I have this tractor with a belly mower and rear snowblower for the winter and absolutely love it. The loader is a beast as well. Mowing in the summer with cab and air conditioning is great and the cab keeps the bugs and dust away. Its a great tractor.
My CX came with the upgraded 3pt hitch arms. Extending end link and pin sway bars. I added the hydraulic top link. Absolutely love mine. 6ft 3pt finish mower, 6ft back blade with the loader for snow removal. And the a/c works fantastic, will never go without the cab ever again!
Man, you're not kidding about the bucket strength! I had 50 ton of 6-inch (a lot were as big as 12 inch) rip rap dumped in a pile last week. I used it to fill washouts on the edge of a 32 acre field. I rammed that loader bucket hundreda of times into the bottom of that rock pole with my Kioti CK4010SE while moving all that riprap. Not ONE dent or bend ANYWHERE on that 66 inch bucket!
I bought my Kioti almost 3 years ago and my buddy bought the equivalent size john deere just about the same time. I haven't had a single issue or problem with my kioti and my buddy has had his deere back in the shop twice now for three different issue. Plus he had some storm damage that needed cleaned up and my kioti would out lift his deere every time. I always joke with him about how I bet he is glad there are a lot of deere service centers since he needs them all the time..lol..
I have a CX2510 HST, no cab, and have over 200 hours on it in about a year and a half. What it can do for its size and maneuverability continues to make me happy I bought it. With loaded tires (Rim Guard) and rear ballast, it *can* lift somewhere about 1000 lbs palletized and evenly distributed on forks, but must keep it low, slow, and on the level (requires extreme caution). Loader technique is impotant to master for bulky and heavy things like rock or wet dirt. It handles a grapple very well, larger logs handle better with at least a box on the back for ballast. Yes, it has capacity limitations and at 25 HP, it must be in a low gear and slow going up a hill towing or under heavy load, but it can do it. When I feel like it comes up short (and it does), I remind myself I would need a much bigger machine and have to live all the time with more than I need most of the time. Sometimes I experience those limits as lack traction, slower speed under load, or with the loader when I wish I could lift a full ton on a pallet. But, those are true limitations, just known constraints, because it wasn't designed to be more than it is. That said, it does exceed slightly its paper specs. It's a real workhorse, tiny but stout and very capable, period.
When we were looking for a tractor, I drove a Kioti in the class we were looking. It would probably have been acceptable. The aluminum rear end was the big killer for me on the John Deere.
@@mrblancheTotally agree the aluminum rear end was definitely deal breaker. I ended up with a Bobcat CT2025 and I’m happy with it. I don’t have the cab model but that’s no big deal to me.
I strongly considered the CX2510 and it is a fine machine. I ultimately bought the JD 2025R due to having a dealer close by and the resale value. Totally pleased with it. Given proper operation and maintenance either machine will get the job done and be worthy to own.
I agree the Kioti is a good machine but fit and finish the lines hanging down for example is not on par with the John Deere he has a habit on Bashing the 2025r which is a much better machine than the 1025r he so often brag's about
Bought my CX2510 HST last April. SE version doesn't fit my garage so mine is less well equipped then this one. Not to worry. I am a retired infantry officer and wether on foot, in my APC, Stryker or hanging down a parachute, you come to think that feeling the sun, rain or snow on your face is a necessity. Bought the bucket, the grapple and a gradebox for it, and extra back weight. Very impressed so far. Looking forward for the coming winter here north of Quebec city. Should be lots of fun.
Thank you. I am enjoying your videos. The small tractor world is a fascinating place. I grew up on a small farm, so had a good basic knowledge. Then I recently decided we needed a tractor because we moved to the country. And my research began. Naturally, it started at JD and Kubota. But the pricing made me look elsewhere. I wasn't even much aware about Kioti. So we went to a dealer. Was thinking CX or CK (hope I got those letters right). Ended up buying a DX. Still under 10 hours, but really enjoying it so far! Anxiously waiting for snow! Edit: Yes, of course. It's the DK4220. With cab, because my good wife convinced me I'm too old to be operating at minus 30 in an open station tractor
I bought its big brother in June. CK4010SE cab. Came over from WI in Aug and got an HLA snow pusher a quick hitch and some weights. Great service from your people! Load and go! Tractor has been great in the 25 hours I have on it now. I got it for the 1900lb loader capacity. Rim guard in the rears and an addition 8 suitcase weights will work great for snow this winter.
I own a CX2510 cab and did a lot of research before buying over a 2025r. There are couple things to correct on your review. The engine is the exact same 3A165 100ci 3 cylinder as the CK2610/CK2620 model. No idea why the manual says 87ci. It has the 100ci engine. The FEL hoses are on backward on yours. Flip them around where the 90s are up top to solve the low ground clearance issue. The ROPs model has better hose routing and can replace these hoses too.
I’m impressed. I have a 2925R. This all sounds better. It looks goofy with the cab and that cab is brutally hot in the spring through fall on warm to hot days. That increased lift height and capability is a nice feature as well. We run it as the yard tractor and it does mini round bales to 27”. There’s enough power & speed to meet our needs there. We also have a 3039R as well so it is used when the other can’t do the job. We like them, we have run very large green machines before selling the ranch/farm before retiring and selling out. It’s what we had & know. The dealership treats us pretty good still, but I have looked at a couple of low hour used Kiyotis lately and one is really nice, with about 800 hours and not a scratch. It’s a DK5010,,,,, even more Hp than the 3 series we have but about the same $$$ brand new. This one is a couple of years old and pulled a mower conditioner, hay rake, small baler, loader, flail mower,,,,, it did it all. We will get the accessories as well. As a package it adds up, but hard to beat lightly used prices!! As you know! 😊😊
Good video! Love my Kioti with front loader and backhoe attachment puts this machine in a class of its own. AC and rain this season kept me going without any excuses. Go get one as explained in this vid. This is a heavy duty 🚜 that does not disappoint believe me from New Hampshire!
