There is so much fear-based safety misinformation in HEMA. I was always told not to buckler punch because I'd give my opponent a concussion. Then I actually took a full-force buckler punch to the face and found out it didn't even hurt. "There's no safe way to spar with a montante," is another myth I've been skeptical of for some time. Thank you for testing it for us and taking the time to tell us about these beautiful swords!
There is ALOT of fear-based safety misinformation in HEMA! It frustrates the hell out of me. I have been told the same thing about punching with a buckler. Yes, you actually CAN give someone a concussion by punching them in the face or head with a buckler. But as someone who comes from a Muay Thai, FMA, and MMA background, and also trains and competes in Buhurt, i can promise you that you can give someone a concussion just the same by punching them in the face or head with a boxing glove. Getting punched in the face with a buckler while sparring isn't going to be any worse than being punched in the face with a fist. All sparring is going to come with at least SOME risk, if a level of realism is to be maintained. That's just a fact of life that you have to accept in martial arts training. The rules I normally spar under my training partners are simple: Don't hit me any harder than you want me to hit you. And do whatever you like as long as you are OK with me doing it back to you. Me and my partners are all in our 40s or older, and are all experienced martial artist from various backgrounds. We trust each other and are mature enough and experienced enough to spar with minimal "rules" to regulate safety, and in 5 years of training HEMA together, haven't injured each other once, other than bruises and the very rare occasional bloody nose or broken finger.
Lets take a moment to appreciate how this guy was able to talk for 12 minutes straight explaining in depth what fighting with a large sword is like all in a foreign language.
I was considering buying the montante last night but decided to look for reviews and couldn't find any. Then tonight, i come across this in my recommended. Awesome video. I purchased the montante right after viewing.
Beautiful fencing. Much more similar to ‘normal’ longsword fencing than I had imagined in my head. Thank you for the beautiful demonstrations you’ve been doing lately. I genuinely believe you are elevating the art. Cheers.
I’m a big fan of medieval history, but I tend to focus more on the clothes and don’t really know a thing about swords. I put this on intending to listen to it while I did some embroidery but in the end not a stitch got done because I was so absorbed by the video! I had no idea you could get swords that long (quite alarming to find they’re almost as tall as I am!) I also love the sound quality of your video, just listening to the clash of swords and the crickets made me feel like I was in a castle watching knights duelling in the training grounds. I look forward to seeing more of your videos and learning more!
Thank you for the video. Im glad there is another to hopefully jumpstart this discussion and give another perspective on the use of these steel trainers and how ultimately they are plenty safe for sparring so long as you aren't an incompetent sparring partner driven by your own ego. Which if you were then you definitely dont need to training this or any other martial art at that point.
I am so glad to watch this video. It shows you actually don't kill your partners... The locations you choose are so beautiful you make an excellent filmmaker... I don't think even Hollywood has that sort of taste for real beauty... Although your work sometimes reminds me of Ridley Scotts "The Duelists"
My dream is to one day be able to forge my own medieval armor and a light longsword, shaped like theses :) I don't have the skills, the money or the knowledge, but I'll get there. This dream has no particular origin, although it's a concrete one, since I've been thinking about it for years. I've even made sketches of a muscular leather cuirass like the centurions, and the dream also includes a sailing ship. Where to? No fcking idea
adding some personal experience with heavier blades. My armoured longsword 1,3m is indeed a bit heavier, around 1,8kg, with diamond shaped crossection and pointy (somewhat unsafe) crossguard and pommel. That being said, I use it in normal historical gambeson (a bit more padded than my arming doublet) and good hema mask, I think a bruise might have been the worst I've suffered. I've also got a two handed 1,8m 2,5kg sword but used it in armour or light sparring, no injuries but we've never tried full speed.
Would you be interested in making videos on how to make armour? I noticed the blackening on the arm harness you're wearing in the video is quite dark, and i would love to learn your techniques.
Very interesting video. Another point of the speed of the blade. If not to heavy, the longer blade, the more speed at the point than cutting. Than it is to heavy, I don´t know, it depends how big and strong the wielder is.
I dont have fear or concern for your safety at all. You are an adult and can do what you like. Moreover, you are a trained and experienced martial artist, and you know what you're doing. Im confident that you have the skill and experience to keep yourself safe when you fight, as well as the maturity and class to accept whatever injuries you may recieve with dignity. If realism is to be maintained, there will always be some level of risk, and that is just a fact that every martial artist must accept when sparring.
