bar, but returned to using dumbbells because I find my form is much better using them for shrugs.
I feel like an absolute dunce watching these vids. Because really, what Peter describes, is actually so common sense, yet its never crossed my mind. Like leaning into a bench to do lateral raises so you don't swing back.
Love your upright row form, I see your still getting scapular retraction, wonderful, one of my favorite variations for really getting the mental queuing for upright rows, is this: ua-cam.com/video/Ne0IvCS7Zro/v-deo.html It's only 1 min 45 sec, I like this even after a heavier set, even if it's done as one set immediately after your finishing set for upright rows. My personal line of thinking with this is that it helps mind-muscle connection for the way you mentally queue the lift. Although it also specifically mimics a close grip upright row, I still like it. As always, your video is great.
Even though I have decent Delts, I never thought about reversing my workout....will definitely try it. Question 1: When doing overhead barbell presses, are you arms straight out or are they at a slight in front angle? Because I heard about Scapula issues when doing straight out presses. Question 2: Will Upright Rows hurt your shoulders? I also read about "Internal Rotation" of the shoulder and impingement while doing those. Love your vids...
Drew63215 make overhead pres with dumbels,they will aloud you to do it in your specific personal,shape of the direction,to be protective and confortable for yours own shoulders,we aren't build the same.Your shoulder will find the corect movement for them.The barbel is to stright and rigid,puting the shoulder in them unproper statement,obeying them in nonconfortable movement resulting wear and tear inbalanced.We aren't robots,to have stright pattern of movements,by construction or seting. -‐------2-Make the upright rows with barbels oriented like you rise 2 suitcases,from down to your armpits but keep your palms faceing your ribs,not internal rotetion.Durring the lift keep palms with the thumbs pointed in front ahead from your body,not"pouring your beer mug".And the elbows will shrough a little to back instead of right straight up vertical.Ti is the best variabile,of this briliant exercise.Salute from Romania.🤚👍😃😃
I have under developed pecs lol my delts would need to be the size of the moon to distract. I like this lateral raise variation and am goin to try it !
....any of the 7 days of the week? ...ok ok just been goofy :) I'm assuming you're asking with what body parts to work shoulders? If so you can work them with any other body part as you like if you programme them accordingly However, you can work front delts on your chest days, as chest also works your front delts, so it's a good combination. You can work, side delts when you work your triceps and rear delts when you work your back. What I do is I work all shoulders together in their own day, shoulders are important. But in the end, it all depends on your weekly workout programme, just make sure you have the right exercises selected for your body and the right weekly set volumes
@@KenanTurkiye lmao. Thank you, I usually try and do it on my day off. My program goes like this. Mon-fri Chest-tris Back-bi’s Legs Chest-tris Back-bi’s All in the afternoon Every morning i do some kind of calisthenics or cardio.
@@keving466 You see per session total volumes are important too, just knowing what parts you train in each day may not be too great to asses the issue. What I mean is the avarage guy can do upto 25 or so sets per session (of all muscle groups/total sets), anything too much more than that especially continually done releases too much cortisol, which reduces protein synthesis, thus hypertrophy/muscle building, and we don't want that. Considering you are training so many days I would be very carefull on which days I would place shoulders, but considering you know your per day set volume it would be easy for you as long as you keep each day below or at about 25 sets. If I am to assume you are below 25 sets per day, I would place front delts in your first chest tri day. Monday Add side delts in your first back-bi day. Tuesday Add rear delts in your legs day. Wednesday Add another side delts in your second chest-tri day. Thursday Add another rear delts in your second back-bi day. Friday This way you'll have 1 day of front delts and 2 days of side and rear delts. Front delts are used much more than side and rear delts and they overgrow much faster the other two, so this 2-to-1 ratio of frequency might be a smart way to get the rear and side delts a balanced growth, as chests already grow front delts. I hope I made sense. ;)
@@keving466 I am pleased all that made sense, english is a second language for me and I use it only on the internet and was tired from a bus trip that took 10 hours, so yeah glad I was of any help. Best wishes.