Looked at the JD2025R, Kubota LX2610 and the Kioti CX2510. Went with the CX2510 and not disappointed at all except I wish I got the cab. Got 300 hours on it without one single issue. It was 6K less than the JD and Kubota.
Same story here, I just bought a cx2510 after comparing the same models and saved $6k vs kubota and $9k vs JD Open cab doesn't have the rear remote hydraulics I've just got 10hrs on mine so far, works very well!
Would have loved more options when I was shopping in GA! The two local Deere dealerships wouldn’t event bat an eye when I walked in ready to buy. Kubota dealers worked for the deal and I walked away team Orange.
I purchased a kioti ck2620. I did my research and I found, the capacity and value were unmatched. I’ve got 50 hours on the machine now and I couldn’t be happier
Branson, now TYM, offers a pretty close match to the CK2610/20, at least on paper. We had no Branson dealers around when we purchased our 2610 and we've been very happy with the Kioti.
I use my radio. I don’t prefer ear buds or headphones as they greatly reduce your ability to maintain awareness of machine noise. I grew up on a farm and my dad always taught me to become familiar with the noises the machinery makes when it is working properly and he said the instant something doesn’t sound like it normally does, that’s the time to stop and investigate. I’m afraid with headphones and / or earbuds I’m missing ambient sounds.
Overall, the Kioti looks like a great tractor but the hydraulic lines hanging down makes one wonder what they were thinking, that should have never left the factory like that.
I pointed this out to my dealer (not a comedian like the guy in this video who doesn't know a clutch pedal from a brake pedal) right away before buying my Cx2510, he explained sometimes the factory tends to reverse the 90 degree elbow end of the quick connects to the loader with the straight ends, and fixed it during my pre-sale pm. Then they are tucked up high nice and tight. Check out Google images for the right side of the Cx with loader and some are correct and some are wrong. This joker had not clue about that but still wants you to buy a $30,000 tractor from his dealership. yeah, right.
When you are on the same side as the Church of Scientology, you’ve trucked up to say the least. I won’t buy a green tractor because of their lies and disgraceful behavior towards farmers who are just trying to repair their tractors. I was looking at Kubota but the hydraulic pump and capability of the Kioti has caused me to visit the Kioti dealer.
Agreed. It used to be that Deere was the best for the most part…. So they earned their extra cost. No more … now it’s cheaper aluminum two speed transmissions.. plastic body/hood , smaller lift cylinders, etc. I would suspect that Deere purchases ptheir parts cheaper than most manufactures … simply because of volume , If nothing else. So … Deere just has greater mark-up. I won’t buy another Deere. …
Absolutely JD has been left in dust, Ive had Kabota B and L series since late 80's JD was no where near as good. Kabota had a flat floor for ever and JD had a big hump in the floor and Kabota controls.much easier I found to operate.
Nice to see you reviewing kioti. They make a hell of a tractor. I’ve owned 2 kubotas and I wouldn’t trade my 2014 Kioti Dk40se hst for any comparable tractor. It’s an absolute beast! The loader capacity is unreal! More hydro flow, weight, fully optioned tractor. The rear lever for the 3 point is very convienant.
This is exactly where I’m at right now! I have a JD dealer 5 minutes from me and was quoted a 2025r with loader and 54” mower for $29,000. Specs were lacking, which is disappointing since I’ve always been a JD guy. JD needs to pick up their game, I’m seriously considering a Kioti.
I remember you saying back in the day once, if it's not a JD or Kubota, don't buy it :P Well, glad I didn't listen but more importantly, glad to see you next to this tough little Kioti. I got an RX7320 and it's in a league of its own against all competitors...Thanks for the vid!
5 years ago i researched tractors for a snow plow company. I looked at deer, Kubota, tym and Mahindra. Looked at the 40hp series. Deer had nothing available for at least a year. Kubota dealer didn't even let me sit in one, (and got a mechanic to answe questions -who was annoyed at being interrupted). TYM dealer took lots of time to answer questions and handed me the keys to one to take for a spin. Mahindra dealer did as well. TYM and Mahindra were equally priced, significantly less than Deer or Kubota. Just this year upgrading to the 60 hp. Similarly specs on deer and Mahindra. 30k difference. And the dealer support from Mahindra has been phenomenal!
I love my Kioti CS2520 (JD1025R is it’s counterpart) and I could not be any happier with it! No hate to JD or Kubota, but for the price it’s impossible to beat! I spent half the money on it and got a fantastic machine!
If dealer networks and resale wasnt a thing, all these tractor would be more popular. Until that happens, JD and Kubota will be king. There is obviously a ton of used Kioti tractors, which is why Good Works Tractors seem to be the new official used Kioti tractor dealer. That doesnt take away from the fact that these tractors have better specs than the top brands. I have to hand it to you Courtney, you are a genius when it comes to marketing.
I know this vid is a bit older now but I have a couple things to add. I have the CX2510 open station hst. Kioti lists the engine specs wrong on the CX landing page but it actually has the larger 100+ ci engine that the CK's have. Also, the top speed is under estimated, mine goes 12-13 mph top speed unloaded (GPS verified). Maybe the cab slow that one down. Great review though! Its a stout little tractor and I absolutely love mine.
I didn't buy a John Deere because they couldn't put a decent seat on any of my 4 JD riding lawnmowers I've owned, everyone of them were crap within 2 years and I never left them outside. So I bought a Kioti CK3510SE 2 years ago and I love it
Well I watched this video on the big TV... and just had to get onto the laptop to comment. So how did it taste having the words "2025" talked about lolol. Oh yeah it's all good, and great video of comparison too. Gotta say I came very close to buying the Koiti over my 2025. Thinking a cab tractor is in my future post retirement so we'll continue watching what your getting in stock. Thanks again... your 2025 member.
I have a 2410 Kioti with 1100 hours on it. I built a cab to fit for winter snow blowing. That tractor is great, but Kioti took all the little annoyances out when they brought out this 2510. Wish I owned this! I certainly would change those hydraulic hose routings.
I believe the reason the john deere 4066 does not have the gas shock on the right hand door is because deere doesn't really want you getting in and out that way. When I get in or out on the right side, sadly, my leg usually bumps the loader joystick ,and that could be dangerous. I didn't say Deere had a good reason ,but my guess is that's it .