Lovely video my friend, my question has nothing to do with the video and I may be wrong but are you Bavarian by any chance? you have always given me Austro-Bavarian vibes, I do not know why. Well either way keep up the good work👍
What about the Danish early two-handed sword, adapted for a powerful injection, who had a faceted narrow blade? Is it a good option in a duel and on the battlefield against a knight?
Man, I watched your other video, I would not want to be the guy getting hit. Those looked like some bruises in the making. Also the validation of knowing someone else uses siderings to carry swords like that is brilliant! Edit: I do actually have a question, it seemed like you guys weren't doing a lot of the momentum plays greatsword does. Was that intentional to avoid injury?
Hey, can you explain to me the difference between HMB and HEMA. Because theres a HEMA group in my city but from what it looks like, there isnt really that much armour involved and mainly just fencing masks and padding.
Hmb is in armor but without thrusts. Hema is with thrusts but most hema clubs don't know shit about armored fencing. The best way is to do both and at the end you have to found your own harness fencing club like I did 😅
@@afistfulfett7526 spears are to long for indoor fights. That's why I think a sword is absolutely the better home defense weapon. A Falchion would be even better in slashing unarmored home invaders but a sword is easyer to throw!
Katana's are the best suited swords for home defence in the current market. A good katana can be purchased around 150$, can be used in one or two hands, is short enough to be used in compact hall ways, is long enough to deal an immediate mortal wound in one strike, and is easy to store. If your being serious a pavese shield is a great follow-up purchase. In the 2022 riots a Dallas store owner defending his store with a cold steel gladius was stoned to death by rioters for a lack of ranged protection. Your never too advanced to get killed by a rock.
I guess that was what I was noticing. It really is beautiful and not at all cumbersome to look at as one might think two-handed would be. However, likely is because you and partner knew what you were doing and thus shows the art form. Why film avoids actual fighting like this is strange. I guess because when it comes to finish an opponent, it's not dynamic or cinematic, but frantic and brutal. I never knew how much a dagger came into play most times if didn't finish with sword.
Sigi Montante sword: sigiforge.com/products/sigi-montante/
Man I know it’s not about this but you always pick the most gorgeous spots to film 😂 well done
Very true lol, Bros always picking the best locations🤣
Of course its also about my locations. I am an artist and I cant publish it if it do not stunn myself ;)
There is so much fear-based safety misinformation in HEMA. I was always told not to buckler punch because I'd give my opponent a concussion. Then I actually took a full-force buckler punch to the face and found out it didn't even hurt. "There's no safe way to spar with a montante," is another myth I've been skeptical of for some time. Thank you for testing it for us and taking the time to tell us about these beautiful swords!
Thanks for your kind words!
There is ALOT of fear-based safety misinformation in HEMA! It frustrates the hell out of me. I have been told the same thing about punching with a buckler. Yes, you actually CAN give someone a concussion by punching them in the face or head with a buckler. But as someone who comes from a Muay Thai, FMA, and MMA background, and also trains and competes in Buhurt, i can promise you that you can give someone a concussion just the same by punching them in the face or head with a boxing glove. Getting punched in the face with a buckler while sparring isn't going to be any worse than being punched in the face with a fist. All sparring is going to come with at least SOME risk, if a level of realism is to be maintained. That's just a fact of life that you have to accept in martial arts training. The rules I normally spar under my training partners are simple:
Don't hit me any harder than you want me to hit you. And do whatever you like as long as you are OK with me doing it back to you.
Me and my partners are all in our 40s or older, and are all experienced martial artist from various backgrounds. We trust each other and are mature enough and experienced enough to spar with minimal "rules" to regulate safety, and in 5 years of training HEMA together, haven't injured each other once, other than bruises and the very rare occasional bloody nose or broken finger.
Bro’s got some gorgeous hair ngl
Thanks
@@dequitem no problem man, I love your duel videos!
Lets take a moment to appreciate how this guy was able to talk for 12 minutes straight explaining in depth what fighting with a large sword is like all in a foreign language.
The ringing of the swords in the first fight is a magnificent sound.
You really strike me as a young knight, dashing and good with the sword! Keep doing what youre doing man
I was considering buying the montante last night but decided to look for reviews and couldn't find any. Then tonight, i come across this in my recommended. Awesome video. I purchased the montante right after viewing.
Hey UA-cam, this channel is awesome, tell you algorithm to recommend this.
I absolutely agree 😅
These are awesome realistic battles that look like you would have seen in the past. very cool content.