I’m in the same boat. My shoulders and traps are seriously lagging behind everything else. Maybe I’ll switch things up like this to get the sides and rear delts in a fatigued state before I hit overhead movements.
I'm sorry your Body just doesn't sell like hotcakes...O'Hearn's Film is selling like hotcakes. But difference being not 'a' but the key maker is muscle ingestion, NOT DIGESTION and INGESTION which arguably is a, nope the same stroke of genius. I mean is there a Fire Spirit Element burning in the joints and muscles that turns you into a Sex Lord. Nope, Dopey, in most just a stroke of genius right in time for Donuts and Chocolate milk and sleep time at your Nightingaless.
All I know is shoulder pressing is old school. We’re in a new advanced age! Shoulder laterals are way superior as they don’t destroy your shoulders. Who wants a shoulder replacement????
They are two different exercises with different dynamics, one doesn't negate the other. I do behind the neck barbell presses and does wonders to both my muscles and the hernia at C6. Apparently as contraction strength increases down goes the pain in the associated region. I can't remember the sources to the scientific findings but ever since I learnt about it, I have been doing that, however I do not want huge traps, as traps is one of the regions I am genetically gifted, they grow even when I stir my drink. :/ Anyways, long story short, everyone is different, presses aren't bad actually good for some, begind the neck presses are bad for some and not for others, no cookie cutter decree in this sport.
It's all about anatomy, bone structure, size etc etc. For example I have a huge chest in order for me to hit my upper chest I have to get an even higher incline on the bench, but others complain they get their front delts rather than upper chest, for me I have to go very high on the angle to hit the upper chest. My acromial bone type is type 3 (if I remember correctly) giving a more prominent protrusion on front delts, so front delts grow without doing anything, in fact I do front delt raises on a 15 degree bench so the top part of my front shoulders don't protrude too much causing an imbalance with my rear delts. So many similar examples it'll be a very very long story. So yeah everyone is different and shoulder pressing is not bad for all. Take care.
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Your videos are great! Got something on training with tendonitis?
@@MickeyMouse-el5bk have a pull day
@@jasonsever2031thanks. I tried. But it hurt as well.
@@MickeyMouse-el5bk I was joking. Reduce your frequency to training each bodypart only once a week and training full body so you are not overlapping and overworking your tendons. Start with very light weights, then slowly increase your frequency to 2 workouts a week, then split up your training. Increase your weights very slowly. I found using a bands and warming up my elbow with extensions before I press helped with my tendonitis. Also you need to do rotator cuff exercises before pressing otherwise you will have shoulder issues eventually.
@@jasonsever2031 thnx mate. More or less the way my body told me.
What is changing massively my delt workouts is having learned to contract them with very light weight. This made me learn how to isolate delts even more and make sure they are the ones doing the work. Now I squeeze them even before the rep starts and do all the positive portion squeezing the delt throughout all the range. I am finally getting the results I never managed to get.
That could be summed up as the most fundamental principle/requirement for muscle growth and body building. Having the ability to contract the targeted muscles as best as one can. Without this progress is suboptimal and takes far too much time than it should.
@@naazahs9045 yep. Unless motor units are trained to use the muscle targeted, the muscle will simply not act as it could.
Thanks for sharing man I'm taking notes ❤👍🏿
I can’t flex my shoulders like the biceps for example. When I try flexing shoulders I end up flexing lats or arms, how?
@@naazahs9045 Dr. Weider, why is your name implanted every where on my Workout Equipment. It should be blank. Agreed there was assistance and that non-black (underground) Lineage was able to flow into a teenage vein with workout apparatus and that's just awesome.
"during your training, your focus should be on building muscle and building strength; it doesn't always have to be a demonstration of it"
Very well put, wish I'd realised this sooner.
This guy is a juicer that shouldn’t be imitated
These videos are pure gems. No fancy shots. No shitty pseudo-science.Just straight-up sound advice.
this is one of best channels ive found on UA-cam. Lots of great information explained clearly.