I looked at this machine and considered it to be the only alternative when I bought my b2650. Had to get too large on the Deere to get a factory cab, and their price points are off. I have a Kubota dealer close by, so that was the deciding factor.
Bought a CK2510 (non cab) a year before CX release (99% same tilt wheel, pedals change) beast of a tractor. I've used all brands and shopped all and at the end of the day Kioti got my money no regrets..thanks for showing these tractors.
I have a ck1025 kioti and love it. mine is a clutch model 2014 and it has 600 hrs on it. I have had nothing done to it other than oil change and normal servicing! Anyone talking trash dont own one! I would by another new one today.
I have this Tractor with a pull type snowblower for the winter and a Maschio 155 flail with hammer blades working great except I had the safety controller go out at 70 Hours other than that it is a great machine
well enjoyed your video on the coyote tractor nice been waiting for some changes to buy a new john Deere 3046r open station but no armrest on the seat still have to climb up on the tractor for the fuel fill and loader joy stick not vary comfortable positioning and worst of all increase in price come on john Deere have to do some serious thinking also i got real bad services at a john Deere dealer in Lapeer Michigan thank you for your videos and all the good information
That Kioti factory cab is a big step up over the aftermarket built for kubota bx Curtis cab, which is still a great cab for the size. In any surveys I’ve gotten from kubota my 2 suggestions are a “position control” 3 pt setup, and a factory cab….which is actually available on the European variant the bx231
To your first statement, this Kioti compares much more closely with the Kubota LX2610, not the BX. I don’t think Kioti has a factory cab on their subcompact?? Deere has nothing to compare to in this particular size machine.
We bought some land and it has some steep mowing (2-3acres of 15-25 degree hills), and a long paved driveway to plow. We plan to try and farm it some day but for now have to keep the land under control. Multiple people have told me ventrac, but seeing prices on those makes my eyes bulge. I can't finance a ton, maybe 20-25k max. We're learning as we go and I know nothing about managing my land other than mowing, grew up a city boy and could use some suggestions
Ok... I love this little tractor. The cab is great, and whoever the engineer was that added the outside valve for the 3 point... Give 'em a cookie. Genius and that is incredibly useful.
I have owned this machine for 2 years now, I mow 15 acres every week I used a farmall A for years I looked at all the zero turns and I didn't like the rough ride The other manufacturers of tractors out their didn't compare. You can mow a lot of grass with the Kioti And let me say the cab on this machine is awesome. I live on a farm and my dad is totally impressed with what this little machine can do. Over 300 hours and I have done nothing but change the oil's and filters, and sharpen the mower blades
I have a mint 1995 FORD 1720 with a new Westendorf loader and Cool Cap 1300 hours. Nothing but Chevron lubricants and Baldwin filters. Stored inside all its life I’ll trade you straight across for.
This is an enticing combination. It could do everything i do with my old Kubotas, but in air conditioned comfort! The main downside I see for myself is that i do occasionally put my tractors through some silly areas where the cab would be a constant worry (tree branches, etc). For whatever reason, when our head is out in the breeze we're pretty aware of when things are going to hit it, but if you put a cab around it i feel like we get a lot worse at noticing that some contact is about to happen.. Anyway, great vid, keep it up!
My pretty much identical bobcat ct2535 also comes with heat and ac in the weight class and price point. The Kioti across the street was my 2nd choice, only went due to dealer support in my area. Both good machines for the acre owner or small hobbiest.
I’ve touted my Kioti CK in a few of your videos. Glad to see you’ve finally seen the light of the better orange. What’s with all this armrest stuff? I’ve driven hundreds of hours on my old Case 235 and almost 600 hours on my CK. If I want armrests, I’ll sit back in my easy chair chllin’ with a cool one.
As a recent 2038r owner ($70k total package) I couldn't agree more. The QC out of the factory and the dog shit dealer service, I hope the entire brand goes down the shitter.
The hydraulic lines on the loader are installed backwards. Mine were installed the other way with the elbows up on the loader frame and straight out of the valve body that gets them up out of danger
Are there supposed to be covers on the forward and reverse pedals or do they leave those bare intentionally? And clean that HVAC intake filter, it's dusty :)
My cousin has this machine the only complaints I have is the bucket is actually about 1/2 inch narrower than the machine so your tires are stuffing against the banking when digging, and my legs get cramped quickly.
I have the open station version of this Kioti. I do not have the rear controls on the 3 point but wish I did. Mine is not equipped with the 12 volt and USB that he mentioned. Again would be nice to have. Mine is not an HST and seems stronger than my brother-in-laws 30 hp New Holland with HST. I LOVE my Kioti only regret is I don't get more time on it. As my regular job gets in the way.
On the Kioti website, it says that the mid-mount mower is compatible with the loader and the backhoe. but I cant find what that actually means. does that mean, I can run and use or just lift the deck? I cant find a video showing that.
You make some valid points...but....The closest Kioti dealer to me is 60 miles away. Deere has 4 dealers that are 60 miles or less. The closest one being 4 miles from the house. That played into my decision to go with the 2025R.
I have a BX2380 with a cab no AC but plenty of windows to open so no big deal. I got the cab for the heat in the winter which is when I'll be using the machine the most.
Weird, those low hanging hyd hoses are only that way on the cab model - on ROPs they're straight out of the valve block to the loader bracket (vs 90° down on cab). Awesome review - my CX really punches above its weight!
I have a 1023, don’t get me wrong I love it! But these kioti’s are really growing on me. When it comes to replace mine, or need another I’m going to get one of these
They do still have the CK 25/10 it’s now the CK26/20 I just purchased one. Love it if purchased with the 4030c loader lift weight is an astonishing 1996 lbs at the loader pins.
Nice tractor and overall more capable than the equivalent size Kubota and John Deere. I don’t have a dealer in my area so I ended up going with a Kubota.