Beautiful fencing. Much more similar to ‘normal’ longsword fencing than I had imagined in my head. Thank you for the beautiful demonstrations you’ve been doing lately.
I genuinely believe you are elevating the art.
Cheers.
0:29 ...
Hollywood....
TAKE NOTES ! ... xD
ok now i watch the video ^^
I’m a big fan of medieval history, but I tend to focus more on the clothes and don’t really know a thing about swords. I put this on intending to listen to it while I did some embroidery but in the end not a stitch got done because I was so absorbed by the video! I had no idea you could get swords that long (quite alarming to find they’re almost as tall as I am!) I also love the sound quality of your video, just listening to the clash of swords and the crickets made me feel like I was in a castle watching knights duelling in the training grounds. I look forward to seeing more of your videos and learning more!
Thank you for the insightful review! You show exactly what I see very seldomly in other reviews.
Thank you for the video. Im glad there is another to hopefully jumpstart this discussion and give another perspective on the use of these steel trainers and how ultimately they are plenty safe for sparring so long as you aren't an incompetent sparring partner driven by your own ego. Which if you were then you definitely dont need to training this or any other martial art at that point.
Such beautiful swords, gotta love them the most, thanks for sharing!
Always incredible, you’re the best!
This was really fascinating and informative. Good one.
You truly are a one of a kind. Thank you for your content, stay safe.
I am so glad to watch this video. It shows you actually don't kill your partners...
The locations you choose are so beautiful you make an excellent filmmaker... I don't think even Hollywood has that sort of taste for real beauty... Although your work sometimes reminds me of Ridley Scotts "The Duelists"
The sounds 0:46 incredible
My dream is to one day be able to forge my own medieval armor and a light longsword, shaped like theses :)
I don't have the skills, the money or the knowledge, but I'll get there. This dream has no particular origin, although it's a concrete one, since I've been thinking about it for years. I've even made sketches of a muscular leather cuirass like the centurions, and the dream also includes a sailing ship. Where to? No fcking idea
Thanks for sharing, big fan from Belgium 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I try to learn something new everyday. Pretty sure I've filled my quota for the week. You make a normally dry subject juicier than a carton of OJ.
adding some personal experience with heavier blades.
My armoured longsword 1,3m is indeed a bit heavier, around 1,8kg, with diamond shaped crossection and pointy (somewhat unsafe) crossguard and pommel.
That being said, I use it in normal historical gambeson (a bit more padded than my arming doublet) and good hema mask, I think a bruise might have been the worst I've suffered.
I've also got a two handed 1,8m 2,5kg sword but used it in armour or light sparring, no injuries but we've never tried full speed.
Nice experiences.
Yes 2,5 kg is a little bit heavier than 1,8 kg and I would recommend full speed sparring with such a Blade too.
@@dequitem I'd have to try with someone who trusts me, there is a bit of stigma with heavier blades. Merited to an extent.
I assumed the warhammers would be the most dangerous.
Would you be interested in making videos on how to make armour? I noticed the blackening on the arm harness you're wearing in the video is quite dark, and i would love to learn your techniques.
I’ve been wanting a sigi montante for so long now 😭😭 if only I wasn’t a broke peasant serf
Your get a pointy stick and be satisfied with that ( - ;
@@twobob8585 I got my longsword and she’s a beauty I should be happy
if you go full optional on their website it will be €880,-. seems fair to me
amazing vid 🔥
Very interesting video.
Another point of the speed of the blade.
If not to heavy, the longer blade, the more speed at the point than cutting.
Than it is to heavy, I don´t know, it depends how big and strong the wielder is.
1,8 to 2 kg isn't heavy so yes the tip of these two swords will even be faster than most longswords.
You have an eye for production sir!
I dont have fear or concern for your safety at all. You are an adult and can do what you like. Moreover, you are a trained and experienced martial artist, and you know what you're doing. Im confident that you have the skill and experience to keep yourself safe when you fight, as well as the maturity and class to accept whatever injuries you may recieve with dignity. If realism is to be maintained, there will always be some level of risk, and that is just a fact that every martial artist must accept when sparring.
“Don’t kill your training partner”. That would be good advice.
I really like the Sigi Monante sword alot, i like the swords design, its a very safe Fencing sword. Sick video Beautiful location!
Thanks.
Dude love your videos can you do a video where you fight during a sunset in a open field pls
One day for sure.
I thought you my have dressed up a bit more brightly coloured to take on the roll of a true Landsknecht.😀
But that's my regular hema gear.
@@dequitem Just pulling your leg.