My delts are my weakest muscle group and have always lagged behind the rest of my physique development. Starting with side and rear delt exercises has definitely helped me make gains recently.
I've been doing the pre-fatiguing before I get into Barbell overheads (with surfing the rack with lateral raises and light upright rows) and my shoulder development has improved significantly. Love the videos!
Thanks for always teching us Peter!
Love these new videos of workout routines that are straight to the point. I did your arm workout yesterday and the pump was insane. Thanks man God bless
I'm going to use this as my new shoulder workout with some bent over reverse flyes. Very good vid, Cheers.
Wow this guy is one of the best out there right now. I took a lot of notes. Thanks professor Pete. This masterclass was amazing.
Peter, I must say, I am absolutely in agreement with your views on old school bodybuilding. My wife and I own a women’s fitness club in Phila, and she has transformed so many women with the same principles u practice.. low cardio, a lot of weight training…. Thank you for all the amazing content. I am going to watch every video!!
Wow... Pay attention here fellas, absolute *GOLDMINE* of information. Specifically, this video excels in the delivery of finer points and details.I had to rewind a few times to really soak everything in. No unnecessary bullshit jokes, which is nice for once! 👍
Very informative video. 💪I never saw any shoulder change when I did shoulder presses. But when I threw in the side raises and fear fly's high rep. And heavy partials is when the development started. I wish I would have done more of this in the early years of my life. I always would do heavy shoulder presses and I seen no change in the shape. No matter how much weight I did. Sides and rears are a must especially at the beginning of the workout when you're fresh .
I didn’t know punisher had a UA-cam channel 💯
Great video. One question, you mentioned the upright row is also good for the traps. But surely you won't reach the RPE required on this excersise for it to grow efficiently? The delts will give out first.
Your philosophy regarding the way you start with side delts/upright row before moving into pressing is also shared by Steeve Reeves among others. In his book "building the classic physique the natural way" he suggests starting with the upright row before moving to the behind the neck press and then finish off with rear delt raises. This was the ideal shoulder workout for building a "classic" physique in his opinion
The upright row is always condemned but before one condemns this exercise they should perform it properly and it will result in massive delts ….any exercise when performed improperly can cause injury imo …I’ve been doing upright rows for yrs which helped build nice sculpted delts and have no shoulder issues
I do it with a 45lbs kettlebell.
@@PerceptionVsReality333 can it also be done with a dumb bell?
@@DOMDZ90911
Yeah & a weight plate.
@@PerceptionVsReality333 thanks
@@PerceptionVsReality333 you can do it with a cable , DB , or barbell
Upright rows with the rope attachment on the cable is a goated exercise, it literally hits all 3 heads plus traps with max intensity
No exercise has gotten as much slander as the upright row in my observation
But it's tried and true and I will keep doing it
It can increase chances of impingement
@@OGG619 iMPinGeMenT
sounds like a skill issue lmao
@@maxalaintwo3578 it’s more of a positional issue.
Shrugs with the cable machine has given me the best traps I have ever had
Traps are different than shoulders, I prefer to grow shoulders without touching the traps, gives a wider look, my traps somehow grow when I stir my drinks. :/ lol
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Nice, pinning this and the back workout to my saved videos. Had been combining side and front delt work with arms and usually put rears on back. Gonna stop being lazy and have a separate day for shoulders. Thanks for the highly informative demonstrations.
Bro I neeeed the rear delt video! I spent two years not training them at all and now I’m regretting it!!! 😂😂
New sub. Going to be 60 soon so only dumbbells now and cardio on a treadmill or just walking. Good job. Thank you
Great workout man. I've also found heavy back training to be beneficial for shoulder growth due to the emphasis on the rear delts.
I really like your old school arm workout. I’ll be doing this shoulder day next week!
85lbs seated Dumbbell presses for 8 reps in a fatigued state....very impressive.