I'm finding dealer support is not a real thing anymore. I've currently got a JD machine that needs a leak fixed under warranty. Two different JD dealers near me. It's one month before I can get in to one of them, two months before I cand get into the other. My JCB tracksteer has been down for over 3 weeks now and still hasn't been looked at. Another warranty issue. I have stories on just about every brand of dealer around me. Perhaps it's unreasonable of me to expect equipment to be fixed faster than that.
What is that grill guard supposed to protect? It doesn’t cover any of the grill. Also I looked at the bobcat version of this tractor and the bucket seemed significantly thinner than the John Deere
Haha, yeah seems most grill guards aren't doing much besides blocking large limbs. As far as the bucket goes, I've never seen thinner or less support than on JD standard duty buckets. I look at a LOT of machines and JD buckets have more damage than all other brands combined. If you are buying a JD, it's worth money to upgrade to the HD bucket if an option.
For whatever reason, Bobcat makes their own loaders and buckets for these tractors, so while the tractor itself is the same as the Kioti model, the loader and front buckets are different (and the loader lifts less than the Kioti loaders....). Just info, in case folks don't know. Have a good one!!👍
Was in the subcompact market back in 2021. I have everyone nearby. Multiple Deere and Kubota dealers within an hour, TYM, Mahindra, LS, New Holland, Bobcat, you name it, ,all represented. Comparing specs, pricing, financing etc, Kioti won the battle. My CS, aside from an initial HST leak that my dealer got sorted out quickly and at zero cost, it's been a champ.
I would have liked to see about a Kioti but there is no dealer around here that I know of. Dealer support is important or should be to anyone buying anything no matter what it is.
I’m a Deere guy and I have to say that’s a impressive little tractor, I would add to the AC in that tractor running a 60” mower on top of the AC that not enough horsepower to do it on hilly terrain, I had a 4710 Deere and upgraded to a 4720 and was told when the put the cab on they needed more horsepower to run the AC compressor so I would assume the same theory applies here, that tractor looks like it was used for snow removal with corrosion on 3 point arms and levers on bucket release, plus a plug on the back for salt spreader power
Even as a born & raised green tractor guy, the Korean tractor and equipment companies have some promise and some well thought out designs and features. I think Kioti has more market share and has been around in the US longer than any of the others and I like this model quite a bit. There’s only one thing that gives me pause with Kioti and that’s the dealer network. Kubota and Deere both have two dealers that I pass close to on a regular basis. The Kioti dealer is 30 miles from me and the hours make it so that I could only get there on a Saturday morning. Unless I move closer to that dealer or they open a branch closer to me, it leave Kioti out of consideration . . . for now.
2025r lift capacity 1023 pounds Kioti cx2510 1092 this at the pins. Where did you get the 400 pound difference? I’m looking at buy a tractor making a spreadsheet to compare spec and price. I’m I looking at the wrong spec?
Yes, you're looking at the 2025r Gen 1 spec. John Deere redesigned the 2025r and put the 1 Series loader on it. They downgraded the performance of the tractor and kept the same name. The price also went up. Double whammy. I'm guessing you found the spec at tractordata. You'll see a drop down list near the top where you can select what model years you want to look at. It'll change the spec. www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/007/2/8/7282-john-deere-2025r-attachments.html
Yeah no reason to buy a John Deere unless they really step up their game. I went with an LS 342, it out specs John Deere in every category. Thank you for all of your quality videos, been watching you for years now.
I traded in my 2013 X738. I got 50% of what I paid when I traded it on a new 2023 X758. I then saved on taxes with trade in based on my older John Deere. Resale value is important to me and others. Just bought new tractor in Feb 2024.
I don’t know about the tractor looking goofy with the cab. When you are pushing or blowing snow and it’s-25 degrees and the wind is blowing 20 mph, that cab is going to look beautiful. When it’s nearly 90 degrees in the summer and the humidity is in the90 per cent range and the bugs are swarming, that cab is going to look great. Nice to be out of the dust too.
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Does the cab allow for a backhoe attachment ? will the seat pivot with the cab ? In the northeast . 15:49
Admits in the first 20 seconds he grinds an axe against the Deere. Yet….?
I have this tractor with a belly mower and rear snowblower for the winter and absolutely love it. The loader is a beast as well. Mowing in the summer with cab and air conditioning is great and the cab keeps the bugs and dust away. Its a great tractor.
That's awesome, glad you're enjoying it!
Every homesteader's and hobby farmer's dream machine.
My CX came with the upgraded 3pt hitch arms. Extending end link and pin sway bars. I added the hydraulic top link. Absolutely love mine. 6ft 3pt finish mower, 6ft back blade with the loader for snow removal. And the a/c works fantastic, will never go without the cab ever again!
I'm glad you finally checked out Kioti. I can follow your channel now!
Man, you're not kidding about the bucket strength! I had 50 ton of 6-inch (a lot were as big as 12 inch) rip rap dumped in a pile last week. I used it to fill washouts on the edge of a 32 acre field. I rammed that loader bucket hundreda of times into the bottom of that rock pole with my Kioti CK4010SE while moving all that riprap. Not ONE dent or bend ANYWHERE on that 66 inch bucket!
I have this very Kioti and it is AWESOME! A/C works great by the way. Loads of power and capacity. Zero complaints with it.
I bought my Kioti almost 3 years ago and my buddy bought the equivalent size john deere just about the same time. I haven't had a single issue or problem with my kioti and my buddy has had his deere back in the shop twice now for three different issue. Plus he had some storm damage that needed cleaned up and my kioti would out lift his deere every time. I always joke with him about how I bet he is glad there are a lot of deere service centers since he needs them all the time..lol..
I have a CX2510 HST, no cab, and have over 200 hours on it in about a year and a half. What it can do for its size and maneuverability continues to make me happy I bought it.
With loaded tires (Rim Guard) and rear ballast, it *can* lift somewhere about 1000 lbs palletized and evenly distributed on forks, but must keep it low, slow, and on the level (requires extreme caution).
Loader technique is impotant to master for bulky and heavy things like rock or wet dirt. It handles a grapple very well, larger logs handle better with at least a box on the back for ballast.