SIGI really is a good smith, i'm satisfied with mine
Lovely video my friend, my question has nothing to do with the video and I may be wrong but are you Bavarian by any chance? you have always given me Austro-Bavarian vibes, I do not know why. Well either way keep up the good work👍
I come from north Germany. So I am not Bavarian, but I am also not offended! 😂😂😂
@@dequitem Oh well my bad😅, well nonetheless thank you for indulging my curiosity
gracias
I know a case of thie Piercing into a lung (hema tournement Lack of proper armor)
5:09 Yes that thrust was Tasty ❤
Sorry😘
Some fun exchanges in this video as well, thank you guys
Dang I didn’t comment yet. Algorithm get a boost !
Hey, Dequitem you should do a video on the half sword playtest demo
Where did you get your lirripipe hood overlay? I love it💚
I stitched it myself.
@@dequitem it looks amazing, great job 🤘
What about the Danish early two-handed sword, adapted for a powerful injection, who had a faceted narrow blade? Is it a good option in a duel and on the battlefield against a knight?
Man, I watched your other video, I would not want to be the guy getting hit. Those looked like some bruises in the making. Also the validation of knowing someone else uses siderings to carry swords like that is brilliant!
Edit: I do actually have a question, it seemed like you guys weren't doing a lot of the momentum plays greatsword does. Was that intentional to avoid injury?
No if you do the momentum stuff, it's easy to predict. That's not suitable for a duel.
@@dequitem Thank you for the explanation!
I sure would like one of these swords but im in America and they are the same price as a pistol
Yes but is your pistol safe? 😅😅😅
Hey, can you explain to me the difference between HMB and HEMA. Because theres a HEMA group in my city but from what it looks like, there isnt really that much armour involved and mainly just fencing masks and padding.
Hmb is in armor but without thrusts. Hema is with thrusts but most hema clubs don't know shit about armored fencing. The best way is to do both and at the end you have to found your own harness fencing club like I did 😅
@@dequitem damn, well, I better hope this Hema club has people that know things about HMB and stuff. But thank you for the info. I appreciate it 🙏
Safest pommels for practicing how to end them rightly?
I'm not sure but I feel like you speak Turkish too. I would be happy if you could feed my curiosity lol
Do you have a full light gear sparring video with two handed sword?
Yes. It's my last duel video. Called high intensity.
Is it realistic/practical to use a shield with 2 handed swords?
are swords ideal for home defense?
A sharp one can be leathal!
A spear is always the budget choice and you can launch it like a javelin
@@afistfulfett7526 spears are to long for indoor fights. That's why I think a sword is absolutely the better home defense weapon. A Falchion would be even better in slashing unarmored home invaders but a sword is easyer to throw!
Katana's are the best suited swords for home defence in the current market. A good katana can be purchased around 150$, can be used in one or two hands, is short enough to be used in compact hall ways, is long enough to deal an immediate mortal wound in one strike, and is easy to store. If your being serious a pavese shield is a great follow-up purchase. In the 2022 riots a Dallas store owner defending his store with a cold steel gladius was stoned to death by rioters for a lack of ranged protection. Your never too advanced to get killed by a rock.
Viking Axe 😆
What old swordfighting Manuel did you study?
All armored fighting manuals.
@@dequitem okay thought some people just pick one and try to master it. Thanks 🙏
Это невозможно, первое что люди увидят это цель😇 если вы поняли о чём я!!!
I am not sure if the translation is correct.
@@dequitem even if you want to become a warrior, it’s better to buy weapons😂
I got stabbed multipel times by Dequitem
And your still alive, so I am safe as well. 😍
If it is safe to train Olympic fencing, where the full momentum is focused on a single point, it should also be safe to train with two-handed swords.
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You weren't using jaeger then. Apologies.
Jaeger?
Whaaaat are thoooose... pants? Not Spes?
They are made by spes 😅😅😅
@@dequitem Alright :D
is plenty safe
😅
Can you do a test of weapons stabs vs mail? bonus points if you get a ballistic dummy
I guess that was what I was noticing. It really is beautiful and not at all cumbersome to look at as one might think two-handed would be. However, likely is because you and partner knew what you were doing and thus shows the art form. Why film avoids actual fighting like this is strange. I guess because when it comes to finish an opponent, it's not dynamic or cinematic, but frantic and brutal. I never knew how much a dagger came into play most times if didn't finish with sword.
I love to look at grappling with swords in reality but I hat movie knife fights. It's always to clean.