I have your 5 Day Mass building program. Day 5 that includes shoulders is great shoulder killer. I’d like to see how you perform the Arnold Press.
Do a drop set with lat raises, even if you use the pink dumbbells. My side delts are a strong point of mine and doing them made it to what it is. Also gives you a sick pump
Thank you for this video brother. After watching a couple of your videos.. I really have to say that I appreciate your no nonsense.. no frills approach to content.
2:00
3:10
I watched this video Wednesday and incorporated your Techniques into my routine yesterday.
I used the Bench at just below vertical.
I did the Dumbbell Shoulder Press
Lateral Raises
Against the wall Upright Rows
I felt a really sweet burn in my anterior deltoids just from the Dumbbell Press
Then I saw some kids doing Lat Pulls while sitting on a Dumbbell. It reminded me of your commentary of how guys lack the basics and so they resort to new fangled nonsense exercises that could get them hurt.
Thanks, Peter. Load of good info for someone like me who's been doing a lot of mistakes in my journey.
Excellent and informative video. Thanks , Peter.
Some great advice in that video, thank you. Also, your physique is absolutely outstanding. Inspirational work 💪🏽
Thanks for everything Peter... been killing my shoulders and really seeing results...
Great videos! Showing the exercise and explaining is sooo educational for us! Thanks keep them coming!
💪💯
Your left side looks more dominant in your right for lateral raises. Great video though can't wait to try
1:43 I legit thought a mosquito was around my ear
Awesome buddy… you look great … cheers Chris & Sam
4:35 “this should be a difficult point and I can’t lift nearly as much as I normally can”…as he casually and methodically shoulder presses 100’s LMAOO guy’s a tank
Are they 100’s for real?
This info is gold🙌🏽
I love your vids Pete, a lot of great advice and references from you. keep it up
Great video! Admiration for the advices and the way of training. May I just note to increase the volume of your voice it will improve the quality of the videos. Thank you in advance and I wish you continue provide valuable content!
Super workout🔥🔥🔥
You are a genius, very unique, keep going 👌
Great content! But it would be nice Pete if you can answer some questions in the comments
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@@PeterKhatcherian thanks Pete!💪🏻👍🏼
I think you've given some very sound advice in this video, thank you. I've found better results with shrugs since I started doing them with dumbbells as well. I have occasionally experimented with using a hex trap bar for shrugs previously. I found that I can shrug more with the trap bar, but returned to using dumbbells because I find my form is much better using them for shrugs.
Physique goals
Wooo!!! I’ve been waiting for this one!!!
Monstrous traps man
Damn bro. Shout out to Dr Abraham Erskine lol
This is exactly the way it should be done my bro 💯🙌🏾🔥 I try to tell’em 😢😅
Outstanding my friend ❤😮😊
The only overhead pressing I do is dumbbells, out wide where I feel them hitting my mid delts a lot
I love these
Thanks for the tips
Nice.....
is his audio going 10 steps ahead in all of his videos ?
Thank You
Delts Delts Deltoidzzzzzzzzzzzz!
My kind of workout ! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Damn it we bench press 800,000,000 the shoulder girdle in Inoutese. And they use it to rip your heart out.
Doing side laterals immediately prior to PBN or OHP sure cuts the weight used for the latter!
I do side delts 1st . I do rear delts with back day Mighty Mike Quinn had me doing that since underhand pull downs for back hits em too
I feel like an absolute dunce watching these vids. Because really, what Peter describes, is actually so common sense, yet its never crossed my mind. Like leaning into a bench to do lateral raises so you don't swing back.
Lu Raise is brutal.
Love your upright row form, I see your still getting scapular retraction, wonderful, one of my favorite variations for really getting the mental queuing for upright rows, is this: ua-cam.com/video/Ne0IvCS7Zro/v-deo.html
It's only 1 min 45 sec, I like this even after a heavier set, even if it's done as one set immediately after your finishing set for upright rows. My personal line of thinking with this is that it helps mind-muscle connection for the way you mentally queue the lift.