Yes, it has capacity limitations and at 25 HP, it must be in a low gear and slow going up a hill towing or under heavy load, but it can do it.
When I feel like it comes up short (and it does), I remind myself I would need a much bigger machine and have to live all the time with more than I need most of the time.
Sometimes I experience those limits as lack traction, slower speed under load, or with the loader when I wish I could lift a full ton on a pallet.
But, those are true limitations, just known constraints, because it wasn't designed to be more than it is. That said, it does exceed slightly its paper specs.
It's a real workhorse, tiny but stout and very capable, period.
We need to break the deere /Kubota dominance. These vids and dealers like you will help!
Love my Kioti tractor. When looking for a tractor, the big turn off for me with John Deere was their proprietary attachments, and no air conditioning.
When we were looking for a tractor, I drove a Kioti in the class we were looking. It would probably have been acceptable. The aluminum rear end was the big killer for me on the John Deere.
@@mrblancheTotally agree the aluminum rear end was definitely deal breaker. I ended up with a Bobcat CT2025 and I’m happy with it. I don’t have the cab model but that’s no big deal to me.
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I strongly considered the CX2510 and it is a fine machine. I ultimately bought the JD 2025R due to having a dealer close by and the resale value. Totally pleased with it. Given proper operation and maintenance either machine will get the job done and be worthy to own.
I agree the Kioti is a good machine but fit and finish the lines hanging down for example is not on par with the John Deere he has a habit on Bashing the 2025r which is a much better machine than the 1025r he so often brag's about
Lol, I wouldn't trust anything you have to say with comments like this.
Bought my CX2510 HST last April. SE version doesn't fit my garage so mine is less well equipped then this one. Not to worry. I am a retired infantry officer and wether on foot, in my APC, Stryker or hanging down a parachute, you come to think that feeling the sun, rain or snow on your face is a necessity. Bought the bucket, the grapple and a gradebox for it, and extra back weight. Very impressed so far. Looking forward for the coming winter here north of Quebec city. Should be lots of fun.
Thank you. I am enjoying your videos.
The small tractor world is a fascinating place. I grew up on a small farm, so had a good basic knowledge.
Then I recently decided we needed a tractor because we moved to the country. And my research began.
Naturally, it started at JD and Kubota. But the pricing made me look elsewhere.
I wasn't even much aware about Kioti. So we went to a dealer. Was thinking CX or CK (hope I got those letters right).
Ended up buying a DX. Still under 10 hours, but really enjoying it so far! Anxiously waiting for snow!
Edit: Yes, of course. It's the DK4220. With cab, because my good wife convinced me I'm too old to be operating at minus 30 in an open station tractor
Sweet, maybe it was the DK Series? One step bigger then the CK.
I bought its big brother in June. CK4010SE cab. Came over from WI in Aug and got an HLA snow pusher a quick hitch and some weights. Great service from your people! Load and go! Tractor has been great in the 25 hours I have on it now. I got it for the 1900lb loader capacity. Rim guard in the rears and an addition 8 suitcase weights will work great for snow this winter.
I own a CX2510 cab and did a lot of research before buying over a 2025r. There are couple things to correct on your review. The engine is the exact same 3A165 100ci 3 cylinder as the CK2610/CK2620 model. No idea why the manual says 87ci. It has the 100ci engine. The FEL hoses are on backward on yours. Flip them around where the 90s are up top to solve the low ground clearance issue. The ROPs model has better hose routing and can replace these hoses too.
I’m impressed. I have a 2925R. This all sounds better. It looks goofy with the cab and that cab is brutally hot in the spring through fall on warm to hot days. That increased lift height and capability is a nice feature as well. We run it as the yard tractor and it does mini round bales to 27”. There’s enough power & speed to meet our needs there. We also have a 3039R as well so it is used when the other can’t do the job. We like them, we have run very large green machines before selling the ranch/farm before retiring and selling out. It’s what we had & know. The dealership treats us pretty good still, but I have looked at a couple of low hour used Kiyotis lately and one is really nice, with about 800 hours and not a scratch. It’s a DK5010,,,,, even more Hp than the 3 series we have but about the same $$$ brand new. This one is a couple of years old and pulled a mower conditioner, hay rake, small baler, loader, flail mower,,,,, it did it all. We will get the accessories as well. As a package it adds up, but hard to beat lightly used prices!! As you know! 😊😊
Good video! Love my Kioti with front loader and backhoe attachment puts this machine in a class of its own. AC and rain this season kept me going without any excuses. Go get one as explained in this vid. This is a heavy duty 🚜 that does not disappoint believe me from New Hampshire!
I appreciate the closing verse!
Looked at the JD2025R, Kubota LX2610 and the Kioti CX2510. Went with the CX2510 and not disappointed at all except I wish I got the cab. Got 300 hours on it without one single issue. It was 6K less than the JD and Kubota.
Sweet, that's really good news!
Same story here, I just bought a cx2510 after comparing the same models and saved $6k vs kubota and $9k vs JD
Open cab doesn't have the rear remote hydraulics
I've just got 10hrs on mine so far, works very well!
Would have loved more options when I was shopping in GA!
The two local Deere dealerships wouldn’t event bat an eye when I walked in ready to buy. Kubota dealers worked for the deal and I walked away team Orange.
I purchased a kioti ck2620. I did my research and I found, the capacity and value were unmatched. I’ve got 50 hours on the machine now and I couldn’t be happier
Branson, now TYM, offers a pretty close match to the CK2610/20, at least on paper. We had no Branson dealers around when we purchased our 2610 and we've been very happy with the Kioti.
Had mine for 2yrs and love it open cab but has a canopy
I use my radio. I don’t prefer ear buds or headphones as they greatly reduce your ability to maintain awareness of machine noise. I grew up on a farm and my dad always taught me to become familiar with the noises the machinery makes when it is working properly and he said the instant something doesn’t sound like it normally does, that’s the time to stop and investigate. I’m afraid with headphones and / or earbuds I’m missing ambient sounds.
Overall, the Kioti looks like a great tractor but the hydraulic lines hanging down makes one wonder what they were thinking, that should have never left the factory like that.
Ya no thanks so in 20 years we going to be able to get parts for this tractor ?
I pointed this out to my dealer (not a comedian like the guy in this video who doesn't know a clutch pedal from a brake pedal) right away before buying my Cx2510, he explained sometimes the factory tends to reverse the 90 degree elbow end of the quick connects to the loader with the straight ends, and fixed it during my pre-sale pm. Then they are tucked up high nice and tight. Check out Google images for the right side of the Cx with loader and some are correct and some are wrong. This joker had not clue about that but still wants you to buy a $30,000 tractor from his dealership. yeah, right.
@@dkaifetz douche comment
I think Mister Green has been resting on his laurels for far too long.
Agreed!
When you are on the same side as the Church of Scientology, you’ve trucked up to say the least.
I won’t buy a green tractor because of their lies and disgraceful behavior towards farmers who are just trying to repair their tractors.
I was looking at Kubota but the hydraulic pump and capability of the Kioti has caused me to visit the Kioti dealer.
Agreed. It used to be that Deere was the best for the most part…. So they earned their extra cost. No more … now it’s cheaper aluminum two speed transmissions.. plastic body/hood , smaller lift cylinders, etc. I would suspect that Deere purchases ptheir parts cheaper than most manufactures … simply because of volume , If nothing else. So … Deere just has greater mark-up. I won’t buy another Deere. …
Absolutely JD has been left in dust, Ive had Kabota B and L series since late 80's JD was no where near as good. Kabota had a flat floor for ever and JD had a big hump in the floor and Kabota controls.much easier I found to operate.
Nice to see you reviewing kioti. They make a hell of a tractor. I’ve owned 2 kubotas and I wouldn’t trade my 2014 Kioti Dk40se hst for any comparable tractor. It’s an absolute beast! The loader capacity is unreal! More hydro flow, weight, fully optioned tractor. The rear lever for the 3 point is very convienant.
This is exactly where I’m at right now! I have a JD dealer 5 minutes from me and was quoted a 2025r with loader and 54” mower for $29,000. Specs were lacking, which is disappointing since I’ve always been a JD guy. JD needs to pick up their game, I’m seriously considering a Kioti.
It's good to have options!
Go for it! You wont regret.
I’d love to see you use this tractor on the channel for a while. This looks like a perfect size
I remember you saying back in the day once, if it's not a JD or Kubota, don't buy it :P
Well, glad I didn't listen but more importantly, glad to see you next to this tough little Kioti. I got an RX7320 and it's in a league of its own against all competitors...Thanks for the vid!
My 2019 Kubota B2650 with cab has rear window defrost. Works great during snow removal.
5 years ago i researched tractors for a snow plow company. I looked at deer, Kubota, tym and Mahindra.
Looked at the 40hp series. Deer had nothing available for at least a year. Kubota dealer didn't even let me sit in one, (and got a mechanic to answe questions -who was annoyed at being interrupted). TYM dealer took lots of time to answer questions and handed me the keys to one to take for a spin.
Mahindra dealer did as well. TYM and Mahindra were equally priced, significantly less than Deer or Kubota.
Just this year upgrading to the 60 hp.
Similarly specs on deer and Mahindra.
30k difference.
And the dealer support from Mahindra has been phenomenal!
I love my Kioti CS2520 (JD1025R is it’s counterpart) and I could not be any happier with it! No hate to JD or Kubota, but for the price it’s impossible to beat! I spent half the money on it and got a fantastic machine!
If dealer networks and resale wasnt a thing, all these tractor would be more popular. Until that happens, JD and Kubota will be king. There is obviously a ton of used Kioti tractors, which is why Good Works Tractors seem to be the new official used Kioti tractor dealer. That doesnt take away from the fact that these tractors have better specs than the top brands. I have to hand it to you Courtney, you are a genius when it comes to marketing.
Thanks Nick!
I'm in east Texas, and you can't find a used Kioti, but you can find them all over the ranches here.
Good information share & Good topic
Hi, Courtney. I think the Bobcat CT2525 also comes with A/C. Made also by Kioti, pretty much.
Rear wheel spacers will also help with the balance and it would make the appearance more tractor the Cab
I know this vid is a bit older now but I have a couple things to add. I have the CX2510 open station hst. Kioti lists the engine specs wrong on the CX landing page but it actually has the larger 100+ ci engine that the CK's have. Also, the top speed is under estimated, mine goes 12-13 mph top speed unloaded (GPS verified). Maybe the cab slow that one down. Great review though! Its a stout little tractor and I absolutely love mine.
I didn't buy a John Deere because they couldn't put a decent seat on any of my 4 JD riding lawnmowers I've owned, everyone of them were crap within 2 years and I never left them outside. So I bought a Kioti CK3510SE 2 years ago and I love it
Glad to hear it!
Well I watched this video on the big TV... and just had to get onto the laptop to comment. So how did it taste having the words "2025" talked about lolol. Oh yeah it's all good, and great video of comparison too. Gotta say I came very close to buying the Koiti over my 2025. Thinking a cab tractor is in my future post retirement so we'll continue watching what your getting in stock. Thanks again... your 2025 member.
I think about you every time I mention it! Haha, all in good fun I hope you know.
It's all good, keep up the great vids@@GoodWorksTractors
I have a 2410 Kioti with 1100 hours on it. I built a cab to fit for winter snow blowing. That tractor is great, but Kioti took all the little annoyances out when they brought out this 2510. Wish I owned this! I certainly would change those hydraulic hose routings.
I actually like that tractor and strongly considering a Kiotti!
I believe the reason the john deere 4066 does not have the gas shock on the right hand door is because deere doesn't really want you getting in and out that way. When I get in or out on the right side, sadly, my leg usually bumps the loader joystick ,and that could be dangerous. I didn't say Deere had a good reason ,but my guess is that's it .
I looked at this machine and considered it to be the only alternative when I bought my b2650. Had to get too large on the Deere to get a factory cab, and their price points are off. I have a Kubota dealer close by, so that was the deciding factor.