Although it also specifically mimics a close grip upright row, I still like it. As always, your video is great.
Even though I have decent Delts, I never thought about reversing my workout....will definitely try it.
Question 1:
When doing overhead barbell presses, are you arms straight out or are they at a slight in front angle?
Because I heard about Scapula issues when doing straight out presses.
Question 2:
Will Upright Rows hurt your shoulders? I also read about "Internal Rotation" of the shoulder and impingement while doing those.
Love your vids...
Drew63215 make overhead pres with dumbels,they will aloud you to do it in your specific personal,shape of the direction,to be protective and confortable for yours own shoulders,we aren't build the same.Your shoulder will find the corect movement for them.The barbel is to stright and rigid,puting the shoulder in them unproper statement,obeying them in nonconfortable movement resulting wear and tear inbalanced.We aren't robots,to have stright pattern of movements,by construction or seting. -‐------2-Make the upright rows with barbels oriented like you rise 2 suitcases,from down to your armpits but keep your palms faceing your ribs,not internal rotetion.Durring the lift keep palms with the thumbs pointed in front ahead from your body,not"pouring your beer mug".And the elbows will shrough a little to back instead of right straight up vertical.Ti is the best variabile,of this briliant exercise.Salute from Romania.🤚👍😃😃
@@jakobdekim6458 Thank you...
Let's go champ💪👌✌️☠️
Can you try to show your hand position better . I find it hard to follow. The upright row with curl bar maybe my arms are to long.
I have under developed pecs lol my delts would need to be the size of the moon to distract. I like this lateral raise variation and am goin to try it !
Perfect brother💯👍👌🙌💪
Pete why don't you use clips in 5:40?
If you fail and the bar falls on you, you can just tilt the bar so the weights fall off. Not using clips acts a safety mechanism.
I Lovet. 👍
Did not mention anything about rear delt.
Quads..when?
When he said light weight and picked up two 65lbs dumbells 😂😂😂
When should shoulders be worked out?
....any of the 7 days of the week?
...ok ok just been goofy :)
I'm assuming you're asking with what body parts to work shoulders? If so you can work them with any other body part as you like if you programme them accordingly
However, you can work front delts on your chest days, as chest also works your front delts, so it's a good combination.
You can work, side delts when you work your triceps and rear delts when you work your back.
What I do is I work all shoulders together in their own day, shoulders are important.
But in the end, it all depends on your weekly workout programme, just make sure you have the right exercises selected for your body and the right weekly set volumes
@@KenanTurkiye lmao. Thank you, I usually try and do it on my day off.
My program goes like this. Mon-fri
Chest-tris
Back-bi’s
Legs
Chest-tris
Back-bi’s
All in the afternoon
Every morning i do some kind of calisthenics or cardio.
@@keving466 You see per session total volumes are important too, just knowing what parts you train in each day may not be too great to asses the issue.
What I mean is the avarage guy can do upto 25 or so sets per session (of all muscle groups/total sets), anything too much more than that especially continually done releases too much cortisol, which reduces protein synthesis, thus hypertrophy/muscle building, and we don't want that.
Considering you are training so many days I would be very carefull on which days I would place shoulders, but considering you know your per day set volume it would be easy for you as long as you keep each day below or at about 25 sets.
If I am to assume you are below 25 sets per day, I would place front delts in your first chest tri day. Monday
Add side delts in your first back-bi day. Tuesday
Add rear delts in your legs day. Wednesday
Add another side delts in your second chest-tri day. Thursday
Add another rear delts in your second back-bi day. Friday
This way you'll have 1 day of front delts and 2 days of side and rear delts.
Front delts are used much more than side and rear delts and they overgrow much faster the other two, so this 2-to-1 ratio of frequency might be a smart way to get the rear and side delts a balanced growth, as chests already grow front delts.