Beautiful tractor! Can you attach a backhoe with the cab in place?
Nice little machine for sure
Bought a CK2510 (non cab) a year before CX release (99% same tilt wheel, pedals change) beast of a tractor. I've used all brands and shopped all and at the end of the day Kioti got my money no regrets..thanks for showing these tractors.
I have a ck1025 kioti and love it. mine is a clutch model 2014 and it has 600 hrs on it. I have had nothing done to it other than oil change and normal servicing! Anyone talking trash dont own one! I would by another new one today.
I have this Tractor with a pull type snowblower for the winter and a Maschio 155 flail with hammer blades working great except I had the safety controller go out at 70 Hours other than that it is a great machine
What width snowblower are you running on it?
well enjoyed your video on the coyote tractor nice been waiting for some changes to buy a new john Deere 3046r open station but no armrest on the seat still have to climb up on the tractor for the fuel fill and loader joy stick not vary comfortable positioning and worst of all increase in price come on john Deere have to do some serious thinking also i got real bad services at a john Deere dealer in Lapeer Michigan thank you for your videos and all the good information
That Kioti factory cab is a big step up over the aftermarket built for kubota bx Curtis cab, which is still a great cab for the size. In any surveys I’ve gotten from kubota my 2 suggestions are a “position control” 3 pt setup, and a factory cab….which is actually available on the European variant the bx231
Europe always seem to get the good upgrades before we do.
To your first statement, this Kioti compares much more closely with the Kubota LX2610, not the BX. I don’t think Kioti has a factory cab on their subcompact?? Deere has nothing to compare to in this particular size machine.
Actually, looks like they have a “field cab” that you can add on to the subcompact, and it looks great!
We bought some land and it has some steep mowing (2-3acres of 15-25 degree hills), and a long paved driveway to plow. We plan to try and farm it some day but for now have to keep the land under control.
Multiple people have told me ventrac, but seeing prices on those makes my eyes bulge. I can't finance a ton, maybe 20-25k max. We're learning as we go and I know nothing about managing my land other than mowing, grew up a city boy and could use some suggestions
Ok... I love this little tractor. The cab is great, and whoever the engineer was that added the outside valve for the 3 point... Give 'em a cookie. Genius and that is incredibly useful.
How would you use a backhoe on that tractor w/o taking the cab off?
I have owned this machine for 2 years now, I mow 15 acres every week
I used a farmall A for years
I looked at all the zero turns and I didn't like the rough ride
The other manufacturers of tractors out their didn't compare. You can mow a lot of grass with the Kioti
And let me say the cab on this machine is awesome.
I live on a farm and my dad is totally impressed with what this little machine can do.
Over 300 hours and I have done nothing but change the oil's and filters, and sharpen the mower blades
Mike with Out doors with the Morgan’s says he really likes his cab tractors
I don’t see it on the website yet!
Here ya go: www.goodworkstractors.com/product/kioti-cx2510se-hst-cab-tractor-for-sale/
I have a mint 1995 FORD 1720 with a new Westendorf loader and Cool Cap 1300 hours. Nothing but Chevron lubricants and Baldwin filters. Stored inside all its life I’ll trade you straight across for.
This is an enticing combination. It could do everything i do with my old Kubotas, but in air conditioned comfort! The main downside I see for myself is that i do occasionally put my tractors through some silly areas where the cab would be a constant worry (tree branches, etc). For whatever reason, when our head is out in the breeze we're pretty aware of when things are going to hit it, but if you put a cab around it i feel like we get a lot worse at noticing that some contact is about to happen.. Anyway, great vid, keep it up!
My pretty much identical bobcat ct2535 also comes with heat and ac in the weight class and price point. The Kioti across the street was my 2nd choice, only went due to dealer support in my area. Both good machines for the acre owner or small hobbiest.
same parent company
I’ve touted my Kioti CK in a few of your videos. Glad to see you’ve finally seen the light of the better orange. What’s with all this armrest stuff? I’ve driven hundreds of hours on my old Case 235 and almost 600 hours on my CK. If I want armrests, I’ll sit back in my easy chair chllin’ with a cool one.
As a recent 2038r owner ($70k total package) I couldn't agree more. The QC out of the factory and the dog shit dealer service, I hope the entire brand goes down the shitter.
Man, I'm sorry to hear that. That's a chunk of change to drop and be unsatisfied.
The hydraulic lines on the loader are installed backwards. Mine were installed the other way with the elbows up on the loader frame and straight out of the valve body that gets them up out of danger
Are there supposed to be covers on the forward and reverse pedals or do they leave those bare intentionally? And clean that HVAC intake filter, it's dusty :)
They are supposed to have plastic covers with forward and reverse arrows. They must have gotten lost, along with the LSV triangle at some point.
Think so, they probably just slip on
My cousin has this machine the only complaints I have is the bucket is actually about 1/2 inch narrower than the machine so your tires are stuffing against the banking when digging, and my legs get cramped quickly.
Curious how these compare to a b2601 and lx2620
I have the open station version of this Kioti. I do not have the rear controls on the 3 point but wish I did. Mine is not equipped with the 12 volt and USB that he mentioned. Again would be nice to have. Mine is not an HST and seems stronger than my brother-in-laws 30 hp New Holland with HST. I LOVE my Kioti only regret is I don't get more time on it. As my regular job gets in the way.
Can you put a backhoe on the cx2510
On the Kioti website, it says that the mid-mount mower is compatible with the loader and the backhoe. but I cant find what that actually means. does that mean, I can run and use or just lift the deck? I cant find a video showing that.
there is tsb for the loader line to flip them and put the 90s at the loader end.
You make some valid points...but....The closest Kioti dealer to me is 60 miles away. Deere has 4 dealers that are 60 miles or less. The closest one being 4 miles from the house. That played into my decision to go with the 2025R.
Well done Courtney. When can I pick mine up? 🤣
I have a BX2380 with a cab no AC but plenty of windows to open so no big deal. I got the cab for the heat in the winter which is when I'll be using the machine the most.