I hope I made sense. ;)
@@KenanTurkiye appreciate the advice bro💪🏽 gonna try it for a few months. Never thought to add it in like that
@@keving466 I am pleased all that made sense, english is a second language for me and I use it only on the internet and was tired from a bus trip that took 10 hours, so yeah glad I was of any help. Best wishes.
How much weight was the dumbbells on the incline press?
65-85
Owsomme sir thank you
Why incline bench?
Isn't upright rows bad for the shoulders???
Nope
@@chepesantacruz777 Why???
@@Cedricbennettjrwhy is it bad?
Because of the risk of shoulder impingement.
Extremely bad yes!
This guy does upright rows 😆 🤣.
Yup it seems he’s gotten great results like thousands of other huge guys.
One question:shrugs on back days or shoulders days??una pregunta:encogimiento en días de espaldas o dias de hombros??
I’m so confused about the bench press part when you’re talking about shrugs? Is this not upper chest?
Upward row hurts my wrists so i stoppen doing them
And i allways start with shrugs to exaust my traps so the dont jump in so much with my side and read delt raises
how are you keeping your traps out of the movement in this position
How many sets would you recommend on each of these workouts ???
I N G E S T I O N
It's bodybuilding, not weightlifting or powerlifting. Stimulate, not annihilate.
Some bodybuilders have to annihilate to get their biggest gains.
Delts are built via heavy barbell OHP… something most bros avoid
Got it 👍
My shoulders don’t grow
No matter what I do
Impossible.
I’m in the same boat. My shoulders and traps are seriously lagging behind everything else. Maybe I’ll switch things up like this to get the sides and rear delts in a fatigued state before I hit overhead movements.
I thought you didn’t do bro splits. A entire workout dedicated to shoulders seems like a bro split to me. Coming over to the dark side?
I would love to see you without a shirt and give us a great flex session. Please
I'm sorry your Body just doesn't sell like hotcakes...O'Hearn's Film is selling like hotcakes. But difference being not 'a' but the key maker is muscle ingestion, NOT DIGESTION and INGESTION which arguably is a, nope the same stroke of genius. I mean is there a Fire Spirit Element burning in the joints and muscles that turns you into a Sex Lord. Nope, Dopey, in most just a stroke of genius right in time for Donuts and Chocolate milk and sleep time at your Nightingaless.
I'm sorry I need to brainwash border patroless.
All I know is shoulder pressing is old school. We’re in a new advanced age! Shoulder laterals are way superior as they don’t destroy your shoulders. Who wants a shoulder replacement????
They are two different exercises with different dynamics, one doesn't negate the other.
I do behind the neck barbell presses and does wonders to both my muscles and the hernia at C6.
Apparently as contraction strength increases down goes the pain in the associated region.
I can't remember the sources to the scientific findings but ever since I learnt about it, I have been doing that, however I do not want huge traps, as traps is one of the regions I am genetically gifted, they grow even when I stir my drink. :/
Anyways, long story short, everyone is different, presses aren't bad actually good for some, begind the neck presses are bad for some and not for others, no cookie cutter decree in this sport.
It's all about anatomy, bone structure, size etc etc.
For example I have a huge chest in order for me to hit my upper chest I have to get an even higher incline on the bench, but others complain they get their front delts rather than upper chest, for me I have to go very high on the angle to hit the upper chest.
My acromial bone type is type 3 (if I remember correctly) giving a more prominent protrusion on front delts, so front delts grow without doing anything, in fact I do front delt raises on a 15 degree bench so the top part of my front shoulders don't protrude too much causing an imbalance with my rear delts.
So many similar examples it'll be a very very long story.
So yeah everyone is different and shoulder pressing is not bad for all.
Take care.
Yes I just had a good training session today, lots of dopamine so that is why I am so chatty, so don't mind the long text. ;)
Not sure if you should be telling people that they should lift so hard it should be painful to lift their arms
No wonder your sidedèlts suck. You need to learn how to train them correctly, with the correct intensity
I'm sorry YOU DON'T Care, its completley hogwash maybe Bronze persones are like this.