Courtney I see you’re picking up what I’m putting down. That’s why I bought my CK3510. Better in measurable terms.
Lol, glad we're on the same page :)
Weird, those low hanging hyd hoses are only that way on the cab model - on ROPs they're straight out of the valve block to the loader bracket (vs 90° down on cab). Awesome review - my CX really punches above its weight!
What’s your thoughts on this tractor vs. LX2610?
Does kioti have a good heavy duty commercial front snow blower for the 2510?
KS54-180CFM is a great blower and the only one for this model Cx2510. I have one and love it.
What is it like in comparison to the summit
Any idea the height of this unit? Wondering if it fits in normal 7ft door
It's slightly too tall to fit under a 7' door
I have a 1023, don’t get me wrong I love it! But these kioti’s are really growing on me. When it comes to replace mine, or need another I’m going to get one of these
Great tractor review! I wish Kioti still had the CK2510 model. A bit bigger than this CX2510 with a 100 cubic inch engine.
They do still have the CK 25/10 it’s now the CK26/20 I just purchased one. Love it if purchased with the 4030c loader lift weight is an astonishing 1996 lbs at the loader pins.
can you tell me that it has a better than a kubota 2610 or a 2025r john deer
Man do I ever look forward to your new segments.
Nice tractor and overall more capable than the equivalent size Kubota and John Deere. I don’t have a dealer in my area so I ended up going with a Kubota.
I'm finding dealer support is not a real thing anymore. I've currently got a JD machine that needs a leak fixed under warranty. Two different JD dealers near me. It's one month before I can get in to one of them, two months before I cand get into the other. My JCB tracksteer has been down for over 3 weeks now and still hasn't been looked at. Another warranty issue. I have stories on just about every brand of dealer around me. Perhaps it's unreasonable of me to expect equipment to be fixed faster than that.
My Kioti dealer picks up and returns my machine for a small fee. 2 hr round trip
Can the Kioti run the rear mid PTO at the same time? I know the 2025r can. But wasn’t for sure about the CX
Yes
What is that grill guard supposed to protect? It doesn’t cover any of the grill. Also I looked at the bobcat version of this tractor and the bucket seemed significantly thinner than the John Deere
Haha, yeah seems most grill guards aren't doing much besides blocking large limbs. As far as the bucket goes, I've never seen thinner or less support than on JD standard duty buckets. I look at a LOT of machines and JD buckets have more damage than all other brands combined. If you are buying a JD, it's worth money to upgrade to the HD bucket if an option.
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For whatever reason, Bobcat makes their own loaders and buckets for these tractors, so while the tractor itself is the same as the Kioti model, the loader and front buckets are different (and the loader lifts less than the Kioti loaders....). Just info, in case folks don't know. Have a good one!!👍
I have a ck2510 it's 7 years old with 800 hours and would love to have the cab.
Will the side doors detach?
Was in the subcompact market back in 2021. I have everyone nearby. Multiple Deere and Kubota dealers within an hour, TYM, Mahindra, LS, New Holland, Bobcat, you name it, ,all represented. Comparing specs, pricing, financing etc, Kioti won the battle. My CS, aside from an initial HST leak that my dealer got sorted out quickly and at zero cost, it's been a champ.
Sweet, glad to hear it!
I would have liked to see about a Kioti but there is no dealer around here that I know of. Dealer support is important or should be to anyone buying anything no matter what it is.
I’m a Deere guy and I have to say that’s a impressive little tractor, I would add to the AC in that tractor running a 60” mower on top of the AC that not enough horsepower to do it on hilly terrain, I had a 4710 Deere and upgraded to a 4720 and was told when the put the cab on they needed more horsepower to run the AC compressor so I would assume the same theory applies here, that tractor looks like it was used for snow removal with corrosion on 3 point arms and levers on bucket release, plus a plug on the back for salt spreader power
Not a lot of Kioti dealerships in the Northern MA/VT Area
What is the top speed in low gear? I see high is listed at 10.7 mph
The hydraulic hoses are installed backwards, the 90 degree goes on the top/loader side.
Even as a born & raised green tractor guy, the Korean tractor and equipment companies have some promise and some well thought out designs and features. I think Kioti has more market share and has been around in the US longer than any of the others and I like this model quite a bit.
There’s only one thing that gives me pause with Kioti and that’s the dealer network. Kubota and Deere both have two dealers that I pass close to on a regular basis. The Kioti dealer is 30 miles from me and the hours make it so that I could only get there on a Saturday morning. Unless I move closer to that dealer or they open a branch closer to me, it leave Kioti out of consideration . . . for now.
What are your thoughts about the CK2620?
2025r lift capacity 1023 pounds Kioti cx2510 1092 this at the pins. Where did you get the 400 pound difference? I’m looking at buy a tractor making a spreadsheet to compare spec and price. I’m I looking at the wrong spec?
Yes, you're looking at the 2025r Gen 1 spec. John Deere redesigned the 2025r and put the 1 Series loader on it. They downgraded the performance of the tractor and kept the same name. The price also went up. Double whammy. I'm guessing you found the spec at tractordata. You'll see a drop down list near the top where you can select what model years you want to look at. It'll change the spec. www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/007/2/8/7282-john-deere-2025r-attachments.html
Thanks for the information.
Yeah no reason to buy a John Deere unless they really step up their game. I went with an LS 342, it out specs John Deere in every category. Thank you for all of your quality videos, been watching you for years now.
I like Deere, but I also like value.
does it have AC?
I traded in my 2013 X738. I got 50% of what I paid when I traded it on a new 2023 X758. I then saved on taxes with trade in based on my older John Deere. Resale value is important to me and others. Just bought new tractor in Feb 2024.
Kioti is brilliant tractor, except 5:52 never have seen this from factory. this is some dealer installation.
I don’t know about the tractor looking goofy with the cab. When you are pushing or blowing snow and it’s-25 degrees and the wind is blowing 20 mph, that cab is going to look beautiful.
When it’s nearly 90 degrees in the summer and the humidity is in the90 per cent range and the bugs are swarming, that cab is going to look great.
Nice to be out of the dust too.